Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 8 Studs & Duds + Reactions & Breaking News! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/30

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Week 8 recap and breaking news on today’s fantasy football podcast! Find out which studly performances stand out the most and which duds are the spookiest going forward! Plus, injury news, and the Week 8 edition of Monday Punday. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for October 30th, 2023. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast for Monday, October 30th. Woo! Woo! We're getting ready. Almost time. Halloween show tomorrow. We have some special stuff in store. It should be fun.

You excited for that one, Andy? Not really. Oh, what? I mean, I'm excited for the listeners and watchers, I guess, to enjoy what's going to happen. But do you regret your choice? Yes, I regret my choice because my choice, I mean, obviously I put a lot into the show and I'm willing to sacrifice for the greater good,

and that's why I'm doing it. You're really the champion of that for the three of us. Yeah, I mean, many times that's been evident. Me and Jason would look up to you. Oh, man. Much reverence, such esteem. Yeah. Such esteem, Andy.

What a guy. Some costumes cost a lot. Not money. What did it cost? Everything. But time, and you just can't get some things back. Yeah. I look forward to your sacrifice.

Is that not a good tease or what? I mean, make sure you go to YouTube, youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers, and you'll enjoy it tomorrow. Subscribe, click the bell. 12,000 of you tuned in for Sunday Live to do the late morning dance. There was some good, some bad. There's some wild things that happened this week, and we're going to talk about it week seven.

Still got a Monday Night Football game. And there's nothing quite like counting on the Raiders. Yeah, that voice was just me, white knuckle waiting until the end of that game to be over. I need Amon Ra to not get to 19 points. Well, I need Jared Goff to not go 34 points. Okay. Which I believe he has done a couple times already.

Now, is he not your quarterback? There's League of Record, then there's the main dynasty. League of Record, locked up, bros. But the dynasty, I am against Jared Goff. 34, huh? It's right around there. So if he goes crazy with Amon Ra, you too. Oh, yeah.

Solo Halloween show. You'll be looking good, though. I don't agree with that. I will not be looking good tomorrow or the rest of the week. Let's put it that way. You know, I wish I would have timed it up better with leaving for a few days. You know what I mean? I mean, sure.

We've got to do Halloween on a Friday next year, maybe. We'll talk to some people. We've got some pull. We can move national holidays. You guys want to react to the week? Let's go. We've got Monday Pundit. Let's start with the good.

Yeah. Like CD Lamborghini. CD's points. Oh, how about Dak Imprescott? Oh, like impressive? Yeah. That's a good one. DeAndre Hop wins. Oh, how about Dak Imprescott? Oh, like impressive? Yeah. That's a good one.

DeAndre Hopwins. Ooh, DeAndre Hat Trick. Or Trey My Bride. I don't even know. What? No, you sold it. You did it well. Why don't you take a ride on the magic school, Gus?

Wynne Levis? Yes, yes. Ooh-wee. But also sad with... It back alexander sadison what about crap trick mahomes yeah get him tanked dell chris no lave oh man he's hmm cooper yuck oh and puke nakua or how about romandre steven sucks's my favorite one. My favorite one when I read through them. I hadn't seen it. This is the best, Mike. You should never preview these.

Like Tony Poolard. Yeah, Tiny Pollard. All right. Steven Sucks? Ramondre Steven Sucks. Right on the nose, man. Right on the nose. Sometimes it's almost too easy.

Remember, these are all. That fruit is on the ground. It's not even on the nose, man. Right on the nose. Sometimes it's almost too easy. Remember, these are all. That fruit is on the ground. It's not even on the tree. It's not even hanging. Yeah. It's just low fruit. Well, those all, you know, Foot Clan submissions. Thank you.

Those came in from Instagram at Fantasy Footballers and from Twitter. All right. Sorry. The artist formerly known as Twitter. Nice. At the FFBallers. And, you know, it's a cathartic way to deal with the weak and the good and the bad. I saw a lot of negative, but, I mean, we had some good in there too.

There was a lot of points yesterday. There were a lot of points. I am going to lose both of my major leagues with sufficient point totals to have a victory. And that is, well, that's fantasy football, isn't it? I commented and saw so many people reacting to the fact that last week I had 77 points dropped on me by Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. This week that combo combined for 16 total points between Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and so yeah

because you all should have known play the Denver defense like this guy oh man that's right in your I forgot about that as your defense in DraftKings yeah it was wow stone cold minimum that was the one place I won this week is I won the prize of not being the wheel of shame. Did you, Jay? I did not, but it's all right. It's all right. I got wins just about everywhere else. So long as I'm in rock, don't suck it.

19 points. Don't do it. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the leagueented by USAA Insurance. Speaking of Amin Ra, St. Brown added to the injury report on Sunday with an illness. Questionable for Monday Night Football. That was what doomed Patrick Mahomes.

It feels like there's like a Pat Sick... No. Pat Sick Mahomes? Yeah, that works. He didn't... The Denver defense has been better. Yes. Not just this week. They've been better for a while now.

And it's tough because you still see them on the schedule and you slam play everybody against them. But this is why on our website, if you go to the Foot Clan tools, we added like last five, last three, last seven in terms of being able to filter the consistency charts and our stream finder tools because, you know, one 70-point matchup against the Dolphins literally will define the entire year if you're only viewing in that broad view.

So it is, yeah, they've been a lot better, and they pretty much dominated the Kansas City Chiefs. First road divisional loss for Patrick Mahomes ever, which doesn't make sense that he could have been 16-0 on the road in division, but he was. It only took the flu and 20-degree weather to finally slow him down. Which is a wonderful combination. I like being out in the freezing cold when I have the flu and 20-degree weather to finally slow him down. Which is a wonderful combination.

I like being out in the freezing cold when I have the flu. Dude, I cannot imagine. I was talking on Sunday Live, and it's like when you're at home and you have the flu, and you've got to go downstairs. Too much. No. That place doesn't exist anymore. I am in this space and this space alone.

And then this guy's like, no, I'm gonna go play football. And I feel real bad today. Oh, he probably feels terrible because he's a loser. Two thousand nine hundred and sixty four days for the Broncos. Wow. Kirk Cousins. Oh, that's major, major news tore his Achilles. The Vikings are 4-4.

They had a cupcake schedule coming up. They would have been in the mix. In fact, they're in the playoffs right now. Yeah. And so, you know, there's going to be rumors about them trading for a quarterback before tomorrow, which is our deadline. It seems more likely that they try to survive while Nick Mullins returns because Nick Mullins is going to be their guy.

