Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 6 Waivers & Streamers + Drop Decisions, Kraft Singles - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/8

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Waiver Wire pickups for Week 6 on today’s fantasy football podcast! Can Chris Olave turn it around? Which disappointing players are actually droppable? Find out which waiver adds can help fantasy football managers get a win in Week 6 and beyond! Plus, NFL News including the latest on Davante Adams trade updates, and reactions to Monday Night Football! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for October 8th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro  (02:00) - MNF Recap (10:30) - NFL News (23:20) - Waiver Wire (24:20) - RB Waivers (31:20) - WR Waivers (43:20) - TE Waivers (48:50) - DST Waivers (52:30) - QB Streamers Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Waiver Wire presented by Amazon Business News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome in. Tuesday edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Mike, the fantasy hitman here today. Scoot to be back. Yeah, welcome back into the building. Thank you. But due to the ongoing feud between you and Jason Moore, the- Yeah, that dude sucks. Yeah.

It's just me and you today. Jason's got a few days away from the show after the big fight, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where my voice went. It was all the shouting at Jason. I know. I know. You and Jason just-

I gave him the business. Just two serious guys. I was like, I told you, Rico Dattel. Right. It know. You and Jason. I gave him the business. Just two serious guys. That's like I told you, Rico Dowdle. Right. It's a Dowdle. How dare you Dowdle. Well, look, he wasn't going to be here for the comeuppance. That's for darn sure. I mean, it is

the, unfortunately, the window to victory lap was only 24 hours from his performance. So you weren't here yesterday. I mean, and obviously you didn't listen to the show. So we spent a lot of time giving you a lot of credit. Okay, good.

I hope so. I hope that's what happened. Most of the show was just Mike was right. At least right now. You're right right now. And sometimes that's all you need. You just got to have one. It's looking good for Rico Dowdle.

He's going to be a big part of our waiver show today. So congratulations. Not on any of my waivers. Tell you that much, everybody. No, no, no. You've held him. You've had him for three four years i think you've been uh you might get a percentage of whatever contract he's i do yeah at this point i'm on the payroll he's you're the hype man his agent reached out and said we need somebody to

talk about this guy because otherwise they're going to give zeke all these carries and nobody wants that. No. Well, we do have a waiver show today. Happy to have you joining us. You can follow the show over on X at the FFBallers. Follow Jason Wrong at JasonFFL. Follow Mike Wright at FFHitman. Follow me at Andy Holloway. You can join our Discord channel.

It's free to join. It's over 50,000 strong, and that's ballersdiscord.com. I want to mention that from time to time. If you need people to talk to, panic with, gloat to. I mean, gloating is great. It's about 85% of things. Sometimes the week goes by and you face your brother-in-law. How'd that go?

Pretty great. Oh, no. Pretty, pretty, pretty great. How are you feeling, Josh? You were talking a big game in League of Record and a couple L's this week? Yeah, just a couple. Oh. Stupid league median.

The league median in there. Take double L's. What else do we got going on? We got a Monday night football game. There was a game, sort of. Yeah, I was pretty disgusted by that game. Dude, the Kansas City Chiefs defense is terrible for us. It's really good for the NFL purposes.

That's about everything you would want to have. I mean, you're a 5-0 team. You just held the Saints to 13 points. And they not only do they shut down your number one wide receiver, which last week on the show I brought up, hey, is Chris Olave going to get that treatment? He probably is. I thought that treatment required LeJarius Sneed, and it does not.

No, no, no. They figured out a way that they can just bracket and take away the number one option, and that was... Look, don't panic on Chris Olave. This is part of the experience. If you're going to play the Chiefs and you're number one wide receiver,

they're probably going to shut you down. Even worse than for us is generally when we have that then we have a run funnel and our running backs dominate no no they don't permit that no they do not alvin camara 11 for 26 on the ground six for 40 through the air so he was like he was okay ish for fantasy but the saint or the the the chiefs are shutting down guys on the ground, and they're shutting down number one wide receivers. It's like, this is a problem. Yeah, I mean, they are an outstanding defense.

You mentioned it. They're one of two teams going into the bye now, 5-0 with the Vikings. Patrick Mahomes' numbers now, because of the formation of this team and the departure of the big play. Mike, he is at 11.8% of the time giving you 20 or more points now over 17 weeks. He has not had a top 12 finish this year, 13, 14, 15, 17, 15. He is averaging 15 fantasy points a game, and he is not a factor for fantasy football at all. And, you know, they'd lose the Jerry Sneed, yet they can still shut you down.

They lose Rashi Rice, and yet they take the corpses of Kareem Hunt and Juju Smith-Schuster who put up numbers last night. The numbers for those players were the best numbers that they've put up in over 1,400 days

each. Like J juju seven for 130 yeah we have to he has forced us to talk about him robustly today and then kareem hunt 27 carries 102 yards this is not a pushover defense by the way the saints are not a pushover defense but they looked like it last night against a bunch of elder statesmen. Just off the couch. They were running four tight ends during this game.

Goodness gracious. Jody Fortson and Noah Gray and Travis Kelsey in Tripp's formation and they were still picking people apart. They had a second and 34 they picked up. So I whiffed the almost upsets this week. It looked okay for a bit. I went from almost upset to very upset at the performance by the Saints,

which was anemic. And Rashid Shahid had the big game. At this point, Chris Olave is going to be a drop candidate in people's minds. Oh, don't do that. Because the performance this year has been wide receiver 89-26-12, 28-81. Yeah, no, no, no. He's not a drop. He's fine.

He's okay. Yeah. Fine might be the way to describe him as a player. Week one was terrible. That was the Shahid nonsense where they scored all the points right away. The next week was a blowout again, but 4 for 81, 6 for 86, 8 for

87. Is this just who he is, though? Is who he is a wide receiver to the Terry McLaurin path? This version of Olave with Derek Carr, this is probably what it is. It's still, even though wide receiver 26 and 28, but, I mean, that was over double-digit points both times.

