Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 4 Waivers & Streamers + Steel Underpants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/26

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Week 4 waiver wire pickups and streamers! On today’s fantasy football podcast, players that can help your team right away, and others to stash on your bench! Which players are droppable? Plus, a rec...ap of the Monday Night doubleheader and latest NFL News. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for September 26th, 2023. Connect with the Fantasy Footballers Podcast: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Welcome to the Waiver Wire, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. Visit youtube.com/fantasyfootballers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Welcome in. Tuesday edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway back with you. Game... Well, I was going to say week three in the books, not game three. We had two games last night. Were you able to handle the stress of two games, Mike? Again, it is not the stress. It is just the logistics of watching them, and I did.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I had one game on the big screen, one game on my little tablet. So it's just not as enjoyable. That's all I'm saying. Have you ever done the thing where, I mean, your tablet's so close to you, right? Yes. So then have you ever held it up right close to you and then seen the TV in the background and noticed how it's like? So I can only see it with one eye?
Starting point is 00:02:19 Well, no. I mean, I'm just saying they're like the same size relative to how close they are to you. Have you ever done that before? If you hold it up, it will look exactly like your TV on the wall. Perspective where it is identically sized. I'm just trying to help. I've not done that. I'm not strong enough to hold up a tablet for three hours.
Starting point is 00:02:38 All right. Well, we have a waiver wire episode today and an important one. We're three weeks in. And Mike, you didn't spend Monday night in some sort of depression state. You had Jamar Chase emerge from the muck. Hey, look at that.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And amazingly, Jamar Chase had a very good game, and yet Joe Burrow was a disaster for fantasy players, yet Joe Burrow was a disaster for fantasy players yet again. He was, I think, 11 fantasy points in one of our league formats. He had 26 passes completed out of 49 attempts, 259 yards, had a pick. He was really atrocious, especially for what we want from Joe Burrow. And yet, the line of 256 on his prop, he managed to surpass it by three yards. So he got me twice, guys.
Starting point is 00:03:32 He got me. He got me. Of course I took the under. So you bet against Burrow so that you could be happy if he disappointed you with Chase. Yeah, and he disappointed me, and he took my money. This situation with Joe Burrow is, in many ways, more difficult than if they threw him on IR, and you went out and you were trying to find a better situation at quarterback
Starting point is 00:03:54 because he's limited mobility-wise. You're not going to get any yards on the ground. You're not going to get bigger plays because a lot of those emerge from getting outside the pocket, extending the play, letting players get downfield. That was the biggest problem i felt like i was seeing i'm like this is it's all just joe burrow checking it down short attack the field but then you're like well no he can't buy himself any extra time so if he feels the pocket collapsing at all he has to throw the ball even just the zip on the ball you know it's sure yeah
Starting point is 00:04:26 it takes your legs to throw well so you know if you don't have all the your normal power he didn't look like himself he won't look like himself honestly it was a huge blessing that he was the latest game of the week because that caused many fantasy managers to forcibly pivot not knowing if he was going to be active. I know Mike and I, in our league, we chose to start Derek Carr. Did Carr outscore Burrow? He probably had to, even though he left the game early. Yeah, he had the touchdown to Jimmy Graham early in the game.
Starting point is 00:04:58 That's interesting. So they were probably neck and neck. I mean, Jamar Chase was good. Joe Mixon was good. T. Higgins was not. Eight targets. No. Eight targets for T. Higgins, which means he has a game where he had eight targets and no receptions.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And now he has a game with eight targets and two receptions. Two for 21. I know you said something about an injury this morning, Mike, but I am not seeing any reports of injuries. We got buzzed last night. Like right after his second terrible drop, it was T. Higgins is leaving for injury. It was getting passed around on Twitter. So, yeah, I'm trying to find some more information about it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, I guess Matthew Betts is saying cramps. Okay. There you go. So some cramps. But it was – Fantasy managers cramping up with two for 16 in those two games. It was the perfect storm for T. Higgins of him getting terrible targets yet again. And then the good targets, it looked like he was almost surprised
Starting point is 00:05:54 that the target hit him in the hands. He was so shocked that he dropped it horrifically at least twice. I mean, T. Higgins is a high-variance player. You get weeks like that. You also get weeks like week two where he was a weak or winning type of a player. You ride that out. Yeah, I mean, we talk so much about targets,
Starting point is 00:06:19 and sometimes we get really disappointed when they're uncatchable, but maybe we just need to adjust the way we're kind of looking at those. Like Kyron Williams last night. Did you guys watch that game? He had no chance to catch most of those targets. But it was nice that he was receiving the eyeballs of his quarterback and the ball was getting unceremoniously chucked in his direction. He had seven targets.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He only caught two of them. Puka Nakua, his night was saved with the 40. 37, 37 yard. It should have been 40. Oh, because he easily could have scored on that play. Easily, wide open. There's a little bit of Stafford's issue there. He just didn't air it out enough.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah, if Stafford hits him, you know, Stafford saw him, threw it, made the right read, and it was great because it was a nice 37-yard play for Puka. It should have been a 40-yard touchdown easily. That was as basically, you won't call it garbage time, but like very, very into the game. Yeah, trying to catch up. Trying to catch up before the unsuccessful onside kick.
Starting point is 00:07:20 It was not a good game for the offense. A lot of pressure on Matthewthew stafford uh through two interceptions took six sacks to to outwell looked good again got into the end zone maybe twice people still debating that play it looked i thought he was out of bounds did you i did i but some people were talking about the toe that's that's i saw it as that the heel is clearly up. There was controversy. So how can the heel be out of bounds? It was – you can argue either way, but the fact that it was called a touchdown
Starting point is 00:07:51 and then they took it back with what looked like non-conclusive evidence to me was strange. The NFL has enough money where they could actually put a microchip in every blade of grass. And we could know this definitively. We were – was it this past weekend or the weekend before? We were like, why is there no perfect down the goal line? Yes, that makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:08:12 There should be like four dedicated cameras. How about 10? How about 10? But you put them everywhere. You know where the end zone is. NFL, you literally know exactly where you need these cameras. You put them there. And there are these crazy lenses
Starting point is 00:08:28 now where the camera doesn't have to be right there. The camera can zoom. Oh, it's called a zoom lens? Yeah, a zoom lens. They just invented this. And so you could have the 10 feet away, 20 feet away. We've also got lasers and stuff to like break the plane of, I mean, there should never be
Starting point is 00:08:44 a question on the goal line. You ever see what – tennis has got those computers, and you can see down to the microscopic level where this ball is hitting. Everyone gets to do that. It blows my mind that it's like, well, the cameras are on one side of the field. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, you only have a camera down this? Like, whenever there's that question,
Starting point is 00:09:03 they're trying to find the ball, you know, in a a pile or whatever but they only have a camera from one one direction like and it's angled right it's like just this is just put in a bulk order 32 teams 32 cameras add one on the other side right it start there at this point i mean because you have and you have the chains which is like the most archaic dinosaur way of doing things. It really is. Especially when they move them. Well, they've got to move the chains back. No, they can figure it out.
