Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 7 Matchups, Spot Starts + Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/17

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Oct 17, 2025. Week 7 start/sit advice for fantasy football lineups! Lots of matchups covered on today’s show with fantasy football player outlooks. Plus, injury updates, and a recap of Thursday Night Football! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(00:45) Thursday Night Recap(10:00) Footclan Friday(10:55) NFL News(17:45) Fantasy Forecast(19:30) Giants at Broncos(26:55) Colts at Chargers(33:45) Commanders at Cowboys(39:50) Packers at Cardinals(55:30) Buccaneers at Lions(01:03:15) Texans at Seahawks(01:08:20) Fantasy Faceoff + Wheel of ShameConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The fantasy footballer's studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Friday, October 17th. Shaking my head after that Thursday night game. Welcome into the fantasy footballers. Hoof. 33 to 31. I know the world wants to hear our reaction to that madness, but...

What a game. Exactly how everyone saw it going. I remember asking. asking you earlier in the week, like, are you excited for this game? You're like, yeah, maybe. Maybe we'll get lucky. It was awesome for many, many players. It was very not good for others, but I hope you played your Steelers tight ends, right? Yeah, I mean, AFC North, you know, just how it always goes. Yeah, it's a hard-nosed, rough and tumble. Defense first. 13 to 10. No, 3331. Bengals.

yards passing for Joe Flacco, three touchdowns. Joe Flacco, I saw something this morning. He now has the same amount of wins as Joe Burrow in games in which the opponent scored 30 or more points. Wow. It's very specific, but. Well, I mean, it's not that bad. It's just literally, if the Bengals give up 30, can you win the game?

Yeah. And Joe Flacco managed to do it. He passed the ball to Jamar Chase 23 times. That's what we're talking about. It reminds me a Brandon Marshall. on Monday Night Football years ago from Jake Cutler. I can remember it clearly because he had like 17 catches on 20-something targets.

Right. I mean, this was throw it to your best player on every play. It wasn't just throw it to your best player on every play. It was, we got two plays. Oh, dude. My favorite part of the game by far. And it was routed. It was amazing.

It was when there were four identical routes and passes in a row. You're saying to end the half. Yeah, to end the half. And it was just like, hey, that tomorrow's run 15 yards, go to the left. I'm going to throw you the ball. Four times in a row is going to work. They can't stop it.

No. The final drive, he got more open than he did all day after 21 targets. I don't understand, like. Oh, man, the don't get me started on the Steelers defense. So they didn't have one. I couldn't, I couldn't believe how bad. It was like they were playing eight guys on defense. You were, you were, people don't know this, but you traded for the Steelers defense from me.

Yeah. Mid show yesterday. It showed yesterday. Yesterday. To play them. Great, great defense that's been on a heater. You got how many points? Oh, I got, I got negative one.

So I spotted Josh a point and got rid of one of my roster spots. That was. But I traded for that. It felt like you were counterpunching my Justin Jefferson trade. Yeah, oh, that's true. You're Justin Jefferson trade. And you'll be like, I got to make a move. I got to make a move.

I got to beat Josh this week. So I need those negative points, man. The game, it also was like. It reminded me of Joe Flacko. Yeah. Right. Like, hey, I messaged Slack like halfway through a game. I've seen enough.

Turns out the Cleveland Browns were actually the problem. It was not Joe Flacco. And that's why Mike Tomlin didn't like the trade. Yeah, because that cost them a game. No, for sure. With Jake Browning there? There's no chance. No, no, 31 to 3.

It would have been. When we were like, you know, can Joe Flacko? really changed things for the Cincinnati Bengals. And it was, I mean, just go two weeks ago. After seeing what Flacco is doing on the Browns, yeah, you've got to have some hope, some optimism that a change will be different. And bringing up, like, Joe Flacko is just, he's a veteran quarterback. He can make reads real fast.

So the offensive line, while it's a problem, Joe Flacco can actually identify where I got to go real, real quick, more than Jake Browning. and that had I actually think this I hope this doesn't come off too hot takey but it honestly feels like Joe Burrow behind this offensive line was doing worse because he was trying to do more maybe Flacco's so afraid of getting hit and knows he can't buy time in the pocket it I was watching the defense like a hawk for the Steelers because they were my fantasy defense and it was impossible you couldn't sack him because the ball

just was snapped and out snapped two steps out snap three steps out. And it's like, you can't, you know, JJ Watt was, was, uh, or T.J. Y was doing great. Never got to him. Yeah. I mean, he'd beat his guy. And by the time. How frustrating that must Oh, it, it was frustrating for him, frustrating for me more. Um, and, and so it was like, I kept having that thought during the game of like, man, I wonder if they make the playoffs and Joe Burrow comes back. He needs to like learn a lesson from this. Like, because Joe Burrow is better, obviously today than Joe Flacco, but he took sacks

that killed drives because he's trying to make something special. Right. Just like it would be an amazing performance if Joe Flacco had been there all year long. It's even more amazing in the fact that he just showed up and if you saw the post game interview with him and Jamar Chase, he was like we got these play calls to have like

F at the end of him. He's like, I don't even know what they are. Yeah. He's like, I don't even understand what they're calling. Did you see the the quarterback read the run that was unbelievable. Oh my gosh. That was not called. Oh, that was not called. That was Flacco. Joe Flacco's like, it's my time. It's got to call my own number. It was insane. I mean, Jamar Chase, if it's any consolation, I traded you the Steelers defense Jason, but then I faced

Jamar Chase last night. And it's a little better. Okay. So my week's over. And to all the people, like, would Jamar Chase, trying to remember where we were two weeks ago. It's like, what do you possibly do and I was, if I had Jamar, I would have traded him. I was going to say like I would have traded him. Somebody went online and they were calling us out for saying that we would have traded him for Kuge. This was a time before Joe Flacco

when you had Jake Browning doing nothing in this offense. Also, the fact of I wouldn't do that now. I wouldn't have done that before this week. I'm saying like when even when they traded for Flacco you weren't at your two weeks ago like well this is the solution. It's well maybe it could be slightly better and

the brands. We're only two weeks. Maybe teams figure out how to get to Flacco and stop this, but this is so exciting. Yeah, they gave up 31 points still. They still did that. They gave up 249 and 4 to Aaron Rogers. They made Pat Friar Muth, but Luthith

man in the world. But like T. Higgins having himself a great game, 6 for 96 with a touchdown. The Chase Brown went over a hundred rushing. There was one big disappointment in the game. 100%. And Look. And the D stands for disappointment. 249 and 4.

Yeah. That's what Aaron Rogers threw out. I mean, I mean, shout the streams, unbelievable. Oh, Joe Flacco was the stream. Rogers and Flacco being streams coming through in huge ways. But 249 and 4, clearly D.K. Metcalf had himself at least a very good game. I'll take it one step further, right off the bat, a 39-yard pass to D.K. Metcalfe. That means he had 11 the rest of the way?

Yeah. I mean, it was like, oh, D.K. He didn't get a target. Johnny Smith scored, Darnel Washington scored, and Friarmeath, the three tight-ins. Believe second and third quarter. Second and third quarter, I don't think D.K. Matt Kaff got a target. And what was? Just the way Arthur likes it.

