Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 2 Waivers & Streamers + Drop Candidates - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/9

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 9, 2025. Waiver Wire pickups for Week 2! Which disappointing players are actually droppable? Find out which waiver adds can help fantasy football managers get a win in We...ek 2 and beyond! Plus, injury updates and a recap of Monday Night Football. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(02:05) Monday Night Recap (08:45) NFL News(19:15) Waiver Wire(20:30) RB Waivers(26:00) WR Waivers(38:00) TE Waivers(43:45) DST Waivers(47:15) QB StreamersConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Fantasy Footmullers Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. The Fantasy Footballers podcast, Tuesday, September 9th. Welcome into the show. Right before the show began, Jason had taken a sip of what he called very gross coffee. It was very bitter and not good. And then as the show intro is playing, you took another set. And here you go again.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Like, oh, I'm going to finish it. Okay, okay. It's just bitter. Yeah. It's a bitter like your. Sometimes you have to do what you don't want to do. Bitter like your losses to me this week, Jason. Oh, that's, you know what?
Starting point is 00:01:15 Plural losses? Yeah, plural losses. Just the two most important things. Oh, Mike right, Mike wrong. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm Mike now. You wish.
Starting point is 00:01:26 No, those. You wish you had the king. I'm going to be honest with you, Mike. this is far worse than those losses. This coffee is not good. But also in those, those leagues, I expected L's going in. Okay. So does that make it go down smoother?
Starting point is 00:01:43 It does. Unfortunately, sometimes you, you know, it's like you look at the, you look at the schedule. You know, the NFL teams, they go out and they lose to the, you know, the bills. And they go, dang, I wanted to win that. But it's the bills. You go out and you lose to the Saints. and you're like, oh, no, kill me. I got it.
Starting point is 00:02:04 We are done with week one. We had a eventually fun Monday night football game. Oh, man. It turned from the worst to a great game. The whole world tweeted enough to where, I think, at halftime, everyone was like, okay, guys, we got to do something. It was so bizarre watching it unfold. of J.J. McCarthy
Starting point is 00:02:26 at the beginning, the Vikings versus the Bears that we're talking about. McCarthy at the beginning seemed frazzled, seemed very nervous, which I mean, the energy of that stadium and the Chicago Bears at the beginning was like, I felt I could feel it radiating off of the
Starting point is 00:02:44 television screen, like they were hyped and for so like it took a while for McCarthy and Caleb Williams starts on five. Nine for nine. and yet I'm watching going I don't think he's playing that well but it's like to say that out loud
Starting point is 00:03:02 it sounds real stupid you know he's literally completing 100% of his passes we're just he is and he's looking so athletic the eventually you had the freaking laser cannon down the like as he rolled out an unbelievable arm I mean there were there were throws and plays in the game
Starting point is 00:03:20 that were elite yes but it has been sort of his story to intermix that with mistakes and looking incompetent. I thought he got to 10 of 10. He did. I think he got to 10 of 10. And then he finished 21 of 35. I had a, we had like a group that was all doing the same kind of prize picks lineup.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And one of, I took the less on 65% completion percentage for Caleb Williams. He comes out 10 of 10. And I'm like, well, I lost that one. Did you end up winning that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He finished a 60%. And if you start 10 for 10, you've got a big lead.
Starting point is 00:03:57 The rest of the way, he was wild. It kind of felt like the scripted start to the game went really well for Caleb. And then, you know, it's hard. You don't want to make, you know, season-long conclusions from a game in which you're facing probably, you know, one of the best defenses in football in Minnesota. Caleb, like I said, he made plays, but not enough. And the team, you know, eventually J.J. McCarthy got it going. and figured it out. And I tweeted about this last night.
Starting point is 00:04:27 One of the reasons I love Kevin O'Connell so much is because I think almost any other coach, they do not win that game because what they do is they start to try to manage J.J. McCarthy in such a fashion that a comeback is almost impossible because you start to go all short area targets and screen game. And let's protect J.J. because the young quarterback is on the road and he looks frazzled and he threw a pick six. after the pick six, let's just manage him and do inside handoffs and let's run the ball a bunch, which they did. They ran it successfully to help get the play action going. But Kevin O'Connell,
Starting point is 00:05:03 like he just doesn't overcoach. He lets his players figure things out because that was the only way they're going to win that game is let J.J. make some downfield throws. He started completing them. You know, you can't. Some of these coaches just, they frustrate the heck out of me. And Kevin O'Connell is just
Starting point is 00:05:21 one of one. It was very filled Jackson-esque in the sense that you just Yeah, very zen. Yeah, you just let him go and it was it was funny too because I remember at one point after the pick six you know, you saw the you know the quarterbacks coach, you know, the offensive guys kind of talking with JJ and
Starting point is 00:05:37 you look at the head coach, he's just he's just stoic, no problem, he's not over there kind of like trying to rally him up and you know, it's just like let's keep pressing forward and it was an impressive game from the Vikings
Starting point is 00:05:53 overcome, you know, in a harsh environment, such a bad start. Because it was a bad, it was a bad opening first half for them offensively. What, 176, long into the third? I mean, it was an impressive comeback. It gives you a lot of hope for McCarthy. I don't know what it does for Bears fans other than make them feel the same way they felt for a long time, which is, you know. Ben Johnson's aging fast. He's going, by the end of this season, he's like a presidential term he is i just watched his press conference and it was like he is doing a uh an outstanding job of trying to not show how upset he is you know it's like he's like he's talking about the like you know we all have things to work on myself included
Starting point is 00:06:45 i made plenty of mistakes you know trying to say the right things but you can see underneath he's like oh i told them to kick the ball out the back of the end zone. There was the, and just the, the, the, the plays that Caleb missed. I mean, there was, DJ Moore wide open. DJ more touchdown that is, like, can't miss that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You cannot miss that throw. Can't miss that throw. But he did. And Minnesota ends up stealing the win on the road. Before we, Jordan Mason is a dog. Yeah, I mean, it was crazy because both of the running backs did a great job in this game. Jordan Mason was much better on the ground than Aaron Jones.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Aaron Jones had the big touchdown catch. and some blitz pickups that were impressive. Still looks like he has some juice. But they did the right thing. They went to Mason, the Mack truck, who could just, you know, he just ran with a ferocity that opened up the entire game. J.J. got into the end zone.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And, you know, there will be reinforcements coming for Minnesota. You know, Jordan Addison will come back after a couple of weeks, which will help things out. And it was fun to see. I want to invite you before we get into the waivers today to head over to join thefoot.com. As we get into this season, this is your opportunity to support the podcast, become a Foot Clan member. You get premium in-season tools, including the ultimate dashboard lineup optimizer, all of our advanced stats, a bonus weekly episode.
