Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 8 Studs & Duds + Monday FUNday, Ready to Roll - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/28

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

What an exciting weekend of football! Week 8 recap on today’s fantasy football podcast! Andy, Mike, and Jason discuss the best and worst performances. Which disappointing players should be benched i...n fantasy football lineups? Plus, big injury updates and Monday Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for October 28th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (04:40) - Monday Punday (06:55) - Ready to Roll (16:05) - NFL News  (28:40) - Fantasy Football Studs (28:55) - QB Studs  (35:50) - RB Studs (40:00) - WR Studs (46:40) - TE Studs (50:55) - Fantasy Football Duds (51:00) - QB Duds (58:00) - RB Duds (01:02:15) - WR Duds (01:08:10) - TE Duds Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Ready to Roll presented by Nissan. Visit https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/crossovers-suvs/pathfinder/rock-creek-edition.html News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:26 Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway back with you. What a weekend. That was awesome. Bears fans looking like the D-Wade statue this morning, aghast at the Hail Mary. That was – it's fun to be on the winning side of that, but it's devastating if you're on the other end i mean i remember the cardinals in the uh was it the playoff game or the packer game where aaron rogers and jeff janice and yeah i mean you just feel like you've been cheated yeah because
Starting point is 00:01:57 you won the game but then you didn't however in that specific game it really felt like the commanders they were gonna beat the tar out of the bears and it was like unfair that the bears were gonna sneak out a win so i kind of was okay with it especially considering that the commanders were at home if if there is a if there is a hail mary changed a loss into a victory i always want that to be at the home people yeah because otherwise it's like you know yeah just 80,000 people just destroyed just go home sad everybody all you family members and kids that came out here to watch this lovely game you love eat it go home no I want them to do what they did and go home and have a lifelong memory of I was at that game yeah yeah it was uh And you had the screenshots afterwards and the video afterwards of.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Stevenson. Of Stevenson, the Bears cornerback, mid-play taunting the Commanders fans. Now, to his credit, he came out early this morning, apologized, you know, didn't double down on nothing there. But then he's the one that ran over and tipped the ball up in the air in the most come up in some moment of if you haven't seen it what happened on that play is there's there's like you know personal recordings from the stands of people watching he is walking back to towards the end zone facing away from facing away from the play pointing Facing away from the play, pointing at the crowd. And all of a sudden, you see the wide receivers from the commanders
Starting point is 00:03:27 running towards the end zone. So he's like, oh, I should be part of this play. Then he runs over and tips the ball. Up in the air. Which is a no-no. To the commanders. That's the no-no on the Hail Mary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You've got to bat it down. You don't tip it up. That's how you lose. But that was just one play of many this week and this was by far the most positive reaction to the weekend like the studs on today's studs and duds episode are there's so many of them yeah because we had actual offense there was tons of offense the mondayunday submissions, which are normally entirely marked by people's fury and disappointment and sadness, to like an 80-20, flipped the other direction completely this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:18 A lot of people happy. I really think we should petition the NFL to make National Tight End Week like every week. What about other positions? That's a good point. Yeah, National. Quarterback Day. Wide Receiver Day. National Running Back Reception Day.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Oh, okay. Let's take it to the next level. You want to nuance this thing. Well, I want to fantasy this thing. I don't care about handoffs. National No Kicker Day? Yeah. All fourth downs?
Starting point is 00:04:44 I like it. The National go for it on fourth. Yeah. Yes, sir. But yesterday, 17 touchdowns to tight ends. How is that? For the record, we had been averaging 7.4 touchdowns to the tight end position every week. So it's all fixed?
Starting point is 00:05:00 I guess so. Every tight end is good? Yeah, no, it's great. Cool. Cool. I'll definitely consider the no, it's great. Cool, cool. I'll definitely consider the position settled on my roster. Yes, we fixed it. All right, like I said, you guys submitted your reactions to the weekend via pun, and we were happy to see how many positive ones there were. Let's jump in.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'll start it. Yes. With Ridley, believe it or not. Oh, I don't like this one. Cedric Thrillman destroyed me everywhere. Oh, Darnell Money. And Jason, I'll give you one of these, but Rad McConkey. Glad McConkey, baby.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Oh, Cade Awesome. Cade Awesome, that's pretty good. I also saw Ottenheimer. Oh. Not bad. Oh. To Infinity. And Devon.
Starting point is 00:05:51 How about Jameis Winston? Or, whoa, Knicks. And yay, Flowers. But they weren't all good. No, no. You had Breece Small. What? Jack Poopscott? I like that. And Troy Stank good. No, no. You had Breece Small. Jack Poopscott?
Starting point is 00:06:07 I like that. And Troy Stanklin. Oh, Jason. And this week, it was the no bone zone. What, another one? Hey, Poop Douglas. Am I just all the poop? Tyler locked up.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah, you got Jordan Battison. Fake London. And my personal favorite of the day, Rico Dayquil. Rico Dayquil. Oh, man. Oh, that is. The stadium was fresh out of Dayquil. That is a mystery what's going on over there. Yeah, Dallas tried to come back.