Now, right now they have a fifth-round rookie, Jaron Hall, and they have Sean Mannion who, I mean, I'd rather go down with the rookie than Sean Mannion. And Nick Mullins is eligible to return week 10. So it's more, I mean, that's the most likely outcome, but this is not just a huge blow for the Vikings fans. This is a huge blow for Jordan Addison managers.

A huge blow for Justin Jefferson managers. This is what you feared at the end of the year. One of the reasons why dynasty questions around Addison versus Flowers or Addison versus JSN, like quarterback question marks. You just don't know what you're going to get. Yeah, you know, JSN, like quarterback question marks. You just don't know what you're going to get.

Yeah, you expect it to be much more difficult for the Vikings to have victories, which makes it less likely that Jefferson comes back quickly, Hawkinson. I mean, everybody across the board just takes a massive blow. Like, you're going to start Hawkinson next week because he's a tight end and you don't have any choices. And outside of him, I'm terrified. Like, Addison will be on my bench even though he's great. It just stinks.

They were second in pass rate, third in total passes per game, and that is just plain not going to be the case moving forward. They can't do that. And Cam Akers, you know, didn't have a really good game, got into the end zone. Madison was saddest in, but both those guys are going to get more run, I think. Yep. Do you agree with that?

No, I agree. They will have to. They will have to lean on the run game. And there was, you know, a stint in there where they were really having success with Madison, you know, being just like a type of a grinder. And long-term, this is really brutal. You know, I believe this is Cousins' final year of guaranteed money.

I think the deal is like technically some void years, but he will have to re-sign, and he will be re-s he will be resigning while recovering. Or maybe we look over at what Aaron Rodgers is doing because each week we get more and more video of him on the field. Now he's moving. Walking around, throwing a football. So maybe Aaron Rodgers and all of his personal research, he found something that worked.

The truth is, if you really dig into that situation, there's a lot of attention given to the alternate science and all of that stuff. The truth is he went to the foremost leader in Achilles surgery in the world where Kobe went to have his faster recovery and where they're pioneering some techniques to heal faster. And he's putting in all the effort and whatever secret serums or whatever. He's putting in all the effort to get back. And look, when I see him moving around, I'm like, please don't.

I'm like, oh my gosh, you're going're gonna hurt yourself that's what I keep thinking I do think there's a chance they will look around or at backup quarterbacks and it's like could you get Jacoby Brissett for relatively cost efficient because looking at the Vikings here's what the defense has done the past five weeks 10 points allowed by green bay 17 to san francisco 13 to chicago 27 to kansas city which it's the chase hey that ain't too bad that's not too bad against a a healthy patrick mahomes 13 points to the carolina panthers i mean this isn't just atlanta beatable new orleans beatable denver beatable chicago beatable. New Orleans, beatable. Denver, beatable. Chicago, beatable. Raiders, beatable. They are in the division. The defense is playing much, much better.

This is a team that if things bounce in the right direction, they have a chance in the playoffs. So it's probably Mullins. I agree with that. But it wouldn't shock me that they're going to peek around. I would have brought up Heineke's name, but he had to take over this past weekend. I would have brought up Tannehill's name. but he's recovering from injury so you're like, is this guy going to get back to help you? Matthew Stafford also injured his right thumb in the loss to the Cowboys. The team is

not ruling out IR for Matthew Stafford and this was the red alert to start the year. This was the, before Cup hurt himself, it was why Cup is a risk yeah and this would be more devastating to puka nakua than it would be cooper cup and it would be devastating to both but there is just something about matthew stafford running this offense them finding the places in the zone i mean he might not be able to grip the football. Yeah, I mean, this is very similar to the Viking situation where in the meantime, while Stafford is away, it is going to be very difficult to trust any receiving options there whatsoever.

They have their bye week in two weeks. So it makes sense if he doesn't go on ir you're still not going to have basically you know like if you've got puka no you don't not for a couple weeks right yeah and and i saw another pun was cooper a couple bad games in a row i mean it was yeah it's been um a challenge so i saw a puke in the cup puke in the Yeah, because they both had a down week. Super gross. Super gross. Yeah, yeah.

Kenny Pickett left the game against the Jags with a rib injury. Looks like he'll be a game-time decision next week, potentially. And, you know, Mike Tomlin said the door is ajar for Pickett to play. That's nice. That offense did not look good. Nope. Drake London exited with a groin injury. Desmond Ritter, concussion, checked for it.

Cleared protocol, did not return. Yeah. Jonathan Gannon said Josh Dobbs. So let's talk about this, Mike. I want your take because instantaneously the Cardinals head coach John Gannon said that Josh Dobbs is starting in week nine. Yeah, it's I think there's

funny business going on. Do you? Oh, really? You think that he's that he's just bluffing? I just think that, no, no, no. I think there's no chance Kyler starts, but I think that there's a chance Kyler just stays on puck. Like this season is now, they have the number one pick right now. And there's a huge risk financially to letting Kyler Murray play

because if he gets injured again, tons of guarantees come into play. Okay, I got you. And it's weird to me. Like, sure, maybe he didn't like the questions from the press conferences all week long and just didn't want to deal with them, so he just rules them out. But that means that he's ruled out. That means that the team knew going into this week he would be ruled out for next week, even though heading into this week it was,

we'll see if he plays on Sunday. So there's something behind the scenes that this team knows that we don't know because there's no reason to rule him out immediately after the game unless you knew it earlier in the week, which you could have told us. have told us there's I mean he as evidence of the beginning of the season Gannon thinks that there is some game like he's playing gamesmanship stuff so he was why isn't he doing it this week I get it but I maybe he's just tired of it and they knew I mean the plan that we had heard before all of this like rush of optimism was the optimism was coming from mostly our side I know he was being coy of like well we'll see if he plays this weekend but in Arizona everything we were hearing was the of they're going to take

the time he won't play this past week he's not going to play the next week, but then he should be back after that. I get that there is huge implications for the team in terms of Murray's contract, but I'm believing them that Kyler, even if they have the first overall pick, Kyler's their guy, and then they will just use the first overall pick to cash out and do a huge, get a ton of first-round assets. Because Caleb Williams is going to be – he will draw a ton in a trade. It's almost even more valuable for the Cardinals to – like in dynasty football, we always say a player, a known player,

is often worth more than the first-round pick because the first-round pick could suck even though it seems like they're locked in. Nope, there's a chance they're bad. So why not go with Kyler, rebuild the team real quick with that first overall pick? Yeah, I don't think he's getting traded. And I just think that when you look at the strategy of the team, fantasy players need to know that like from a strategy standpoint that is better that the cardinals don't risk their future quarterback and get the first pick yeah i mean they're going to lose to the browns next week

yep i i think kyler's back the following week against the falcons yeah uh yeah that would be that would be the one to target and he did come out and talk about that game and said he's not willing to commit to anything yet. Tyrod Taylor exited the game, rib injury. Yeah, he had to go to hospital, man. Yeah, the good news this morning, Daniel Jones cleared for contact. He'll be back at quarterback. If you watched, you could actually see the moment he was cleared for contact

was the moment that Tyrod got bused to the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. They're not linked. When he was cleared off the field by some contact. Yeah. And then Tommy, a.k.a. Danny DeVito, came in and had negative pass yards. Yeah, because he swung it behind the line of scrimmage to Saquon every play.