Yeah, it. Tight-ins only. That one felt, oh, so bad. Because everyone on the, everyone that you played on the Steelers side, great. Jalen Warren, absolute dog. Full workload. 16 for 1, 27, 4-4-4-31 through the air. the, what, I don't know if you guys

noticed this, but so, you know, the, the last pass there at the end before they set up the Hail Mary, which shout out to Aaron Rogers, still cannon armed. Unbelievable. Still cannon armed. Did you know? 70 yards in the air. It was like 68 point something, but it was the longest pass through the air since 2017. This version of Aaron Rogers did that. I can't believe he got it to the end zone. Yeah. But the, you know, they ran one play because like we got to get a couple yards to set it up and you're like obviously he's

going to go to d k metcalf no he went to friar muth i think he just went to the end zone man no no no the oh oh the the short yard it's play it was like erin rogers in that time where he's going to just go to the guy that he trusts to make a play at that point of the game he's like i'm not throwing it to dk i'm throwing it to muth you guys have seen the clip wild of aaron rogers after yes getting friar muth touchdown where his own guy comes up and celebrates with him, kind of jumps on his back, accidentally. He tackles him because he's old,

and I get that because it's like... And he's a gigantic offensive lineman. And he's a gigantic offensive lineman. But he wasn't tackling him. He was jumping on his back and then Aaron Rogers is old and fell down. And Aaron Rogers gets up and he's like, get off me, so pissed off. And I get it.

I get both sides of it. Yeah. But also is the most Aaron Rogers thing. Oh, it is. Just what a crommotion. I get it. When I get startled. My, I go, I'm mad.

I'm not a startled, like, oh, I laugh it off. I get startled. I instantly get angry. There's nothing I can do about it. Yeah, I mean, is there anything else? No, I mean, Jalen Warren was good. Everyone was good. Freaking D.K. MacG.? Except for D.K. MacC., who was below average.

Well, not only below average, the interception. Yeah. It was just. Oh, yeah, it was him. He just there. The Bengals are like, give me that. All right. Friday.

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News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. Well, we had one of the wide receiver shoes drop officially, formally. Pooka and Akua ruled out for this week. That'll be nice for your lineups being able to set some things up. We're still waiting on like Abuca and Harrison and Garrett Wilson's doubt. Now, Gary was, he's doubtful. He's got a chance. Yeah, we need to. A chance of a multi-week injury. We talked about this, like I think we'll put this into play next year,

but we'll let doubtful start to go into the IR. Yeah, for on sleeper. Because, I mean, if that player becomes active and you want to play them, you still have to drop somebody to move them back into the lineup. So I don't think, I don't think that's a big deal. All right, David Najokin did not practice again. Chuba Hubbard limited on Thursday. Calvin Ridley did not practice on Thursday.

Stefan Diggs limited. Any concerns from that group? I mean, Njoku is not going to play, I don't think. I would agree with that. And then Chuba is the one I'm most interested in just to see that RICO resurgence, or surgeons, we should say. Is that? I don't know if it's really a resurgence. I know he was good at the end of last year, but he's never done what he's done this last two weeks. Like he didn't rush for a thousand yards last year? A lot of guys rush for a thousand yards. No, they don't.

It's like 57 yards a game. He's rushing for 200 yards a game. There's different things. That is. You're moving the goalpost, man. Jason, once again, surgeon, it's not a real word. But I get what you're saying. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Yeah, and Jacobi Myers, Brock Bowers didn't practice. Seems like both are going to miss. What do you do? Let's ask the question briefly here. Is Trey Tucker the number one? It seems like it for now, yeah. And then, like, because Jack Bash, he played 75% of snaps. He had zero catches last week.

Thornton did nothing. Yeah, well, Thornton is off the field now. Bash is just the back to the dynasty hold. But now you're going to move what I'm saying is if Jacobi Myers and Brock Bowers are off the field. Yeah, that is Tucker. Who's the spot start this week? It's Tucker? Yeah.

J.J. McCarthy limited again. Carson Wins. A full participant seems like Carson Wins is going to play. DJ Moore returned to a limited practice with the. Oh, man, it's going around. Yeah. DeAndre Swift was added to the injury report because of a groin injury, grindindex.com letting us know. And this is a- There are quotes on the matter. Yeah, this was a later addition. So it's a little scary.

Monong, all right. Kyle Monong guy should be rostered. Yeah. Probably already is. Yeah, probably. But some guys like that, they go on and off of the waiver wire. C.D. Lamb is going to play. Terry McClorin looking not good again. Yeah, man. What is going on there? He didn't practice on Thursday after a limited Wednesday.

It's not really working well. I had this thought. So we talked about how the holdout guys over the last several years have not had a great run of getting back to football when they hold out of training camp. Obviously, you know, with Brandon I.U. Katara McLaurin here this year. Is that like Rushie Rice, who is not holding up? out, but also he was, like, not able to practice, right? I don't know.

Sure, there is definitely some of that to be, it's a variable. The, when the guys are doing the hold in, though, I feel like they're at practice just just standing around, just standing around where Rishie Rice, I mean, per the video. Yeah. That dude is the comeback. Yes. Because the world, the world is against me. People are, we're very eager.

How dare they be upset of my breaking of the law? They were very eager to let me know as though we had forgotten that he's coming back from an injury as well. But the truth is that if... That's why he was missing time. He was healthy and would have played in week one with the injury.

He was already in training camp and preseason. So he had, as far as I'm concerned, you returned from the injury when you played in preseason. Right. You returned. His ankle was okay on an accelerator there. And by the way, this show, we make jokes.

All right? I know that he's not O.J. Simpson. All right. That was a funny little joke. All right? Being hyperbolic. It was me picturing O.J. making a comeback video. That's the funny part of it.

You just taking a stab at it. Oh. Thank you, Jason. I'm joking. That's a Norm McDonald joke. That is a good. Hey, Debo, by the way, Tom Pelliserro, your boy, Mike, real uncertainty

about whether Debo or McLaren will be available. What is the, who's the pickup for you? Is it McAfree? Luke McCaffrey. Is it Jalen Lane? Tell me why it's Traylon Burks. Wait, did they sign him? Yeah, they signed. To the practice squad. Yeah, he's not ready to play. He's not going to be starting this week, but they did sign

him. Well, that is still indicative of injury issues and concerns. Yeah. I mean, if you go out and sign Traylon Burks, that's a good indication that like they're concerned about McLaren and Samuel in their wide receiver room. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, Debo, Terry McLaren

on red alert there. Quentin Johnston, he's supposed to be back. Yeah, he, I mean, at least on sleeper, I thought he got upgraded to healthy. So still was limited on Thursday. Monitor that. Josh Downs, no practice, concussion. He's not going to play. Like he's going to be out.

And we'll talk about more injury situations in the matchups today. that the cd lamb news i don't think we said it on the show but andy you told me that there was a quote uh from schottenheimer about whether you you are frozen that was so that was that freaked me out i thought i was in a simulation there if you if you go to the youtube you straight froze well i did you you jumped in and i didn't want to interrupt but the schottenheimer um quote what was it about whether or not cdly are you concerned with you know what does he have to show you know you know yeah

But you have to show in practice this week to make you feel good about him playing. And he just said if he's breathing. Yeah. Also, then yesterday there was the... So reporting now, he is breathing. It was Schottenheimer's birthday, apparently. And he said, this is my birthday present. I mean, C.D. Lambecki.

It's a big deal. It is. All right. Anything else you want to chat about? Freeze me on. That was News & Note, sponsored by Progressive Insurance Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers. Not available in all states or situations.

Coverage subject to policy terms. limits and conditions. All right, we'll take a break and jump into the forecast. Yesterday we covered the Rams, Jags, the London game. We covered Saints, Bears, Dauphins, Patriots, Titans, Raiders, Chiefs, Eagles, Vikings, and and we'll move on to the rest of the matchups today. Still monitoring a few weather situations. Again, we, you know, when you're talking about it on Thursday,

there's a long way to go between Thursday and Sunday morning and how things change. We've had lots of games that look bad that end up fine. The Cleveland, Miami game. Well, there you go. Wait. Breaking news. Sorry, McClorin officially ruled out already. Oh, he is not coming back.

That escalated. Also escalating the reports for weather in the Cleveland game. Wait, they're getting worse now? Well, it's just moving from a, this could happen to now it's moving to, like this is a shoutout to Kevin Roth, who's saying his models. Now we're looking at trending to a sustained wins of 20 to 25 with gusts around 40. That's bad. Like he, you know, he keeps an eye on it and he tries to be pretty measured of,

just pay attention, it's moved into the, uh-oh. With definite rain, is what I'm seeing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if it's like rain, I don't really care about unless it's a torrential downpour, but rain when you have 20 mile an hour winds, that's a problem. All right. Well, speaking of a problem, this implied point total for the Giants is a problem. The Giants are two and four.