Starting point is 00:06:44 They gave me a shot in our uh our league of record you mean CeeDee Lamb did yeah I mean I needed I went into the night needing 35 points or 34 and a half points from CeeDee Lamb so I was passively watching the game and all of a sudden every time I looked over CeeDee was in the end zone I lost by 0.9 yeah with the second most points scored in the league so for those of you out there because it was a big week fantasy points wise so there were a lot of high scores which means there were people that
Starting point is 00:07:11 were in that boat, the same boat that I was in where you scored a ton of points and you still took an L so I'm trying to focus on the fact that my team scored a lot of points and there's a lot of football left so there you go Instagram at FantasyFootballers focus on the fact my team scored a lot of points and there's a lot of football left. So there you go. Instagram at the, uh, at fancy footballers, Twitter at the FF ballers. If you want to submit your Monday pundays for next week, let's get into ready to roll.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Welcome to ready to, presented by Nissan. Eight weeks into the season, two months into the season, we have some data. We have some information. We know how things are going based on the draft strategy you might have selected. And one of the more popular, i guess what would you call it like uh detour strategy wise it's a i mean it's a it's a contrarian strategy from from the the general thinking and consensus at least for how fantasy players have played historically and i would say still for the most part they do so we're talking about zero RB
Starting point is 00:08:26 strategy a theory that became in vogue years ago Sean Siegel talking about avoiding fragility at the running back position trying to find wide receivers difference making tight ends in the first six rounds and then looking to the running back position later on in the draft yeah and and there are there are um this is a method of drafting that absolutely can win has won many huge tournaments you know a lot of times when you look at the big massive tournament plays zero rb sometimes wins because the the positive outcome on the best case scenario is massive but some years works really really well some years it doesn't and this year was very interesting leading in because there were so many wide receivers drafted in the first round and usually it's the inverse
Starting point is 00:09:19 usually it's all running backs and a couple wide receivers or a quarterback here or a tight end there it's often the pendulum swings based off of what happened last year and last year the running backs the early round running backs were extremely disappointing it's not that our commentary on zero rb today reflecting on the data through two months is not meant to be any sort of decisive, you know, commentary on whether it's a good or bad strategy each and every year, but rather point out a little bit of the vulnerability of the, of the strategy, because, you know, we, we had several mock drafts that were run. Um, and I'll point to one that Papa Josh did where he navigated to zero RB, and, you know, you looked at a draft that we did in the offseason
Starting point is 00:10:12 where Harrison and Pukunukuwa to start the draft, Kyler Murray, Sam Laporta, and then Amari Cooper, Terry McLaurin. So you go six rounds, no running back, and then you turn your attention to starters that have opportunities. And at the time when he made this draft, this was a really well-executed 0RB example of trying to get the late-round running backs that might be better than you think. But if you ended up with, like he went for running backs at that point rounds seven through 11 zamir white um zach moss nope jerome ford started okay for zach moss jerome ford obviously um
Starting point is 00:10:55 kind of dealt with injury some oddities with the playing time and then rico dowdle and so i guess the point being the way it's worked out this year, like if you look at running backs taken round seven or later and the fantasy points per game, there are a few, the Chuba Hubbards, Brian Robinson, Tony Pollard's been okay, J.K. Dobbins you found late and found some opportunities. And Jordan Mason, if you happen to be drafting late enough to know
Starting point is 00:11:28 Elijah Mitchell was injured and Jordan Mason was going to be the guy the reality is that it was a little bit more threading the needle this year to get it right it's tough because it's the hardest position to find
Starting point is 00:11:44 on the waiver wire throughout the season to find, you know, long-term viability. Now, it looks like maybe Chuba will be that, right? Chuba, Jonathan Brooks may not come back this year. Maybe Chuba Hubbard will be one of those few. But think about all the other names that people invested into that thought they might find that opportunity. You can look to rookies, right? You can look to Blake Corum and Trey Benson who haven't been able to produce. You can look at Ty Chandler,
Starting point is 00:12:10 who you thought was maybe going to get a 50-50 shot with Aaron Jones. Hasn't happened. Marshawn Lloyd, another rookie. Jalen McLaughlin, a committee back that didn't work out. Jalen Warren hasn't been able to get it going. Eckler not really getting it going. Tajay Spears. Like a lot of the zero
Starting point is 00:12:25 RB running backs this year, round seven or later, it hasn't worked out. On the other side of the coin, the teams that are winning right now, they've got those foundational backs that were invested into. The Saquon Barkleys, Jameer Gibbs, Henry,
Starting point is 00:12:42 Kyron, Jacobs. The top tier running backs for the most part have stayed healthy. There have been misses. Yeah, I mean, a lot of the injuries at the top, A.J. Brown missed a month. Puka was bad. Harrison has been a disappointment. It's just kind of flipped this year. But I would say if we want to be prescriptive a little bit and talk about when it works versus when it doesn't. I want to remember how the whole point, the entire point of what allows 0RB to really smash,
Starting point is 00:13:10 like if five people in your league are doing 0RB, it's not going to work. The thing is, is while everyone is loading up on these running backs and allowing superstar wide receivers to drop, and you can take stud, stud, and you just mash the button on incredible depth at that position and then and then fill it in later that that's helpful but this year it wasn't that way people weren't letting stud wide receivers drop to the one two turn you know the guys that on previous seasons we were getting at the one two turn were like the wide receiver four or five
Starting point is 00:13:44 or the wide receiver four and five there and then this year istwo turn were like the wide receiver four or five or the wide receiver four and five there and then this year is like you're getting the wide receiver nine ten by ADP so I would say look like you said Mike usually next year's ADP is going to be based on what happens this year running backs are going to they will rock it up and so if next year it flips ironically people will not want to do 0RB because of the failure of this season. And that's when you probably want to take your shot. And we did have, I mean, some of the anti-fragility stuff,
Starting point is 00:14:13 it didn't work out in the wide receiver's favor this year. A.J. Brown, Puka Nakua, Cooper Cup, those were top-tier wide receivers. Tyreek Hill lost his quarterback. Marvin Harrison started slow, Maybe is still starting slow. A lot of those big names didn't offer you the consistency you hoped for. Yeah, the top of the wide receiver draft is wild. I'm going to be excited at the end of the season to look at the actual bust rate, the consistency rate of these early wide receivers who are –
Starting point is 00:14:46 historically, an early wide receiver is a great bet. You know, a slightly higher hit rate than the early round running backs. But it feels like it is completely upside down. On top of that, the early round tight ends. It's like if you took Kelsey, Laporta, Andrews, Kincaid, those are the early tight ends. Those guys are not providing a positional advantage. At least Kelsey, it's a lot better now. But they're just saying, like, over the course of the season,
Starting point is 00:15:14 you're not happy with those draft picks. And the same for the quarterback where, like, Allen has been very hot-cold. Jalen Hurts had a lull at the beginning of the year. Mahomes is a catastrophe. It's like if you got Lamar out of that fourth bag, then you're super pumped that you went that direction.
Starting point is 00:15:34 This year is really strange that the early running backs are crushing and the early other positions are not. And the truth is if it goes bad for ZRB, it can go really, really bad because you need to be able to buy like it gains strength as the
Starting point is 00:15:52 season goes on. So you need to be able to buy some wins early on the back of the, the wide receiver and tight end and those piecemeal players before you can go and acquire, like you can invest a lot of fab in solidifying your running back position or trying to could have gone out and spent for cream hunt or somebody like that. But if you start go and acquire like you can invest a lot of fab in solidifying your running back position or trying to could have gone out and spent for kareem hunt or somebody like that but if you start two and five that's a that's a tough battle back into uh into contention so we just wanted to illustrate kind of what happened this year and shine a light onto
Starting point is 00:16:18 um the way zero rb has panned out for a lot of people this season it's going to be very interesting to see what it looks like compared to a couple years ago. That was ready to roll. Thanks again to our sponsor Nissan and the all new reimagined Nissan Kicks. Take on your city in rain or shine with the bold new Nissan Kicks Intelligent All-Wheel Drive. Head over to NissanUSA.com
Starting point is 00:16:39 to learn more. Intelligent all-wheel design cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. The weekend was not without its injuries. Stephon Diggs, non-contact right knee injury.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Have you heard any updates? I haven't heard any updates, but usually when you see that, that's, I mean, I could think of one example, you know, where I remember it looked like it'd be season end or it wasn't, but this is usually. Yeah, we've seen this play before. Yeah, I mean, it's so common. When you're not contacted and your knee goes out, that means you probably tore an ACL. We don't have reporting on that yet, but as of
Starting point is 00:17:28 this moment, I am assuming Stephon Diggs is done for the season. Christian Kirk out for the year with a fractured collarbone. Brian Thomas Jr. left early in the game against the Packers with a rib injury, having an MRI. They're looking for fractures.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Gabe Davis, their other wide receiver, exited in the second quarter with a shoulder injury that he re-aggravated. He didn't return. Jacksonville's wide receiver court potentially wiped out in one week. Evan Ingram is the new David Njoku. That Jags-Packer game. And that went down to the wire. For fantasy purposes, I mean, things really screwed up there.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Things did not go according to plan. Jordan Love, unfortunately, he got hurt. And he got hurt early in the game. We were watching. I know he was playing poorly before he left the game and didn't come back. But he was injured early in that game. I mean, we saw it in his passes, his throws, his mobility while he was playing what little of the game left before he exited. He was not himself.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And so, like, you know. He missed, like, almost the second half, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, he missed a bunch, but I know people were upset that he hadn't done much to that point, and it was like, he got injured, and I mean, we were watching. The whole game was like, oh my
Starting point is 00:18:54 gosh, he is dealing with something. Well, in the big divisional matchup with the Lions, he's probably in jeopardy of missing next week. Drake May left with a concussion, did not return. Kendra Miller left with a hamstring injury. Gracious, I hadn't seen that yet. No, for real?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Oh, man. Dennis, Dennis, your favorite guy got hurt again. I noticed that the Saints thermometer behind you that threatened your head. My luscious locks? Your luscious locks. It was supposed to fill up to 10 wins and then we'd shave your head on the air. It is still at the point where we stuck it on the wall. So luscious locks. Your luscious locks. It was supposed to fill up to 10 wins, and then we'd shave your head on the air. It is still at the point where we stuck it on the wall. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:30 They got two wins on the season, and they need eight more to shave my head. There are nine total games left for the Saints. Now, I got good news for you, Saints fans. You play the Panthers this week. What if we combine it? So maybe you get one more. Can we combine it with the Jets and see if both teams combine for 10 wins?