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Starting point is 00:08:43 Let's go ahead and get into the news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Okay, we had a trade yesterday, and we're still trying to confirm compensation. Yeah, that's the official Jacksonville. So now we're back to the original report. Yep. So who was it that posted that it was a swap? I don't know, but they were incorrect.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So Tank Bigsby was traded after one week of barely being used by Jacksonville. It's a big trade. Jacksonville trades Tank Bigsby, who was listed as a co-starter. For week one, I wonder if the usage had something to do with this of like they had already been talking about a trade. They're like, okay, well, we got to make sure he doesn't get hurt. 100%. And we got to see what we've got an ETN. That's what it feels like now knowing what we know is like they went into this week saying, okay, we've got a potential trade for Tank. Let's go see how we would do without him. So Tank Bigsby is now a Philadelphia Eagle. The original report
Starting point is 00:09:49 It said Jacksonville received a fifth and sixth round pick. For a while, it was being reported that it was a fifth and sixth swap, which that made more sense considering the depth chart in Philadelphia. Now this morning, as of moments ago, confirmed it was a fifth and six round pick. So Jacksonville gets a fifth and sixth. Mike was confused from the jump. It is because you had, like you had Will Shipley, and I know he got hurt and there was not really much reported on that.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Ribs, that's all we know. Yeah, and then they have AJ Dillon on the squad. So it was very strange of just the trade overall. They're going to go get tank. Then the compensation comes out, which for us, you know, we're like, oh, a five and a six. That's nothing. But in terms of trading players, we see good players traded for pennies. This is two picks, even though they're day three picks.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And then they're like, hey, we like him as a kick returner. So this whole thing is so. mind-boggling. I don't know what's going on. Will Shipley got hurt in the first week. He actually had worked himself into, I think the first or second drive, looked good on his two opportunities, and disappeared. So we'll see. Tank Biggsby departing Jacksonville also gives you just like pretty darn clear. Oh, yeah. Like Travis E.T.N. in a Liam Cohen offense after one week of seeing what he was able to do in it. I mean, this is who Jason believed in. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And we knew that one of these guys was potentially getting traded this offseason when the rumor started. Team Tank, massive L here. If ETN's going to be incredible and Bayshall Tootin sky rockets. How ready were. Oh, I was a hundred. I have been waiting. I'm holding my breath. You have not spoken in a while.
Starting point is 00:11:39 No, I'm waiting for Tootin. He goes from this like, oh, you know, a day three-ish. He's behind two co-starters to, he will be. he'll be worked in. He'll be used a good amount. But it'll be interesting to see how much will be just Travis E.TN in this offense. He had 16 carries three targets last week. And you know, what's he going to be? He's the number three running back after week one. Is that right? I mean, he had 143 yards. Yeah. Oh, 143 yards. Yeah, he had the big breakaway run. He looked excellent and Carolina continues to look terrible on rush defense. Every 49er
Starting point is 00:12:17 seems to be hurt. We got some good news. It's still injured news. It's good within the realm of you're still injured. I love the tweet from Benjamin Solac. I'll give him a shout out. He said, update out of San Francisco. Nobody has any legs or hands or internal organs or skin.
