Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 3 Matchups + Wheel of Shame Returns! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/19

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 19, 2025. Week 3 start/sit advice for fantasy football lineups! Lots of matchups covered on today’s show with fantasy football player outlooks. Plus, injury updates, and a recap of Thursday Night Football! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Friday, September 19th Andy Mike and Jason the fantasy footballers podcast. I think we started the show

three or four minutes late because we were we were just ranting about somebody in our league who was really getting under Mike's skin with a trade. Not just Mike. But then we were talking about co-managers. There's co-managers that help you out. And there's co-managers that get in the way.

Are you making deals? Sure. And I made the point that the co-managers are there to react to the deals that I make. Right. They're not there to necessarily. They're there to consult if I want them. Yeah. But this is much like a king.

And then there's just a member of the court. Yes. If I want to. I was going to go like a manager and assistant manager. No, I'm going king. No, it's different from my team. And they can come, if I summon them to the court. Right. They're allowed. They are permitted. They'll be brought to the court. And I can, I can inquire of the wise man, whether they like the trade that I'm about to offer. But sometimes, look, you need to stay nimble. You need to be able to make a quick move. That part is true. Yeah, co-managers, maybe that's the problem. Maybe that we're calling it like. Right. Come. You're not really a co-manager. No, there's a monarchy. Assistant to the manager, you know. Right. No, everyone approaches it differently, but in this particular case, the co-managers were getting in the way of like some real discourse, some real quick, nimble trade counters and things like that.

But look, that is the passion that comes with fantasy football. Oh, welcome into a Friday episode, more matchups today, some news to catch you up on, including a little, practice injury that we were not happy to see happen yesterday. We have some things to let you know about if you are a member of the Foot Clan and you have the ultimate dashboard. We have a few updates coming your way. We are working hard on a couple of trade tools. So we're looking at a trade analyzer tool. We're looking at a trade partner finder that we haven't named it yet.

I think that's it, man. The trade partner finder. trade partner finder the TPF tool the TPF that's like TPF reports um we've got some other updates coming including the much requested never before seeing but we'll be seen soon rest of season rankings are coming to uh the foot clan perks as well so wanted to let our foot clan supporters know that we are going to add some cool stuff here very soon for those that are not a part you can check out all of the perks at join the foot dot com we had a Thursday night football game game. It did. And you know what? It was a game. The Dolphins, tip of the cap, they made it a very

interesting game. They covered the spread. They certainly did. Still lost by 10. Yeah, but they did cover the spread. Those people making those spreads are very good at what they did. It was 11 and half. Yeah. Yeah, it was, uh, it was a close one. You had a touchdown each from Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle, not big yardage numbers from either one of them. Devon H. H. The screen man, uh, seven for 29. Ollie Gordon involved, involved early looking. Nine carries compared to 12 for H. this was one of those hold the course on rookie running backs, rookie wide receivers, the slow starts that we kind of talked about already this week is, you know, if you had looked and been like, oh, well, Ollie Gordon is completely uninvolved last week. Well, he's a rookie. He's still

trying to figure it out. They came in now to week three and said, let's try this. Let's get him more involved in it worked early on for him. I actually thought he looked great. Yeah. So, yeah, Ollie Gordon's going to be in the mix, committee back, you know, you're desperate for somebody to start. Let's say you're stuck with Ray Davis as your RB2 or something. You'd love to have Ollie Gordon. I mean, looking at the Buffalo side,

I see a lot of guys with carries. I think the Ray Davis stuff is weird. Of, weird and notable, I should say. And the fact that he is not playing? Yeah, it's like they, it's not a three running back system, which I think I was expecting me too I expected that Ray Davis and both anti-Johnson would get some opportunities

but so far it has James Cook James Cook got paid and James Cook has looked like the best running back in football He's looked like the best running back in football to me He slapped all of us in the face and called us nerds with our spreadsheets because we were like there's no way

He's not getting a touchdown every game He can't possibly keep doing this because it just it can't it doesn't happen And in last year the best running back in football. James Cook looks, he looks incredible, man. But I think it is worth noting going forward. Like the touchdowns, they're not prescriptive, but the utilization. The actual usage of James Cook is different than what we've seen even last year.

Last year, the percentage of his fantasy points that came via touchdowns was so high that if those went away, the way that they were using him, he didn't have the carries that you really need out of a running back one. But this season, it's his backfield almost entirely. The big performer in the receiving game, Dalton Kincaid, Kalil Shakir, both scored. Kincaid, five for 66. Keon Coleman, another slow game, four targets, three catches, 20 yards, did draw a pass interference penalty. What it's looking like for Buffalo is, I mean, we got two games, you know, where it's just the ball's going everywhere. Week one, we had some consolidation of targets and some optimism that Keon Coleman was going to be the guy.

And it looks like it's just going to be spread around because, like, Dalton Kincaid was, he's still not running a, he's not running as many snaps as you would hope for it. The ball just happened to find him this time. All right. It is Friday. Put Clan Friday. Oh, man, we are, we're reacting here. We're in studio. We peel back the curtain often.

and there have been some noises and sounds happening. I don't know if it'll come through on our audio because our deucers do a great job taking out that background noise, but it's coming through to us right now. There's a party on the roof. I don't know what's going on. Al Borland just said they're installing a new Lifetime Gym on the roof. I mean, it sounds, I don't know what sounds we're hearing.

We thought they were ghosts for a little while. Yeah, but then they... That was ghosts working out. Oh, for sure. And that was a pretty good... A nice set. A nice set, because they dropped the weights. Yeah, they did.

All right. We have Foot Clan Friday every week on Friday. We give away a $100 gift card to Fantasychamps.com. This week's winner. Macho Tiger 44 from the Foot Clan, macho tiger 44. The 44th in his name. Yes. All right. We got some news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance. All right, we got news yesterday. It was bad, but then not so bad, maybe. Then it got worse. Tyler Kraft, or sorry, Tucker Kraft, injured in practice for the Packers after a breakout. Don't worry, it's not looking like it's a season-ending injury.