Olave is still solid, and I think there is a path of huge upside on a weekly basis, but Tampa Bay next week, that's fine, but then it's Denver. Nobody runs the football more than the Saints. The Saints are the last ranked passing team, number one in running. So you're taking opportunities away as well. Sure. But, yeah, it was a proper thrashing by the Chiefs.

The only – I mean, the Saints had one incredible interception by the most athletic, oversized Kyler Murray I've ever seen. I call him Kyler Murray because his steps were tiny. Big boy got them wheels. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. It was awesome. And then they had one big play to Rasheed Shaheed. Yes.

And then otherwise the offense couldn't do anything. Yep. And now Derek Hart could be out. Juwan did okay, 5 for 31. I mean, that was – In this economy? Yeah, no, no, five catches. That was second on the team.

And then Foster stole the touchdown, unfortunately. Because if you got 5 for 30 and a tutty, you'd be feeling all right. And then the – I mean, it's Travis Kelsey is – we're back, baby. We are so back with Rice's injury. Ten targets, nine for 70. I think that's – for me, that's the biggest takeaway is you assumed that would happen, but you still needed to, hey, give me a couple games of it. It's back.

It's right back to Kelsey. And if you get bonus points for laterals mid-play, Kelsey's – Oh, my goodness gracious. Kelsey's going to put up some big numbers for you. What does Coach Reed feel every time that happens? Because it works. Travis Kelsey's very good at it. I think the only way to get him to rarely do it is to tell him you hate it.

But I think secretly inside he's fine with it. But how do you hate it when it keeps being successful? I don't know, because eventually, you know, it's like hitting a couple bets, man. Yeah, fair. You know, the house is going to take the money at some point. Watching the replay of it, at least to me, maybe I missaw it, but P. Ryan looked like he was looking Travis Kelsey dead in the eyes. I thought it looked playing.

Of like, I know the ball is coming and I don't know if it was like that was the play call or if P. Ryan's just like, I've seen what Kelsey does. I've seen him do this, so I better be ready. Yeah, I think it works. Oh, Andy Reid said they practice that every day? Yeah, halftime.

Oh, I missed that. I think that, I mean, we saw it with Gibbs. The mid-play lateral, I don't understand why. To me, the play is smart because it's just high risk. But is it more high risk than a pitch to your running back? I mean, if you run it properly, I mean, both of those plays would be fumbles. But, yeah, you're trusting not your quarterback to do it. But if you practice it.

It's wild, man. It is. Alright, let's talk news because we've got big news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. We woke up to the news that the Jets have fired coach Robert Sala.

Yeah. This will definitely fix all the problems. I mean, this is the first time that they have ever fired the current owner, Woody Johnson, of the Jets, has never fired a coach midseason. Because it just doesn't work. The data says these teams, they rally behind the new coach for a game. The win percentage after the first game is actually pretty good. But as a whole, Kyle did some research on it,

and he found the only team that changed coaches midway through and made the playoffs was the 2021 Las Vegas Raiders. That was Gruden. Gruden was not let go because of performance. He was let go because of off-the-field stuff. And then that team managed to get into the playoffs. They lost in the wild card. But this one's so difficult.

You don't normally get – like the data is normally going to be towards the back part of the season when the interim takes over. This is a little bit different. Two and three. It's been hard to watch them play football. Yeah. But they're right. I mean, the division's there for the taking.

Oh, yes. The Dolphins are beat up and destroyed. The Bills look horrendous right now on offense. And the Jets are sitting right there. So, you know, I think they're a team that has potential. People think the Jets fans think that we're sitting here just hating on Aaron Rogers because yesterday we were making fun of the bitter beer face. I also said we were rooting for something good to happen there.

I want to see Rogers be vintage Rogers during the last year or two. We get to watch him play football and I want Garrett Wilson to succeed. And I want Brees Hall to not look like he's an eighth-round draft pick. Oh, boy. So, you know, but Nathaniel Hackett's still there, the guy calling the plays. Yeah, the problem is not – the defense has been great. That's what Sala does is you're struggling on offense.

So, I mean, who knows? Why don't I have the name of the interim head coach here in the dock? We can find it. We did get that announcement this morning. Jeff Ulbrich, is that right? I think that's right. Is it? Correct.

Whether I pronounced it right, we'll find out soon. All right. So, no more Robert Sala. And then we're getting towards the end of the devante adams saga it seems because multiple reports have said that they are very incentivized to finish a deal with devante adams the last thing i saw was that there's one there's only one team that was willing to meet the second round demand right and nobody wants to trade davante adams to this team because it's the chiefs it's if i were the chiefs i would do the move like i've done this in fantasy you can have a first

you're going for a three-peat sure and your team is running out juju smith schuster and justin watson you can have a first make it so that all the other teams offering the Raiders are offering a third, and you're the team in the division that offers a first, and then overpower them. I find these things always so funny. It's just like, we're going to trade this player, and we don't want to regret it even more if he goes to our rival and then he's really good.

I would not trade. If I were the Raiders in division to the Chiefs, I couldn't do it. It's just – Because it helps your division rival. I mean, you fix your problem then. Figure out what the problem is and don't trade him. Or ship him off to the NFC. It's – I don't know.

It's very, very funny to me. When teams are like, no, the best thing – but isn't the best thing for their team to get a higher pick back? And to take one from your division rival? Yeah. Yeah, I know. You can look at it – Just go – just get it done.

Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, that makes – Trade with whoever's going to give you the best improvement to your team. Yeah, if you think you're taking somebody for a ride on a trade, you might as well take your division. You're like, yeah, we got a third round for Adams. Sure, we could have had a second and been way better, but screw those guys.

