Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 4 Studs & Duds + Jason Goes Full Tilt - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/29

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Sep 29, 2025. Fantasy football studs, duds, and reactions from Week 4! Find out which players are worth hitting the panic alarm over! Plus, injury updates, and early advice for fantasy football managers entering Week 5. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(02:55) Monday Punday(06:15) NFL News(16:30) Fantasy Studmuffins(17:50) QB Studs(26:05) RB Studs(33:10) WR Studs(38:30) TE Studs(39:55) Fantasy Duds(40:00) QB Duds(44:05) RB Duds(50:15) WR Duds(01:00:30) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. I don't know why, but it's going to be a great day. I'm doing all right. Andy, how are you doing? I'm fine. Neutral? Yeah, but about neutral. Monday, September 29th, Jason hasn't spoken yet.

Jason is in a mood, my friends. I am not. I am not. happy. Like, we're a family-friendly show, but we might not be today. This is a real, this is a, this is a real issue. I was, uh, looking through the Monday pundas. And I was like, I don't think I'm going to be allowed to talk on today's episode. I am, it was like, you're going to, Jeremy, you got that bleep button over there. Jason is, I'll do it in post. I mean, we're 11 years into the show and when a weekend goes bad it's just as unnerving and upsetting as it was in day one Jason so I will say this I I come in today thinking knowing feeling that like I jean I have a genuine

hatred for fantasy football like I don't like it I decided I'm not going to speak on today's show due to hating fantasy football thank you for your consideration no more questions at this time. 8.10 this morning. Public statement from Jason's team. I will admit this, though. The feelings I have inside myself, which are incalculable, prove that I love this game. I have such a strong passion and care so much that I want to

carve it out of my life like a cancer. I just want to be like, get rid of this stupid game. but you can't want to rip my head off Jason was in a bad place and then right before the show started he chugged about 200 milligrams of caffeine and threw the can across the room

into the garbage can swished. Yeah well he is we've made an agreement with Jason Monday Punday includes the good and the bad yeah we are Mike and I'll handle the good today Jason's gonna handle I don't have that kind of life inside he he's going to

handle all of the bad puns for today. Mike, let's kick this thing off. Why don't you start it? It's my guy. Romeo Dubs. Romeo Duds. Oh, marry me, Hampton. Kenneth gained well.

I like this one. Ashton, Ashton Plenty. Nice. We got Amon-Raw-Saint touchdown. And Super Nakuwa. How about this one, Jason? Deck.

Great Scott. Travis. He's on your rock. Scott. You have him. He's there for you, man. He's not talking during this section. Travis E.T.N. Zone. Okay. Ameca. Boomshakalaka. We've probably done that one.

Yeah. And Winshan Judkins. All right. Here we go, baby. How about Sad McCunky? Yeah. You like that? Yeah. Sham Leporta. Zach Hertz.

Broke. Bowers. You turd. Pat Friar goose. T.J. Hawkins sit. Yeah, careful. I would have set a different one. Beeshaal pooping. You turd. A.J. Brown frown.

A.J. Clown. I hate you. And DJ poor. Yeah. We're done. This game's so stupid. It's your career. Why do I do this? It's a real conundrum.

Oh man That was a little cathartic It was a little cathartic Whenever The AJ Brown one in particular Seemed to really touch a nerve or two I mean look He was my trade away candidate

Right I told people last week Trade him He had a great game He looked like that dude I tried so hard The problem is Everybody in our league listens to the show

Where I said I don't believe in him And I got him on a roster That does make it hard I was I tried so hard to get Sengenti. So hard this week. But you were saying a trade for candidate. I tried to trade for Josh

Jacobs, who was my trade for candidate? You didn't try hard enough. You could have come at me last week and said, I'll give you AJ Brown for D.K. Metcalf. And I would have been like, oh, thank God. Please take it. I should have done that. You're right. Yeah. And now, hey, ask me if you want me. You should have gone after Marvin Harrison.

Yeah. Yeah, I would have made that trade too. But ask me if I'll trade Metcalf for A.J. Brown. No. I'll make a no well prove it just send me that offer and i will decline it no i'm the one no no just send it and then i'll decline it to know that you won't do that trade thank you for your monday pundays over on instagram aunt fantasy footballers acts at the f f fowlers oh we uh wild weekend because like a lot of a lot of big boy performances this week yeah i had the unfortunate pleasure of facing mike in our league of record

my team actually had a good week. And my team was just okay. Yeah, I know. You just okay with that roster is, well, it was more than enough to beat me. Shout out to the Detroit Lions. Unless Cortland-Siton and Bo Nix run into each other on the first play of the game, knocking each other out of the game, you're going to beat me. So let's talk some news.

We had big news as well. News and notes from Around the League, presented by progressive insurance. We started Sunday in Dublin. Oh, my gosh. And we ended without a dub at all in a tie last night. Oh, nice. How long have you been planning to say that line? I was actually...

You didn't come up with that. I was just working it through in my head. I'm like, Dad, maybe I'll get made fun of. No, no. I'm acquit. Jalen Warren was the surprise unavailable. Which is fine if you're on the East Coast. Yeah.

But I'm telling you. you, that is, that's wildly unacceptable. Like, for West Coast people, you wake up at 7 a.m. and you're like, wait, the guy that was trending to be fine. Like, I know there was, there was some question. Yeah, you had to at least check. You had to at least check. Which I did. I have jailed and Warren in multiple spots. I had my alarm for, alarm set for six. It went off. I cursed the sky. I shook my fist. I was like, oh, why am I doing? I'm just going to go back to sleep. I better check Twitter. Did Jalen Warren out?

And it was like, oh, no. When I, you see, you were, you were what, you were smart. You were responsible. There was a call up of another running back on Saturday. But they had done that last week. They had the previous week. But we flagged it and it was like, hey, pay attention here. I was facing Mike.

Mike had Jalen Warren and I'll be honest. When I woke up, I hope Mike had not woken up. That was all I hoped. I was like, and then I went and looked at your lineup and was like, Dress! I saw leagues where Jalen Warren was started and that's one of those where like. How many did he score? You can't, he scored nothing. He scored barely less than Caleb Johnson.

And the thing is, is like, you can't blame the manager for that. I mean, if you're on the West Coast. Like, you thought he was going to be active. He was a great play. Clearly. Yeah, I mean, look at what Kenneth Gainwell did. And then these international games are, it's like unfair to the West Coast. It wasn't as bad as the Melvin Gordon situation.

If people recall this one, this was a. few years ago, because there was nothing. Nothing. And then he was a surprise. And all of a sudden it was, oh, Melvin Gordon's a surprise inactive. So we got really bad news on Sunday morning. Oh, yeah. MetLife took another life. Yeah, did.