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah, sure. Remember last week when I said on the show, what if they lose this game? The Jets. About the Jets? Do you remember that? Yeah. I was like, what if they lose this game to New England?
Starting point is 00:20:02 It happened. It happened in unbelievable fashion where they held the opponent under 250 yards. They did not turn the ball over. I believe that is something like 750 and 0 when those two statistics are true since 1970. I don't know what happened. They still lost the game. It's a mystery to all. Jets fans know what happened. What happened? They're the J uh it's a mystery to all i fans know what happened what
Starting point is 00:20:26 happened they're the jets they're cursed it's like some some franchises ah yes you just know you're like you're pessimistic and you're like look as a cardinals fan i know we're sitting top of the division but we suck the number one and i'm fully expecting everything to go bad because I know it will. You know, it's like some franchises are just meant to lose. And I'm sorry, Jets fans. I wish that it was. Can they like move on to another team? Because this has got to be the most painful season.
Starting point is 00:21:00 No, if you're a Jets fan, you've got to stay a Jets fan. You've got to keep hoping and riding the wave I mean the only thing I'm happy about you know that was cool yeah he predicted it the only thing I'm happy about because I am sad for Jets fans Jets fans deserve some happiness I know I dunk on the Jets a lot but that's really I mean that's really an Aaron it's not a Jets thing that's an Aaron Rodgers thing I like dunking on Aaron Rodgers and his whiny, whiny face. And I think if Jets fans are being honest with themselves, they get it. They're like, yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Whose fault was this one, you think, Rodgers thinks? Everyone else's. Kendrick Miller, like I said, he left early. He'll probably be in the doghouse for that. What a loser. He looked great on two different runs that did not count and were both called back. Jordan Mason aggravated his shoulder injury. They said
Starting point is 00:21:50 maybe he could have come into the game. At this point, it doesn't matter. Christian McCaffrey is expected to practice during the team's week nine bye, so they are gone. They're on bye. So if you had Mason, say bye. That was so brutal of him leaving the game two weeks ago with a shoulder injury.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Then he plays. After feeling really uncomfortable about the start, makes it through. You got to feel great going against the Dallas Cowboys rushing defense. Look at Isaac Garendo, the rookie who dominated them. So I started Mason in multiple places, and that was brutal. Well, yeah, who wouldn't have? Yeah, that's just brutal. That's the process.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I think there's going to be a lot of questions now with either picking up Garendo or just dropping Jordan Mason because the expectation is Christian McCaffrey is going to be back in Week 10. That is the expectation. That is not a guarantee. And then they're on by this week. And I would say in general, unless you absolutely have to have a roster spot and you're going to basically, I would try to not move on.
Starting point is 00:22:56 We do not know. I'm not dropping Mason. Yeah, exactly. We do not know that Christian McCaffrey, despite the fact that they also said that he would be ready for week one. He has to remember that. Ready in the utilization levels. And we've had seasons in fantasy where Elijah Mitchell was still getting work with Christian McCaffrey on the field. Mason should be rostered and stay rostered.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Debo Samuel left early due to a rib injury. So don't, you know, Juwan Jennings missed this week. He gets the bye week to recover. Ayuk is not coming back. Just keep that in the back of your head because I would have a hard time believing if somebody spin up on Juwan Jennings this past week, he ends up out.
Starting point is 00:23:39 They've got another week they got to worry about. He's going to hit a lot of waiver wires just in under the radar. If you're already in contention, you don't need to start somebody pay attention to him and we'll talk about it on the waiver show tomorrow and mike rico dada left uh no he was inactive due to an illness wink he didn't have the uh you don't think he was i i i only say that because of what's coming out from cowboys beat reporters on twitter they're reporters on Twitter. They're all saying it without saying it.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Rico Dotto was here. He was signing autographs. I didn't see anything. It must have really happened in the locker room. Was he drinking on the sidelines? No, he wasn't. Like Dalvin Cook? I'm not really sure.
Starting point is 00:24:19 We don't know what he was drinking. Look, that could have been hydration. That could have been 99 bananas. That came straight from the minibar, man. It could have been a little juice shot. Yeah. Look, that could have been hydration. That could have been 99 bananas. That came straight from the minibar, man. It could have been a little juice shot. Yeah. A little juice shot in a glass bottle? Yeah. Show me one of those. We're not sure what that was.