That's what we were told. It's not season-ending, which implies it's a bad injury. Let's be careful. with our words, Mr. Rappaport. Be careful, Twitter with your words. I'm not talking to Twitter. I'm talking to Ian Rappaport. You know the power you have as, like, you're the guy. We all admit it. You're the go-to source for NFL news.

So just worded a little different. Like, hey, Tucker Kraft looks like he suffered an injury. Test on the way. Yeah, there's tests. And we're going to bring you news when we have it. It's, it didn't take him out. Hold on. let me argue it for let me tell people what happened well we're not there yet we're not there yet people are waiting tell me how rapaport was wrong huh was it looks like it's not season ending mike you got me okay you got me on your right now you can uh the quote that i have

this morning is that he's believed to be quote all good after undergoing tests on a knee injury he suffered no major catastrophic damage he is not practicing and is uncertain for this week would you pick up musgrave i thought about it actually actually put a claim in briefly. I took it back. There's other players that I'd probably take this. Like, Jetavian Sanders, I'd rather just roll the dice with him this week if I had to. Zach Ertz, I would do that with. Even Johnny Smith, like, just because Tucker Craft leaves doesn't mean you build a game plan around Luke Musgrave. If anything, it makes me feel a little more confident in golden having a breakout campaign

or something like that. The newest quote is... Oh, we got a new one? This is 903 from Shifty. Oh, this is sending us the other direction. Matt LaFleur told reporters that he did not think Kraft needed to go on injured reserve, but he's not sure if he'll play this Sunday. So what is happening? Let me change the report. Tucker Kraft got hurt on Friday and we don't know what's going on. Sounds like he could miss a couple of games, but not the season.

Right. Anywhere from one to 15 games. Right, right. No, not injured reserve probably, but he also could be. Josh Jacobs limited on Thursday with the ankle. Okay. A Thursday. Seems a little notable because they were the Thursday game last.

week. Right. Yeah, exactly. So that's, is that what you're going to say? Well, it's just a matchup is whenever a Thursday, like a Wednesday practice report, I just don't, I don't even care anymore. I don't pay attention. Every Wednesday you're talking about, or really every Thursday, we talk about all the guys that miss Wednesday and I, I don't start to care. When they, when they're limited on Thursday, you care a little bit more. Yeah. Okay. We've got, uh, Jaden Daniels not practicing again on Thursday and not seen it Friday on Friday. All right. Marcus, Markis. Marriota, who, I mean, honestly, if you're trying to stream a player, it could be worse. And what about for Terry?

We talked about it a little bit, but now that we have more confidence that it is going to be Mariotta, are you... I mean, Terry, you find another option, I think. I think so. It's tough. DJ Moore? Sure. That was the end of the list. Okay.

All right. No more questions. I don't do. I don't know if I'll play DJ more. She's been so disappointed. And better than Terry. Has he really been better than Terry? Oh, he has to. He has to. One both weeks. Terry is 3.7 and 7.3.

Okay. Ameca Abuka, back at practice on Friday. He hadn't practiced Wednesday, Thursday. They were the Monday night double header game. He had gotten banged up. I had read from beat reporters, they thought it was just a contusion. And there was never any alarm from the beat reporters. He's back at practice on Friday. I am assuming he's going to play football.

I would assume so as well. Brock Bowers limited on Thursday managing the knee. Tyler Warren returned to a limited practice dealing with a toe injury. You don't want to hear toe injuries right now. That's been the bad part of the year. It's the hotness. It's like the new posh injury. Yeah.

Everyone's getting the toe injury. Oh, man. So cool. Kyle Pitts added to the injury report with a toe injury. That's not a joke. Wait. That's real. No.

Yeah, limited with the toe. No. Who else? Is there another toe? No, no, no. I mean, I'm sure there will be. Matt McConkey returned to a full practice. Zach Charbonnet did not practice Wednesday or Thursday.

That's a foot, not a toe. Oh. But the toe is on the foot. Charbonnay not practice. Wait, you didn't practice Thursday either? That is of note. Yeah. Joanne Jennings did not practice Wednesday or Thursday.

They've been managing this and then he ends up playing most often. Brock Purdy remained limited. tow and expects to be a game time decision. By the way, they're still installing equipment. What is going on up there? Is that the roof? Al, can you confirm? It is definitely the roof. So it's directly above us something. Correct. Yes. I believe they are installing a trap door on the roof, which will in fact

open to our studio. Are they going to break through and land on us? There's a chance, but we will have it captured on video if it happens. All right. Okay. Jason seems the safest. There's like a pretty. big bar above him? Well, unless the bar comes down, man. Okay, all right, fair enough. Yeah, all right.

This is super fun. We need to hurry this up. I guess we've got to get this show on the road. Xavier Worthy Limited. We'll see if he's back out there. And that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers.

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All right. Yesterday we covered the Packers, Browns, Colts, Titans, Bengals, Vikings, Steelers, Patriots, Rams, Eagles, Jets, Buccaneers, Raiders, commanders. Eight more matchups on the docket today, starting with the one-and-one Atlanta Falcons, taking on the 0-2 Carolina Panthers. The Vegas line has Atlanta minus five and a half. Over under is 43 and a half. There's 19 implied points for Carolina. Carolina did beat the Falcons in a barn burner last year, 44, 38, and overtime.

Bryce Young was the quarterback two that week with five touchdowns. Hasn't quite looked that smooth for them so far this year. The numbers in last week's game, I'll bring it up again. Garbage numbers. They were completely shut out. It was 27 to 3 before the Cardinals flipped into pre-vent and let them pile up the dinks and the dunks. But I would say in the six quarters of real football this year

where the Panthers were playing against a normal defense, it's looked really disappointing. It has, and it's looked really disappointing, especially when targeting Xavier Leggett. He is one for seven with negative. Well, you are on a freaking negative two yards. Nobody cares about LaGette, and you are on a... Stop targeting.

