Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 8 Studs & Duds + Blackout Week, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/27

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Oct 27, 2025. Week 8 fantasy football reactions! Which down performances are the most worrisome? Plus, injury updates, players to trade, and outlooks for the rest of the fantasy football season! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(07:05) Monday Punday(10:25) NFL News(18:40) Fantasy Studmuffins(18:45) QB Studs (23:35) RB Studs(33:30) WR Studs(39:25) TE Studs(40:35) Fantasy Duds(40:40) QB Duds(45:15) RB Duds(47:15) WR Duds(49:05) TE DudsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Monday, October 27th, a spooky week begins. And the fantasy footballers are back with you. Recapping a Sunday of football that had fewer close games. than any Sunday since 1970. It was disgusting. The football was gross.

Like it was funny because... The injuries were gross. On Sunday live, Mike, I tuned in. I watched you. Thank you for your viewership. It was a great, great show. He pirated it, but... But it was like, you know, you're talking...

I think you started saying, oh, we got some good football day, and you're like, well, I don't know if it's good. Yeah. But remember in May that you'd be really happy to have the... I'm not sure that's true, man. I feel like, I think you might of...

Who's your favorite player in the game of football right now? My favorite player... Recent. Yeah, it's Cam Scadaboo, man. I mean, I absolutely adore and love that guy. I think we all do. That destroyed my...

I mean, I think so many people's day. Yes, it did. It was awful. Just so devastating. What a brutal injury to... Not just a player. and not just a man, but a franchise that has hope and excitement

for the first time and forever. No, I kind of made the comment this morning. It's like Jackson Dart is in the Back to the Future photo and Malik neighbors faded away. And now, I mean, stay safe, Jackson. The disappointment and sadness that you saw in Jackson Darts face when it happened, I mean, emergency surgery for Cam Scataboo last night, I guess that might be overstating it.

I've seen some people use that language. He had surgery last night, which generally when you have this severe of an ankle dislocation with the other fractures and, I mean, risk of infection. That's the issue. I think classifying an emergency is not an understanding. If you get injured and you immediately go and get a surgery that day, that's a pretty... You couldn't go home, he couldn't travel back. This isn't one where, you know, sometimes even with a bad, bad injury, it's better.

to wait and let the swelling go down and then have the surge. This is not one of those situations. This was you've got to take care of it. So it's brutal. Hopefully there's no infection. We don't want to see an Alex Smith type of situation here. He's young. Yeah, that's helpful.

This is something he can come back from and we just. He's got that dog. Yes, he doesn't. I mean, honestly, even just the way, even just the way he responded and like, he's sitting on a cart with an air cast on an air cast on a on a you know awfully broken leg and he's rallying his troops and give it like i would have been passed out oh yeah oh i don't think passed out is enough for me it would i would have looked down saw that and i would have ascended yeah so i'm done i'm done with this world open dislocation is the uh is the language there

which tremendous risks associated with it. So hopefully the surgery went well and he's doing, you know, beginning the recovery. Because so we've established that one of your favorite players in the game got knocked out for the entire season, ruining everybody's mood because he just brings energy and fun to the game. And then, you know, how to go in the fantasy world? Well, I mean, I have Jonathan Taylor.

Yeah. Oh, so you won. That's an automatic win. I mean, it's pretty good. Auto dub. Well, auto dub, you know, well, I put up a ton of points. That's good. I automatically scored a lot.

Yeah. But no, I like last week when I lost by 0.3 fantasy points. This week I lost by two fantasy points. And that's, I'm tired of that, man. I mean, if I score three more points in the last two weeks, my season's looking very different. And it came down to, like you had a slow death on Monday night last week. Yeah. Oh, brutal.

And then last night you had Josh Jacobs, who. you know, it looked like you might be doomed. There was a lot of Emmanuel Wilson. They basically split carries, but all of a sudden, Josh Jacobs shows up and he... I needed about 15 points. When he got the touchdown, he was two points away. And I'm like, that's probably...

And that was like early third. Yeah, early third quarter. So it was like, okay, cool. I am going to get there. And then he didn't... The Packers, like every team, or I guess like half the teams this weekend, they got up big and it wasn't a close game. And so it was kind of gross football at the end.

They didn't need to push the issue. Now, I don't believe Josh Jacobs was listed on the injury report, even though he was dealing with the calf last week and was spelled a lot this week. But it seems like they were spelling him because they didn't need him. When they needed him, you remember going, you know, I think going into the third to start, they were down. I do not call. He was, he was listed, or sorry, he was limited in practice this week with a calf injury.

So maybe he got taken off the practice report, but there were still, obviously, I think it's very clear they were managing snaps. I mean, that's, we've got the resident Packer fan of the universe back here in Duster Sally. Is that the impression you got too? Yeah, definitely. It seems like he's still trying to heal up. And once they got ahead, you knew

it was over. End of third, it would have been Packers 14, Pittsburgh 19? It was the time. His touchdown was the one that put them ahead. Jacobs' touchdown was the one that put them ahead. So, you know, after that point, you know they had uh jordan love was cooking i mean he completed 20 straight passes at some point in

that game so yeah two carries in the second half one of them was for the touchdown sheesh so um yeah so you just enough to get your hopes up yeah that's true that's so disappointed i want the swift execution i just slowly hacked apart no i don't want to die by a thousand cuts just chop it off man take this head just take it it's yours well so that it's peace there you go we have uh we have a big week to respond to we have

your reactions on monday punday then we'll get into studs and duds but uh well let's begin there and it was good last night we'll start with the good craft it was craft yak and cheese baby man oh bris hallelujah

oh ronde god mode it's got that code and we saw some R.J. Narlie. Finally. Oh, hey, it's Troy Franklinstein. Ooh, Halloween edition. Yaelin Waddle. And Runnathan Taylor.