I mean, Saquon had 36 carries in the game. He had three receptions for zero yards, which was really cool. Hey, that's three points of PPR. Daniel Jones coming back is huge. The defense, I mean, I brought this up last week. The Giants defense is playing at an elite level. The Giants should have won the game. They should have won the game with, listen,

seven total passing yards for the Giants in the game. They had seven passing yards in the game. Darren Waller got hurt. Immediately. And this is a problem. Like, Darren Waller could be heading to IR for all we know at this point. So, Daniel Jones, come on back. I mean, give Wandale and Saquon a chance in this offense.

I don't like, you know, we talk about when you have a small pie and you have to split it up a couple ways. Splitting up seven yards is... You can't split seven into a piece that would give you any sustenance. I would have to verify it, but I think Darren Waller was the leading receiver because he technically had four receiving yards. Impressive. There's no way he's not. That's the majority

of the yards. This is where you could throw out those fantasy stats like Darren Waller over the last week, more than 50% of the team's yards. I can't wait to see. I'm going to see that one on Twitter today. That's a fun stat. Or I'm going to see it to justify starting him in a couple weeks.

What else is going on? We have Curtis Samuel injured. Kendrick Bourne out for the year, torn ACL, had a touchdown in the game. If you look at the snaps in New England, suddenly now Demario Douglas is in play and redraft because he's playing almost every snap. Believe Juju did not come into the game until after the Bourne injury. And Devontae Parker left early with a concussion and was like one of the guys not getting snaps anyways.

Tyquan Thornton was a healthy inactive. Like Demario has moved into pole position at this point. For sure. He is the number one. Devontae Parker played 43% of snaps. Jalen Rager, 58% of snaps. Demario Douglas, 77% of snaps. He is their main guy.

He led in targets. He led in receiving yards. He led in snaps. And this has been a constant for them. We've talked about it in the Waver Wire episode, I think the last two weeks, as a name to pay attention to. We were talking about it in Dynasty, but you're right. This is redraft now.

He should be a decent start. Will Levis is going to start Thursday night against the Steelers, so we're going to get to see him in primetime. Which? Dude. Good work. Bananaremma. Will Levis made us all look real real dumb he made the nfl look

dumb it's only one game but he made his team look dumb forever for not giving him a shot sooner third third quarterback in history to have four passing touchdowns in their first game listen he he played he balled out i tried very hard this morning to find anybody in the pop culture world that screamed the words Bananarama so that I could have a drop for the show, which I'm going to put this out there to the footland. Find me something. Well, it's the band. But that's what I was going to say.

All that kept coming back was these three ladies from Bananarama. It's a cruel summer, baby. Cruel summer, which maybe that's the drop. I don't know. We got to work this out. If Will Levis starts turning it up, we've got to bring Bananarama back. But the performance and the throws. I mean, the throws were especially that back corner little whip,

drop it into the bucket. Yeah. I mean, just. One game. But that was very exciting. My favorite part was when everybody said, thanks a lot for telling us not to start Hopkins. Yeah, I mean, the process.

The process was going to be Malik Willis and Will Leavitt. Yeah, I don't blame anyone for having Hopkins on your bench. What we didn't factor in to the process was Arthur Smith and his disdain for fantasy football and he knew we were everyone in the world was starting the atlanta falcons dst and so he made sure that we all looked foolish yet again because he hates us arthur smith also had uh tied in to Johnny Smith. Toss a pass. That play was a clown show. Yeah.

What was that? All right. That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Let's take a break. Come back with some studs. You know, you know,

uh, we'll jump in here momentarily. I will say this, like there, our job on this show is to give you all the information, tell you the decisions we're making, get you prepared. Tell you what,

this weekend, if I was facing my homes kelsey i would have been terrified if i was facing deandre hopkins i would have been overjoyed and i would have uh inverted that into the pain and suffering that those that did face hopkins had to endure i mean the fantasy is wild and it's because the the NFL is. I mean, you can have a team lose and give up 70 points, and you can have them come back and beat the Super Bowl champions a few weeks later. Yeah, that game is the most indicative of the parity in the NFL. Yes. I mean, you want to talk about, like, what are those pools?

What, a survivor pool? Yeah. Oh, doom. Get wrecked. Yeah, I mean, it's true. All, like, what are those pools? What, Survivor Pool? Yeah. Oh, Doom. Get wrecked. Yeah, I mean, it's true. All right, let's talk studs. This week's Fantasy Stud Muffins. Go ahead, Jay.

I mean, if Sam Howe could play the Philadelphia Eagles every week, you would be in great shape because those – I mean, number one overall this week, put up 290 against them in week four on the road. That was nothing. That was peanuts. I mean, the sack leader in the NFL is on pace for 4,500 yards, 28 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, 87 sacks but big game for sam hell and uh tough one to start because you just you feel like it is pure roulette with hell it's the uh but it's not it's not roulette

where there's like five five empty spots and one bullet like there's three bullets and three empty spots yeah yeah it's a it's a it's a a 50%. But you know that he has this kind of upside. He has great weapons. I think in the right matchup, you can throw him in there. I mean, 397 yards, four passing touchdowns. And some of the – I mean, there was a pass that just looked – it was one of the best passes I've seen in weeks, one of his touchdowns. Did it go to Jahan Dotson, superstar?

The 8 for 108 and a touchdown? What in the heck? What in the? Sam Hills. I was going to say. Dotson. Dotson. We've got Dotson here.

Yeah, we have him in week eight. The fact that you had nearly 400 passing yards and you utilized your first round wide receiver. That's not a coincidence. I mean, who will never know? We will never know. I don't know if life is back in the Jahan Dotson universe, but over the last two weeks, he's on pace for 153 targets. He had eight and then 10.

What in the world? Why do you do this to us? Fantasy football. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts. We talked about Will Levis. That performance was awesome. But I want to talk about

Dak. Dak was 25 for 31, 304 and four. He could have thrown a couple more if he wanted to. The game was out of hand. They could do no wrong. I mean, the Dallas Cowboys looked so prepared and the connection between CeeDee Lamb and Dak

Prescott is on fire right now. I almost traded for CeeDee Lamb last week. Because it just seemed like after the bye, this team would figure out the things that work a little bit better. Dak was brought up in hungry for more by Mike, I believe. My second half sleeper.

