Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 3 Waivers & Streamers + Rookie Rundown - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/16

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 16, 2025. Waiver Wire pickups for Week 3! Find out which players to target in your fantasy football leagues, and who you can drop to do it. Plus, QB streamers, injury updates, and a recap of Monday Night Football. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(01:41) Monday Night Recap(08:12) Rookie Running Back Concerns(12:05) NFL News(15:40) Waiver Wire(16:40) RB Waivers(23:05) WR Waivers(31:05) TE Waivers(36:25) DST Waivers(38:35) QB Streamers(46:00) Mailbag(47:05) Faab spend on Matthew Golden?(47:50) Trade away Javonte Williams?(49:45) Trade Chase Brown for Ken Walker?(51:15) Trade AJ Brown for Emeka Egbuka?Connect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footballer Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. The fantasy footballers back with you Tuesday, September 16th. Mike, the fantasy hitman, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Week two in the books, and we are here with a waiver-wire episode, news to talk about. We'll reflect on the Monday night games, and we will talk. talk about the rookies because

I think that's one of the big reactions from two weeks. The Dukies. Oh, okay. Hannock in the streets. Yeah, we've had two weeks of NFL football. We've had a bunch of rookie running backs with huge opportunities or so we thought

or perhaps they will come. But Hampton, Gentie, Henderson, Caleb Johnson, R.J. Harvey. it's not been a good two weeks. There are a lot of people with panic, like you said, and they want to know what to do with these players that they drafted to start. And last night, you know, if we want to get into the two games,

we had the Buccaneers and Baker Mayfield. Dog. 20 to 19 over the Texas who are now 0 in that division. I saw Baker suffer, I think, three season-ending injuries last night. His knees are destroyed, his ankles, gone. and yet continues to play dog he's so fun to watch he is an incredible story the the play where he is down he is on his knees writhing kind of in pain and then immediately gets off to he just gets up to talk crap he's like oh wait because of fuels him he turned the switch off the pain's like she flipped it off

someone's near me i could talk some crap to his face check this out i'm not even hurting anymore And then he ran... Until he went on the bench and his face was the man of who was in extreme pain. There was no one to talk crap to you on the bench, man. Then he ran again. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Fourth and 15, he was fine and popped back up. And so they get it done. Bucky Irving, 17 for 71, didn't score Rashad White with the tricky touchdown at the end. Because there's no, if I'm that defense, and I see Rashad White, 0.0% chance that they're going to run the ball. That's why it was so smart.

I know. That's why he's so smart. Oh, it is, it's disrespectful. Five for 56. Abuka, four for 29, did save it with a touchdown. And a legal touchdown. And Buck Irving, pay attention here. Six for 50 through the air through two weeks.

This is something you saw in preseason that has been validated so far with the snap counts as high as they are for Buck Yerving, getting involved in the passing game. I mean, he was, he led the team in receptions. Just like, wow. That wasn't something I think we saw coming. And then Nico Collins, you know, it was good and bad for Neutral. He scored an amazing touchdown. Nine targets, awesome. But only three of them were caught.

And the offense still looks like it's okay at best. Yeah, that offensive line is going to be an issue. I mean, it's not like we didn't know how important offensive lines are. But if you look around the league, you look at the Eagles and the, you know, the lions and these teams who focus on their offensive line. And then there are a handful of teams, the Bengals now without Joe Burrow, because they couldn't protect him and he just kept getting massacred behind the line or or the Texans who have plenty of skill position talent, a good quarterback. And it's irrelevant. You can't. Your offense is just inept when you have no offensive line. On the other in the other game, the Chargers beat the Raiders

20 to 9. It was a bad day for Gino Smith. Gina was so disappointing. For somebody that has been near the top of the league in completion percentage in recent years to go 24 for 43 and constantly be missing players that are wide open. Mike was sweating out a victory and needed Jacoby Myers not to do anything. Myers had 12 targets. He only caught six of them and multiple touchdown

opportunities were taken away by Gino Smith. Brock Bowers. And really, really good defense. Yeah, the Chargers defense looks fully legit. I mean, they are they play angry. Is this, can it finally happen? After years.

It's always injuries. Years and years and years. if you're like, hey, you're, the sneaky insiders are like, we, yeah, it's the chargers. This is the year. They're going to be good. And then it never works, but Harbaugh. Harbaugh has changed the franchise. They're ready to make a serious run and be a Super Bowl contender. Justin Herbert was great. And through two weeks, I mean, you guys got to realize this. He's basically sustaining three good fantasy options at wide receiver. Quentin Johnston, Keenan Allen, both scored. my saving grace start of the week

for goodness sakes. I needed Keenan in a big way. We're on to week three, bro. Yeah, Ladd-McConkey, 5'48. He is not going to be what he was last year, I think. I think that was why I was concerned about drafting him in general was just that Keenan and having more options.

I am personally not concerned about Ladd at all. I'm not really concerned. It's just where did you tear him in before the season and where do you tear him in now? I mean, I think he was unanimously a wide receiver one before the season. Do you, look at him as a wide receiver, a top 12 wide receiver now, Mike? No, not top 12.