Starting point is 00:12:37 They'll be re-evaluated later in the week. Brock Purdy injured with a left shoulder or he injured his left shoulder and a toe. Just throwing that in. They said the toe is the bigger concern. We have solved this problem. Just pop that thing off, man. Oh, I forgot about your Malik neighbor's advice. Are you a dog or not? You want to play?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Not a dog. Brock's a dog. Okay. Nobody he'll pop that off. Say bye-bye to that toe. He's not even going to the doctor. I think you really don't know how important your toes are. George Kittle. I also underestimate how terrible that would be. This one is.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Oh, Jason doing his yearly my guy gets hurt in week one routine. It was week two last year for Pachico, thank you very much. He got two solid weeks. Pretty proud of that. George Kittle now expected to miss a few weeks because of the hamstring injury, and it might be IR. Yeah, I bet it is. I heard even five or six weeks. So it will be very, it will be very, very telling as to whether they put him on IR before this week's game.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I mean, that we'll know whether they hope to have him back earlier than that five and six week timeline. But that is brutal. He was dominating. and is so important to this depleted offense. And now he's gone. When he went to the side and immediately had a hat on, I know. It was, oh, he is hurt, hurt.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah, Juan Jennings, I guess, was the news you said is positive. He did get hurt. He just avoided serious injury. So, you know, the MRI didn't show extensive damage. He could suit up in week two. I mean, there's not a world where I'm feeling comfortable playing Juan Jennings right now anyways. No. No, no, I mean
Starting point is 00:14:17 He didn't do much in week one And now he's hurt and might not play And if we get Mac Jones I mean Well, and they sign Kendrick Bourne We should report that as well Yeah, Kendrick Bourne will be up there Two for 16 in week one from Jennings
Starting point is 00:14:32 Does Mack Jones come in and Throw Ricky Pierce all the ball 12 times? Do we get the Brian Thomas treatment? And then DeMarcus Robinson Will probably matter at some point He might. He's only out two more games from his suspension.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Kevin Stefansky said we'll see when asked if Quinchon Judkins would play in week two. So we're waiting on that. And then Brian Dable, he confirmed Russell Wilson will start in week two. It was reported... Catapult this man into the ocean. It was reported that he had gone to management
Starting point is 00:15:04 about asking to have Jackson dart start. A dart start. So the head coach who makes... Oh, no, you know, you don't know. No? Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:15:17 They make the decision for sure. Wink. Yeah. I thought the arrangement is the general manager. You think Dave all paid Daniel Jones? No, no, the management decides what players are on the team. The coach decides what players are on the field. Oh, I think this was above the, was this not him going to the ownership?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah, it was him going to ownership. Yeah, and this is not general manager. Then put James in. I agree. That would be, that was what I would do. I was telling Mike. Not Russell. Team not Russell. The problem that they have is they wanted to show their support of Jackson DART
Starting point is 00:15:52 before the season. And so in order to show how good he did, they said, you know what? You're elevated to number two on the depth chart. And so now he's the backup. But it's like, well, we can't go to him yet this early. But you can't have Russ out there. And now you screwed yourself because what you should do is go to James. So this is one example of why Malik neighbors,
Starting point is 00:16:15 situation was less appealing than a lot of other top-tier wide receivers is, I mean, are we going to see all three guys at some point? Because it feels that way. And there's a, you know, James would be, James would be great. It's just, James would be great, but Jackson Dart is not a guarantee to be great for Malik neighbors. It's so wild to me. If those reports are true, because it's just a great fine, of that your head coach is coming to you saying, we can't play this guy anymore. We need somebody else. And They're like, nope, you need to, you just need to keep playing. And then you're just going to fire me because you wouldn't let me put the guy out.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yes, thank you. I mean, if I'm Brian Dable, there's a power outage while Russ is in the elevator this weekend. Nice. It's not falling people. It's just stuck. No, no, there's nothing wrong with that. He's going to be there for a few hours. Battery backups were cut.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Leave a couple bottles of water. there. Oh, for sure. They were just having to be a Costco. Oh, there'll be some snacks. There's a cooler in here. They left a bucket in there. They are thoughtful. Oh, because you can, you can, if he's got to. It's a humane. I mean, it is Russ. It's a humane trapping. You know. Speaking of diarrhea. Did you see, uh, I mean, I don't know if it comforts you, Jason, the diarrhea of Kyla Murray, but he was up at 4.30 in the morning in the, with like,
Starting point is 00:17:40 throwing up in diarrhea. That does come for me. I genuinely, genuinely, my only hope. as a Cardinals fan is that he was horrifically ill because if he's up at 4 a.m. That's what I mean. Both ending. Both ending. He was, uh, 25, 25 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:17:58 You know, I know, I know, 21 for 29. And, um, seven rushing attempts. Didn't look great. Yeah. Still played bad if you watch. We are, we are his worst critic. We are his worst critic. At this point, we're burnt out.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Do you think ownership was just basically saying with the Jackson Dart, Like, he is not allowed to start until Andrew Thomas is back. Yes. Like, yes, absolutely. I wouldn't start him without an offensive word. No. Just give the team a chance. Put James out there.
Starting point is 00:18:27 All right. That was news and note sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com, progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or situations, coverage subject policy terms, limits, and conditions. We'll take a break, and then it's into the waiver wire. All right, it is week one. It is time to find some options on the waiver wire. The waiver wire presented by Walmart.
Starting point is 00:19:00 All right. Well, I'm curious. Before we get into the names, we're starting at running back. We'll go to wide receiver tight in and we'll get into our streams of the week at quarterback. But, like, I would love to know just how you look at the waiver wire in week one, right? because, you know, we don't want to overreact to player performances. Very, very, very frequently, you have week one performances that, you know, they're great. They disappear.
Starting point is 00:19:25 They fade into nothingness. You don't want to waste all your fab or your waiver priority. You do want to pick up players you think you have a long-term future. But how do you, like you have a lot of leagues? How are you thinking about it? Yeah, week one and week two waivers are exceptionally important. We did a study looking at the quality of waiver pickups, not just how many total fantasy points that they have scored on the course of the season,
Starting point is 00:19:46 because obviously if you get them early, you get more weeks. But actually, how many points per game do the waiver wire pickups score per game in different weeks? And the first two week pickups are worth so much more than the rest of the season. Yes, there will be someone in week four, eight, whatever, who gets thrust into a starting running back position because of an injury ahead of them. This week one, we literally had almost no running back injuries. I mean, there was very little, a little stinger to Jonathan Taylor's neck. I mean, backups got hurt, but this was a very healthy week one, knock on wood. That being said, this is where you see the emergence of certain players,
Starting point is 00:20:28 whether it's snap percentage or just quality of how they've leveled up. And so I think you want to go hard in week one. I will say that in 2025, this season, the running back pickups, I feel like there's four decent options, but there's not a Kyron Williams sitting out there. There's not one of these great, like, oh, you got to go spend a lot on this player necessarily. So what are those four names? Because, I mean, Judkins is on the list, but he's rostered in 85% of the league. So most situations are not going to have the opportunity to go get him.