They travel to Denver to take on the four and two Broncos. I just want to party with the Giants. I know. And the Denver Broncos are... The Vegas line here, Denver... Party poopers. Minus 7. Over under's 39 and a half.

All right. All right. Does that help? Yeah. Andy's almost upset of the week. That's a big line. I got some room there. The Giants implied point total of 16.3.

Broncos 23.3. I think this game will be closer. I mean, the Broncos have been a very up and down team. They haven't looked great. You know, some weeks they look great. Some weeks they looked inept. Yeah, they're not like just having a slightly off week. They look real bad on the weeks that they're off.

Now they're at home. They're heavily favored. They got a great defense. You expect them to put a lot of pressure on the Giants and Jackson Dart and Scataboo and company, but I still think that the Giants will be able to keep this thing close. They have a good defense of their own. And the way that the Broncos have played, you know, do they get it going again? We'll see.

I'm not saying that they're going to lose the game, but I think it could be a lot closer. On the giant side of the football, Jackson Dart, somehow still only rostered in 54% of leagues. That doesn't make sense to me with the rushing upside of Jackson Dart. Not that you have to play him, nor would I probably play him here with the risks involved. But, you know, you can have a, I mean, Justin Fields is an example of. You can have a very ineffective passing, low yardage game, but big fantasy day just by running the football. Yeah, I think he's probably not rostered because the schedule is tough. It's Denver this week.

It's Philly next week, which obviously that's who he just was the quarterback for against, but you don't really like. He was at home in that one. He was at home. There was no Jalen Carter. You know, it's like you don't expect him to repeat what, you know, that magical win against Philly. I'm sure they will be huge underdogs despite just beating them. So that's the tough part about rostering Jackson Dart.

I do think he is certainly fantasy viable throughout the season in the right match. Will he run for more than 50 yards like he has for his first three starts? Not in this one. Just because Denver is very good at Denver. Yeah, the mobile quarterbacks are not getting it done. You have Daniel Jones had two yards, Herbert at six. Jalen Hertz at three. Justin Fields had 31.

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a good point. You can't quarterback run on the Broncos. You were the Cam Scataboo guy last week, Jason. you gave us the, you know, encouragement to play him in a what seemed like a tough matchup. We're here again. It seems like a very tough matchup, seventh against the run. There's no world where I'm ever benching Camp Academy.

I don't even look at the matchup personally. The matchup is irrelevant when you are getting 20 opportunities a game. And what he did last week in helping cement like the new giants means that the opportunities will still be there this week. And so 20 opportunities, maybe it turns into a bad game and a tough defense. He scores nine fantasy points, and you're disappointed. But I'm always going to take the opportunities. You'd have to have, you know, you'd have to have Josh Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor to be like, okay, I've got to sit down Scataboo.

There's only four running backs in the last five weeks that have been in the top 24 every week, and he's one of them with CMC, A Chan, and Jonathan Taylor. Scataboo right now. He's the only one that eats crayons of that group. He is loves crans, lead chip. rocks. He started eating rocks. You know, Scataboo in week one played 12% of the snaps, wasn't really involved

his first rookie game. And including that game, he's the running back 10 in fantasy football. Goodness gracious. He's dominating as a rookie. And it's nice because if they're up, like they were last week, he'll get 19 carries and probably be scoring a touchdown, and that's why they're up. If they're down, like in previous weeks, he gets

seven targets, eight targets. He's involved in the passing game. So I... Well, they don't have receivers. I mean, Wondale Robinson is there, but Dary Slayton is hurt. Little Jordan Humphrey up from the practice squad to be their leading receiver last week. Theo Johnson seems touchdown or bus. I mean... We should just call him Jordan Humphrey.

But that's not his name. Yeah, his name's Little Jordan. He's so big. He is. He is. The juxtaposition. Yeah, he's Lil Jordan. A little oxymoron. Yeah. Yeah. Is that that's... Yeah. Like jumbo shrimp. Or like Lil John. Right. Yeah. Or

little Jordan Humphrey. how what a jumbo shrimp what is the size status of little wayne oh he's he's little he's very small okay so he is he is a teenyy tiny he is little Wayne hmm yeah okay math checks out on that one mm-hmm jk Dobbins where what's the temperature check on jk. Dobbins the giant's defense 100% the same as scataboo to me this is a guy he's not getting 20 opportunities a game but he is getting enough work he had a very bad game last week and so people might go oh, I want to move off of him or pivot off. But he is the guy, like the utilization was still there.

His usage, 78% of the running back rushing attempts last week. And so this is, the Giants don't have a great run defense, usually, most of the season. They're, you know, ranked 24th and schedule adjusted against running back. So to me, Dobbins and Scatibu are in. Obviously, Cortland Sutton, Andy's, your start of the week should be a good bounceback player. Yeah, the biggest question to me is Bo Nix. Yeah, I think Bo Nix is a fringe. He's a fringe starter, depending on what you have.

And I don't think I'm really like settling into Bo Nix being your every week start at all for the rest of the season. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that going into the playoffs. Yeah, I can agree with that. Let's just, so Bo Nix, Giants this week, it's not bad. It's not, you know, it's just middle of the pack. Dallas next week. Yeah. Okay, dokey.

Yeah, that's good stuff. Fire them up. Delightful. Houston, on the road, not great. But then Vegas, okay, Kansas City. It's kind of a red light, green light situation. It really bounces around, honestly. So pick up another player.

Yeah, you might need to do a little, your own bench streaming. Well, you can look at the strength of schedule tool on the website, streamfinder tool and try to identify some players. Anybody else on that side of the ball that you want to talk about? I mean, RJ Harvey is not playable right now. The wide receivers, Mims and Franklin and all them, not playable right now. Yeah, if I'm doing anything,

this is a deep league type of a situation because it's a little bit. But their rookie Pat Bryant, who had a lot. He had a lot of off-season hype going around him. I think it was a third-round pick. You know, Sean Payton talked glowingly about him. We liked him in the off-season.

I liked him in the off-season. off season because the number two was not established for the Denver Broncos. It seemed like at the beginning of the year, Troy Franklin is going to take that job and run with it. And he was doing okay at the beginning. The snaps have decreased while the routes, the route participation for Pat Bryant has increased. So this isn't a this week, but it's a pay attention that Pat Bryant might be coming for that job. The Indianapolis Colts, the number one seed in the AFC at five in one, on the 4-2 Los Angeles Chargers, Chargers,

one and a half point favorites at home. Over under 48.5. You like that. Yeah, this is a fun game. It does seem like it. It is pretty rare for a best record in the NFL and number one seed to be an underdog at all, but going to a 4-2 Chargers team. Certainly in week seven. Yeah, I mean,

week seven, you're established. The Colts are a good team, and they are underdogs here. Yeah, their offense has been. in a machine, number one in yards per play, number one in expected points per play. It's predicated on the best running back in the game right now, and Jonathan Taylor, the play action. Alec Pierce, I think, has an opportunity this week.

He would be my sneaky play because, you know, Adnan Mitchell's not going to get work. I believe Ashton Doolin is hurt. Is he? And I believe Josh Downs is going to miss. And so you've got Michael Pittman and then you've got Alec Pierce in a game that projects to have quite a bit of scoring. to me that is a spot start situation.

He played 81% of snaps last week, and that was with Josh Downs active. Yeah, Alex Pierce is, he's, he'll be a weekly every once in a while. You're like, hey, do I need to throw someone in? Just hope and pray. Yeah, to me that this is one of those weeks that might work out. The chargers are a good defense against the past,

but with Alec Pierce, it can be a couple plays. Right. So, you know, we talked about the Chargers, past heavy offense right now, ninth in offensive plays per game, third, and pass rate, which basically continues what they were doing last year over the back half. But there are, I mean, the questions are, I think, are fair. With Cuge back, or expected to be back, how do you feel then about Ladd-McConkie? I mean, he got it done in the absence.

