Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 3 Studs & Duds + Broken Offenses - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/22

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 22, 2025. Fantasy football studs, duds, and reactions from Week 3! Find out which players are worth hitting the panic alarm over! Plus, injury updates, and early advice for fantasy football managers entering Week 4. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(03:25) Monday Punday(07:30) NFL News(14:00) QB Studs (17:40) RB Studs(24:30) WR Studs(37:15) TE Studs(39:00) Fantasy Duds(39:05) QB Duds(44:50) RB Duds(55:30) WR Duds(01:04:30) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footmullers Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Monday, September 22nd, the fantasy footballers podcast. Thank you for joining us. Week three, nearly in the books. We've got a very fun Monday night football game still,

but we have many games and many injuries to react to. We had been spared. catastrophe in week one got a little bit more injured in week two got real real injured in week three week three got us and you know we're talking season deletion stuff

so we'll talk about that give you our reactions we'll get through the NFL news we got to cover studs and duds on today's show Mike in a perfect I'm very matched blue today. Yeah, as you say like a teal? Is that teal? I think

that's teal. It's aqua. I don't know what's going on today. Very Hypermatch. I am. I'm a little disappointed that your pants are gray. Yep, me too. I'll work on it. Yeah. You could have gone. Bring me some teal paints. You could have looked like Clayas Campbell in the all reds yesterday. Giant beast of a man. We were watching the end of that Cardinal 49er catastrophe of

a game. Oh man, that was such a bad game. Oh. Here's, I mean, we knew, we knew and predicted what was going to happen like from the safety. Here's what was funny for me. So I had to leave my, my children were in a show where at the end of the, the afternoon games. Yep. And I leave right before the end. So I'm trying to track it on my phone. I sit down. The show is about to start. And I see, I'm like, oh, the carls are clearly going to lose. and then I see they get a safety on Mac Jones with like two minutes left. We're going to get the ball. We have the lead.

I was like, oh my gosh, we're going to win. I can't believe that. And then the show starts. And that was all I knew. And then afterwards, the show is over. And I'm like, of course we lost. I don't know how, but of course we lost. It was funny because when the Cardinals got the safety, that's when I knew we'd lose.

Correct. Because if the game had not, if they had not scored there, they're aggressive on offense to go win the game. But because they got two points, which is not enough to surpass a field goal on the 49ers side, I knew the Cardinals would go blobfish conservative and waste their drive and give the ball back to the 49ers who would easily get a field goal. Like it was so predictable. And they... People are like, what is happening right now?

I know. We've said the Cardinals suck, so there's no way to hurt us. All right. We have Monday-Punday submissions from the Foot Clan to react to the weekend, so we better get into those right now. Hmm. Well, we had some good, Jason. I want to take this one. Go for it. Cam Sketa-Boom Shagalaka. Oh, baby.

Quinton Studkins. Yes, and Yay J. Brown. Hey, there he was. Oh, marry me, Hampton. How about Caleb Billions? Uh, Cortland Strutton. Oh, yeah, it was. Oh, yeah. Michael Jordan Mason. Yes. Yeah. Rome. Booms, eh? Keywin Allen Oh, the Winnasota Vikings defense.

Defense was the play of the week. How about Trace Tucker? Oh, boy. Superstar. All right, we had some bad this week like Chase Frown or Waste Brown. Saquan Barthley. Come on, Dre Stevenson. Yes, or we got a lot of these

Bleak neighbors. Malik Nevers? Or Malik Wavers? Not that far, not that far. All right. The Silence of the Lamb Moment of silence Wack Prescott

Not his fault How about Why don't they play Vion Henderson Oh man Sad McConkey My personal favorite Ashton Janky Oh man

Jake frowning And Kyle Pitstains And this one Mitsubishi Marve Yes Marvin and Bears Miaovin Harrison Jr I was told

It was a Maserati, and we didn't get a Maserati on Sunday, and we haven't gotten a Maserati for two seasons. I don't want no cats. I'd go to like Miata. Yeah. Miata, Marv. Yeah. I mean, look, you, we could spend the entire show hating the Cardinals. Because it's so painful.

It's a, and Marvin Harrison's just, I mean, he's the biggest disappointment in a long time. Because when he does get opportunity, he doesn't take it. advantage of it. Those that didn't watch the game, he had a brutal drop, and that one's the one you're going to. Another brutal, that's the one you're going to see is this brutal, wide open, probably 75-yard touchdown, no one around him, and the slow motion of him trying to catch the football goes through. Not running across the field, he kind of comes to his stop. He turns, and it goes through his hands, hits him in the chest, and then whoops, boink. Which, okay, that's terrible. But then later, later on, he got bailed out because they called a pass interference, but he had

another chance to go up and make a meaningful play. We call these first round pick plays. Yeah. Like if you're a seven. I just call him NFL player place. Yeah. You don't have to be a first round pick. There was also, I think the thing that grinded my gears. Yeah. The most, you pointed out live, there was a play where Marv's coming across and Kyler ends up scrambling towards his side and just runs. And Marf just stops. He literally looks dissing. He just stops on the route. He doesn't go try to block the guy that he probably could have got to to give Kyler an extra yard or two. He just, he just stands there. We talked about this. Mike and I did. Some of the, some of the best receivers in football, what they do is when the play starts to

break down, they work back to the quarterback. They get themselves. I mean, Tyreek Hill did this when Toos running out of the pocket on Thursday. We saw Quentin Johnston do this yesterday. Every time that Herbert got out of the pocket. Keenan does it all the time. Yeah, Keenan Allen. Good wide receivers do it. Yes, because they know they can find space when a play breaks down. Travis Kelsey, for generations, has done this when they get outside the bucket. But Marvin Harrison takes a break.

So we're not. We're not happy. Some milk break. A nice saucer. A nice saucer of warm milk. So angry. For Melvin Harrison, Jr. Can you imagine if I had made him on my guy?

Oh, a meal guy. And bought into the freaking. I'll tell you what, man. Oh, we need a yearly meow guy. Yes, we need a meow board. Everybody picks a meow guy. Oh, man. No dog in them.

Gracious. All right. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. I don't know if anybody can be prouder than their own video editing work that Jason did yesterday. Oh, I'm so proud. But he took his shots at Marvin Harrison Jr. on Twitter.

I felt really bad, too, because he's still a guy. Yeah. But at the same time, sometimes you need to... Carthartically. Yeah, you need to get things out with jokes. What's the last time you did video editing work, Jay? Oh, man, it's been a minute. I was like, can I do this in an eye movie?

I don't know. You're trying to figure it out? Play it around, but yeah, I think I'm up to 1.3 million views right now. Nice. Amazing special effects work. We have James Connor. Here we go. Season ending ankle injury to James Connor.

this is super unfortunate. Connor's been kind of the heartbeat of the Cardinals for a long time. Trey Benson will take over the starting running back job. DiMarcato will be the RB2. And yeah, it sucks. He's done. And at this is, I mean, we're going to talk about another guy here,

but at this stage of the career, kind of like what we saw with Austin Echler, you just wonder, okay, if it's season-ender, I mean, Connor's under contract. he's a captain so they'll probably give him another chance but at the same time this could be you know the end of what you see from James Connor you don't want to go out that way for for the other guy Najee Harris this is an Achilles and he was on a one-year deal so that could be far far worse um as far as an opportunity to come back this could be the end

of the career for Najee yeah for that one I think is uh it's really hard to come back from an Achilles for anybody and so for Eckler for Najee this late in their career it seems very low odds that they get back to a I would say major contributor for a team. It's possible they could come back. Yeah, Noggi might be a help. As a backup, but. C.D. Lamb left early. ankle injury did not return.