Second half sleeper. Yeah, I mean, talking about the schedule, plays Philly. Sam Hale just eviscerated. Then a tougher matchup against the Giants, but then you've got Carolina. Like the second half for Dak is very good. And they're not, I mean, to be fair, you've got Carolina. The second half for Dak is very good. To be fair, Tony Pullard,

they aren't running the ball well. Tony Pollard has over 120 carries without a touchdown in a row or touches without a touchdown. Justin Herbert, monster game against Chicago. I think he started 15 for 15 in that game. Did it with a banged up Joshua Palmer.

Huge, huge looked okay. Yeah. I think he had 50 yards caught most of his. Did he look okay to you? Yeah. He looked relative to pre previous. Yes. I mean, I'm not saying he looked like a superstar, but he was.

Would you start him if Joshua Palmer was out? Yeah, he was 5 for 50. Yeah, 5 for 50 on six targets, I think. Yes. Plays the Jets next week on the road. Yeah, no thank you. It was a huge game by his standards. Right.

Tua, pretty good game for Tua against New England, who had held him in check in the earlier part of the year. Plays Kansas City in Germany next week. Mm-hmm. Bonjour. A nice early morning game. Mike, you're quarterback, you know? Yeah, I did just – Andy and I made a trade.

We made a trade in part because I picked Dak up off of waivers, and I decided, you know what? I should have picked up Dak. Did you not know this? You knew that trade happened this morning. I did not. No, I traded him Pacheco, too. Oh.

I'm in. All right. I guess you're buying. Yep. Running backs. The Gus bus got it done. Beep, beep. I mean, I could hit that three times.

Three touchdowns against Arizona start of the week. Got it done at the expense of Zay Flowers and Lamar. But the Gus bus handling it. He's averaging 17 opportunities per game, and he's the RB6 and RB1 the last two weeks. And I can tell you right here that Papa Josh would not have a victory this week without the Gus bus. Absolutely.

Also, Lamar Jackson, tap pass. Look into it. Okay. Okay. Just say, look, if I'm at the goal line too, I would love to have Gus Edwards because I think that he's a great goal linebacker. He's a beast of a man. But just, you know.

Look into the tap pass. They need to learn how to do the tap pass. On a regular handoff? On a regular handoff. Like, wait until he's ahead of you. Oh, you do the behind the bat. The running back gets behind, like, puts his hands behind you. Oh.

So that way you can kind of talk. I mean, you've got to learn how to catch it backwards. Yeah, that's pretty tough. What if you just, like, toss it over your shoulder? Oh, no, that's a lateral still. Yeah. It has to be a forward pass. We can figure this out.

What if you take the shotgun snap 20 yards back, like a punter, and then throw it to your running back standing in his normal spot? Yeah. We figured it out. If you did that, that throw is still negative yards. It's a negative three-yard throw, isn't it? Yes. But it would be forward. If throw, isn't it? Correct. Yes. But it would be forward.

If they were tackled right there, then yes. All right, Christian McCaffrey. Oh, he's so good. At this point, what's nice is he has a touchdown in 17 straight games. Unstoppable. But he breaks the record with 18, so you know. Oh, for sure. They're going to go for that.

He's going to get a touchdown on his bye week. He might get one next week. Alvin Kamara was a monster. I heard on SiriusXM the debate of like, okay, Christian McCaffrey is the running back one, period. Like, obviously. But then it was like, who's two? Who is number two? And Alvin Kamara is at least in the conversation.

He has not been outside of RB1 territory since he's been back. He has so many targets, and he's looked really, really good. I wouldn't put him at two, but he is good enough to be in that conversation. Let me ask you a really difficult question that other people may be considering in Dynasty Leagues. Because Alvin Kamara Dynasty Commodity is not a commodity. No. However, I was offered last week Alvin Kamara and a little bit of extra for Josh Jacobs, who's 25 years old. And I'm in a season where I could have won a championship. Or I could win a championship.

Right. Although I did lose to Jason this week. Sorry about that. Because Jason had every single player on his team score a touchdown. And Jason had almost every one of them score in a five-minute span. It was insane. I mean, it was like he has Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts threw two touchdowns.

One to Devontae Smith, who he has. Waddles grabbed a touchdown. Etienne scored a touchdown. Andrew scored a touchdown. Alladdles grabbed a touchdown. Etienne scored a touchdown. Andrew scored a touchdown. It was B. John scored a touchdown. And I looked up in our game, like, I'm going to score 150 points. Yeah. And I'm going to get blown out.

But anyways. Sorry. What would you do in that situation? Because, obviously, Josh Jacobs is young enough to be a valuable asset in Dynasty for a long period of time, whether it's with this team or another team. I don't think any of us are swapping Saquon for Kamara right now in a Dynasty, are we? No.

So then what do you do in that? Do you believe enough in Alvin Kamara rest of season to try to buy a title with him? Because if he's in contention for the number two running back, I mean, he's come back to – he's averaging 150 targets in the games he's been back. I don't want to say – Because you're afraid I'll go do it?

You have to do that deal. You have to. I mean, I don't want you to because you are easily the biggest competition for me in our dynasty league. Your team is excellent. In fact, I told Mike that morning, I was like, I know you had a loss, but I was like, how does anybody beat Andy's team? Apparently, you just go nuclear. Yeah, everyone on your team scores.

That's how you do it. But I would hate for you to make that trade. Right now, Kamara is still under contract for a couple more years he would be they can get out but they can get out next year I don't know I don't know that they would I don't know that they want to but just saying next year a post if I'm seeing it right on over the cap a post June 1st would turn into just a 1.6 dead cap and if you don't do it that then you're you're in with camara for the next couple years but which camara's and i get you know how long was the the uh like derrick carr contract it was a couple years right uh i believe it was a couple years because that's what it is this production is Kamara's been incredibly inefficient on the ground wherever we have a full four weeks in a row of averaging 3.6

yards per carry it's not a perfect stat of course but he's getting so much volume but it's it's all these targets I mean Derek Carr is Derek Carr cannot stop himself from checking down to Kamara. He's like, I don't want to do it. No, but there he is. I see him again. And it's working. And even afterwards, I think he makes the completion to Kamara and then goes, ah, I did it again.