You're on a mission to just destroy this man. That guy sucks, man. Calm down. He seems like a fun guy, though. Oh, he does seem like a fun guy. It's not his fault that got drafted in the first. Yes, no, it's not. But it is his fault that he's not good at playing wide receiver.

Stop. Stop. Let's talk about players, people actually care about playing. Chuba and Bijon. Both are in your lineup. For sure. Tyler Algier is a kind of desperation. an RB 3-4 type of guy.

If you need a spot, if somebody's hurt. Drake London, Target Share, we like it. We think Drake London will be fine. I do. I think that the passing volume, this is going to be, we had one game with the Falcons where they passed a lot, one game where they, you know,

had so much rushing over expectation. And then this week against the Panthers, I think they're just going to do whatever they want. Teddaro and McMillan has been very good through two bad offensive weeks for the Panthers. he looks the part. And Atlanta's probably without AJ Terrell.

Yes, yes. So I don't know how you see this game playing out here. Carolina is at home. Atlanta 5.5.5 point favorites, it's right on the edge for me. I'm thinking about it. Carolina, man, Atlanta, the defense, the defensive line, that's probably going to cause Carolina some problems. Yeah, I will say that the passing game could be pretty nerfed here for the Falcons.

this matchup. We've seen this a lot of, if you're right in what you've talked about with how the Panthers have looked in the six important quarters of their season so far when the defenses are playing legitimately, you don't have to do a lot to beat the Panthers so far this season. And we've seen that in the past. They're down to O. Lineman. Yeah, with the Panthers specifically over the last couple of years where even though you can throw on them, you don't need to, you don't end up throwing a lot by the end of the game. You run all over them. So I don't know, maybe nerve expectations a little bit with Drake London, the more that I think about this game.

We'll see what Jatavians the Anders can do. He's run a ton of slots or slot routes. Sorry. He's playing the slots. I would advise against that. The NFL will not like it very much. What, they frown on the slots? It was just a gambling joke.

Oh, okay. I mean, it's fine. Remember that vet joke yesterday? Oh, yeah. That one was good. Thank you. I stand by that one. With the toe injury, we'll see what happens.

He is playable, but I'm not super excited about him this week. The only saving grace is Carolina has struggled tremendously against the tight end so far. Last year and this year. So that would be your saving grace of Pitts is out there. And while the pie was small last week, Kyle Pitts was at 24% of the targets, with 19% in week one. Okay. All right. That's encouraging. Kyle Pitts is so difficult to talk about because he is now just a mean.

He is a joke. But it's like it has not started horrifically bad for him. Houston is 0 and 2 taking on the one-on-one Jacksonville Jaguars. The Vegas line here, Jacksonville minus 1.5, over under is 43 and a half. I have been actively trying to acquire Brian Thomas Jr. If somebody's bent out of shape, the target numbers are there. The production will be there.

Even last week, what's kind of funny about it is all the headlines were, obviously, they haven't been connecting the catch percentage, the alligator arms. He was still four for 49. Like, he was four for 49 in a game where he had a brutal drop that was a touchdown. He had 12 targets.

I'm less worried about Brian Thomas than I am, A.J. Brown? Yeah, I think I can agree with that. And so I tried, I failed to acquire him on the team. Same zies. I tried to trade A.J. Brown for it. Travis E.T.N. is my start of the week and we got word today that Bachel Tudin is wearing a red non-contact jersey on Wednesday and Thursday. So we'll see what happens today, but banged up a little bit. And E.T.N. has been great. So it's a good start. I think that gives more confidence for the E.T.N. start. But does it, you had mentioned on the start of the week that you would be fine starting tootin as well who looked great had juice does this make it to where you're worried maybe his snaps will be limited just from a game plan standpoint like

if he's if he is dealing with something that they might purposely give him fewer touches this game so don't start tooting if he's active it will depend on today and if he gets a full practice in yeah full practice i would play him i was i was going to but even limited today then i would pivot all right i'm looking at the consistency numbers for c j stroud oh don't do that five looking at medusa five point nine percent of his games over the last 17 that's probably one um 20 or more points one time yeah this is yet another reason why jaden higgins is not attractive to me or hutchinson or any of these or christian curt there's not enough like dalton shultz slow as he is he gets targets. And Nico Collins is the dude. I just, this is not a good passing offense. It's

actually a bad one. Yeah, it's a bad passing offense. Nico, I think, is a fantastic play matchup-wise, so you're not worried about that. No one's benching Nico right now. I will say that while Stroud doesn't run a lot, and so, you know, last year, Stroud threw 242 and a touchdown against this Jacksonville Jaguars, but finishes the quarterback 25. Now, earlier in the season, he was 345 and 2 finishes the quarterback 5 against Jacksonville So this is a this is probably his last good game That was his last game over 20 yeah Yeah that was week four of last year

Last game over 20 points But it was this match Nick Chob If he scores you'll be happy He scored two weeks in a row right He is the primary guy Like it's a volume 4 play He did not score in week 1 I lied 13 for 60 in week 1 4.6 to carry didn't score

scored last week. But it's not... In this economy, you could do worse. You could do worse. But that probably ends it. Where are you with Britain Strange? Nine targets in two weeks. It's okay.

He's a, you know, break glass in case of emergency type of tight end. If you had craft and you want to pivot, that's the level. That's like the, you have an injury. Strange or Musgrave. Oh, I play Strange. Yeah, I'm on the strange side. Are we going to get a Travis Hunter breakout game at some point? We haven't had an explosive play yet.

I think we will because of exactly that we'll have the explosive play. But in the meantime, are you starting him while you wait for it? Or are you going to wait for it to hit and then put him in there? Eight targets, week one, six targets this last week. That's good enough, but they're short. He's not in my lineup. They're short, not valuable targets currently. You know, he's six for 33 in week one, three for 22 in week two.