We're seeing high ankle talk, but not, you know, multiple weeks, probably. Yeah, this is, from what I'm here is. Not Jerry Jones, though. Well, I mean, it is possible that he's back. Sooner than that. We've brought it up in the past. High ankle springs

usually statistically, historically, you miss zero games or you miss three games. That's pretty much how it goes most of the time. That's not always, but that's what the data says. And so you're not going to go on IR and more than likely he's going to miss a couple of weeks here, which sucks. And it really sucks for DAC, like, you know,

personally speaking, in the League of Record, I am banking on the DAC CD stack. That's what I built my team on. And now it's like, well, you're excited about DAC against Green next week? I am very much not excited. Or Dak against the Jets the next week? Now I need to look for

a new quarterback because even though I mean it's good for fantasy utilization of George Pickens George Pickens being the one for Dak isn't good enough and can cause interceptions. And Jake Ferguson will catch 17 passes a week for That was ridiculous. The most

tired man on a football field I'd ever seen and they're like, go catch more passes. Stop throwing it to me. I'm so tired. When he was standing up. That's what his face said. It's like, please stop. And they're like, you get tackled 17 times. Scott's dirty. I'm going to stop

catching it. You throw it to me. I'm going to bat it down. Don't you make me take a tackle. Mike Evans left the game early for the Buccaneers of the hamstring injury. This has been a problem for Mike Evans throughout his career. And it seems very likely he'll miss some time. They said IR stint, potentially. I saw

I saw somebody, one of the medical guys I followed this morning, he was saying it's very possible that it's an IR. I wouldn't be surprised at his age, his history, and the way, like he, you know, he broke on a ball and kind of non-contact. It wasn't, it wasn't the play

where you're sprinting full speed and then all of a sudden it was immediately like, well, I'm done. I never thought I'd say that Serling Shepard could end up on a waiver wire show ever again, and he belongs on a waiver wire show. Sure does. Terry McLoren left Sunday's game with a quad injury. I didn't even see this one.

didn't return. Yep, we'll have to monitor see if he's going to miss some time. Man, injuries suck. Tyrone Tracy Jr. left Sunday night football with a right shoulder injury. He was actually running pretty well in that game,

but he did not return. Mack Jones re-agravated a PCL injury. He was the quarterback for the 49ers, leading them to the illustrious victory over the hapless Cardinals. And, yeah, Brock Purdy was questionable this past week. He could be back. We'll see.

Colston Loveland, injured his hip, didn't return. He had made at least one catch in that game. And then we lost three players to concussion, Noah Phant, Michael Mayer, Alec Pierce. Alec Pierce, who was cooking. Yeah, he was. He was over 100 yards. And Daniel Jones, I mean, I know here we are.

It was Tennessee again where you go, okay, it was not a very good defense. We keep making reasons why Daniel Jones's play isn't Daniel Jones. like Sam Donald from last year where we just need to buy in because, yes, I mean, he was good against Denver, and Denver was a, is a great defense. But it was at whom? Right, and two of them have been bad. Now, he's going to go on the road to the Rams.

I mean, that's not. Then we'll know for sure, guys. Then we'll definitely know. Now, it's funny because he has, how many times has he thrown for two or more passing touchdowns on the year? Two or more? Yeah, two or more. Not this week.

don't think, right? It was just Michael Pittman. Is it once? The answer is never. Oh, okay. He hasn't thrown two touchdowns in a game this year. Because he's too busy in the Jones zone sneaking him in. Yeah, we did. I do not like that. We have named the one-yard line, the Jones zone. So whenever, you know,

my guy, Jonathan Taylor touchdowns. No rushing touchdowns this week from Daniel Jones. It was a great thing. For Jonathan Taylor. Yes. Well, what else matters? That was news and note sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers

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top five scores at the quarterback position oh cool I played against this guy Caleb Williams number one our main two leagues Andy's going against Caleb Caleb Rome's stack Yeah

And in the other one I'm going against Caleb Rome Yeah We were not having We were not enjoying that game You know what I don't know if anybody out there Has heard anybody say this

I don't think the Cowboys are a good defense Really? No I don't I think I think they're pretty bad I'm hearing they may trade For Micah Parsons

Yeah All right Caleb Williams was number one on the week Jalen Hertz was number two Comeback victory for the Eagles What a wild weekend of like it was penalty flags all over the place in the first half of those morning games early games and then blocked field goals and missed field goals and special teams overall plays and like

the fact that the league has made the adjustments to the kickoff to now where players are doing things on the kickoff it is i would be curious how this week stacks up in total defensive teams scoring touchdowns oh yeah Minnesota i mean there were so many teams Carolina had Tampa. Seattle had the special teams. The Eagles had one. Yeah. It was all over the place. Crazy. Gino Smith was number three.

Thanks, Trey Tucker. Three touchdowns. Josh Allen number four, Marcus Marietta number five. Marioada had some juice. Caleb Williams, 19 for 28, 298, and 4. He is now the current... He is the quarterback two. He's the quarterback two on the year.

I mean, yeah, through three weeks and you put up a... I mean, but he was quarterback nine in week one. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It does. It juices it up. Kyle, he's on the mic.

So he's on pace for 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. Kyle, what is the Mario de stat that you were sharing about him finishing the top 12 versus Stroud? He's been a top 10 quarterback three times in the last year and he's only started one game. And Stroud is two? Stroud has two. In that same time period. Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool.

That's a fun stat. You've been top 10 three times and you've only started a game. That's insane. Yeah. So there you go. I mean, another player to mention, like Drake Mays still inside the top 10 on the year, 28 for 37, 268 and 2 against Pittsburgh. Undone by the fumbled universe that happened over there?

I would say for... But quarterback four and quarterback six the last two weeks. Switching back to Caleb just real quick is... I mean, QB9 against me. Minnesota in week one. That's pretty great. Against the Dallas Cowboys, Russell Wilson threw for 450 yards.

And Russell Wilson on Sunday night against the Kansas City Chiefs looked like a man who was daring his coaching staff to bench him. I thought it was very ironic that they brought Jackson Dart in for two read options, and then they never let Jackson Dart take the read option and run, and then they brought Russell Wilson back, and then they ran a read option where Russell did take the ball. and ran it for four yards. It was so weird.

The read option is the choice of the quarterback. I think Dart made two good calls. Russ made a bad one. Russ is like, I got this. Jonathan Taylor. Limited diarrhea. I mean, he was right. I said he stinks.