Uh, how about Bohemian Rhapsody? Okay. Bo Nix doing it every week. Flames Cook. And Kamani Vidal. Yes, yes. But they're not all good. No.

Emeka. Igbuka. Yeah. Or as Brank would say, Igmeca, a big boo. uh turd ferguson bj robin stunk christian macfrey or christian crafrey crap free isn't that what i said i thought you said yeah you didn't say right well how about

macfair okay faker mayfield yeah kade rotten huge mistake yeah or if we got rico doubt all off start him again uh courtlin struggling jordan meows Oh, and then Camp Sketa, you. More like Cam Skata, ow. Yeah. So sad. So disappointing. That's just the worst, man.

I mean, so this year, every year, you know, you got your guys you like watching, the guys that you really enjoy. I don't remember any year where any one of us felt so in love with a player. And yet this year, Andy, you have, there's two of them. You have fallen in love with the Mecca-Egbuka the way that I haven't seen you do. We always like a player. And that's how I feel about Camp Scataboo is just like I was playing against him. This will show you how I was playing against him in our matchup. And he scored a touchdown.

And that is a guaranteed I'm unhappy for every other player. And I was thrilled, man. I was like, he's that dog score on me. Make it hurt. So yeah. It's a, it was just. Well, you have. I mean, it's just the nature of the game, but like when Malik neighbors and Scataboo aren't playing football, when Joe Burroughs not playing football, you want your stars out there, but it's it's part of the game.

We don't need Joe Burrow anymore, guys. 19 more targets. We do not need Joe Burrow. I believe in the last three games. Did they win? The Joe, who cares? The last three games, the Joe Flacko games. It is the greatest amount of targets in a three game stretch since targets.

we're tracked. That is, I mean, that is how Jamar Chase is, it is drop back. I'm doing the math right now. Do you want to know what the target base is? I do. You said it's three, in three games, he has 54 targets with Joe Flacco. So, 17, three into 17 times 54, 308. Some pays for 308 targets. Yes, baby. Yeah. That is, that is absurd. Eight targets with Joe Flacco. That's what he would have. That's insane. You're going to kill him.

Dude, wide receivers want to be killed with targets. Yeah. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. Free agent Tyler Lockett expected to sign with the hapless Raiders. He's going back to his buddy. Gino Smith.

Yeah. Mike Florio reports the Ravens could face significant punishment for their handling of Lamar Jackson's injury status ahead of the week eight game with the Bears. It was so weird. Significant punishment. So like basically trying to persuade the opposition that he was going to play, only knowing that he wasn't going to play. I don't know that thing. Therefore you plan for Lamar and you get Snoop. I mean, how is that a rug pull?

I would love to be rug pulled like that. Yeah. I think. We are playing our backup. The fact that, you know, we always talk about over-unders on this show because it helps for fantasy football. And it was like when we were at, when we talked about the Ravens game, it wasn't it a 50, it was a 50-5. It was a 50-pointer, which is, that's delightful. That's everyone starts for fantasy football.

And it was like that through into Saturday, I think it was. And then all the sudden, oh, hey, guess what? Lamar is not going to play. And then that thing plummets to 44. I mean, it, I know the NFL doesn't. care necessarily about that, but there's a whole bunch of, there's an whole ecosystem that relies on the reports. I just don't understand.

I got a quote from him. It really is an honest mistake, Harbaugh said. I can tell you this, nobody's trying to hide anything. There's no advantage to be gained with that. Oh, I don't. Oh, Aaron Glenn would disagree, says last week. I don't feel like they did.

That was just enough to get him the win. They didn't do anything wrong. Like, we kind of expected Lamar to play, but he was limited all week. and then when he had the full participant came out he was the full participant as a, I guess the only thing that is the issue. The only thing was

they changed after that to a limited participant. He was listed as a full participant in the Friday practice and then it came out afterwards that he was running the scout team so they had to change it to a limited participant but it's like it wasn't like there was ever a guarantee

that Lamar was playing this whole week. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, it's um, he'll be They'll be back this week. Thank goodness. Well, and they got the win. Yep, they did. That's a humongous win. Yeah, it was a season saving win, potentially.

So we had, we got Monday night football update, Terry McLaur and Debo, Samuel, both playing. Cream Hunt will play for the Chiefs. That just stinks. Well, like Pacheco and Breschard Smith seemed like, hey, I was, I was excited to play Pacheco, and Breschard Smith was a dart throw. Now with Cream Hunt there, with three guys, it's just three darts too many. That is the rule we have heard Too many much I think that Pacheco is still fine

Cam Scataboo we talked about the injury Saquan left in the third quarter with the groin injury They said it's not believed to be serious Another report said he wanted to He would have come back in if it was a closer game I will go ahead I will say that even if he is totally healthy And they're going on by

There was what appeared to be Definitive evidence of who the backup would be Yeah and should be rostered even if he's healthy and it was tank big we're back baby tank looked awesome I was just getting into Andy do you know his stat line I do not know his stat line I watched a couple of his runs and he looked great nine carries for 104 rushing yards that's a good yards carry that's that's like remandre level

it's a uh an 11.6 yeah no it's uh it's a big deal it'll be part of tomorrow's show no question quenchon jedkins they'll be that'll be part of tomorrow's show too he left with the shoulder injury did not return both of those teams are heading into the by week so it'll be a difficult part of the discussion Marvin Mims is in concussion protocol

and he was one of the few Broncos that didn't go wild well him and Cortland Sutton Cortland Sutton with a bajillion end zone targets including a catch in the end zone that was called back including a catch including a drop yeah I mean it was

Franklin Stein and R. J. Narlie. Luther Burden left with a concussion for the bears. And that was today's news and notes. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions.