The Keenan Allen, when they brought him in, that was, like, Ladd McConkey was on the board for my guy for the entire offseason. And the Keenan Allen was like that I had to pivot away because the, that true ceiling was gone. But I, the way that they're throwing and, like, teams will eventually start respecting the other options of like, they're like, oh, I guess we do have to guard Kuge. maybe that's something that we have to shut down and then that just that reopens the field for lad

honestly cuge is a big problem for defenses because he is not their best most important thing you need to shut down he's not you the way that lad and keenan can command just normal drives and just moving chains and they get open and you're focused on them it was before that touchdown from huge i remember having the thought in my head I was like, it feels impossible that Quge doesn't get a long bomb in this game because eventually you're going to take a couple shots and the defense cannot be focused on that

when you've got ladd. So to me, I look at this offense and I just go, wow, they have a real with the laser beam that Herbert can throw, the routes and the space that these two possession receivers can make. And I know Trey Harris just getting involved, but even if you start working on Q, you have two other rookies. Like, this is going to be an offense. It's hard to stop. So one of the big things, I think,

leading us into the discussion about the rookies, because, you know, I named five, like you spent high draft capital on Gentie, on Hampton, on Henderson, on Harvey, really. You know, and then the other ones in the mix. You draft them at a point in your drafts where you're wanting to start them. It hasn't really been viable to start them.

And then in this game, Gentie and Hampton both struggled. Through two weeks, the charges are number one in pass rate over expectation in the National Football League. They're not really running the same running schemes that Baltimore ran when Greg Roman was there. So so far, we're putting the ball in the hands of Justin Herbert, and it's working. They're two and oh. But just to give you perspective, if you want to think about how you go about the rookie situation, because right now it is a sell low on everybody.

If you wanted to get rid of them, buy low. Yeah, or by low and if you're on the other side of it. Here's some numbers. Ryan Heath collected these just to give you data. Through two weeks as rookies. Bucky Irving was averaging five points a game. Rashi Rice had run 16 routes. Jemir Gibbs had a 37% snapshot.

Devon A-chan had played five snaps. Justin Jefferson had six targets. Nick Chubb had five rush attempts. Christian McCaffrey was averaging 2.7 a carry. And you can go on and on. like it is not it's not very normal for a and those are all stars for these players to come out and give you dominant performances to start the year and unfortunately they're getting in their own way hampton had the fumble now that's it was after not getting a ton of work though that was a tough fumble too because he got hit so fast but it was on him jentz he couldn't pass block to save his life against this defense we know henderson had the three he had three penalties um Caleb Johnson gave the team a win

hurt his team without touching the football. The like Henderson was honestly the way we talked about Henderson I'm very very excited we knew it would take some time. The people are not a big fan of that. I know but it's like that was the thing.

The Genty and Hampton one that's more confusing to me of you you took Ashton Genty at number six overall and then you're in a two-minute drill and you're running out Dylan Lauby to to catch passes like that is it's only two weeks of course but as of right now that's egregious of either your scouting not being 100% confident in a you're a rebuilding team and you took a running back at number six that is I stand by of bad teams should never take a running back

that high. But the fact that you're like, no, we need to run another player out there for Gentie. That is horrificness. Week one, Gentie played 86% of the snaps. It's what we expected this week. It was 56% of the snaps. And he made mistakes in pass protection repeatedly, and that could have had a lot to do it. He looked better to me. I'm like, we saw some, some of the college Gentie. You're like, oh, okay, this guy, he can be a very, very special player. But if this is going to be the mix, that's weird. And the Hampton, it's taking a first round running back when you are going to do this with the passing game. It's very strange to me. I would say that with those three main guys, the three highest drafted in fantasy football, personally, I would try to make cheap offers on

them. You know, in different leagues, people are going to be freaking out. They're oh and two because of these guys who are disappointing, who aren't on the field. If you can buy them cheap, I do not personally expect those three running backs to finish the season as bad fantasy assets. I'm the least concerned about Gentie for sure. Yeah. I think Gentie is going to be just fine. I'm probably, you know, Hampton is probably the second I'm least concerned about, but it is a concern to have Harris now 50-50 on the rush attempts in this game.

And you just, you need to give it some time. You let it breathe. But it doesn't mean you have to start those players either. Right. Yeah, no. Even if you trade for them, if you. If you find a good deal where you can flip, you know, a decent elder running back who's doing okay and a, you know, a wide receiver who's had a good first two weeks and you can acquire one of these running backs, that doesn't mean you have to start them. So that's the data on the rookies and our take on them 11% of the way through the season.

Let's talk some news. News and notes from Around the League, presented by Progressive Insurance. More quarterback injuries, more pain. Jaden Daniels with the knee sprain, truly day-to-day. And Dan Quinn said he, quote, can't tell what that means for Sunday right now. He had an MRI. So we'll, you know, I think it's very fair to surmise that Jaden Daniels will probably have fewer rushing attempts in the next couple of weeks.

He may not even play in this game. But if he does, I would expect him to be more limited mobility-wise. Sure. With the knee sprain. J.J. McCarthy, we just found out. He has a high ankle sprain and he's going to be out for two to four weeks. Carson wins.

By the way, McCarthy has an injured ankle. Yeah, there's a bunch of... Just seeing some weird stuff out there and there is... The plays out there, this video, it wasn't at the beginning of the game, but it was right before the end of the third quarter defender gets away with a hip drop

and landed right on McCarthy's ankle. Yep. And the Vikings have two international games in Dublin and London before the week six by. Carson Wins will take over. Joe Burrow, we talked about it yesterday,

but the turf toe injury looks like the Bengals will be without him probably the rest of the season. Brock Purdy, unlikely to play this week. Do you see who the Bengals signed? Like 50 guys? No. No. Footy award winner. Brett Rip and Farrants.