Starting point is 00:24:34 No, it was clear. But the point being clear juice. Plenty of them. Plenty of beat reports. Strong arguments. It was white grape juice in a little glass bottle. Plenty of beat reporters just saying it was a weird situation. They didn't see him being
Starting point is 00:24:50 any sort of ill. And then he... Look, Dalvin Cook played great, guys. Yeah. Yeah. But Zeke played really, really well, too. Zeke actually did look he did not yes he did
Starting point is 00:25:06 no he did there were a couple carries where he looked all right when yes when it's like second and long and they're like there's no way they're gonna run this ball and then they run it and he gets a six yard gain you're like well yeah of course um they both looked awful the Cowboys run game is non-existent they need a real player in there that real player probably still isn't Rico Dowdle but he is the best of the three but they're probably not going to use him do you going back to Dalvin Cook's drinking do you guys remember the video where Peyton Manning is interviewing Marshall oh yes oh yes so Peyton Manning's interviewing Marshall Lynch this is post-career and then and he's just like you know what was your pre-game warm-up or whatever he tells Peyton Manning's interviewing Marshall Lynch. This is post-career. And he's just like, you know, what was your pregame warm-up or whatever? He tells Peyton Manning, he's like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:48 every day before the game I would take a shot. And Peyton, I think it seemed like he genuinely thought like – What? What kind of – like a needle. He's like, tortorol, or he's going to be throwing out all the medicines that the pain juice that they get. They get an injection. He's like, I didn't think it was like Hennessy.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. He's like, well, where do you get that? And he's like, from my backpack. Marshawn, man. One of a kind. Oh, my gosh. All right. That was today's News and Notes presented by USA Insurance.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Learn more at USA.com slash insurance. We'll take a break. We'll hit the studs. I'm pretty sure Cowboys fans were just like past the bottle. You know what I mean? That team looks... That offense was broken for three quarters. I kept
Starting point is 00:26:40 messaging our company Slack. What is this offense? It's just dumping the ball off to Jake Ferguson, who's two yards away from him, and then getting throttled. I did agree with the commentator last night. That pointed out the fact that Dak cannot move the way he used to move. And I think that that has played a role right now in moving in the pocket, getting outside the pocket, taking the five or six free yards to me he looks he just looks bigger and
Starting point is 00:27:12 he's look like he's not sleeping well uh not sleeping well is this a sleep number i'm just asking questions man maybe uh tell maybe the sleep number's not doing the job, huh? Got to go pod four. I ask questions over here, guys. Listen. He is on pace right now through six games. I don't want to count this last week because he had negative one rushing yard. Okay, so I'm going to take that out even though that should exist.
Starting point is 00:27:39 This week? Yes. You're taking out the one he just played? I'm taking out the one he just played prior to this because you talked about i mean you saw in that game he didn't run he was immobile the previous six games what do you think dak prescott's 17 game pace of total rushing yards is and to give you context for his career uh like last season he was at 242 a couple hundred he's a couple hundred yard guy. I would have guessed, having no context, because I wasn't paying attention, I would have guessed like 200.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, same. I probably would have as well. Without the negative one rushing yard yesterday, he was on pace for 70 total rushing yards. Yeah, that's not even a wow. In the course of the season, that's big Ben. So that just adds more fuel to what we were seeing. And they don't – this was my fear about them not being able to repeat
Starting point is 00:28:28 what they did as an offense last year is that there seems to be more dysfunction to the offense right now than there was last year from a play calling functionality like frustration standpoint. I will say this. They did play a very good San Francisco 49ers team on the road. It's not always going to be easy. I mean, Dak Prescott this season against Baltimore was the quarterback one on the week.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It's not like he's going to disappear. Going forward, Atlanta, Philly, the Texans, the Commanders, I think there's a good stretch run ahead of passing defense. They are. I don't know if I like those last three, though. They're two-and-a-half point dogs right now on the road against Atlanta. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Let's talk about some of the good that happened this weekend. This week's Fantasy Stud Muffins. It's not going to be possible for me to get into every name of every player that did well. No. But I want... Go ahead. Yeah, I was just saying this week there's too many people that went nuclear. But I want you to focus on some of the names that might be prescriptive or interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:38 The top five scorers at the quarterback position were Jalen Hurts, Bo Nix, Kirk Cousins, Brock Purdy, and Matthew Stafford. Hurts was such a slow start to this game. Ends up with three rushing touchdowns. Three rushing touchdowns and a bomb touchdown that was awesome to Devontae Smith. He ended up having just an outstanding game. I really wanted to discuss Bo Nix because Bo Nix has been really good on the season. He's the quarterback 10 right now, and that's despite starting really poor. Like the first month of the season, he didn't look good.
Starting point is 00:30:16 He couldn't connect on anything down the field. Three of the last four weeks, the second month of his career, he's been a top 10 quarterback, barring Monday Night Football, although he's the quarterback two right now. He's going to stay in the top 10, I think. He's going to stay in the top 10. Las Vegas, Los Angeles, New Orleans, and Carolina. I would point out that if you want to find a trend there, home games.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yes. Those were his three top ten games were at home. And not the hardest defenses. No. And what's wild is like, and this is anecdotal from watching the games every week, I feel like Denver has the ball the entire game. That's how it's felt. Like the past attempts this past week, 37,
Starting point is 00:31:02 I just feel like they have the ball the whole game. Their defense is very good um he has to go on the road against Baltimore Kansas City the next two weeks yeah Kansas City I I am definitely afraid of Baltimore I'm not Baltimore is actually yeah they're giving it up to the quarterback they really are their 30th on the season of of fantasy points given up to quarterback so I'm not too worried and I do think we need to the the reason I bring up Bo Nix is because people don't view him enough as the dual threat that he is. You know, we don't have any problem playing Jaden Daniels from before week one coming in because we know he's a crazy
Starting point is 00:31:34 dual threat guy that could run for north of 500 yards. Maybe he runs for 700, 800 yards. That's amazing. And Bo Nix is not the runner that Jaden Daniels is. Jaden Daniels is starting to look like he's in the Lamar Jackson tier of like four people in history. But right now, Bo Nix is on pace for over 550 rushing yards. Even with a down week. Even with a down rushing week. So this is a dual-threat quarterback, and that's going to raise your floor quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. he does have to throw it to troy franklin though papa josh he doesn't have to he didn't really yeah he didn't throw it to troy franklin yesterday and it didn't bother him at all because he was slinging it to anyone and everyone um but papa josh mad props this week you traded for anthony richardson from my team i got rid of that fool for two2 of fab. But then despite doing that, you went to the waiver wire, picked up and played Bo Nix over Anthony Richardson. Very good move. He wanted to play my stream against me. That is fair. That was your stream of the week. And Cousins was Jason's and Cousins had a great game. We finally got another big time game from
Starting point is 00:32:41 Kirk Cousins, 23 for 29. Does he play Tampa anymore? You know what? I guess I'm going to have to apply that. He does get to play Dallas' defense. Brock Purdy, Matthew Stafford, Lamar. It was a struggle for Lamar. They lost the game, but he put together a good fantasy week. Herbert threw for almost 300 again.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Wait. Baltimore didn't lose the game. They played against the Browns. The Browns can't score 20 points this season they're one in five well they had to rely on their backup quarterback a little known um a quarterback named Jameis Winston who I like this um somebody pointed out that Jameis Winston when he gets to speak to the media always looks like he is he's like reading a line from an inspirational movie that he's been practicing really hard in the mirror yeah he is a character man i i love that guy he is he is his play for you play for the name on your helmet oh wait there's no decal on my helmet. I mean, I love them, but it is so interesting that the team that was 1-5 hadn't scored 20 points this season puts up 29 against Baltimore
Starting point is 00:33:52 as soon as they moved to the backup due to injury, and now you've got the Browns, and you're going, they're interesting. I mean, they lose Amari Cooper, and it was fine because they had such an improvement at quarterback. It just shows you how good Amari Cooper would have been on the Browns. Really? He could have been sent to, like, a purgatory right now. We'll see, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I'm telling you, as someone who has Dalton Kincaid, who, praise God, he got into the end zone. But as somebody who has watched this team week after week after week, if they could throw it zero times, I swear they would. I swear they would. They do not. It hurts them to throw the football or something. And Amartya Cooper had a disastrous week.