Before we get into the studs, I'm just going to say they did know something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. They really, really knew something. We weren't completely push it backwards. Like, what do they know about Houston versus San Francisco? 100% this wasn't they're wrong this was not us saying like that's a wild line they're clearly wrong go bet the other side this was like if I were to bet a side I would have bet the side that there's outlandish like they know something and they did well and I do know that like 70% of the bets had been on San Francisco but they were still Houston was still favored and that game played out pretty much like the best team in the league playing the worst team in the league like every snap of every Houston it was a beat down yeah It was like a bully going in there and just holding your face in the water. I think when the game was almost to the half, San Francisco had like 30 yards and no first downs and had barely touched the ball.

It was wild because San Francisco's been beating everybody. Matt, the Falcon is celebrating that the potential quarterback controversy is over. Yeah. Were people actually worried about that? No, I don't think so. Yeah, so San Francisco had the ball for five minutes of 29 seconds. in the first half. Lowest time of possession by any team in a first half

in 15 years. Yeah. I mean, the fact, how did they know? That's the question I, yeah. How did they know? I mean, Demiq O'Ryan's defense knows what's going on. Perfect matchup. But to have Christian McCaffrey listed in the bust section is well, you, you lost this week, right? I did. Because you had the bejeon and Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, just classy bums. Two of the poopiest pants of the week. I am really, really sad that that happened. I know. I got it out of the way. A couple years ago, I was telling, like, I had a dynasty team that looked like I was, you know, I was definitely on the way to the championship, a super team. I'm in the playoffs. And I had, this was when Bruce Hall was great.

Oh, like, like yesterday. Go on. Yes. And Bejohn. And so I had those two guys as my primary backs. They combined in the semi-final week of the playoffs to get less than five points. Yeah. And then the championship week that I was not a part of, thanks. They went nuclear. And so that's my hope for Mike in League of Record is that they have one of those down weeks together. Oh, no, they had it. It's done. We can't do it again. This is the thing that's infuriating.

There's rules. Like everybody, when you have a podcast and you talk fantasy football and you play fantasy football, I mean, I know people that have quit the game of fantasy football exclusively because they look at it as this, you know, it's like this player averages 19.2 points per game and they should score 19.2 every week that they go out there. And it's like something like that can. happen in the playoffs. And there's nothing you can do about it. That is not, that's not, Mike did not make a strategic error in

starting McCaffrey and Bijan. Like playing Bijan against a man, Miami Dolphins team that were allowing 130 rushing yards per game. Oh, you're at home? At home. And I, I am getting shamed this week because I trusted that Bejohn would run for some yards.

I mean, it's like, that game is another example of, that game was ridiculous. Like sometimes you just do what you can do and then you lose. This week was This week was not You know Sometimes we're like

Oh that week was drunk Yeah This week was blacked out Yeah This week This week will not remember this week They will absolutely They're going into next week

And they're going to think they They're like it's week eight Yeah No it's week nine dude What? Yeah There you go We'll take a break

We'll get into Studs This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's Oh man, he ended up at number one? Yeah, he did. Yes, I needed this so bad. Jordan Love! Yeah. Oh, the people are happy with you, Andy.

You remember that I sent a bouquet to Tucker crap. I mean, do you remember when I did drugs on Thursday? and thought that like Mason would be good like that. You guys don't understand like we, in the beginning of this show, we cared so, so, so much about our own fantasy teams and we still do. But if we say something on here

and it goes as sideways as Jordan Mason went on Thursday, you guys know this. You listen to me on Thursday. I was low. We feel legit bad. Yeah, and then the therapist is on the phone. And it's, I mean, that was just a I just needed this to work out for Jordan Love.

He had only had one good game all year. Yeah. I picked this game as my start of the week and then, you know, I was nervous, but he ended up at number one, hallelujah. Tucker Kraft is healthy. Tucker Kraft is a dog, but we've got to talk about that during the tight end. All right, all right, all right. Jordan Love number one on the week, another dog, Drake May.

It was a slow start to this game. I thought I had some hope facing him in a league. Miles Garrett was destroying him, sacked him five times. The defense looked great. and that slow start at one point I was like okay so Drake May is really going to struggle and he's the number two quarterback on the week yeah he played outstanding I mean Kachan booty is a legit threat all the time he's got multiple tight ends he uses it was awesome I mean Drake May is like they're a legitimate contender yeah like I think I think there was a point when they had a nice record I was like well that's nice but when do you start taking them seriously well Mike Vrable and Drake May and this team It's awesome. Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert, Joe Flacco, rounding out the top five. Joe Flacco. He did.