Yeah, he's back, baby. Rippin' farts. Good locker room guy. Yeah. Anyways, Justin Fields is in concussion protocol. And Aaron Glenn said it'll be hard to start him if he doesn't practice Wednesday or Thursday, which seems like definitely up in the air on Justin Fields. This is a really tough week for quarterback streaming.

It is. And it's combined with at the same time, you have a ton of managers in every single league that are, are going to the wire. Like, they need a quarterback this week with all these injuries. So it's rough in the streets. Probably not going to have Aaron Jones this week for the Vikings as well. So no Aaron Jones, no J.J.J.M. McCarthy. Joanne Jennings, who came out in week two action with an ankle injury and then I think came back in.

But we'll see. They're going to pay attention to John Jennings this week, along with like four more 49er injuries. Liam Cohen said Brian Thomas entered. This is such a weird. This story is super weird because. William there's rules what are you doing he was trying to backtrack it he's just working through some stuff so anyways the story is

Brian Thomas apparently entered the game with a wrist injury I don't know if that affects your dog level but Brian Thomas Jr., you know you're supposed to be on an injury report and then they interview him and they're like yeah so if he's came in with a wrist injury why isn't he on the report and then Liam Cohen and like looked like a deer in the headlights like well you know um well Yeah, it's just something he's kind of been dealing with.

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the fantasy footballers.com. We'll start at the running back position. What was that, Jason? What? Just heard a little. Are you going straight from ripping farts into Bayshall Tootin? Look, I didn't name them. Yeah, this is really your, you're living in your, uh, in a dream world. This is a dream. Everything's a fart joke. Uh, Bay Shalt Tootin is near the tippy top of the list, but I was surprised to see Ramandre Stevenson was only rostered in 60% of leagues. That blew my mind when I saw that number. That feels like that. like it is a result of

like emotion like we just don't like him yeah well and we're so excited about Henderson and the report before this week came out that Henderson was going to potentially last week see a lot more snaps and honestly I believe that that report from liars.com

no I think it was true I think it was true because you watch Brable talk about how Henderson was doing what Remandre did in practice this week but what happened in the beginning of the game was Henderson he got he got the bench. I mean, he came out in three holding penalties and it's like, well, you can't play football for me anymore. Assignments. I mean, Romandre was terrible in week one. So just against the Las Vegas

Raiders, he had 10 opportunities. He was seven for 15 on the ground and he caught two passes for 12 yards. Makes you wonder if the Raiders run defense might be after what we saw last night. Yeah, possible. Maybe they're pretty good. Possible. But I'm saying like for your surprise, Andy, for Romandre, he had the exact same amount of snaps. And he was. barrage in week one. Yeah, but no starting running back should not be rostered. Exactly. It's insane.

I mean, it's like, Remandre Stevenson is getting starter, snaps and carries, and it's like, you have to put that on your roster. We're sitting here. I mean, I know. Bachel Tutin is not available in the leagues I'm playing. Caleb Johnson is not available in the leagues I'm playing, and they weren't playing. Like, Ramandre is the starting running back for the Patriots. He has to be rostered everywhere.

So those are, I mean, Baychal Tudin, who was, he looked the part to me. Yes. 8 for 42 on the ground had the reception for the touchdown Bayeshal Tudin is available in more leagues he is the running back for Jacksonville they got rid of Teng Bigsby seems like they were very smart to do so

because Tudin doesn't seem any me seems like he's got juice and he does for sure those are the two guys for me Travis E TN looked really good in week one looked really good in week two so maybe he's back to what he was two years ago but when you are targeting some of these backups

you know last year you brought this up Mike the reason that you really liked Bucky Irving was because you did not believe in Rashad White. Rashad White was a fine football player, but he wasn't really that explosive, efficient player. And I would not be surprised if as the season

goes along, all of a sudden Travis E.T.N. kind of reveal yourself. And he's not quite as great as he's been these first two weeks. If you need short-term help, Ramandre Stevenson plays Pittsburgh next week who through two weeks looks just

awful against running backs. followed up by Carolina. So I think my short term, I just need some, I need a Band-Aid right now. I don't mind going after Romandre. He's probably going to be cheaper compared to Tootin. And Tootin is like a longer-term view of, you can't start him yet. But I agree with Jason of by the halfway point of the season, it's possible that both ETIN and Tootin are very startable.

Yeah, I think Tutin can be started workload-wise, But matchups are tough coming up with Houston and Kansas City, two of the next three. What's really difficult is that I don't have a lot of lower roster names at running back that I'm excited about making it all the more emphatic why Vermontery needs to be rostered. Because Trey Benson is, you know, he's getting work in Arizona. It's not a ton, but he looks good. He'd be another name. Six targets is pretty great. The only other couple names that I even think on my list, and you guys can name others that you might have interest in,

you know, you want to see what Chris Rodriguez's involvement is in Washington in week three. Okay, that's interesting. Maybe he's not rostered. To me, he's a big name. Chris Rodriguez, you know, obviously. It's hard to go from healthy scratch. Absolutely. But what helps that is, how dare you?