I'm fine with Lade McConkey. I mean, even with Cuge, he had games of nine targets, seven targets. You didn't get a touchdown. You were a little disappointed. We talked about this during the first month of the season. When Keenan Allen looked like, oh, Keenan is making lad, you know, unplayable, it's really they're both of those guys are going to get, you know, seven or eight targets here and there.

And when they don't get the touchdown, you're going to be a little disappointed. But when they get the touchdown, you're going to be happy you played them. So these guys, I think all of them, especially because Quentin Johnson's just coming back from an injury, all three of these wide receivers are guys you can play, but you should look at your roster and see if you've got better options. The nice thing about playing them in this game, high over under, no weather problems, two good quarterbacks.

You could be in a shootout. And so those are the, when I'm looking at guys in the same tier, I'll tie break to wide receivers like this. So that's where I think Ladd should be in probably most lineups. We have them at 17 on the week. Keenan at 22 on the week. That's too, we got to move them down.

That's too high. For Lad? Yeah, or no, Keenan Allen. Yeah, I would much rather play Keenan. I'm sorry, Ladd over Keenan this week. Indianapolis defense, they're allowing the third highest scheduled, adjusted fantasy points to slot wide receivers. So

Ladd could cook. Lyd could keep cooking. Keep cooking. Tyler Warren is a smash player. Ronde Gadsden had eight targets last week. So he is also getting involved in the target pie, at least with Quentin Johnston. Yeah, that was the, I think, more of a product

of the huge injury. It's a desperate play. I think there's probably better desperation plays on the waiver wire. And then are we, Vidal? Let's talk Luscious Locks, okay? Vidal Sassoon. Vidal Sassoon, Kameenia Vidal running back breakout last week.

Let's say, I'm going to give you some names. We'll see, do you start them over that player? Okay. Do you start Vidal over Jordan Mason against the Philadelphia Eagles? I would not. Probably not. Travis E.T.N. against the Rams, tough rushing defense. I'm okay with that. Man, those London games can be stinkers. I'm okay with that.

Alvin Camara at Chicago. Matchup is good. I mean, the Colts run defense is pretty good. Yeah. Okay, here's a phone. Okay. Kenneth Walker. Yeah, I'll play Vidal over Walker. Yeah, I get it. will their head coach. Although McDonald's, head coach

McDonald of Seattle said, we got to figure out how to get the run game going. We're all, we're all trying to figure out why, like the worst graded runner who has one of the highest stuff rates and a terrible yards per carry, who's just getting

so many carries. We're trying to figure out why we can't get the run game going. It's, the whole world of Seattle's running game is pretty entertaining to me because you guys were the Charbonnet bros in the draft in the draft and so like any moons now leagues yes thank you Kyle league's highest rate of runs for zero or negative yards 32% belongs to Zach Sharbonate I just mean I feel like if there was a different scenario you'd be rooting

for him to get better as opposed to the change to happen of course yeah if Walker was injured we'd be like come on charms let's get it done yeah but Walker's there and so it's like hey It's just, sit down. Walker has his problem. I'm not saying Kenneth Walker is perfect by any means. But when the other guy is at that, 32% of his carries go for zero or negative yards, and he doesn't have the upside on a per touch basis that Kenneth Walker is, that's what I'm saying, it's weird.

The weirdest part is that Walker has his issues, but the issues with Walker have always been how often he takes zero yards or negative plays. Like that is Kenneth Walker's big problem. as he takes bad plays, but it's like the other guy's doing that too. Yeah. So they gave him 35% of the snaps last week and then came back and said they need to get the run game going? They're in control of all of it. Yeah, no, it was, it was very much the Andy Reed. Why didn't Jamal Jamal Charles touch the ball more? I don't know. We got to figure out how to get more touches. So call the plays. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's

going on in Seattle. I don't know if it's going to get better for Walker. It's infuriating. Daniel Jones playable in this one Oh for sure I mean the Jones bone nicks I would go Daniel Jones I want this game Okay you want yeah I do too Justin Herbert's my start of the week The bounce back I think it's coming

And I think this game could hit the over for sure I hope we get something like the Thursday night game Oh man That game was so fun Are these quarterbacks too young to give us that kind of a great performance Was that seven passing touchdowns? Yeah so That's crazy.

Bizarre me. Pretty, pretty nice. Washington, 3 and 3. We've talked about them this morning with the injuries. They take on a 2, 3, and 1 Dallas team. Seems like a really important game for both teams. Which we did just get a bit of news here that Trayvon Diggs suffered an accident at home last night and is in concussion protocol.

So just another guy missing from the Dallas deal. The concussions happening not in the game. That's the third one. what was the So we had the Colts Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah And then you had the Colts The Colts before the

Ward and then now you've got this one Stay safe out there By the way, we did get an update also that DeAndre Swiss groin injury Did not happen in practice Oh, I don't know if that's at home too Oh, I don't know Oh, I don't know

I don't know We will not speculate Commanders One and a half point road favorites Over under unbelievably 54.5 Rounded up. What?

Fantasy five! I mean, that is a wild. That's an insanely high line. Well, the Cowboys' offense has been amazing, and they get C.D. Lamb back. And the Cowboys' defense has been horrific. And, you know, Jaden Daniels is going to get hits. Horrificly awesome for us. Yeah.

No, it's been really good for fantasy. This is why I want to find a, I want to find a spot start on the Washington wide receiver core. Like, literally, like, just. Think about this. They're projected for 28 points. Right. Let's be conservative. Jaden throws for 220.

Okay. Where's it go? Where's it go? No Debo. If Debo doesn't play, if there's no McClure and no Debo, you're looking, Luke McCaffrey, Jalen Lane, Chris Moore. That is your wide receiver room. And social media, do not clip this.

Yeah, Zach Ertz is good for 16 of them. It's Zach Ertz. And, oh, you're getting clip. Yeah, no, I said he can't. He doesn't listen to us He's flying like a falcon I mean I can't believe

You have him Because I was just going to say I have George Kittle And all reports As of right now Are George Kittle is good He's gonna play He took off the appropriate amount of time

And he's going to go But Things happen You know So I had needed a backup plan And Zach Ertz is currently my backup plan. Well, check this out. I was just curious with that line of 54 and a half.

The total points in Cowboys games over the last five weeks, 77, 45, so you would have hit the under there, 80, 59 and 57. Oh, give me Cowboys games. Yeah, and so give Zachers 50 yards. I still think you take a shot with one of these other wide receivers. Just who? Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a roulette. Luke McCaffrey was one target.

I think it's Chris Moore. Probably Chris Moore. Chris Moore had 68% of the snaps last week, five targets and a touchdown. He's a vet. I mean, are you sitting Jaden Daniels down knowing that McLaren and Devo are gone? I don't think so. No, because he runs the ball and the defense won't be able to stop him. He's going to get, I mean, your point is accurate.

It's just identifying. He will get yardage. It's really hard to predict when you don't know these. guys very well, but I would put my chips on Chris Moore out of the wide receiver group. I'm happy to start Zach Ertz. And honestly, this should be a huge bounceback game

for... If it isn't, you should be worried. Yeah. Because if it isn't and he is not effective enough, he will be. They'll rotate other people back here. He will be. Yeah, he's going to dominate this week.

Play DAC, play Jaden, play Javante, play Bill. Do you play Pickens, play Ferguson? I was going to do we have Are you concerned about Ferguson? Do we have concerns about Jake Ferguson? Not really. Who I mean

29% targets per route run outrageously productive. He's been awesome. I mean, he's got to be a top three fantasy tight end, right? Yeah, he's at the number one guy right now. Are you concerned about it? I'm coming. I mean, the touchdowns have been a little overabundant. Yes. The last three weeks.