He so quick. Didn't he go to the locker room in this game? He did. He came back. What was funny is it was like three touchdowns in the blink of an eye and then disappeared. He did, but he still got you all those touchdowns. And an irrational, unbelievably high belief in Joe Flacco that this is just going to keep happening. Well, it might, and they are, they're kind of the Dallas Cowboys situation.

situation where... Well, they were the original. Yeah. The Bengals, like, we called the Cowboys the NFC Bengals, and then they fell apart when Burrow was gone, and it looked... The fact that it is Joe Flacco, they trade for Joe Flacco, and somehow this team is back. Like, Chase Brown is, Chase Brown is back. Yeah, he is a, you, because you can't just say, okay, well, we'll stop, we'll stop the run

game, no problem, and then we'll worry about the wide receivers. Joe Flacco in this office, they are cooking. I know they lost, and it was, it was the, the post game, and that's a pretty devastating loss for it is. Oh, it's, it's horrifically bad for the hope of, like if you're a Bengals fan, you're like, hey, we're going to hold out, just squeak in, get Joe Burrow back right at the end. Really good results for the Ravens this week. Yes, the post game interview with Justin Fields was.

I was hoping you'd bring it up, dude. Well, I mean, like, he, the look, number one, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, super happy that Fields. Fields actually played very, very well. It was the Bengals defense. So it was it was they, you know, they're hey, the Jets, you know, we're back, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. You're like, it was still, you know, you played the Bengals defense. They can make people look real good. Yeah, and that's what, I mean, that's what the dude needed. He did. I mean, the Justin Fields post-game interview, like, he needed a personal

win. Like, you get, you get away from the reality of these human beings sometimes and, like, that, that interview with Justin Fields was so vulnerable and, like, you know, how low he had been. And the fact that he's going to get benched. The fact that he came, yeah, it was to Rod Taylor when he's called upon is always hurt. I think Taylor would have started if he weren't hurt. So for, for the man, for Justin Fields, for them to get that off the, you know, to get off the Schneide, get the W. And to do it in a way, you know, you had to come back. You had to fight. And, um, We'll talk about Breast Hall, who was awesome. So was C.J. Stroud, 318 and 2 against San Francisco at home. He looked good and he didn't have his top two. Yeah, so if you don't have Gary Wilson and you don't have Nico Collins, you can finally, you know, play good quarterback. That's how wacky this weekend was. Or Tua, who threw for four touchdowns.

Not just on the road against the number one against fantasy quarterback team that had not given up 200 passing yards this year. And then it's like, oh, dude, he destroyed you. This week was just crazy. No, I mean, that, that game in and of itself was like, nobody can predict that. Nobody. So just casting a die and hoping it, you know, it ends up on whatever. Running back stars, this guy.

Oh, man. It feels like Jonathan Taylor gets six or seven quarters a game, the amount of like, I feel like it gets three quarters of game. He never gets a fourth. He gets you six quarters of production in three quarters. The amount of like opportunities that he gets, the big plays, he had the 80-yard run. Jonathan Taylor, number one again. I mean, he's had 30 plus points in like five of eight weeks.

Five of eight weeks. The majority of his games have been over 30 points. That is absolutely wild. He's doing more than what we saw Saquan do last year. I was he said, do you know how many touching on Saquan had less here on the ground? Was it like 12? I think it was 15. Yeah.

You know how many Jonathan Taylor has right now? It's got to be like 25. 14. Oh, no, like his pace, yeah. Yeah, 14 touchdowns. I mean, we were talking about MVP Saquan last year. John the Taylor is just looking good. And they, and it's crazy because sometimes it's stats and sometimes it's film. And this one is obviously both. But when you watch, every play feels like he is the fastest man alive, the strongest man to ever exist. And unstop. He only had 12 carries yesterday.

You can't have a bunch of carries when you break them off for touchdowns. Oh, that's a good point. Your drive is over. You don't get to get to 25 carries. So you lost with 32 and 36 from Jonathan Taylor the last two weeks? Yeah, both of them now. Sorry. Hey, JT.

I'm sorry. I have let you know. And what's your combined tight-in points for last two weeks? Let me see. It's 4.6. It's 3.6. Oh, three points. But thank you.

Now, does it count that I put Kate Otton in as a flex? Because he scored more. Oh, you did put him in as a flight? Oh, yeah. Why did you do that? National tight-in week, baby. Who did you play him over? And did it cost you the win?

No, it was actually, genuinely, not a joke. I actually thought he was going to be your starting tight end. I didn't realize you were going to put Hawkinson. No, he was. No, I got him to play him over him. But I had two guys in the IR, and I couldn't make the move. Without cutting something? Without cutting.

I basically had to cut. You should have cut Hawkinson. Two people in order to make the swap from Hawkinson to Otten. It wasn't worth it enough to me. He cut four guys. But it should have been enough because that was the difference. It was like three more points. I would have won.

Sorry to rehash that. James Cook, that worked. 216 yards James Cook doing his thing. Yeah, I mean, he was awesome. Breece Hall was awesome as well. What, three touchdowns for Reese Hall? Yeah, in a passing touchdown. Yeah, I guess two rushing and a passing.

It was a heck of a game for him. And he had comments after the game where he said he went to the coaches and was like, basically, if Garrett's not here, I need 20 to 25 touches. He said, if we're going to lose, we got to go down on me. We got to go down swinging. And it was a smart decision because he is your by far best player. He looked so. Do you just hear yourself? No.

Okay. Well, no, no, what I said. No, no, no, not you. Moving on. Okay. Oh, I can't wait to go back and look at that tape. Andy is very embarrassed right now. I imagine there were big eyes from Mike.

