Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 5 Waivers + Tyreek Talk, Hole-in-One? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/6

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

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to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Welcome to Tuesday. October 6th, the fantasy footballers podcast, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Waiver Day. Week 4 is over. We had a game. A lot of points.

A lot of points. I mean, mostly good points. There were a few. Oh, the garbage thing. Oh. There was the stinkiest of garbage at the end there. It was, it was dangerous garbage. That was, that was like eating a tenderloin that had been left out all day.

That's dangerous. You would know some about that. I would know a little bit something. But if you hurt my oliva, if Olavi is seriously hurt. I mean, I don't under 4524, you're down 4517. There's three, four minutes left in the game. Tyler Shuck has hurt his left. left hand at this point. There's no conceivable fashion in which you can come back in this game.

No. And you end up... You're trying to get momentum, I guess. What was so weird about that final drive of the game? Because I'm... So I was in a matchup with Jason in a League of Shadows, another one of our leagues. And he needed like 17 points from Shuck and Velae to win. It was just like... I assumed going in and I'm going to win. Like Shuck should do that by himself, no Velae. And we're going into that final drive. I'm up a point. point. I'm an apple point in this game. And the drive starts and it's handoff, handoff, handoff to C.J. Donaldson. Right? It's just, it's just, right. And by the way, he plays football for the Saints. Because Camara was banged up and you're like, okay, we'll take him off the field. Although Camara came back in, he tore the touchdown. Well, because Kendra was like, I got the butterhams. Kendra gets any opportunity Kendra gets, he blows. They apparently, he has five fumbles already this year. It seems, it feels like. That was like that. Is that true?

That's what the graphics said. I mean, that's insane. That's every time you get the ball. He doesn't get the ball that much. It can't be five. That's impossible. Maybe five out of the last 15 carries. Maybe.

I guess I see two, but maybe that's just two lost. But for those that weren't watching the end of this game because you had no reason to, CJ Donaldson starts getting the football. And so it's obvious that if you're going to hand the ball off, the Saints are conceding. Yeah, we're on to week five. You don't hand the ball off a bunch of time. But then all of a sudden, it's like you get the third down. And the bombs.

I mean, he threw a bomb down the sideline trying to get valet, trying to get Olavé. And then they drive down for the dirtiest, stinkiest garbage time stuff that I've ever seen. But what people don't know is, and maybe you do if you're watching it, but like Olave comes on a crossing pattern, gets tackled, hyper extends his right knee. It's as clear as day in the video. Now, it wasn't, it didn't look wild. Like there was no guarantee that this is a major injury or anything, but he limps off the field. Yeah.

What are you doing? And this is not revisionist history. or hindsight being 20-20. We were all in Slack like, please. Stop. Stop. Stop.

Why are these players? I love some shock points. But this is dumb. Yeah, you got to put the backups in and move on to, you know, the next week with your guys healthy. You're a team that is trying to compete in a winnable division. And, man, to put that risk out there. I mean, look, if it goes well, fantasy-wise, yes. We'll take garbage points, but not at that cost.

And, you know, Atlanta's a different team. Oh, yeah. Who is this? Who is this team? This team is, if you want to know the, if this, then that implications of a quarterback change, look no further than the Atlanta Falcons. People don't realize that it's not just like, hey, your offense kind of sucks. Like, if your defense gets a break, guess what, you're a better defense.

You can rush the passer. You can blitz more often. You can keep teams honest. You know what they need to do because your offense is a threat. Or if your defense is having to come on the field in their own red zone because the offense turned it over, the quarterback changes everything for these teams. Did you see the stat, by the way, it was the first two games of the season, Atlanta was the worst offense in football. The last two weeks of the season, they are the best offensive football. That is an insane.

35 points and 45 points. the last two weeks scored by Atlanta. Play action is just a machine now with Bejohn and then Brian Robinson. I was up by like 6,000 points to Mike. There was a point in that game when it started the way it did with Beijon. And I was like, is this a 60 point game from Bejohn coming? Yeah, you were basically up by 60. No, I was up 80.

Yeah, not worried. And then it's like the way that started. But the other B. Robinson bailed you out. Yes. And scored three touchdowns. That was frustrating. That was very, very frustrating. Yeah, I mean, it was absolutely, it was a crazy game.

And, you know, I think Olava is a machine. Bejan is a machine. Drake London with Pinnock is a machine. If you bought low on any of those things. And it was, I know that the quarterback helps get your defense in check. But it wasn't, like, it wasn't completely the offense's fault that they got throttled by the Carolina to Panthers in week two. They lost three to 34.

Like that was, that's not all on, that's not on the offense. Like it, it's just weird. This team has truly transformed. The Saints, my Saints, uh, look, I have enough losing in my life. New Orleans. If you would like to continue to be my team,

I need you to fix it. Yeah. It was a, it was a crazy game and, you know, they're one and three. The, the New Orleans. Saints for all the good that we've seen is one and three at this point in time, Mike. All right. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league.

So yeah, you'll have to monitor Chris Olavé with the potential knee injury and, you know, shake your fist at the sky if he's hurt. Yeah. Also, Shuck, just start running. What happened to that? Where did that guy go? I don't. Because this is the thing, like, the touchdown, Shuck actually, Shuck played okay.

He just, I mean, he got the one garbage touchdown, but the touchdowns went to Camara. So when that happens, it's like, if you aren't running, then it's brutal. But that, that was very bizarre that he didn't. My concern. 63% completion percentage, 286 yards, no interceptions. They did a good job of setting the edge, to be honest. I felt like two weeks ago I said I'm very worried about the Saints offense because of the fact that the offensive line. And the injury to A. Chan was compounding it because you say what you're,

you want about is A. Chan Donaldson? Well, yeah, I mean, like, Alvin Commerer had 23 rushing yards and scored two touchdowns. Donaldson is the next man up after that. Kendry Miller fumbles everything. If you don't have a running game, C, C, colon, Green Bay Packers.