Starting point is 00:09:31 No, when they're moving the chains back, they are not 100% getting it in the same spot. At this point, is this a... Keep some jobs? Well, all press is good press. The NFL actually. We have now spent five minutes getting fired up talking about how stupid they do things. And they're like, yeah, we're the stupid one. This is galaxy brain.
Starting point is 00:09:56 We got you. Good job, NFL. We fell for it again. I can still remember that stinking golden take call in the end zone. Oh, that was the scab refs, though. It was the scab refs. I'm just saying. That was when the refs were on strike.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Are you talking about what they called two separate touchdowns? I'm just saying. We talked about it for now ever. WaverWire Show today. Signed CMC jersey giveaway up on the website, fullclangiveaway.com. We've got a variety, a smattering of different records here in the studio. Deucer's Alley over there.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Al Borland with the improbable 3-0 in Dynasty trying to rebuild. He's trying to trust the process. So talk to me, guys. Let's give some very direct, and then it'll be broad to the community out there. But what do you do if you're in Al's situation? His dynasty team was not projected to win ballgames. It's still not. It's still not.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Well, this is my point. He's stumbled, bumbled his way to 3-0, starting players like Rico Dowdle by necessity, and he scores. What do you do at this point? You know, tons of future picks, wants to be rebuilding, wants high picks in the future, and yet you end up 3-0 in a dynasty league.
Starting point is 00:11:23 What is your evaluation process when it comes to towing the line? Because they have those picks. They could go all in. They could go make trades trades yeah that and that's the direction they should they should head while I don't want him to uh I don't want anyone else in the league to win people have to um the the way that you have won I mean if you are a surprising winner it's probably because you have a handful of players you didn't expect to be good who are good and that's the case with you you have puka nakua who is a revelation you have deandre swift who you thought was not going to be good oh man we should talk about him tank dell um another surprise you know it's it you don't win completely accidentally um there are players that step up and
Starting point is 00:12:03 if you find yourself three and0, then you keep pressing. And on the flip side, in a normal redraft league, if you're 0-3, do not freak out and do not think you are done at all. We say this every year. We say it now and we say it next week and we say it the following week because one of my favorite things that happens every single year are the oh and five teams the teams that just are down in the dumps that come back and sneak into the playoffs and win a championship it happens all the time oh and three is nothing everyone in your league is going to lose at least three times so don't worry about it it's a good point and I was going to move on And I forgot we had a whole nother Monday night football game to talk about on top of the Bengals beating the Rams, which is the 25 to 11 whipping the Eagles put on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Starting point is 00:12:55 from a Tampa side. There was one player that you would have been happy that you played in this football game. And that was Mike Evans who ended up 5 for 60 in a touchdown on 10 targets. Could have been a much bigger game for Mike Evans. He dropped an earlier touchdown. He had a couple drops on the sideline. But it is nice to see in a game that they were manhandled thoroughly, you still got a good game from him. Still a nice performance from Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And 10 targets again. He's been great. He had some missed opportunities as well. You know, I remember a big third down play. Ball was a little high, but you know, he could have caught it. Usually would. He just looks outstanding. He is the clear most important read in this offense. He is the one. He is the alpha. If there were questions coming in in your heart between Chris Godwin and Mike Evans, it's been definitively and clearly answered for Baker. Baker Mayfield's dude is Mike Evans. He's been outstanding, and I don't think he's going away. So it was a great call by you, Andy. I know this was one of your favorite players.
Starting point is 00:13:59 In fact, I believe your quote was, the most confident you've ever been in one of your guys in the nine years we've been doing this. So hopefully people listen. It's a long season, Jason. You just said it. No, no, no. Very happy with this. Nothing could happen bad for Mike Evans the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Big bounce back game for A.J. Brown. Nine for 131. You were expecting it. You got it. The storyline here, I mean, it was a down game for Devontae Smith, a down game for the twos in this night, right? Godwin, Higgins, Devontae Smith. But A.J. Brown, big game.
Starting point is 00:14:37 They were going to Dallas Goddard early and often, and then, you know, kind of 5-for-41. That's what we call a pits. Yeah, it's fine for a tight end. A little disappointing that they're still not using him down the field, but you're going to keep playing him. He's talented on a good offense. I think the big story here is DeAndre Swift.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, the running backs. I mean, DeAndre Swift, 16 for 130. It has been easy to look at the film and say he is running through highways of lanes. But the truth is is the reason that's happening in part is because he is so explosive from first touch like he gets the ball he's identifying the freeway that has been formed for him and then he is exploring caroni signals i don't know if he signals mike i think he's probably breaking some laws but he's definitely speeding and uh catch me if you can i mean he is so swift yeah i mean kenneth
Starting point is 00:15:33 gainwell has the same highway lanes to run through and he had 14 carries on the ground ended up with 43 yards so you see a difference here, and Swift has obviously earned it. He's startable. Gainwell was healthy. Yeah. And we saw Gainwell was healthy enough to get 14 carries. I mean, they weren't giving him, like, rest first week back from the injury. This was just the rotation.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So you can have full confidence in DeAndre Swift going forward right now. Jalen Hurst, 23 for 37. Tush push, touchdown, and then a one through the air. A heck of a throw to Zaccheaus. Yeah, what a pass that was. How did you guys feel like Jalen Hurts looked? Not that great. Okay, because that was my takeaway, too.
Starting point is 00:16:19 About the same as the first two games. You've got a great fantasy output you know almost 300 passing yards a passing touchdown and the rushing touchdown but I felt like it yeah he did have two interceptions as well it just he didn't he did not he still has not looked like last year's Jalen Hurst the throw to Zaccheaus was fantastic but it was I mean he got absolutely crushed because he had to wait so long for it to happen. Jalen Hurts moving forward, I'm not going to overly worry about him for fantasy. He should be safe, but it is strange watching him play
Starting point is 00:16:56 and feeling like I'm not watching a great quarterback right now. It is bearing itself out in fantasy. Right now, Jalen Hurts is the quarterback eight by points per game. And so you're feeling that a little bit. Do you have the list in front of you? I do. I thought I'd go through some of these names through three weeks because did you want the quarterbacks?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Is that what you're saying? Yes, please. Yeah, so right now, points per game, the quarterback one is Kirk Cousins. Quarterback two is Justin Herbert. That is a six point. Sorry, that is six point. You want me to switch over to four? Whatever, man.