Oh, goodness. Malik neighbors tore his ACL and yesterday's win over the Chargers. Ooh. It really put a damper on what was an amazing debut by Jackson Dart and good performance by Cam Scataboo and the third member of the, uh, the Trinity. went down and now we'll be out for the rest of the season. Man, that stinks. Yeah, I mean,

there are a number of players where the league's just better when they're available. Yeah, we need our superstars. Joe Burrow and Malik neighbors now. It's a bummer. And you did, even without neighbors, though, your almost upset was a full upset. It was, yeah.

Yeah, which some people really really blamed me for that, like Chargers fans. Well, I, they, felt like I had a real hand in that. I understand it because they assume that you are creating it and they don't realize that you've foreseen it. I think I'm a witch. No, yeah, I just saw it. You just foresaw it. I didn't make it. Yeah. Yeah. I also didn't foresee a golden touch thing. A lot of people on the internet have no idea how the world functions. No, no, no, no. They do believe in

witchcraft. Um, Lamar Jackson left with a hamstring injury. Yeah. Probably, I mean, they have a week seven by next week is week five we'll see how much of an injury versus a not injury this is i'm not positive that it's major i i've heard there's hope that it's minor i've heard there's a chance that this was also a game that you know you kind of you were getting they were down they were down two scores when it happened though if i remember at least more than that yeah i swear it was like down 14. Man, I'd be surprised. Kyle, go ahead and vet that, but I think the game was pretty much we knew it was in hand. It was, it was still early enough where there's no way they just chose to like, it wasn't like, hey, maybe that's what it was just enough time of,

yeah, it was like the whole second half was left, but they were getting boat raced already. You could tell, like, the game, they were not going to come back. And so if you pull your hamstring, I think the combination, it was two T's plus, Kyle, okay. What does that mean? two TDs plus. Yeah, he didn't give us the real number. He was too quick to answer. Three scores. He said it just give us. Three scores. Okay, it was two TDs plus, right, as you say. Be careful with Jason today. Be careful, Kyle. I'll come for you, Kyle. He'll cut you like he got cut. I'll cut. Now, speaking of cut. Oh, yeah. Chubbed. Oh, no. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about I guess we never really asked how things went for you this week. It went poorly. It went poorly. It went poorly. Our Chop League.

where stupid producers keep dropping like flies. I'm going to be chopped this week. Now, unless Chase Brown scores 25 fantasy points. It's not impossible. It's impossible. It's not impossible. Joe Burroughs active? It's not impossible.

Well, if Chase Brown doesn't score... You know people get struck by lightning. It doesn't seem like it's not impossible. Players with the last name Brown aren't really working out for you. No, they're not. So assuming he does not do that, I will be chopped in our chopped league. on Sleeper.

One fewer league to worry about. Yeah. But to be fair, that's because I played... Never going to be champion now. The best defense. One less league to worry about. One less league to worry about. It's because I played the best defense in the National Football League against

a team without two offensive linemen and no CD Lamb. Did they give up 40? They did give up 40. They did give up 40 points. They gave up 40 points. And they didn't even get a win, which they didn't deserve to. At least you played DAC. well I didn't play that

I had Baker on the bench you play Dobbs I was see here's what happened I was worried about Baker because he was against this great defense of the Philadelphia Eagles the Philadelphia Eagles are really really really good yeah yeah but Baker's really good

and so going against each other I didn't know what to do I told you don't worry about Baker well I benched Baker and I put in Daniel Jones well he threw a sick touchdown to Adonai Mitchell like that 80 yard touchdown to Adonai Mitchell that wasn't a touchdown because he just dropped the ball and was like, I don't want to hold the ball.

Second time that a cult did that. To me. Both times to me. They did it again. They did it again. I don't know if I want to be on camera. We should have just Jason's cam no matter who's talking. All of your hype and Baker and my goodness, that dog.

Oh, I love Baker Mayfield. Well, he was going against Eagles. So I'm like, I'm going to play the Packers over the Eagles. So I also have the Eagles defense on that bench. because I was worried Baker could do something. So I'm just going to, you know, I'm going to play the Packers defense over there. The Eagle scored 17 points, Packers, negative three. So that's 20 points swing.

That's cool. Also, Romeo Dobbs on that bench. So I deserve, I deserve it. Chop my head off. I hate this game. Well, we'll stick with just your team. Okay. Thank you.

Ricky Pierslaw exited with the knee injury. That's not great because he was already limited and didn't practice and they play the Rams on TNF. Oh, that's a, oh, that's a bummer. Ricky Pearsall might be missing this game. I think he'll play because this looks like he's playing through a minor PCL, and that was the injury coming into the game. He talked to that awesome catch where he tried to tow-tap. He hurt himself again.

No, I know. That took him out. He banged that knee again. So it's possible on a short week that he doesn't play, but it is one of those injuries you can kind of play through. He only played 56% of snaps this week. Four for 46. Yeah.

I mean, he played up until that moment. He'd be a huge It's probably going to be a bench for me, brother Oh, I don't mind benching him at all I just think he's going to be active on Thursday But TBD All right, that was news and notes No

No You got to bring up Cedrick Tillman He left with a hamstring injury Yeah, he did Tert Okay, go on Now you can close you know

Why you got to attack the man Why he's hurt him in every line up? You really liked his two for 22 and three for 26 The previous two weeks This is on you, brother That's not No, no, no

It's on you No, it is. Not. Why are you playing him? What do you mean? You're talking about the guy who got eight targets week one. Got seven targets week two of them. Then played the Packers defense. Before this week was awesome. He was not a play. He wasn't. He wasn't to play. Oh my gosh. You're so dumb. You're so dumb. He was so not a play. It hurts. You are an idiot. And let me explain why. He had 48 yards combined in the last two weeks. So I guess.

Yes, you're right. I mean, the do was not relevant. This is a player who just... But no, we can blame the handstring. How many targets went to Jerry Judy? I genuinely don't know. It doesn't... The targets don't matter. The targets...

Oh, yeah. We always say that on... We say that all the time on this show, guys. We say, targets don't matter. Andy is famous for saying, don't pay attention to targets. Targets are irrelevant. He always looks up... At the end of every week, he looks up...

His catch rates 50%. He looks up the, you know, target... volume and he goes, not going to look at that. This means nothing. You know, your ranking said to play Dobbs. Hit the outro. Just play me out, man.

I'm about to fight. So Cedric Tillman, who some of us played, I guess, went out with a hamstring. We did say that. Dobbs is a sneaky play. Sneaky good play this week. He doesn't subscribe. That was News and No, It's sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at

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You can say as much or as little as you want. There's nothing to say. This week's fantasy stud muffins. Presented by Lowe's. Romeo Dobbs No Look We

Thought we were starting there How much of it was the guardian cap Why you didn't play him Well I didn't think you got points For having twice the head sizes Oh that's Sabian Oh he's this bigger I don't know

I don't know They have the same size guardian cap But I think Savian has a bigger helmet So it's like a bigger head He's got a bigger head It's a mic size helmet If Mike if you were in a guardian Oh man

Oh man You wouldn't be able to stand. No. That was impossible. Too top heavy. Cedric Tillman was the consensus number 51 wide receiver at our rankings. Jason likes Cedric Tillman. He wanted to play him.