But he was still tight in four and tight in four and the two other C.D. Lamb West Weeks. So I guess we will say, don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm playing Jake Ferguson. Yes, you're right to. But with C.D. Lamb and George Pickens, then the pie will shrink for Ferguson. Okay. I think we've broken that one down. Anybody else want to talk about? Nope.

Javante's R. B.6 on the year. Yeah, it was a dud. Dac and Javante, you're starting for sure. Who would you start between Dac and Jaden Daniels? I'd play Dak. I'd play Dak. I'd play Dak. I mean, Jaden, it was nice, three touchdowns last week.

Yeah. Still doesn't have his weapons. I mean, Jaden's, Jaden is a trade four target still. And if he doesn't have a huge week this week, he's a trade four target because McLaren will be back. That's his number one, I mean, what, 12 touchdowns, 13 touchdowns last year? Yeah. He hasn't played.

Dack playing at an MVP level with two. Are we? Jason is so excited. I do. I can't. He's so excited. He didn't even want defensive points this week. He doesn't need them.

I wanted negative. Josh, I'm spotting you that point because I got that DAG CD steak. Oh, yeah. Also, Jake Ferguson in the first two games. Remember, DAC was there and Pickens were there. They were both healthy and ACD. You mean? Yeah, CD and Pickens were both in those games. He had a ton of work. He was on pace through those two games for 153 targets, 119 receptions, 858 yards. Yeah, week one, not great. Five for 23. Week two was 12. He still had six targets early though, right? No, that was week three. Oh, okay. Good, good, good, good. All right, Green Bay, three one and one, taking on the Cardinals.

Two and four. I hate them. I don't like them. I like them more with Jacoby. And I don't think Jacoby's better than Kyla by any stretch. I just like them more. You like a quarterback that can stand in the pocket, get ready to take a hit, and deliver the ball downfield.

Because that's the job of an NFL quarterback. Yeah, we went back and we did a, I mean, maybe this is helpful for people. This is not just spite or anger, appointment with our home team. Well, that's in there. But that's not what I'm speaking from in this moment. It was the furnace. I went and watched Kyler Murray film from years ago. We started 7 and O. Arizona did, right? Like 2022 or something. It's a slightly different Kyler right now. The biggest problem for Kyler, and this is what the film shows, is that he's a very, very top tier quarterback

without pressure. A thrower of the ball. Like he can make all the throws. But when there's pressure, he has turned into a, I'm not going to, he turns, yes. He turns into a player that doesn't want to take a hit. And there was a good film study video I was watching that showed like,

you know, and we know this, Matthew Stafford, he stands in there and he gets destroyed frequently. Oh, his body has paid the price. And Kyler, if he thinks he's going to get hit, he will not stand in and make the throw. so he can make the isolated amazing running play if you give him pocket time he can make I mean like he got out of the pocket and threw that deep balled Marvin Harrison he's just an annoying player at this point and he drops his eyes when he when he scrambles

he you know he's worried about being hit so hard that you watch jaden Daniels and when he's running around there or you watch Lamar I mean they're they never look at the ground they never look at they're taking in peripheral vision on on opponents and they are watching their wide receivers as they run away from defenders Kyler is like looking at his feet while he runs. Yeah, I don't know if it's a product of going through the injury that he went through or what, but I think he's always been a little soft. Green Bay 3-1-1, Arizona 2 and 4, Green Bay 7-point road favorites against Arizona over under 44.5.

More than likely, it'll be Jacoby Brissette, who was 27 of 44 for 320 and 2 last week. We have a lot to talk about in this game. I'm going to start all on the Cardinal side because first, Amar. R.D. Mercado has been ruled out of this game. That just happened. Bam Knight practiced in full on Thursday and Michael Carter. And so those two, Bam Knight, Michael Carter. And for the first time, I think I kind of prefer Bam Knight. That's fine.

In terms of, I think he'll get more opportunities. They're both nasty. It's not great. Packers' defense is good. But if I had to guess who would fall into the end zone, it would be Bam Knight. I prefer Michael Carter. And the reason is because I don't think this game is going to, going to go well for the Cardinals. The Packers have a good run defense so far on the

season. They're, you know, top three in schedule adjusted fantasy points. And so I think that if I look at who's going to be the past catching back, that's fine. Yeah. That seems to be Michael Carter. But honestly, I don't, I don't believe either one is a very good play. The Cardinals' wide receiver room is destroyed as well. Marvin Harrison, we're waiting on. He remains in concussion protocol. Yeah, Gannon said he's progressing. He's in the protocol. I think that there's a decent chance he's back out there at this point. Last I saw Thursday practice, he was still in, what is it, like the orange? He's in a yellow jersey.

Yeah, you have to. It's required. No, I know, but if he doesn't get a full practice today, it's got to be a full participation. And I'm just, I'd be surprised if that happens, but we'll see. I can't, we don't know. But I think based on the way that they're talking with the progressing through the protocol, I'm more encouraged than I would have been on some other players.

And if he plays, you just, you put. claim as you would. Zay Jones is going to miss. He had a lot of work last week for Arizona or most likely going to miss. He hasn't practiced. And then you're kind of like if Harrison and Zay Jones were out and there's a lot of wide receivers in this category this week, Michael Wilson is a

player you could put in there. Disgusting. Again, Jacoby threw for 320. If you take Harrison and Zay Jones out of the lineup, Shane McBride's going to eat, but it's going to be... I'd rather play Chris Moore. than Michael Wilson.

You're saying in the other game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're looking for that level of like someone's got to get the ball. Alec Pierce? Yeah, I would prefer that game. I prefer that game script than those quarterbacks. Yep, there you go. So the Cardinals.

Trey McBride is who I want. Yeah, the Cardinals are beat up and they are going to lose. Josh Jacobs, he's going to be great. You play him. Matthew Golden, the target share, has been rising, and he actually was pretty productive. his first top 20 fantasy finish last week with 86 yards receiving, a career high.

Romeo Dobbs 5 for 55. If I had them both, I'd play gold. I'm still Dobbs. Okay, that's fine. Tucker Kraft, what's the vibe on Tucker Kraft right now? It's been, you know, he had the breakout week, then he was banged up, played through it. Last week had a touchdown, but just two target.

Where are you with Tucker Kraft? Still playing him as a top five guy. And you like Jordan Love this week against the Cardinals? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean... Cardinals defense is not bad. The Cardinals' defense is not bad. They're also getting healthier.

Yeah, I mean, I could see this turning into... Because the Cardinals are so beat up, I do think this could... If the Cardinals are going to be in this game, it's going to be because of their defense, not their offense. In which case, it's going to be a low-scoring game, not a lot of fantasy goodness. If the Cardinals don't show up...

It's going to be Josh Jacobs. Exactly. So I worry a little bit about the Packers' passing game if it's not early. Will Johnson, the number one rated corner in football, he'll be matched up against one of these guys. Dobbs are golden. And then Max Melton coming back for the Cardinals as well. And he'll leave with injury again. Don't worry about it.

Who? Melton. I feel like he's one of those guys just every week. I'm like, oh, there goes Melton. Look at the, look at his name. You know what I mean? Oh. But it's the butter man.

Well, he's too soft. If Melton played Melton, that's family. Yeah. All right. We're taking a break. We'll talk some Sunday night football. A little breaking news. Okay.

I'm going to hit it. You said it. That was such a calm voice. Breaking news. Because it doesn't need the button. Ah, this needs the button because I think this is important. This is one of the big storylines going on. Chuba Hubbard, off the injury.

report will play. You and your Chuba Hubbard apologists. Get out of here. Get out of the way. Rico's here. I agree. RICO has been awesome, but this impacts. I want to know what the Panthers do. I want to see is it Rico 7030? Is it 50-50?