Starting point is 00:17:28 They're going to be close enough. I like six. Our main leagues are six. Justin Herbert is number one in four point. Kirk Cousins is two. Tua is three. Jordan Love is four. And Patrick Mahomes is five right now.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Top five running backs on the season. Raheem Mostert, Christian McCaffrey, Kenneth Walker, Tony Pollard. And number five. Oh, I'm sorry. I hadn't sorted that one there. Mostert. I see games played.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah. I should look at total points, I guess. Yeah, because I believe number five is Devon Achan. Yeah, Devon Achan. Yeah, Achan. Oh, yeah. let's make that public service now sure because even though we'll make it we will be getting a pile of tweets saying we are now stupid yeah we are we are not stupid i mean we are not yeah did you hear the opening we're dumb devon a chan is the way that he has asked his name to be pronounced. They are changing the media guide.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It is unfortunate for our rhyming schemes on the show. Yeah, it's really. There's no more A-Chan in the membrane or anything like that. It's one of those things where it always surprises me when it takes this long. Like you were a prominent collegiate player. Some guys don't like to speak up about it. There was a media guy. Isn't there a statute of limitations though?
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. No. It's his name. He can wait until his dying breath. So we can make as many nicknames as we want about a player and if they want to change their name we have to throw them out? Is that what you're saying? That is regrettably what I'm saying. Is that what you're saying? That is regrettably what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:19:06 So it's Devon A. Chan. Yes. A. Chan. Schefter tweeted that out. Forgive us for the next 200 mistakes. Yeah, we'll mess it up. You think about the guys that printed the media guides and how many trees they're wasting? That's another thing on you, Devon.
Starting point is 00:19:20 If it's even Devon. But the points, total points, still Devon points total points still Devon A. Chan Devon A. Chan wow that was quick son of a gun Mostert McCaffrey Walker Pollard A. Chan wide receivers right now Tyreek Keenan Jefferson
Starting point is 00:19:38 Adams Evans and the tight end position is Hawkinson Laporta end of list Henry Kelsey Evans, and the tight end position is Hawkinson, Laporta. End of list. Henry, Kelsey, but he's played one fewer game, and then Evan Ingram. Yeah. So it has been.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Somehow Evan Ingram has been the steady Eddie of the tight end position. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's been the least. The most boom bust guy of last year to have like an end with a good season. No, he's just cruising along. I think he has the third most yards at the position. He hasn't scored that. As we know, it's tough in the streets, man. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Kittle and Waller are down at like seven and eight. Mark Andrews is top five points per game, but also missed a game. Is he? Yep. He had a touchdown. Touchdowns solve everything that's shocking and embarrassing for the tight end position right i mean because mark andrews had one good game out of his two didn't play half your games being good at tight end is top five wow
Starting point is 00:20:36 news and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Derek Carr unlikely to play week four, so Jameis Winston ready and able to step in for the Saints. Does that mean Olave's going to score? It's possible. He has the most yards of any player without a touchdown at the
Starting point is 00:21:01 wide receiver position. I believe he's at 302 yards on the year, zero touchdowns. Bryce Young, whether he'll play in week four, Frank Reich says, I don't know yet. I don't know. The Raiders confirmed Jimmy Garoppolo is in the concussion protocol. Brandon Ayuk participated in practice. Devo Samuel dealing with rib injury, not seen at practice.
Starting point is 00:21:21 It is Tuesday, so we will keep our eyes on that. What else do we have? We have a David Montgomery limited report in practice. Aaron Jones limited. Christian Watson. And these are estimates because this is the Thursday night matchup. So they don't actually practice Monday, but they put out the report of what they think would have happened.
Starting point is 00:21:44 We get Lions Packers Thursday night? I guess. I mean, but they put out the report of what they think would have happened. We get Lions-Packers Thursday night? I guess. I mean, you can't say the first thing and not mean it. I'm reading what's on my show doc. Is that confirmed over there? We have a team of experts. Yeah, yeah. Lions at Packers Thursday. That's a good game. Right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:59 That's definitely a good game. I mean, that's for the division. You would imagine at this point right now, the winner of this division is going to be one of these two teams. So early on, whoever – if one team sweeps this series, that team's going to the playoffs. Well, let me throw this out there because we haven't gotten into our matchups and we haven't previewed that game.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So I just want you to guess what the line is on that game sorry yeah boston yeah that was worse than boston that was uh some of my best work thank you um what the line is who's home green Green Bay. I'll go Green Bay minus one and a half. That's what I was going to say. So I'll go minus two. It's Green Bay plus one and a half. Respect the rule. I was so close to going minus one and a half, Lions, which is what it is. It's almost a pick-em.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I mean, it's just going to be a battle. Great Thursday night matchup. That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Quick break, and then back with a very important waiver wire segment. At Wealthsimple, we're built
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Starting point is 00:23:55 You see, Mike, it was, he said lion, but it was supposed to be a play on lying. Yeah. You get it now? I didn't, actually. So that's maybe why I thought it was such a bad joke but now now it's the bad joke yeah welcome to the waiver wire presented by nfl sunday ticket on youtube and youtube tv all right we are into the waiver wire. We're going to start at the running back position, but a reminder,
Starting point is 00:24:32 Alvin Kamara is back. Yeah. Oh, well, well, well. And I had a couple teams that I forgot I had him on the roster, sitting on my bench, not in the IR because he suspended. Very delighted at the development. Gaining a running back out of thin air. It is nice. He tweeted out a very funny
Starting point is 00:24:49 video. That was great. Of him. There was some other viral video and he put faces on it. It was a good time. He's happy to be back. A guy getting out of prison and being welcomed back with open arms. So let's throw this out there real quick. Alvin Kamara, rest of season, is the RB what?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Putting you on the spot? 15. 15? That'd be dandy. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go running back two-ish. Okay. You guys, the assignment was done differently.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Which one of us did it correctly? I was looking at what Jason was doing. Oh, you want an exact answer? Yeah, I just thought that would be more entertaining. Running back 19. Okay. All right, I'll be right in between you two. I think about 15, 16.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Jonathan Taylor, Cooper Cup, Jeff Wilson, and Tyquan Thornton eligible to come off of IR in week five. And so we'll monitor those. Let's talk running backs. in week five, and so we'll monitor those. Let's talk running backs. The most – you know, Mike, for a guy that has said running backs, like you're done with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You're also the guy starting A.J. Dillon in our League of Record, and I looked at your roster yesterday, and you definitely took it to heart to not have any running backs. That is correct. So you might be hungry for some of these i am i have i have not been i've gauged our waiver wire spending incorrectly thus far and missed out on all the big acquisitions so devon h in oh gosh that's hard it's gonna take some time he should at least give us, I don't know, a two-week grace period. Absolutely. I think he does.