Not in my lineup. Yeah. I'm trying not to play him. I play Matthew Golden over. Really? Yeah. I don't mind that gold. The one play hits.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm hoping it's more than one play this week for Golden. Yeah, it's very hard right now to run on. No, Tucker Kraft. Cleveland, and they need golden. Yeah, they do. I think it'll be an okay week for Golden. But, uh, all right, we'll take a break.

We'll come back with the Broncos Chargers. divisional matchup. Vegas says Los Angeles is two and a half point home favorites. Over Under is now 46 and a half. That's gone up a little bit. Whoever wins will be first in the division. So it should be a fun one. This is an exciting game. In 46.5, we're getting up there.

And this is really the Chargers home opener. I know their home opener was in Brazil, but, you know, wink. So this is the first game that they will be playing. Breaking News. It's official. Marcus Marietta is starting for the commanders. No more, no Jaden Daniels this week.

It's also official. Marcus Marietta will be guiding my chopped league this week. Wait, oh wait, was Jaden your quarterback? He was. Oh, so you made the necessary arrangements? I did. This is the second league that I've seen you. They got to have mercy on my soul.

This is the second league I've seen you make, like Jake Browning starting in one of your leagues probably, or you picked them up and then. Marcus Mariotta. And I've got Mac Jones in one of them. Let's just, hey, who needs starters when you got backups? Sleeper and or commanders, whoever is at fault, please move him to out. It just broke.

Yeah, okay, but do it immediately. All right. So, Jason, you've been the Justin Herbert, you know, you made him the start of the week. You've been talking about for weeks. Yeah, I mean. This train, the hype train is going. You are the conductor. The pass rate over expectation for the chargers.

A lot of the reason you like Hamper. coming into the season was because the Giro offense with Harbaugh, they want to run the ball, but it appears that what they really want to do is they want to put their best player in charge. And with these weapons, when you've got Keenan Allen and Ladd McConkey, we've talked about it, they're just so perfect for Herbert and you have to focus on those guys. And then you've got a huge over the top. It's very difficult to stop that passing attack. So they're going to put the ball in the hands of Justin Hurd,

Herbert. And I think they're going to have a lot of success with that. So, so far this year, they have not given up a lot of fancy points to the quarterback or wide receiver position. Denver hasn't. But they played, you know, Cam Ward in week one. You like Herbert this week at home. He is, both of these teams are well above the pass rate over expectationally, number one and number seven in the league. Bo Nix, the problem this year has been pressure. He has tried to look really cool outside the pocket, slinging it around.

He's only four for 11 on those throws for 21 yards and two picks. Yeah, he is being protected. And when he has a clean pocket, he is succeeding. But when he is getting pressured, it is a very negative play.

Okay, we have Amari and Hampton. What in the world do people do with Amari and Hampton right now? And talk about both of these backfields because J.K. Dobbins R.J. Harvey, question marks. Dobbins has scored a couple times in a row. And Amarion Hampton and Najee Harris. The opportunities were there for Harris,

and they're going to probably rise. And Harris looked okay. Yeah, Harris looked fine. He looked like how he's always looked. A solid NFL running back. I mean, we have, you know, mocked that he's... With two eyes. Yeah?

Both eyes open. So you got JK2 leg and you got, no, I'm not going to go there. I would, you know, honestly, Dobbins looks like someone that you can't not start right now. He's played. I agree with that. He's played very well and his utilization is really what you're going for the most. You're talking about he's playing half the snaps, but his workload, 73% of the running back rushing attempts in

week one, 70% in week two, 33% of the running back targets. So he's just involved enough where you're going to take that opportunity at the running back position. What about Harvey in a game where they're projected to, you know, play from behind. Nope, not yet. When Badey is still getting a bunch of targets and everything, Harvey has to completely take over that role. And I think he will take that over. I think so, too.

But you've got to stash Harvey on your bench right now and get excited for the future. It is not now. You'd play Dobbins over Hampton? I think I would. Are you guys, how out on Hampton are you right now? I'm not out on Hampton by any means. It wasn't working very well for him.

He fumbled. Noggi looked okay. They kind of had it even split. Oh, that's true. Justin Herbert fumbled Jason. When that happened, I really quickly wanted to not blame Hampton because of how fast. Yeah, the offensive line. It was like it was bang, bang.

It was like when the handoff happened. So they made the change. I don't know if we talked about it on the show. They made the change for, it wasn't a Hampton. Those always get credited to the quarterback even when it's not. not like it was not Herbert's fault but the the fumble statistically goes to Herbert because they never made the exchange right correct keen and Allen lad McConkey quentin johnston put them all in your lineup man I was going to ask are you playing huge I don't know how you don't play those three guys

right now well I would I would think that johnston will get the the certan treatment of any of these guys I mean it's he had three catches last week but you know he's over 70 yards two in a Ross, scored three times. You don't have to force him in if you have a better player, but I mean, are you playing Quentin Johnston or, I mean, or A.J. Brown, Jason. No, no, that one's easy. I was trying to go lower down, like Debo with Mariotta

or Quentin Johnston. You probably still go on Debo? I think I'd play. Metcalf? I'd play Metcalf. Those are the couple of the bigger questions. You'd play Q's over Debo? I would

I think I would be on the Debo side I'm a little lower manufacturer stuff for Debo I'm a little lower on on Q's still certainly a like a normal flex play in most leagues but Keenan over him

I would play Keenan and Ladd over him okay are we done with Evan Ingraham for right now yep Troy Franklin eight for 89 and a touchdown are you chasing are you chasing or are we expecting Cortland Sutton to kind of, you know, the target share go back his direction after those first two weeks. It will go back to Sutton eventually. You don't pay a guy that amount of money

and not get something going. So I think both are true of like I'm willing to chase what's going on with Franklin. The expectation kind of going in was that you'd see, you know, Sutton with the more consistency and the consistent targets and then Marvin Mims, Troy Franklin, Pat Bryant, I think that's still how I view it. Yeah, okay. I still view it where Cortland Sutton is the one, and we're not 100% sure Franklin will establish that too. It looks like it so far.