How dare you? And they have, I mean, it could be McNichols more involved in Rodriguez, and they have, yeah, I mean, that's a not rostered name. Yeah, those two guys, Chris Rodriguez Jr. and Jeremy McNichols, I don't. believe that they're going to give 100% of workload to Bill, in which case, one of those guys will be relevant and they're widely available. So, Mike, do you have anybody else who you want to surface? I mean, I... Yes, I did. A name, it's the waiver wire. It's gross, but Tyler Al Jir is getting work. I know he looked particularly good this past week and then was kind of

salting the game away against Minnesota. But, I mean, week one, he had just as many carries as Bijon Robinson week two he had 16 carries so he he's not someone like it'll be really really high variance but they do seem to trust him when they get inside the goal line to much to the chagrin of all of us who have Bijan you're like oh hey look who's out there again it's Tyler Algier so it's a it's a desperation play but he at least gets volume and gets some carries near the goal line also when we're looking at the insurance options Blake Corm and Miles Sanders are guys who are widely available

that should 100% be rostered. You cannot make me roster Miles Sanders. I actually think he's one of the better insurance back options because should something happen to Javante, I think it would be just him. Yeah, with the healthy

scratch of Jaden Blue. We also, you know, the big drop candidates, somehow they're rookies. I would let Caleb Johnson go personally. I would too. But Harvey Henderson, Hampton, they need to be rostered. Pachaco, I wouldn't cut because it's the same principle as Ramandre. A starting running back should not be cut.

But I don't think you play him right now. It's just, look, players get hurt every week. Yeah, and people are asking about Aaron Jones. That's another you don't get rid of Aaron Jones, even though he's going to miss this week. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And he had a great week one. So, all right, we'll take a break. We'll talk about some wide receiver options.

All right, let's talk about some wide receiver pickups. We talked about the big game from, you know, one of the few rookies playing well right now. Alec Iow Manor, who was four for 56 in a touchdown, still only rostered in 28% of leagues. I still believe he's a good pickup. Who's at the tippy top of your list this week, though? We have opportunities calling for Romeo Dobbs with Jaden Reed being out. At the tippy top, I don't know that there's a clear number one. The two guys that I would want the most are Romeo Dobbs and Troy Franklin,

who Franklin has been, yes, hit the button, Jason. Like six targets in week one, it's four for 44. That's, you know, whatever. But then you get the eight for 89, including a big playoff, and that's off of nine targets. 83% of snaps, which is not what we've seen. That's his career high so far. it's and Sean Payton Sean Payton tricks us all the time

so next week could come out and it could be oh Marvin Mims is playing 80% of the snaps that's in the range of outcomes so I'm not going like super hard after Troy Franklin but he's just him and Romeo Dobbs are my top I don't go ahead those are my top two guys at the wide receiver position

I think maybe it should be Wondale Wondale is in the discussion with all these guys he's playing a full allotment of snaps of getting a ton of target? You know what his target pace is? Take a guess. You're a good guesser. I'm going to guess 140. 153.

Okay. Terrible guess. No, Wondale, I mean, he's unroastered in most leagues. He got shamefully and I apologize. His name did not come up somehow in the studs on Monday. And that is not okay for a player that was eight for 142 in a touchdown. He was one of the best studs

of the entire week and you still have Russell and Russell will throw it. The really cool thing was they threw it to him this last game at least on the other side of the line of scrimmage. 320 plus yard receptions which

that matches his career total. Well yeah because usually he just is a jitterbug behind the line of scrimmage and they give him the ball and he doesn't break a tackle and he gets a bunch of targets and receptions for no yards. Let the guy run down the field and then throw him the ball. It was great to see. Do you realize, I mean, we did not intentionally watch the Giants last year,

and it was really just for our own health. Do you know what his numbers were last year? Yeah, it was. Do you realize how many catches and targets he had? The amount of receptions with the amount of yards was Kyle could probably both the stat. 93 catches. It was historically low. 140 targets, but 7.5 a catch.

Under 700 yards. It's insane, though, to have, like, anytime you have those kind of tar. targets. Like, you have the opportunity of having a big game. And to me, he's probably my number one pickup because of the passing volume I saw from Russell Wilson. I, you know, you can talk about- Chargers is next. I like Io Manor. Sure. But it's like Cam Ward's going to have, like, they're going to manage his past attempts quite a bit. You know, I like Ile Manor a lot as a talent. I really don't like him as a pickup personally. I don't, I don't trust Cam Ward over the next six, seven weeks from, like in Dynasty, I think it's a wonderful asset, but he scares me more than

a lot of these other guys. I'd much rather have Wondell Robinson. Sedrick Tillman is another name who's available in half of your leagues. I know he caught the most ridiculous touchdown that was not to him. It was to a defender. He got lucky, but he's still on the field and getting a lot of targets. Yeah, the other names, you know, Mooney, not heavily involved. I don't really like the passing game in Atlanta right now. So I thought I'd be like all over Mooney as a top pickup this week. I don't feel that way at all with Drake London and with

Kyle Pitts and with how little they're letting. I mean, Michael Panix is under 150 yards passing. Yeah, this past week but week one they were chucking it. So I don't know that we have a true definitive look at what they're going to look like. Yeah, the Falcons really feel like we're still gathering data on them.

Donald Mooney, though, is heavily rostered. Would you drop him for Wondale? Would you drop him for Franklin? Would you drop him for Tillman. Would you drop him for Dobbs? I O'Manor. That's kind of like If you're making a transition for upside play, like I, for some reason

I don't see Mooney as that kind of upside. I don't think I would make that play. I see him in the same tier as those guys, and then you've got to spend fab to go sideways to him. And then with Romeo Dobbs, because of the Jaden Reed collarbone injury, where he will be out for a very long time. Dantavian Wix

Hans team superstar. He had six targets. He was four for 44. I mean, if you remember how the flow of the game went this past week, Wix got targets early. And then his rate in the slot went up because of the Jaden Reed injury. So

while Dobbs is just Dobbs is at the top because he's the most secure number one wide receiver that the Greenby of Packers have, he's always out there. But Wix is an upside play who is very available and he's going to be stepping into a more full-time role. Is it possible that DeAndre Hopkins can get only two targets and a touchdown every single week this year? If you want

to chase it, feel free. Yeah, he's, um, week one, two targets, two receptions, one touchdown. Week two, two targets, two receptions, one touchdown. He's still good at the competitive catch universe. Sure, but that's his. But for that logic, why would you not go get DeVontes Walker, who I believe was, that's true, was two for two. Two. That's right. I think he has three targets on the season and three touchdowns? No, I think no. Is it just the two? No, it's just two targets this past week.