Starting point is 00:26:27 He's a very nice guy. Yeah. So this week takes on Buffalo, Devon Achan. In Buffalo. And then it's the Giants in Carolina. I just said Jeff Wilson comes back next week. Salvin Ahmed, we don't know his practice status so far what a what a uh you know obviously the top priority is devon achan you have to spend to pick him up because the possibilities
Starting point is 00:26:53 are too valuable for your roster and yet the question is how much how much fab do you spend yeah first of all on the jeff wilson je Jeff Wilson is eligible, just like all these players are eligible that started the season on the PUP, to be activated. I haven't heard a peep that he is expecting to. When he went on PUP, I believe the head coach said, we're hopeful that he could make it back this year. That doesn't sound like a guy who's preparing to come back, but Kyle, if you want to do some research.
Starting point is 00:27:25 There were two comments on it. There was one where he said the first comment when he got put on IR was, we hope he makes it back this year. But then the second comment was related to the plan is to put him on for the four weeks and take him off. So we have kind of conflicting outlooks, but yes, yes, let's not. It's not a guarantee that he's available. That being said, A-Chan is a player that after he was drafted to the Dolphins, we talked about what a perfect fit for this scheme, his speed,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and the way that they design getting players just that sliver of space so that they can track meat away. He was perfect and and you saw in his first real opportunity um of his career that that's what's exciting and that's why you want to go hard after a-chan is because this was his first chance all he did in his first chance was completely and utterly his first. His first A chance. All right. Better than Lion.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Let's not bring up the Lion joke anymore. Yeah, let's let that die on me. So what does that mean, Fabwise, though? I think that means you're probably going 45 to 55. That doesn't seem like it will get you Devon H. No? No, especially based on the fact that we've had some big spending on the waiver wire, and this is the biggest performance of the year.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I don't think that gets him. If you want him and you believe, I think you've got to spend more. And this week, there just aren't good options. As far as people that are readily available, there's no one that is readily available that you're really gunning for. Make sure you are looking through, though. See how much fab people have left, because there's been, through the first two weeks,
Starting point is 00:29:19 there were huge running back pickups that people may have. They could be depletedeted that they can't outbid you i mean papa josh what did you spend a hundred on who did you spend a hundred on jerome ford yeah jerome ford was a 100 pickup but that's scenario you know he's the guy so yeah i think 75 is what you're going to see him going for. So are you willing – if you see him, he's on your waivers, maybe you're not running back absolute desperate, but you need another one. Like you've got – I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:29:53 You're not spending 75 on him. No, because I don't – I see a bumpy path for Devon Achan. And it's not that he can't have big games. It's that I see both sides of it. I mean, we had obviously a very different scenario, but the first two carries of Brees Hall this year went for 80-something yards. The next 24 carries went for like 40 yards. Like explosive plays.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Denver had laid down in a lot of respects. Buffalo is going to be a tougher challenge. For sure. If I were projecting Devon Achan this week, I think he's an rb2 there is a note that says bill's rush defense allowing the highest yards per carry in the nfl yeah so okay so give me then the number you won't go 75 what is your number that you're going to put it in and be happy if you get him 40 okay so 40 40 seems to be your limit. If I need a running back, it's a different story. This is why you can't just say he's worth this amount of money
Starting point is 00:30:48 or this amount of fab, because if you desperately need a running back, he could be the solution to your problem. If you are kind of content on there, who are you starting him over? That's another way to answer the question, right? I'd start him over A.J. Dillon, guys. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:07 All right. So answer that question about five times and add about 10 fab every time you say, I'd start him over. I mean, are you starting – would you rather have Devon A. Chan or Isaiah Pacheco rest of the season? Ooh. I'd rather have the shot at A. Chan. I'd go Pacheco.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I would slightly lean Pacheco. Would you rather have DeAndre Swift or Devon A-chan? Swift. Swift. Okay. Let's go to some of these medium starts at running back. I'd rather have him over Rashad White. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah. Yeah. That's for sure. They keep giving him the ball. Oh, he's getting work. He is getting work. And if he plays the Bears again, he's going to be just fine. Doing his best.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I don't like the Rashad White slander. I really don't. Because it's all a matter of perspective. This is fantasy football 101. Last year, Leonard Fournette's running the football, and Rashad White's everybody's dream. Let's get Rashad White the ball because Fournette's too slow. Now Rashad White's the running back, and it's like, oh, this guy sucks.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Let's give it to Sean Tucker, who's done nothing. We just are unhappy with inefficient performances and then throw them out the window. I thought Rashad White looked good on several plays last night. One play. One play. I thought he looked good on one play last night. If you take that one play out, he was 13 for...
Starting point is 00:32:27 You're playing the Eagles. Yeah, I mean... Does that not matter? No, it matters. Does Brees' fault suck after last week's performance? It definitely matters. Zach Wilson does suck, yes. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah. So if Brees has a bad game, it's Zach Wilson's fault. If Rashad has a bad game, it's Rashad's fault. Rashad has had a bad game almost all of his games of his career. No, he has not. That is not true. Efficiency-wise. I'm saying he's had good fantasy games due to volume.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And catching the football also. That's not just volume. I mean, it's being effective in the passing game. No, no, no. You're just dumping on it. But those are different things. Effective in the passing game is different than getting receptions. He can't do anything but catch the ball thrown to him where it's thrown to him.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That's not his fault. Right. And he can't do anything with it after that. That's my point. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. This is ridiculous. No, no.
Starting point is 00:33:20 He was 5.8 yards of reception last year. That's my point. It's like he was never good at it. Have you ever seen some of these running backs that can't do that? Because there's a lot of them. Catching the ball is itself a skill. Plus, we're talking about fantasy value. What happens is the point.