If you don't have a running game and you don't have an offensive line, which is what both of those teams situations are, guess what? You've got you've got two troubled teams, right? You got two, are the Packers one and three? Are they two and two? I don't remember. But, I mean, both of these teams have

the same problem. Should be two. But the pass rush, there was a point in this game where Tyler Shuck, yeah, they're two and two. There was a point in the game where Tyler Shuck just looked skittish to me. Because he knew what was coming in. Yeah. He was getting squished. And he played, I think, as good as you can play with that situation, he was willing

to take massive hits, but you've got injury risk now on the table for him. You talk about don't want to run the football. I mean, like him, like I get it. You're probably tired from getting up. Lamar Jackson, ankle. Outside chance to play in week five, could miss multiple games. but injured is not considered,

injury is not considered long-term or surgical. This seems like the classic high ankle sprain, which the data says you basically either miss no games or three games. So hopefully he's back this week. I will say that you would expect when he gets back him to not be quite as mobile, which is a shame because he was playing outstanding. I mean, even this. So good.

Even this last week, you look and it's like, oh, he had a good fantasy game. He played half the game. He would have been the quarterback one on the, week if he, you know, got a second half. So be healthy, Lamar. Ben Johnson said Tyson-Bagent will start in week five against the Packers as we wait for Caleb's return. Secret of agent man, getting another start.

Bears are three-in-one. Yeah, they're doing all right. Sequin Barclay, week-to-week with a hamstring injury. Tank Bigsby is on IR. Yeah, that's a good thing. Core muscle repair surgery. Core muscle number two with one guy with a pre-eastern. pre-hernia. That's the report on

wink. He doesn't have a hernia. Yeah. It's not a hernia. It's just like a pre-hernia. I don't have diabetes. I have a couple pre-hernias. I've got pre-diabetes. I think we all have pre-hernius at this point. That's true. At any moment picking up something heavy. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm pre-hernia for sure. I'm ready to have a hernia. At any moment. At any time. Seahawks are signing Joe Mixon. He is going to join the Seahawks. So you will now have a Mixen Salami Emmanuel Wilson

Waver Day today we'll talk about it and Judarian Price on IR and Charbonate I forgot there's five Yeah It's

You know what they say When you have five running backs You've got five You've got five It is very bizarre For For Joe Mixing to launch Incredible work

By Joe Mixing's PR team Of putting out that hype video Of him being the one Like What happened to Joe Mixing is like, you could have told us.

And then immediately, you got signed the next day after that video. He really did. You know what I want to have happened more than anything? I want for the first time ever, this version of the Seahawks to have a workhorse that is just Joe Mixing.

And it gets all the work. What's funny is that, and we'll just, I'll wait. Let's wait to have the conversation around Emmanuel Wilson in the waiver show. But I have thoughts about what's going to happen here. I will be wrong. T. Higgins is day-to-day with his adductor, Strange. Jamar Chase is in the concussion protocol.

And here's the thing. We're going into week five. Mike already, that's what Mike's sound. Give me that sound again, Mike? Mm-hmm. So listen, the Cincinnati Bengals have a week six buy. So concussion protocol is a, it's a tough achievement on a one-week basis. Yeah, that's kind of its own thing of like, if Chase clears, he'll be fine.

It's T. Higgins. That's the bigger problem. Well, but they probably are going to need these wide receipts. to beat the, oh, it's the dolphins. Okay. To me, it's like if Chase is on the edge here. And you've been winning with your defense, I don't know. You could definitely secure a couple of injury situations by giving them the bye week.

I don't know. I mean, we saw what happened to the Vikings. They were like, we're going to go without Justin Jefferson. They barely beat the dolphins. Oh, I thought you were going to say they won. They won. They did. They did.

It worked fine. It didn't work fine. It was very close. Look, sticky-kisicky this week against Miami. If one of those guys is out, then yes. Wasn't it Hawkinson with 13 catches against Miami? Last week? Yeah.

So something to pay attention to here on the waivers. All right, ESPN's Adam Schmfter reporting Broncos. Some guy we don't know. Pat Bryant will miss a few weeks suffering a sprained ankle. That is positive news because the mechanism of the injury was like this might be, it might be the year. Yeah, so they got good news on him and Pat Sartan in terms of not being season-ending injuries. Tank Dell will have his practice window opened this week for the- I remember that guy.

For the O and four Texans. This is wonderful. I mean, it's just like if he gets back and plays football on a weekly basis. This isn't, forget fantasy. Yeah, I was going to say. We're way off from like having him be relevant. Just the human. If he gets back and plays football on a regular basis, what a great thing.

Oh, here we go. Cardinals. Oh, yeah. Paris Johnson, their left tackle tore his bicep, will be out for the year. But also, Jeremiah Love tweaked his other ankle in the week four loss. So, you know, that's a bit of an answer to the post-game press conference where we were talking about yesterday. He was like, put somebody else in. And then he didn't get a snap on the final drive. And we were like, what are you doing?

That's what they were doing. That would make, this is good news. And this is my fault because he was my trade for candidate. And I already have three my guys in an MVP. Stop killing everybody. Three my guys in an MVP out. And so I bring up Jeremiah's love's name. And he's like, I got to go all in on Deshawn Watson, man.