Starting point is 00:34:38 We'll talk about it later. Now, going into the week, I think a lot of people were off of Baker Mayfield. But if I had told you before the week began that he would have 50 passing attempts, I believe that that narrative would have changed. It would. We did say that we thought he'd be better than people expected. The headline is
Starting point is 00:34:55 you lose Godwin and Evans, but Baker has been good independent of them. Yeah, he's been a top eight quarterback in all but one game, and this game, the first one we've seen without those two star-wide receivers, he puts up 330-3. Now, he did throw two picks, but 330-3 with backups is amazing because Lazer has been awesome.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I would bench him against Kansas City this week. Yeah, on the road against the Chiefs is... Jaden Daniels, he'll married his way to a productive day. He fought through an injury. And then Kyler Murray on the road winning back-to-back games for the first time. Good for you, Kyler. And one thing to point out, Arizona's offensive line has not given up a sack for three consecutive games.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Now to finish your sentence, for the first time in like 25 games. Yes, sorry. Kyler had not won back-to-back games in years. And going east, the Cardinals have struggled. And then they end up winning another game and lead the division and have a better seed than the Packers.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Well, the Packers right now, they're not a division winner, but the Cardinals are. So how does that make you feel, Al? Okay, he can't talk. He can't talk. Very good.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Also, Falcon, how about your Niners would not be in the playoffs right now while you look up at the awesome Cardinals. Yeah, look straight up. Long season. Look straight up. Long season. I got to dunk now because I can't dunk later. Yeah, enjoy this.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Running back studs this week. Top five scorers. James Cook, two touchdowns. Josh Jacobs getting it done. Devon Achan. Welcome back. Baby, that's my guy. Ramondre, two touchdowns. Ramondre's in this list.
Starting point is 00:36:43 It's so stupid. I moved Ramondre into my lineup list. It's so stupid. I moved Ramondre into my lineup and placed at Chuba Hubbard moments before kickoff. I answered that one on Sunday Live. I'm like, I'm not playing Chuba. I'm going to play these gross running backs.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Ramondre had 23 opportunities. He carried the ball 20 times on the ground for 40, 80 yards. Zeke's like, what's wrong with that? Yeah. No, maybe it's like, what are you talking about? That is amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Joe Mixon, baby. 21. Joe Mixon is just unstoppable. So I think HN is the headline there, like 10 for 97, eight targets with Tua. The offense had meaningful, you had meaningful fantasy players once again. We are back. Yeah, I mean, the running game opens up.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I talked about this ad nauseum. And most are two touchdowns. Yeah, most are two touchdowns. The fact that you're not – the running back behind the line of scrimmage is not running against 11 people when Tua is there with the weapons they have in Tyreek and Jalen Waddle. It's a completely different defense, and Devon Achan is not meant to go up against stacked boxes. What he's meant to do is catch the ball running full speed,
Starting point is 00:37:54 and if you just look at his three starts with Tua, forget the rushing work, which he's been very good. Just give me his fantasy point. His reception pace in the three starts with Tua would be 113 receptions for 1100 receiving yards and 11 receiving touchdowns. That's a wide receiver one. And then you add on the rushing work. He's basically, he's averaging 23.1 PPR points per game with Tua. And look, you can make fun of Ramondre,
Starting point is 00:38:29 but the opportunities were there on a team that has proven they're going to give him to Ramondre. For the third consecutive game, Antonio Gibson was under 1.5 a carry. Yeah, he was atrocious. Shut up. I'm still mad at Andy for having Raheem Mostert, Ramondre Stevenson, and Cedric Tillman put up. That was the trash part of his lineup. They put up six touchdowns on me.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Mike, I'm not sure you're aware, but Jason and I played each other in Dynasty. I am aware. And, you know, things went the way they went. I mean, Ramondre with that line, it's unbelievable. Like, what was Gibson running at? Five carries for six yards, 1.2 a carry. Yeah, so that's atrocious. And Ramondre's at what, like 2.6 or 2.4?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Nearly. Oh, that's double. It is. They have a problem. So, look, DeAndre Swift, it was a slow start. It was a fast finish. He keeps dominating. Jason started the week DeAndre Swift.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Plays Arizona next week. You can start him up. He'll be all right. And then Jonathan Taylor back from the waiver or back from the injury list. He is so good. He looked amazing. I mean, there were plays that just there was not the play was not there. And he's just not, the play was not there, and he's just,
Starting point is 00:39:48 he made the play, he chunked 10 or 11 yards here, there, all over the place. He was the best part of this offense. Anthony Richardson looks in next. The fact they were three points away from a win, when Richardson went 10 for 32 from the pocket. I thought for sure they were going to win when that fumble
Starting point is 00:40:03 recovery ran back for a touchdown, and on the field, I thought for sure they were going to win. When that fumble recovery ran back for a touchdown, and on the field I believe it was not blown dead at the fumble spot, on review they brought it back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But at that point it looked like the Colts were going to win, and Anthony Richardson was going to win another game he did not deserve to win. Anthony Richardson, we'll talk about him. I promise.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. Isaac Garindo, 14 for 85 in a touchdown Mason went out hurt most or two touchdowns not efficient on the ground but you know it says something that he's the goal line back there in Miami it does from a week to week standpoint
Starting point is 00:40:39 here we go wide receivers top five of the week CeeDee Lamb, Ladd McConkie, Cedric Tillman, Josh Downs. This feels like a magic trick to put up 20-plus points on 10 completions from your quarterback. Marvin Harrison, baby, number five. Nice to see.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Josh Downs, I think it's important for people listening that you've seen good stat lines from Josh Downs I think it's important for people listening that that you've seen good stat lines from Josh Downs for the majority of the time he's been playing and now you watch him with Anthony Richardson put up 20.2 and you're gonna say I need to start him you do not need to start him um his stat lines like his big bomb touchdown can you start I start? I think I would. Man. I'm willing now. Did you see the big bomb touchdown? It was basically a broken play where he was – yes, Anthony Richardson connected with him,
Starting point is 00:41:32 but he had half of the field to himself. Yeah, he did. He could have got a wheelchair out and wheeled himself in the last 20 yards. Here's the only reason why I said that is because they get to play the juiciest pass funnel defense in the National Football League this next week. I agree with you in principle on the year round. I think on a one week basis, you could go back to him. It was nine targets, right?