Are you guys, are you guys, are you chasing Tyquan Thornton? No. Well, let me ask you, Andy. Yeah. Is he getting a touchdown this week? I need to know. No, probably not. Okay. All right, no. We'll wait and pick a different player this week or maybe just live on that for a few weeks.

Stefan Diggs, would you drop Diggs? The hard part about them is like... I don't know. I would drop Diggs for most of the players we're talking about. Iommanner? Wondale? Wondale, I would. He went from 41% to 52%.

I think I'm holding on to Dix. I think so too. I mean, Booty only had one catch and one target. I have... So in my league of record team, Stefan Diggs is like my most dropable player you know i mean i had higher draft capital so it was it's harder to find someone to drop and i look at it i just i don't know i was talking to kyle about it of like is he just a guy that we're

going to hold on to the whole year waiting for it to happen or is it like two weeks the snaps going up that's very encouraging because it it was going to take time it always takes guys time to come back from an ACL the fact that he was ready week one was a bit surprising to me But it was only 41% of the snaps. With the work going up, I think I'll hold him for one more week. If we can get up into the 60s next week, then you're going to be happy that you held on to him. Some people asking about dropping Matthew Golden, I would not do that. No, no way.

This is, again, he's another one of the rookies that hasn't made a big splash yet, but opportunity is knocking for Green Bay right now. The passing game, they're taking lots of shots. They're taking shots to Golden, yeah. Yeah, it's just, you got a, Matthew Golden right now is looking like the Jameson Williams of the Packers. It's not going to be. It's low variance, or low hit rate, I should say. High variance, yeah. Yes.

And there is a weekly targets per outrun report by AJ Passman on the website. You can check that out. We will turn the page here. We'll look at tight ends. Joanne Johnson's still not rostered in 50% of leagues. I tried to tell you people. Yeah, unfortunately, I play with Mike in most of my leagues. So he is heavily rostered.

By Mike. By Mike. Yeah. The targets are what are encouraging, and he could have caught two more of them and would have been seven for, you know, 65 in a touchdown, and we'd be talking even more about him. He has 20 targets right now through two weeks. He is, he's my number one pickup of the week. Of all players? Yes.

I don't blame you. The tight-end position people are in need, and he looks like a very high floor type of. With ceiling. I mean, the, you know, week one, he had a great stat line and he barely missed a touchdown right at the end of the game. It's the utilization that we're chasing here with Juan Johnson, because if he gets used like this, he will be a top five tight end at the end of the year. I am very curious about what, because Spencer Rattler, I would say, has played better than expected. Yes, he has. But I am curious when they go on the road the next couple of weeks, how that adjustment takes place.

they did get to play at home for the first two weeks. They go to Seattle, go to Buffalo. I'm a little, you know, it doesn't change anything about whether he's a top pickup. He is my top tight-in pickup. He's number four on my list. I'd pick up Remandre, Tutin, and Wondale ahead of him. But if you need a tight end, obviously he's the highest priority.

If he is gone, the name that I want to throw out there is Jetavian Sanders. Getavian Sanders is a second year, very athletic tight-end, who last year, if you don't remember how the season went in his rookie season, he started to break out with Bryce Young. When Bryce Young came back, he had a stretch before he got, it was a neck injury, about week 13. Yeah, week 13, he got his neck injured. But right up until that point, he was breaking out.

He was looking good, especially for a rookie, gets injured, doesn't do much the rest of the time. And now, look, Xavier Legate. I was going to ask, is this for Gertavis? I don't actually buy this past week for Sanders at all. So it's a question. Do you know what is past attempts for it for Bryce Young? This was a garbage second half. So I, he still only played 60s. He's going to get a lot of those. He still only played 60% of the snaps.

I'm not saying that you can't bring the name up. Of course. I think that. I don't believe in this last week. The potential for a year to breakout that they like they need, you know, coming into this season, it seemed like they've got a lot of, they got a lot of weapons. They got Adam Thielin. They've got second year Xavier Leggett. They've got Tedaroa McMillan. Now it's like, Now it's like they've got Tett. There's a space. He's that dude. And Hunter Renfro. And right. It's like Renfro and they need someone else to step up.

And Jetavian is a very athletic great. No, it's a good. Whenever there's a young tight end that you can bring up that has opportunity to breakout, it's a lot more exciting than the guy that I'd pick up ahead of him. Zach Ertz. Which is Zachert. Yeah. Because I think Zacherts, even with if mobility for Jayden Daniels goes down, I think this is going to be the safety blanket for this team for weeks. But I think the worry is if there's potential that J. Daniels doesn't play this week. Obviously, you're not going to play Ertz with a backup.

But I like Hertz right behind John Johnson myself. Britton Strange is still in the mix. And, you know, if you want to drop Mark Andrews, Mike, what do you say to that person? You say, goodbye! Evan Ingram? Goodbye. Colston Loveland. Oh, goodbye.