Starting point is 00:21:05 He was drafted. Yeah, he's one of them to me. To me, it's the Cleveland Brown's backfield of. of Quinn John Judkins if he's there and Dylan Samson who I think retains the pass catching role I say Beissel Tutin because he's now going to be
Starting point is 00:21:21 Tudin's at the top of the list for me. To me it's Tuton and Trey Benson that you're hoping are flex with benefits they are going to be somewhat startable they will get enough work to where you can throw them in in a flex in a pinch they're not just
Starting point is 00:21:36 a complete insurance option backup but they still have that insurance policy where if the starter goes down now they're they're real fantasy gold i don't know if philosophically i agree this year at running back like i wouldn't go very hard if juggins is not out there i'm actually not going very hard at running back this week um i don't see anybody i can guarantee start next week and that's gonna you know i know a lot of people are thin at running back players like um you know if you had tank bigsby he's not he's not an option anymore right like Like, people drafted him to maybe be a running back option.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Maybe you don't feel very good about, you know, Nick Chubb or some of these other guys that you, you, like, I don't feel like I can play Tudin next week and feel good about it. I don't feel that way about Trey Benson. I mean, I could get lucky, but he had eight carries. So it's one of those situations where I'm actually probably going to conserve a little bit and look for. We're in agreement, just to be clear. When I say I go hard in week one, that's where I caveat the running backs aren't where I'm going. Okay, yeah, and then... I think Tutin can be a 10-plus opportunity guy.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I feel that way, but they also put... They had LeQuint Allen, right? Yep, yeah. So they had other players in there, so I'm a little bit more hesitant. I do agree. He's probably the top ad. Samson looked good, but now with Judkins and Ford and the Brown's offense, it makes me a little bit more concerned about weekly starter potential.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Monong guy, we were hoping to see something from him. We didn't. He had zero carries. Kareem Hunt. Look, Kareem Hunt, I think, should be rostered. He got a lot of snaps. He didn't produce. The Chief's backfield, if this is really what they're going to do to us.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It was a mess. Yeah, then they're... It was the chargers. They were down. I mean, there will be games in their head. Sure, but the game opened. Isaiah Pacheco took the first nap. Then rookie Breschard Smith came in
Starting point is 00:23:37 and took the second snap. And then Karim Hunt came in and took the third snap. I mean, if this is the approach that they're going to go, that literally all three players are going to get time, then it will be touchdown or bust. Drop candidates, you know, not a lot in week one. A lot of people are holding, but, you know, Tank Bigsby, I think is a drop. I think I would absolutely, you need flexibility this week.
Starting point is 00:23:59 There's no world where I'm holding Tank Bigsby. Yeah, no, I'm fine dropping Tank Bigsby. I love Will Shipley. He came in early. looked great. There was a report out that said they were looking at Tank as a kick returner. This had nothing to do with Will Shipley's injury. Okay. Let's just assume that's true. I still now wonder, do you hold on to Will Shipley? Or do you cut him with Tank there and A.J. Dillon there and Will Shipley. I don't want any of the backups. I agree. It's like I have a lot of Will Shipley on my leagues.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I was happy with what I saw. And now I'm like, he's probably someone I'm cutting. I want to throw one more name out before we move on. I think DJ Giddens is someone that absolutely needs to be rostered. First of all, there was an injury to Jonathan Taylor's neck. We saw, they were up so big against the Miami Dolphins that they said Jonathan Taylor was fine. He got checked out. But because they were up so much, they didn't put them back in. We thought when we were watching live that they just were like, we're up 30 in the fourth bench him, which I would have done the same. Jonathan and Taylor looked awesome, but it was clarity was given to us. DJ Giddens, the rookie running back, he was the guy that came in and took everything.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So if John and Taylor goes down, DJ Giddens is the guy. So I think he's a good insurance. Like I would drop Will Shipley to pick up DJ Giddens. That makes sense. And to go along with Shipley, would you drop, we talked about Bigsby, but would you drop Caleb Johnson, Jerome Ford, Braylin Allen, Pam Scada Boot? You need to drop somebody if you're going to pick up a waiver guy this week. Yeah, so I would drop Tank.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I would drop Olly Gordon. I would drop Braylon Allen. I would probably drop Jerome Ford. He's tough because right now he is a starter and we don't know with Quinshaw and Judkins, so I might want to hold on to him for one more week. I'm not dropping the rookies in Camp Scataboo and Caleb Johnson. I drafted them knowing it might be a couple weeks before they get more involved. So if you have to have a roster spot, you can.
Starting point is 00:26:00 wide receiver top pickups. Ironically, the Chargers receiver room is going to get a lot of attention today. Keenan Allen's probably not out there, but he is out there in about 40% of leagues. So he is a must add, and I think, and we'll see if you guys agree, but I think Quentin Johnson is a must add. He is 100% a must add. And he's only 10% rostered. He was 5 for 79 and 2.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He caught the ball. And the way this passing offense looked in week one, very encouraging. And you're talking about kind of different archetypes when, you know, Keenan, McConkey versus what Quentin Johnston brings to the table. Quentin Johnson has the high potential upside. We talked about yesterday the stat of, you know, when you're scoring more than 21 fantasy points in a game, Quentin Johnson's had four of those since the beginning of last season. You remember how many touchdowns he had last year off the top of your head?
Starting point is 00:26:55 I know it was a lot. It's more than seven. It's eight. Oh, man. Way more. That is one more than seven. Personally, if both of those guys are out there, if I'm in one of the leagues of Keenan Allen's out there,
Starting point is 00:27:08 I would much prefer to have Keenan. Keenan is a locked-in. He got double-digit targets right off the bat. He is the best friend of Herbert. Keenan is like a weekly starter. I do agree Quentin Johnson is more of the high upside, but you're going to have a lot of volatility. Now, do you like Hollywood the most?