Starting point is 00:33:36 We care about the points on the football field. They got manhandled last night. Baker had a pretty bad game. He did. But the point stands. I would rather have him than Rashad White. Would you rather have Rashad White? Than A-Chin? Yeah. No. Okay. No, so we fought for nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Kenneth Gainwell. Kenneth Gainwell, 60% roster, probably gonna go... I don't know if it'll go down. Running backs are hard to come by, but 14 for 43 last night. Two targets. Saw the field about as much as deandre swift did swift did get stuffed on i think three straight goal line carries last night which is uh you know he could have had a bigger game is all i'm saying yeah the way i
Starting point is 00:34:16 look at swift is he kind of is in the perfect place for his skill set which his skill set is he is an incredibly athletic running back. I'm not sure that he's a good running back, like vision, decision-making, but if it's there, he is. You laid it out perfectly. He has the speed to break through the line. He reminds me of Spiller, Javid Best. Some of those guys, you just shoot them out of a cannon.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It will still work for DeAndre Swift. Gainwell, I think, is still a pretty strong ad if he happens to be sitting on your waiver wire because it's hard to get work. 16 opportunities, that's fantastic. I would love to have that for my RB2. Well, let's talk. Jalen Warren, 63% roster, takes on Houston this week.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I think Jalen Warren's a pretty solid ad he's a great ad he's not available in most leagues but there's still almost 40% of leagues he is out there he should be available in zero leagues if you're in a league where Jalen Warren is out there this is a player you can throw in your flex on a weekly basis. And we've already seen like a couple of times this year where Najee looked for a moment like, oh, no, is Najee hurt? And man alive, he just like I kind of refused. I was so pro Jalen Warren all offseason. He was a guy I talked up on all the sleeper episodes. And I really wanted you to draft because I think he's super talented but even then I was not someone that thought he could play his way into being maybe the the one on this team I don't know if he can I mean he might not be able to but it's it it seems it seems actually
Starting point is 00:35:58 possible that it could be in a near even split by the end of the season and before the season I thought that was impossible. Yeah, I feel like they have this undying loyalty to Najee. Like Najee must be bringing the coffee every morning to Mike Tomlin and bringing him his paper and saying it because the paper people. Right. Tomlin's a paper guy. They read the paper.
Starting point is 00:36:20 But, yeah, Warren in a 50-50 split. I could see that. When we're talking about lower roster running back options people you want to take a chance on who's the maybe the top two or three guys that we haven't talked about yeah that for me the top two guys Matt Burita if you need to start I still don't believe Saquon Barkley is going to be active for this game it is a much better matchup than we saw last week so in a pinch, like, oh gosh, I have to actually play someone. He would be the guy. If you're just looking more
Starting point is 00:36:52 for a good stash, Tajay Spears. Tajay Spears, the rookie running back on the Tennessee Titans, who is out snapping Derrick Henry right now. He's an explosive playmaker if the wheels fall off in Tennessee or Derrick Henry continues to look bad he's an interesting stash to me and you can look at Henry could get traded absolutely if he's a prime candidate for a trade this year if the Titans were to lose their next two or three games which which seems possible. They haven't really been outstanding. I think this is a very well-managed, well-coached, smart organization. And you might go, hey, Derrick Henry's not our future. We're not going to make the play.
Starting point is 00:37:36 This isn't our year. Let's get something for him now. I could see that happening. They better get him on the field and have him play better so that someone wants They better get him on the field and have him play better. So that someone wants to trade for him? Yeah, I think the pedigree history would – I think teams would be all over it. I don't think they would care about this year at all. Perfect example, I think if James Cook went down to injury,
Starting point is 00:37:59 some unfortunate situation like that for a team like the Bills, I think they would come knocking. And make sure you are paying attention to the Baltimore Ravens situation. It is a situation of unknowns. Gus Edwards, Gus Bus. Gut. Good. Good.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'm sorry, Gus. I thought it was gut. He was having himself an okay day, and then he left the game with a concussion. Justice Hill did not play. I believe that was a toe injury. So we don't know if those guys will be ready to go. If they aren't, Melvin Gordon, Kenyon Drake are the next people.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Look, it's disgusting. Same old stuff for the Ravens. And even worse, they're playing on the road against the Cleveland Browns. So this is break glass in case of emergency, but you should use glass on yourself. I don't think you want this, man. It's the break glass and end it. Yeah, man. That's brutal.
Starting point is 00:38:56 The Browns defense has been good. And I meant to come in today and just say after the weekend, like I had the Browns last place in the division, our division preview. I apologize. I think the browns are outstanding like they're gonna contend who picked them to win the division did you yeah good job uh they need a better quarterback he looked he looked bad this last week he did not look bad the the bail out, man. Bail out. I thought he looked fine. Yeah, I did too.
Starting point is 00:39:29 First time in years. He's also had two top ten finishes in three weeks for fantasy. Yeah, I get that. Jordan loves the top five quarters. He looked bad. 27 for 33. 82% passing. Two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:39:41 No picks. That's bad take. There's no statistical reason you could say that. I can say that statistically that Jalen Hurts had himself a good game, but he looked bad. 82% passer, two touchdowns, no interceptions. What looked bad? His playing quarterback.
Starting point is 00:40:02 He does not look to me like he's back. You're just saying he's ugly. Like he looked bad. Sure. Six incompletions and you're dogging on him. He just looks like he stinks. Let someone else chase after Jarek McKinnon. He only had five touches in the game.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Two of them happened to be touched. This is what he does. I have no interest. I also think you should be looking at Kendre Miller still. Kendre Miller did not do something special in his opportunity, but that was his first game back, first game as a rookie, first game from an injury. He split time with Tony Jones, and Kendra Miller will get more. I know it's like, oh, Alvin Kamara's back, so Kendra Miller's done.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Well, Jamal Williams went on IR. I believe Kendra Miller, sooner rather than later, will completely overtake Tony Jones and still have the opportunity of the Jamal Williams role. You know, it's like, would Jamal Williams, if it was just Williams and Kamara on waivers, would you grab him? Of course you would. Well, I think Kendra Miller ends up in that role.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Are you dropping Josh Kelly? The sunk cost fallacy of you spent fab on him. Are you moving on? Put it this way. Are you going to start him? I think I would start him. What? You would start him?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah, I would take the chance on him if I had to. I mean, it's all about the options you have, but would you start him or A.J. Dillon? You start A.J. Dillon, right? A.J. Dillon. I mean, he hasn't scored four fantasy points in the last two weeks, and it was against the Minnesota Vikings. He plays the Raiders, and he's going to be the starting running back. You could say the exact same thing about he plays the Vikings,
Starting point is 00:41:32 and he's going to be the starting running back. And I did. But they did lose Mike Williams. This is the question. When you're saying, should I drop Joshua Kelly, look at your roster. If you know you're going to start him, there's your answer. Obviously don't drop him. If you're not going to start him this week, get him off your roster. Move on and get somebody
Starting point is 00:41:49 better on the roster. Absolutely. Okay, that makes sense. Wide receiver pickups. Who's your top three names this week? I mean, Tank Dell, if he happens to be there. The guy we now have two games of Tank Dell as a rookie. He looks like a baller.