I told you he stinks. You got shamed last week because of Russell Wilson. Oh, because of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I mean, gross. We all thought that maybe the Giants could pull off a victory. They honestly, they could have. if they had any sort of competent quarterback play. Running back stars this week.

Jonathan Taylor, number one again. Oh, so good. Jonathan Taylor looks like the number one running back in football. Yes, he does. Jordan Mason coming in at number two, two touchdowns. Could have been even better. That was a blowout. O'Mary in Hampton.

Hey, hey. There he is. Hey. 22 fantasy points. Cam Scataboo. Oh, baby. Despite his quarterback, Cam Scataboo just runs with a purpose.

Since the year 2000, the list of day three rookie running backs who have had a game of 120 plus yards and 6 plus receptions in their first three starts. Camp Scadaboo just did it. I know. It's a very specific thing. I just saw it's laughing it. And no one else has done it. Essentially, it's just saying day three running backs in doing this much this. They're in week three?

Yeah, yeah, it's great. Granted, it did take the injury to Tyrone Trace. don't know what that split would have looked like if Tracy didn't go down. Oh, and Hampton had his 26 opportunities. Obviously, Naji went down there as well. We don't know the timeline for Scatibu and the Tracy injury to see if, but the thing is, is sometimes when you get the opportunity and you show out, the opportunity doesn't go away. And Camp Scataboo is a very rare, like we are universally anti-day three running back picks. Like we, we try to pump the brakes on them and say, guys, they don't work out.

Like, it's like a 10% bet. Some do. Some do. But like the vast majority don't. And this was the one guy beforehand. We were like, he shouldn't have been a day three pick. He is, he had, his last season in college was like Christian McCaffrey type numbers. And he falls to day three. And then he just comes to the NFL and looks like this. And man, his pass blocking. He is vicious. He's a dog. I mean, did you see? He got that guy in the ribs, and that guy went down. He was like, what just hit me? Although Judkins also had one of those.

Do you see where he took out Parsons? When he chipped him? Yeah, he chipped. But it was more of a like, cold forearm shoulder shimmy. Yeah. James Cook was number five on the week. McCaffrey, 15 more targets for the 49ers who are running out of wideouts. Juan Jennings did not play in this game.

So he has 84 opportunities through three games. Oh, my gosh, you're going to break him. No, he's fine. It does scare you. It is, it's a weird season right now. He's fine. Like Ken Walker and CMC are healthy. That's right.

Three weeks and, like, you've got all the peripheral players on these teams going down. Just be careful with him. 15 targets and 17 rush attempts? Yeah. Well, I mean, here's the truth. He saw a rush or a rush attempt or a target on 55. percent of their plays. The majority of their plays was Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. That shouldn't work that well, but it did. They're three and O.

Kyron, 24, 24. Super impressive. This was against the Philadelphia. I took his less on prize picks because going up against the Philadelphia Eagles and that front, man, 94 rushing yards against them. That's pretty impressive. Speaking of impressive, you saw it the first week of this that he got an opportunity Quinshawn Judkins 18 for 94 and a touchdown against Green Bay's defensive front he's up to 55% of the snaps

go ahead and so Judkins looks like a studkins going forward Ken Walker 16 for 38 Ken Walker line ever for two touchdowns which in that it is I took him more than 54 yards

and he wasn't even close the it's it's just a beautiful ken walker stat line that game was also super weird i mean he he got 16 carries so you expect more but they know what like the seattle they knew what they knew what seattle was going to do because seattle was up a bajillion points yeah he didn't play for like the full fourth i was going to say it was 21 to three with in the first quarter like five minutes left to go in the first quarter yeah this was the uh let's see what the saints do outside of being at home. Do they still play these teams close? Nope. No. J.K. Dobbins keeps it going.

11 for 83 in a rushing touchdown. He's been the running back 13, 15, and 10 through three weeks, and they've lost two of those games, right? So there's that, but he's playing well. We had, yeah, I mean, anybody else we want to talk about from the running back group? I think it's worth mentioning the Mander's running back room because that was a question going in is like how how did it work out because you started the game with Chris Rodriguez Jr. getting everything. Yeah, I think he got two full drives.

Yeah, he ended up playing 38% of the snaps, had 11 rushing attempts, didn't do much with him despite looking pretty good on that first drive. Bill comes in afterwards. He gets some work, Bill Kroski, and he looked pretty good. He got a touchdown. And then you still had McNichols who worked in, and he ended up with the biggest play of the day for the commanders.

He had a 60-yard touchdown run, which was pretty crazy because he was stopped at the line like three times. They looked like they gave up on that one. Yeah, it was crazy. Going forward. 11 opportunities for Rodriguez, just so you know, nine, nine for Crosky and four for McNichols, but the game was also out of hand after a certain point. It's a tough one. I don't, I'm not, I'm not looking at McNichols as a pickup because

of the play, but I would say that Chris Rodriguez, you know, do you feel like you could play him going forward? I don't know about that. I still think Croski's at the top of the list, but, you know, we had a backup quarterback that was running a ton of read option. You know, Mario was running the football a lot too. I don't know how many rushes attempts he had, but I'm guessing it was maybe more than McNichols. I mean, yeah, six rush attempts for 40 yards. Yeah, I mean, Bill

is definitely the one you would want the most. He still seems like the best. I think what's sad is this was his opportunity to kind of take over. And it wasn't. He didn't have a takeover. He had a split. Yeah, I mean, he didn't even get to start the game. We were like, why is Rodriguez

out there for drive? We'll take a break. We'll talk wide receivers. All right, looking at the wide receivers, obviously, Trey Tucker, always number one. Dude, can we bring up your dynasty? Oh, please do. Okay, we have to bring this up because you have literally the worst, the worst roster I've ever seen. On paper. This is the greatest case against listening to our podcast that you could possibly make.

So Andy went into sell mode. Okay, you've got a ton of future assets. you are doing a rebuild. You were famously on this show for the last decade. This is Kmart sell mode. This is we're bankrupt. Yeah, you have always been in it every year, selling future assets, never having picks for multiple years out,

competing every single year, and you finally said. I've never had a losing season in that. Yeah, you said, I'm tearing it down. Yeah, to the nubs. To the nubs. Let me explain some nubs. You started. Yeah, yeah.

You started your best lineup of Mac, Mac Jones. This isn't a single quarterback league Yeah, Mac Jones Ramondre Stevenson Oh, Ruffumble Kareem Hunt Mm, touchdown Epic I-O Manor

Probably your best player DeAndre Slaten DeAndre Staten DeAndre Darius Slaten Hunter Henry Double touchdown Tyquant Thornton

Touchdown And Trey Tucker One, two, three Three touchdowns You have one of the highest scores in the league Yeah, two and O Oh man

It just wild. Could you imagine losing to that? Sorry, Brooks. I mean, yeah, it was Brooks, and he's like staring across. He's playing Josh Allen and Chase Brown, Terry McClure. Justin Jefferson, Hubbard, Flowers, just got smoked.