All right. In the huddle. Kamara, it's not going to you. Then he sees him. Yeah, so I mean, and then I told somebody this past week, I was like, Travis Etienne, he can't keep scoring touchdowns like this. Then he sees him. Yeah, so I mean, and then I told somebody this past week. He's so beautiful. I was like, Travis Etienne, he can't keep scoring touchdowns like this. He did it again.

Yeah. He has seven touchdowns in four weeks. This game looked like, I mean, he left the game with an ankle injury. I thought I caught a break in a couple of leagues. He comes back 56-yard receiving touchdown. Yeah, he's a month straight of being a top five running back. So, Austin Eckler. Hey, welcome back. back yeah big receiving day that was uh really nice see was very inefficient on the ground but eckler's superpower has always been the receiving work um while you don't have mike williams obviously rest of season

you got a banged up palmer eckler going to be great through the uh through the air next week a much more difficult uh journey on the road against the Jets but I mean you're still going to play him I think he's going to be great rest of season uh he's got a two-week very difficult stretch after that freeways it is yeah I mean the the wheels are up and the plane is flying. Javante Williams, Jason, you asked me this morning, how many carries did Javante have? I was like, 10? No.

20? No. 27. I mean, the game script was something Denver is unfamiliar with. Right. Massive lead, five turnovers, short fields, waste the clock, but. Cold weather, keep Mahomes on the sideline. I don't think this is going to be super common obviously 27 carries is a very outrageous number however what it does say is as he's gotten back to health Andy you brought this up last week I

didn't think that we would see kind of a transition to him really being the the full lead focal point of the running back room. But it seems like that might happen. Now they're going on bye this week. So coming out of the bye a little bit more time since that injury, giving him a massive workload, I'm very interested in Javante. Let's go to wide receiver CeeDee Lamb, 14 targets, 12 for 158. He was so good. Let's go to wide receivers. CeeDee Lamb, 14 targets, 12 for 158. He was so good.

If you didn't see that game, the stat line is awesome. Two touchdowns. The stat line is awesome, but the stat line is still not even good enough. He was just so much better than everybody. He would have been over 200 if this game had any competitive fire over the back half. 41% of teams targets. Obviously, like I said, I almost traded for him. I went and looked at the game log from the previous weeks, and it was just kind of like so blasé.

It was so like, does this team not believe in CeeDee Lamb? I don't understand it. It's not like Brandon Cooks and Michael Gallup and Jake Ferguson are moving the football very often. So they went back to what got them there. Hopkins, 4-4-1, 28-3. You playing them against Pittsburgh on Thursday? I guess so.

I mean, Pittsburgh is a great matchup, and they lost Mika Fitzpatrick. So, I mean, yeah, Hopkins will be in your lineup. Rasheed Shahid, this is a bigger, broader discussion. You won't stay in the saints. There's lots to talk about. Sure. I figured we'd be talking about it in a different part of the show under a Chris Olave, but you know, I've watched the mic'd up version of Derek Carr and you know, he gets to the sideline and gets the playbook. He asks to take a shot.

He's not asking for Olave. He's asking for Shahid. They have something special. All of his shots, a lot of his shots, are to Shahid, and they work. And then his shots to Olave have not worked at all. And he seems frustrated with Chris Olave. It didn't help that Olave took a wide-open ball off the helmet. I think there is some disconnect between Olave and Derek Carr right now. Absolutely.

Because there was that play, which was if Chris Olave turns around, it's an easy catch. He was turned around. He didn't turn around at the right time. He turned around, faced the football in perfect timing, but you couldn't tell because his eyes had to be closed. I'll watch it again, but my take on it after watching it was the ball was in the air before he turned,

and he must have just lost it. But this was a touchdown. This was a great throw. Olave should catch. A normal wide receiver should catch this going to the end zone. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there was a play right after that where it was a terrible throw.

And then Olave was met. So I think they're both just getting mad at each other. I agree. Is what it seems like. And it's two weeks ago. He gave up on the route. Yes. Even though the ball was bad. Yeah. But Carr was furious with him. And like I said, I'd watch the sideline stuff.

It's like, hey, I want to run this play for Shahid. I want to run this play for Shahid. Like three for 153. It's funny because those were his only three targets. He only played 27% of snaps. It's like a Marvin Mims. I was going to say, you remember Robert Meacham? Sure.

He used to do that stuff. It was like deep shot, nothing else. Yeah, I had someone asking me about starting Shahid. I told them not to. Whoops. But it was – Shahid has had – his bad games are – if he doesn't catch a long bomb, it's 28 total yards, 28 total yards, 33 total yards, and he's not playing a ton of snaps so it's tough

i mean would are you picking up shaheed because of the the bombs and the connections he's the uh pick up a guy on sunday morning because someone gets hurt like palmer and then throw him in your lineup and pray right didn't you face shaheed this, Papa Josh? That had to feel real good. Oh, it sucked. Yeah, I mean, because nothing like getting beat by a guy that you're like, yeah, I'm glad he's in the lineup. Jalen Waddle, 12 targets, 7 for 1, 21. Tyreek Hill, 13 targets, 8 for 1, 12.

Monster performances. They're great. You should play them always. Jahan Dodson, 10 targets. He was great. You should play them always. Jahan Dodson, 10 targets. He was great. Come on. McLaurin was 5 for 63 in a touchdown. Two real bad drops.

He only caught 5 of 12 targets. That's what I was going to say. There was a couple plays that I was like, that's not Terry McLaurin. Right. Jamar Chase, an even 10 for 100 in a touchdown. Which we didn't mention it in the quarterback section, but for Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow had 43 rushing yards.

The dude was running around. This is a healthy Joe Burrow. We're back, baby. I think we are back that the Bengals are going to start putting up the points. Design draw on like third and 10. And ran it for like 14, 15 yards. It was awesome. Bounce back performances from Devontae Smith.

Seven for 99 and a touchdown. And he was only open by about 20 yards on that play. Yeah. And A.J. Brown, still good. Still over 125. Still over 125. He is just a manimal out thereimal i heard him called the decepticon this weekend and i was like that that's a better like he's not a transformer he's a decepticon

because that dark mask and the way he grimaces after a catch like i'm afraid of him yeah oh he is he is a terrifying human being. Just, I feel like if he walked into a room and just like kindly came up and said, how's it going? I would be in the corner crying. You're too big and strong. I think he might be able to take DK Metcalf now. Ooh.

I don't know. Speaking of that. He's wearing his own uniform for Halloween, Brooksalf now. Ooh. I don't know. Speaking of that. He's wearing his own uniform for Halloween, Brooks. Yep. Yeah, that's what I would. If I was AJ Brown, I'd just dress up as myself. Yeah. Terrifying.