Two weeks in, it's looking great, and I've obviously loved the talent of Troy Franklin for a while. They've got the collegiate connection, and things are going well. And Bo Nix likes him. Troy Franklin is a player I think you can throw in in a flex. I would play Quentin Johnson over. 83% snaps last week was the big number. Yeah.

And Mims is down in the 30s and 40s where he's. lives is most comfortable. New Orleans at O and two, the Seahawks in Seattle, they're one-in-one and they are seven and a half point home favorites. Love the defense in this one. Saints only have a 17-point implied point total. The over-runner is just 41.5. So you know, this one seems on the surface like a blowout to me. Spencer Rattler has to leave home, go on the road, go to Seattle, play a tough defense. You know, Kenneth Walker looked really, really good last week. Sam Darnold, JSN, they have the connection going,

but then Cooper Cup got involved in a pretty big way in week two. Like for those that came out and week one with Sam Darno didn't look great for Cooper Cup and it kind of bounced back. Yeah, I agree. I think you bring up an interesting point as well with the Spencer Rattler. This will be his first road game. This is a very loud stadium to play in. The crowd will be a, you know, full volume.

And Rattler has looked better than Tyler Shuck. Sure, yes, apparently than Tyler Schock, but better than I expected him to look. Still, he has not looked great, but we haven't, you know, he's been playing at home, comfy, you know, quiet environment. One of the things that you like, one of those don'ts that you want to play in. Yes. Alvin Camara, yeah, play him. Chris Olavay, lots of targets.

I mean, Spencer Rattler, third most total past attempts in the NFL so far and has not thrown an interception. Pays to play. Base of play is a really big deal. Rashid Shaheed was 4-for-52 in a touchdown. Alave and Shaheed are kind of doing the same stuff. I mean, Elave's got a lot of targets. They're lower- I would chase the targets over what Shahid did last week.

Yeah, I think they're lower down for me. On the road, there should be a little bit of rain in this game as well. A little bit rain? A little bit rain. You look at the Seahawks so far, you know, only through, two games. It's been the tight end position that's affected them. Joanne Johnson should be good here.

Olave, man. He's turned 13 targets and 10 targets into eight points and eight points. Yeah. 54 yards a week. Two weeks in he's the wide receiver 44, so he's the wide receiver 36. Juan Johnson's my start of the week at the tight end position

and you should be able to count on him in this one. Right now the Seahawks giving up the most points to tight ends through two weeks. So he is a he's a must start. Delicious. He's a must start. And I think everything else is pretty simple there. We are waiting to get a couple secondary members for the Seahawks back onto the field. Devon Witherspoon being one of them, and that will help that defense out.

Is Ken Walker going to be like the R.B.1 this week? He might be. I've been. That's another place I'm failing in the trade market. I've been trying to pick. I mean, I would never tell Mike. Right. Yeah.

Mike earmuffs. You can't tell me on the teams I got him. I've been trying to get Ken Walker, Jay. Wow. Yeah. He's because he's so good. It's because he's so good. Sometimes he's so good.

He's so good sometimes. Now, he's a much better runner. I mean, he's just so explosive and aggressive, and it should be good this week. Dallas, one-and-one, taking on the Chicago Bears who are sitting at O and 2, crying into their hands. Again.

I don't know if it gets easier for Bears fans to win the off-season, and then lose the regular season? I don't think so. We're here on this show. Just telling you the facts. It's the same old, same old for the Bears right now. I would love it to not be the way.

I'm focusing on the cool stuff like Roma Dunezay, being a really great viable fantasy option. That's cool. Yeah. That's really... It is. Unfortunately, I don't get to say that about Colson Loveland or Luther Burden. Or DJ Moore.

DJ Moore, I had the... I mean, he may break out and have a great game, who knows. But I was so afraid of him all offseason, just the way that I don't need more stories of how he's taking handoffs. Like, that does not excite me for DJ more that you have to come up with new creative ways to use them, not as a wide receiver. But, you know, in this one, Dallas is, Dallas is favored by one and a half going into Chicago. The overrunner is 50 and a half. It did open with Chicago as the favorites. So it's balanced back and forth.

And the people have spoken. The people have, yeah, I mean, who wins the game then? Who's going to win the ballgame? It's basically a toss-up. I think the Cowboys win. The Bears' strength has been their past defense. And so far this year, that is their weakness. They are very banged up as well.

Jalen Johnson, come back. Jalen Johnson did not participate in Wednesday's practice, did not participate in Thursday's practice. His groin is not ready. So this is great news if you've got, you know, C.D. Lamb, if you want to start DAC, I love when great defensive players are out. I mean, don't we all?

Yeah. On this show, we do. You also like it if Xavier Leggett was out. That's also another thing that you would like. He's a great defensive player. For the other team. Dallas is easy because everybody is in. So, Dak, Giovante, Encedian Pickens, and Ferguson.

So they are a very easy team. Yeah. Yeah, it should be all right. I don't know if Chicago can stop them. What's the overrunner? 50 and a half? Yeah, it's juicy. I mean, there's reasons to like both sides.

It's not like Dallas's defense has been doing anything. No, no, no. No, I like the, I like Rome a lot. Swift? I mean, he has been limited with a quad injury. He'll play. He. What do you think his fantasy rank is through two weeks?

Man, I have no clue. I'm going to guess it's where he lives, which is like running back 20. it is 23 okay yeah i mean he's no one can do less with more more than dandre swift the like in in a world of stashing players a monongue guy is not doing anything right now he did get more opportunities 10 of them yeah so i mean he went from 13% of snaps in one opportunity to 41% in 10 opportunities it i i feel like it's only a matter of time before Ben Johnson

with DeAndre Swift's like, okay, I've had enough. I don't care how fast you are. I'm going to somebody else. Yeah, the most recent reports is that Jalen Johnson might be done and might be having... Oh, no. Might be having season ending... Whoa, no. Season ending groin surgery. Yeah.