Starting point is 00:42:05 C.J. Stroud looks like he is absolutely for real. So he would be my number one pickup. If you are looking for a spot start this week, yes, I will admit it, Adam Thielen, old man this week against the Minnesota Vikings, especially if it is still Andy Dalton as the quarterback. So he's a spot starter. Wide receiver seven on the year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:32 He's a starter. He is a starter on an NFL team that is accurate. And then, man. Minnesota, Detroit, Miami the next three weeks for Adam Thibodeau. That's pretty great. I think he's a better pickup than Tank Dale for these three weeks. Well, no, I wouldn't do that. He absolutely could be argued to be the number one pickup.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Adam Thielen is a great pickup. And we have besmirched his age. He looks okay right now. He is getting the ball right now. He's sounding good. He's sounding like this. He's a young man all of a sudden. The next three matchups are fantastic, and I'm hooked.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Breaking news. On a feeling. I saw your finger on a button, Andy. I'm sorry. And I thought you were ready to be hooked on a feeling. We can't play that one anymore. Aw. We're not allowed.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Stupid waz. The Jets have added Trevor Simeon to the quarterback room. They have signed Trevor Simeon. Okay. Starting quarterback, Trevor Simeon. He's better. Probably better than Zach Wilson. He's definitely better.
Starting point is 00:43:39 He's not going to be the starter. They're not bringing him in to be the starter. But at some point soon, there will be, I'm i'm guessing hangnail but it could be something else um that happens to zach yeah i mean there there will be a with the bloats very tiny injury that will allow the jets and this isn't even a joke like i i actually think this is the path that they will end up having so that they don't have to trade or cut him? Yeah, so that they can kind of stick to their guns. He's their dude.
Starting point is 00:44:09 We love him. We hope he comes back soon. He's just not – he's struggling with this injury, so we're going to give him some chance to recover. Probably just put him on the IR, but we're going to bring him back soon. So, yeah, Trevor Simeon should probably be picked up if you're in a two-quarterback league. I think that when they move on from Zach Wilson, it has to be goodbye.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Because I can't foresee a scenario where you paint the picture. Yeah, but look, Zach Wilson has already failed. Then he's failing this time. This time he has Garrett Wilson and Lazard and weapons. He's got a defense that's otherworldly, and he's failing. There isn't a better scenario you'll ever get to have him succeed. He's also been now mentored and had an offseason with Aaron Rodgers. I actually was rooting for him, and I watched him come off the field
Starting point is 00:44:59 with Robert Sala. Did you see that clip? No. No, I haven't seen it. You don't want to see it. Oh, no, I really want to see the head hanging down. There's us kind of joking around about Zach Wilson, but then there's what the crowd was yelling.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Oh, no. When Salah and Zach Wilson came walking off the field together and some of the stuff getting yelled. Yeah, I don't want to see it. It's unfortunate because you can just not be good. And that's okay. Like, that's just the reality of the situation. He could be a backup and make a bunch of money for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So the Jets, if they do move on next year, it would be an $11.1 million dead cap hit. So I guess that's not insurmountable. And look at the draft class of the quarterbacks in that draft class. It's not worked. T-R-A-S-H. All of them. With one Trevor Lawrence at the top
Starting point is 00:45:54 who's probably going to be fine, but Lance and Wilson and everybody else on that list. Fields. It's not been good. But anyways, we're back. Tank Dell, Adam Thielen. If you don't need Thielen soon, then Tank Dell's a great pickup because he's got higher ceiling. He's got a future.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He's got a quarterback I really believe in in C.J. Stroud. And I would spend more on Tank Dell than I would Adam Thielen. Definitely. He is a rookie who is showing out. And that's part of why A-Chan is so special is because there's, you know, look, the path for both of these rookies is more probable that they don't continue getting massive work and they just become, you know, a decent matchup play.
Starting point is 00:46:40 But there's also the path where it's like this is a star and these are their coming out parties and we're about to see it. So you've got to take the path where it's like, this is a star and these are their coming out parties and we're about to see it. So you've got to take the chance at a guy like Tank Dell who had insane production. You look at the first read targets through the first three weeks for Tank Dell. Week one, 14% of first read targets. Week two, 21%. Week three, 31% of the first reads went to Tank Dell. He's looked great. and I'm not afraid of the Pittsburgh Steelers to the degree that I feel like, well, you've got to stash Tank Dell. I'm going to play Tank Dell.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And the numbers are cross-fading for Tank Dell and Nico Collins. I'm not out on Nico, but just saying Tank Dell is their number one wide receiver already. You can't have two first-read targets on the same plate. Right. There's a lot of wide receivers who are worth talking about. We haven't even gotten into the Chargers, so Mike Williams out for the season with the ACL.
Starting point is 00:47:38 They spent a first-round draft pick on Quentin Johnston, who has been unable to get on the field. Joshua Palmer has been on this team for a long time and he's not a true number one is he a number two type of receiver if with when he's on the field with Keenan Allen so how are you guys viewing looking at picking up Palmer or or Quentin Johnston if I needed to start this week it it's Palmer. Okay. Much like the Thielen. It's Thielen and Palmer in that category, and then if I am investing in my future,
Starting point is 00:48:10 then it's Quentin Johnston. It's spinning up on Tank Dell. I think Tank Dell's both, I guess. Tank Dell is a start and a stash. Quentin Johnston, though, the ceiling has to be higher for him than Josh Palmer because we've seen him in a starting role. I'm definitely picking up Quentin Johnston over Josh Palmer because if I need a start this week,
Starting point is 00:48:27 there are other wide receivers I prefer to start this week than Josh Palmer. I'd rather start DJ Chark playing against Minnesota than I would Joshua Palmer. We've seen Joshua Palmer disappoint a lot. Romeo Dobbs is a great pickup. He's available in half of leagues. He's playing against Detroit. We talked about that on Thursday night. So if I need a start, it's not Quentin
Starting point is 00:48:50 Johnston because Quentin Johnston, I don't think you want to throw him right in your lineup. I'm basically, I think I just don't care that much about Joshua Paul. Let me make life difficult for you. I'm going to read you stat lines from a wide receiver that's going to come up in the –
Starting point is 00:49:05 we're talking about Tank Dell. We're talking about Quentin Johnson. Three for 13. Three for 13. Bad. Five for 34. Bad. One for 10.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Awful. Snap count, 59%, then 56%, then 44%. Okay. This is the first wide receiver drafted. Oh, JSN? JSN. Oh, man. Jackson Smith and Jigba on the season.
Starting point is 00:49:31 What you doing, Seahawks? Is getting underutilized. I'm seeing sad faces in the Slack when I revealed this. Very low average depth of target, very low utilization. I mean, we don't have infinite benches, Mike. Are you trading JSN and moving on? Again, this is based off your team. If you have to make a move right now to get production, you've got to do it.