Starting point is 00:41:56 You can have a broken play, but nine targets against the number one pass funnel. He is a good player. Yeah. I mean, he's their best receiver by a lot. In my opinion. Yeah. I mean, he's their best receiver by a lot. In my opinion. Yeah, I mean, he can actually get downfield. Well, and he's just separation, constant separation.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Ladd McConkie, six for 111 and two. They're throwing the football a lot right now, and McConkie got it done, had a big touchdown, like a long one in this game. He's sitting at wide receiver 20. This is exciting because you have rookie wide receivers
Starting point is 00:42:34 that it normally takes time to get going, and if this team can't run like they want to, which they can't right now. Like J.K. Dobbins, he's not having a big play anymore right and uh so it means they're throwing the football a little bit their defense is giving up more points marvin harrison six for 111 and a touchdown hello and he just he caught his passes that was the big thing is like he's one of the keys it's it's super important but over the course of the season leading up to this he was like a 50%, maybe even below 50% catch rate.
Starting point is 00:43:07 He was out of sync with Kyler, and some of the catches that were in sync were just dropped. This game, I guess, I mean, he told himself he has to catch these because there were some difficult catches. It felt like, why does every Marvin Harrison catch have to be so hard? Look at superstar wide receivers around the league. They make those, but it doesn't have to be every catch. That being said, it is nice to see him have a big game,
Starting point is 00:43:33 catch passes, be more in sync. And so, you know, it's arrow up for a great rookie. If it wasn't for Malik Neighbors doing what he had done to start the season I don't you know and the draft cost of where you spent up for Marvin Harrison he's having a very good rookie season it just doesn't feel like it because of those other two factors and I think it's going to feel more like it soon Cardinals have a couple home games Marvin and him getting on the same page 15 targets 10 catches catches, 143. Who's that, Andy?
Starting point is 00:44:08 Woo! Superstar Calvin Ridley, everybody. With Mason Rudolph. You just had to get DeAndre Hopkins out of the locker room. That locker room cancer, DeAndre Hopkins. Look. This was a game for a couple seconds. I will dance while I can dance,
Starting point is 00:44:27 but 15 targets is going to get it done every single week. I can tell you that. You had 100 yards in the first quarter. It was really, in my heart, not a dance party. It was an exhale. Yeah. It was not a victory lap. It's one week. It was an exhale. Yeah. It was not a victory lap. It's one week.
Starting point is 00:44:45 It was an exhale because. Hey, it's possible. I didn't have to bring the name up as the second half sleeper, and I'm thankful that. Look, from my mentions, people did pick him up and play him. That was the cool thing to see is that some people benefited from this. They didn't just all have him on the bench. It was a week where a lot of wide receivers performed but this is important for the confidence
Starting point is 00:45:09 level of calvin ridley the 90 million dollar man on this team that got boat raced by detroit maybe calvin ridley will be consistent for you maybe without me i would say without hopkins there um just like we saw at the very beginning of the season where he was a heavier target, bright days are ahead for Calvin Ridley. It's all going to still come down to the quarterback play. And I don't know if Mason Rudolph, who started the game looking really, really good, this was a game where it was tied 14-14. I mean, it was like, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:45:43 What did it end? What was the final score? Are the Titans going to win this game? It was not 14-14. I mean, it was like, oh my gosh. What did it end? What was the final score? Are the Titans going to win this game? It was not 14-14. Well, it was 14-52. That's what I said at the end, yeah. I believe that the Lions had 40-plus points when Jared Goff had 30 passing yards.
Starting point is 00:46:00 For real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he was at 40. Did you not know the Goff line? I think he was at 40. Do you not know the Goff line? I think he was at 42 passing yards. Goff completed 12 passes for 85 yards. With 52 points. And three passing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Oh, yeah, those passing touchdowns were annoying because they used the you know where the Lions and we're going to run the football against the opposition and they were at the goal line multiple times and it was brock right it was sam laporta it was khalif raymond and they would just fake it to the montgomery gibbs who could have had even bigger games i forgot montgomery through one of the touchdowns that's true yes yes um davante smith big bounce back game. You know, Jason's been really loud in reminding you that he's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:46:55 There were people that, after one bad week, wanted to give up on Devontae Smith, which was wild. In half PPR, last week was terrible. Last week he had, you know, one catch. He did nothing. But outside of that single week, he hasn't been single digit fantasy points at all he's double digit or better than half ppr that's that's a great barometer he's literally on our consistency uh score on this he's an a so like don't move off of an a uh tight end studs this week kate otten 24. Looked great. It was a big week for the tight end. It was
Starting point is 00:47:27 Scott Hansen said it over 4,000 times during red zone that it was national tight end day. Scott Pianowski pointed out in week one, a 4-for-45 line would have made you the tight end 7 on the week. This week, that would have made you the tight end 24. That's how many big performances there were. Kyle
Starting point is 00:47:43 Pitts, 23.1 almost made the biggest one and a half touchdowns almost made the biggest mistake ever going into the end zone not almost he definitely did got lucky the mistake is that the uh multi-billion dollar corporation that is the nfl they can't possibly have a camera down the line just pointed down the sideline. What in the heck are you doing? What in the heck? Four.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Four cameras. Spinned up NFL. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Four? Four cameras. One from each direction on the side. You know where the goal line is. It's not moving. You can tripod this thing.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Where's the other two cameras? I'm saying each goal line, you can have them going down the line in both directions. Yeah. At the end of your camera. You think we were suggesting only pick one of the end zones? No, I'm saying it's not even good enough. Only the north side. Because they only put a camera, even when they have the goal line camera, they only have it on
Starting point is 00:48:38 one side of the field. I want every time I look at the goal line down the line angle, I want to see a camera on the other side. They should have lasers on the cameras. Yes. And they should have the high speed ones that they use. And what's the TV show where they just test stuff all the
Starting point is 00:48:54 time? Mythbusters. Mythbusters. Give me high speed, high resolution. Get Nolan out here to film. Christopher? Yeah, get him to film the goal. I mean, we have lots of money. You guys can spend. We've been in headquarters.
Starting point is 00:49:11 You got bidets on every toilet. Oh, my gosh. You're NFL headquarters. You're doing great work there. Outstanding property. The ATMs there don't require a pin code. You're just like, hey, you need some money? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Go buy some cameras. Four per stadium. Kyle Pitts has been great. He has. He was already the tight end four before this week. George Kittle keeps getting it done. Kelsey, the big game, super glad it was against me finally. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Trey McBride. Can we get Trey McBride a touchdown? He was awesome in this game. For crying out loud. No, we cannot. He was awesome. He was a go-to target. 11 targets, 9 for 124. Absolutely outstanding game. Maybe the best performance of the week, except no touchdowns. The dude is currently, at least what I'm seeing here, he's missed a game. So some teams have had a bye week, but he has played seven games, zero touchdowns, and is the tight end four on the season. Just give him a couple.