I was at one point. Just keep talking. Go on. Gosh, you were saying stuff about players. You're saying something so smart, Jake. I love that Jason Thighy said something. Of course. That's where his mind is.

Breece Hall has all season this year looked like the old Bruce Hall fast explosive. He doesn't always get the opportunity to get the ball in space. You don't have a great offensive line You don't have a great offense So it hasn't been wonderful every single week of the year I still I am hoping more and more

And we've got about a week and a half For this to happen I really want Bruce Hall moved I really want him traded Because he is awesome And if you put him on a better team Like I have got Jonathan Taylor And I've been hoping that

He hits the free agent market And can go sign on a good team Instead it turns out the Colts Brought a good team to him Because the human being in the right situation would be a top three back. It's always really hard to think about him. Like the teams that would want him are contenders.

How do you give that guy the work that he gets in New York? And can you have that kind of success? I think you can have more success on a great offense. I would rather him have 15 touches for a great team than 25 touches for the Jets. I mean, I guess there's two teams. Like the Chargers and Chiefs would be two, right? Yeah. I don't.

Bears. yeah i mean that would get messy but yeah but i don't think they're trading at four and three for him i don't know no no i'm just i was trying to think of a team you could actually go to teams at the top of the divisions it's like i think that those are i mean chiefs and chargers i can see the path for him basically like if amari and hampton's injury is more severe and they're like they know behind the scenes he's probably not coming back that one would work out for sure uh Washington yeah the commanders Washington would work too

that would be lovely I guess that's a good point I guess there's some homes did we mention Seekoine Berkeley's huge game we were about to okay I just wanted I didn't want to sayquan Berkeley had a huge game because it was it was awesome we've been waiting you know so many weekly discussions of Barclay has not broken a big play yet and we got two of them yesterday 14 for 150 and a score four for 24 and a score through the air probably a convenient buy week too

oh very much with the with the yeah yep with the groin injury Chase Brown 12 or 73 and 1 your start of the week Mike who he looked good and I know it was the the Jets Chase Brown looked good and you know who else

looked really good Samajey P. Rine yeah he is working in nine for 94 and it touched it I don't know what maybe it was just the uniforms against the grass against that defense but like P-Rine looked

Peter Ryan looked fast. He did have some, he had some moves out there. I have a huge question about this next player. Yeah. And the question is, do you trade this? Trade away or trade four? Trade away. Yeah.

RJ Harvey, seven for 46 and two, just seven opportunities and then caught one pass in the game for a touchdown. Very, very, very, like, Dobbins was great. Dobbins was 15 for 11. It's not, it's like it was big plays. When I see a breakout coming for a rookie, which this was, you know, a lot of people are saying this was the RJ Harvey breakout game. Obviously for fantasy football, a monstrous, productive game that if you had him in your lineup, you thought you were going to lose because you had RJ Harvey in your starting lineup. And you probably won because he was awesome, unless your team is as bad as Jeremy's, in which case you can start him and lose. But the breakout can't come via fantasy points and touchdowns against a bad defense.

The breakout has to come via opportunity for me to really buy in. This was no change in his opportunity. He played 27% of the snaps. This was still J.K. Dobbins's team, and he didn't get more opportunity. It was just he played against the Dallas Cowboys, which, my goodness. Which we knew. How many times on Sunday, I say, my favorite thing in the NFL is the Dallas Cowboys defense? They can't, they literally can't stop anyone from doing anything they want to do on any play.

It is delightful. Yeah, I mean, we said start of the week, basically, all the players on Denver. Yeah, 30% of the rushing are of the running back attempts and only eight total opportunities. I'm just saying, like, strategically speaking, this is your opportunity to trade RJ Harvey for something very, very good potentially. Maybe. People love a good rookie. You have to get something good because I agree that I'm not going to call this the true breakout game because of the. work, but this is the type of game that can earn you more work. You probably were not relying

on RJ Harvey as a starter, so you might be able to go and get someone on buy or someone injured. Or cross-positionally. Yeah. I don't know if, if, I mean... I mean, would you trade him right now for Breece Hall? Oh, yeah. If I could get Breece Hall, of course. Would you trade him for that won't work? Yes, of course. Would you trade him for Derek Henry? Yes, of course. I don't think you'll... I can go down it to you. Get any of those. But Quinchon Judkins, who's injured and going on to buy, maybe the... that team needs a starter. You need a starter and you could...

That's what you have to do. You have to find a very specific circumstance. You won't be able to just get whatever player you want. We should shine a light on how good Devon A-chan has been. Dude. He's been the RB 17 or better every week of the year. No other running back can say that now that McCaffrey and Bijon took the week off. Yeah. He's been awesome. Yeah, I mean, he has been cooking.

Javante got it done. Tage Spears was so close to a. a two touchdown game. Javante cannot keep getting these goal line touchdowns. Oh, oh, I see. They are devastating. This is a C.D. Lamb. This is a C.D. Lamb.

You grunted because, I mean, if you have Javante, you were happy. Oh, of course. Yeah. It was very good. You just needed like a couple more points from your guys. Was C.D. dragged down at the one? The two. He was dragged down at the two.