Okay, that is the most Mike Wright thing you actually do in our drafts. You do it all the time. You stick people with a lack of draft picks so they get fab penalties. Right, a fab penalty. That doesn't help you, though. But I'm not running an NFL franchise. Darn right you're not. All right.

We also know that Amari Cooper might not be long for the Cleveland Browns. We got numbers this morning. 45% of Amari Cooper's targets are uncatchable. Is that bad? That's pretty bad. That's like take his league-leading or near-league-leading targets and cut them in half. Because catchable targets and targets, you know,

like one of the Dontavian Wicks targets in the last game, deflected pass at the line of scrimmage. Why did they count that? I don't know. I don't know. It's silly. I went and watched. I did. I watched all the Wicks targets, too. And there was the play.

Are you sure? I mean, are you sure that was going to Wicks? Like, how can you count that against his catch percentage? I don't know. Because the target's going to hurt his catch percentage, right? I mean, that's how that number is calculated. Yeah, it would. Stupid.

All right. The Eagles expect. Oh, by the way, on the Cooper front, Chiefs are a destination. But you know, another team that was mentioned for Amari Cooper that will make you roll your eyes in the back of your head and laugh? What, is it Dallas? It's Dallas. Oh, come on now. Because Amari Cooper's still an elite wide receiver. It's funny. Alright,

the latest news we have on Rashi Rice, by the way, his season is over. They're going to confirm it in a scope. LCL injury. Derek Carr, the oblique last night. A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith. Both expected back against the Browns this week. That's excellent news.

Jalen Hurts might look better than he's looked. Travis Etienne got popped in the shoulder again, and that's why he was held out at the end of the game. Tank Bigsby. I'm winking, podcast audio people. Wink. I believe. I think he's podcast audio people. Wink. I believe. I think he's still the guy.

But at some point, at some point when the backup is doing this, when he touches the ball, it's dumb to not get him the ball. We've seen players have explosive plays and hyper-efficiency on limited touches many, many, many times. I mean, last year we were literally living this out with Devon Achan. We're not getting Devon Achan for 74 yards every touch anymore. If Bigsby gets more work, his numbers will come down, but he's looked awesome. And that's why I made him a my guy, if you remember.

Andy Holloway did it. Yep. Andy Holloway loves him. The courage it took. Andy Holloway did it. Yep. Andy Holloway loves him. The courage it took. Andy Holloway. Yeah, you can. Thanks, Bigsby. All right.

D'Amico Ryans doesn't know when Joe Mixon is going to play football. This has been frustrating because Joe Mixon came back to a limited practice a week and a half ago. And it's like, oh, he's on track to play. Then he doesn't play again. And did you see the numbers for Daria Gumbawale last week I sat there and I had the most frustrating morning deciding between Cam Akers and Zach Charbonnet in place of Joe Mixon in our league of records sweet lord and

the first I didn't realize it was that bad the first thing that happens is Daria Gumbawale comes out for every snap in the first drive. And I wanted to die. You know, not to be hyperbolic about it, but I wanted to expire. And then Cam Akers ends up with a touchdown. He gets two carries on the first drive. They both go for 10 yards. He scores. But right now it's like Agumbuoli had the better game.

Agumbuoli should be brought up on the waiver show today. And if Joe Mixon is this endless day-to-day, week-to-week... By the way, day-to-day shouldn't mean three weeks. Well, yeah, I think he's jumped back and forth a few times. D'Amico lying. Oh! Got him. Yeah, I feel like he

was week-to-week, and then he was day-to-day, and then he was back to week-to-week, but now we're day-to-day again. Speaking of week-to-week, that's the status for Nico Collins right now. Oh. Oh. He burns too bright. Khalil Shakir is in the day to day category.

Okay. Romeo Dobbs back at practice and maybe, just maybe, a sneaky little flex pickup. Yeah. Romeo Dobbs, if you didn't follow the saga of the weekend or whatever, the week of he was having, he was missing practice with, it was listed as personal. We're like, oh, you know, usually that's a,

there's a family issue that the players have to go. Purge up, brother. Yeah. No, seriously. I was like, oh, that sucks for Dobbs. And it was, no, he was just chilling at home, not going to practice, but not telling them. But he was like, he's mad about his role in the passing game,

which he's out there all the time. That's what people point to. I mean, the targets aren't even that bad. He's on pace. They're okay. 85. But it's like what Romeo is seeing is guys like Jane. Jane Reed is like he's a great player.

So I'm not taking away from it. But I'm saying. The best. He doesn't. He's not on every snap. And then in the snaps he goes in like they target Jane Reed. And you're like Romeo's like come on man. Let's scheme some stuff up for old Dobbs over here.

It's Dobbs time. You think someone threw a wherefore art thou Romeo thing out there when he didn't show up at practice? Probably. Probably. Big Shakespeare people up there in Green Bay. Big time. Zay Jones, Cardinals receiver, back from the reserve suspended list. Could be involved in Arizona. Antonio Pierce is – hold on.

What are we doing i want to read this verbatim and get your reaction raiders head coach antonio pierce has told reporters that he's still evaluating who will be the starting quarterback gardner or aiden o'connell for now the team is treating it like a competition before deciding who will start versus the steelers in week six so to actively do a competition that means you're going to have to split the reps at practice your limited amount of practice time these aren't the kind of guys mike that need all the reps to be successful the ones you're not sure who's good enough to be the starting quarterback so we're going to cut their play time in half or practice time when they have to be ready for an NFL game this weekend?

Like, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? They're playing one of those soft defenses, though. They face the Steelers this week. They don't need the reps. Okay. Okay. Pierce is doing some weird stuff.