I don't know what the quote is on season ending groin surgery, but that must be a real... A lot more exclamation points. That's devastating for the defense. He's so good. It's worth saying. So Roma Dunezay looks like he's having his second year breakout that was the hope. He looked awesome this past week.

The worst their defense is, the better it is for their offense for the passing game, for Romadunze's breakout to be successful. If the bears are able to shut guys down and slow the game down and the other team has to run, which runs the clock out more, fantasy points evaporate. Rome is the wide receiver 4th or two weeks. Arizona, 2 and 0. The Cardinals, undefeated, so good at football. They go to San Francisco to take on the equally great San Francisco 49ers who were two and

out. Vegas line San Francisco minus three at home over under 45 and a half. San Francisco heavier favorites now than they were to start the week, probably do. The people have spoken. Well, that's due to, um, Hey, they're telling the truth. That's due to Brock Purdy may be playing. That's what that is.

That's what that is. I know you would like it to believe that everybody just like us knows the Arizona sucks at two and oh. Yeah. we all know who won both games last year falcon who won the games i mean you guys were so good who won them yeah the injured niners

no no no the interniners actually lost them both oh oh no they lost them both yeah yeah who won the games the injured niners incorrect lost the game what what happens when the microphone turns on i don't know what happened i think the brain do we want to have a conversation with you right now yeah no i was distracted sorry made a trade you made a trade yeah traded away henderson and two for Josh Jacobs. In one league?

It was my main league. That is a great deal. Henderson and Tutton for Jacobs? Yeah. Oh, man. That's a great trade for you. That's a stupid league. Yeah, can I get in?

Good trade. Bad talking. Also, we're working. Yeah. Do some work. What are you doing? Only Jason gets to do trades in the middle of shows. Yeah, right.

Own the company, though. You get to work. All right. Yeah, Arizona. on the one in both last year, the defense with Robert Sala back there, looking pretty good through two weeks. Both these teams got to play the Saints already. Kyla Murray, Marvin Harrison, Mike. Are we? I'm not playing Kyler. Marv is not a must play this week.

He was 5 for 71 in a touchdown in week one. Yay, that's great. Week two, two, four, 27. Yeah, the way that they are using him, at least, you know, in week two, that will be so, it'll be missed more than it hits for fantasy football. Arizona did. I mean, if I want to find the narrative street of why maybe don't worry about last week too much. Arizona was up 27 to 3. They had a defensive score. They had a short field on another turnover.

Maybe, I mean, you didn't really have an offense trying to do anything functionally in the second half of that game other than not lose. But you could have had an offense that went and laid it on. Yeah, look at the Detroit lines last week. or the Baltimore Ravens last week. They could have pulled their starters at halftime, but they're like, nope, we are going to keep our foot on the pedal. We're going to keep sharpening these plays. We're going to sharpen our offense.

We're not going to sit in a turtle. I think they tried. I don't think they are good enough. They're a real dull knife. James Connor, I still think you start him. He hasn't been very efficient to start the year. Yeah, look at those totals at the running game. Yeah, I mean, look at the rushing yardage for him.

39 yards, 34 yards, but he had a touchdown in both weeks, double-digit fantasy points both weeks. And so far, we're still very early in the season to know how this version of the San Francisco 49ers defense will be, but they've been very good against the pass. You're not worried that those touchdowns masking a little Connor Benson committee situation? I'm concerned about Connor in this matchup. Yeah, I am too. Christian McCaffrey is healthy, so you play him.

Correct. And he is doing work so far. Ricky Pearsall's mic start of the week. I think people need to hear that. Ricky Pearsall, kind of a little disappointing last week. You know, wide receiver 13 in week one. We were happy to see it. Which Joan Jennings did not practice Wednesday or Thursday with an ankle on shoulder,

which by his standards means that he will play on Sunday and he will dominate. Seems that way. any concern for 49ers regardless of like let's say it's mac jones or purdy are you playing them the i mean pierceol is not a must start for me okay if it's mac jones like if i had to choose jennings or piercall i would choose jennings oh okay but i think it's up for debate that's just the way i would go i mean the 10 targets last week um i like that but i don't know where you go, Jay. Yeah, I look like a man who didn't want me to ask you.

I didn't want you to ask that question. I would probably go Ricky Pearsall. I would be more confident in Pearsall if it's Brock playing. But that's just, you know, Jennings, he looked good last week, but he's very banged up. And I don't think that he is definitely the one for this team. Either one could be the better guy each week. Well, you should play Tray McBride. Yes.

And feel confident doing that. a break we'll hit sunday night football monday night football and a renovated improved fantasy face off all right we've got a pair of winless teams going into sunday night football this game dude i cannot wait the chiefs are oh and two and they go to the new york football giants home stadium they go on the road leave arrowhead The great state of New York, of course. Of course.

The Giants are 0 and 2. The defense will see what they can do against Kansas City, who is still depleted. Kansas City six-point road favorites over under is 45 and a half. This is the Giants home opener as well. Get juiced, Giants. Are you? I'm rooting. We all just are, look, the Kansas State Chiefs is, they've won a lot.

They have won a lot. So if they start 0 and 3, the rest of the world is going to feel pretty good about it. I think they, I think they could. Could lose? Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, no. Oh, no, is the fisher opened?

Are you in the other dimension? No, no, not as strong enough. Okay. I do think that this game's going to be. What was that? I don't know. I don't, I heard it. That sounded like it came from Andy.

Was it on the roof? Here's the real question. Let me transition from you trying to get me, debate me into an almost subset. Literally, who do you start on the Chiefs? That's a real question right now, because Xavier Worthy might not play in this game, and you could make the argument you would start him right away if he plays. Hollywood Brown's been terrible. He was terrible last week.