Yeah. You got to play him next week? I promise you if he played 100% of snaps. The second half, all they were throwing to Jerry Judy drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, over and over and over. Cedric Tillman would have been fine. Why would they have just targeted him? They would have not just targeted it.

Jerry Judy was three for 33 on nine targets. The catch rate. Nine targets. The catch, yes, I know. That's what I said. The catch rate for both of those guys all year long. These are not good. It's been good.

These are not good targets. Anyway, Dack Prescott, very, very good at football. Who knows what happened. Top five this week. Dack, Stafford, Mahomes. The last night. The week of Jordan Love, Josh Allen. Green Bay.

I don't know what's going on of how the NFL is wild. Of the first two weeks, you looked at the Green Bay Packers and you said, that team is on their way to the Super Bowl they might be the best team in the league they might have the best defense in the league and then they go and lose to the Cleveland Browns because they can't do anything on offense and then they go against Dallas

whose defense is horrifically bad and Dallas lights them up this was a wild week and this is what makes the NFL so fun all my pain aside Andy you brought this up the middle of the day like if you can bring up some of the examples There was, you know, the... I mean, Carolina won 40 to nothing against Atlanta last week,

and they got boat race this week. Yeah, they're just completely trounced. The Saints, nobody gave them a shot. They played harder than the Bills played. And they almost beat the bill. They were in that game. They were about to go up on the Bills late in the game on a Philly special. That changed the game, turned it around a lot when Olave threw an interception.

And you, you know... Thanks for my minus two. the lavee didn't help that was on you huh no I mean first of all two weeks of the NFL season is not enough we all want it to be enough we all about three because we were going into week four okay three weeks of the NFL season but I guess I was saying too because last week the Packers had that surprise loss right so the first two weeks of the year you're like this the best team has ever played football but it's just not enough we spent the entire offseason talking about

these teams and we're like okay let's make our conclusions but that's the kind of thing that happened with Ashton Ginty and Amari and Hampton, right? The conclusions were made. But it's a couple of weeks. It's two or three weeks. Like the NFL changes and it's so interdependent. You can't, you know, the 72 win bowls or whatever, the 70 win, but I don't remember how many of the one. No one knows what you're talking about. No one knows what I'm talking about. You can't, in basketball, there's five players on the court. It's just very, very hard to surprise somebody. But in the NFL, it's 11 on 11. Yeah. Right? It's. It's just like sometimes you can play harder, a play, a turnover.

You know, it was, Dallas played really, really good football on the offensive side. They did. And it was predicated on an incredibly effective running game. Yeah, Javante was great. They kept chunking away yards on the ground, giving their passing game opportunities. And, you know, Dak looked amazing. He was, he was so good. He's been good this whole season.

Like, he really has been. The touchdowns have come on the. the ground, but like play just where he's put in the ball, his decision made. He's completing 73% of his passes. Yeah, he's been. Without CD Lamb now for a game and a half. Yeah, he's been great. So, uh, validation on your DAC excitement. Yeah, I love having them. I'm happy. I've got him on many, many, many leagues. I'm not happy I had him on many, many benches. I'm so thrilled for you to play DAC everywhere next week. Oh, he will be in 100% of my line. He will be in 100% of my lineups. Start of the week,

Dak. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? This whole episode needs like a special disclaimer. I want to put this in my neck. Oh, no, man. Put it down. We're good. We're good. You're okay. Patrick Mahomes. He was great. Quarterback six, quarterback eight, quarterback 20. QB4.

Well, he got Xavier Worthy back and we underestimated the impact that he could make. At least I did personally. I thought that Oh, same. Coming back. I did not. The reports on Worthy were so all over the place. But, I mean, it was essentially, like, in the same sense. They're like, hey, Worthy's going to play a normal amount of snaps, but we are pretty concerned about re-injury.

Wait, what? And, I mean, he played 59%. It was, you know, it turned into the blow out at the end, but five for 83. Really helping. And a couple carries for 38 yards. So I just mean of, like, for Mahomes here, what are we doing? We're just, we're a couple weeks away from him getting his actual number one.

wide receiver back. He's pretty good. Like are we... They still can't run. Is Mahomes going to be back? He was top 10 in three or four weeks where last year he was in the top 10 four times.

Yeah. He's top 12. He's top 12. Rest of season? Yeah. I just, I mean like it's start worthy. Okay. So you're not ready to be like, yeah, we're so back?

I don't know. I think Baltimore might have some real problems. Yeah. I think Baltimore is giving up eight. their defense is the problem. Yeah, they've given up a 10 of points. And also, we brought this up last week, but, you know, the last couple of years, the week after you play the Detroit Lions, seriously. I mean, they play a brand of football that takes a toll on human bodies, and the Ravens looked little shellacked. Jordan Love, 31 for 43, 3, 37, and 3, and 1 devilishly

risky attempt into the back of the end zone to Matthew Golden, that almost ran the clock out. That was horrifically bad at the end of the game by the Packers. How often, like, bad clock management happens in the NFL, because I don't know if it's just a communication challenge of just like... When you're in it, and I totally get, like, it's the game show thing, right? You can watch a game show on television, and you could think so clearly of how dumb are these people, go, go participate in one.

Yeah. Be the person who's in the hot seat, and all of a sudden your brain just turns into mush, and you're like why can't I think of these answers so I the we need I've said this for years we need the kid who plays madden up in the booth who is just like they're not emotionally locked in it they're just watching the game yeah but they know exactly what the protocol should be don't let it be a fan of your team yes no no no no no just a kid just just a teenager who's really really good at game managing you can't get in enough reps playing football exactly playing video games you get it You get in almost every game.

Well, we had problems with three different games. We had problems with the Cardinal game on Thursday. Cardinals not taking up enough time. We had problems with the basically almost repeated itself in the radar game, but the block the kick. Problems in this game for sure. But Jordan Love was very, very good. 337 and 3.

Didn't throw an interception, ran for 28 yards. We'll take a break. We'll come back and talk about some more studs. Are we done with quarterbacks? I just want to do. No, no, we're not done. We're not done. Okay.

It's just a break. Okay, good. We're getting Jason. Just take a breath. I need a break. We're getting Jason asanax. All right. All right, Mike, you can talk quarterbacks some more.

Drake May was very good this week and has been very good the last three weeks. Probably the best sophomore quarterback. Better than Bo Nix. Better than Michael Pinnock so far this year. Wait, time out without looking. Look away from your computer. How many passing attempts did Drake May have? I already saw.

Oh, all right. I bet it was 17. It was only 17. Yeah, the Panthers got whooped. But I didn't want to move off of quarterbacks without the highlighting of Jackson Dart. 13 for 20, 11 and 1. That's not special. 10 for 54 and a rushing touchdown.