Why do certain teams just do certain stuff all the time? It's like they get injections when they join the franchise so that they can carry out the same dna that they've had forever yeah is pierce has done a lot of things like i think he is a good coach maybe he just needs to but like be a coordinator man some dudes some dudes are incredible coordinators and there's the coach of being, or the job of being a head coach is so different and it's, you know, managing humans

where not all coordinators have that as part of their personality of, I have to manage all these guys. Mike Singletary, remember him in San Francisco? Yeah. It reminds me of that where it's like the hyper-aggressive, I'm on your level stick works for a couple weeks.

Like he was an interim guy that came in and dominated. Yes, he did. But right now, Devontae Adams has run out of town. They don't have a quarterback. The hit rate right now on not offensive head coaches, it's pretty bad right now. In terms of how they perform? In terms of them performing and keeping their job.

It's not impossible. Like D'Amico Ryan's is looking great right now, but if you look across what has happened since 2018, it's not good. All right. Well, that'll do it for today's news and notes presented, as always, by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. We're going to take a break, and then we're going to hit the waiver wire.

All right. A lot of names to talk about, a lot of moves to make. Get your team ready for week six. Get that trajectory going towards a Foot Clan title. Welcome to The Waiver Wire, presented by Amazon Business. We get the Chargers, Eagles, Lions, and Titans back from the bye week, and we lose all our

Chiefs and Rams and Dolphins and Vikings. And I, for one, I was telling my son this last night. If I'm going to miss a week of the Dolphins, it's going to be a week while we wait for Tua to come back. I much prefer that because the fantasy points are going to be very similar on the bye.

Yeah, but it doesn't count. That doesn't count to his IR. It doesn't count to his IR, but it counts in terms of like if I'm going to miss a week. If I miss a week, I want to miss a week while they don't have him. And Tua is planning on being back. I've never been so happy with six for 69 from Tyreek Hill. Right. That's a great line based on what we were staring down with Tyler Huntley.

But no Dolphins, no Vikings, no Rams, no Chiefs. Let's begin at running back. Now, there are five names that are majority owned that I'm going to mention really quickly that you should just check your league, but roster percentages above about 58% or higher. Your man. Yes, sir.

Rico Dowdle. Rico. Excited about the Detroit matchup this week? No, but I wasn't excited about Pittsburgh either. Chase Brown? Who looks great? About 71% rostered. As much as I like Rico, I think I would take Chase Brown.

If they were both there. I saw he's number one on your rankings. The other names that are majority rostered, Madison at 63%, Trey Sermon, who could get another start, although he looked rather abysmal to me, and then Braylon Allen, 58% rostered. So those names, those are probably taken in your leagues,

but we mention them, and we include them because there's 30-plus percent for many of these that they're not rostered. The big names, though, this week that are going to make the headlines, Tank Bigsby at running back, Tyrone Tracy Jr., who went 18 for 129 against Seattle. And then I think those are the two big ones, really.

Yeah, I agree. And then Ty Chandler is one that you're going to have to pay attention to, but he doesn't play this week. It's just how bad is the Aaron Jones injury, and do people ignore Ty Chandler? Is he cheap and available where he could be a hold and maybe ends up getting a start? Yeah, for Ty Chandler, it could be like if you're already low on priority

or you've spent that shmoney, spent that fab, Ty Chandler could be the fact that they're on bye. It could be a gift of we don't know how long Aaron Jones will be out. It's a bye week, and then it's Detroit, so that's a tough matchup. But then after that, it does open up for Ty Chandler, should he be the starter. So, I mean, he should be added in almost every single league. It's just you're not going to dump a huge amount of fab.

He was the guy. When Aaron Jones went down, Ty Chandler took the overwhelming majority of He was the guy. When Aaron Jones went down, Ty Chandler took the overwhelming majority of snaps and the work. The number one running back on the week this past week was Tank Bixby. He was 13 for 101, had a 65 yard touchdown, had a second touchdown,

had a pass catch. Etienne had six catches last week. Yeah, it's still going to be a timeshare. How much are you spending on Tank Bixby? Not a ton. Not a ton. No, not a ton. Chicago this week, then New England, Green Bay.

Because I don't think he will overtake ETN. I think it'll be – I believe them when they say ETN got a little bit banged up, so that's why we gave Bixby some run there at the end. I think that Bixby is going to keep closing the timeshare, so it will be more of a split, but that's not necessarily it's going to be great for Tank Bigsby. Tyrone Tracy, I think he's a little bit more interesting. Because he has a long-term potential? Exactly. This week with Cincinnati, we don't know the extent of the groin injury for Devin Singletary but can tie like I

don't think take can overtake Travis Etienne but Tyrone Tracy I mean this team is they're gonna have to figure some stuff out there's there is a chance that Tracy takes over the starting job for the Giants. It's long odds, but all these guys were talking long odds of if someone can actually take over, you have to be so much better than the starter. But Tracy, that's one game down, and he looks spectacular. He has juice, where Devin Singletary is a solid player, but Singletary doesn't have that type of juice.

They've looked very different on the field. They seem critical of Singletary, not getting it done in a couple of games. The dead cap, he did sign a three-year deal for what it's worth. The dead cap is $6 million next year for Devin Singletary, but you could see it flip, and they could try to get more explosiveness from the young guy. Do you have Tank at top or Tracy? You know, it's a tough one. I probably have Tank a little bit higher.

This is just, you know, is Etienne going to continue to be banged up? He missed practice last week before he got popped in the shoulder again. Bigsby is going to have more of a touchdown opportunity with that offense. I lean that way. Those are the top two names. Beyond that, you're getting in, you know, you talked about Chandler, but you're getting into, you know, the stash and backup category. Like you could probably get Jalen Wright for nothing

if you wanted to give that a go. Which he, Raheem Mostert is back, but Devon Achan did have the concussion. He has the bye week to get through it, but it's not a guarantee. 13 for 86 for Jalen Wright this last week. He's looked much better on the ground. Yeah. Achan on the ground, it's not been what we have hoped for on the season. On the season, he's at 3.3.