And then, um, oh, come on, man. You're not going to. It's more of a. Oh, good point. That's fair. Come on. That's fair. yeah and then deck did get the

the comical quarterback sneak from the one yard line where he did like the alligator roll oh yeah he fell over yes he goes to quarterback sneak he kind of falls over to his right just rolls that was so funny I did not see that oh man it's

it's a dumb throwaway player where he's tried to QB sneak does not get in but somehow he just rolls over it was just another couple inches I could have won my week on uh Troy Franklin was the number one wide receiver on the week because Dallas I mean, Dallas is handing out

candy for Halloween. I mean, it's wild. And Franklin, I mean, this offense is capable of these performances from certain players because it's such a good offense. Mims has a week. Franklin has a week. Harvey has a week.

Sometimes it's at the same time if you're playing Dallas. So what I like seeing was Pat Bryant. Let's get that guy going. He had a week. Yeah. I mean, dude, Dallas is so. And it's like, and they got, they, they got destroyed. One of Troy Franklin, Troy Franklin's touchdown in the back of the end zone.

He's just standing. It's like, I could have caught that touchdown. There was no defender. It's like, that was sucks. Michael Pittman, number two on the week, Jalen Waddle. Michael Pittman deserves some conversation, man. This is wild. He has, but.

Yeah, the city is back. It was not something you couldn't see coming. If you take out the Anthony Richardson games, And you look back the last three years, he's been good, the vast majority of times, definitely a top 24 wide receiver. And he has continued, you know, being the number one wide receiver. It's like Alec Pierce down the field. Josh Downs has had some good games.

But you've got a guy here that's, you know, he is the number one target and also that touchdown from Pittman. This is the first touchdown I've ever seen caught with a bicep of biceps. Yes. I've never seen someone catch a ball. It helps when you have... With your biceps people. You have tied your career high in touchdown receptions.

At this point already. The offense is cruising. I mean, that was one of the questions around Pittman to start the year. It was like, nobody saw this offensive explosion coming. And it was like, can you score enough? Well, Taylor can and Pittman can and Daniel Jones can. And this offense is just that good. So Michael Pittman is quietly the number seven.

seven wide receiver on the season in total fantasy points. So he was the right pick on that offense at the wide receiver position. And Warren is there getting it done too. Jalen Waddle, 18.4, bounced back. I was, you know, people were wanting to like cut Jailen Waddle last week. Oh. That seemed dumb. Yeah, that's silly.

I mean, you've got four games without Tyreek, and he has been great in three of them. Yeah, he's just, he is a player that, oh, Waddle's up on the jersey board. there he's the type of player where it's it always feels fragile where you get a couple good games and then the minute like last week you have the bad game you're like okay well that was a fun run but it's going to be more sustainable here 19 targets for jimar chase 12 for 91 on those didn't score this week oh home not efficient but 19 targets calil Shakir had his second breakaway random touchdown game of the year which that'll help I mean, he had a monstrous, like, screen touchdown.

Yeah, he'll have two, maybe three of those a season. How about Roman Wilson, four for 74 in a touchdown? I remember him. I really liked him as a prospect. Me too. They could use him to be good. Yeah, this was... They could use D.K. Mackett can have to be better.

D.K. Metcalfe feels like he is... Five for 55. He's, like, required to have 50 to 60 yards a week. Like, he scored. And it's to score. So, good fantasy week, but it's like... Did you play him or Zay? Oh, I would.

When the Lamar was out, then D.K. Metcalfe went in. But Jay Flowers had more yards than D.K. Metcalfe. Do I really want to bring this news up? What is the news? It's real. I don't know if it's worth bringing up. Now you have to. Well, now I wonder. What's the news?

It was just that Green Bay Packers' first round wide receiver, Matthew Golden deactivated his Instagram account after the game yesterday. Oh, no. Yeah, get off the socials. Did you see how open he was? on that one? Yes. Oh my gosh. I did. I mean, I saw it when they were just snapping the ball. I saw him coming across the middle. I go, this is going to be a fourth touchdown for love. I was

very much wanting love to keep piling him up. He got missed on that one, but took him, uh, took him eight weeks, huh? Yeah, I mean, eight weeks and we already had to shut down the socials. Do we, we do that for targets? I don't know. Maybe he's, he only got three targets. Maybe he was there's some speculation that a lot of, he's getting a lot of pushback from fantasy manager. That's what I was going to say. I bet he's getting a lot of crap, which is, that's disgusting. Hey, so I don't know if we've said it this year, never tag a player, unless it's something nice. Unless it's something nice. Sure. Don't. Never tag a player or something negative about your fantasy team. They don't care. They're trying. No, I mean, and Kittal kind of summed it up in the kind, the most kindhearted way last week, which was like, yeah, sorry to my fantasy coaches. Yeah. He's like, but look, they won the ball game. Blame Shanahan. Don't do that people. Yeah. Be better. Kishon Booty, five targets. Three for 75 and one. He has.

He's been good, man. They're big plays, and we talked about Drake May down the field. Dude, Drake, May, a deep ball from Drake May is, it's incredible. And it's matched up perfectly right now with booty. Yeah. Roma Dunes 8, Jason's start of the week, got it done, 7 for 114. Tett McMillan, 7 for 99. Yeah.

I had my Xavier regrets this week. And what about D.K.? Second week in a row, eight targets for... You're not talking about Metcalf. No, no, no. The Titans, D.K. Is it Chimier? Nobody knows.

Chimier, DK. Last week had the big touchdown, but this week, seven for 93. Something to pay attention to. He was drafted ahead of Iommanner. Keep that in mind. Tight-ins, Tucker Kraft, Dallas Goddard, got into the end zone again. Twice. Arronday Gadsden.