And this dude, I mean, felt like it was every play. We'll see if you can, can he do this every single week and take that type of punishment. but he was calling his own number and he looked good running the ball. He's going to break himself. It didn't look a bit like that. But for the time being, he needs to learn to slide a little bit more.

But the scrambling, 10 rushing attempts. He completed 13 passes. So like 13 completions, 10 rush attempts. That is a wild. It was like, I'm going to look to throw on the ball.

Well, he lost some league neighbors in the middle. game. That didn't help. No, it did not. So we'll see. They go to New Orleans next week. We're looking at the running back position. Top five of the week, Ashton Gentie and Josh Jacobs, which... I hope you traded for them. Those were both the top two trade for candidates

this week. That window is closed. Oh, it's completely close. Yeah. Door has been locked. Bard. Yeah, I... We got lasers. Hopefully they're now on your roster. It was really, it was really a split reaction by me because I had been pushing really hard for Gentie in our League of Record.

and then he scores the first one and we're like all right trade for candidate but then I'm like yeah but I wanted one more week you're right you wanted another chance to get him one week to solidify and he went back to his um the the Jemir Gibbs stance I don't know if you knew this oh I saw that remember Chip Kelly made him not

stand the way he used to stand in college don't don't why I I'm not going to rule out that that had an effect the Chicago Bears definitely have an effect 32 but he calls bought two passes, they involved him in the receiving game? Why would you draft a guy at number four in the NFL draft and then be like, hey, the way you played in college, don't do that.

Yeah, you were at Boise State. Let's show you how you do it in the pros. If you lean over. He went six. It is, oh, I apologize. We want to be correct. Sincerely apologize. I said four. It was, it was great to see.

Is this a superpower? Because the only two players I can ever remember that just stand like that are Jemir Gibbs and Ashty. It's so weird If you if you haven't paid attention And you don't know this Go watch You don't realize how weird it is

Until you look for it And then you go Why is Jemir Gibbs just standing Like he's like Like he's just hanging out outside Of a village inn They call it right No what are they

They call it the Michael Myers Oh yes yes Because you just stand there You just have no idea I mean we were all taught Tall and dead We all learned in kindergarten Like when you go to P.E

They're like okay This is the athletic Ready position Three point stance Knees are slight lightly bent, hands on knees, ready for athletics. Pencil. Yeah.

You want to be, you want to be. Limp pencil. Do not be prepared at all. The nice thing is, though, if you do have that stance, like, let's say you have the Michael Meyer stance, no tells. No tells in your game, because you're just like completely unprepared, but it works. Josh Jacobs was awesome. Really was.

Four-for-seventy-one through the air, two touchdowns on the ground. Josh Jacobs, those Tucker Kraft. He was hurt, though. Did he, I was going to say, did he get hurt at the end of that game? He kept going in and out, something with his knee. But, I mean, Tucker Kraft, monster plays to go down right at the one. Thank you, Tucker. Yeah, yeah, Hunter Henry did one of those, too.

Yeah. That sucks. Kenneth Gainwell, third best running back on the week, Justice Hill, with the gorbogiest breakaway touchdown ever. We're listing him in here? Well, he's number four on the week. Okay. He gets listed because he was number four. Bejohn, 26.1.

So good. And got caught on another breakaway touchdown somehow. for the record he was running the fastest he had run all year on that play and still got caught. In his career? That's not great. But that's never been the Bejohn experience. Here's a real headline from the week, and it's not going to make Jason happier. It's going to make him much more unhappy than he already was.

Woody Marks, 17 for 69 and a touchdown. But also five targets, four for 50 in a touchdown. Mike brought him up a couple weeks ago, and I might have traded Jason. and Travis Hunter for Woody Marks this week. Yeah, you did. You said might, but it was real.

Yeah, I did. I did. You made the offer, and Woody Marks, I've got three good running backs, and then Woody Marks was just kind of a bench back, and I'm like, man, it's so weird to hold on to a

day three pick on a bad offense versus the number two overall pick in the NFL draft. So I took the deal, and and I traded for Travis Hunter, who is pretty irrelevant. And barely played. Did you see there were some personal stuff going on there? On the defensive side.

Well, no, he didn't play as many offensive snaps either. He was on 56% of the snaps, which is pretty much in line with what he's done the last. Which is not enough. Oh, I see. He only played wide receiver in the second half, not defense. Oh, okay. I don't know. It's weird.

the Travis Hunter stuff is weird. Oh no, it's not. It's not at all. Shane Waldron. Oh, okay. Just wait till next year. I just mean that No, no, it's very weird. Of course. I just You mortgage the future. You move up. You draft him over the other guys, which look, in the NFL draft, that's what everyone was clamoring for, everyone was calling for it. He's a unicorn.

Yeah, two for one deal. It feels like they, it feels like they just don't know how to, what to do. Well, they had a big win. And their defense was the key to that win. Their defense is good. They managed it right. Amari and Hampton. Without moving on, though, Woody Marks, the rookie running back for the Texans, is someone that really needs to be on your radar.

He's probably rostered now. We've been saying to pick him up for the next couple weeks, but he is available in enough leagues where you have to. I mean, this is a guy who he played more snaps than Nick Chubb. He has so much more to give the team than Chubb. Chubb's not going to go away. Sleeper has him listed. Let me guess.

I bet it's 50%. You want to guess, Jay? You're the guess man. Maybe less. I'm going to say 58%. 37. No, he wouldn't have been picked up. People, he wasn't a high profile running back.

That's why he was a backup waiver pick up. Yeah, Mike's been flagging it for a while and Chubb's just not, he doesn't, he doesn't have enough. When you are an aged veteran who has lost the, you've lost the sauce, you've lost the juice. and if a backup has it, those are guys that you want to put on your bench. It doesn't always work out, but that's the type of situation you want to go after. And Woody Marks is on the rise.

Hampton, CMC, Irving, James Cook, Judkins, ETN once again, huge weeks, Giovante Williams. Looks really good. Yeah. Against a really good defense. All those backs looked good. Bucky's been amazing.

James Cook, the running back one. Quinn Sean is the dude and Travis ETN genuinely looks like his own self I think he's back it's been a month now and not only has he looked good on breakaway runs with speed that he just was not showing last year would not have made that run right but the utilization of Travis ETN has you know it was like we we had some concerns I had some concerns that Tutin was going to get more and more involved and then, you know, he had 21 opportunities. We have held Liam Cohen, you know, to the fire over Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter and these other players, but he has definitely transformed Travis E.T.N to the positive player. Wide receiver studs of the week, Puka Nakua continues the onslaught on everybody. He's probably, if we redrafted today, he'd probably be the number one pick. Number one or number two. I would think so.