Starting point is 00:27:29 Do you like him more than adding Johnston this week? I don't. I would put him, no, no, he's behind those guys because he should be a rental. I mean, hypothetically, you know, if everyone stays healthy for Los Angeles, those will be the three guys. And where Hollywood Brown, he was a product of necessity of you lost worthy right away. Did we get a worthy update on the shoulder yet today? I have not seen I haven't seen anything either
Starting point is 00:28:00 I expect him back at some point and then Rice will be back it's not that he is or he is a good rental in the time being you get Philadelphia the Giants in Baltimore you actually want them losing
Starting point is 00:28:18 sure right now yeah because you want 16 targets but so he's compared to Cuge and Keenan Allen it's just for a chunk of time which is should make him cost less. He was awesome. My only worry there is that because it was in a game plan that expected to have Xavier Worthy there and then this is what they kind of threw at the wall, I don't know if going into another week, maybe rookie Jalen Royals gets more involved. I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:43 he's hurt. He's hurt for week one. He was hurt for week one. So I don't know. Tyquan Thornton will score this week, by the way. Oh, is that a touchdown guarantee? Is a touchdown guarantee? The first one of the year. Tyquan Thornton of the Kansas City Chiefs will score this week. Okay. The touchdown will be 42 yards, exactly. Okay, okay. Okay. Getting a little big for the britches over there.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I mean, that's a must start. 42 yards. He will score. That's 10 points off. Thornton is on no he's on no rosters. He had four targets. He had a couple deep shots. He will guaranteed score this week. Sederick Tillman is a must add. Eight targets
Starting point is 00:29:22 five for 52 and one. Tillman started alongside Jerry Judy. He also, like Jerry Judy, threw the ball up into the air to be intercepted on behalf of Joe Flacko. I think there's an argument that Tillman is more valuable than even Quentin Johnston. No, I'm fine with Tillman being the number one ad. I really am. We've seen, I believe, four games now without Amari Cooper where Jerry Judy and Tillman played the full games. And in those games, both were outstanding, but I believe Tillman has even more receptions.
Starting point is 00:29:52 He had the year two kind of breakout happening last year Before the concussion, they shut him down for the rest of the season The fact that he came out week one, eight targets, and he's got Joe Flacko. Now the schedule coming up is difficult, but I really like Tillman. There's a name that I think is worth spending some time on. Yeah, I'm going to love it. Only 4% rostered, only 23 years old. He's got some but don't get from wide receiver university.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Don't forget. Oh, you're ahead of them. And what I saw in the field for New England last week told me that, you know, DeMarie Douglas had one catch. Stefan Diggs looked irrelevant in the offense. I thought he had two. I saw J.J. put out the craziest stat line for. Douglas was two. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, read the stat line.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Two for negative two. With a touchdown. With a touchdown. Look, but it was more about Diggs. It was more about so far. I know Diggs could be coming back from the ACL, but you're older. You also just aren't Diggs. Kishon Booty is the name.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Kishon Booty is 23 years old. He really, really flashed at the end of 2024 with Drake May in a time when you weren't paying attention. He was the wide receiver 11 and the wide receiver 4 in two of the final three weeks of the season. He plays a ton of snaps. He had eight targets this week. You talk about a wide receiver room where you're trying to find Kyle Williams and Demerio Douglas and Stefan Diggs. Hunter Henry always does his week one thing. It was Kachan Booty that.
Starting point is 00:31:20 makes you, I think it's going to stick. I do too. Keep in mind, Kisham Booty had a year at LSU where he was ahead of Malik neighbors, ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. He was supposed to be the next star, had a very bad injury, and then was like, where did he fall in the draft? He was a sixth round pick. He was an afterthought. But now he's looked at the part. You go back to last year, he looked at the end of the year with Drake May. So you believe. I 100% believe. In the booty. Last year with Drake May, He had a game, you know, five for 95, seven for 117. You come out in the first week of year two, and he's the clear number one.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Kayshan Booty is a must add. I mean, this is where I say I'm going hard in week one. It's at wide receivers. Kenan Allen, Quentin Johnson, Cedrican Tillman, Kayshan Booty, and a, you know, a sprinkle on Hollywood. Those are like, I'm going hard after them. And I still think there's a couple more names worthy of important ads. Yeah, let's all name one more that we're a. fan of. Ellick Iommanner had seven
Starting point is 00:32:22 targets in Tennessee in a tough matchup against Denver, also had a catch negated by his own dumb coach, who didn't know the rules. Oh, my goodness. Well, there's so many of them. 28% target share. I would venture to guess that at least 60% of
Starting point is 00:32:37 casual fans. Casual. Not people listening to this show that watch all these games. You knew that an elbow meant you were down? Knew that, like, yeah, if you land on an elbow in bounds, that that counts in bounds. You don't also need a foot. Yeah, he sounded so dumb. I can't imagine how bad it's going to be at his next presser because they're going to, I mean, how do you answer that?
Starting point is 00:32:56 I was thinking about this this morning. So for those that don't know, Brian Callahan, head coach of the, the ever frustrated head coach of the Tennessee Titans, you know, didn't challenge a play where Iommanner caught the ball, got an elbow down before his feet laying it out of bounds. And in the press conference, he literally says, he goes, well, you need one foot after an elbow. You can't just get an elbow down, which is wrong, completely wrong. But now how do you answer that if today, here, let me do it. Okay, all right. Am I Brian? You're Brian, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Coach, yesterday you mentioned that, you know, you didn't challenge because of the elbow foot rule. Obviously, you know, the elbow is, they're down. Why did you, any thoughts today? Yeah, look, in the moment, you know, opening week, blah. I'm showing up to the presser with a big oversized prop that says, rules. Ah, and just be like, oh, you're playing it up? I thought you were bringing a newspaper.