Starting point is 00:50:12 He would be crushing everybody. He's definitely third in the packing order around the red zone right now because Connor, they like to hand the ball up, and then Harrison. But he's going to get in there. Michael Wilson got hurt this week. It didn't look great to me. Could have been a multi-week ankle sprain. I don't have an update there, but the tight ends got it done. We got to take a break and get into the duds. Breaking news, by the way, McBride still didn't get into the end zone over the break.
Starting point is 00:50:44 No, he didn't. But before you move on, you have to read the name that's right after Trey McBride in the dock. I knew you weren't letting him move on. No, absolutely not. Four for 85 and a touchdown? Oh, he took advantage of the injury to the starter. Adam Troutman.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah, baby! Woo! Yeah, they did. Four years too early. I believe Kroll, Lucas Kroll went out hurt. Lucas Kroll had been getting some snaps. Yeah, but he's not putting up four for 85 in his score. Against Carolina.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Unleash the fish, man. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to take a walk. All right. Very funny. Also, on the course of the season prior to this game, he had a 17-game pace of 77 yards. Well, he beat that in one game now, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:51:33 Okay. He sure did. Pooped in his big boy pants. Look, this could not have been more appropriate for Caleb Williams. The big boy pants had been fitted, and he went out there and had a stinker of a game against Washington. 10 for 24, 131 yards. It was a regression type of game.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Washington's defense, though. That's the question. We mentioned this. That's the question. I mean, they have been getting 5% better per week. They might have gone 10% better in this game. You know, he was not leading drives, not getting first downs. It was 33 passing yards in the first half.
Starting point is 00:52:15 What was crazy, so the drive to take the lead and win, he looked pretty good. It was like the only time in the entire game he looked. Most of his stats came from that. I think it was was like fourth quarter and we were talking about how he had three completions complete like what that seems impossible it was a it was a putrid game for him um and so the nice thing is we've seen the flashes of brilliance we've seen great games put together um I know it's really really tough because a lot of people started him in this matchup you expected that high over under and instead this game was so important uh between caleb and jayden the defense has stepped up and it was a it was a slugfest joe burrow without t higgins uh solid start to the game and then it went south quickly. He only ended up with 234-1. CJ Stroud,
Starting point is 00:53:06 one touchdown, 285 yards. What do you do now? Like, well, now you've lost bigs. Next week is on the road against the Jets. There will be no Nico, which we've heard Nico's on track for week 10. Have people been playing Stroud?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Of course people have been playing Stroud. I had him as a start of the week this week against indy where he you know against indy early in the season he was the quarterback eight i mean this is this is um this is not a player that's been consistent at all going back to last year for fantasy i mean he's an f in our consistency ranking he has two games you've been happy with this year both with nico yeah i don't think weeks one and four you've got happy with this year, both with Nico in weeks one and four, you've got to push him to the side right now. I agree. I don't think you can start him right now, especially this week. You look at him as a streaming
Starting point is 00:53:51 option, but this week without Stephon Diggs, without Nico Collins, you put Sauce Gardner on Tank Dell by himself, and all of a sudden, that's a matchup you don't want to play. And don't forget they have the slowest player in the NFL not contributing on a weekly basis. Dalton Schultz, what's up?
Starting point is 00:54:07 I can say anything I want about him by the way because he can't catch me. On the web version of Sleeper, I see numbers of CJ Stroud is 98% rostered and 79% started. Yeah, that's 79% too many.
Starting point is 00:54:24 I'm just saying like next week is a bench-fresh. Here's a hot tip. Don't start somebody from that division. Just don't start them at quarterback. Everybody in the division should not be starting at quarterback. I've got a better question for you. Rest of season. Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:54:39 No, that's easy. I'm making it hard. C.J. Stroud or Patrick Mahomes? Mahomes. Yeah, I'd take Mahomes. My stream of the week, by the way. I'm making it hard. CJ Stroud or Patrick Mahomes? Mahomes. Yeah, I'd take Mahomes. My stream of the week, by the way. That's not hard. Superstar Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:54:50 No, that's not hard for me. He's been so bad. I mean, if Nico comes back, Stroud will be better. But look, this team, they won the game. They have Joe Mixon. They are a running football team. Joe Mixon has been a top five running back. Every week he started.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Joe Mixon is the running back two in points per game just behind Derrick Henry. Anthony Richardson, 10 for 32, passing. 31% completion rate, huh? Yeah, and you need to be 60 plus percent to be a top 10 fantasy quarterback. He's almost there. He's at 31 percent his efficiency and performance at the position he by the way he took a playoff because he was tired in this game that was unbelievable unbelievable to me that afterwards Anthony Richardson came out and they
Starting point is 00:55:38 asked like you know because he he he missed a play and we thought maybe he hurt himself on a run he said he he called himself out and told coach he's tired he needs a play, and we thought maybe he hurt himself on a run. He said he called himself out and told the coach he's tired. He needs a play. You're a quarterback. You see Lamar Jackson after a big, long run being like, I need a breather. Give me a freaking break. This is the biggest quarterback bust in the league.
Starting point is 00:56:00 This is the biggest dynasty freakout that you're ever going to have. This is a quarterback that has been outside of the top 20 at the position five straight weeks. He ranks two. Look, he has two good passes on the year. They were both in week one. That's my opinion on Anthony Richardson. Hitting downs this week was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Meaningful for fantasy. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the downs play, yes. You're right. You're right. Anthony Richardson ranks 222nd in completion. Let me write this down.
Starting point is 00:56:27 222. 222 out of 225 quarterbacks that have 250-plus dropbacks since the year 2000. You cannot. Has your opinion changed on the debate? Because you say you have to develop Anthony Richardson. Now, that can be done on the field, but that would be the argument for every player that's played too soon in history. Yes, my opinion has changed.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You develop him on the side. Because, yeah, 44% completion percentage cannot be a starting quarterback. That's what he is, by the way. And here's what you do. You don't develop him with, you know, you're not watching film and breaking that down as as
Starting point is 00:57:06 much as maybe you need what i would do is get him target practice i just put him i'd build a field over to the side where you can take snaps and hit a target with like and i genuinely i'd love to see him succeed his physical gifts and tools are amazing i'm'm not trying to... My agenda here is not to talk ill of this person forever. I hope he can develop, but he wasn't ready to be a quarterback. Mike, during the draft season, we talked about him as a prospect.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I hated it. There's just some basic lines you have to cross to be able to stay quarterback in the NFL. And a 44% completion percentage, it doesn't matter how much you run. We've seen this now. Justin Fields has lost his job in two places. Justin Fields can run the football, right?
Starting point is 00:57:54 Deshaun Kaiser could run the football. There were players that are mobile, but, I mean, he is one spot ahead of Tim Tebow on that list. Tim Tebow was 223. Oh, that's not even a joke. You're saying that as a factual, real thing. Out of 225. Hey, Tim Tebow won games, won a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, and Richardson can win a game with one big play and running the football. Jeremy brings up a good point here. Jaden's VR. Jaden Daniels uses VR to practice, yeah. Are other people – are they just really loud about it and other people are doing it? Or they're the only team – like, obviously, it's not just the VR. But you can't rule out that this thing is helping.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I'm not sure the VR is going to fix the mechanics. It'll fix processing, but I don't think it's going to fix your mechanics. Processing, I think, is the hardest thing to fix, though. Being able to read the defense really fast. What about throwing the ball to that spot over there? That's something that I think you can actually – good coaches can fix that, where processing is – I thought accuracy was not the thing that you can fix.