That's good. Tyler Lockett. Can I switch my costume to AJ Brown? Nice try. You're going to need some muscles. Tyler Lockett. That's fair. Not just some, all of them. Tyler Lockett. That's fair. Not just some. All of them.

Tyler Lockett. From is he going to play to nine targets, eight for 81, and a touchdown. What do you do with this guy? What do you do with the whole Seahawks? Because that room is kind of crazy. You had DK Metcalf, who missed the previous week, come. And he had – do you know DK Metcalf's line? I don't off the top of my head.

I watched him not catch a bunch of targets. Okay, that's exactly right. That's how it looked. His line was five for 67. What? How many targets do you think he had for those five receptions? You're too low. You're too low.

12? Oh, gosh. He had 14 targets i watched him i watched him constantly you know he's getting kind of uh he drew some pis you know which is something that counts for nothing but uh hmm and you had the rookie get a touchdown again. JSN. Yep. I did it. What did you do? I knew. I knew. Oh, did you do the Camaro trade? This is the worst. I knew it.

Come on, man. You got folks on the show. This is why when the questions started coming up, I was like, oh, this thing. He's going to go do it. Because I know I'm going to make him do it. It's the right move, and I absolutely hate this for our league. I hate it for having to face you. We'll find out what happens.

Trey McBride, 14 targets, 10 for 95. Start of the week. Trey McBride. And expect more of this. I mean, when you have a team that's throwing the ball to the tight end as much as Arizona was, which is exactly what we said on Thursday, Friday, you're throwing to, and you consolidate it to one athletic target. Like this is, he broke the record, by the way,

for most receptions in a game by an Arizona Cardinals tight end in history. Nobody's ever had that. And that's just 10. But, you know, he's one of three tight ends. So Gronk and Aaron Hernandez, to record 14-plus targets in a game at age 23 or younger. So maybe this guy opens up for Trey McBride. Yeah, hopefully we're not getting fooled because he did have a game last year

where he was like 7 for 70 with a score, and then they buried him again. But this is who he's supposed to be. He was a second round pick he was the first tight end drafted in his class he had a dominant final season in college like this is who he should be so fingers crossed and Taysom Hill only one target but ends up with two touchdowns yeah the the rushing work was up for him the The goal line carries. So you can buy into that as a possibility. But Juwan Johnson was back, and Juwan Johnson was taking the routes away from Taysom.

Yeah, I absolutely love that it worked. We had people pick him up. We had people play him. He was my start of the week. But I am not confident. Now that we saw Juwan back and we saw the the route participation completely disappear so going forward he's always someone you can start because of the rushing touchdown upside that exists and in a matchup against Chicago you

could see that again but he is not someone that I am super bullish on repeating performances. Quick shout out to Jacob Gibbs at J a Gibbs underscore 23. He was the one who shared that quote about the Gronk Hernandez, uh, training bride situation. Kittle, you can get, uh,

a lot from Kittle when you have no Debo, no Debo and a negative game script. And now what? Three straight losses for the old 49ers? Yes. I don't mind that. They are actually not in first place in the NFC West. The Seahawks are leading the division.

Come on. Yeah. The 49ers looked unbeatable three weeks ago. Unbeatable. Three weeks ago, I was like, I should go put a bet on the 49ers going undefeated. Did you? No. Oh, thank goodness.

I did not, but it was looking at this team, looking at their schedule, because it was Cleveland against a backup, then it was the Vikings, and then the Bengals who had been struggling. But the NFL is a funny place. Yeah, yeah, wow. 49ers. That interception he threw down near the goal line, Jason, But the NFL is a funny place. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. 49ers. That interception he threw down near the goal line, Jason,

did you see that one? Where Purdy rolled right and then he just threw it. It was the lineman catch that you loved. Yes. Oh, I do remember that. Jason always had a dream in our flag football leagues that he would just catch the ball as the lineman putting his hands up and pick six it.

Yes. Just while running towards the quarterback to sack him. Just grab the ball out of the air when he throws it over you. How was it? Hawkinson did great. Maybe it's a bon voyage to tight end three, but he should still be heavily involved. Tight end three, probably not because of touchdowns, but he'll be peppered. David Njoku looked real good this week.

He did. If you watched that game, he looked awesome. Yeah, super athletic, lots of targets. I was surprised he only ended up with four receptions, but, yeah, no, he was very active. I mean, he looked hard to tackle. Fergie got into the end zone, 4 for 47. The catch was awesome.

It was like a play so athletic, I was like, that can't be Jake Ferguson, is it? And it was. The connection between him and Dak has been really, really strong lately, and I think you stay in the flames with Fergie. Cole Komet, 10 for 79 with Bajent. Yeah. Logan Thomas back into the end zone.

Dalton Kincaid had a good Thursday night. All right. The not so good. Pooped in his big boy pants. Last week's superstars, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, their pants were too big. Lamar threw for 157 and one against the cardinals

and to be fair the cardinals were in the game they scored 17 fourth quarter points they got an onside kick that would have put them with a chance to win the game or tie the game had they gotten the two-point conversion yeah it was a very disappointing performance from a quarterback that you thought was going to be a complete smash. But also when you have three rushing touchdowns, it's very difficult. You know, Gus Edwards basically ruined Lamar Jackson's fantasy day. If those touchdowns, you know, they scored enough points as an offense. Yeah, 31.

How many teams play in your standard fantasy football league? 12. I think 12 is probably the norm. standard fantasy football league? 12. I think 12 is probably the norm. And the second most? 10. 10, right. If I told you that one time this year Trevor Lawrence finished inside the top 10 at the quarterback position in eight starts, would you believe me? Because Trevor Lawrence is going on the bye, and the question now is do you drop Trevor Lawrence? in eight starts would you believe me because trevor lawrence would be very shocked trevor lawrence is going on the buy and the question now is do you drop trevor lawrence because

if dax there you do am i right you do right okay mike wants to is there like a victory lap he could take i will be taking it do you want to go around the table mike i got these headphones otherwise i would you are dunking on the fact that Trevor Lawrence was expensive in drafts and Dak was free and Dak has been better and Dak will be better and if Dak is on waivers I think all three of us would now agree yes it's Dak Prescott yeah Mike doesn't need to say anything because it's because the oh the players have said it themselves I'll be back now the the irony irony of it is that Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville are dominating in terms – like they've won five consecutive games.