How smart is the coaching staff? I think I think this is a above average, not top coaching staff. Okay. I don't think that answered my question. But if they're smart, it will be RICO. So perspective, I know RICO has dead the breakout games.

It was also against Dallas and Miami. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. Before he was hurt, Chuba was 4.1 a carry. Rico was three a carry on all the touches of the year. Because of the RICO play style of get going, get going. Oh, it's not like he was doing all of his damage in the second half. Rico was awesome from touch one in those two games.

The Panthers have internally made a decision on who will start at running back and get the majority. of carries, but did not tell us. Oh, man. Oh, come on. Wait, is that can we, so I'm not telling. That is a little bit interesting in the fact that he said and get majority of carries. He could

have come out and said, these guys are going to split. I love both of them. Now it sounds a little bit more RICO-y. Yeah, I take that as RICO-y. Oh, man, just competitive advantage that they just secured by not saying it. But they didn't really, because I said

We're going to give them most of the work, so as soon as the first play is over. So you called them an above average, not great coaching staff? I think it's Rico because I think you're recovering from a calf injury. Yes, I agree. This week in particular, I think it's more Rico when you play him. But we're talking Sunday night. Atlanta, three and two, San Francisco, four and two. The Vegas line here, San Fran minus one and a half.

The over under is 47 and a half. Can I be honest with you? No. Yeah, I would prefer you. I want you to figure out. I want to take back my almost upset. I changed my mind. Okay.

Oh, okay. After work, I hesitated to say it. I could have just stuck in there. I don't know if you get me a reverse. No, I think that show's not over. You can't get me a reverse almost upset? No, I already. You don't have that capability.

I already bet it. You can't take it back. No, he's taking it. He took it back. You can't take it back? I need the drop. Yeah, can you do the drop in reverse is what he's saying. Can you do it in reverse for me?

You know, I don't want it to be informal. Yeah. I can get that for you. Thank you. And, you know, when you're playing chess. As long as you haven't taken your hand off the piece, the move is... No, we're still recording this show.

I don't feel... I changed my mind. You don't like the Giants. I don't have to hate it. Because I think the Broncos are going to beat the crap out of the giants. I changed my mind. Now, I feel bad that this is coming. Like, hopefully you didn't go out and bet it in between now.

But I got to just... There's only one man that did. There's a lot, yeah. Out, our producer. I'm changing my mind on that. He's a loyal soldier for the almost upset. He's in immediately. So, yeah, we've got, we've got, you got that drop for me.

You just hit it. Whenever you get it, you hit it, okay? All right. To make it. Now, what caused you to think about that? Was it this game? Yeah. Because, yeah.

Okay. Andy's almost upset of the week. Yeah, yeah, it was, Jason. How did, why did you have to, you had to poke and prod there? I mean, you knew it. That's exactly right. I was doubting it when we were breaking down the Bronco game. I kind of changed my mind on it a little bit, looking at the numbers.

And then we got here, and I was like, man, this is the one I actually believe in. So I'm going to go with the Falcons on this one, which would basically be an outright win because they're, you know, San Francisco minus one and a half. Overrunners 47 and a half in this one. Both teams fighting for positioning. The 49ers, we know how nice the schedule's been. They've done so much with so many injuries. Now you've got Bose out for the year.

You got Mac Jones getting it done. They did lose last week. Still competitive. There you go. And the Falcon's so impressive on Monday Night Football. This game is awesome. It is, dude, it's a prime time island. We all get to enjoy it.

Oh, one game. No distractions. Bejohn, Christian McCaffrey. Oh, man. Your two running backs. Oh, well, I mean, I wasn't talking about it for that. But fantasy football, this is. This is elite.

The two or two of the superstar running backs who swing matchups every single week on Sunday night. This is fabulous. Squaring off. Both of them on your team. Bejohn Robinson, number one in points per game. Christian McCaffrey, number two in points per game. And the return of George Kettle.

Boy, you got to be looking forward to this game more than anything on the year. Dude, I'm not even listening to what you guys are saying. We really need Michael Pinnis to keep playing the way he did. at home on Monday night when he goes to San Francisco here because that was pretty impressive. Is there any fear of a letdown? He threw it to his best player a bunch.

And I was he should. He should keep doing that. But Darnell Mooney limited on Wednesday and Thursday. We'll see if he plays. The games where Mooney is not there. That's where Drake London gets the Jamar Chase from last night

treatment where he's just like, I mean literally no other wide receivers caught a pass. in that game against the bills. He's on target for 180. Mooney changes that for Drake Lundit. It's, of course, not a bench or anything crazy with Drake Lundit. It's just a understanding that when they're both active, it hasn't been as great.

All right, we know that the Falcons defense has been legit this year. Number five against quarterbacks, two against running back, six against whiteouts, number one against the returning. tight-in, George Kittle. Don't care. And who's Jason's start of the week? So their defense has really been what I think will travel well. Michael Pennix has been bad on the road, but I think this will be a fun game.

Like you said, prime time, what, back-to-back primetime games for the Falcons? Yeah, yeah. That's pretty cool. But from a start-sit perspective, you're not worried about B. John and McCaffrey and Drake London. But you are asking yourself, can I start a wide receiver for the 49ers? Yeah, like Kendrick Bourne, wide receiver 7 and back-to-back weeks, 20 targets, 100 yards over both of those games. I saw there was a blurb that if Bourne hits 100 yards here, it will be the first three-game stretch of a wide receiver hitting 100 yards in like 30 years. For the 10th?

Oh, for the 49ers. Yeah. No, not in the NFL. But for the 49ers. Since Jerry Rice. At least, yeah, Rice. Well, that's wild. I'm surprised T.O. never did that.

What do you do then? Are you playing Kendrick Bourne? Are you staying in the... Here with a special Morrissey, name. Thank you. So sad. Thank you.

Sorry, Giants fans. I'm sorry. Now it's official. Now we have a technicality problem. Right, because you did the last... Did you just undo this one? No. No, no, no.

I told him, remember, I asked for the... Now you think I did? I don't know. I mean, that was the last one you'd have to hit that again and have to hit the drop again. If he hits that again, we have some in the field. Oh, come on. Here with a special moose, isn't.

Okay, now you have none. So now I have no almost upsets. Correct. Rules are rules. Okay, so now formally. Well, you don't have one. Oh! What?

What? Andy's almost upset of the week. I didn't see this coming. Oh man Wow This game I might want to take this one I'm just good

I'm excited for this one as well But if you're shooting your shot Is it Bourne Yeah It has to be Yeah Is he a must start to you? Who's the quarterback?

It's going to be Mac Is that for sure I think It's most likely Just what I've been reading It sounds like it's Mac It weirdly makes me feel A little bit more confident

in Bourne because obviously that's who's been in sync with. It's the George Kittle factor. Mack Jones loves to find the one guy. Apparently Mac Jones, he finds his one wide receiver or pass catching target

and he goes to them. Like if George Kittle comes in and he's like, oh, that guy's really, really good, maybe then Bourne is just a disappointment. But I think based off of what has happened, you still play him. If you need to. It's like a flex

decision. Okay. Tampa Bay 5 and 1, Detroit 4 and 2. Monday night double header, Mike, your favorite. Well, hey, this one's an attack on the, on East Coast ads. Because it's the back-to-back? Yeah. And I feel for him. I like it. I mean, I like it for me as a West Coast

ad. Yeah. Tampa Bay 5 and 1. But my brethren over there, I'm sorry. They're asleep. They can't, yeah. What's the second game? Houston, Seattle? Ah, you're fine. Just go to sleep. Just go to sleep. Tampa Bay, Detroit. Detroit's 4 and 2. They have the highest implied point total of the entire week. The game has a 52.5 point over under.

Delightful. Detroit minus 6. Their implied point total is 29.3. And yeah, this might not be the last time we see them play each other this year. Yeah, for sure. I mean, these two teams are awesome. Again, this is another, you know, division leader, conference leader, who is not favored in the game.