Starting point is 00:33:55 You're going to just like hide. I'm either bringing that book or I'm bringing a smoke bomb. It is a real. Oh, smoke palm's a good idea. I think you've got to come out and lead with it. Genuinely, like, he needs to come out and say, yeah, I obviously made a mistake. Yeah, I obviously made a mistake. I'm an idiot. It'll be, it'll be fine. I've hired someone to be my rules expert.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Get the freaking maddened teenager on to your, onto your coaching staff to manage your clock to know all the rules because they know them. Is that the catch child as well or is that a different person? The catch child. It used to be the catch child. They grew up playing more mad and now they graduated to the rules analyst. All right. So Ellick Iron Manor, still the name I'm going to bring up
Starting point is 00:34:32 28% target chair for Cam Ward. Cam Ward was very inaccurate in week one facing the Denver defense. It will get better for him and Io Manor was an every down guy. Like if you still believe Calvin Ridley can do something, I think Iowa Manor, you give him a week. Seven targets is a lot. I'll bring
Starting point is 00:34:48 up two names quickly. One is Kendrick Bourne. We mentioned that the San Francisco 49ers signed him. I would not play him if Mack Jones is the starter, but he will cost you nothing. It's a zero dollar bid. Another one that is available in about 40% of leagues. He was drafted in some places. Darnel Mooney, we don't know if he's playing week two. So don't spend if he's out there, but we don't know that Drake London. Probably, I don't think Drake London plays this week. We don't have, we don't have an update yet, but just usually. if it's an AC sprain. I mean, maybe he does. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:22 We don't know for sure. But there's a chance that he, that Darnell Mooney is out there and Drake London is not. And if he is, then he's like a must start type of player. Mike, do you have a name? Have we gotten through them all? I mean, it's more like the, you know, the neighborhoods that's like take a book, leave a book. You've seen those. Like Romeo Dobbs is like that with the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Oh, for sure. He's just like, hey, use your team need a wide receiver this week? Just pick them up. Put him back. Put him back on the waiver wire when you're done. Even with the oversized helmet. Oh, he looks so funny. But also, Chris.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Chris, I love it. Why are you not wearing the guardian? Yes, like. How big can you make them? Let's find out. Can you bring like the bicycle pump and just like put the, just pump it up a little extra? I was thinking of one of those plastic gerbil wheels that you just get up on,
Starting point is 00:36:17 put your head in there. I mean, I would do everything. There was a play against Cardinals where he took a hard hit and he stayed down a little bit. And it wasn't a hit to the head, but it sure looked like it rocked the brain a little bit. Well, I honestly thought he got up real quick to try to pretend like he was okay. Drop candidates that are coming in off of Twitter, Cooper Cup, who looked like not good. Yeah, I'm fine dropping Cooper Cup. Josh Downs.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Josh Downs played again only the slot role. Yeah, it's concerned. Tyler Warren is probably the number. number one target for this team. He was in week one. Michael Pitman is ahead on the snap percentage. I'm fine moving on from Josh Downs. He's not a must drop. I agree. And Jaden Higgins, just remember, Josh Downs is coming off of the injury, so there's a chance that he was slow played as well. I personally would definitely not drop Jaden Higgins. The opportunity is there. I watched all of his routes this morning again, and he wasn't on the
Starting point is 00:37:11 field as much as you want. Now, Kurt could come back here, though, in a couple weeks. sure but hopefully by the time he comes back jaden higgins has worked his way up to an 80% snap player john jennings with the injury i'm fine dropping him i'm not waiting around to have him come back slowly i'll pick him back up off of waivers when he's back but he doesn't need to clog a roster spot we do have a weekly targets per outrun report on the website by one of our writers a j passman you can check that out at the fantasy footballers dot com we'll take one more break come back with tight ends and quarterbacks all right time to get into it tight-in position uh you know really tough to chase tight-ins yeah i think there's some guys to chase there there are at least five i was going to say
Starting point is 00:38:02 you're i got four i would say four i'm going six okay yeah six seven That's it Nice The youths Love it Yeah Yeah Harold Fanon
Starting point is 00:38:15 You feel bad Is rubbing his face He is not He was not happy with that See He's like you old men You old men aren't allowed Jason would you mind
Starting point is 00:38:23 Oh yeah Yeah yeah Hold on How about now Can we do it now Are we cool All right Backwards caps
Starting point is 00:38:29 This is what happens Man You become the old guy And then you You take what's cool And you do it And you ruin And you ruin it
Starting point is 00:38:36 For everyone See I don't even know there was a hand gesture, but my daughter did that this morning. Oh, come on. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. She was doing like, uh, she made the six and the seven. Oh, that's, that must be, that might be new. That's next level. Yeah, that might be new. She might be breaking that out. She might have, should trends start her. Yeah. All right, listen, let's talk tight ends. There are, there are, um, some interesting names. I, look, I don't know if you're
Starting point is 00:38:57 including Hunter Henry. I'm, I'm not going to do that. He was when I moved up to six. Yeah, I figured. Yeah. But for me, um, the more interesting names, Harold Finan junior, rookie tight end, collegiate sensation, nine targets, seven for sixty three when you look at Cleveland. I've got a different point of view here. I don't know, like, it does hurt David Najoku, yes, to have Harold Fanta Jr. involved. Both of them were on the field a ton.