Puka, Pickens, Dobbs with the three touchdowns. I don't know what the Dobbs yardage was. It was not very much. Alman Rae St. touchdown continued. And then Metcalfe with the huge touchdown on the doubling game. Looking at the Metcalf line, it's disappointing to me. It seemed like in the beginning of the game, they were, they looked at what they had done with him. and said, we've got to make sure that we're getting him the ball.

It was two pretty quick receptions, and I believe the third one was the 80-yard slants to the house. And then he had two more catches in the rest of the game. Yeah, they were really playing from ahead. The defense was driving things, and then Kenny Gainwell was gaining so many first downs. It just didn't feel like it was very necessary. His utilization is frustrating.

I don't think it should be frustrating. They were out to a big lead. I know they only won by three, but they were controlling the game and running the ball well and in the driver's seat. So game play-wise, they just didn't need him. Sure, but he looked great. His targets on the year, 7, 6, 4, 5. No, they haven't been up there, and their defense is finding itself. Yeah, but would you be happy with 23% target share?

Yeah. And that's what he had. They didn't throw the ball that much. Yeah. I mean, it's not like you'd want 30. Are you happy with 39% target share? Yeah. Because that's what Drake London had.

Oh, yeah, yeah, baby. Eight for one, ten, and one. There was the London for Gentie trades we talked about last week. Neither party was unhappy after one week. Quentin Johnston's now the wide receiver, four on the season, 13 targets, eight for 98. You know, Quentin Johnston, we talked about him. I'm shocked he's that low.

We talked about him so often on Sunday because it is very, very clear that this is their best wide receiver on this team. 13 targets after a 10 target week. I mean, Quentin Johnston is now on pace for 157 targets. He's scoring almost every week. He has made, you know, Ladd-McConkie's irrelevant right now. He is their most physically gifted wide receiver by a mile. Like Ladd-McConkey.

He's their Nico calling. Ladd-McConkey is a great route runner, great hands, nice twitchy athlete. Keenan Allen once upon a time was, you know, a supreme athlete. now he's just a wily old vet. But Quentin Johnston has height, weight, speed, strength that these other guys don't have. And you're seeing it play out on the field for a team that wants to throw the ball and can with a great quarterback. Quentin Johnston is not going away. I got a lot of questions this week about trading four or trading away Quge.

I would not trade him. And I'm very happy. All my advice on all of them this week was on the Q's. side and it's continued he I mean you not you it's you don't want to compare him fully to the name but this is what happened to

Devante Adams Adam took a couple years Adams for two years was a catastrophic bust in the NFL you know a laughable laughable catch rate 440 yards 483 yards and I believe that year two was the year that Jordy went down to the

ACL so it was oh man Monta Adams is going to be the guy and then he was terrible and now Devante Adams is great. Yeah, year one Devonte Adams. Some guys just figure it out. Rookie year Devante Adams, wide receiver 75, right? Irrelevant. Okay, he's a rookie. Year two, when they

needed him, wide receiver 73 and it's like he's not good. He's not good. And then from then on now he's been basically a Hall of Fame wide receiver for a decade. Yeah, I mean, that might not be the path for Johnston. But he's playing very good. He's 82% snaps. It does happen.

Quentin Johnston was the laughing stock, and I, with four, through four weeks, I'm in. Well, it doesn't happen often, though. Third year breakout. Yeah, yeah. It's not like this. I mean, it's the fact you have to reference a guy that did it 15, 20 years ago. It's usually the, it's usually the second year breakout, third year superstar break out. But the snap counts are way up.

If it's going to happen, I want it to happen to a former first round pick, the number 21, pick in the draft. Emeka, Abuka, again, four for 101 and one, can't stop scoring. Literally can't stop. Debo, got it done. Six for 72, had the touchdown. Justin Jefferson, nice to see 10 catches for Jefferson. Didn't get into the end zone this week, but that was nice to see. Are you going to be sad when Wince goes away?

I don't think so. Honestly, this game was a pretty much, you know, it was one of the examples of why Wins is a backup to me. effective at times completely lost in the pocket didn't throw the ball away but I'm saying for Justin Jefferson is Justin Jefferson better with Carson Winston with J.J. McCart? Maybe a little bit

maybe a little bit but we also we've just barely seen J.J. Yeah that's fair so Goddard Warren Pitts Ferguson Tonjus Those are your Tomjus McBaskett tight ends apparently this was the

did you score a touchdown this week yeah when the tight end one on the week has 37 yards no the tie the tight end one sad 37 yards that's not a great week for tight ends um Tyler Warren love you dog he is so good I'm so mad at you I'm so mad at you Jason's upset that Warren which by the way if you have Warren you should be happy yeah about this two goal line opportunities again which we did talk about before the season important players to me Jonathan Taylor and and Daniel Jones. So, like, Warren getting a rushing touchdowns not on your list. Rushing touchdown, not on my list. Like, Tyler Warren, go catch the touchdown.

Great. Oh, you want to hand it off? Great. Just don't hand it off. The only thing that could hurt me. And he scored, so it worked. Tyler Warren, very, very good pits. Those two guys are 70 yards receiving.

Hunter Henry had a touchdown, but then got stopped at the one centimeter line. And Don Kincaid had one cat. but it was a touchdown so he keeps doing it keeps hanging on we will take our second break and come back with the duds all right uh this segment jason'll feel more at home yeah pooped in his big boy pants gino smith sucks at football um i started him over deck in like three leagues? It has been, shouldn't have done that?

No. No, I shouldn't. But to be fair, the Bears' defense without their star cornerback has been really bad until all of a sudden Gino starts throwing it to your defense three times. It was funny. All three of the interceptions, I thought were actually really, really

good plays by the defense. They were. Like diving route cutoff? I mean, it shouldn't have happened. Gino can't do that three times in a row. That's stupid. But And he only threw 117 yards in this game. But, yeah, I mean, he's not been very good most of the games. Yeah, I mean, he would tell you that because his press conference, he's like, I'm not the guy I'm supposed to be.

He has not been playing well. And he's been putting the ball in jeopardy is the real problem. Like his yardage has been fine. I mean, week one, he had over 20 fantasy points. Week three had over 20 fantasy points. The other two weeks have been bad. But the issue is, you know, this is a guy who's, we're, four weeks in. He's thrown six interceptions. You can't win that way. It's a weird

devolved devolving. Yeah, thank you. You were looking at like the opposite of like an evolution. Yeah. Because I've always thought that Gino was a good quarterback. I was excited for him to be for the Raiders and it's been. Donald's been much better. Yeah, it's been brutal. All right. Where are we with Justin Herbert? This was a disappointing performance. He is now, the last three weeks, quarterback 18, 8, and 17. So we've been under 20 fantasy points, three straight weeks, under 15, two straight weeks. The past attempts are still there. Hampton got it going this week, but, you know, this was a surprising upset to everyone, but, you know,

yours truly, of course. The interceptions this week is what really took the toll on him, the minus four there. Joe Alt, going down. Well, the offensive line became a real problem. problem. The fact that you lost their highest paid lineman in the league at left tackle. Before you even had to move all the season. Then you're like, it's okay. We drafted Joe Alt. Let's move him over there. And then he gets injured. So right now, we don't know. Joe Alt was an ankle injury. We'll monitor that. See if he can tape it up and as an lineman, maybe get back this week. But if not, I think you might want to press pause, maybe bench him. Past two weeks, Herbert has been pressured on almost 50. percent of his dropbacks. Caleb Williams, disappointing fantasy week

for Caleb Williams. They didn't pull out the win, but 2, 12, and 1 didn't look great to me at all. Back to the kind of bears struggling to move the ball. Daniel Jones. In protest.