Yeah. On the defensive side, Atlanta. and what are these teams doing what are these no no it's hold on what are these teams doing that Colston Loveland the number 10 overall pick and then

a few picks later is Tyler Warren both elite tight end prospects one guy Tyler Warren they just they were like right away he was our first round pick we should get him acclimated and see what he can do and it's it's

is it Loveland Mike I was about to read that tweet to you, but then you made the strong counterpoint of Tyler Warren's involvement. Of all people on this planet, two weeks into 2025? Dude, you got to look at that dog meter, okay, because. Oh, yeah, okay, and that's fair. Warren's got it. Yeah, oh, he does.

My issue with Loveland coming in was like, he never broke. He's a good athlete, but he's never broke a tackle on his life. I'm a check the tape. Yeah. I will return. Go look. I'm going to tell you if he needs to go to the kitty kennel. He's being banished there right now by his coach.

I was going to say, I'm really, you know, Colt commets a really good player. He is. The Colts have, they've got one other tight-in. Let's see if we still have a drop for him. Oh, yeah. They still have Gigantor, but Tyler Warren is heavily involved, and they're playing, you know, they're playing much better football. And so, in it could be, it's two weeks.

It's two weeks. Leveland was hurt during the off-season process. It's frustrating to see a guy drafted ahead to Ben Johnson of Tyler Warren, and they can't figure out how to get it going. Well, he's very possible. He's called a lot of plays for him, and then Caleb Williams has just not listened. Very possible, too. Defensively, Atlanta plays Carolina.

Atlanta is their defensive front right now. They were putting so much pressure on the quarterback in that game this past Sunday night, and they play Carolina, and Bryce Young is going to make mistakes. stakes. He's been making them for two weeks. Arizona had a defensive score against him. They had an interception, and Atlanta probably won't be dumb enough to play, what, 55 attempt, prevent defense from the second quarter on.

Tampa plays the Jets and maybe a backup quarterback. It's tough in the streams for the quarterback, but there are some really good... Tough in the streams. There are some good DST options. Seattle plays New Orleans and Spencer Rattler, and they get to do it at home, and their defense is pretty good. so Seattle looks mighty nice. Arizona, who's been a pretty good defense, minus that second half of stupidity.

They play San Francisco and Mack Jones, so I don't know how confident you feel there, but if you've, I'm okay with it. If you drafted Arizona and you've played them through two weeks, do you just keep riding? You've been pretty happy, but I think you should always be looking every single week. Like, for instance, if you drafted Arizona and you're happy with them, they've put up good points last week and the Falcons are sitting out there, I would much rather pick up the Falcons or just get more points. for my team this week. I would play the Falcons against the Panthers, the Bucks against the

Jets, the Seahawks, Saints. Colts are playing Cam Ward, and then the Chargers are I'm not scared of Denver's offense as of right now, so I would I'd be happy to play the Chargers against them. Yeah, the Chargers defense just looks outstanding in a divisional matchup, I'm fine with that. It is a very good week

for streaming defenses. All right, that was this week's WaverWire presented by Walmart, who knew you could get what you need in as fast as an hour. Get free delivery on your first express delivery order with Code Express, valid for first express delivery order, $50 minimum, subject to availability, restrictions apply. We'll take a break and we'll jump into quarterback streaming options as soon as I find this button. All right, Mike said it. It's tough in the stream, so we're going to try anyways. Jason's got the top guy

So we'll let him I got two guys Because it's tough I'm going to throw a second one in there But the main guy you're talking about That we do not have listed Correct okay The main guy is Daniel Jones

I mean this is It's a trap This is what it feels like We have not I will say this We have recommended Daniel Jones In the streaming segment Multiple times in the past

Yes he has the wheels to always have a good fantasy day. Going on the road against Tennessee, it's a good matchup. The Colts are still the only team that haven't punted the ball through two games, and he's looking great.

He's playing like he was drafted to be great at number six overall. Only Lamar is averaging a higher fantasy points per dropback. Right now they're three and a half point road favorites. He's the guy. Per jockstrap. Yeah, the other name I just want to throw out there

because, look, Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold played pretty. well, he is on your waivers. Yeah, he is. Especially after a bad week. At home. A bad week one at home against the Saints. You know, it's like... That sounds pretty good. Yeah, seven and a half point favorites. Yeah, seven and a half point favorites. It's going to be a fine. I don't mind that one at all.

It's funny because Sam Donald's my stream of the week, actually. Oh. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, I was like, I did not see that. No, mine is a bit of a... Mine is a bit of a... No, mine's not nasty, Mike. Oh, you're going with this one? Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah, because I, look, nobody, people drafted their starters.

Yeah. Jason brought up Justin Herbert last week in the streaming section. He has more rostered than he used to be. But he's sitting on people's benches and you're having to make decisions between Kyler Murray and Justin Herbert. You're having to make decisions between Drake May and Justin Herbert. I'm not. This conversation, you're not making those decisions?

I'm not making any decision when Justin Herbert's there. It's an auto decision. Dude, he is going to, he is awesome. He's going to, he is so good. He's always been awesome. so good. Yeah, but he's got weapons. That's his whole career. He's been awesome and so good. He's got weapons, man. He's, oh, I love

them. They're number one in pass rate over expectation through two weeks. This is the, he's your starter conversation. And I think that that matters because if you picked them up, you're still making a streaming decision, even if he's rostered. You still have to decide over Kyler. You still have to decide over those other players.