He was awesome in week one. Okay. Ten for 99 is pretty delightful. Terrible is not the right word, but unreliable would be a good word. Isaiah Pacheco, terrible. Cream Hunt, terrible. Travis Kelsey. Mediocre.

Juju, Invisible. Tyquan Thornton, obviously the only scores when I give him permission. I think it's back to just how I regularly feel about the Chiefs, which, like, Mahomes is playable. The Giants' defense has been atrocious. And last week was the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles are going to hurt everyone's numbers this year. So Hollywood Brown has a flex type of a wide receiver.

I think he's still in play. and Kelsey is top 12-ish. And we don't know if Worthy's going to play, but if Worthy plays, I think I start him right away. They really, really need him. Yeah, I was starting him right away. I'm terrified of that. Here's the deal.

The Giants played Dallas and their lack of a defense last week. There were tons of performances that made people very excited. Cam Scataboo had a big game. The snaps went up. Very productive. Wondale Robinson, 142 yards received. leaving. Malik neighbors. Right now it looks like, I mean, that's the guy that you're starting no matter what. How do you feel about chasing these against the defense that you know like

it's tough? The chiefs are going to be a dominant run d in this game. They always are. I love Cam Scadaboo. I loved him coming out of college. I loved him week one. I've drafted him wherever I could. He went from 12 snaps to 52% of snaps. I think he will take over this backfield and be involved in the passing game. This is not the matchup. I'm not chasing last week's touchdown reception against the Kansas City Chiefs. Do you see him in pass protection? Oh, he's a dog! He was blowing people up.

He's just, I mean... He is searching, and I say this, recognizing that they shouldn't be, he is desperate for a concussion. He wants nothing more than to scramble his brain on another man's brain. He, every single play, it doesn't matter if he's got the ball or not. He's a caveman. He is running into anything. He does seem to have a thicker skull.

Oh, for sure. And is that good? That's tremendous for him. For concussions, I would think so, right? Yeah, and for inflicting them. I mean, he is, he is a monstrosity. He is the Marshawn Lynch of this generation where he's just, he wants to hit someone over and over and over and over. He just wants to hit someone.

Isn't he wearing the same number as, um... He's wearing 4-4. Juice? Yeah, he is. I was thinking, uh, now his name is escaping me. Brown's, uh... Peyton Hillis. Peyton Hillis.

Yeah, I said Paris Hillis. Peyton Hillis. He was number 40. Oh, he was 40. Okay. They're both just white. That's why I said that. All right. Russell Wilson completed a million passes last week. You know, Malik Neighbors, if you're a fan of his, you're happy to see that many, that much success. Russell Wilson with the deep passes, giving the opportunity to Malik Neighbors.

You're playing him. Are you chasing Wondale? If I'm in a full PPR league, I expect them to be down and throwing to Wondale, I, I will be suspect that he'll get deeper targets like he did last week. That was awesome. He'll probably end up doing what he always does, which is get a lot of targets near the line of scrimmage, not a bunch of yards. So if you're in a full PPR, you can put them in there. Very excited about this one. Monday night football, Detroit one and one. Baltimore one-on-one. One of these two like Super Bowl contenders is going to drop to one and two in this one. Baltimore four and a half point home favorites. Over under is 53 and a half. Open at 51

and a half. That is already humongously high. No, see, this one I can do. Oh, baby. Andy's almost upset of the week. Four and a half points. Baltimore? Yeah, I don't know about that. This is going to be a fun one.

This is going to be a start your engines for the fantasy football community. Lamar, Henry, Flowers, who's been, he may, he may be in the midst of a 30, year leap right now. The way they're using him. There's a world where it's not Andrews and likely anymore.

Like the tight-in position isn't as heavily utilized. Rashad Bayman's been invisible. I mean, DeAndre Hopkins has his weekly touchdown attempt. It's Zay Flowers and then the guys that no one would ever consider starting. Yeah, that's how it feels. I mean, Zayflowers through two weeks, 20 targets.

Yeah, I mean, that's great. Wide receiver 5. I am really curious how much that will change when Isaiah likely is back on the field. because Mark Andrews seems like he is being used in a different way. He's no longer, he's obviously not the primary receiving target for this team. He's on the field still. He's used around the goal line and he's a great blocker.

So he's an important asset to the team. But for fantasy purposes, for the receiving work, that's not his game. But I do think that they have a plan to get Isaiah likely very involved in the receiving game once he's back. So I'm just curious how that'll affect flowers. I already had an almost upset this week, Kyle. did. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Now I've got two. You do. But now you get two points if you're right. Okay. Or zero if you're both. Play Henry and Gibbs. Play almond raw and flowers. Jameson Williams. Four targets, two for 108 and a touchdown. He'll do it again. He'll get in the end zone again this week. Sam LaPorteur. Not sure what to do with Sam LaPorteur right now.

I mean, this is the type of matchup where... It seems like you should feel like you've got to play. A hundred percent. I mean... You got a good week one. There's not a lot of tight ends out there that you are just absolutely needing to start. So if you've got Sam Leporta, he's in your lineup, especially in a game with 53 and a half. You picked up any of the week one, tight end bros. You picked up Juan Johnson. I would play Leporta over Jawan Johnson.

Oh, really? Okay. I would. Jared Goss, my start of the week, was the number one quarterback last week, and I loved that over, under. I think it's going to be good. Now I think they're going to win. So do you have any worry of, like, last week the Lions laid it on the band. But the Bears didn't have, you know, a lot of their DBs.

They had some injuries. The Bears haven't looked good so far. But week one, you actually saw this great Lions offense going up against a very difficult Packers defense. And the Packers defense won. They just, they just won. They said, we are better than your great offense. And, you know, the Ravens did not shut down the bills.

No, I do think that the Ravens. They gave up 41 points. And then last week was Flacco and the Cleveland Browns. I'm in TBD. Yeah. TBD, I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be a lot of points on Monday night. I'm hoping for it.