Daniel Jones played awesome football. Oh, you didn't even, you were saying it, you're protesting. I'm protesting him being, he did not poop in his big boy pants. For fantasy football, he pooped in your big boy pants. Like he pooped in your pants. on your roster. Let me see those. Let me see those pants. I'm going to take a dump in those. He pooped in your pants, is what you're saying. He pooped in your pants, for sure. But he didn't poop in his own pants. He threw in his own. He threw in his own. He threw in his own. He pooped in his own. He pooped in his own. Would you say that if Adonai Mitchell? He played good ball. He played a touchdown. I mean, yes, he threw two interceptions. Everybody throws interceptions over the course of the year. He pooped a little bit in his own. Would you say that if Adonai Mitchell, if literally the pass he made where Adonai Mitchell scored a touchdown, but then just whoopsie-duzel.

the ball out of the back of the end zone, which again, again, again, again, is the dumbest rule in all of football. I can't stand that rule. Just give the team. He should have been punished for what happened. Yeah, but punish it by putting the ball in the office on the one or back on the 20. Look, if he gets that touchdown, he's still probably not in the top 12 this week. Not in the top 12, but not in the pooped in his big one. But maybe not. Yeah, you probably wouldn't be here. You're right. Jared Goff, 16 for 27 and 128 or 168. It's the golf experience. You never know what you're going to get running backs jason david montgomery what did he do for you last week oh man like 40 points who's so good and he was nine for 12 this week i had four players on my

roster that went nuclear i was the high score last week i was literally i had a zero a goose egg from cd lamb and the rest of my roster scored more than everyone else's roster pretty much that same roster this week. Montgomery, AJ Brown. Yeah, we had a, the morning games, I had four of my players going. They did not combine for 10 fantasy points. Oh, man. I hate

this game. So Jason has been so we've been doing this a while. Yeah, it's a decade. Jason at times has been vocal on Sundays when things are going sour. He had been really self-controlled.

And the ice broke this morning the ice broke last night but yeah um oh no you weren't there for that oh no i tried i tried to stay strong and be more mature and like turn a new leaf and your family left you yet no okay should they have i have left them they they they're still there so yeah um so they're happy you came to work today yeah oh yeah yeah okay um well sorry David Montgomery did deliver The Montgomery felt like

he I mean he felt like a sketchy play to me against the Bears I'd not that bad but well the other crazy one is like Derek Henry yeah this this is a conversation 8 for 42 now he had a long of 14 I feel like it was the first

carry of the game that means that what is that like 30 or 28 yards the rest of the way from Derek Henry had the outlier weird Justice Hill you know double touchdown day but Derek Henry has had like two studly games and two Dudley

games. And the snaps are down. The fumbles are up. The fumbles are up. The utilization to me is maddening to have third and one opportunities for third and one and fourth

and shorts and you're and Derek Henry's not on the field. That's crazy talk to me to not at least make the defense be nervous that you can hand the ball to to Derek Henry. But, I mean, what do you do here long term? Is this just a lull?

It's so weird. I mean, look at the last week. He played 39% of the snaps. So week one was awesome when you drafted King Henry, we were all dancing through the streets. But then 11 opportunities, 13, 11. Like that's even for Derek Henry, that's not going to get it done. Well, look, what is Derek Henry good at? Running the ball in a lead.

running the ball when you win what's the record they're one and three yeah it makes sense that's where you're at now Houston coming up 39% snaps though that is concerning like he never not one time last year was he that low even at the beginning of the year when people were really upset and they were like we're not going to give Derek Henry the ball three or 50 times and he was playing like 46% of the snaps he never was below 40% of the snaps I wonder if he played in the fourth quarter I mean this is what's the prescription is the prescription Straightaway? No.

I would be trading for Derek Henry. Well, I mean, that is the big question then. I don't know if... I would absolutely trade for. You're going to play three straight home games. I like that. I like him at home. You might need to lean on him more if Lamar is limited running.

You're right. He is... I mean, his splits historically and wins and losses is as big a gap as anybody because of his play style and they're one and three. And if you're like, well, so is that the Ravens? Are the Ravens going to go and what? win 25% of their games? No.

Boy, I do look at their schedule for the Ravens, and I wonder how easy it's going to be. They got to play the Rams. That's tough. Well, next week it's Houston, but then they play the Rams. Okay, so let's say they're one-on-one there. Okay, so then they lose to the Rams there. Yep.

You play Chicago at home. You probably win that game. That's a win. Yeah. Three and four. You play the dolphins on the road. You probably win that game. That's four and four.

But then you're in Minnesota in Cleveland, back-to-back. You win both of those? I mean, you should. I think you should. should win the both. But let's say you split, wow, you've got the Jets,

then you got the Bengals. They'll be all right. Bengals twice. They'll probably be all right. But yeah, first place schedule. Trey Benson, disappointing. If you look at the numbers, I go get them if I could.

Yeah, I do think there's going to be some frustration. The nice thing about Connor is that he was the most trustworthy on all three downs. DeMarcato played almost the same amount of snaps as Trey Benson. So that was because we were in a lot of two-minute drill and Trey Benson is not the two-minute drill, which is a... It's super frustrating when that happens. It is so frustrating and is a problem. And to be honest, I don't think that changes.