Starting point is 00:39:25 That's the point, though, is they run a ton of 12 in Cleveland. So I think you're going to see Najoku and Harold Fannan Jr. on the field a lot, and you're going to throw the ball a lot as long as Joe Flacco is your quarterback. So to me, Harold Fanon is a great, like we've had rookie tight-ins make a huge impact four years. We already had two in week one. Like Harold Fanon, Tyler Warren, both of these guys made a big impact. Didn't see that from Colson Loveland. But, like, Fanon is a must add to me.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I completely agree. The scouting report coming in, we talked about he had a bad combine and he played at a smaller school. He's not an athletic profile. And I remember watching the film, an hour, what I said on him was like, it's so weird. watch him, and he runs like he's got lead in his feet. You don't understand why it works, and it works every single play. And my landing spot was I'm in. I'm in on believing Harold Fanon is great. He had 117 receptions in college as a tight end. That's not good. That's unheard of. 1500 yards, double-digit touchdowns. And so the fact that week one, right off the
Starting point is 00:40:32 the bat he's nine targets this is he i believe he will be involved i'm totally fine if you are struggling for a tight end and you want to pick up harold fanon he he has to be picked up in case he becomes just a full breakout isaiah likely please don't forget he exists izaa likely because you know who doesn't exist mark andrew that's right oh man uh mike will want to talk about the 11 targets the eight catches the 76 yards for the recently paid and seemingly important Joanne Johnson. A route on 96% of dropbacks.
Starting point is 00:41:08 This was not an, he didn't accidentally get 11 targets. This was, Kellen Moore saw what the staff was and they said you are. Not blocking. Yeah, you're not blocking. And Joanne's one of those converted wide receiver guys. He like, that's what he played and then he became a tight end
Starting point is 00:41:24 because he got too big. And, but he built up that skill set. Both, I'm really struggling between Fannin and Jouan, who I would target, because I think that they are both crucial must ads for
Starting point is 00:41:40 all 12 team leagues out there. If you, Juan was 62% of his snaps was in the slot. And if you recall the times of when Kellemore was on Philadelphia, was like, oh man, if DeVantza Smith is in the, in the slot,
Starting point is 00:41:57 like that is an important role for the Kellemore offense. So I'm varying on fan. I'm very in on Joanne, like, to the point of, if you're looking at your, you're looking good. And you're like, I got this one guy I can get rid of. I wouldn't mind literally blocking people from getting one of those tight ends. I think you don't want your opponents to get them. Two other names. One, I like a little bit more. Like, Brent and Strange had a really good week one. And he gets the Bengals. I could see that. He was four for 59. It was a weird off day
Starting point is 00:42:28 for Brian Thomas. You're still acclimating Travis Hunter. So I wouldn't, I'm not over-emphasizing Britain Strange. I think you're going to have, I just don't know if his ceiling is what some of these other guys are. And I will say, like Johnny Smith was coming back from injury, still had six targets, five catches, had a touchdown. I know we don't like it. Arthur loves this dude. I can't imagine there's not designed Johnny Smith plays five, six, seven times a game, every game forever. No, I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:56 He was one of my five. You know, I think the tight end and wide receivers are very deep for good pickup. and you can never, you know, most people don't have a good tight-in, so take your shots. I agree with Mike. Even if you've kind of got someone that's like, you know, you don't have one of the top two, three guys or you lost George Kittle. But if you've got a decent, you know, you've got Hawkinson, who did very little. But obviously you're not going to start most of these guys over Hawkinson next week, but you're not sure. Pick up one of these guys as a backup. Yeah, no, it makes sense. People want to know, can they drop Mark Andrews? Can they drop Evan Ingram?
Starting point is 00:43:32 Mark Andrews, for sure. It might be yes and yes. Evan Engram is the... With the injury. Because he is the injury. It was a calf? Is that right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah. Defensively this week, Arizona, they were probably rostering in week one against New Orleans, but they have Carolina this week, which is great. The Rams looked awesome on defense in week one. Oh, the Rams? They're probably the best pickup because they face Cam Ward. Now, they're in Tennessee, but that seems like a great pickup.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Their defense was so good. I know we talked a lot about the offensive line. problems for the Texans, but part of their offensive line problems was the Rams defense. I think they're going to be one of the best this year. San Francisco plays New Orleans, who Arizona played last week. San Francisco, 59% rostered. The Patriots play Miami. Miami looked incompetent.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Patriots, they are going on the road in that one, 26% rostered. And then Dallas, just 5% roster, but they play the Giants and they're out home. And Russell Wilson named Week 2 starter. Yeah, that makes Dallas pretty attractive there. So you can see all the waiver wire rankings on the website, the fantasy footballers.com. And like Jason said at the top, the ultimate dashboard customized waiver wire rankings for your league,
Starting point is 00:44:39 for each of your teams in the ultimate dashboard. And you can get access to that in a ton of awesome in season resources and perks, including all the resources are on the in season app as well. So you can go, if you're on the app store, just type in the fantasy footballers and you will get the app. And if you're a foot claim member, you get access. I've been spoiled. like we we uh my my my child got in a car accident unfortunately a couple weeks ago and we were down
Starting point is 00:45:09 what a loser i know right um we were down to two cars you got to fill in the context there man uh it sounded pretty bad my kid my kid got into an accident last week too yeah mine was not my kid's fault um anyways oh boom chakalaka you brought that up yeah you didn't call him a loser um Anyways, my point is we were a three-car family for a couple months. Everybody's 16 years old. Yes, everyone in all situations is okay. Except for my insurance. We were down to two cars, and it was like, oh, my gosh, how are we going to be a two-car family?
Starting point is 00:45:44 It's like, we were a two-car family for 16 years after a couple months. It's impossible. That's how I feel about the dashboard. Like, we launched the ultimate dashboard last year. What in the world? No, listen, it started my, I've been spoiled. My kid got into an accident. Until the sentence started.