If you want the bare-bottom, but you can start him category, Daria Gumbawale, 15 carries. It's the seven targets I'm more interested in. Yeah, I mean, he ended up in the end zone two weeks ago, but six for 57 through the air. Nico Collins' injury means that they need more weapons in the passing game, and he's going to sneak through waivers with almost no cost. Yeah, and then the low, like if you're desperate at running back,

you're not high on the priority, you can't get anybody. It's a desperation play, but Roshon Johnson, it's against jacksonville so the matchup is good and you're just hoping that they get dragged down inside the five and roshan keeps getting that goal line work one name in the drop candidates that i want to talk about at running back because people are asking about him that i think i have a prescription for is jerome ford people are asking about jerome ford last week was atrociousontay Foreman was on the field a bunch. Nick Chubb's coming back at some point here, and the offense looks awful.

I would be trying to package Jerome Ford with another player or pick to go acquire somebody else now. I don't think the future's going to be bright for Jerome Ford. I don't disagree with that. They just don't. His usage is weird. Yeah, it is.

Like, was this injury related? Because, look, 9 for 47 on the ground against Washington. Like, that's not. Well, the game script got out of hand. Yeah. But the way that they've used him, you know, he's a workhorse in week one. He's the backup in week two. Oh, he's back.

He's everything in the next couple weeks. And now he's kind of the backup again. The Browns are all over the place with usage. You want to turn the page to wide receivers? Yes. Surprisingly enough, Darnell Mooney is only rostered in 31% of leagues. How much do we have to talk about Darnell Mooney? I mean, 16 targets.

What are we doing? Is he in your mind on every week's start? Yeah. He's in every week wide receiver three. So he gets Carolina and then Seattle and then Tampa. He plays almost every snap of the game. And he's 31% rostered. Is he your number one?

He is, at wide receiver. How much fab? I think we put it in there at 15% to 25% of fab. If you need a guy, though. Yeah, everyone needs different things at this point of the season. We're going into, what, week six? For some teams, their starting roster. Here's a way to think about it.

If your starting roster is looking really good, take on some of the stashes. Don't pay up for a player like Mooney. I wouldn't. If you're really solid. But Darnell Mooney is over here. If you are hurting and you're looking at your bye weeks coming up, he's such a usable player.

It's weird. I can't believe he's only 31% rostered. That's insane to me. The guy's been playing well all year long. Yeah, this was the big, big game that we got last week. So maybe people had just been hesitant, and we've had like five days now to you know kind of feel the impact of that big monster performance before then cousins was kind of in doubt too

you know 54 roster josh downs who looked amazing the real problem for josh downs is the quarterback conundrum because you know we highlighted this yesterday mike i don't know if you heard it i'm ready to roll but we talked about pace of play and the differential between anthony richardson because we highlighted this yesterday, Mike. I don't know if you heard it on Ready to Roll, but we talked about pace of play and the differential between Anthony Richardson in plays per game and Joe Flacco in plays per game and performance. Josh Downs is very talented. He's looked outstanding.

He's looked like their best receiver, to be honest. That's fine. Alec Pierce is the hardest player to ever put into a waiver wireless because he's always like three for 100 and two touchdowns. But I feel like if I ever play him, he's not doing anything. Do you agree with that? Yeah. I mean, three of five so far.

Games-wise? Yeah, it has worked out for him. But, yeah, he's – the target share is – He's a great deep threat. I mean, 7% of targets last week, 7% the week before. But they're so- Yeah, yeah. No, they're really high value if it comes through.

But this is like, that's last year's Rashid Shaheed. Yep. Where you see the talent and you're wishing, hey, why can't this player get more targets? Because there's guys like Michael Pittman and Josh Downs. If you needed a start this week, are you with me on Jalen Tolbert, who 10 targets, has looked good in his reps,

no Brandon Cooks, plays Detroit, who's likely to stifle the running game, so the passing game's going to be crucial. Would you go Jalen Tolbert or would you look at somebody like Michael Wilson who had a big week? We talked about how Marvin Harrison's catch percentage is below 50%. Michael Wilson's

up over 75%. The Cardinals have a tough matchup against Green Bay. They should have to throw it. Which is the better start to you? Tolbert this week or Wilson? I think I would go Tolbert there. That one's pretty close. He just – he has – he's finally looking the part with the third-round pick,

but it's kind of hard to remember what we all thought of Jalen Tolbert. I liked him a lot, and then he's just been essentially doing nothing for the, you know, missed half his first season, plays 17 games in year two, but only sees 36 targets. And he's already up to 29 through five games. And the Brandon Cooks injury is an immediate opportunity here. And we, Dallas and Detroit, feels like they are more likely to hit that shootout type of a game over Green Bay and Arizona.

I'm with you. I think Tolbert's got a window here to perform and maybe even earn a more permanent role. It's not like he didn't have any games this year. He's had a couple of wider series, three games. Dallas-Detroit's at 52.5 right now. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

That sounds about right. Beautiful. Trey Tucker didn't perform this week. Likely to see Devontae Adams leave town. Juju. What do you do with Juju on the waiver wire right now? He's rostered basically nowhere. Had the 7-for-130 game.

We know that it was kind of one big play, but it also is involved. 24% of the targets. But they're going into a buy week. So is this that category you just mentioned? You're happy with your team and you need a stash? 100%. What would you spend up on him? Juju?

Do you believe it? I believe that the usage is real. It's going to be this way the rest of the year? Yeah, but 50-yard gains for Juju at this point, that seems like a high bar for him to duplicate. But I think that the targets should be there.

Do you want Justin Watson? He was on the field for 70% of the stats, but he didn't have a single target. No, I don't. This is... When Juju was on the Chiefs a couple years ago, he was very usable. A couple players that have been picked up recently that are going into the bye

that I wonder if you would just drop. Jordan Whittington. Oh, he's so tough. And Tutu Atwell, because Cooper Cupp is going to be back after the bye week. Right. Week seven. And then some point after we'll get Puka. Puka. Puka.