Did you know his national tight-ins week? I did know that. I was told many, many times. How many times it was brought up. Harold Fanon got into the end zone. George Kittle got into the end zone. You know, Goddard was 28 yards, right? Fanon had, he got wide open.

He was your start of the week. That worked out. Tucker Kraft started the week. That worked out. And Goddard, you know, if he scores, you're really happy. You're not getting a lot more than that. But she has been doing it. And Mason Taylor also scored.

Miao. So there you go. It was a pretty good catch. It was. Jumped up, Moster guy. Didn't have to break a tackle, though. That was helpful. No, no.

We'll take a break. We'll talk duds. It's Chimray. Is it? Chimray. Okay, we got to get that one. Chimray D.K. That's how you remember it, because I knew the DK.

Chimray D.K. We got a rhyme going on? I guess. Okay. All right. Let's talk about some of these, you know, you talked about the week being wild and crazy, and it was. pooped in his big boy pants Some of these pants were loaded up man

They were loaded up Double duty Got filled this week I mean Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield they won going away And yet like it was like four fantasy points I don't even know who scored It was 15 for 20

I mean the defense Tess did work And Tess didn't score No but Tess was okay in the game But I think he was the only one Six fantasy points is, I mean, that's what I got out of. Baker, Baker again was, this is the second week in a row where it felt like he was not as accurate as he had been for the last year and a half.

Did you see me? He's just missing some guys. I mean, he missed, uh, twice he missed, um, Macca, Bucca, yeah. Yeah, Bucca was like, if, last week I think he caught four of 12 targets. This week he caught like three of nine targets. which I went back and I wanted to see what the practice reports were like for Abuka this week because there's a lot of people speculating the hamstrings still hurting him and he didn't practice Wednesday he was limited on Thursday

he did practice in full Friday probably not quite himself I mean they they took shots I don't know if you saw this game but they took they got stopped on seven straight goal line opportunities I was saving that for the Rashad White portion of this because it was hilarious. Yeah, it was funny. It was and but it wasn't just him. It was he took two shots. Baker took two shots on the one yard line and both balls were horrible. Both should have been picked off by Kool-Aid McKinstree. No separation from Abuca on the second one. Weird to throw a fade to Sterling Shepard on the first one. What was that decision? But Baker, yeah, this was um, it was oh last time we were here. We gave the ball three times in a row to a shot wide up the middle got stuffed a fourth to Sean Tucker got stuffed. So we got a, do something different. They're missing. They're missing, Bucky Irving really bad. Yeah. Bucking Irving, getting the play action game going, it's killing them. No Godwin, no Evans. So, I mean, they won, but now they go into the buy, and hopefully that means that

there's a good time for Abuka to get healthy, right, with the hamstring recovery, and maybe Godwin comes back afterward, but they were not passing the ball. They didn't need to against New Orleans. And then, Dak, Prescott. Jason. It was not good. I said going into this week that the thing I was watching the most this week was how DAC can perform against a good defense because they do have a difficult strength of schedule going forward for the quarterback and wide receiver the passing game and it started with Denver. And the way that he did not succeed was both comforting and really disheartening.

the pass rush was a problem. The Broncos have a good pass rush, and they were in his face all the time. They were taking throws that he would usually make, and it was really a big problem for DAC, and I'm worried that when he faces other teams with good pass rushes, he's not going to get it done. On the other side, you had the two, again,

goal-line touchdowns from Giovante Williams. Sure. That stinks, because it does say that going forward, If they get around the goal line, they will probably run the ball. And that's a shame as opposed to, you know, sometimes you've got those quarterbacks that they get around there and their go-to is the passing game still. It doesn't appear to be with DAC. However, when that happens and the touchdowns go on the ground, at least the offense scored enough. Like there were fantasy points to be had if C.D. Lamb got two more yards on, you know, that pass.

You would have had a different outlook. So I'm kind of, I'm, I'm no. nervous going forward. I'll try to give you some good news. Because next week is Arizona for... No pass rush. For the Cowboys by week. And then even if the second half is difficult,

they're difficult game. So they're on the road in week 11 against Vegas. That's perfectly fine. Philling Kansas City are at home. Detroit is on the road, but then Minnesota and the Chargers are at home. So in that stretch run of some difficult defenses there, your home for a lot of them.

Right. Against quarterback specifically, the three toughest matchups left after Denver is Philly, Kansas City, and the Chargers, and all three of those are at home. Well, there was some disappearing from our big-time running back situations here. Bejohn 9 for 25. Christian McCaffrey, 8 for 25. If you told me 17 total opportunities on the ground for 50 total yards between those two this week, with the matchups that specifically Bejohn has, crazy. Camara useless this week.

He did, and he got, I think he got hurt, too. Jordan Mason, we already saw that Thursday they were shut down. Rico Dowdell, he ran well, he just didn't get much work, didn't get any targets. Chuba scored? Chuba did score. Jordan Mason is worth noting, like, he's a bench now. He's a backup. He probably is a bench, yeah.