Week one for my team, 76 points. Week two, 61 points. Week 3, 130. Trey Tucker number one. That's ridiculous. Yeah. Fantasy stupid. All right. Number two, Cortland Sutton back at it. Could have had more.

but 20 points. We'll take it. AJ Brown, hey, you play football. And he looked strong. I mean, he had a lot of plays where. I still don't like the Eagles' offense. This is what I wanted to talk about. Let's talk about that for a second because this was the product of being down 26 to 7 or whatever the score was in that game.

They were getting boat raced. It showed that they have the capacity. Yeah, because they got talented players. Agent Brown and Devonte Smith are awesome wide receiver. Not good. Devonte Smith was 8 for 60 in a touchdown. AJ Brown was six for one or nine and a touchdown. This was classic offense.

If they need them, those guys can go ham. I still don't like the system. But sometimes if your players are just good enough, whatever. It doesn't matter. Like, just go make a play. Play backyard ball. And AJ Brown catches, you know, a 10-yard pass. And then it's like, you know how much stronger I am than you?

You lay down. I'm going to run over you and keep picking up yards and nobody can tackle me. I mean, Tampa, Denver, New York, all three of them have pretty good run defenses. So maybe things will brighten up, and this will be more permanent. Garrett Wilson, 19.4, despite the backup quarterback situation there with Tarrad Taylor, and they almost stole that game. But they didn't, although that dance. Oh, man, shout out.

Aaron Glenn, you had one of the coolest. I don't know if cool is the right word. Overreactions ever. Yeah. That was not an overreaction for the moment. You've got to look up the Aaron Glenn celebration dance on the sideline. his team looked like it was going to win the game on the blocked kick touchdown. First year head coaches do that.

Veteran head coaches would never do that because they didn't mean you won the game. And then you just went and lost the game. Yeah, you didn't win. Andy Reid ain't doing that on a touchdown with three minutes. Andy Reid's not doing that ever. It was awesome, though. Garrett Wilson, Nico Collins. Nice to see.

Andy Reid don't have them moves? Yeah. I mean, I made a lot of offers for Nico. I made a lot of offers for Brown. in those type of situations where after the first two weeks you're like, hey, we already know, this is a proven commodity. So, yeah, Aaron Glenn, if you want to go watch.

It's amazing. Yeah, we'll retweet the dance. Is the dance of a loser, though? Oh, it is. I mean, it's the dance. It looks dumb when you lose. Oh, man, it's so good, though. All right, we had, Nico, we talked to that.

It was under two minutes left. Yeah, but it was so, I mean, it only puts you, you needed a field goal. We all knew what was going to happen. It was obvious. It was cool, but I'm just saying as a head coach, I don't know. Luther Burden, 3 for 101. He'll be very unpredictable, but he will have games like this.

That's what I think the story is with him. Roma Dunesay, start of the week, 3 for 62 in a touchdown. That's really it? Yeah, he just missed the second touchdown. But only three catches. Yeah, you're right, Mike. It's interesting. Where is he on the season?

He's got to be close to number one. Yeah, he's like wide receiver two or something. something. Let me see. Yep, he's wide receiver two behind Pooka and Akua, who has 300 receptions. You know who the wide receiver four is? I do because I'm looking at it. Jackson, Smith, and Jigbus. Five for 96 and a touchdown in like half a game. I have a different scoring format. Where's J.S.N. on the one that you're seeing? Five. Quentin Johnston. Oh, huge. Yeah, I'm looking at the player profile, so I'm not sure what the differential is there. Puka, 11 for 1, 12, ho-hum, easy stuff for him. Jason,

start of the week. Michael Pittman Jr. Yes. We built this city. Yes. Six for 73 in a touchdown. It was all Alec Pierce and Josh Downs early. And then all of a sudden it was all Michael Pittman.

Six for 73. It's amazing. Touchdown in two of three weeks. It's amazing what a bad quarterback can do to good players and your opinion of good players. There's a tier of wide receipts. pitman probably McLaurin that you know you're not quite Chase Jefferson yeah and and so you really I mean it sounds the dumbest thing you need a quarterback Malik neighbors needs a quarterback right I mean there's Jemar Chase needs a quarterback yeah Jamar Chase does too

yeah it's just like yesterday there was nothing Malik neighbors could have done but nothing like Michael Pittman is not an elite player he is a very good wide receiver is getting it done and like Jonathan Taylor had you know we kind of started turning our opinion late in the later in the draft season on the show but it's like Taylor had been I feel like the the public opinion on on Taylor had turned I mean he was a former number one overall running yeah and and kept getting hurt and pick this this offense is going to be do-do and I mean betting that the offense was going to be this I would have been a crazy person's tale before the season started. But here we are

and Jonathan Taylor looks incredible. The nice thing is Jonathan Taylor's also getting some work, I mean, not heavy, not Christian McCaffrey level numbers, but you know, he's getting three targets a game. Yeah. And that's, you just get them a couple of those in space. Let me, let me tell you some numbers here because we've got a stud, but it gets mixed with the dud here. Keenan Allen, wide receiver 11, wide receiver

20, wide receiver 12. He's the best friend. Ladd McConkey, wide receiver 25. 55-45-47. Yeah. So when they got Ladd-McConkey, he was brought in to be their Keenan Allen. Then they got their Keenan Allen back. And now, you know, if you're staring down Monkney versus Allen rest of season, I mean...

It's a fair debate. I think that they are in the exact same tier, and I would start them both every week. I don't think that it's going to be Keenan at the end of the year with 17 touchdowns and Lad with none. Kenan's the only player through three weeks who has a touchdown in each week. Um, that's, that's not going to just continue happening, but they are both quality wide receivers who will. This is in the draft season. I was talking about like my biggest issue with Ladd where he was being drafted was, of course Keenan's going to come in here and eat some of that volume. But Ladd still looks great. Um, you know, I don't, I don't think that, I mean, he has been a disappointment, obviously for fantasy statistics at the end of the game haven't given you what you drafted. They're not, they're not close on the targets right now. What's the Ladd targets at?

Well, I'm looking at season pace, 160 to 119. So it is, it's not like a red alert. I agree with you. It's not a red alert on Ladd, but it's a, this was the fear. It's a, you need to adjust the tier for Ladd-McCocky. Right, yeah, for both of these guys. Keenan was so obviously underdrafted. This was, you know, my favorite value in the draft, he was because he basically wasn't

on a roster through training camp, his ADP was criminally. wrong and lad was overdrafted but they're both good players i think they need fewer third downs because keenan that's keenan's down here's the problem though too and we need to bring this up in the context of it is quentin johnston yeah quentin johnston is on pace for 136 targets that puts lad third among the wide receivers mm-hmm quentin johnston three straight wide receiver 24 or better weeks keenan three straight wide receiver 24 or better weeks ladd zero of them zero you don't need lad the way you did last year what was yardage yesterday.

And the week before is 48. Yeah. I'm just saying like, Kenan's in the 60s all three weeks. I would try to trade lad. That's what I would do.

This is not the AJ Brown, Nico Colin situation. This is, Lad's a great player, but Ladd is not Chase Jefferson, Nico, Brown. His physical attributes

are possession oriented. He can have seven catches for 40 yards. Like that's kind of, Yeah, he does. He could have 12 catches for 125 yards if they need them. Right now they don't. Exactly.