And he's playing well. And the offense looks good. It's Travis Etienne, man. Yes, it really is. And what's crazy, too, is they're going to – they go on by. San Francisco goes on by. And then we come out with Jacksonville-San Francisco in Jacksonville after the bye week. San Francisco is going to be like that's gonna be a tough game yeah it's

could you imagine if they lose that and they lose four in a row I will bet that the line of that game is it's like pick them I bet it's like I bet I bet it's Jacksonville minus 0.5 and I don't I mean we don't have it yet. It is totally Travis Etienne. Look at the situation of Dallas. The complete lack of scoring that Tony Pollard has had. If that flipped with the way that Etienne

is producing then there's no way Dak is putting up numbers. We had a very good starts of the week here on the show but one of them did not perform. CJ.J. Stroud, 16 for 24, 140, and nothing. If you played Stank Dell,

you didn't get anything. If you played Nico Collins, you didn't get anything. So, it was really a slog. You tuned into this game with four minutes left. It was 13-12. Not what you hoped for in the battle of the rookie quarterbacks. Tony Pollard, 12 for 53 gross in a game that really should have had a lot of Tony Pollard Tony Pollard's longest run let me read this to you 13 yards the week, longest run, 7. The week before, longest run, 10. The week before, longest run, 16.

This is playing out exactly like Lamar Miller when he was in Miami, when everything was an explosive play, and then he becomes the bell cow. This team was supposed to be predicated on the running game. And I'm not saying Tony Pollard is bad, but I think if I told you eight weeks into the season that you have a running back that has not scored at all since week one, is 3.9 on the ground in this heralded rushing McCarthy offense, and even worse, he's not catching a ton of passes.

He has not been good for fantasy football the last five weeks. He is the running back 33. He has fewer fantasy points than Tajay Spears and Najee Harris and DeMarcado. What did you

just say before that? Whose name did you utter? Najee Harris has more fantasy points than Tony Pollard over the last five weeks. And Najee has not been good. He has been bad. I do wonder about the ankle. You rewind the clock. Tony Pollard had a devastating season ending ankle injury last year and that's why when it was he got the franchise tag and Zeke got shipped out it was oh that's

very interesting that's a vote of confidence for Tony Pollard being able to come back but I'm curious if that is that's still a problem for him I mean the first three weeks it wasn't a problem right I mean he started the season pretty strong he looked like one of the best fantasy picks you know when when you were heading into week four you can still wear down 65 of snaps obviously the blowout script i mean he's out there and and he's probably a trade for canada if somebody is really out on him just because he's the bell cow of a good team but and we talked about the schedule right with d Dak that's going to be actually you brought that up because it's bad it's bad for runners it's tough for Tony hmm any chance they bring

Derrick Henry in I I think that the if Henry is moved it's Baltimore or Dallas yes yeah Kenneth Walker finally had a dud eight for 66 no touchdowns yeah Charbonnet 59% of snaps it's sucks it feels bad because he was left off the injury report but he did miss two days with an injury Ramondre and Zeke Ramondre 10 for 39 on the ground Zeke 7 for 36 on the ground four targets for Ramondre no targets for Zeke but bad yep disappointing game very very disappointing fantasy s uh output but still still that 60 40 split we've been seeing and um i i i'm not too worried about the total performance for remandre steven sucks yeah i mean it's just a matter of you have a leader of a committee on a bad team right that's

the hardest part uh Aaron Jones I don't know if we're going to get real Aaron Jones back there what did you see the report that they're the the Green Bay Packers are maybe looking for a running back oh really yeah well I did watch AJ Dillon so that would make sense. I thought about putting AJ Dillon into my hierarchy of least favorite players to watch play football. Which... Did Derek Carr, has he

moved down a bit on that? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair. In part because Kamara only had five targets which is a credit to him to throw the ball to other people. Like I know we say he can't resist it, but, you know, three big bombs to Shahid. Mac Jones stays on the list, I think.

Okay, fair. But, yeah, A.J. Dillon, nobody runs into a butt better than A.J. Dillon. He is – I mean, he got it done. A.J. Dillon got it done in the receiving game. Very strange. But his ground game is so disappointing to us. I have to imagine it is incredibly disappointing to the Packers. If you told me somebody – The dude's built like – he's built like Derrick Henry.

If you told me that someone trained him as a young kid to when he gets the football out of the backfield to close his eyes, scream and run straight, I would say, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. Pacheco, hugely disappointing game for Isaiah Pacheco, but this, you understand why. Yep. Eight for 40, negative game script from the jump, five turnovers.

He wasn't out on the field a lot. If you look in the second half of that game, because I was looking, there was tons of McKinnon out there. Yep. Because they were in two-minute drill offense. By the way, I don't know if he's not going to show up in the wide receiver duds but i'll just mention him with pacheco rashi rice had this ball did you see this one yep he had a ball in the middle of the field on a scramble from mahomes i may have been playing him and he did the so wide open that I turned my head to run

because he's a great runner. I'm not sure he doesn't score a 60-yard touchdown on that play. And he dropped it. He dropped it. Madison, 16 for 31. Chuba Hubbard, 15 for 28. Miles Sanders, two carries. Yeah, the Chuba start did end up very disappointing

and was exponentially frustrating when you saw how many times they were inside the five and it was just give the ball to chuba yeah oh they did they get did you miss the time that they gave him three straight goal line carries apparently i did they gave him three straight goal line carries and he was stuffed stuffed stuffed yeah it was um they didn't score a lot for being inside the fight so much yeah i watched the it was one of the opening drives and yeah so three inside the ten two inside the five but even with look i get it stuffed two times in a row you want to move away for it on the in that series but for how many times I saw them down there, Chuba should have had at least a touchdown,

but he did not. All right, so the Deontay Foreman, Roshon Johnson question. It's just a hot fart is the answer. Stinky? Real windy. Would move your hair if you had long hair. It's a fart in your face. Like if you put your

head up to it? Oh, yeah. It's a hot fart had long hair. It's a fart in your face. Like if you put your head up to it? Oh, yeah. It's a hot fart in your face. It's a rocket fart. Yeah. We've all had rocket farts. Sounds like that. I mean, this was, people asked me on Sunday morning, it's like, Roshan or Thorman. Roshan by hair?

Darrington Evans ends up with the touchdown. Yeah, what is that all about? Damian Pierce, 12 for 46, no targets. Devin Singletary, 10 for 30. Pierce did score. Then it was called back. Yeah. Then he got another goal line opportunity.

I don't know what Pierce's goal line success rate is this year, but it's not good. No, it is not very good. And this is going to be. Five zone carries. He's had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And he has one touchdown. Wow.

That is. Eight five zone carries. That is nuts. But he also has a total of negative five yards on those carries. And they gave the ball. It was the fantasy football insult of all. Oh, yeah. It went to the fullback.