That's pretty crazy. But this is, I want this game even more than the Cowboys game. Not like I'm more excited for it because I got the CD deck stack. But Baker gets it done, man. And this is in a dome. The Detroit Lions are going to put up points. They're going to throw the ball a lot. There's going to be so much fantasy output in this game.

I can't fathom this one letting us down. Baker and Josh Ellen are tied for the second shortest odds to win the MVP. Mahomes is number one right now. those three are the only ones with a like that are even in contention right now um all right let's start on tampa bay side you talked about it baker's been getting it done we saw tess johnson get 72% of snaps last week after and that's you know abuka went down i think midgame basically with 40 something percent of the snaps he caught a big touchdown cameron johnson caught a big touchdown mike evans has been limited might return but abuka should miss godwin should miss

Shepard is there sorted out for the people out there that need I mean again this is what I'm saying there are so many games where you're filtering down to which is the right backup wide receiver to play in a game with a quarterback I like it's tough I mean Mike Evans is in your lineup I think you have as you'd play him

he's going to be the number one target here and should be a great fantasy play you've got Brian Branch suspended for this one their safety for the lions 31st against wide receivers right now And 26 against quarterback. So I think it's great. Then you go, okay, what's the next guy?

I had, you know, on the WaverWire show, I had been on the Tess Johnson side because I want that deep shot. I want that down the field target. That seemed like that was Tess Johnson. But now with Mike Evans, you know, ready to play, I wonder if the number two guy. Oh, it's Shepard. See, I was going to go Cameron Johnson. So, I mean, it's hard to figure this one out.

It will be Mike Evans and Sterling Shepard on the field, I believe. Oh, it will definitely. Yes. On the field, for sure. Snaps? Yes, but I don't get fantasy points for snaps. And Shepard, I'm just not sure. Well, it is step one. It is step one. I would agree with that. Last week, Shepard played 49% of snaps. Tess Johnson. Tess Johnson. Tess Johnson, Tess Johnson, Tess Johnson, Tess Johnson. Tess Johnson, could be wrong, but that's how I'm projecting it. I mean, why wasn't Shepard out there more last week then? don't have an answer. Yeah, his snap counts have gone down.

I think they've become more comfortable. If you want the counterpoint, in my opinion, I think they've become more comfortable with these younger guys than kind of the run-of-the-mill, PPR. Like, Shepard is not in consideration for me because I don't, there's no explosiveness to Stowing Shepard. He could catch six for 40. I mean, he can give you that game.

The counterpoint I would say to that is I don't, I would have to go back. Can't point a counterpoint. I wish I could let you talk. This is a, I can't let you talk. I'm sorry. counter-counter point? Thank you. I would have to go back and watch and see what truly happened.

Because last week, I'm looking at our site, Cameron Johnson, 49% of the snaps, Shepard, 49%, abuka, 53%. Yeah, before he went out. And, and Tess Johnson led with 72%. I'm saying like no one, it was clearly a weird game of trying to figure out what we're doing with our wide receivers. And now that you're game planning, I don't know, I just, I would, I would, I would, trust the veteran over... I'm going Tess. That's my final vote. I'll go Cam, and you can take Shepard

as the second guy, and we'll see who's right. But this, what it really means is you're probably not starting any of those guys. Yeah, it's like the nasty boys we've been talking about feel like Pierce, I'd rather go Alec Pierce than that Colts match. What if you had a roster

that was so good that you're playing Taz and you're playing Pierce and you're playing Chris Moore? Okay. How good would that feel. It would feel better this week than most weeks. Okay. Thank you. That's a good point. Rashad White. Oh, man. He's back on his BS. He's back on it. On his BS? Oh, yeah. Look at these numbers for Rashad White. The efficiency that we saw. The starter. Running back 7 and 11. Delightful. 14 for 41 on the ground. Four for 30 through the air. It's old school Rashad White. 17 for 65

on the ground. But the cool thing about old school Rashad White is he was the running back seven at the end of the year and the running back 24 at the end of last year. So if you're mad at the PPR scan that is Chris Olavé, this is a running back scan, but you just cash the check. Jared golf is Jason's start of the week at quarterback.

Gibbs and Montgomery can both be played in this game. Let's just talk about the, I mean, and obviously Alman Ra, Jameson, 6 for 66 in a touchdown, more volume last week, had the score. Jameson Williams are Keenan.

Jameson Williams. James and Williams. This game has too many points and it's difficult to run on the buccaneers and it's pretty easy to throw on them. So until I... Crystal Lave is traveling to Chicago. I'd play Olavee. Over Jameson Williams?

I would play Jameson Williams because of the weather in Chicago. Oh, that's a great point. Okay. I reversed that. I'd say the... I thought you were going to talk about Keenan more of... Until I see something from Keenan Allen, I'm not playing him. I mean, it's been...

It's been horrifically bad to pass. three weeks. LaPorte has been the tight-in four and back-to-back weeks. You can play him and then Kate Otton could be the biggest beneficiary. Yeah. In reality, you guys basically concluded you wouldn't play any of those three guys. Right. If you had a choice, Kate Otton, he normally takes advantage of opportunities.

I'm not expecting Mike Evans' first game back from a hamstring on a season in which he already, he was kind of you know, not doing standard Mike Evans stuff. You know, he's slowing down a little bit, I think. I don't expect him to come back. The targets were still there. I don't expect to come back and fully dominate.

By the way, he needs 78 a game here on out to hit 1,000. He can do it. I think they'll find a way to do it. Just a couple spike games here, there. These 200 yards in Week 18 when they're just trying to manufacture it. And just something to at least bring to people's attention per David Montgomery. We had a report, Jason, you were sharing with me a report of the team of the coaching staff saying, we need to even the carries back up between Jemir Gibbs and David Montgomery.

This is not a don't play Gibbs. It is just pay attention that perhaps Montgomery will be safer. And, you know, like he's been kind of, he's been volatile running back 36, 23, running back two, running back 62. So maybe we get back to a level where we're cool with Montgomery. I believe there's going to be 60 points scored in this game. Houston's 2 and 3 The Seahawks 4 and 2

The game's in Seattle Seattle minus 3 Overrunners 41 and a half I I disagree with Mike I think this is a great game I think Houston Seattle is a great game

If you had to choose between the two I'd watch the first one But this is Houston's been playing good football The offense has looked a lot better Seattle it's been fun with Darnold With JSN leading the NFL and receiving yards

out wide this year something people didn't see coming or didn't think that he could do and he's completely dominating that. I'm excited about this. You get to watch Nico Collins on a Monday net football game. We get to sort out and Mike gets to be yelling at the

TV. That's the best part of it. About Charbonnet and Ken Walker. If you're East Coast and you go to sleep for this game, you don't have to do the rage. Yeah, Mike will be raging. Oh, yeah. Because there's actually no way not to rage because if Walker does great, you're raging at what the mistakes they've made.

If he doesn't do great, you will continue to rage about what he could do. Get your anger out. The only scenario I think in which you can't rage is if Charbonnet dominates on the ground. I agree. You'll rage about how pissed he is that Charbonnet did good. Possibly.

No, I agree that that would be. Worst case scenario. Yeah, that's worst case scenario. Also, not possible. Not possible? No, it's not. This is my point. You guys love Charvvvine.

But now he's set up as the antithesis of your Walker. Yeah. So you can't, now you treat him, you treat him like Ramandre or worse. You hate Charbonnet. To be fair, that was like three years ago. What do you? When we like Charbonnet. Yeah.

You stopped loving him on his own merit, or did you stop loving him because of what he represented? No, those first few years watching him, I'd stopped loving it. He earned it. Okay. All right. I won't mention it again. He, his chance of getting a touchdown.

I thought you still secretly rooted for the guy that you liked. I guess you gave up. If Ken Walker leaves town, then I'll root for Charbonnet again. Charbonnet, great chance of scoring a touchdown. If you had both of them, who do you play? I don't know. Yeah, I got two quiet friends suddenly. Because it's impossible.