You got to you got to claim them. Bright days ahead, right, Andy? I mean, I signed Jamar Chase in our chop league. And he got a concussion instantly. Sorry, Mike. That's all right. You were collateral damage on that one. But my team will be done after this week if he misses the week.

So, yeah, so Jeremy, I love, you know, Tyler Algiers is a conversation today. Because how much work does Love get this week? And that game environment's going to be juicy. Who do they play? The Cardinals Lions. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, the Lions.

Yeah. There's two games this week that are, what, 54 and a half? Rams and Buffalo? I don't remember. Kyle would have, yeah, Rams Buffalo. Yeah. Oh, boy. and there you go.

We'll take a break. We'll talk waivers. Perwire presented by T-Mobile. All right. We're here, guys. We have bye weeks. The Chiefs and Panthers are not here this week. So Ken Walker and that fantastic start,

Rashid Rice, who will get an extra week to recover. Walker probably needs a little bit of a rest. Honestly, yeah, on pace for 400,000 opportunities. But no Mahomes, no Kelsey, you know, no Tetaroa McMillan. a break as well. Or Chuba. He's been so good. So week six, we have four teams,

week seven, four teams, but this week just two. Let's go ahead and jump into the waiver wire. Starting at the running back position, we can continue the conversation here. 61% rostered. He was a pickup last week. But Emmanuel Wilson, playing against the Chargers, 21 for 81 and a touchdown,

four targets, another touchdown through the air. DeDarine Price on IR. George Salami's just, you know. He's who we thought he was. He's an undrafted free agent who had like a dozen touches in his career before this year, and he's not that good. They signed Joe Mixon, true, but Joe Mixon's not going to come right in and, you know, immediately take over. They've got Charbonnet's practice window open. That doesn't mean he's playing this week.

That means they've got 21 days to activate him to the starting roster. You see his left quad? Yeah. It looked a lot smaller than the right quad. Oh, it's like... That happens. Yeah, I mean, it's normal. This is why people are always surprised when we're talking about, like, people coming back off of injuries, there's a ramp up here.

Like, Malik neighbors getting off to a slow start. Except for one dude. Except for... Yeah, there's a man. Except for George freaking kid off. Yeah, there's a man. Did you see? He's different.

He hit 19.5 miles per hour on his touchdown coming off of torn Achilles. Any dude. I think that was faster than Rashid Shaheed did in that game. Or one of the studs. But you just know he's going to. I don't want to say it out. Stop it. It just always has.

It's what he does. He is awesome. He is awesome. I adore him. He was my guy last year. He's fantastic for fantasy when he's out there. Stay out there. So I think Wilson is the, he's probably the number one running back.

It's just the question of do you feel like the work will continue? because that's what this is. It's not about necessarily who's the greatest player at this point. It's who's going to get the work. I'm just concerned about how much FAP. It's not whether he's a big pickup. It's just... He's also quite rostered.

He's quite rostered. Like, I'm going to say this for sure. Like, I'd much rather have Ollie Gordon rest of the season than Emmanuel Wilson. Yes. Oh, for sure. I think Joe Mixon will get work and more work and more work in this offense. But at one point. I don't know how soon it's going to happen.

and I do think he's going to get, like at some point in this season, he'll be getting as much work, if not more than Emmanuel Wilson. Right, but Wilson's just like, this is a temporary fit. Well, San Francisco at home, Denver on the road, then Kansas City for the next three weeks. I'm just saying my spend would be desperation only. I agree. He's not a huge pickup for me, but he is a one week pickup, in my opinion. I don't think he's going to go away because he's played his way onto the field,

but I don't want anything to do with the Seahawks running system right now because Charbes Charbonnet? I mean. So Emmanuel Wesson should be picked up. Charbonnet should be picked up. Joe Mixon should be picked up in certain situations. Those three names already make you have a problem. Exactly.

Because price will come back. Absolutely. So that's where I'm saying in general, I don't want to rely on the Seahawks team. This week, I think Emmanuel Wilson gets a lot of work. I think their hand is kind of forced right now while they're getting. getting these other guys involved. They're waiting for people to come back. Emmanuel Wilson will get work. He's a fine enough start. But, but then talk like, would you rather have him or Will Shipley, who now might be the only guy in town for the Eagles? They will

definitely bring somebody up. Their practice squad, let's see, it's a play the hits type of a situation. We have Jaden Blue. We have Damien Pierce and we have Carson Steele. One of those guys is coming up. Will Shipley will... I mean, Damien Pierce has had some success in the past. I don't know who's going to be the, like, I don't know who's going to come in and really be part of the timeshare, but one of them will. I mean, it feels like Shipley is sort of a, maybe one to two week situation where I could see him competitive for you. Like, he's not rostered at the level that Emmanuel Wilson is. So I think on a lot of boards, on a lot of running back list, it's going to be him at the tippy top.

this week is Jackson I know it's not good no next week what is the status of Sequin because we know that tank big TV is on IR I believe it was called week to week okay

which I will say this this is an important part of this you talk about these other players that are being brought up and maybe they'll be involved and I'm sure they're not going to just give 100% of work to any running back nobody gets that but

I do think Will Shipley is a very good player that is that shouldn't be lost he's an excellent pass catcher and a quality back. So should he get all the opportunity, I think he'll do well with it. Not a great matchup with Jacksonville,

but I prefer Will Shippley to Emmanuel Wilson. So then archetype-wise, you have Will Shipley and Austin Echler, which, yes, Eckler is a... Echler looked kind of okay. Echler is definitely older, but in his first game, you know, kind of off of the couch, four carries, two targets, Bill Kroski got a bunch of targets for him.