I think all of us fans would like to see that. Games have been bet up on the over-under. It was 51.5. Now it's up at 53 and a half. So we'll see. The last time these two teams played, Detroit got spanked. That was 2023.

So I think they got a chip on their shoulder for this one. I think you saw it last week. I think that week one was, this is a team that takes a lot of pride in being that. offensive machine and being competitive in those games, and they weren't competitive in that one. And it showed last week when they came out and smashed. Any other spot start decisions to be made here?

No, it's pretty easy, but Mr. Campbell, Isaac Tesla needs more than 29% of the snaps. Yeah. I mean, he's the one-handed bandit. He is. I mean, he is really good. He's very fun to watch. I wonder if he would drop stuff if he tried to use two hands. No.

You'd probably just crush the ball You'd think you'd be all right? Yeah, it would be like Would that be a flag? If you blow the ball? No, that's seven points. Oh, okay. Use two hands.

That's not a delay a game? They get you, if you spike the ball. If it's incidental, it's not. If you're just too strong, but if you do it on purpose, yeah, it is. All right, away we go. Presented by prize picks. All right, we have heard you out there.

We are going to, we're going to mix it up a little bit now in the fantasy face-off. Previous two weeks, we have been picking one more or less each with the loser spinning the wheel of shame, which we are going to handle today. Because last week I had Jackson, Smith, and Jigba more than 61.5 receiving yards. on prize picks. He finished 8 for 103. Jason had Zach Charbonnet with 12 and a half yard longest rush, and he did not do that.

He didn't even get all of his rushes there. And then Mike went Russell Wilson. Don't worry about it. Whoops! Less than 270 passing yards, but he had a lot more. Just a few. So before we reveal this week's picks,

we're going to let Mike spin the wheel. Will of shame All right Spin the wheel This is delightful You get to make

The wheel makes his debut for 2025 Probably like waterboarding It probably should be So you'll just accept this Oh yeah Oh groundhog day Oh yeah It should be pretty simple

It's a real easy It's a real easy one Mike if you want to just Looks like you're a groundhog Bro Are we sure this as a groundhog I don't know I mean It is now.

The teeth look like that of a beaver. A beaver. Okay. Well, you're a groundhog beaver. It's really not important, Mike. You're wearing it. That's what's important right there. Does it fit on your noggin?

Yeah. That was the worry. Hey, how are you doing? Is it going to be, uh, we got more winter? He's trying to decide whether he uses the mouth hole for seeing or for talking. It's going to be multi-purpose. I think Papa Josh is really enjoying this. I can hear him back there.

All right, here's what we're doing. You look cute, though. Oh, thank you. Yeah. It's a good look. You look, yeah, that's the word. Here's what we're doing now. How do people do this?

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. What do you mean? How do people do this is not something people usually do? This is a mask sold to be worn. Yeah. It's impossible. Yeah, but manufactured at a low cost, Mike.

We have a renovation to this segment now. We're going to be picking a quarterback running back wide receiver. and tight-end every week, each of us. We're each building our own lineup to play on the projections that we like the most. And I've had so much fun this year with this. Yeah. So we're going to expand and compete. It's so hot in here.

Somebody's getting the wheel every week. Hopefully, Mike. All right. We're starting at the quarterback position. I am taking that Detroit game. Lamar Jackson more than 222.2.5 passing yards. That's fun, and I like it. I'm going to take one that is not fun.

I'm going to look at Jalen Hertz and his passing attempts. His projection is 27 and a half passing attempts. I'm going less than that. He had 23 passing attempts week one, 22, and week two, and I think this is going to be a defensive battle. Mike, what do you got there? Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you.

Sounds like you're up on the roof having a party. I have C.J. Stroud more than half a passing touchdown. Okay. Well, that seems like a pretty easy one. You, I guess what I got. All right. Cool. All right. Running back, I'm going Ken Walker more than 54.5 rushing yards. Ken Walker more than, yeah, that's, man. Yeah, that feels pretty good one.

Now. I, too, am going to walk. My running back is going to be Kairn Williams in that same Eagles game that I expect to be defensive. Again, I'm going less than his projection of 63 and a half rushing yards. He's splitting a little bit of work, and it's a very tough run defense. I'm going with my dude, Jalen Warren, my running back start of the week I got. You're starting to sound like an actual groundhog. The projection is at 18.5 receiving yards. I am taking them more. Okay. For Jalen Warren, more than 18 and a half receiving yards.

A wide receiver, I'm going Keenan Allen more than five, sorry, more than 4.5 receptions. Okay. In the matchup against Denver. I'm going to take this dude. Ooh. Very nice. I'm taking more than 38 and a half receiving yards for Troy Franklin. Yeah, that's a good one. I have Stefan Diggs, his projection. two and a half receptions.

And I said, he will do more than that. Okay, not bad. That's a good one. That's a good find. And then at tight in this week, I'm going to go Tyler Warren more than 44.5 receiving yards. He's been over 70 in both of his starts so far. I want to take Tyler Warren over 44 and a half. Yeah, I'm going to take your start of the week, Joanne Johnson, 38.5 receiving yards.

Feels like a number that he will. You got 38 and a half? 38 and a half, yeah. What are you working on over there, loser? 40 and a half. Oh, man. I hope he gets 39. Oh, I hope. Stop at 39, Joanne. How do you feel in there, Mike?

Slightly like I'm about to lose consciousness. Okay, all right. Well, we'll wrap it up. There's a lot of carbon dioxide in here. Well, it doesn't look like it's properly ventilated at all. It's not. We have a quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight-in competition for the week. So

we'll see who loses and spins the wheel next week. That was Fantasy Faceoff presented by Prize Picks. out max discounts on the app now like Patrick Mahomes at more than 0.5 passing yards for the September 21st game. Use the code footballers and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play $5. That'll do it. We'll get Mike breathing oxygen again. We'll close this show down. Please join Mike on Sunday live over on YouTube. Make sure you head over there, click the bell. You'll be notified when he's live on Sunday morning. Talk to you then.

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