Starting point is 00:49:59 You have to move on. You cannot keep waiting for the breakout. I do expect by the second half of the year, those numbers for JSN will be much better. But that's a projection. That's a breakout. Some teams are 0-3. Some teams are 1-2, and you need points right now.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So I'm looking at these other wide receivers over him right now. Josh Downs had 12 targets this past week. Just 8 for 57 on him, but you would take that in a PPR league every day of the week, something to pay attention to when we're talking about rookies. I still think that will go down when Anthony Richardson comes back because that was a Gardner-Menshew game, and Downs was not. We were talking about Downs when Anthony Richardson was there,
Starting point is 00:50:42 so I agree you should be looking his way, but I wouldn't expect him to have that kind of PPR volume with Richardson back at quarterback. Yeah, it'll go down. And the truth is I just like the fact he's on the field all the time. And Tutu Atwell last night, if he's available in your league still. Yeah, he keeps getting it done. He's a focal point. That's the thing that comes through.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I got a stash question for you. Okay. Would you be preferring to stash JSN right now or Marvin Mims of the Denver Broncos? Fair question. Who Marvin Mims, I don't know what Coach Payton is doing, but Marvin Mims, all the guy is doing for the team is being an absolute electric producer every time he touches the ball, and they're not giving him snaps.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Here's the biggest challenge to me with Marvin Mims, and maybe they play – what's their three-wide percentage? Because maybe we can get them out there all the time. But I don't see any scenario where Judy or Sutton are taking a backseat to Mims based on what we've seen so far this year. And that part concerns me. He's played 27%, 24%, 24% of the snaps. Yeah, but I don't know how often they were trying to run two tight end
Starting point is 00:51:59 versus three wide out. And yet, the past two weeks has been a top 20 fantasy wide receiver. I know, but kick return, that's not going to happen every week. What's your answer, Jay? Mims or JSN? I would stay JSN. I would lean JSN still. I want both these guys on my roster.
Starting point is 00:52:16 This is not anti-Mims. I want to see more and more of Mims. We're going to talk about him. Oh. You know. A little hungry. A little hungry little fella., little hungry, little fella, little hungry, little fella
Starting point is 00:52:28 only had snacks. And now I'm looking for a meal. I want it to be more of a Mims. All right. That's weird. He's a snack. Tight end pickups this week. It is. It's gross. It's gross. My number one pickup is going to be
Starting point is 00:52:44 Luke Musgrave. The matchup with Detroit on Thursday night is outstanding. Not good. Outstanding. They're one of the worst in the league against tight ends. They've been giving up double digits every single week. So, for me, it's Musgrave because I see the athletic – like I see the potential there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:03 He's missed on some big plays just barely. He's, yeah. Musgrave is the pickup. And then Fergie. Yeah, Ferguson has been 27.4% targets per route run this season. That's good. He's finding himself in a very historically valuable role, being the tight end one for Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. So Fergie would be my number two.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Musgrave would be my number one. Fergie just doesn't have a lot of great matchups coming up. He's got the Patriots and the San Francisco 49ers in the next two weeks. So I'm not sure you're looking forward to starting him. Whereas Musgrave has the Detroit Lions followed by the Raiders. So he would be the main pickup. You can always take a shot on Taysom Hill. I know he didn't do anything, but like anytime you're looking at a trash heap and you're like, oh man, am I going to pick up this awful player or that awful player? Just look at ceiling and say they all have a floor of zero. Every waiver fodder tight end has a floor of zero. There's only like Taysom that has a ceiling of 20, although his ceiling is probably even higher.
Starting point is 00:54:10 All righty. Good luck at tight end, everybody. There's not a lot. I mean, you don't just want to chase two targets for four yards and two touchdowns with Donald Parr Hamburglar. But he's done it multiple times now. Yeah, I mean, sure. He's the touchdown machine. If you want times now. Yeah, I mean, sure. The touchdown machine.
Starting point is 00:54:25 If you want to place a touchdown potential bet, then sure. And maybe the role increases for him in Everett because of the lack of Mike Williams. Maybe. But good luck. Defensive options, if you're streaming this week, if you're looking for a start, Cleveland's under 50% roster. They're the number one defense in terms of yards allowed,
Starting point is 00:54:46 points per game allowed, and they play Baltimore at home. Baltimore's offense is one, injured, two, struggling. Yeah, it's the Bengals and Browns as the available pickups that you want to start. The Bengals playing. I have them both, and I don't know who to start. You were talking about this morning. I'm struggling.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I come in, and I'm looking at what he's looking at on his computer, and I'm like, what are you doing there? He's digging into Browns versus Bengals. So let's say both of these are here. How have you decided to sort it? As of this moment, people are going to need to put in their waiver claims. If both are there, what's the order? The order for me is the Bengals over the Browns
Starting point is 00:55:25 because the matchup against Tennessee is good and they play Arizona the following week. And Seattle the next week. Yeah, and the Browns go into a bye week after the Baltimore game. However, the Browns might be the kind of defense you don't want to let go. If they dominate Baltimore this week,
Starting point is 00:55:40 they put up numbers. Like, Miles Garrett sacks the quarterback. But the potential for a big... I always think about that with my defense. I'm like, what are the odds I get bamboozled here, right? Right. The Ravens are the kind of team that can put up a ton of points. I don't know if Tennessee can do that. So, I lean Bengals, but that's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:55:59 There's also another team I'm going to throw out there. You're going to – No, it must be said, Jason. The team that just gave up 70 points to the Dolphins, the Denver Broncos, the awful-looking defense that basically laid down and
Starting point is 00:56:15 forgot how to tackle, they get to play the Chicago Bears. It's the ultimate push-comes-to- shove situation. I'm fine picking them up and playing them. I really am. They are now the – I was waiting for these to come through after that performance.
Starting point is 00:56:30 But they are now the 31st against quarterbacks, 32nd against running backs, 27th against wide receivers. So that one game – Pick them up. It's the old-fashioned stoppable force versus a movable object. That's right. The classic. That's right.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yeah, the Chicago Bears offense. P-U. Oh, boy. It's tough. The Bengals, at least the roster percentage is worth seeing. The Bengals are the same as the Broncos, but maybe you're in a deeper league. And honestly, I think the Broncos will be okay.
Starting point is 00:57:09 The Steelers, if they were there, only... Oh, for sure. You know, they're 70% rostered. The Colts, 6% rostered. Play the Rams. Rams have struggled two weeks in a row now on the offensive side, finishing drives, offensive line woes, sacks given up this past week.