I don't think that Trey Benson will earn that role two or three weeks from now. If I was the head coach, he would earn that role last week. I'm still fine trading for him to be a starter because... He looked good. He had juice. What in the world do you do here? Washington

Washington had a two and a half headed monster here Jacori Kroski Merritt 7 for 47 Chris Rodriguez 7 for 57 59 59 and Jeremy McNichols just two for three so

both of the other backs looked really good two targets for Bill but the snaps 20-2019 that was the way it went that's not good if you had JCM would you trade him

would you try to trade him I tried to I mean that was my trade away last week and I I don't see anything to change my opinion on that okay Nick Chubb is uh times running out for Nick Chub yeah 44% of SNAS

yeah he I'm not dropping Nick Chub but I'm going to try and bench him Panic alarm for Ladd McConkey one for 11 on six targets for Ladd McConkey yeah that's I would need to go back and watch the targets but he had some uh huge like drops in this game

because Herbert is getting rushed Herbert completed I mean obviously Ladd McConkey helped him on now but he completed 56% of his passes this week against the Giants I mean panic not full panic yet but we are approaching it I think we said last week

we'd rather have Q's than Ladd rest of season before this week correct Ladd right now is slotted in as one of the biggest first two round disappointments that you could have drafted. Yep. A.J. Brown, two for seven. He is also one of the

bigger disappointments you could have drafted. Yeah, and he's vague booking. Oh, man, he's so back. We are so back. We got a quote here from A.J. Brown after losing the game, he put this quote up, he says, quote, if you're not welcomed, not listened

to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene. shrug your shoulders and be on your way. Four and O Philly? Yeah, it's tough to have wins now I know you just probably read his stat line. Mike,

look away. What am I looking away? Do you know how many yards, AJ Brown had? I remember you talking about him a lot. I'm going to go we're under 20. Correct. Okay. Are we under 15? Correct. Under 10? Correct. no no yeah get i want we're about specifics we're about detail here seven yards seven bingo now seven

yards how many targets seven more oh no oh yeah brother no nine targets how do you turn nine targets into seven yards because jason targets don't matter we've learned that on that's right thank you andy andy is famous for that targets don't man and proven right again man proven right Cleveland or Philly. Apparently. I mean, Devonnes Smith. Nine targets. You end up with seven yards? Well, he had the, uh, that he was strapped. They, they had him, uh, locked down. Three, three straight targets on that last drive. And he was clamped. What do we do with Brian Thomas Jr.? This is, this was not that bad of a game again. When you say not that bad, you're correct, but if that is the case, it's not been bad the whole season. I think it's less bad in

reality than it is in our minds. 8.5 fantasy points, 6.9 fantasy points, 6.5 fantasy points, 8.1 fantasy points. Those are his four weeks. I will try to trade for him this week. I would too. I would too. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try again. At least he caught the passes this week.

Yeah, he did. Yeah, I mean, Travis Hunter's a non-factor. The fact, Britton Strange is leading the team in, I think, receptions, or targets, not good. Tederoa McMillan. What are we doing now? We're four weeks in, Ted McMillan, four for 62. I saw some targets that, like the targets are always there, but obviously they don't matter.

But, I mean, Ted McMillan is sitting at a catch rate of 50%. Three for eight last week, four for eight this week. I'd like to say he's a trade for. Three of eight. You mean three for four? Three of eight, yeah, yeah. I'd like to say he's a trade for a target. He hasn't gotten into the end zone,

but the kind of polarity, the fact that the Panthers have looked like, maybe the worst team in football in three of their four games, and then they dominated Atlanta at home. Like, now, they've been on the road three times. They lost all three of those games looking horrible. They're at home for a couple more weeks. Is this the moment before they come home? This is the moment.

I would trade for Tet. I'm still in on Ted Row and McMillan. He threw four weeks. Did you trade A.J. Brown for him, Jason. Yeah, I think I would. I would want to go make that offer right the heck now. Obviously, there's some more. wide receivers that need to play tonight

because we have the two full games. True. But as of right now, even well, it feels very disappointing. Rookie wide receiver, Tedaro and McMillan on that bad team is the wide receiver 25 is what I'm seeing. That's not what you do. But with zero touchdowns as well.

It's a quarterback problem though. It's whether you believe that Bryce Young is going to effectively get him the football on a regular basis. He's effectively trying to. like he's the targets are there he's on a pace for 170 targets so that's a buy normally

Miami and Dallas are the next two games and they are at home. This would be your moment I think. Yeah, yep. I would be buying in right now and if we get to the end of week six and he has not made we don't have some sort of statement game

either against Miami or Dallas like Matthew Golden. I'm not going to call it a dud game but super disappointing. Super disappointing. So we should talk about... So he was at like eight and a half fantasy points.

He had the target in the end zone at the end of the game. I agree it's a disappointing game. I mean, how many... He had a, what was it like a 20-yard catch in overtime. So it took overtime for him to get there. Let me... It was not overtime. It was the field goal right before.

It was right before to get to overtime. Was that what was? Yeah, it was the fourth down conversion to try to get the field goal to go to overtime. But I would say like, so there's two players that, Golden and Jameson Williams, I want to talk about. Golden, I am worried about because of the snaps and the opportunities. Go watch the Green Bay game. I don't have the numbers in front of me.

If you want to know when they're going to run the football, just look to see whether Matthew Golden's on the field. Matthew Golden was like off the field every single time it was a designed run play. And they have a lot of different weapons there. I expected them to have a chance at a deep shot. They didn't really take one. They had the early one where he caught it in Wix and him were in the same spot.

Which it looked like the ball was going to Wix, and Matthew Golden's like, I'm going to take that. It is a tough call because we expected the breakout game in this one. I don't know what the final numbers were. I think he had like five catches. Five for 58. He had the end zone target at the end.

It's like if he catches that ball, does your perspective completely change on the season? I don't know. I was a little disappointed in the snap counts. So, yeah, that was my opinion there. And then it feels like he is who we thought he was. You know, I know we were excited going to a good offense with a first round draft capital. But this was a surprising, like, before the NFL draft, we knew he's a talented wide receiver and a special athlete.

Both of those things are true. But he did not project her profile as an alpha wide receiver, as a, as a, you know, a team. leader at the wide receiver position. We kind of hoped and gave him that based on his draft capital and then based on Jaden Reed's injury. But this is a guy who never had a thousand yards in college. Sure. Like why would he come to the NFL and dominate and take over the NFL when he didn't

take over his, you know, his team in Texas? So, you know, I don't know. I think he is not, he'll have a lot of big games. and I think he's going to be in his career a great best ball player. I don't know that he ever develops into what he has never developed into prior to the NFL, which is the alpha possession receiver. The guy who has a target market share that says, give me that. Oh, there what Kyle.

Kyle managed to pull this data very fast. He was on the field for five of the 22 Jacobs carries. That's what I noticed. I knew exactly what the team was doing. I hate it when teams do this. They do this all the time. To me, it's like the biggest tell ever. Just look for zero.

If he's not out there, go tackle the running back. That's how it worked. Jameson Williams, he was two for 40. Every time we looked at the television, every time it looked like he was going to catch an 80-yard touchdown. He smoked the defense over and over and over and over in this game. Average depth of target was nearly 27 yards. He's just him and golf could not connect.

He's a bus so far, right? Yeah, probably. What is your trade for, neutral, tradeaway? He's pretty neutral to me because you got to know what he is, which is a big play, like huge week, but very, like his variance, he could easily half the games going forward, go out there and score less than five fantasy points. It was awesome to see the eight targets.

this he was targeted on 32% of his routes which is that's a tremendous number so they took so many shots that should have worked yeah and two of them I it this is from memory I don't have the data in front of me but I think two of them were his fault like drops I know one one was oh he turned to the right and then turn to the left I that was a drop of all drops um I know not a drop of a you didn't have to overstate it I would have agreed with you if you said it was a difficult catch it was a drop entirely 80 million dollar receivers make that catch it was a difficult catch that was a drop entirely on him

Jared Gough put that ball on a catchable place with plenty of time and error and he did not catch it after it hit his hands but the others were all missed like the others there were so many plays where he's going down he's torched the defense

and then he underthrew it and then he underthrew it or over through it. It was wild but if you watch the game James and Williams had the best game of some of sub five fantasy points I've ever seen. Like, he was dominant and a complete failure. He was disappointing.