Will that hold up? Or will they have Echler take over that job? Well, you know, they had a different quarterback in there. I do think that targeting commanders right now is, you know, we'll talk about Antonio Williams, but you expect to get Jaden Daniels back. I think this week. We've heard it's possible.

Yeah, it's possible this week, not a guarantee. But that just helps everybody. So if you want to talk, you know, the Austin Eccler, the offense should get a little bit better. The other two major names, in my opinion, are going to be Tyler Algier, who we just talked about now that we know that Love is dealing with another injury. He's 46% rostered. Alger is. And then Keaton Mitchell, who has seen snaps and targets increase three consecutive weeks. Keaton Mitchell seems to be something that they want to do.

And there was a very... By they, you mean... Well, both. Marbley McDaniel. Oh. Because there was a pretty contentious line of questioning to Harbaugh, and it was it was logically correct the way that they phrased it to him. And they basically said, well, you know, Hampton had the most opportunities in week two.

And then all of a sudden he's got reduced opportunities. After the fumble. And they're like, well, you know, we just want to do what's best for the team. This is how we, what we believe is best for the team is to use all three guys. And he's like, well, wasn't that best for the team starting in week one? if like if it was best for the team why didn't you do that in week one and two and he's just like I think I've answered your question I think he has like this is now where we are maybe we thought it was the best way in weeks one or two and we've changed our minds yeah I mean and keyed

Mitchell was coming off an injury to start the season so that could have been some acclamation I'm very concerned with the the direction that things are going there yeah you should be there the team hasn't won a game, hasn't looked good in a game. They have a slog of the next, still the next five games are games that they will probably be underdogs in. And it's a little tricky because the snaps themselves are fairly close. But Kyle Betts, I don't know which one of you is on there. You shared something yesterday. Maybe I'll find it on Betts's socials.

But the actual utilization, the running, the rushing attempts. Yeah, we need a no opportunity. The rushing attempts are the ones that are going haywire. Let me see if I can find that real quick. Hampton. So his share of running back carries over the last three weeks, 82% to 63% to 38%. That's weird, man.

So he played fewer snaps in both those guys, but his rushing share has been smashed. And so... Well, it's because he's been playing really poor. Oh, wait, no, he's looked good every time he's touched the ball. That's right. Says you. Says the analytics as well. I mean, look at the actual.

I think that he's looked okay. I would say I'm more on Mike's side with that, but I think a lot of it is it's intangible factors. It's the fumbles. It's passing down work. Are you in the right place at the right time? We don't see when a guy's run in the way they're supposed to or not. Something has gone sideways for the whole entire team. You tell me that you have a wide receiver you can figure out there?

Nope. Can't play the quarterback wide. out a running back, but otherwise, oh wait, what about tight end? I was going to say, don't forget about Gadsden. He can't be played. I mean, that is, it's not just that they're a terrible team. They literally have nobody you can play. So, yeah. It's okay. They've got Denver, Kansas City, the Rams. So look, Algear against Detroit this week. It's for the best. Just let, I mean, I, sorry. I think Al-Gia is my favorite pickup. Algear? Over Keating Mitchell? Based on the fact that we just found out,

more about the news on Jeremiah Love. Now Love probably won't miss. But I think the fact that the matchup is against Detroit who can't play defense. I think the Cardinals are the best offensive situation. Will Shipley's going into a complete

disgusting mess of offense right now. Like Will Shipley's dependent on Jalen Hertz and no Devante Smith and no Lane Johnson. Like that's a tougher situation than Arizona scoring against Detroit. That would be my logic of it. So if I'm looking one week's start, plus Emmanuel Wilson's over 60%

roster, Algiers at 46%. That's the way I would go. Now Echler, Keatmanichael, they're going to have like kind of a long-term committee value that they're going to be mixed into stuff. You're not going to get zeros from them. But, you know, I wouldn't spend up big

money on them. I agree with the cost. I'm not going all in. Wilson, I think, is the best I agree. He's the best temporary guy. And another. I struggle between Shippling and Keaton Mitchell at two.

Like just the, not that Keaton Mitchell is very desirable right now. It's just the way that things are trending. And then you add in, what was it, six, six targets? Is that what he had? Yeah. I mean, 10 carries and six targets.

Like, it's tough in the running back streets for fantasy football. That's not the worst. Yeah, Keaton Mitchell definitely should be picked up. I would prefer him over Alger simply because I, It seems like the coaches want to have Jeremiah Love, you know, be the guy. We saw that a couple weeks ago. If he's banged up, it might not be able to happen right now. The coach seems like they want Keaton Mitchell to be the guy, which is awful.

It's also worth noting Chris Brooks is dealing with a potentially significant injury for the Packers. We didn't mention it in the news. We should have. But Marshaun Lloyd had been cut by a lot of people. So he's only 51% rostered. I don't want him. I don't want Caleb Johnson. I don't want any of the offense.

I don't want any of them. But Caleb fumbled again because, of course, he had the only good run of the entire day and he followed it with a fumble. It's like the three stooges behind center for Green Bay. Didn't Lloyd fumbled too? Oh, of course he did. I mean, this guys are just. Of course he did. Of course he did.

I mean, it's the, dude. They are so stupid. They need Josh Jacobs so bad. It's been ugly. So let's let's talk whiteouts. We need to move, move on. Romeo Dobbs, 59% rostered,

you know, there's an injury to Mac Hollins. Antonio Brown's not back soon. The only little caveat, or AJ Brown, sorry. The only caveat here is that they play the Raiders, they play the Jets, both of those teams, the Chicago Bears, and the Miami Dolphins have actually been bad

for wide receivers the next four weeks, but I think Dobbs is a great pickup. I know the dolphins. The Jets are just a succubis. Yeah, the Jets. It's not because they're shutting everyone down. they're just like, what if the game was half over already? They're like, what do you?

Come on, let's play. They're the tortoise and no hair. I mean, they are bad. But let's talk about the top pickups here at wide receiver. I think Romeo Dobbs, he's mostly roster, but he's a great pickup with. Mack Hollins had a non-contact calf injury, and it's not something that's going to be like super long term. It wasn't Achilles.

But I expect that he will probably miss a game or two. And in that environment, they finally. started figuring out how to use Romeo Dobbs. He looked good. So I think he would be like, he would be my clear guy I want the most at wide receiver. He's probably, he's probably rostered. He's a 59% and you have to ask, like, watching Drake May those first three weeks, that was a, like, emotionally destroyed man. There was no confidence.

Did he get some of that back where, like, everyone, you, you know, you know his biggest problem this. week. What's the biggest problem this week? My Raiders. Ah, yes. My Raiders are going to be as big as problem. Sure. That's a good, I don't think that's a bad game environment, though.

I'm saying that, like, when we talked about, it looked like he had the yips, Drake May. You're like, did he get his groove back? Because if he did, then Romeo Dobbs looks even better. There are two players that I think are like secret starts that are low rostered and very interesting. They both are actually rostered in 15% of leagues. Keon Coleman and Antonio Williams because Keon Coleman and Antonio Williams both have a missing wide receiver one potentially for this week. We don't know about DJ Moore. They said not long term, but you may give him a week this time because he played through the injury last time.

Probably should. You should. And then Antonio Williams with no Terry McLaurin, eight targets for Antonio Williams, seven for Keon Coleman. Coleman was much better with his targets. He was six for 116 and 1. The game environment, the Rams. That should be high scoring. I really like Keon Coleman as a one week start with longer term potential.

Yeah, I do too. I mean, however long. They delete Dalton Kincaid. However long DJ Moore is out, I believe that Keon Coleman will be a valuable piece. He's looked the part. Obviously, the coaches spent the entire offseason being like, you know, we love them. If DJ Moore is there, I am very hesitant to start Keon Coleman. Yeah, I would probably be.

But I like both of those players. And Antonio Williams is fun because this is a rookie who has looked really good. He hasn't been on the field that much. He's been playing like 40% of snaps. But every time he's had the opportunity, he's been good. They go to him. And, you know, last week he had a massive touchdown that was called back on penalty. They didn't have Jaden Daniels.

And so now all of a sudden, if you're without Terry McLaurin and Antonio Williams is on the field and he has Jaden Daniels and he's a rookie. that can ascend and become better, more integrated into the offense. That's a fun pickup to me. There are a lot of other names. I want to have the Tyree Kill conversation. Yes. Because Tyree Kill is obviously not rostered right now. Oh, he is.

He's shockingly rostered quite a bit. What? I meant on an NFL team. Oh, yes, that is true. He currently has no NFL team. He's 54% rostered? Yeah. You degenerates.

It's a result of the last handful of a day. Oh, man. Hope is a hell of a drug. Joe Mixon was getting picked up all over the place on Sunday before we even had a team. The thing with Tyreek, the chiefs are on by this week. They're the natural destination. They're not the guaranteed destination. Tyreek is a, he's got an ego.

He wants to get paid properly for his commiserate with his history. Yeah. And I'm not positive that the team, that the chiefs are willing to pay that money right now. So we just basically. So when is he ready? Yeah, we don't have answers to those questions. And he doesn't go on an IR. He takes a roster spot.

that is brutal at this time of year. Like, I dropped Darren Waller this morning because they're going on buy. I just don't even, I can't even hold Waller over the buy. I'd rather have another player to put on this roster that has a chance to do something this week and give me trade value or starting value with the buy week starting. You don't know when he's back. He was originally targeting November. November's not that far away, but it's several weeks, obviously.

Fantasy football time. Yeah, it's forever. He could come back sooner, maybe because of being forced into action. with the injuries that the Chiefs, wide receivers, you know, Corps already has, familiarity with the system, with the enemy, with Mahomes. To me, Tyree Kill is a very important pickup. You've got to look at your roster. You've got to look at your bench size.

You've got to say, am I able to hold a guy that might not play? Is he going to be great? I don't know. Probably not. But you know what his talent and ability could be if it hits. You look at guys like Stefan Diggs, who, He's not the same Stefan Diggs that he used to be, but he's really relevant for fantasy football. You're talking about in Washington or last year?

Both. So like if Diggs is sitting there on the waiverware, though, and I tell you who can't play for six weeks, let's just pretend that happens, right? Because I think it's a good exercise. If you're getting Diggs production out of Tyree Kiel. Not worth it. Well, and I'm not sure it gets better than that. Rashi Rice is not long-term hurt. Yeah, we didn't mention that.

The Rashi Rice news was that he was a baby. I mean essentially. I will never attack a man because I have no idea what it felt like. But the news was more positive that it could just be a slight hamstring injury. But look at this. Like Tyquan Thornton. His was not slight. No, no, his injury is 12 to 16 weeks, playoffs maybe.

But Tyquan Thornton had a 25 point game for this offense, right? So that's, I mean, he could come in and be Thornton. But if you say he's Thornton, nobody was fighting for Thornton on the waiver wire. If he came in and he's digs, you said he's not worth it. So that means it's got to be better than dig. For a hold. For a hold, right? Like, if AJ Brown is out there and you're like, you've got to hold him on your bench, no IR spot for six weeks, we'd all be like, yeah.

Right. So what is the- That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm not saying that the probability, I'm not saying that the probability is high that he comes back and is a star. I am absolutely saying that's possible. I believe it's possible that Tyree Kill comes back and is a top 15 wide receiver for fans. No implications here. I'm not trying to disprove that.

I'm just pointing out. 2024 before the injury, Tyree Kill, was 81 for 959 in 17 weeks. Okay. So, I mean, that was not good. Right. And then Miami last year in four weeks, he's been 10 points a game for the last two weeks. So I'm just saying he's years removed with an injury. So what would you spend to have the hold?

Like, what are you going to spend? Tell me what you're going to do? in our league of record. We have millions of people listening. I will probably... Because I'm not... I'm not putting a bid in on it. I will probably drop like 20% of FAB? You will get him. Fantastic. So Kansas City wise... But your team is unique.

Kansas City wise, because that's the... I think, Jay, what your target is, is you're like... I think that Tyree Kill ends up on Kansas City. Right. Yes. Okay. So in the meantime, while he's not playing, these guys are lower on the waiver wire, but I think... think you got to lump them in. It's like, what, what does Kansas City do in the meantime? Because they're on, they're on by. But even though Rashid Rice, the news is good, I would expect him to miss week six. And Thornton won't be out. So what is the move there? Who are that,

do you like, Cybers Allen was the preseason guy that he was, we get one chief a year, every, every single season that he's a late round pick that has something that the Twitter Hive likes about. I don't care about either guy. You're going to say Jalen Royals and Cyrus Allen. I don't care about either guy because we've gone through years and years of the Justin Watson's and Thorntons and like none of those guys are going to be a focal point for Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.

So me personally, I'm not wasting my time on it. Cyrus Allen, the way that the game unfolded. Justin Ross, Skymore. Yeah, the way the game unfolded was that basically Jalen Royals came in for Rushy Rice and Cyrus Allen came in for Thornton when they went down. That's not a guarantee that those are the roles that they would inherit. But that's the evidence we have. That's what I would be working with.

So if Rishi Rice's injury is not long term, then Jalen Royals isn't that valuable. Cyrus Allen would be the guy I would pick up ahead. But then if Tyreek comes in, that's worthless. They're going to buy. So I do not think I'm going hard after either. You know, zero dollar bids on either. They're fine, but I'm not going hard after them. If you, go ahead, Mike.

That's interesting to me of being willing to dump 20% on chasing the dragon of Tyree Kill when these guys are actually on the team. I mean, you know, remember the ceiling comp. It's a ceiling thing. And I do think Tyree Hill's ceiling. I'm 2024, when he wasn't that good and it was a couple years ago, he also was playing for two, but not just to a missed a third of the season and was gone. So that was, you know, it's like if he comes back to a team that is. needy with BNAMI with Mahomes. We've seen it work. And we've also seen like when Hall of Fame level players come back, you know, there's, there's a lot of.

He's going to be 33. Yeah. We have, you know, it's shooting your shot based on your situation. I think one of the best sneaky starts that you could have this week is actually going to be Dante Myers, wide receiver, Cincinnati Bengals. Could be. plays Miami, had nine targets, played 89% of snaps. You're like, who's that?

I get it. You've never heard of him. Dante Myers came in and was the beneficiary. They don't have Yoshivas. They have an injury to T. Higgins. And T. Higgins, if he's anything, he's a great player, and he recovers slow. And then Jemar Chase, do we have him this week? There's a world where Dante Myers and Mike Gassiki are the top two receiving targets

alongside Chase Brown for the Bengals for one week against Miami. I'm just saying. That just means it. I'm with you that it's a strong one week. And you can put them on. Most people out there that aren't listening to the show can add Dante Myers for a dollar a fap. No one in your league is going to, they'll be fighting for Tyreek.

And you can add Dante Myers. And no one will know. And you can start it. That's if those guys are out. I agree. What about Mitch Tinsley, the other wide receiver there who has the same pathway? I'll take the guy who got nine targets. Yeah.

Like he was already out there when everybody was actually healthy. No targets for Tinsley, 53% of snaps. He is a big play guy. I've seen those, the deep balls have gone to him before. Was he the one that was with Buffalo? Was it Tinsley that was with Buffalo?

Was he always with Cincinnati? Yeah, I guess it's always Cincinnati. Somebody flashed, I think he flashed in the preseason one of these years. Maybe that's why I recognize the name. But, you know, the other name, I want to just throw it out through real quick. Concepcion,

62% rostered. Roman Wilson, only 7% rostered. Roman Wilson's interesting to me. The snaps are just microscopic. So you're like, if you don't have snaps, can you rely on this guy with Aaron Rogers? That's the scare of the situation. But Malik Washington, these are like next tier down.

Khalil Shakir should get work. Kalil Shakir will score exactly eight fantasy points this week. If you're into that, you could do worse. You could also, if you're into that, just pick up Malik Washington. Yeah, Malik Washington in a full PPR league. He's about, he is just like, whoever in the league is like, I need a receive, I need got to borrow a receiver this week. Yeah.

Can you, can someone spare a receiver? You're like, yeah, the waiver wire. It's got Malik Washington. Always, yeah. Just play them. You'll get 50 to 70 yards. And then you just, it's like do the, find a penny, leave a penny, take a penny. He is Kalishekir for the Dolphins.

You'll get 10 points if you're in a PPR league, which is not bad. Right. Drop candidates at wide receiver. Don Tavian Wix, Cortland, Sutton, Johnston. I would be willing to drop all three for sure. Cuge is dropable. Man, I don't know that I would drop drops.

I wouldn't drop Wix just a. I would not either. Sutton and Q. I'm fine moving on. It's just wild because the last two weeks, like Wix. Wix goes to Jacksonville, your quarterback threw for net negative five yards in the same. second half. I think you're very big play dependent on

Dante and Wix. Yeah, you are, but we've seen it already. I mean, 73 yards week one, 74 yards, week two, two down weeks since then. But Wix himself is getting open. So it feels like if they got to figure something out. I mean, if they don't have to. For four weeks, you're probably dropping him for most of the guys we talked about though, right? The earlier wide receivers. I mean, Dante Myers for this week. For this week, yeah, assuming the injuries go as we think.

And of course, Coleman and Dobbs. But Wix isn't like a, I'm just getting rid of him at all costs. Okay. Let's take a break. We'll talk tight ends. Well, the story of tight in this week is T.J. Hawkinson, 13 for 119.

And frankly, he looked pretty good. He caught all 13 of the targets. I thought he looked solid. Maybe he's taken more time than expected to come back from injury where he didn't look like the old T.J. Hawkinson last week. This is one where it's like you're betting on Jefferson missing again. But also it could be a trend. You said, hey, we don't know what it looks like with Kyler Murray. Maybe we do now. Maybe Kyler Murray, who we know from Arizona, doesn't like to take a hit, is going to throw the ball. I mean, his problem, he throws

the ball short now. Yeah, it's really annoying. It's disgusting. Hawkinson was with Murray against Tampa Bay where he put up four targets, two for 11. In week three, you think? Yeah. Murray played week three. Yeah. Yeah. So we have, we only have two games of Murray. One was awesome for Hawkinson. Yes. And the other one was like your tight end. Jefferson, is that the game Jefferson went out then, though? Yes. Okay. So we don't have, if Jefferson's completely out. You're saying, maybe game playing. I just mean like Jefferson was, when did he even leave that game?

12% of snaps. He left at the very beginning. Okay. In 15 games without Jefferson in his career. He's averaged six targets per game in those games. Britain's Strange. We talked about his snaps and route share going up. Mike Gassicki. Yeah, like Gassiki. I mean, Gassiki is sneaky. If they're both dealing with the injuries, you know, if we're doing our, our calculus here, for, if Bengals are out and Jefferson is out, I would rather play Gassiki. I'd still play Hawkinson. I would be Hawkinson in that situation, but I think both are great pickup and plays this week if their respective wide receivers are out. We got, um, Friday the 13th here, 12.7% rostered 10 targets 8 for 82.

Is that Michael, Mikel, you mean Halloween? Oh, yeah, I do mean Halloween. I was like, I'm trying to find a Jason. You're looking for a Jason. Jason or a Vorgies of some guy. Michael Mayor, man. In the month of October? I know. It's early October, and I'm old.

8 for 82 for Michael Mayer, though. Like, would you rather flex Michael Mayer or Trey Tucker? I was like people are really slow on the uptake here it's not the right movie we got Lord of the Rings here I would you would you flex Tucker or mayor I would rather flex Tucker I think

I was trying to set you up to pick the right answer oh me or cousins and company they at least last week they love the tight end position like no one else does yeah it was it was funny because It was like, man, Michael Mayer's getting everything in that game.

Not two weeks ago, Mayor was the old digits. Oh, so did, so did Brock Bowers. Because of the, well, 32 yards. Three for 32. Wait, do you score then? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, look, he's a part of the offense.

No, he's playing more snaps than Brock Bowers. So I just think he's, he's a funny. We don't have a lot of like side tight ends in the history of fantasy football where you're like, you know, Bowers is in every week's start, but then Michael Mayer's like, relevant? Like they don't have wide receivers at all. Correct. Beyond Trey Tucker. I don't even know. Who is the highest targeted guy outside of Trey Tucker at wide receiver last week? Cody White? Is that who I'm thinking of? Let's find out. I just think it's a funny offense.

Because you also had Ian Thomas scored a touchdown and got a bunch of targets. CSCTucker was eight, White with five. Yeah. Michael Mayer was 10 targets and then Ian Thomas was involved. I also think Tyler Higby, is worth mentioning. I know he was definitely someone that you have to play if Puka is out. Puka came back. And so it's like, we're not going to play him. He still had six targets.

He was five for 67. This is a game environment. That's one of those 54.5 point over under games where Buffalo is going to go and score. They're going to be throwing a lot. And so Higby has been involved. And the fact that all of, you know, it's funny because this was a team where it was like, they've got so many good tight ends.

but I don't like them because there's so many. They all got injured. They're all gone. So Higby's kind of last man standing there. And so, you know, if you just want a piece of that game, he will cost you nothing. Defense is this week, my favorite, probably the Bengals against Miami. Jacksonville plays Philly. That's another amazing one.

Jacksonville's the number four scoring fantasy defense at this juncture of the year. They're a good defense. And the Eagles are beat up. So I don't think, I don't think you're a. at risk of a problem in that one. I don't think you're at, like, the Eagles might fight and win, but you're not winning with 30 points. They're winning 17 to 14 or something. And then the Raiders play the Patriots, and the Raiders have been one of the higher scoring offenses. It didn't happen last week against Kansas City, though. It just depends on which Drake May shows up.

Because if Drake May looks like he did last week, it's not a good matchup. If Drake May looks like he did to start the season, you know, wheels up. Do you want, would you risk that, the Drake May variable Or would you look at the Cowboys against Tampa Bay, which is going to be Jalen Daniels again? Yeah, I think the Cowboys and the Commanders' divisional opponents, you're targeting the quarterback. You're targeting the undrafted Free Agent rookie quarterback in the Tampa Bay matchup, or you're targeting James Winston, who, yeah, he might score on you, but you've got a lot of pick six opportunities. Yes, you do. I would much prefer the commanders to the Cowboys.

I don't really want to put the Cowboys defense on my team. Yeah, I mean, the Cowboys defense is awful, obviously. Negative one in one the last two weeks, and I know who you're targeting there. So you could try to be opportunistic, but I'd like the commanders at home more. Sure. And then Cleveland plays the Jets, and the Jets are slow, and so points are slow. And Cleveland's defense has been pretty good. That game is already in the third quarter.

That game is currently in the third quarter. Unfortunately, it won't finish before any of the other games. The Jets are ruining things. I mean, it really is like... You never looked up and saw them on offense. No, they never. They are just, they are, it's funny because it's like, you want to be like, oh, it's not a good defense.

There's a great team to target. It's like, no, no, they're so slow that they are going to, they're going to always look like a good defense somehow. I mean, you literally have to, my brain went to like, okay, you play this game and the bears have 89 plays and you have 35. And I start thinking to myself, like, that's basically like saying in the scale set by the Jets, the Bears got 12 quarters of football on offense. And the Jets got four if the Jets set the scale for how a game goes. That's wild.

You're like, who's going to score more fantasy points? The team with 12 quarters or the team with four? Yeah, it works if you have a truly elite defense. but if your defense just allows them to pick up third down or an elite running game and have these long drives it doesn't work for you it's just funny it's a funny story that was the waiver wire presented by T-Mobile

when you're updating your roster right before kickoff you've got coverage that you can count on just another reason game days are better with T-Mobile check it out at T-Mobile.com slash membership stock quarterbacks full stream ahead I think we'll let Mike go first here because He has the lowest

rostered option by far on our streaming quarterback segment. I went to put him in the Did you? Yeah, absolutely. He's a great start. All right, we'll jump in. Steel underpants. Jump into your steel underpants? Yeah, that could be painful. Yeah.

From what I hear. All right. Doesn't really protect you. The parts you want protected are very exposed. It's Jacoby Brissette against Detroit. I don't love the fact that they just lost their left. tackle. Being the Cardinals.

Yeah, yes, thank you. The Arizona Cardinals, but a 54.5 point over under the Detroit defense allowing over 300 passing yards per game. Week one, Shuck Daddy, QB4, week two, Josh Allen, QB1. Check this out. Week three. Remember what was talking about the Jets and how terrible it was? Gino Smith was the quarterback three.

Bryce Young, QB5. This is a defense that we can play anyone else against. Hey, where's the need? Thank you. I really... Jacoby Brissette is just the weirdest. I think he's basically Winston. Yeah.

He's Winston, but he's a little bit more measured. Except for he had three picks last week. No, he still gets the interceptions, but he doesn't get the interceptions of just like, Malik neighbors is down there somewhere. I just, you know, 166 yards against the Giants. I just feel like you... He can throw it for 400, and he can just look,

terrible. But the important thing to know is the Cardinals will lose. Because he's got to keep his 2 and 14 record building. Yeah, but it's all good. It's all good. It's all good. Four pass yards per game, people. There are two quarterbacks that are heavily rostered, but minimally started right now. One had a good week last week. One had a terrible week. I'll bring up the Matthew Stafford start. He was not good last week. They survived. And a miracle comeback at the end of that game.

Thank you, Kyron Williams. That was the reason why. But here you go. Monday night football against the bills. Oh, that's so exciting. 54.5 over under. That's going to be so much fun to watch. So I think Stafford, if you have them on your bench, if he's been dropped, if he's dropped

this week, which this is the one you look out for. When you have the bad week, people will move on to another quarterback. That's why I'm flagging it. He was only 49% started last week. It will be a lower number this week. I think you put him right back in there. Yeah, another player in the same. boat who was dropped. He's heavily

rostered, but all on new teams. Drake May was dropped in every league and then someone picked him up and probably had him on their bench when he went off this past week. I sure did. Exactly. I think the matchup against the Las Vegas Raiders at home. The defense has been good, but the office has been good.

And I think that's the important part is that the Raiders are going to be able to score and Drake May looked great last week. Patriots are still three and a half point home favorites. I'm willing to take that risk, gamble and put I'm in there. I also like Jordan Love in the game environment against Chicago. However, just watch out. It's way too early to know wins, but it does look like it might be a little too windy

and Lambo. So be on the lookout. I was just realizing that Stafford, so he's starting Monday night football, that will be right probably a few hours after I hit a hole in one. Yeah, I don't know if people really, we haven't talked about it in a while. No, the whole in one challenge, which I mean, Not much of a challenge, really. But it will be taking place next Monday. So I don't know when Matt's going to have the video to you. It's going to be a lot of editing. So it might take them a couple weeks.

On its truth. Due to the hours of missing. I just don't want to be down there that long. So I figure out I need to make it sooner than because I don't want you guys to be stuck down at the course. You know what I mean? It's for you. Don't worry about me, man. I'm going to be having a great time.

Oh yeah. Mike and I are going to be really enjoying it. ourselves. Yeah, it's going to be great. So I figure, I'm going to predict that I make the hole in one in about two hours. Okay. I'm going to predict you leave injured. Okay. How much time do I have, Matt? 12 hours. 12 hours. I'm going to predict you leave after 10 hours. No, eight hours. Monday night football. You give up after eight hours. Somebody can, while I'm, if I'm still going, which I'll probably be going from my second hole in one at this point. But you got, somebody can hold a Screen up for me.

So I can watch the game. Sure. Yeah, we got you. For sure. We'll figure it out. So that's finally happening. So that'll be super easy. All right.

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