Starting point is 00:59:06 That's been the story with Josh Allen. So wildly surprising in Lamar Jackson's. It's extremely difficult to fix it. But I don't know. I don't know enough about quarterback play to tell you what like read what Richard is doing. And this is what's wrong. What if he just after practice goes Dave and busters,
Starting point is 00:59:24 it just works on the little machine where it's got the holes. Those are tiny footballs. And this is what Richard is doing, and this is what's wrong. Well, if he just, after practice, goes Dave and Busters, and just works on the little machine where it's got the holes. Those are tiny footballs. You need a machine like that, but it's the big. He can bring his own. It's a duke. He can bring his own footballs. It would break the machine. It would not matter.
Starting point is 00:59:37 He could break the machine with the small ones. I did ruminate on something. You know how we've had these discussions about the scripted plays and the jokes about why don't we script more? I think I finally figured out, and this is not rocket science here, but I figured out why they can't do that. They can't practice enough. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Because the script is not what I've written down on a piece of paper. It's what I've practiced. They go out there and they execute the 20 plays or the 15 plays because that's all they have time. They don't let them practice that much. You know what I would do then? I'd run those 20 plays again. No, just repeat it.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Just start to be like, all right, we're going back to the beginning. Until they catch on. Five, six, seven, eight. Snake draft it. Just do the plays in reverse order on the way back. Exactly. Just flip them all. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Do the same thing, but now mirror it. Audible, right trigger, and then you the way back. Exactly. Just flip them all. You know what I mean? Do the same thing, but now mirror it. Audible, right trigger, and then you hit the mirror. Geno had a horrible game. It was not going to be good without DK. We knew it. This was predictable. We said it. Buffalo's good defense.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Also, a lot of bit rain in that game, so throw that one out. Do we have a boo button? Because I've not seen a stat line this bad. Kenneth. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No bone no, no, no, no, no. No bone zone, baby. Nine for 12.
Starting point is 01:00:47 It was terrible. No. He did the right thing on a play where the center snapped the ball way over Gino's head. Way over. It was like 30 yards or so. Right. Kenneth Walker has to be the one to go pick it up and he gains.
Starting point is 01:01:02 He gets 10 yards back. Right. Oh, but he lost like 20 but on the play it's a negative 19 yard run nine carries though yeah so here's here's what else did we not read the no bone zone no here here's what happened in this game so yes mike is right he got a negative 20 yard play where he had a good play he picked up extra yards and it just counted against him so that that stinks. What else happened is this game got out of hand
Starting point is 01:01:28 pretty quickly and later in the game they just went to sharpening. They charbed it up and they said you're going to be healthy for the next game. I was playing against Kenneth Walker in two leagues. I was paying very close attention and they just said yeah don't worry about
Starting point is 01:01:43 it. Take the rest of the game off well look it was disappointing because he had some opportunities around the bone zone giovante williams did two five targets four catches for eight yards he had two carries inside the five for negative one yards against carolina what do we do with this information i don't know i i thought we were trending to a place that we could be... Like trustworthy? Yeah, we could be okay going with Javante, but this was...
Starting point is 01:02:11 It was weird. There was so much play action. I know by the end, Javante got 17 carries. We'll absolutely take what he got, 17 and five targets, but they kept play actioning. I mean, they were really featuring bo nicks oh breaking news what do we got i just wanted people to know that the falcon showed up to work
Starting point is 01:02:33 today oh no they know look at that over it's more of a he's still at yeah he's still at work they know he's usually showing up you got coffee in that mug? Yep. Okay. Well, oh, you're sweating. He's like, he's like, this show's running long guys. I'm on a timer. Let's wrap this up. Um,
Starting point is 01:02:52 wide receiver duds, tight end duds. We'll run through them real quick. Um, in the, uh, the whirlpool of New York, Devante Adams,
Starting point is 01:03:00 four for 54. Dude, it's, that's pretty wild here. 30 yards in the first week, 54 in this particular week. And do you guys know who the wide receiver five on the season is right now? Is that Garrett Wilson? Garrett Wilson.
Starting point is 01:03:20 He has certainly been, even if you look at expected fantasy points since Devontae Adams has showed up, he has been been uh even if you look at expected fantasy points since davante has showed up he has been the primary he's been the one and adams has been being worked into the two i don't know if that's going to stay for the full season um but honestly i mean there's been a couple plays where adams and and rogers seem strangely out of sync i think ro Rodgers is... Do you think he plays football for them next year? Yeah. I don't know. I haven't thought about that one.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Jalen Waddell, just 4 for 45. Yeah, that's a big bummer. Amari Cooper, just 1 for 3. Where Keon Coleman was great. Keon Coleman was awesome. He made some amazing plays. And then Khalil Shakir is just – he reminds me of what Cole Beasley was doing for them a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:04:09 He is just a release valve. I don't like the way that they call this offense for Dalton Kincaid. The plays that Kincaid's involved in are never high-value plays. But Shakir gets the PPR points. Coleman's been getting the contested catch points. He deserves a ton of credit because we were pretty hard on him to start the year, but he almost had another big one down the sideline too. He could have caught.
Starting point is 01:04:31 He's been good. Coleman was great in this game, and the targets were early and often because the Bills didn't run or didn't throw a lot later in the game. But, you know, the first two drives was like Keon Coleman, Keon Coleman, Keon Coleman. He was the number one read. A couple players we hoped for more from. Cole Komet, just one target.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I'm going to correlate the lack of Komet involvement to the lack of completion percentage for Caleb Williams. That's a bad game plan. Yeah, I mean, you could throw in DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, everybody. That's fair, but one target, though. Gross. Jake Ferguson, eight targets, just six for 23. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:05:12 They're dysfunctional, man. At the beginning of the show, there were so many plays where it was, he had time. Like, his deck is moving around the pocket for what I think is a very fair, adequate amount of time, and then it's just check it down to Ferguson, who's in the flat. Yeah. And he gets immediately hit.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Something's weird, man. Yeah. Something's weird there and in New York. Tomorrow we've got waivers and streaming quarterback options on Wednesday. Hungry for more. The Thursday night preview. And Thursday. Thursday's Halloween.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Are we still doing that? I think so. I think so. I mean, we do have some updated news here. Brian Thomas Jr. could miss two to four weeks with a chest rib injury. Suffered on Sunday. And Christian Kirk's out for the season. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Gee whiz, man. I guess we'll talk about that on the waiver show tomorrow. But that's a bummer for Brian Thomas. He's been playing some great football. So that'll do it. We'll let the Falcon get to his business, his real business. And we'll be back with you tomorrow.
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