Yep. And let's have a conversation, Brock Bowers. Let's have a conversation. I mean, Gino. Brock Bowers is, his average depth of target has gone from 11 to 9 to 6 to 2. He's caused two of our chopped league teams to be chopped.

Oh yeah, he was on one of the chop teams. He was. And I bet a lot to have. And he's going to hit the waivers again. You guys should pay up for him. He was the tight end one, and then he was 16, 14, and currently 17 on the week. He heard his knee. That will be pushed lower.

He hurt his knee in week two. And this is the conversation. Gino's not been good. They're not running them on downfield routes. Ashton Ginty does change what the offense was doing last year, right? They didn't have any running game at all. Now Ginty involved in the passing game. Now Ginty involved, you know, big running game.

I mean, they were running Zemir White last year. He was a healthy scratch this week, I believe. I think. No, I said last year. Oh, yeah, yeah. Zemir White was a running back last year. And so I'm just saying

having a running game, having a different quarterback, having a different offensive coordinator, having an injury. Like Brock Bowers, he's such a big name. If you don't believe that it'll get right for him, he is a easy player to trade. That's all I'm saying.

I would say, you wanted to trade them away right now and you can get a hall great Warren plus Jalen Warren no I don't think you'll go Tyler Warren oh yeah I would do that and I think you could no I don't think you could I don't think you could I don't think you could would you do it straight up I would do it yeah yeah he wanted to make sure that it was it was it's close but if I could get Tyler Warren plus I would do it I I believe that this issue we're seeing right now with Brock Bowers is the knee and so the second half of the year they've got a week eight buy

so that's that's a month from now when he's you know two months and a week of rest recovered from that knee I think he's going to go out there and dominate I mean all those things scary amount of time away it is that's why I would be willing to take Tyler Warren plus but you know I think you would have to I don't think that trade goes through

I do not but Tyler Warren his currently week one was 11.4 points this is a scoring foreman, 11.4, 10, 5 against Tennessee, gross, and then currently just under 16 points this week. It's currently the tight-in three. He's been awesome. If I have Warren and someone comes to me and says, hey, I'll give you Brock Bowers. If you give me Warren plus, the trade conversation's done. I'm going to laugh in your face. I'll be like, yeah, sure, okay. I'm going to take the guy who's dominating right now as opposed to Brock Bowers. You might, but I don't

know of everybody you can yeah go ahead i don't think if everybody everybody a spot you know new tyler warren he's a rookie coming into the league i think in some other leagues it might be different juan johnson three for 28 sam lapporte 3 for 39 both duds joan johnson got injured in that game right uh he just he had a play where he looked a little shook up i don't think anything got officially reported yeah he did yeah he actually played the same amount of snaps this last week 90 percent sam laporta disappointment t j hawkinson disappointment he's only been above six fantasy points one time this year. I really thought Hawk would get it done

in this game. The fact that there was a complete negative game scripted, or it gets positive for what he needs to do and didn't get anything going, I would into the shadow realm, Hawkinson, I'm done.

Mark Andrews still had eight targets, so seven for 30. Impressive. Isaiah likely was not targeted. Yeah, Isaiah likely played around 45% of the snap. I believe. He's just working his way back in. Andrews did what I mean old guys. Andrews eight targets seven for 30. Travis Kelsey five for 48. It's just like these are yeah these are small like is that car two for 21 safety valve type of guys now. One of the biggest uh names I saw actually in the

Monday Punday but none that I settled on was David Nizoku who was two for 11. So David Nizoku at this point is Harold Fanon ran more routes than him this week. Yeah, Najoku is 11 yards. He's unplayable. So I had him in three of my eight main leagues and

going into this week I replaced him everywhere I could. He's unplayable. And Harold Fanon Jr., the rookie, who looks awesome and is awesome, equally unplayable. These two guys are

taking each other's work. They're splitting a good tight end, and they're making it into two bad tight ends for fantasy purposes. You remember when I said the targets don't matter in Cleveland? Six targets for Harold Fanon, two catches for Harold Fanon. They're not good targets so far this year. Every single one of their receiving options has underproduced from that target to catch ratio. Before that, he was an 83% catch rate. Harold Fanon? Yeah. He's catching the shallow stuff. Yeah. So, I mean, Detroit, terrible week. That was studs and duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for NFL football.

Earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner in the NFL. Senator Tillman will miss weeks. Yeah. Does it make you feel better, Jason? It wasn't just a hamstring injury. It's a bad one. It certainly made me, because I put him in my lineup, it made me feel much better knowing like he missed three-fourths of the game.

And really, the second half is where I was waiting for that kind of, hey, we're down. We got to throw it a lot. They did. They threw it every play to Jerry Judy who couldn't catch the ball. And so, yeah, I mean, it was nice to know that the process was okay, but it stinks. And I've got Tillman in a handful of places, and so I've got him nowhere. We have another update if you want to pick the pickup of Woody Marks.

We have a quote from D'emico Ryan's, the Texans coach. He specifically indicated that Joe Mixon is not ready to return at this time. And per sources, it will be much longer, if at all. four mix until you get back on the field. There's your number one pickup for the week. Who's my number? I mean, Woody Marks. Woody Marks is.

He'll be the number one pickup. Who else would it be? I just wanted to make sure, but it's probably Woody. 37% roster? Yeah. Let me ask you a question here. No, I won't trade him for Travis Hunter. I have a league.

I have a league where I have lost Citi Lamb, Aaron Jones. George Kittle this is a very deep league we have three injured reserve spots I drafted Joe Mixon oh I caught him in a couple leagues you cut him in a couple of leagues yeah

when I had limited IR spots I cut him in a couple of leagues where I wanted to move Aaron Jones then I've got three I R spots and I'm like no I would cut Joe Mixon the upside's not there I mean even if he got back out on the field in six to eight weeks yeah you know Woody March is there Nick Chubb is there.

Where's the team at that point? Is this team going to compete for the division? Is he going to be good after missing a year? Yeah. You know, we're close to it. Fresh legs. Atrophy. I worry about the fresh foot.

All right. Waiver wire tomorrow. Two Monday night football games for you to enjoy this fine evening. Oh, Broncos. Yeah. Go Chase Brown. Get 25 fantasy points. Say a prayer for Jason's family, everybody.

We'll talk to you tomorrow on The Waiver Show. Take care. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on Jointhefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.