Boy, between Puka and Tutu. Yeah, I know. But Whittington had a big game, seven for 89. Start of the week. Yeah, in both our DraftKings lineups. 92% of snaps. I probably would – I'd let 2-2 go for sure going into the bye week, but I'd probably hang on to Whittington.

It's really difficult to stash a player like Whittington, but he is a rookie, and he has had back-to-back strong games. So you have to pay attention. Cooper might not be back. There is that chance, and then there's the chance that when Cooper Cup and Puk are back, Whittington's the third guy. They talked about him all offseason, and now he's coming through. I don't think you put him back on the bench.

Alan Lazard is interesting because of the 10 targets and the fact that he seems to be a go-to receiver in the red zone. Is Alan Lazard on your – I mean, he's at a number 3, number 24, number 27 week. I feel like if Tolbert's in play, Lazard's probably in play. He's usable. Well, I'd receive receiver 20 on the year. But, I mean, I guess Rodgers threw the ball 54 times. That's the hard part is this team, the way that they play, it seems like the 30 attempts, 35,

that's closer to where they would want him to be. And then the past two weeks they've had to air it out maybe that's why Sala got canned because they don't like what's going on I mean Lazard is I'm not prioritizing him by by any means but he's a you get to Saturday and you're like oh man I gotta find someone to put him yeah Lazard is he has he has the connection that we're hoping Garrett Wilson gets to eight red zone targets which is the sixth most in the NFL, but the Jets are also the favorites to get to get Adams.

That would change it. Garrett Wilson just had a career week. 22 targets, big game. Jets are favorites to land Adams. Wilson had not looked good. Would you strategically trade Wilson right now off of that game?

Oh man, it's a very fair question. I think I would hold Garrett Wilson. That was exactly what the doctor ordered of just the, we're going to get in the ball and we're going to get in the ball in short space too. We're not seeing Garrett Wilson, at least last week, really get down the field, which is part of why if Devonta Adams comes into town, yeah, he'll take up a good piece of the target pie, but Adams is excellent going downfield where maybe Garrett Wilson just needs to be, this is where he needs to operate

for the time being in his career. So I don't think that Adams coming to town is like, oh, we're done. Garrett Wilson's it's over. It's not happening. It could be fine for Garrett Wilson. Would you trade him for Drake London? Oh, man.

With that hanging over the team? I don't mind it. It's kind of a lateral move, and it's hard to not overreact when you saw Kirk Cousins just go crazy on an Island game. Would you trade him

for Marvin Harrison? I would rather, oh my gosh, Garrett or Marvin? Yeah, I think I'd go Marv. Touchdown upside. There are some names, some drop candidates that are popping in here and I'm going to give you the Mooney or this guy

rest of season Olave no give me Olave Juwan Jennings yeah give me Mooney Keenan big game from DJ Morris seems like a big game from Keenan is a long ways away. Yeah.

I mean, I, yeah, I don't mind Mooney over Keenan tank Dell tank. Dell has been one of the bigger bus of the season. He is sitting after four played games as the wide receiver, 72, seven points,

1.8 points, five points. It's really disappointing. He's going to miss. So you so you look at him and you say, hey, Tank Dell should be good. He should be, but Nico also played 13% of that game. Right. And Tank Dell ended at four for 38.

With the week of practice and changing how the game plan's going to be, if they're planning to be without Nico. He was also coming off an injury. I think for. But I would take coming off an injury. I think for – But I would take Mooney. Wow. I think Mooney's about – This week and long term?

Yeah, both. I think that might be the right call. Keon Coleman or Mooney? I like Mooney. I'm going to hold Keon Coleman there. Dontavian Wicks, who can't quite catch the football. Look, other players have really struggled with drops throughout their career, Mike Evans being one of them.

If you are good enough, the drops get forgiven. Some players just have a higher drop rate. Now he needs to produce more, but I'm still in with Wicks. Against Arizona this week, I don't expect Christian Watson to be back from the ankle, and I think that Wicks remains a strong play. It just did – watching the targets of Dontavion Wicks, a lot was Jordan Love's fault too. Jordan Love has looked bad for two weeks.

Yeah. He has made some bad decisions. He has made some bad throws. He's gone off platform. Admittedly, I will say I don't know. The first two misses for Wicks were deep out routes. Yeah, where he didn't cut it close necessarily. Maybe Wicks rounded it too much, the route.

So I can't say 100%, but it looked like without how much space was there, that looks like Jordan Love has to get a better ball there. Yeah, that makes sense. All right, we'll come back and talk some of that bad economy. Talk about the tight end position in just a minute. All right, to chase or not to chase, Mike, Tucker Kraft rostered in 65% of leagues. He was the start of the week.

He was the pickup last week because you hoped and dreamed of a 4-4-88-2, and that's what you got with Tucker Craft. So if he was still out there, how hard in the paint are you going? What's the long-term view of Tucker Craft? I think it's excellent. I would go pretty hard after him. Week one was bizarre where he was out there the whole time and only saw 9% of the targets, but it was very clear he was running ahead of Musgrave. Since then, the target share,

even including the games with Willis, it's gone up every single week. I'm not chasing two touchdowns on four catches. I'm chasing a 20% target share from Jordan Love. Is it troubling at all that I might be rooting for him to only have one good game? Tucker? Yeah, so that I can call him a Kraft single. Ooh. But he's had two good games already.

So it's all ruined. When you're in the tight end two and then tight end one. Dang it. I'm counting this. That's all ruined. When you're in the tight end two and then tight end one. Dang it. I'm counting this. That's a craft double. Tyler Conklin back into form last week. Six for 55.