It was the season low in offensive snaps for Ken Walker last week. Charbonnet was also awful last week. I'm going to, I would I would play. Jacksonville's a great defense. I would play Kenneth Walker. Houston. Oh, last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would play Kenneth Walker simply because I'm almost, I'm almost

always going to take the opportunity side over the explosive side, but Charbonnet has been so inefficient that you're talking about a guy who, while he's getting this work, hasn't scored 12 fantasy points on the season. So I don't feel like I'm sacrificed a great game, and that's including the games he's had touchdowns,

whereas I could be sacrificing a blow-up game for walks. So then your Marks over Chubb. Woody Marks over Chubb is the exact same argument. I am Woody Marks over Chubb. And that's a scary one too. The running game in Houston's very scary because, like you said, Nick Chubb is going to get more work. Woody Marks needs to get passing game work to succeed.

So are they off your board in terms of starts? No, not off. And if you had to choose one, you'd both go marks? I would. The buy week bump, it's real. So that I would be banking on the history that that has brought us. So Mike doesn't want to watch the game, but his start of the week, C.J. Stroud's playing in it.

No, no, no. I'm watching the game. I'm just giving the dads on the East Coast. Permission. If you want to go to sleep for this, do it, man. We'll catch you up the next day. People probably slept through Thursday night football thinking that the old men were going to, you know, let us down. And we caught him up today.

Other players in this game that you care about, Christian Kirk, Cooper Cup. Kirk is a nasty boy. He is like he's in that the range of the Alec Pierce and guys that we've been talking about. Are we starting to at least like, is Jane Higgins going to get more and more work in this offense at some point? That's the hope after the buy week, but maybe they get him more involved. I'm not playing any of the other. I'm not playing Christian Kirk or Higgins here. just keeping an eye on them. Inj. Updates.

Oh, what about the, sorry, let me ask one more question. A.J. Barner for Seattle, tight-in. I'm not personally doing it. The Texans have a good defense. He's been very good so far this season. He's had some touchdowns, tight-in 10 on the season. This is a guy that we talked about like you could be a pivot if you've got an injured tight-end. He's late in the week, you know, an emergency option. But I think there's better. I think most people have a tight-in they would start over Barner. Debo Samuel said that we'll just have to see. asked about playing Sunday. The heel is aggravating for sure. Josh Downs won't play in week seven.

David Najoku ruled out for week seven as well. We got another segment. Fantasy face-off presented by prize picks. Well, our hot streak as a group really ended last week. It did. We had been on fire, I think, 11 of 12 picks the week before. it didn't go well no and i thought for a second i had some hope yesterday to not spin the wheel of shame because mike got how many correct one and how many did i get correct one yeah but how how many did you get wrong three and then i got two wrong yeah because you got the boot the right because i got the reboot shout out to prize bix yeah yeah took care of you and and then you guys that's a cool thing the prize picks does yeah yeah yeah you don't want to lose

because of that correct you just want to lose because they don't play kenneth walker idiots maybe stop betting on him dummy nah i will always stop leaning on kenneth walker to win stuff no that's a that's your problem i'm in you're not no kenneth walker's very talented will of shame all right i i it's me i guess i'll embrace it go ahead and spin it What a loser. Oh, man. What do we got here? The wheel is Iceman, Looney Tunes.

Jerry Jones. Oh, no. Weiner. Whoa. Oh, he's not a winner. But he is a weiner. Oh, look at that. Look at this.

He's trying to figure it out. Get it on. Stick that weiner up. It's the Glizzy King. Looking good, Andy. Looking real good. way funnier than I thought of it. Yeah, we should have brought some mustard to just continue that line down the face. I'm the wiener of the week. I leaned on Ramandre Stevenson.

I told you, okay, that's good. I told you I deserved it. Oh, we're a winner. Well, we get to reveal this week's picks starting at the quarterback position. What do you guys have? Well, I love my projection. It came a little bit earlier in the week to in that weather game. I have his projection. You cheat. code at this thing. 216 and a half passing yards. I'm taking less than that. If you go out of price picks, you will not find that right now. Not anymore. The weather has I got him before the weather was caught up. My quarterback's my green goblin, so I just have Jalen Hertz more than 0.5 passing touchdowns. He should be able to do that. I'm going with a fun

one. I'm going with Cameron Ward. Longest completion, 32 and a half yards. I am taking the less. Oh, okay. Maybe no Ridley. Well, and just the fact that he has would have missed that i think it's like five of six weeks not against the cardinals it is yeah there is that it's you jay it is yep yeah oh you went first for quarterback so we keep that order going i didn't yeah no i'm gonna go i'm the i'm the one that looks like the hot dog though yeah you're the you're the wiener i was the winner um i'm gonna go with zach charbonnet oh you're the winner with how many by the way Zach sharpening with half of them um Zach charon have have some dignity oh i

I've got dignity. You're going to love this for, Mike. Yes, yes, yes. It's the longest rush of 11.5 yards. Not going to happen. No way. You have done that before. I have. I'm going back to the well here.

No way, no how. No way. So a long Charbonnet run hurts in so many ways. Correct. So, but good news when he doesn't, I will feel happy. I'm taking less than 11 and a half on his longest rushing attempt. I actually have a fun one, too, at the running back position. I've been impressed with Jacksonville's run defense and their defense in general.

So, Kiron Williams, going up against Jacksonville, I'm taking less than 20.5 rushing yards on his first five attempts. Well, that's a fun one. So we'll be watching the London game eagerly. I also, I'm the reception man from here on out, but I also have Kairn Williams. Oh, really? Two and a half receptions. No puka? Oh, you're going.

I'm going to take the more. Yep. No, that makes sense. All right. Wide receiver here. This is my green goblin. Ladd McConkey with Q's getting back and I think a high over under in that game that I want pieces of. He's just got to have more than three and a half receptions.

That feels pretty easy. All right. I am going to go with, I'm going to go back to that Jacksonville, L.A. game. And I'm going to take Brian Thomas. I've been on the trade for Brian Thomas train all year long. They're going to get it going. They're figuring things out in this offense.

It seemed like it was going last week. Yeah. And that absolutely was. So I'm going to stay with that. I'm going to go more than 66 and a half of receiving you. Oh, I like that one. I'm going to stick with the aforementioned. JSN, this dude is, he's that dude.

Yeah, he is. It's at six and a half receptions. Easy peasy. I'm going more. Okay. And then we've got tight-in, Jason. Mr. 50% target share, let's go. Yeah, I almost took that exact same one.

Yeah, I was looking at that and it felt delicious. My tight end, I'm going with a lesser-known, not, you know, you're not starting Tommy Trimble out there in fantasy rosters. Gertavian Sanders is back, but he has, even in the games with Jatavian Sanders, he's involved. He gets plenty of yards. Tommy Tremble. He gets, I mean, there's a great matchup for tight ends. And his projections sitting there at 15 and a half yards.

Okay. He just got to get like, he could do that on one, maybe two reception. So I'm taking more than that. How many times does he? Almost ever. I think it's only one time this season he has. Really? Yeah.

Trimble? Yeah. All right. My Green Goblin this week I'll just lean in My favorite player of all time Miaoston Taylor Three and a half receptions

Okay There's nobody there I'm going with the more I'm taking Darren Waller To go less than 38 and a half Receiving yards in the weather game Yeah He might score

Because he scores every week It's gonna It'll be just a yards after catch What's the projection? How many? How many yards? 38 and a half You just

Yeah. No, I get it, but that would be terrifying. Terrifyingly fun to watch. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. That was Fantasy Faceoff presented by prize picks. Basketball season is here, so check out more max discounts on the app. Man, basketball season's here. Oh, dude. Let's go. Like Steph Curry only needing half a point to win on October 21st. I will take the more. Footballers to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.

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