Daniel Jones, those other guys that you have on your roster. So to me, I want to endorse Justin Herbert as, hey, the way the offense is running, this is not a fluky multi-touchdown performance. This is a pattern and a way the offense is functioning. So

the bonus nasty would be Mack Jones. Yeah, there we go. Mack Jones had a really good week and I'm going to tell you. He didn't look like he knew what the game of football, the rules or how to play through the first quarter. Like he looked confused and scared. Like if you put a small child in the pocket at quarterback, he looked that way.

He looked skittish and weird. And then all of a sudden you look up and Mac Jones is delivering the ball to the corner of the end zone to Christian McCaffrey across the middle to Joanne Jennings. So unfortunately he's just and a throw in Arizona's secondary got depleted. Not just their secondary. They're their defensive line guy injured too. They lost, I was going to say

part of the end of the game four guys. Yes, part of the end of the game against the Carolina Panthers was they played vanilla like almost prevent defense and it was awful but part of it was they lost like four starting defensive of players during that game. 39 pass attempts for Mac Jones, 279 yards and three touchdowns and no picks. And so he did fumble twice.

That explains the dancing in the pocket. But he is an option. All right. Let's keep it going. Carson Wentz. Oh, yeah, baby. Carson, we are so back. I'm not going to do it.

Okay, look, this is that offensive line. This is for which, yeah, there was a report that their left tackle was probably not going to be back. This is just, look, this is, I told it's really really difficult. Is this the whole underpants? It's a situation? Oh, I don't have my buttons. Oh, man. Where's my button? You don't have your underpants? Somebody finds the underpants? This is the

highest level. Give me the unobtainiums, please. We need Mike to have his underpants at all times. Seriously, that would be really important for us sitting near him. That's a failure on my part. Can you find it? I will get that fixed. All right, I'll be talking. Get it fixed or hit the button. Hey, Jeremy, hit it. Jeremy. I don't have

it in my board either, but I'll get it. Just keep talking. All the underpants are missing? Oh, man. Well, he's heard what I said about the pants. Which ones did you want? The highest level. Put them on.

Unobanium. Thank you. Unobtanium underpants. Thank you. I forgot about the graphic. I'm not sure I wanted that as much as I thought I did. This, because, look, the whole section is about streaming. I'm trying to find someone who you could play off your waiver wire because things went

bad for you or you're in a deep league. Carson Wentz. Kevin O'Connell, the first two stars for J.J. McCarthy have not been good. Historically, everyone else that Kevin O'Connell has put out there has produced. And the great news, we are playing against the Cincinnati Bengals defense. So they have allowed the fifth most passing yards per game. And Carson Wentz, he can't run a little bit. So we got a little bit of that cheat code built in. Again, this is the nastiest of the nastyest of the nasty play, but the peripherals make sense to me that Carson Wentz can come in here and give you 250 and 2 and maybe 30 on the ground. Okay. The underpants, they're on. Would you, would you just drop Burrow, McCarthy, Purdy? I mean, none of them really feel like

months old. Yeah, I mean, context, of course. Purdy and McCarthy were already streamers. Those were guys where if you need to drop him to pick someone up you can they're injured so i'm fine dropping them joe burrow i you almost you basically have to drop him but yeah that is so sad it is very sad i honest i'd probably put him into my i r until i'm forced right that i got other players that you're like i have to hold these players i'll see you later joe burrow i just i traded burrow last week and i genuinely feel that you you were the fantasy reaper in mass because it wasn't just borough it was the borough chase stack and you got paid and while chase is not going to disappear he's not going to disappear you don't feel bad i mean i feel good as well yeah but i feel a little

bad you're putting on a show this is a facade we see right through you i don't believe in for a moment i feel bad i feel bad and in lucky i would that's usually usually when people feel lucky before you know what the first time i've ever been in the in the the bulls documentary in the thornton one The Bulls documentary where the old guy is playing the throw the coin against when he's playing against Jordan. Yeah, yeah, that's it. You feel bad like that. Sorry. Your problem, not mine.

But the other person was laboring. They were laboring for so long on whether they'd accept that trade. And they wanted to pull the trigger. They're like, oh, gosh, Burrow Chase. Hey. Things happen. You go risky maneuvers. I mean, you play to win.

I love that. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. that's uh but i don't feel bad for his team all right uh let's take a couple minutes here and let's jump into the mailbag which i have a button for that too i know i do the buttons are everywhere mailbag maybe everything's in storage all the underpants they're well are they in like a digital

bureau he heard me he heard me talking about just how the pants store is out of business but Jeremy the underpants store is very much in business it's even more important when the pants store is out of it. We aren't Winnie the poo in this. No this. No Donald Duck over here. My apologies to you and the footclay. We're just we're free. We're free from the shackles of the pants from the pants. Yes. But we are still hiding our street legal. Street legal is Mike said. Thank you. Um, all right. If you have a question for the show, go to the website the fantasy footballers.com. You can also dial our voice. Hotline 302464 TFFB.

We're going to answer a few questions here. Caleb in Wisconsin said Matthew Golden was dropped in my league. How much fab would you spend to pick him up? I have the receiver depth for him to sit on my bench until he breaks out. Let's say a number out of 100 fab. Okay. At the same time and see if we're in agreement. All right.

Three, two, one, ten. Oh, you both went twenty, twenty-one. I went ten. Yeah, I think in that range, ten to twenty-one. Oh, okay. a five to ten defense but we can go big fab gaps no you know this is

a rookie who had such high draft capital on a good offense with injuries and opportunity around him you've got to take the shot on those type of players it might not work but there's too many flags that you aim for too many checkboxes for you to just ignore it

hags in pentiluma California oh that sounds darn near like a bono on shore. That is, there's no way that's in California. I've never heard of that. Is now the right time to trade away Javante Williams?