Right off the bat, first game, Aaron Jones out snapped him, out carried him. He got the work ahead of him. The way the game looked, Jones was going to be involved. I feel like it was almost performance, too. They were like, hey, Jones is just running better, so we're going to keep you on the field. By the way, real quick break in here. D'Amico Ryan says, he says, quote,

I do not when asked if he has an update on Joe Mixing. So I know you guys probably forgot Joe Mixing exists. I did. They could probably use Joe Mixer based on the way they're running the football. Rashad White, 13 for 35. And so many goals. line carries. He had so many chances to score. Jalen Warren, it was okay. 13 for 62. I don't,

I don't think that was too bad. Romandre still got 74% of the snaps, but it was Cleveland and he did not perform 14 for 34. Henderson looked great in the running game. He performed fantastic, and then towards the end of the game, they get near the goal line. Yeah. Yeah. And he fumbles how. How does this happen? He was. I would have probably been more encouraged by his performance. then even rj harvey from a long-term perspective if that fumble doesn't happen because of the fact that they might give him more work because remandre is worse than david's so it's like there would be opportunity there but um as a huge disappointment speaking of huge disappointments uh got shut out on thursday we knew about that abuka nine targets three for 35 he um you know you you look at the targets 12 and nine in the last two weeks you love it but You know, he also just missed another touchdown in this game. It's just not worked out the last couple weeks at all. They have the buy, and then we'll see where they're at after that.

A lot of people started Darnel Mooney. Hey, I will personally apologize. On Sunday Live, we had a lot of Darnell Mooney questions, and I was confident. I was confident that Mooney would have a good game. I went and checked every single one of my leagues just to see if Mooney was available. I tried to trade for him from Al this week, and he's like, I'm not giving you somebody to help you win. I would have started him 100%, so. I thought the way he had played last year with Kirk and the fact, like, Drake,

Drake, London. Oh, nice. Drake London is out. Darnal Mooney has to be the number one guy for this. And he has the ability against Miami. It did not work. It was devastating. The question of Kirk Cousins.

Right. Could he be better than Michael Pinnock's for this team? Could another team trade for Kirk Cousins? Nope. Nope. Nope. D-U-N. It is over. He looked so bad. Falcons just. What are you, man? Well, I've said the Falcons, they put all that money into Kirk. They had the backup plan with Michael Penix. It's possible both their plans are not going to work.

Because Kirk looked terrible and Michael Pennix has not looked good. Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. You're not a Pennix fan? overall he has looked bad. Okay. Yeah, I've seen some flashos that make me slightly more encouraged than that. Okay. What do we think of

Jake Ferguson? Dude. One target? Goose. One target? Man, I guess I would have to go back and check. I bet he was blocking a lot due to the Denver pass. He did block a lot of teams from victory this week. Yes. But he, with

Citi and George, his targets will be down. He still has touchdown upper opportunity every single week, but this was a... It was a guise, man. Dalton Kincaid, he had an early catch in this game. I was like, oh, they're back. This is the go-to guy. It was the only one he got.

Yeah. Had a couple more targets, but no more catches. They didn't need to do much. I don't know where Josh Allen ended up. He might have been fine because of the rushing touchdown, but it was like, this is the James Cook show. It was. Hawkinson, just two for 26.

Still in the top ten. Hey, T.J. Hawkinson, everyone, just stop it. Don't play. don't have you don't have to you don't have to you don't got a point i made a trade of nothing for nothing that is exactly what that's the best kind of a couple weeks ago we traded like a mason taylor for hawkinson deal and well no i got a i got a much worse defense that oh you got to lose yeah that trade we shouldn't have done that i agree yeah we should just cut all the things connected to that trade j hockinson is pacing for 540 yards next time i'm going to cut somebody jason

and then you're going to cut somebody I want us to trade first and then we cut the opposite person's. The Steelers defense sucks. They're bad. Yeah, they got me negative four in a league this week. I mean, I saw someone call him the shower curtain. Oh, instead of the steel curtain?

Yeah. The shower curtain? That's not bad. And the funny thing is, is it's like they are paying a lot of money for that defense. Jalen Ramsey and Watt are two of the priciest defenders in the league and they are not getting it done oh my gosh that is crazy all right um yeah no nothing from andrews and likely no lamar back so just hold on that that they played Thursday by the way yes

Miami the the surging dolphins maybe well the dolphins had like what two or three of their games have been really close at the end right like they almost beat the chargers like they're they're to their credit to all the insults and 27 29 to the The Chargers. And they scored at the very end of the game. It was the Waller touchdown, and then they gave up the McConkey play for a game-winning field goal for the Chargers. They lost by three points a week before that to Carolina in a close game. Which that's fine in all.

I'm just saying like they could have like a little winning street going. It's the allowing 33, 33, 33, 31, 21, 21, 27, 29, 31, 10. That's cousins. That was Cousins. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's, Lowe's, Nose, Sundays there for NFL football. earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner of the NFL We've got another game tonight It's gone, everyone

No, it's not gone, we got another game. Oh, we still have a game? We got football tonight. Marcus, Marioota goes to Arrowhead. That's the week eight is over, everybody. That's not going to solve our problem of close games most likely. No, no. This game is the perfect way to finish off week eight.

If I can have Marioota, just set the stage here because this is really high odds. Oh, yeah, the Monday Night Mirror. Miracle. What do you need? I need Mario to outscore Rashi Rice by 24.8 points. Okay. And then Josh loses. You need Rashi Rice to not play. Right. And then Marioada to score 25. Right. Okay. Easy work. Yeah. Yeah. I doubt it. All right. We've got the Monday night game. We've got waiver wire tomorrow. We'll do some midseason review stuff this week.

get into the we'll like reset the mechanism and we'll get into week nine and we'll talk about maybe a more sane week of football. Hopefully. And trade deadlines are coming up. We've only got a couple more weeks away, I think,

for a lot of leagues. So we can talk some trades here soon as well. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com and you could click that submit a question button. Send us your questions for this week.

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