Yeah. And Hampton can catch the football. I don't know. I just think that my view of, like if you had to rank lad rest of the season wide receiver wise, it's like 25 for me. Yeah, that's right. That was like the number in my head. Yeah. And it's like that's a big tier change.

And you can still, I think you can get better than wide receiver 25 value in a trade right now. Because of the name and the pedigree and the draft position. Yeah. It's really a matter of value. If you're viewing him... You want Debo? Or Lad? I'd rather have Lad. I'd rather have Lad. Okay. Interesting.

Yeah. I mean, McLaren's banged up and obviously Debo, two good weeks and then this last week wasn't as good. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I don't like Debo, but I still do like Lad. This is a matter of value. And I think if you're viewing him about the wide receiver 25, that's, that's, you know... You'd rather have Pickens or Lad? well now pickens yeah with the with the CD injury probably pick would you rather have quentin Johnston or lad oh that's a great question and it's Quentin Johnston he's going to score more touchdown yes he looks great more weak winning weeks that's crazy that that

that is crazy in to say that sentence yeah I'm sorry we we watch and we learn yep George Pickens said I would imagine if you're trading yeah Josh said he barfed a little for Q. Do you barf a little? You got Ladd someplace? Yeah. That is gross, man. You would have to you could probably in a lot of leagues trade Ladd for Q's plus

plus plus. You know, it's like just on the draft day value. Maybe. Huge looks great. He does. Something happened. And they're throwing the ball like crazy still. Yep. All right. Don't forget about Ricky Pearsall. Yes, your start of the week. Eight for 117. And a catch-off of his

face. Which Mike looks very highly upon. It was just if people haven't seen the play. It's a fourth down play. The Cardinals suck and yeah, he's good. It's such a funny play because the ball is perfect. It's so perfectly

thrown that it hits Pierceall over the shoulder right in the face because he didn't get his hands up, but then he catches it. Did you see Mack Jones's comments about his interception? Because we already have the Mac Jones comment about like most guys would have gotten surgery, but I didn't. Uh-huh. Um, this comment was like, hey, I, I threw it. I threw it right at him. It's not like he gave, he's not like he made a good play or anything. That's what he said. He's like, he's like, he's not like you did anything good. He's trying to take the play away. Yeah. He didn't try to take it. Actually, he gave himself a compliment. He goes, look, I, he goes, I actually ripped it. He's like, I, he's like, I, he's like, you know, the quarterbacks need confidence. Dude, Mac Jones is a character. He is funny. All right, tight ends. I mean, just.

look at my dynasty team. Hunter Henry, 25 fantasy points, two touchdowns. Look great. And you know, you're talking about a new head coach, new offense. Hunter Henry could be more here to stay than we, you know, booty and I mean, what did Diggs do? Nothing. Nothing. Diggs had,

well, he was going up in the first two weeks, then it was just three catches. If I can give you a tight in with 125 target pace, would you take that? Yeah. It's Hunter Henry right now. Dalton Kincade, five for 66 and a touchdown on Thursday. Jake Ferguson, 14 targets and 13 catches should be super essential. The last two weeks, just for the fun of it, on pace for 221 targets.

The 12 targets and 14 targets, and they don't have other players to throw two. And you know what? One of these times, he'll get a touchdown. No, that's where he can't catch. I would imagine. One of them. I see 13 receptions on 14 targets. I assume one of those targets was in the end.

Yeah, he'll have the one he didn't catch because he's not allowed to catch him. He'll have 187 receptions for zero touchdowns. Hawkinson got into the end zone this week. He did. Okay. First touchdown since Thanksgiving of 2023 for Hawkinson. And Trey McBride got into the end zone. It was kind of a slower day for him, five for 43, but he got into the painted area,

which was a challenge until the last week of the C, or never got it, right? No, he did. Oh, we finally got one at the end of last year? Yeah. Okay. well we'll take a break and then we'll talk some duds

well talk some duds well man All right it's not all good pooped in his big boy pants well man

I thought it'd be better Jordan Love 18 for 25 183 and 1. He only attempted one pass over 10 yards down the field. He took five sacks. The Cleveland defense. It is a big, big problem for fantasy.

Joe Burrow was shut down by Cleveland. Jordan Love shut down. Hold on your Burrow and Chase Brown. Yeah, I mean, the Cleveland defense, this is a team that should have beat the Bengals in week one, despite how bad their offense was. was, which was better than the Bengals Week 1, did just shockingly beat the Packers and looked good for a while against Baltimore. And eventually it faded.

But yeah, I mean, the quarterbacks, I mean, Burrow was eight and a half points. Jordan Love was 12. So it is a, they're the number one defense in football. And you do have to pay attention to it. Hello, Dallas. Yeah, I was going to say, Jordan Love is going to be fine because he plays the Cowboys. And the Dallas defense is so bad. How do you not expect Flacco to be able to put up points against Dallas?

I would. Yeah. So, yeah, disappointing week from Jordan Love, I thought it would be better. But I guess Cleveland's just that good right now. Dack, two picks, one touchdown, and ended up, he got pulled from the game, and he wasn't happy about it. No, and he's not going to be great for fantasy coming up here. I mean, DAC has looked good on the season. he's had a handful of interceptions that really truly were not his fault but without cd lamb

yeah which the injury was right away for the people who didn't realize when lamb got hurt right yeah lamb got a carry early in the game and then was out he did not do us the favor of george kiddle and getting a touchdown in a great game before going out very selfish very selfish um but yeah he's my quarterback in a handful of leagues because i've been playing that stack was was yeah I'm going to be, I mean, I'm not just dropping him because I don't know who I'm going to get off of waivers, but I will be on the waiver wire. If you had to go Kyler or Dak. No more questions.

All right. I don't know the Cardinals matchup next week. Well, we know Dak is versus Cleveland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then. Tyler. Kyler. Mahomes, disappointing week.

Fantasy-wise, again, doesn't really have anybody but Tyco on Thornton right now is what it feels like. Wait, Dak's playing Green Bay next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Sorry. Okay. Still kind. That's right.

Yep. Sorry about that. Patrick Mahomes, Bo Nix. Bo Nix just missed. Look, I mean, you end up here, but the, you can go glass half full of Bo Mnix

just barely missed three gigantic plays. I think two of them would have been... He's good at barely missing plays, though. Yeah, yeah. That has been one of his things. Yeah, I mean, two of them, I think two of them were going to be touched.

touchdowns to Marvin Mims, if I'm remembering, right? And then he barely missed Sutton for another huge game. I don't know how to feel about Bo Nix. I don't, I think I'm very middle, middle ground on him. I, I think we all knew the schedule was going to be difficult. We knew that you have the risk of what C.J. Stroud and other, you know, stud rookies have faced historically. And, you know, he's been okay.

Yeah, he's had some bad and he's had some good, you know, the matchup. No interceptions this week, but. The matchup was not easy. Next week against Cincinnati, it should be much easier. Two games under 200 yards, and the other one was 206. So the yardage is not there on pace for 3,000 yards passing. That's been the big issue with fantasy production. Bengals at home this week, I have Bo Nix.