If so, what would you try to give for him? It did pop into my head when we were talking about the rookies. The idea of crafting and you need more than the two pieces because you wouldn't want to draw so much attention to it. But that's how I think about the trade, right? Yeah. You talked about Gentie. Oh, look, Javante's in there.

But Javante's like the number two running back on the season. and Gentie is your big frustration player. If you could work a few other pieces in there, some picks and a couple players. I wonder. I bet you could do it. There are certainly leagues where you could trade, not every league, but you could trade Giovante for Hampton. What are the odds, though, that Giovante, because of the success so far, the lack of depth

behind him, the fact he's been so good, is what's the chances he ends the top 10 running back and we're sitting here going, well, that was dumb? I think there is a, certainly a greater than zero percent chance that he ends the year, the whole year as very, very successful. I would caution one thing, which is over the next six weeks, their center is injured. And that is a big deal for a guy who, Javante has looked pretty good. He's looked strong, but he gets what's given to him. He's not really like a creative on his own type of guy. So if that, you know, this seems like the sell high moment, but also hear what I am saying.

Oh, okay. Okay. Hold on. Sell high. Don't just be like I can get something for Giovante. You have something for Giovante. Javante has value. So if you're going to sell him, sell him high. Hear what I am saying. Can we bring that into the fold? Would you trade Chase Brown for Canada Walker? Naps in Utah. Naps has a question. question for us. Chase Brown for Ken Bone Walker. No, it's... I was wondering where you would be on a buy of Ken Bone Walker right now. Because there's going to be the sell high people. Sure.

I think I'm, Ken Walker, my value on him is basically like his ADP, where he was drafted. So I think he is net neutral. Chase Brown did take a hit in value because of Burrow, but he still was getting all the work

and I think Chase Brown will be okay. He has juice and he's getting everything. Yeah, you know, I, the Bengals aren't, the Bengals are not going to go to zero here. They have a lot of skill position players, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, Chase, Chase, Chase, Chase, Chase Brown. They're going to make Jake Browning. Also, I, you will disagree. They're well coached.

Very well coached. Right. The Bengals? No, that's, yeah, right. I do disagree. The Bengals are very well coached. Jake Browning's success. in the past shows me that too. Yeah, and Jake Browning is a decent backup option. So

Chase Brown's not, you know, going to become some irrelevant back. I did try to make a couple trade offers. You'd be happy for Ken Bone after week one, but I didn't get him to go through. They must have been real bad. Yeah, well, I was hoping that Ken Bone's not playing football and being bad at week one was more impactful. All right, James G. This question, probably going to get answered by Jason as well. I'm seriously considering trading A.J. Brown for a mecca abuka redraft league is this a dumb trade on my part please advise and i want to know the answer i will start it by saying i got a tweet this morning of someone saying uh so i was just offered justin jefferson for a mecca abuca and like is it weird that i'm hesitating

hesitating and i'm i'm like it's probably not that weird with the quarterback situation it's not weird that you're hesitating i would still immediately go do it um big because Abuka's got three touchdowns. I mean, he did, he was not very involved. No. And like I said, an illegal touchdown. Someone was sweating out of America. Yeah, it was.

And what happened on it? I didn't see it. The offensive lineman goes out to block. Oh, I saw him. And whiffs the block, but clearly throws the leg to trip. Oh. And like so much that when they came back from commercial, they're like, they go to the rules expert and like, yeah, that was a trip.

That should have been called. Man. Yeah. But I would. Okay, so did Jason. Would you trade AJ Brown? I love a mecca, Buka. He's my guy. He's playing 93% of snaps. He's still only about 20% of the target share,

which is, I would hope he was more like 25% target share. 29 yards last week. I love him. I think he's good. I like the passing attack, but he is not A.J. Brown. I would still rather have the A.J. Brown side. So if you could trade a boo. for A.J. Brown. What did you say, Al? I bet you could. I said if I had a Buka, I don't think I

could trade him right now for A.J. Brown. That's the hard part about trades, man. Especially if you're just doing a one-for-one positional trade, there will be a winner and a loser of the trade. And the emotional attachment to the success that he's had so far this season is just hard. Like I said, people are hesitating to trade just or to get Justin's form. Well, I mean, think about this. There are, you know, that question absolutely would have come up two weeks into Brian Thomas Jr. last year. Would you trade Brian Thomas Jr. for AJ Brown last year? I mean, I think 100% of people would say that would have been a good decision. In last year's instance, it would not have been. It would have been better to have Brian Thomas Jr. Probably better to have

Malik neighbors, you know. There are, I think the biggest question for me with Abuka is, you know, if you're not like in the target share now, now he's going to grow. He's going to become, you know, more connected with Baker, but you will get Godwin back, but you will get Worf's back as well. And I think that's going to help this offense a lot. Like there are people worried about Bucky. And I'm like, to me, that's crazy. That is crazy. Because of Rashad, why having a good game and scoring and, you know, look, Tristan Worf is going to make a humongous difference in this offense.

Huge. And it could be as soon as next week. So that's going to help them all together. If I, you know, I'm certainly a believer in Baker as well with those weapons coming back. So if there's a chance to go get Baker, I would do it. All right, that is going to do it for today's show. We have Unsolved Mysteries tomorrow and a Thursday night preview. Starts of the week.

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