Rostered in only 30% of leagues. He's a spot start candidate. Yeah, he's not. He's a band-aid. And I think Zach Ertz is in the same category. Ertz had eight targets. He only caught two of them, but eight targets at tight end, and one of them was a seam route that it was a Jaden Daniels mistake,

and he would have had about a 70-yard touchdown in this game, which is weird for Zach Ertz. But eight targets, to me, you can chase. And I think he hit most waiver wires. He's fine. Look, Mike, fine is amazing. I get it. Would you start Conklin over Andrews?

Man, I don't know what to make of the Mark Andrews game. Baltimore had the matchup this week is a 52.5 point over under. Yeah, against Washington. The Mark Andrews game, he was non-existent through three and a third. Yep. He ends up four for 55. Charlie Kohler scores. He's the third ranked tight end on his own team right now.

He could have scored on his one opportunity. That would have changed our – if he goes six for 57 and a touchdown. Yes. You're pretty much having changed our if he if he goes six for 57 and a touchdown yes you're pretty much having it or i'm sorry not six for 57 what was he four for 55 so four for 57 and a touchdown you're probably having a different conversation yeah people would be more willing to go back in i don't know how i don't think i'd start i'd start craft over him but i probably wouldn't go conklin or it's a Cotton or Strange. I'm okay with that. Mark Andrews, it looks like it'll just be, it's game script where he was not involved.

Yeah, but that's not... No, I know, that's not great. That's what I'm saying. No, no, but I don't buy that. I don't think that is... I didn't think it held water last week and I don't think it holds water this week. Okay. Because they just put up 9,000 points in this game. The game script in this game was not run the football.

Now, are you saying that you looked at this game as a success? Because to me, I look at a game where you score 38, where you had to throw the ball whatever 40-plus times, and Andrews barely does anything. That's how I'm looking at it. The first half, Mark Andrews was not involved because the game was close, and they were running, and they were having to play defense. So wait, what game script helps Andrews, though?

Because the game script where they – When the Cincinnati Bengals are all of a sudden up by two scores. That's not a common game script for Baltimore. No, it's not. We're saying the same thing. Okay, okay. I'm saying it was like that sucks. That's a really bad position for Mark Andrews to be in.

He is a talented player. Kohler only ran six routes. So Mark Andrews was – Yeah, but you never had a Kohler. No, no, you didn't. And likely ran way more routes than Mark Andrews. And scored twice. To me, it's like saying – I've been saying this before.

The gap between where Andrews is now and where you'd want him to be is too far to go. I think I agree with that. And if the game script where they're running the football all the time in their head means no Andrews, and the game script where they are even means no Andrews, and the only game script where you get a little Andrews is if you're down multiple scores and you're Baltimore,

that is threading the needle on an opportunity to be happy. Yes, I'm in agreement of that. David Njoku got re-injured. He came back, caught the first target, was going to get load managed in this game, and then load managed himself with an injury. Do we have any update, Al, on David Njoku? He was supposed to get an MRI on the knee.

I'll take a look. I still think Njoku, like somebody said, is he a drop candidate? I mean, yes and no. Tucker Kraft is now a super valuable tight end. David Njoku, with the opportunity, especially if Cooper leaves town,

David Njoku could be the number one target for Cleveland. Yeah. It's just whether his health is there. With the rumors of Amari Cooper, if you can afford to hold Njoku, I think I would. But it's tough. I mean, especially if he misses next week. If you don't have IR,

eh, that's a really tough call. Defensively this week week Houston plays New England New England might be playing Drake May this week so Houston's defense against the worst offense in football with a rookie potentially Philly comes back from their bye they get to play Deshaun Watson.

That one I like a lot. He loves getting sacked by trying to do too much. See, when you try to do too much, the outcome of you doing too much at least needs to be good. If you do bad things, you should do less. Yep. You have to trade huge plays. If you're going to take a sack,

you've got to be hitting huge plays. What if you don't, though? What if you don't hit them? Yeah, but you get paid anyways. If you're going to take a sack, you've got to be hitting huge plays. What if you don't, though? What if you don't hit them? Yeah, but you get paid anyways. Then it sounds like your team made some really bad decisions. Pittsburgh heavily rostered, but play Las Vegas, and they don't know who they're playing at quarterback, and they don't

have Devontae Adams, and so they are a mess. They're a must-start. Denver, a lot of people picked them up last week, but if they're out there, they're the number two defense in fantasy. They play the Chargers, who have struggled to move the ball, and they play really slow. This was somebody that we pointed out yesterday.

Not a lot of plays for the Chargers. It lowers your danger of a big game, and the Broncos are just elite on defense. They're 3-2. Their offense does not look like anything worth watching. They're 3-2. Their offense does not look like anything worth watching. They're 3-2 because that defense is outstanding. And on the other side, the Chargers play Denver. So both of those are...

I mean, Bo Nix... Yeah. No. No. So the Raiders play Pittsburgh. So there's some talk this morning about Russell Wilson. I still think they're going to give Russell Wilson a shot at quarterback at some point here soon.

I think people are enamored with the fantasy value that Fields has provided at times, but I don't think Pittsburgh can go where they want to go with Justin Fields. They've been winning. Or Russell Wilson,

but we don't know the Russell part. Those first three weeks, it was basically one score victories, except for the Chargers. They won by 10. Now they're losing by just a field goal. I don't know. You were pointing out in those first three weeks that they played some pretty bad opponents.

Oh, yeah. Fresh Kirk Cousins, Bo Nix, banged up Justin Herbert, and then the Indy game, which they lost that one. By the way, if you want to see all of our waiver wire rankings, you can go to the website fantasyfootballers.com and if you

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yeah oh there it is definitely definitely not a reason why I haven't mentioned him yet today the people want it man well look Jay Griss is going to be with us all week so kind of you know be careful on the trigger finger over there but Caleb Williams is the obvious pick

for Jay Griss of course big Bears fan and genuinely Caleb looked amazing last week trending in the right direction he's got all of his receivers back I love what Odunze does with the ball after the catch and then DJ Moore has been elite

big week for Williams and he plays Jacksonville so that's a legit streamer yeah I would say Carolina makes people look pretty good yeah but the Jags they could make Caleb look pretty good as well. I'm going to take the layup here. Yeah, I saw that you did this.