I will be playing him in that matchup. Next week, or week five is on the road against Philly. Probably want to find another option there. But then you get Jets, Giants, Dallas, Houston. I mean, you get a pretty good run here for Bo. But he's probably going to meet someone you want to match up play. Fantasy twins, Kyler, Murray, Trevor Lawrence, disappointing weeks because that's what they do. Kyler.

I mean, what do you even do with Kyler? He hasn't finished in the top 15. Yeah, I mean, he doesn't have any wide receivers to throw the ball to. So it's very, very difficult. It's not a lie. No, it's really, really not a lot. I mean, he's got Zay Jones. Yeah, Michael Wilson, Greg Dorch.

He's got some options. but they're not, you know, we're not talking like, you know, first-round talents. Mike's over there just deep breathing, trying to zen his way out of this pain. It's so frustrating. You know, it's crazy because we were watching that game and it's like we're critical of the offensive system. Because it stinks. But when they took several shots down the field, I mean, he just blew them. I mean, they're wide open play, end zone.

I mean, he threw a deep ball into the end zone. He was right in Marvin's hands. He should have better numbers, but he doesn't have a good wide receiver. C.J. Stroud, he doesn't play football well. That whole offense is broken. I mean, they're 0 and 3, right? Broken. Yeah, they are 0 and 3.

They should be able to beat Tennessee next week. But then they have to play. Then they have to go on the road against Baltimore and Seattle. And then San Francisco and Denver. Like you're staring down a one and seven start, maybe? I'm curious what that Tennessee Texans line is going to be. well it's at home oh okay and so i'm going to guess that there are going to be like six and a half point favorites we probably have it already they do have a great defense probably have it already

maybe even more than that kyle do you have a line it's seven right now okay yeah um all right chase brown we got to talk about chase brown this this is the this has been insane because yes you've had the injury to burrow but this is the first week with jake browning but chase Brown has the fewest rushing yards through three games of any running back in history with 45 or more carries. Like Chase Brown has not got it done regardless of the circumstances. Like you would think you'd see more plays that counterbalanced how bad the line's been or something like that.

According to next gen stats, he has 54, I'm sorry, negative, 54 yards before contact on the season. That is a big problem. Yeah, and it's not going away. Correct. Which is, you know, that's not going to get fixed with a quarterback that doesn't threaten you. With Browning there. So we were curious.

What we thought we were curious about was like, will he target Chase Brown? The answer? Yes. Five targets. Great. Caught for them. It's all irrelevant. If your offense can't move the ball, can't score.

If you're for each one of those targets going to get a yard or two or negative five or whatever it is, like he's not going to accumulate yards and he's not going to get touchdowns. Now, we've got to pump the brakes a little bit because this was the Minnesota Vikings defense, which is at Denver. Very good defense. First Detroit at Green Bay versus Pittsburgh versus New York. I look at this morning. I looked at this morning. Okay, so the Minnesota Vikings, one of the better defense. Yeah, Denver, Denver, then Detroit, then the Packers. Two of those on the road. Then the Pittsburgh Steelers who shut it down this weekend and then the jet. but then Chicago, but then Pittsburgh. I mean, you are...

You might want to get out. I would try to trade him away. Someone's going to still bank on the volume. Man. And it's worth noting on the volume side. You know, this is a player that he's been 75%, 71% of snaps this week, the first week we've seen him. It was a bad 55% percent. Oh, really?

Yeah. Which is usually a decent number for running. It's still a decent number. But what was so great about Chase Brown is that, he was getting the, you know, those Kairn, Christian McCaffrey type of workload opportunity shares. Yeah, I don't know what to make of the snaps. I think P. Rhine got banged up in the game.

Yeah, he injured his thumb. I think he also had a fumble. And then a thumble. Did I say thumble? No, but no, no. Oh, because of the thumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad, my bad, my bad.

Quick and clever. So I don't know that I make it. anything of that. Perhaps you're at the point of the season where you want to put Tosh Brooks on your bench. J. I see. He's already on my dynasty team, Mike. Don't worry about it. I don't understand that argument. Well, then he's about to ascend to the heavens. I don't understand the argument. You're saying P. Ryan got injured. Yeah. And that made Chase Brown play fewer snaps? No, no, no, no. I'm saying like of just what happened overall in the game. Like P. Ryan was getting snaps, but now he's been hurt. So maybe that helps Chase

got it in the future. Yeah. Yeah. Seekuan Barkley, a down week for him. Ashton Genty, 17 for 63. Zero targets is concerning. That's maddening. He was hit at or behind the line of scrimbage on 11 to 17 rushes. And people, he looks good. He looks really good. I'm still trading for Ginty.

Okay. I'm active, like if somebody's burnt out from the first round pick, yeah, that's a player. Like, I'm going after my number one targets this week, or number one or two targets. I'm going after Gensy and I'm going after Brian Thomas Jr. That's what I'm doing this week. That's already put in my calendar. How sad are you that Brian Thomas Jr. had that big play?

I mean, it's still, nobody's happy with him this week. That's true. He only had two receptions. Yeah, he's like, yeah, he finished wide receiver 40. So I'm very happy that he had no other big plays and that he is like something's off right now, Shane Waldron. And, but I'm still targeting those two players this week. Can you imagine how good Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be next year when Shane Waldron leaves? Because Shane Waldron left and J.S.N. went ham.

Shane Waldron left and Roma Dunese win him. Yeah. How do teams not see this? It's ridiculous. Well, there's been a couple guys like that, right? I mean... Yes, yes. Coaches get jobs continuously even when they...

Who was the Jets head coach number two? Oh, Adam Gaze. Adam Gaze. Matt and Aggie, who's hiding behind Andy Reid. At least it's easier to hide there. I'm sorry, Andy. I couldn't help myself. I was like, I shouldn't say it.

I shouldn't say it. it, but, you know, it was a big joke. All right, we won't hit any buttons. Tuba Hubbard, 17 for 73. I don't think that's a done. No, that's fine. I came in, him and Javante were kind of

twinsies. Javante was really, really good, but had one of the worst, most embarrassing plays. Give me that. Give me that. That's what it was. He just ran up to him and took the ball. I don't remember

ever seeing that before. givante first of all he was on the middle of him i eat the whole thing of a really good run he's near the side line the defender comes up and instead of tackling him he just said he just takes the ball i don't like giovante or tuba being in here they were fine yeah um brest though nine for 21 on the ground four for 31 through the air that was disappointing they couldn't get it going on the ground at all against tampa which is not too surprising but nick chub you know gross their offense is gross There was more woody marks. Yeah, you've been talking about it.

You've got to pay attention. He was brought up on Wednesday show last week of not someone to play, but we've gone from 11 to 27 to 48% of the snaps. Only eight opportunities, but step one is get on the field. If a meaningful fantasy contributor is being at the top of the stairs, Chubb can get up four steps for your team. And maybe you're cool with that. But you need a player that can climb a few more steps.

Yeah, because Chubb, feels like he's going up the stairs on his hands and feet. You know, like on quad? On quad? Yeah, quads some quad robics or something? Is that how you would do it if you have a hard time? Woody Marks, you're hoping could do like the normal skip a step. It might be a boat.