The next play on fourth down, they just snuck it to Andrew Beck, who coaches history or teaches history at the local high school. Yeah, Arthur high-fived him after that. I feel like whenever a player goes down on the inch line, whenever they are given the touchdown in the game, but then upon review, it was just short. There review it was just short there should be a law there should be a law that they get first dibs at that next play like they you know you're at least the first read in a route or you get the handoff should start awarding one point for called back

touchdowns yeah it's like oh just for our like emotional point yeah it's like a, you know. But Damian Pierce is not involved in the passing game, and he has a 50% timeshare of a bad offense. You'd rather have Brian Robinson. Yeah, you'd rather have Brian. I mean, you think about that. I'm trying to think of some other guys that are kind of like grinders. Well, I'm looking at this. There's a handful of these like 50-50.

You know, Damian Pierce might be worse than Zeke. Zeke is getting targets. You know, he's about a 50% player. He's 40%, but like 40% plus in targets. That's a good point. Might be the better option. He might legit be Zeke. Yeah.

Chris Olave. Chris Olave is the wide receiver 30 on the season with no buys. So when you look at Jason, maybe check on points per game for Olave and see where he ranks. 30th in total points. Chris Olave this season is on pace for 1,000 yards, two touchdowns, 90

receptions. None of those are bad. One touchdown on the year is really costing him. And he gets open. He's so good. He has the seventh most. I know he hasn't had the bye week, but he has the seventh most targets at the wide receiver position. I think he is a bye. I do, too.

I completely do. You know, I said that before this last week. You would have been super upset if you bought him. I don't think you will be by the end of the season. Here's a tough one. To answer your question, points per game, he is 30. No, he is way lower than that. Oh, okay.

So he's 30th in points. Yeah. We'll get to the bottom of this. Would you trade Cooper Cup for Crystal Lavi? Knowing the Stafford injury and the bye week coming up, and Crystal Lavi is underwhelming. It's not like you're trading Cooper Cup for a high commodity. I'd still keep Cup.

Would you try to trade Cup in? Maybe it's not Alave. Would you try to get out of the – like trade the name before the backup takes over? Yeah, I mean, I think that maybe. I would be far more willing with Puka. Puka to me is deleted until Stafford is back. I think Cup will still have relevance with a backup. So you had both Puka and Addison.

Yes. Well, different leagues. Oh, that is different leagues. I've got Puka in the league of record. Quarterback situation. And Addison in our dynasty. When you get done counting, let us know. Christian Watson, a dud of a game.

Honestly, the Packers. Let's take a temperature check. On a scale of 1 to 10, Al Borland, how are you feeling about your Packers? This season? Yeah. Not like your fandom for life I'm talking about right now. Going into next season, 4. Oh, that's higher than i've seen i've seen the packers fans saying this is the worst season of 40 years the worst they said that

at least you wanted to watch them in the past when they were bad uh yeah it's not fun to watch right now but i do have faith that jordan love will get get it together oh wow as well based upon what did you speak to somebody? Hope, Jason. Did Mrs. Love give you a call? The more I watch, the more I'm like, I think we know the answer here. I think we got it. I think we know he ain't it. Hope will do crazy things to a person.

Hope and love. That is so. Just need some faith. Like, Packers fans, you were so ready to jettison Aaron Rodgers into the sun. Look what happens when your quarterback stinks. It is not a fun place to be riding high with Brett Favre right into Rodgers. There are 40-year-olds that don't know what it's like in Green Bay. There are 40-year-olds that don't know what it's like to lose

and don't know what it's like to not have a good quarterback. Yeah. And maybe Jordan Love figures it out, but here's the thing. He's got a lot to figure out. He's got a lot to figure out. And what's their record now? They are 2-5. The Bears are 2-6.

So they're just staying alive. Also, I finished counting. Oh, did you finish counting? Christian Olave points per game is wide receiver 37 okay that did it yeah okay okay Christian Kirk didn't have the game we hope for no he did not ugh Zay Flowers

was a I mean this was a huge dud of a game for Zay Flowers I'm going to be honest with you I've watched a lot of Baltimore I don't know what Zay Flowers really is'm going to be honest with you. I've watched a lot of Baltimore. I don't know what Zay Flowers really is, but the truth is, right now, he's worse than Olave is on the year.

Like, because of the kind of type of player that Zay Flowers is... It's the way they're using him, yeah. I just don't know what his... Like, I have my worries. Like, the ceiling for Zay Flowers is that, you know, they start using him in some better ways. But the floor is you have, this is Rondell Moore in Baltimore. And you have no finishes as a wide receiver one this year for Zay Flowers.

You have one touchdown in the receiving game this year for Zay Flowers. You have a whole pile of targets, but these are – like I remember when Rondell Moore had a pile of targets in Arizona and the yardage, right? Five catches for 19 yards. That's hard to only gain three yards. It is. That's called screen game.

So I guess I'm getting a little concerned. I think it's fair. Eight weeks in. I think it's fair to have concerns for the rest of the season. I think the player is good. And remember, some of his games, though, were like, Mark Andrews is hurt. Or Bateman and OBJ are out.

And so that was something that got brought up early in the year. And we do have... Here we go. Woo-hoo-hoo! Breaking news. Oh, no. Oh bills no are signing wait a second Leonard Fournette the dump truck coming to Buffalo. Oh my goodness. Beep. Beep. Buffalo. Beep. Buffalo.

Thighs like what? What are you doing, baby? Why? Lenny. Boy, that'll be a good waiver show tomorrow. Glad I traded James Cook. Oh, man. Why? The dump truck. The man who will, like, we want more

targets for James Cook. Uh-oh. Yeah. Hmm. Lenny finds a home in Buffalo. I mean, hit that drop again. Good for you, Fournette. Okay. First reaction.

I mean, pending a physical. Is he worth picking up? Speculatively, yeah. I mean, sure. He could end up. I mean, we a physical. Is he worth picking up? Speculatively. Sure. He could end up. I mean, we've been playing Latavius Murray. And if they think that he is. Well, we watched Murray get, like, stuffed up on the goal line three or four times.

Yeah. Might have been enough. They're like, yeah, this old vet isn't getting it done. Let's go get Leonard Fournette. Dallas got it. Four for 36. Disappointing. Dalton Schultz. Two for five. Disappointing. Josh Palmer. He was three for 24, but he gutted it out.

He stayed in the game. When he went down for that injury, at the beginning of the game, immediately goes down, grabs the knee that was hurting him all week, and then does the hop jump all the way to the blue tent. How is this guy not ruled out immediately? We have no details of the injury, right?

Right. Is this like a bruise or something? I'm not aware. That would make sense. That makes more sense. It was a bone bruise. All right. We've got to wrap it up.

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