Because I got in first. I didn't have the, you know, I had the integrity not to. Speaking of Carolina making teams look pretty good, Kirk Cousins, hot off of 500 passing yards, will be playing against the Carolina Panthers. What would you spend on fab to get Kirk Cousins? Because Carolina, Seattle coming up, he had the big game. I'm not going to overdo it.

Different player, different situation, but it's like the Derek Carr. Week three, Derek Carr was coming off of two games. You're like, I can't believe this. This can't be the new normal for the Saints. Can it? No. And the answer was no, it cannot. 500 yards for Kirk Cousins, that's not happening. That was the record, right? He broke Matt Ryan's record. He did. So I'm not expecting that, but he should have a good game. In terms of what am I going to spend? 10% of fab if you need a quarterback. If you really need that, like your roster's looking good,

but your quarterback is on bye this week, then I can see it. But the quarterback on bye this week, by the way, probably not the case. Maybe Mahomes. Yeah, Mahomes. Like if you had Mahomes and you don't have another quarterback, I'd spend up on Cousins because he might be your quarterback the rest of the year. But Darnold and Tua and Stafford are probably not your quarterback. Darnold is

Darnold's part of the reason like guys like that where I don't want to just drop a huge amount of fab on Cousins. I'd like to play him this week but I would like to pick up Sam Darnold and play the stretch of games coming up for the Minnesota Vikings.

I would love to get on that too. I would say Joe Flacco is my favorite streamer this week. If he gets to start again, he just cooks with the opportunity. If he doesn't, you could go to Geno Smith, fairly heavily rostered, but if he's out there Thursday night, San Francisco, he's been really good. Top 10 quarterback in four or five weeks.

That would be the Patrick Mahomes zero five weeks stat. But I like Flacco, and then I would turn to Geno Smith, but I like Cousins above. That's the premier pickup, and Caleb Williams I like as well. The nasty one is Daniel Jones. Here's the nasty one. And Caleb Williams I like as well. The nasty one is Daniel Jones. Here's the nasty one. Assuming that Malik is back and they get to play against the Bengals, the process is good for that one.

Results may vary. Two weeks ago I said get out of the Patrick Mahomes universe. Uh-huh. Then Rashi Rice gets hurt. Is he a drop? Could you drop Patrick Mahomes? If nobody's biting because of five weeks of ineptitude, you should be able to trade him still.

He was over 300 yards. The way you do that is take Mahomes and then take another player and go offer for a slight upgrade on Mahomes. Go offer Mahomes, and if Mooney is just an extra resource you have, go offer Mahomes and Mooney for another quarterback. I think that it's okay aesthetically because you have Mahomes in there. It looks like you've lost the trade because you're like,

oh, I'm trading Mahomes and whatever for this one player my homes is it it's just it's been so long where this we were at this point last year about halfway through of like you should probably go get my homes because he's patrick my homes he of course he will turn it around and the schedule is amazing and then he never did would you would you trade myomes and Godwin for Kyler? No, I would not. That's way too much for me. Way too much. Yeah.

Okay. I was trying to find some. Mahomes and Mooney probably doesn't get that done, though. You probably can't go get Kyler for that. You might be able to. Maybe that's the type of move I want you to think about. Otherwise, though, if you couldn't trade him, everyone says, ha-ha, no.

He hits away everywhere, right? Dude, I can't handle talking about it. I know. I can't handle it. The advice is just trade him. Just find a way to trade. Wait for a big game and trade him. I don't know if you'll get a big game.

That's the problem is I don't know if the big game will ever come, but it's Patrick Mahomes, and we've seen him be 505 or whatever just things that he can't do percent of the time above 20 points yeah 11 i that's not startable it's all emotional right now with patrick mahomes and you just have to look yourself in the eye, look in the mirror, and say, hey, this is what we're going to do with Patrick Mahomes, and we're okay with it. Say either I'm going to ride it out, I think he'll turn around, or I'm going to trade him. And regardless of that, I have to be emotionally okay with that decision.

You weren't here yesterday. I didn't get to get your reaction on the Josh Allen season so far. Oh. Because two good games, three terrible games. Did you realize he went nine for 30 in the game yesterday? I did, yeah. A few days ago? I went and watched back, and it was like, what are we doing?

What are we doing here? So is he a player that you are looking to capitalize on the name? Like, do you believe what Jason's live show bold prediction was that this, you know, the second half of the year is going to be tough? No Shakir, no viable weapons. They missed digs. Obviously, they could get Adams, but. So, looking schedule-wise, because that's what you got to do here,

next week is on the road against the Jets with the potential of the one-game hoorah of the team, the uptick as they support the new coach. That one could be rough. Then Tennessee, Seattle, Miami, the Colts, and the Chiefs. I think Josh Allen is a really interesting buy low right now. The schedule is not – that's not what you're buying. You're just buying the talents of Josh Allen who can be – like Josh Allen can still be the top three quarterback on any given week

where it feels low odds for Patrick Mahomes. So this is the only time you can get a player like Josh Allen. If he's cooking, you will never get him. That's the side you come down on? I think that's where – As opposed to trading him away. Yeah, I would be more on the side of I'm going to hope that the talent figures it out.

It's like Lamar, right? Can you go get Lamar right now? No. Probably not. No way. He's number one. It would be outrageously expensive. But we know that the history of Lamar is there's probably some games coming up

here where it's going to be rough. So it's timing the market. Lamar or Allen rest of the season? Who would you rather have? Lamar. Okay. Just making sure. I think.

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