Could be. DeAndre Swift, 13 for 33. Three for 45 through the air. Still going to contribute but not always. They certainly haven't moved away from him yet. And that's the best we can say for DeAndre Swift. Isaiah Pacheco turned the way and ran the wrong way on a screen

pass that turned into a fumble for the Chiefs. He's 10 for 45 in this game. He's from. Kareem Hunt is a better play on a weekly basis than Pacheco. I felt so bad for Pacheco because he's from that area and he was talking about he had like 50 seats like bought and old friends and attendants. And it was just like

they clearly, I mean Kareem Hunt was the better player, used more. Goal line. And it was just like, yeah and didn't screw up and cause a fumble that Mahomes went and rescued. Speaking of screwing up, I'm sorry, Jason. What I do.

Where's the clown music that, do we have the clown music from when the Cardinals off season? Do we have that music somewhere, Al? Romandre Stevenson, after a dominant week. Two fumbles. Yeah, that's, well, one fumble and then one goal line fumble. Yeah, oh man. Extra special on the way across the goal line.

Yeah. Antonio Gibson, by the way, came in and fumble. Yeah. The time is now, New England. Pittsburgh barely won that game. Barely won against the Patriots when the Patriots fumbled it four times. Yeah, was Drake May fumbled another one?

Yeah. Or somebody else did. I mean, Ramandre was, honestly, they wanted really badly to use Ramandre a bunch in this game. And they couldn't do it. Like, literally he took himself off the field. Remandre should have been four for 19 in a touchdown.

I mean, who knows what I really worry. We were talking before the show about it and there's going to be different opinions and you could decide that Trayvion's a buy right now and that's fine. You can go in on that, the talent. The problem is that Mike Vrable is an old school coach. I don't think that the physical between the tackles running

of Trayvion Henderson has impressed anybody so far. He was 2.5 a carry this week. He got 14 opportunities. 11 on the ground. The week before, didn't do anything on the ground. I think that they're going to give Ramandri more opportunities to be out there. And I don't think they're going to take that away because, you know, Trayvion has struggled with the penalties in the pass protection, which he got blown up again this week. I don't know. I'm not sure exactly where that New England offense is going to go, and I'm open to opinion.

I still am up. While he has not been good between the tackles, he is electric in the receiving game. He has juice that this team looks like they really need. And while he was a great colleague, legate pass protector. In the NFL, he has, to say he's struggled is an understatement. He has been a liability on pretty much every opportunity. However, we look, like I brought this up, I think I brought it up on air in the off season, but like pro football focus, you know, last year's data on past protectors, like the worst past protectors in the league were some of the best fantasy football options because they don't, they pass protect by leaking out, by being the dump off. And that's what they need to get to with Trayvion, because the offense needs him in the

receiving game. And that's his best way to protect Drake May, is not to stand there and try to be this undersized back dealing with, you know, crazy big NFL players coming at him. But just get right over the line and say, oh, you want to rush my quarterback. You're going to get the ball dumped right over your head to an electric player. So I do think that that's coming. I'm not by any means out on Trayvion and Ramandre while they you can say they want to get him the ball it's not like this is a brand new problem for him fumbling or Gibson they've both struggled with fumbles and so this isn't good this isn't good for remandre to go and cost them the game and and it I do think it means a few more opportunities going to their drafted player in Trayvion coming up soon but yeah I mean

we don't know yet you got to call your shots R.J Harvey I mean they at least it was not a bidet but it was kind of phased out of the offense RJ Harvey two rushing attempts three catches yeah not startable right now nope wide receivers we all saw in prime time

elite neighbors and Wondell Robinson sink back into the pit of Russell Wilson and that was a bummer and also Jamar Chase I mean with their tackle back how it wins is Jackson Dart. When does it happen?

What's the record? 0 and 3? So soon? Let's look at this schedule here. I've got the game. At New Orleans after next week. Okay. One more Russell Wilson against the Chargers, Jackson Dart against New Orleans. Oof. Because to be clear, Russ is going to look horrible against the Chargers this week. Although me saying that may make him throw for 500 yards because we have some weird

relationship with Russell Wilson on the show. I don't know. I don't know if it's the unlimited drop. I don't know if it's like a switch, and every time we hit it, he switches from good to bad, and we don't know that that's happening. Okay. And so, like, we're not keeping track. Like, you did an unlimited diarrhea today. I'll do another one.

That gets him back to bad. Okay. I think it's actually, it's only when we make official declarations. Like, we'd say Russ sucks all the time, and he continues to suck. But in our history, when we have gone out of the way to make an official segmented Russ sucks this week. So back in the day, we used to have this. segment um that was like a sits of the week type of thing oh and we had this stretch of games it

was unbelievable i think mike you were first and you made him your sit of the week and then he crushed the next week he had a tough matchup and and he comes and he says i'm going to show you how it's done russ is going to sit this week um and then he did a great job and then the third week i was like boys you don't know how to do it let me show you how to how to bench russ and then he went off. As soon as we stopped doing that, he has sucked from that moment till all of a sudden, Mike on Friday, you're like, I'm taking

the less on his yardage because he sucks and then he goes off. Yeah, so. Well, let's just not say anything official then, but it's going to be a rough week. Unofficially. After that New Orleans game that you think Jackson Dart might start?

Philly is twice in four weeks or something. It's Philly, Denver, Philly. So maybe week nine for Dart. I don't know if you could have painted a more negative picture for the first three weeks for the Cincinnati Bengals. You lose Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, unmitigated ADP disaster. Yeah. T. Higgins, invisible, one catch this week. Only two targets.

And then Jemar Chase, five for 50, which is not enough, not even close. Where did the ball go? It went on the ground. I mean, opponent's arms. No joke. He threw it 27 times. Yeah, but a lot of it was to the opponent. A ton.

Minnesota's Isaiah Rogers is the answer to that question. The offensive line when Joe Burrow was there, we knew like this is a problem for Joe Burrow, which is part of why Joe Burrow got hurt. Jake Browning is clearly many tiers below Joe Burrow, but he has that exact same offensive line that cannot protect anyone. And when you go, he'll have matchups this year that will be fine, but they're far off. I mean, the defensive line for Denver coming up and for the Lions and for the Packers, it is, they can't. We knew that O and four for the next four games was coming. They don't have the personnel to be able to protect him. And so when you can't be protected, you might have a game with 16 targets to Jamar Chase,

but they're all going to be screens. They are, because there's just no way that you can get him the ball. So you just keep playing Jamar. Jamar you do. Yeah, probably. don't. He's on pace for 589 yards on the year. Or you try to trade Jamar away for, I mean

it always feels like Oh, it's at a discount now. It's going to backfire to ever recommend that, but goodness. I don't know if you can get it done right now with how negative things are and the fact that Joe Burroughs gone. I mean, because the players that you'd want to get back, no one's

giving you JSN for Chase right now. Oh, no. That ship is gone. I don't know what you do. I think you just hold on. like Chase, like you said, the targets will be there for Chase. They're not going to be there necessarily for Higgins. So that's, uh, it's rough. And then Ladd-McConkie we already talked about it.