Starting point is 00:57:24 They weren't giving them up up but then they gave up i think six last night maybe seven and so then they play tennessee the next week yeah and so that's it that's another like did you bring up the saints i did not bring them so the saints are great they're a great defense the saints and the steelers are mostly rostered but still available in 35 to 40 percent of your leagues and those two two defenses, I'm just all in on believing. Like, I think I'm going to start them in kind of like the Browns. Until proven otherwise, unless it's the Chiefs, I'm starting them against everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:55 All right. Thanks again to our sponsor, NFL Sunday Ticket, on YouTube and YouTube TV with NFL Sunday Ticket. It has never been easier to keep up with all of your fantasy players. Sign up at youtube.com slash fantasy footballers. One more segment. Full stream ahead. Well, it's time to look for some quarterback streaming options, and there are a few. And you might not smile when you see them in your starting roster,
Starting point is 00:58:34 but you may after the week is done. I'm going to go with the Thursday night matchup, Jordan Love, quarterback four on the season. The efficiency, it's improbable. It makes no sense. And yet Thursday against Detroit, it seems like it could continue. He's also averaging 25 rushing yards a game, so it's that little boost at the, you know, giving you a little bit higher floor for Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:58:57 That would be about 425 a year on the ground. That is not. Yeah, we'll take that. That is not nothing. So I'm going to go Jordan Love against Detroit at home in Lambeau. Yeah. I'm also taking them to win that game. For what it's worth.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Oh, I like it. I like it. They've been in every game. I bet Al likes that. Nah. No. I'll take the pack. I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:59:20 That's who I took. That's who he picked. That's who I took. You should listen to the show. Come on, man. I'm sorry. I thought you took the lines. No.
Starting point is 00:59:26 You should pay attention. For my streaming candidate, he is available in 100% of leagues, as is Mike's. It's Jameis Winston. Famous Jameis going to get out there, throw a couple tutties, throw a couple picks, do what he does. Last year, with this same offense, we saw him come out week one, be a top 10 fantasy quarterback in relief last week.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Played like 35% of the snaps I think somewhere right around there. Had over 100 yards, completed 63% of his passes. He's got Michael Thomas. He's got Chris Olave. And he's Camara now too. Revenge game. He's playing against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Starting point is 01:00:07 How dare you let me go? He's not capable of revenge. No. That's the happiest man on earth. There's nobody more joyful, happy, and content in all phases of life than Jameis Winston. He is, if I may use this word, just adorable. I mean, Jameis Winston. He really is. His interviews. His positivity is contagious. just adorable. I mean, his interviews,
Starting point is 01:00:25 his positivity is contagious. I mean, sometimes he comes across, it's such a goofball, but he is absolutely adorable. Yeah. He is the, did you see the video of Brady talking about the,
Starting point is 01:00:39 getting the edge in games and what made he would look for, it's like Kobe. It's like Jordan, you know know he looks for the smallest offense and and that gives him the fire to want to burn your soul that's something jamis could never do no that's like good tackle good tackle nice sack nice sack yeah oh man nice interception i'm so i shouldn't have done that promise you, Jameis Winston is an incredible hugger. There's no way he doesn't give fantastic, just bear hugs.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Pick you up a little. Oh, yeah. If Papa Josh and Jameis Winston were together. That'd be trouble. Yeah. Yeah, get out of there. Mike. I will go.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Look. I never thought we'd see this day. Steel underpants. It's time to steal up, baby. Oh, yeah. Surprise drop. Steel underpants. We're taking the player who replaced Jameis Winston. It is Andy Dalton, but he will be playing the Minnesota Vikings.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Last week, Dalton threw the ball 58 times. He also plays for the Panthers, by the way. Eight times? Look, 360, two passing touchdowns. Gets to play Minnesota. I want the drop again. I want to see it again. Oh, yeah!
Starting point is 01:01:59 That's a great one. Minnesota just allowed Mr. Herbert to have his first ever 400-plus yard game. They're allowing a 76% completion rate. Who's he going to throw it to? Me. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Who's he going to throw it to, Jason? Me. Adam Thielen. You want to talk about revenge games? Adam Thielen versus the former squad. Wow, that's a good point. I might like the 58 pass attempts and the fact Minnesota will undoubtedly score. I might like this Dalton stream better than all of them.
Starting point is 01:02:31 It's going to be nasty. Full steel ahead. Oh, it is steel underpants, but sometimes you put them on, you feel safer. Yes, you do. From all the perils of life. Ain't no crotch shots happening When you're trying to steal underpants Try it Mac Jones Break that hand
Starting point is 01:02:50 What is he doing He's punching other men in the crotch We frown on that That's a real no no That loses me respect For you I think we're in This is a unanimous agreement.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Yeah. Punching another guy in the junk. In the crotch. I call it a low blow. Yes. I give Matt Jones just a teeny bit of credit because he almost hit it perfectly from the camera. Yeah. So there is a little bit of, I mean, we talked about the NFL.
Starting point is 01:03:20 They don't have enough cameras to catch all the crotch shots that happen. Crotch cams going. Crotch cams going. Crotch cams. Boy, you know what would be fun is to have a camera on the helmet for a fumble and see what happens in the pile. Ooh, actually, that would be legit fun. Just a GoPro sticking up off the top of everyone's helmet. But yes, one of the tenants of our company,
Starting point is 01:03:42 and I think Deuces Alley can attest to this. Of course. We really put this at the forefront of our mission. When we interview for a job, we make sure that people are aligned with this. We're like, gentlemen, nothing to the crotch around here. Only fakes. Sometimes I give Al some fakes. So, sorry. I'm guessing he lunges away.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Yeah. Yeah, but that's,'s yeah we should talk about that on the air um all right anything else uh you drop in justin fields to play any of those three oh no oh does that mean you're playing justin fields jason well over those three the answer is yes if that's what you're saying yeah i mean there's probably someone else on your roster that you can you're not so you're gonna roster two, but I mean, there's probably someone else on your roster that you can bench. So you're going to roster two quarterbacks? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I think Justin Fields is the type of quarterback right now that if you don't want to start him, I personally would not want to drop him. So, yeah, I mean, at that point, you might pick one of these players up and play him over Justin Fields if you feel confident. I mean, feel free to drop him if you've felt the scars and you're mad and you need that cathartic action. I think you can. But again, he will be on many waivers this coming week. Yes, he will. And I don't think we have properly talked about drop it like it's hot enough this season. But when your waivers run tomorrow, you need to look not just at who got picked up, but who was dropped. Because you're going to have the Denver Broncos dropped after
Starting point is 01:05:12 their putrid performance, and you're going to have Justin Fields dropped after his putrid start to the season. Well, those two teams play each other, so they're probably both okay. Yeah. It's going to feel like a bounce back for one of them because they both can't lose, right? Both teams cannot lose. Congrats to both fan bases
Starting point is 01:05:37 on that. Anything else you guys want to discuss? We've got Hungry for More, Let's Talk Trades, looking at trade for and trade away players on tomorrow's episode of the podcast start to the week matchup previews on thursday fantasy face off wheel of shame will be skipping this week on friday oh man and uh guys wheel of shame is going perfect for me yes it is are you you're just uh just cruising in second place all right that'll do it for today's show.
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