Starting point is 00:46:00 No, but it started with the ultimate dashboard because two years ago, we didn't have the ultimate dashboard. It's fine. Now I've got so many leagues. Oh, and their dashboard got crunched. And I'm just saying, like, I feel like I can't live without it anymore. I try, like last week. Mike, what is happening here? I don't know if this is the greatest or worst pitch.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It's not a pitch. It's really not a pitch. You don't need to go get the local dashboard. Why is this right into your car? My point is I feel like I can't live without that thing anymore. even though I did it for the last 20 years. The last 20 years, I had to go in every league manually, look at all my lineups manually, look at all my waivers manually.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And now it's like with the dashboard, I go in and I'm like, okay, this is what I need to change. This is who I need to pick up. It's wonderful. Ultimate dashboard. Better than a car crash. Yes. See, that's bringing the pitch home, Mike.
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Starting point is 00:47:12 Here we go. Full stream ahead. Quarterback streamers for week number two. Mike, why don't you start us off? I totally believe in this guy. I see as you just traded for him in our league of records. So welcome. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:35 All are welcome. Yes. What's his name? To support Justin Fields. They look really good. Starting quarterback of the New York Jets. Oh, and he runs. He runs.
Starting point is 00:47:43 He's in the streamer area here because he's going to get picked up. If he's on your way of wire, he will be picked up. And I don't think he's going to be allowed to be in this section from here on out. So let's use it while we can. Justin Fields versus Buffalo. He runs a ton. Obviously, we had the naked bootleg, easy touchdown, and he just, he looked good.
Starting point is 00:48:05 He has a team that I believe wanted Justin Fields, and they're saying, we want you because you are good at these things. So let's do those things that you are good at. And he takes on the Buffalo. They're going to need to score a ton. They should have won the game, and their head coach is a defensive-minded head coach, and they could not slow down Aaron Rogers. Maybe he's secretly an offensive coach.
Starting point is 00:48:27 It was just one of those games where you look at it and you're like, much like Lamar's game, it's like, what else could Justin Fields have done? I mean, he played outstanding and he's a great high floor starter as long as he's starting. I'll go next because it's very similar to mics. This is another Justin who is on, you know, about half of waivers, and I don't think we'll be able to say his name again the rest of the season after this week. I agree. Personally, if this guy's on my waivers, I'm going after him no matter what, because I'm a believer.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It's Justin Herbert. Are you going after him or Fields? I would go after Herbert Overfields. Personally, I believe in what we saw. I'm very curious. We have tomorrow we're doing an overreactions episode on the Dynasty podcast, and I looked at the show doc, and Kyle has put in the Justin Herbert, the passing volume of the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And now I don't currently know where we're surprising each other. I don't know if he's saying we're overreacting to the fact that he threw the ball so much against the Chiefs, and that might have been the game plan, or if he believes that that's what it is going forward. personally, I believe Justin Herbert is going to be awesome this year. I saw, I think we all saw the potential for this to be an outcome this year, but I'm buying in after week one because he was incredible and because he has the weapons. Why would you go away from? We did list the top waiver option pickups are two of his wide receivers. Yeah, exactly. You've got, you, you've got Ladd McConkey, Quinn Johnston, you've got, Keenan Allen. It's going to be a really good year for this team. He needed
Starting point is 00:49:55 more receiver weapons last year. Yeah. It, you know, if they get ahead by running the football, they may keep running the football. I think those games will happen. But more often than not, I think Herbert, you know, I don't know why you can't look at him through a similar lens as Baker Mayfield. Like, Baker's
Starting point is 00:50:12 somehow in our normal start category. I figure Herbert will be there. Harbaugh came out and had one of the greatest quotes, which was his job is to make Justin Herbert a Hall of Famer. And I agree, right? He's not going to the Hall of Fame probably without a Super Bowl. So, I mean, that is his job, right? They play on Monday night football this week, prime time in front of the world in Las Vegas,
Starting point is 00:50:36 where last year, this team in Las Vegas, Justin Herbert, was the quarterback three. They're going to throw the ball in that game. And obviously, if they're up a bunch of scores, they'll run it out. But they're getting up a bunch of scores by Justin Herbert touchdowns. Jake May against Miami is my stream of the week. Miami laid an egg last week made Daniel Jones an all-star. I mean, we could probably talk about Daniel Jones as well in this segment, just to ask the question of, do you believe? We just all want to see at least one more.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Definitely, we do. But May gets to play Miami, and hopefully, you know, Drake May, J.J. McCarthy, Michael Pinnock Jr., Caleb Williams, honestly, all of them, some good plays, some bad plays. Some plays that look like, oh, that's, you know, Bo Nicks, throw them in the category. I mean, these were all the sophomores that, like, oh, okay. You look like a star on that play And you look kind of bad on the next one Yeah, Drake, me It's gonna be me
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah, we're bringing it back It's not about the months anymore It's about Drake Why are you explaining it? Because, you know, for those that Would you trade Bo Nix for Justin Fields? No Mike is literally
Starting point is 00:51:45 I mean, he literally has Bo Nix as his starter Hmm I think the answer is yes for Mike I'm just gonna answer for him Okay, so answer it for yourself It's tough. It's tough. Yeah, it's one week. Yeah. Take a breath.
Starting point is 00:52:00 We have, what are we doing tomorrow? We're doing some take checks. We're going to take a look at things we said in the off season that we think are working out and some things we think are not working out according to our perspective coming into the year and the way we were predicting things. We also have a Thursday night breakdown. We'll get into the mailbag and then we'll move on to starts the week, the matchup previews the rest
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