Drake London, 5'4. He's got a Michael Pinnock's Jr. Problem. Dude. I mentioned it last week. I was really worried about it, dude. I was really worried about that offense in the pass catchers. So you didn't say you were goose egg to 30.

Carolina Panthers. I mean, getting shut out by the Panthers, 30 to nothing. I mean, 30 to nothing. The passing was. You know, the worry was, are they going to be a team that does not pass the ball a lot? Because we saw, you know, the week prior, only 21 passing attempts. Michael Pinnock's had plenty of passing attempts in this game against the not good defense. And he looked, he looked.

Early in the game, we were like, darn near incompetent. We were like, I was like, dude, all he does is throw to the flat. He just like looks down for a split second throws to the flat. Eventually he threw it to the flat and a defender was there. The defender's like, oh, I know where this is going. is going to the flat. It looks like a problem. 4.8 yards per attempt.

That is pathetic. And he threw the ball 36 times, which is a good amount of attempts. Keep in mind he only played 77% of that game before Kirk Cousins came in. 36 attempts in 77% of the game and Pitts and London are on the bus list.

Yeah. As are Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter together, it's been really bad Brian Thomas Jr's catch rate is 28% through three weeks. That's the lowest of any wide receiver to see 25 plus targets through three weeks in the last 25 years. Travis Hunter is unplayable right now.

Yeah, he's almost to the point where you're like, I'm just going to cut him. Yeah. I mean, I have him and I'm like, I don't know if he's worth a roster spot. He's a sexy name, and that's your reason to hold him, because if you have a sexy name, that's a rookie combined with one good game, boo! That's when you can make a trade.

I'm not cutting Hunter because it can improve. But you can't play him right now. No, you can't. He played quite a few snaps on defense, was targeted more on defense than he was on offense. Gave up more yards than he accumulated on offense. It was not a good day for Travis Hunter. Marvin Harrison, three for 44.

We talked about it. I mean, he's a player that it's a big name. If you're in the trade market, do you believe it gets better? Do you believe he's startable? Last year, he had good games. But it wasn't, like, his consistency level. Yeah, a good game this year.

All right. So he's at 41%. We have enough games at Marvin Harrison Jr. Right now he is 41% of the time over 10.5 points. That's a C inconsistency. So Marvin right now, it's just been rough. Seattle, Tennessee, Indianapolis coming up. He's not a guarantee must start.

There are players that were lower drafted that are playing really, really good football right now that you could make the decision to put in over him. Yeah. Like Mike, you benched him this week. I sure did. And how did it feel? Oh, man. It felt so good.

You didn't care enough when you were watching all this bad stuff because you had like a seal. so much. You had like this mental shield of like, I kind of want him to not be good because it proves my decision-making. Who'd you play over him? Jalen Warren. Yeah, of course.

Of course. Who? Jalen Warren didn't, he probably didn't show up in the studs. But goodness, he was great this week. And his utilization is just, it is a very strong point. His workhorse. Yes.

Ted McMillan, three for 48, eight targets, though. So good. Good. Debo, Samuel, just three targets. Tets got that dog in him. Yes. Yes. Debo, just two for 11 with Marietta, three for 18, rushing. Not too worried about him. He may have bigger opportunities if you want to buy low. He might. With Jaden Daniels coming back and maybe a prolonged absence by McLaurin.

Calvin Ridley has been awful, as has Cam Ward. I think that's the real issue. I mean, Iow Manor's been good. Iow Manor's got a touchdown in the last two games, and that is very good for fantasy. But Cam Ward, he is struggling right now. His, you know, his throwing motion is weird. It's new.

And, yeah, it's not a generous way to put it? It's tough, and he's got the Houston defense coming up in Houston. You know, I'm not chasing those receivers. just because... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But are you cutting Ridley? It's a big name to cut, but he's probably worth cutting. We'll talk about it on a way to show tomorrow.

He's probably expendable. Brock Bowers, Tucker Kraft, Tyler Warren, Travis Kelsey, Kyle Pitts, five players that have been pretty good contributors to your fancy team all in the Duds list this week. Bowers did very little. The problem with Kraft playing, and when I heard that he was going to play,

It was like, there were so many people that were like, would you play Kraft or Ferguson? It's like now you feel like after Kraft's breakout, you got to put him back into your lineup. Yeah. But you knew that he was probably going to be a little bit limited, and it was Cleveland. So I feel like people got trapped at Kraft this week.

Tyler Warren, though, three for 38, their defense. Tucker Kraft plays Dallas next week, though. Yeah, I mean, it's not like you don't play. We'll be back. You'll play all these guys again, right? I mean, Zachers didn't have, he didn't have Daniels. Yeah. So, I mean, Kelsey, though, 4-4-26.

Zachard's utilization was also strange. They were... Of just how much he was actually on the field. Like early? Because, I mean, they blew the barn doors off of the Raiders. I mean, they were up by a million points. It still was a little strange. Any concern?

Other than Kelsey, I mean, Kelsey seems like... You need him so bad right now and he doesn't have it. Yeah, he doesn't have it. And honestly, like, you know, we talked about how for years, Kelsey was the guy working his way back. Kelsey's got just the dog of dogs in him. And Kelsey's starting to look just kind of like a baby. Almost 36 years old.

Well, sure, but like I feel like he's kind of whiny. You know, you see the argument with Reed throwing his hands and you're always in the Super Bowl and you're always winning all your games and you're dating of a superstar. Two updates for the injury front before we close this out, by the way. Low grade hamstring injury for Mike Evans, still likely to make. miss time. Dislocation of the shoulder for Tyrone Tracy going to miss time. All right. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner of the NFL.

Now, we've got a thought, Jay. Yeah, we've got quite the game tonight that a lot of people are, they have their vested rooting interests, whatever they need or need to not happen. Are you trying to recruit people to your rooting interests? Of course I'm trying. Of course I'm trying. I lost C.D. Lamb. I got a goose. I need I am heads up and I need the people to root with me. I need Mark Andrews to do something. Please catch a touchdown. Mark Andrews and David Montgomery need to outscore Jemir Gibbs. I got a fun question. Not likely, but possible. If you could go back in time and play Njoku and get his 6.5 fantasy points or have Mark Andrews open, you know, live tonight. It was actually, yeah, I would. It was actually Zach

Ertz, who I had in the lineup, who I pivoted to Mark Andrews. So I'm pretty happy that Zach Ertz ended up with. Mark Andrews so far, one point and point nine. Yeah, no, I agree, but he's due, right? He is due for a touchdown, but you are touchdown or bust tonight with Monty and Andrews. I think if I get five points from Andrews or fewer, I don't have a chance to win this game. I need a touchdown.

I need nine points from Andrews. I can tell you from experience, going into Monday night, needing a bit of a miracle, and on the opposing side is Jemir Gibbs. It's not fun, is it? It is not fun. Dang. It is not fun at all. He's so fast.

Baltimore, Detroit tonight. Enjoy the game. We'll be back with our waiver wire episode tomorrow. Take care, everybody. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on Jointhefoot.com. and follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers.