Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 6 Studs & Duds + Injury Depression, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/13

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Oct 13, 2025. The best and worst from Week 6 of fantasy football! As we approach mid-season, find out which dud performances are the most concerning! Plus, many injury updates and early fantasy football advice entering Week 7. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(08:45) Monday Punday(11:00) NFL News(19:20) Fantasy Studmuffins(19:35) QB Studs (23:45) RB Studs(27:45) WR Studs(34:50) TE Studs(37:30) Fantasy Duds(40:00) QB Duds(43:55) RB Duds(51:10) WR Duds(52:50) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footmullers Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah! Oh, what happens? Oh! Welcome in. Oh,

Slub my toe. Oh, my knee. Oh, mama. Monday. October 13th. Welcome into the fantasy footballers. I think this was about the time of the year last year. I became inspired to dress up as a blue medical tent for Halloween,

and it would be appropriate again. It would be appropriate again. a painful weekend of football. Yeah, a lot more significant, important injuries this week than the usual. We always, there's always one. There's always one or two weeks every year where you exit Sunday and you go, what happened? Like, how could it possibly hit all the star players? Yeah, it felt like being, like climbing into a dryer and hitting.

tumble and then coming out the other side going what happened if your name ended in an ukah i'm sorry yeah there there are injuries that are devastating for your fantasy teams and then there are ones that are emotionally devastating at buca's injury come on man that was all you had left was your love i had left in the world and uh i'm buying a buca cards all weekend it's been taken from you and then Puka, obviously, and then there were a ton of, I mean, we get into studs and duds today, but there were so many, like, underwhelming performances and disappointments and... Here's the best example of how wild and wacky fantasy can be, and sometimes these weeks are bad. In our league of record, there are two teams that are nine and one.

We play against median, so you get two points, you know... Also known at the number one and number two. scoring teams. Yeah, of course. The highest scoring teams, you guys are dominant. This is the most important thing you could be talking about today. I'm just pointing out. Dominators. These two teams, which one of them is mine, one of them is Josh. We didn't

like squeak through. No, you guys are, you guys are super teams. This is a 9 and 1 that should be 10 and oh, really. Both of them. We are our league of record is a keeper league. So it's not just oh, you guys drafted well. It's you two came in this year

having, you know, sold a little bit last year, accumulated extra draft picks. So there's a wider gulf of disparity in Keeper leagues, and you guys are at the top. You are the presumed one A and one B, like the super teams that, you know, I'm going to have to try to beat this year. And I know that the road goes through you guys. Well, your matchup, your matchup this week. Yeah, comfort yourself with this data, folks. is to win in our league, you usually put up about 135 points in our scoring system. Right now, Mike, you have 72 points.

Your super team has 72. Hold on. I still got one player, though. You got a player left. Oh, you're probably going to lose by a lot then. Yeah, because I had, my Sunday started with Bo Nix. Yeah, let's hear some of these stars. Bo Nix, Cortland Sutton, Garrett Wilson, Juan Johnson, Zay Flowers.

I had that combo. Yeah, Zayflowers, which is that about five guys for about about 25 points or so. Nice, nice. Yeah, I mean, those are just duds, duds, duds, duds. And you're going to win. You're going to win because Papa Josh is sitting at 62 points right now. And, and he had Judkins and Hucca and. Kenneth Walker.

Just. Henderson. It's really crazy. Sometimes weeks are wild. Yeah, it's, uh, I, it's, uh, I, I walked away from this weekend just going, like, well, we always say, like, the beginning of the season, a team can look like a super team and then it changes quickly, right? This is why we say stay kind of, stay active because teams, you know, an injury, like,

puka goes down, that's going to mess up, I mean, messed up four or five of my teams. Mm-hmm. I mean, I lost everywhere this weekend. I lost everywhere, and I lost players everywhere. It was just a horrific. Yep. I'm going to survive in our cut league. I thought inevitably I would also be chopped.

I think I'll survive. Maybe not, but probably. But it was just one of those miserable, awful weeks where, you know, you just have to try to survive. But to the rest of the point I was going to say, it's just like, you know, you need to try to wait a little bit on trade sometimes as well. Because it's like if you accumulate early, injuries really disrupt the way the final part of the season is going to go. obviously you need to adjust and make trades all the time. I'm just thinking, like, if you want to make that stretch run, that might mean pushing right up to the trade deadline sometimes

to see you as the clearest path and the healthiest players because you can build a super team today in week six, week five and a half. You still need to have... And it's not going to be that in week 11. You still need to have depth. And then as your trade deadline and you're really making... That's when you can consolidate into, you know,

really turning in two spots into one great player. I mean, Papa Josh is like, so you mean we shouldn't have traded every draft pick we have already? I don't know, maybe. And I mean, Norm, that's- I just know that you got absolutely dismantled. Yeah, Mike, which, what happened on Thursday, Mike? You had such, wasn't it Thursday that you had terrible games and you thought the week was already over? No, no, it was Sunday morning.

It was the London game. Oh, London. It's the stupid freaking international games with disgusting game of football. that oh yeah don't make us wake up for that it was so disgusting on offense for the jets that like every week we've had a rant of some sort the cardinals got their time and we could rant on them forever to this week is the jets oh man the jets are so bad at football disgusting i'm wearing their colors today i don't know why maybe a final farewell as they get relegated into the collegiate football ranks.

It was the worst coaching quarterback performance I've ever seen. Yeah. It's up there, man. It's down there. Kurt Warner was tweeting while he called the game because he was so like, what am I watching? He's like, I'm calling a game with no forward passes. The Jets and it was horrifically bad.

I didn't think it would be that bad. Honestly, because, I mean, that was impossibly bad, but it's the, if the Jets, if Garrett Wilson is locked up with a true number one shutdown corner, then the, then the team can't do, like, if Garrett Wilson is so good that he can make the Jets look competent from time to time. And, you know, it's like, uh, what Mason Taylor had one catch, I think. Ask how many Breeze Hall had. Breeze, hey, it's zero, right? Zero. Yeah. As soon as Garrett Wilson is eliminated, which Sartan can do that.

Then the Jets are eliminated. They took nine sacks. They took nine sacks. He had, he had net negative 10 yards when you look at his passing completions with sack yardage lost. So he lost more yards on sacks than he even completed in total. Goodness gracious. It was just, and then they said this morning, you know, I'm not going to bench him for one bad game. Yeah, I mean, you can't.

This is what put Tyrod in? Yep. No, 45 total passing yards. Oh, 45? I thought it was only 43. No, no, it's the net. Oh, 43. No, that's not the net, Mike. Yeah, no, the net. That's the total. All right. We'll dig in. We've got Monday Punday. We've got studs and duds.

We've got lots to talk about news. We'll see how long players are going to be around. And we'll dig in right now. I asked Jason to jump in and help me with the, with the, Oh, you're just shifting blame? The Monday Punday. And I don't, I don't think he did. No, I didn't. Why don't you start us off, Jay? All right.

We'll start with the good. We'll remember Cam. Scada boom. Wham, bam, thank you, Cam. How about, hey, Kamani Vidal. There were some running back situations where what in the world do you do?

Well, hindsight says it was Kamani Vidal. Yeah, Jackpot, Jackpot, Smith, and Jigbo, one of the best in fantasy. Yeah. Rico. Yeah.

Bouchikawadol. Yeah. I didn't get to be here last week. RICO! RICO Bell Cowdle. Yeah. Yeah.

Unbelievable. Yeah. Uh, yay McBride. Uh, T.D. Roa, McMillan. Mm-hmm. Kendrick Bourne supremacy. Oh, J.S. Wynn? Yeah.

Uh, we had some bad ones. I'll start. Ameca Egg Big Boos. Yeah. Quinn Sean Dudkins. Quinn Shart Jodkins? Yeah. Uh, Twilight Tagovoiloa.

Yeah. All right. uh, Matthew, you, Stafford. Oh, Kenneth Walker, the turd. Uh, Stefan Diggs my grave. Cortland, nothing. And Troy Stanklin. Wait.

Oh, puke, Nakua. Okay. I was like, puk, Nakua. I don't even. Puk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, man. Here's, here's a thing for everybody. You know, I had a great fantasy weeks. Yeah, no, if you, honestly, If you look at your team and you had a great week this week, feel it. Take that in. Let it be a positive light because there are.

And remember that it was so many that had that ones. Remember that it was skill. Right, right, right, right, right. It was skill that got you the dub. It was bad luck that got you the yell. Always true. Sometimes you got to remember, because you have weeks like this. Remember that you have good weeks.

I told you guys I thought I'd make the playoffs last week. Oh, you were, no, you said I'm making the playoff. I really thought I was said out. And then halfway through the games yesterday, you sold. I told him, sold my players. I mean, Marvin Harrison went out with a concussion midgame. Emeka, Buka went out midgame. I was, I knew it was over.

And I got out. So let's talk news. News and notes from Around the League, presented by progressive insurance. We found out that the Cowboys had placed Miles Sanders on season-ending IR. Yeah, that escalated quick. Just remember you're like one twisted ankle from Jaden Blue being a meaningful fantasy contributor. Yeah, no, Jaden Blue should be on rosters. And a younger, talented speedster, so pay attention to that.

What's the status of Phil Mafa? Is he, when is he eligible? He should be eligible to return soon. They should be eligible to return soon. They moved him to IR, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, Jaden Blue, they'll be in the Waver Wire show. So Kyla Murray dealing with a midfoot sprain, uncertain for week seven against the Packers.

They have a week eight by, so I would expect him to miss one more week. Did you see the, I don't have the true stat in front of me about because Jacoby, beef brisket, Brissette threw for 320 and 2. Yeah, it had been like. And it was like the last time Kyler Murray threw for 3002 has been like a thousand plus days or something. Yeah. It's been weird because I think there's been three times.

Kyler's missed games where the backup came in and looked really good for like one game and then it all fell apart. Dobbs. Yeah, Joshua Dobbs was one of them for sure. But with the week eight by, Kyler might not be back. Who knows if Marvin Harrison will be back right away because he had a concussion in the game

in his return to Indianapolis. Cardinals' offense got good as soon as you got rid of Kyler and Marv. Yeah, they were productive. I mean, it was like Zay Jones looked great. All of a sudden these wide receivers. Yeah, Dork scored and Trey McBrack got into the end zone and he should have scored at the end. I thought he was held on that

play. Oh yeah, he definitely was. Anthony Richardson, this was crazy. He was using a, I can't believe it's true because it's a terrible injury. Yeah, I would have not let them. It seemed made up. Yeah, you wouldn't have let him tell. I would have gone with the narrative that the team is just so done with me that I'm been, been inactive. Or at least like I got into a big fight. Someone swung a helmet at me. He basically had an accident with a resistance band and it fractured his eye. Oh, it was...

It's an orbital eye fracture. Right. And he missed the game. And then... Oh, man. They also had... Who was it Cam Ward? No, it was... Not Cam Ward. Chedavius Ward? Chedavius Ward. Yeah, in warm-ups. They have the video of it. In warm-ups, he's just running kind of like coverage

out to the outside and their tight end. Came onto the field, he ran into him, and he got a concussion. Yeah. And he got knocked out of the game. They had two players knocked out of the game in warm-ups. Darnow Mooney is out for tonight. Colston Loveland questionable, Dalton Kincage questionable for the

double header. And then Debo Samuel, they said they'd take it down to the game time. Talked about him on Sunday live. He's listed as questionable, but the follow-up on that was a true game-time decision. So it was... I expect him to play. I think he will.

But you better have an option. Yeah, I added Luke McCaffrey. Yeah, there you go. Because you're not going to have Terry McClurent. Well, that was back when I had Debo and when I started the games yesterday. Yeah, of course. He's not on my team. I don't care anymore. But the other one would be Jalen Lane. You could decide between Luke McCaffrey, Jalen, you could pick up Colquette as an emergency play. I think Cole Comette is not bad, especially if Lovelland doesn't play. Yeah, if you had to flex somebody over Debo. Yeah. If you got word about it. Rashi Rice, eligible to return from suspension this week against the Raiders. Oh, man. And they They just beat the lions.

Oh, the chiefs. Guess who's back? Yeah. Yeah, and Mahomes is a good. It looks great. It's a good football player. Mecca Abuka left early with a hamstring injury, didn't return. He's going to have an MRI today.

Initial reports were that they don't suspect it to be as bad as Mike Evans' hamstring strain, but we don't really know. Can we just talk about how good Baker is? Just serious. Laser Mayfield. he is he's the MVP right now I mean for sure

if it was if voting was today and it was you know the season was over he would be the MVP he's doing it all it's like he just keeps losing one more piece at a time and it's like well he okay it's this

dog don't care he can't handle that much and it's just like yes he can he's powering up still I love him so much yeah he's actually it'll be a big part of the waiver show

is looking at options on that team I traded Debo mid-morning and had to fill in a emergency flex which I did with Tess Johnson Oh my gosh Which was my highest scoring player Hey that was a great catch

And I'm just a yeah it was a great catch Like I was a fingertip laid out Yeah that was a good catch But I think it was Somebody else caught a touchdown there Tyler Johnson Who was it? Yeah it was the other

The other Johnson Caleb Johnson Yeah Caleb Johnson, maybe? No. Caleb Johnson is the Steelers. Cam. Madison.

Cameron. I'm doing great. It's one of those weeks, man. It's Cameron Johnson with a K. Cameron with a K. Yeah. Did you see the story from Tess Johnson, by the way? His little...

Yeah. It was so funny. The MVP chants started because he made a great play. He made a great play. They start chanting MVP. He goes up and the way he says it is just so innocent and funny as a little rookie. And he goes up to Sterling Shepard. He goes, they're chanting MVP.

He's like, I ain't done nothing this year. year. And he goes, it's for Baker, man. And he goes, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Pooka ankle sprain. It's likely to miss. He's going to miss some time. There was a report this morning. The probable liar, Sean McVeigh, came out and said he's day to day. It was almost identical to C.D. Lamb. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you see this all the time. He tried to get back up. And he's like, I'm going to walk it off. Nope, goes down. Half time, comes back. He's doing some warm-ups on the side, thinks you're just like, no, you're done, man. Yeah, it'll probably be a couple weeks. I bet it'll be three weeks.

Well, they have a buy in week eight, so definitely. That helps. Adds up, right? I mean, six, seven, then the buy? Six, seven. Oh, my gosh, you both did that. Oh, man. It's for the youths. Yeah, wow. Garrett Wilson, the fact you simultaneously have the problem. Garrett Wilson suffered a knee injury in Sunday's game in London. That didn't help. and a brain injury from having to be a part of that offense. Yeah. Marvin Harrison, Jr. left early with a concussion.

He had a couple catches, hit his head on the ground. It was pretty obvious that he was going to be hurt in that one. John Harbaugh expects Lamar Jackson return after the buy. They need them. Yeah. We lost Ontavian Wicks to an ankle injury, Gassiki this week, Najoku with a knee injury. That one's kind of big because Harold Fanon had,

I mean, there was 48 pass attempts in that game by Dylan Gator. Gabriel, and I think only three went over 10 yards. But Harold Fanon, like, PPR that game. Are you pulling up his stateline, Jay? No, I was just surprised you said 48 because I thought it was more. It was. He had 52 passing attempts. Okay.

Maybe 48 of them went to Harold Fanon based on those numbers. Yeah, Fanon, he will be an option, but, man, those injuries that were, like, Najoku got blasted. He had two different injuries. Gabriel is throwing hospital balls. and we'll see how long that he can keep doing that before players are like, no, dude, I'm not going to get a head injury for you. Yeah.

I mean, like there was, Calvin Ridley got hurt too. Judy had one where it was, he's running a post right into the safety. And Gabriel's like, sure, here you go. And you go catch this. And Judy's like, no, I'm not doing that. Yeah. And I don't blame him. Like you can't, you cannot throw those.

That was news and node sponsored by Progressive. insurance quote today at progressive dot com progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage subject to policy terms limits and conditions we'll take a break we'll get into the studs well we did have some impressive performances this week let's talk about them this week's fantasy stud muffins presented by lows well the number one passer and running back for the Kansas

City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes came in at number one. He is the number one quarterback on the season. Do you guys realize that? I did not. But it makes sense after... Number one in points per game? I'm just on the course of the season total points. I don't know if it's per game or not.

Okay. I'll look at it up. He's played so well. Yeah. And now... Held that team together. with rice back man yeah i mean the faithful that stayed true to my homes and i do not count myself as one i was like i'm done with this he is number one in points per game lamar jackson number two josh allen number three so after that performance he's at 31.3 points per game wow uh drake may was number two on the week 18 for 26 for 21 and three two of those went to

Keeshawn Booty. Yep. Which is pretty, it's pretty cool. I don't know if you saw his interview either, but just talking about how he had to, like he was a completely different person three, four years ago. Had to change everything about his life. Yeah, man, good for him.

And now he's turning it around, becoming a really valuable player. Yeah, if you don't know the story of Booty, he was a highly recruited player. He was, like, going to be, at LSU, he was going to be like a next big thing. and then things just kind of fell apart for him was a really late draft pick

and so it's cool to see. Jackson Dart, 23.6 fantasy points. Daniel Jones is number four. Dak was number five. Dax staying in the top five. They did lose against Carolina because they don't have a defense. Man, it is my favorite part of football this year

is Dallas's defense. It's delightful. Any team they play can score 30. it's just great that was that was bryce young on the other side well you can't stop california with riko yeah oh it's so great tuba tuba's in trouble oh i that was in big trouble it's a real issue because you can't just you can't take that off the field richo but also tuba was doing great and is paid to be their main starter so it's like will this turn into a 50 50 split if tuba's lucky you think i do

As long as the production is what it is right now I mean he is running like a bat out of hell I mean he is his tails on fire He had I love Rico so this is Yeah you do and this is you can victory lap all you want Yeah you deserve it It feels so much fun

And so good watching it happen But No let me let me help you for a second Oh please okay These are two games where he had I made the joke he won't get to 200 yards Which he didn't I said he'll only get to

180 on the show and that's what he got to yeah 180 and 200 is insane but if you look at all his starts if you accumulate his starts between dallas and now and you i think it's the last eight or 10 of him and you run him in towards the season he's out he's on pace for 2,000 yards yeah i have uh the lines here from his last nine starts this was a tweet from uh brett whitefield 19 for 86 22 for 112 18 for 1331 25 for 149 13 for 23 bad game 23 for 104

22 for 72 22 for 706 and 20 for 183 he's just he's dominating the the Javante being back

great story feels good but the fact that like no one saw what Rico did at the end of last season talking to the NFL like Dallas I don't know what the negotiations were

but clearly they didn't want him back enough he had to go to Carolina on like a one year he's making nothing there it was well number one I had man RICO's got to feel 10 feet tall right now number one on the week for the second

consecutive week Cam Scataboo at number two Josh Jacobs at number three Jason's trade for candidate Devon A. Chan at number four and Jonathan Taylor at number five Jacobs had two rushing touchdowns, five for 57 through the air. We had talked about Cincinnati, right?

And you knew Jacobs was set up. Jonathan Taylor did his thing, per usual. And Devon Aitian, just a shining star in a really negative. It's like a golden nugget in a toilet. It's like, do you want to go in and get it? Do you, I think you need to go get it. It's gold. Did somebody just go number two?

two in there, though? Yeah, you can wash your hands. Of course they did. That's what they do in toilets. Was it Mike Big Daniel that went number two in that toilet? Yeah, so it's a little tiny turd. Hey, that team is in so much trouble. Because it's too much fun.

Who has more rushing yards on the year? You can do whatever you want, Mike. Rico Dowdell. Oh, my gosh. Or Sequin Barkley. It has to be, I mean, this has to be Rico. Because Seekon is not on pace for a thousand yards right now. Yeah, Seqon is at 325 yards.

in six full starts. RICO has started twice. He has 4702 rushing yards. Kamani Vidal, 18 for 124. And looked good. Which is what he looked the week before. That's why I liked Vidal is just, I thought what I saw in the field. You said you liked him better than Haskins, despite the fact that he wasn't starting, you know, before the injury happened to Amarian Hampton. But I mean, you had reports going into the morning. Yes, Sunday morning. You know, big beat riders out there, well, first they said Bam Knight was the starter. And then they Which Bam Knight did play more, I think.

He played more. He played over DeMarcato. Yeah, but it wasn't like over Michael Carter. Well, I think I'll look that up. I think he had more touches and stuff. I don't think so. But you can look at that. But Kamani Vidal, right before the game, it's like,

Hassan Haskins will be the lead back, the feature back. No, it was Vidal. Yeah, they got us good. Christian McCaffrey got his first rushing touchdown. Still just 17 for 54 on the ground. They cannot run block right now. No, they cannot. Okay, so Michael Carter.

nine carries five targets Bam Knight 11 carries two targets Okay he got hurt though So No no no Bam Knight got hurt Yeah I think that report actually ended up being

Correct He did score the touchdown But it didn't really Oh man he's running back 12 right now Well and Carter Carter was the Literally like the first drive He was out there so it was a little confusing Yes

Kiron got back into the end zone like he always does. Ashton Genty. Your trade for, Canada. Yeah, so much work. I mean, 23 for 75 and 1, they managed to beat the Titans. Every, I mean, the Titans are awful. Abysmal. They are, I, do the Titans play the Jets this year?

Is that game exists? Because I do, I need to look at the schedule. But I, Rebes, Rich Rebar tweeted this out, pointed it out to us. Next week, as of right now, the New York Jets and the Cleveland Browns are favorite

to win to win their game their actual so one of them plays the Titans what's the schedule for those two teams Carolina the Jets play Carolina at home then at home of course and the Browns play the dolphins

neither of those teams is winning I'm just telling you what it opened at That's, I mean, those teams, if they played each other, you know they have a mute button on a remote. They need one that also turns the screen off. Oh, they've got. They do. No, no, no, I want the power on, but I want it blacked out and muted. So symbolically, just blotching nothing versus that game.

All right, top five wide receivers of the week, George Pickens continues his absolute money-making scheme. I mean, he is going to get $100 million. Nine for 168 and a touchdown on only 11 targets and still doing what he always does with drawing deep pass interference yardage as well that doesn't show up here. That is the most, like George Pickens can thank Cedley Lamb's ankle for $100 million.

Yes. I mean, the fact that he has bawled out, he had to go do it, but the. but the way Dax's playing and being the only target, it's awesome. The timing. He'll still be good when Citi returns. It's just, we won't be talking about him as number one every week. JSN.

Boy, do we believe now. I mean, I think we've believed for a while, but he is a true alpha. And I just love how he can do it in all parts of the field. You know, he gets his deep shots, too. He reminds me a lot of C.D. Lamb in the sense that They move them around. They'll play him in the slot.

They'll play him outside. He does short area stuff. And then he goes across the field deep down. You know, he's doing everything. And also, Sam Darnold is, I think, playing good football. He's not going away. This is, Darnold is young enough and has a good contract here. So there's stability for the Seahawks here.

You realize JSN was 54% of the targets? Oh, delightful. Yeah, I mean, he's just, there was a point, was that the game, yeah, there was a point in that game, I think, that Donald had 117 passing yards, and J.S.N. had 117 receiving it. That makes sense. Like, it was, they were completely the only receptions of the game. Why go to other people if it works? You know, I've, we've said this forever, but like, yeah, if you have a C.D. Lamb or if you've got a Justin Jefferson, like, the best team just throw it to him. It works every play. I mean, that's doing it.

That's what they did with Cooper Cup in Los Angeles. Matthew Stafford knows that lesson better than anybody. Oh, for sure. Calvin, Cooper Cup, Puka. Yeah. We'll see how long that injury is. Devante Adams is going to get a lot of work. Kishon Booty, two touchdowns, five for 93.

That's a confusing receiving room because DeMario Douglas caught a long touchdown pass in this game. Diggs disappeared. Two. Douglas had another one that got called back, right? Yeah, he did. digs disappeared disappeared i don't know and then booty's back hunter henry didn't get involved like drake may is playing great football we've seen it on film this is what you know talking talking about him as the start of the week this last week was

he he played so good in buffalo despite having not a great fantasy output the fantasy output should come and it did this week but the the issue is he's you know to start the year it's like oh okay so it looks like booty is the guy is the leading, you know, target, you know, he's going to have the target share. But then it was Douglas and then it was Diggs and maybe it's Hunter Henry. I think what it is is it's whoever's going to be open. He's going to spread the ball. Exactly, the Buffalo bills. Like Josh Allen can be great. Josh Allen could throw for a ton and you're not sure that you want to start anybody because if Coleman doesn't get a touchdown, it's like, it's bad. And I think that's what we're

going to have here in New England, which is you can start them and you can get. And you can get big games, but there's absolutely no predictability to who the number one guy is. Jamar Chase, 12 targets, 10 for 94 and a touchdown. That touchdown was redonculus. It was. It was, uh, I mean, that is, you got to have hope and optimism. Joe Flacco, I thought, played pretty well. I mean, they, that touchdown was very.

Yes. Yes, it was. It was Jamar Chase said, give me that. Yeah, there were two. two defenders, one that was pretty much just wrestling him mid-reception, and with one arm, his left arm, not even his hand, kind of his arm that was facing towards the ball, just squeezed it and caught it. Give me that. I mean, he's so good. One week, but I would be, it's nice to have at least some hope after what we've been experiencing with Jake Browning.

Mad McConkey with no cuge was very good. Seven for 101, the big play, if you watch the very end of the game, stopped on a dime, passed his defender. Did you watch Hassan Haskins on that play by chance? If you go back and watch that play, well, he was in the, he was pass blocking. And then he stayed with the play and started sprinting. The whole field ends up out in front of Ladd-McConkie for,

or just behind him to cut off the guy. It was just an impressive play and effort for them. And with that, we're going to have to have a Keenan Allen conversation. Yeah, Kenan was... That's three weeks in a row. It was real bad. Did he do the old man thing? Maybe.

Where? Maybe. You get off really to a hot start because you're a great football player and then you run out of steam? It's not too much different in terms of total. Well, I mean, two bad yardage games in there, but he caught a touchdown in the first three weeks, and then he's been five for 37, five for 58, four for 27, like damaging your starting roster.

There were a few sigh of relief players, two of them in particular, maybe three. Brian Thomas Jr., eight for 90 in a touchdown. There it was. Had one taken off the board. I've been telling people, please just trade for him. He's too good. So this is nice.

The other one, Jameson Williams Yeah 6 for 66 and a touchdown It was nice to see that happen Oh, Mark of the Beast Thank you, Jason You're welcome Also Metcalf

4 for 95 and another touchdown He's been And should have had a Boom I didn't see that play Oh, dude He torches his guy Two of them

He's behind the defense Bad pass I mean five, six, seven yards Underthrown And it was to him It was like, Roger saw it caught four passes on nine targets. You love the nine targets. He scored in four straight.

He's been top ten, two straight weeks. Yeah. Maybe we're turning a corner. He gets the Bengals. That's going to be a great start. I'm going to start of the week that. Oh, where are you? Yeah. Yeah, dibs. But yeah, it was, I mean, two years, Rogers two years ago hits that pass. No problem.

It was, it felt real bad. It was kind of a weird week. It was cool that Ted McMillan scored, but he only caught three passes for 29 yards. in a game that they won with 30 points. Rico. Yeah, I mean. We don't need to throw.

It was, yeah, you're right. So five targets, three for 29 and two. It was inevitable, right? And then Dallas got it was the number one tight end, Tray McBride, Tyler Warren, Sam LaPorte, Michael Mayer. This felt like a better week for tight ends because the top of this list

are the guys that you want that you expect. Like Tyler Warren, Tray McBride, LaPorte. Like, yeah, good. Let the good tight ends go do something and be great. I think Tyler Warren sticks out the most to me from this list.

He has been really dominant. He's been more dominant than, like right now he's the tight end two on the season. I believe behind Dallas Goddard, which we should talk about even though I don't know what to do with them.

It's been long enough now for Goddard's involvement. I mean, you're talking, you're not just talking about the occasional touchdown. You're talking about sort of because it's... 11 targets, nine targets

the past two weeks. But 33 yards. 37 yards 19 yards 110 what if I told you that touchdowns in all of those I don't know we're how many weeks in here six weeks in yep he has his career high in touchdowns no we and he did but he already did before this week I mean we mentioned that last week he had five and that was the most he's ever scored I don't understand why we can't be in on that if we were trying to hang on to like I don't know joan Johnson and so it's it's over for like two out of three weeks you're number one you just you need a tight end man yeah we need tight ends let's you say don't chase it but he's scoring a lot of

touchdowns but to get back to tyler warren Tyler warren very well might finish this season as the number one target for this team ahead of pitman ahead of downs you know he had a 30% target share in this game the targets have tightened up the last couple weeks of it's really uh i saw a tweet about it where it's like downs warren and pitman or are all within one target or so of each other. Yeah, Downs got involved early in this game. Pittman had a tough one. I think he was only like two for 20 in this game.

He should be in the duds. Trey McBride into the end zone. Sam LaPorta, another touchdown for him. Oh, he hit the man. That was a really great touchdown. That was a man catch. Back of the end zone. Harold Fandom was seven for 81.

Tucker Kraft saved the start of the week with a nice touchdown run. And Jake Ferguson can't stop scoring after he's been his whole career. scoring but just three for 33 in this game a little bit disappointing very surprising uh Travis kelsey six for 78 he's been serviceable and uh there you go we'll take a break and we'll jump into the duds well we're done talking about the studs it's time to talk through these guys We did have an update. Todd Bowles, Buccaneers head coach, wanted to let us know ahead of time.

The Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin are not in play for next Monday night's game. So Mike Evans, maybe. Yeah, I mean, if you, by that rule of thought, Emeka, Bucca, maybe. Who knows? It's getting imaging right now. But no Bucky, no Godwin. and we'll see if he has a starting wide receiver room

of Tess Johnson and Sterling Shepard and Kate Otton, right? Yeah, Kate Otton's going to be... You ended up starting him, right? I did. I started Kate Otton. I was happy with what did he end up with? Because we didn't talk about him in studs, but I saw him as a few passes. He was 5 for 51.

That's very... Yeah, it's a tight-in position from what I've been getting. I think I had zero last week. And in true Kate Otton fashion, did you guys see the because I talk about how every time Kate on catches his ball he gets a huge hit

Did you see him get body slammed? Yeah he got lifted over somebody's head Dude every Every week Every week That's legal right So you can't You can't do the slam but you can lift him

No you can't like lift them But he he was the one who jumped He jumped and then the guy He was like on his shoulder So he raised up Because at the time I was like It looked like a fine play You'll be able to lift them if they're over $250?

That should be the rule. I think that's appropriate. Yeah, because it takes, well, one, it shows your own strength and skill. Right. I mean, not everybody can do it. Two, they're big. They're going to be able to handle this fall. Oh, but the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

That's what makes it awesome. That's what makes it an awesome play. If you were to take, like, Devon A-chan and, like, suplex him, that feels wrong. You can throw them, but you have to catch them. Guys, K-dot and 65-247. Oh. Illegal play. Because I said $2.50?

Yeah. Should be $2.25. He's probably, yeah. Do they weigh him without the pads? Yes. Yeah. Then he's over $2.50. Well, that's a good point.

When you, you got to have at least three pounds of pads, right? I'm, but I'm not. Like, when you go to a fight, they're not like, hey. It's the dumbest conversation. You got to fight, you weigh in, try to be as low as possible. Yeah. Justin Fields. Nine for 17.

He's so hard to watch. I'm watching this game. I had traveled this weekend. I'm out in Los Angeles. I'm trying to eat a breakfast. And I'm having to watch this. Nauseating performance. I don't know how many times I exclaimed I hate the Jets.

It was a lot. Because I have Breece Hall. Like I want them to do well. I like seeing Garrett Wilson have success. I believe statistically this was the worst performance of any quarterback on the season outside of Jake Brown. Yeah, it was a second. It was a second.

He took nine sacks. His average time to sack was almost four seconds. That is so long, it's ridiculous. And he will be so back next week. Against Carolina? It will. At home? I've never had the courage to play him

because this is the possibility all the time. It's not, it's not, oh man, he only got you like 15. It's like I, he put a blindfold on and then took a crap in the backfield. In four-point scoring, it has been 29 and a half for 27.1, 25.9, 4.9. There you go. So do you want to, it's roulette? Well, yes, but the horrible games, Buffalo and Denver. Like, you put him up against Pitt when their defense was really reeling.

Well, I'm sure he'll be fine against Carolina. He will be. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Justin Fields is, it's going to be awesome quarterback play. it should be awesome fantasy points. This will be the end of him as a starter. Yes, he is. This will be the end of him as a starting quarter of that you don't want to watch, though. You just don't.

I really wish, I genuinely, and I know it's insulting to him, and he would never accept it. But he should be a running back. He would be so good. Well, he could go Terrell prior, who became a wide receiver, and it was like versatile. You are just such an amazing athlete, and when you get in the open field, no one could tackle him. pulls away from people. Like, if they had Jacoby-Berset at quarterback, they'd be way better off. Yeah, yeah, as a team.

As a team. I mean, he's such a great athlete. I want to watch him do what he's great at. But the problem is he keeps trying to play quarterback. Jordan Love, 19 for 26 and just one touchdown. I know that Papa Josh was deciding between Jordan Love and Drake May this week, and it was such a tough decision. I would play love too. Did you, you played Love, right?

Yeah. And Drake May scored double the points? I mean, Jordan Love and. and Matthew Stafford. Yes, Stafford. Humongous disappointments. Stafford was a huge letdown after being a pickup. And then Bo Nix, man, you watch this game against the Jets.

He's weird. He is weird. He makes plays that look like he's really great. And then he feels like he, I don't know, he almost like gets overconfident. And you can't see the field. How much do we, like, I feel like these London games, it's not a guarantee that they're going to be bad. But so often we are seeing bad football. Anecdotally, it feels like they're all bad.

Yeah, and so it's like, should we be a little bit more concerned going forward of just like the chance that these teams are playing bad. Rams. And then we get another one after that. Oh, my gosh. Jacksonville. Oh, Rams, Jaguars next week.

Yeah. Yeah, we're going to get them forever, Jason. Bo Nix, though, really on the fringe of the start category at this point. He's really been disappointing. Like when you looked at the late round shot on him versus like a Drake May, I mean, his best two weeks, he was the quarterback 12 in week two, quarterback three in week four. But other than that, he's been outside or 15 or later with some real duds in this season where, I don't know, he should be able to perform against a good opponent, like a good matchup, you'd think. But he has a matchup play.

I would agree with that. Saquan, 12 for 58, Judkins, 12 for 36. The Judkins' responses were very strong. and I don't really understand the offensive decision-making. What in the world are you doing? I know you're down early. I know you're down early. And so- 12 carries?

You had to keep throwing it in the second half. And I'm all about throwing it. It's more efficient than running it. But you also look at your personnel. Look at your team and say, what can we do well? Because Judkins has been awesome. And Gabriel is not very good. and you're putting the ball in the wrong player's hands over and over.

I kept thinking when I was watching the games, I was talking to Mike. I was like, where's Judkins? Like, why aren't they using him? His previous three weeks, 20, 25, and 25 opportunities, right? It's not like they were winning all those games. In this game, he got 13 total opportunities. He didn't catch a pass. Like, to your point, Jay, okay, maybe it's more efficient.

Get him the ball on the screen game. Do something. like very frustrating yeah I'm certainly not going away or worried No but we go It's just disappointing next week It's kind of the way it is

Like the Javante performance was really It was a bummer That was a pretty big bummer Because you talked about Carolina's defense I mean 13 for 29 He did catch five passes for five yards Hey that's kind of what he does Sequin Judkins Javante

Gibbs had kind of a down performance Yeah It started strong But I don't know. A bunch of people were saying, Jamir up the middle, Gibbs. Like, what are they doing? Breast Hall, he tried his darnest.

I watched this game. 22 rushing attempts. You got to hold on to the fact that I think his running back opportunity shares like 93% the last two weeks. He should be okay. You talk about Carolina next week and then no targets in the game. Not one? Checkdown in this game. Fields.

Yeah, it was. It was trying to stop the sacks is what it was. Though checkdowns didn't happen because they were keeping Breece Hall in to try a chip. and that helped him only suffer nine sacks. It helped him get sacked later in the play. Right. He was allowed to hold the ball longer. J.K. Dobbins, 14 for 40, his first real dud of the year, first game under 11.

There were a lot of running back duds. I mean, Travis E.T.N. 12 for 27. It was the week. It was not just injuries. It was also a lot of low scores. I mean, there were lots of Ken Walker commentaries because it's been three bad weeks now and it just keeps getting worse. I don't. What is he?

What are you? Ken Walker. Sometimes you look like the best player in football, and other times you don't even matter. Yeah, and Charbonnet as well. You play 35% of snaps. You realize this. Yes. Yeah, the snaps were way down after two weeks, even though the fantasy performance the last

couple of weeks not there. What are you? But 19 for 81. That should be good. 10 for 86, that should be good. You're talking about the past two weeks? Yeah, for Walker. I know it didn't turn into huge fantasy points

but this week was bizarre. And the Seahawks have to be saying what are you? Because they don't know how, they don't know what they're doing as far as with these two backs. You had 60% of snaps for Charbonny. Charbonnet played 60% of the snaps. I think they had like a three

Charbonny runs in a row at the goal line. Just stuffed every time. Yeah. It was just they got they were moving the offense great. Throwing the ball. Awesome. Get down the field, get near the goal line, and then they're like, let's screw this. Well, both of them. Let's give the ball to Charbonnet three times and then kick a field goal.

He's 2.6 yards per carry on the season, and they still are just like, that's fine. They gave him the ball 12 times for 24 yards. Yeah, they couldn't run. They could not run on Jacksonville. Yeah, which Jacksonville does have a really good. Was that 22 for 58? Yep. Okay.

Speaking of not running, couldn't have looked more pathetic. honestly, just a perfect there were some like little nuggets of extra pain during the weekend, the Ibuka injury on top of, you know, the Harrison injury and then like Ramandre Stevenson, like I am the wheel of shame on Friday. I've broken the ice, I'm finally going to spin it,

and I deserve every bit of that wheel of shame because I expected Ramandre to get 43 rushing yards. They didn't beat the New Orleans Saints, did they? Did. Oh, easily. Oh, they beat them easily. Okay, 13 for eight. Now, I mean, Trayvion Anderson, nine for 27. Trayvion's never going to happen.

That's how it feels. It, yeah, I wouldn't give up, but it feels like it. I mean, you realize the snap count. Remember, the whole argument for me saying trade for him Andre Stevenson is that I think he's going to get a ton more work. Do you know what a snap count was? Looking at 72%. 72% in this game.

That is a wonderful number for a running back. A running back, you want like 60% is good. They're going to have a great fantasy game if they're up at 60%. 70% is you're like a bell cow. And Trayvion was 50% last week. So it's going down for Trayvion. There was, did you see the, my controller stuck moment for Trayvon Henderson? Yes.

Oh, my God. What in the world? He was in this past protection. I missed it. And he's just, he's in the past protection stance. And he's real serious about it. Yeah. Three points stance.

three-point stance, hands out in front of you, doing the little shuffle feet. And Drake May's running, like, he's running, like, out of the pocket to the right, and Chavion's just, like, stuck in the position. But he's, he's, and not moving. He is there ready to, ready to block no one. There's no one in front of him, and he is ready to block him, though. If there was someone there, he would have blocked the crap out of him. Well, he was, my controller's unplugged is the moment.

He is, he's looking at, there's a guy on the outside, and he's not sure if May, going to run or throw. So I can see what he's doing. I know. I know what he's doing, but it just looks so stupid. He kind of looked like maybe he got reamed for some past protection problems. Honestly, I think that is a, so he kept zoned in. It is a, I think it's a part of the problem for Henderson is, like, this is how people

use players. And it's like the, uh, you know, we can go to the, the Detroit, how they are like uplifting their players. There was even a, uh, uh, interview with Guns Mahoney. And he was like, we don't accept. guys who take plays off and and then he was you know there was a follow up he's like okay well what he do he's like well when we see it we just we correct it we build them back up we get them out there and it's like I think that henderson is just getting crapped on by his coaching staff and

he is not really sure how to handle it so now he's overthinking everything he's up in his head yeah yeah no i think that that's a big part of it is still clearly the more efficient runner. I mean, he's the, if they could get him going. He's doing more with less. He's just not allowed to get more is what it feels like right now. It's so brutal. Tony Pollard, Isaiah Pacheco, Kareem Hunt, and then Hassan Haskins, who people spent some money on and took a shot, uh, were other disappointing performances. A wide receiver. Ew. Yeah. Cortland Sutton won for 17. Yeah. I mean, it's shocking stuff. Bow Nix has a bad day and Cortland Sutton has a bad day. Maybe throw him the ball more.

Michael Pittman Jr. 2 for 20. Devante Adams is 4 for 39. It was wide open on multiple touchdowns that Stafford just missed him on. It would have changed the whole day for both of those guys. Stafford had the down week. You talked about Keenan and the conversation around Keenan Allen, 4 for 27. And Jacobi Myers continues to be worthless.

Romeo Dobbs back down to 5 for... 5 for... 5 for 505 is... For Dobbs. That's normal for Dobbs. Yeah, that's not... I don't like that's... I'm just saying it's... Yeah, you just could... I couldn't chase three touchdowns, obviously. But any players we want to talk about there?

No. Are we done with Joanne Johnson? Yeah, we are. Yeah, seems so. The other guys are back. Oh, we got Tayson. John Johnson. We got Tayson again.

Oh, that's right. Oh, he's back. Right at the goal line. He's back, everyone. And it worked. Yeah, but for fantasy, it did not. It did not work for fantasy. Oh, man, we are, we're back.

Mason Taylor just had one target. this game was there were no wide receivers he had two yards so two yards is pretty pretty good market share of Justin Fields passing he was not allowed to bring his meow mix into the country uh was that it was a yeah so so little kitty cat was hungry how many Garrett Wilson we didn't we didn't talk about him did we on the wide receivers what was his total line uh very bad was Josh Reynolds the leading receiver in that game Garrett was eight gets three for 13. Okay. Hunter Henry, three for 27,

Mark Andrews, 4 for 24. Isaiah likely has done nothing because the Baltimore Ravens are. Yeah, I don't even put... Are they one in five? Yes, they are. They are one and five. Likely to me is going to be someone that we need to remember to pick up next week coming out of the buy. Because we really haven't seen him and Lamar together this year.

Coming into the season, I think there was high hopes, maybe even expectations for likely. And the season is basically starting over for the Ravens in two weeks. That game was interesting of, you know, it was like, I didn't, I didn't want to play Derek Henry, who, Derek Henry actually had a very good day. It was 24 for 122. And the Ravens, the game was very tight for a long time.

And then eventually the, you know, the, the dam opens up and the Rams are scoring more points. And so then that turns into, well, we have to have Cooper Rush. And then eventually Cooper Rush is benched for Huntley. so it was but I mean it was it was nice to see Derek Henry finally get something going again we get the by week we get Lamar back we get Chicago we get Miami we get Minnesota so it should be

brighter days ahead for Derek Henry I don't know for certain that this is correct but it looks to me like there have been two teams in the last 12 years that have made the playoffs starting one in five 20 2015 Kansas City Chiefs won 10 straight after starting one in five. I remember that. The Colts were one in five in 2018 and made the playoffs. It's very rare, obviously. Hard to do. I mean, you're talking a one or two percent chance probably. How many division games do they have left? Oh, by the way, the Steelers have been, they've won the last two weeks. The entire division has lost

two consecutive weeks. The whole division 0 and three. That's what I mean. They might be able to make up some ground. Well, you can beat, you can beat the Browns. Yep. You can beat the Bengals. Yeah. So. Just can they get healthy enough to beat the Steelers? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they've got, is this the buy week coming up for them? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you got your shot. You better go on a run.

Problem is that defense has been so beat up. I don't know if they can do it. Yeah. Now with Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's, official partner of the NFL. We'll be back tomorrow with a waiver wire episode and you're going to need it. It should be a really interesting. one. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of question marks. Hopefully more information around some of these injuries and how long

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