Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 8 Waivers & Streamers + Difference Makers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/22

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Waiver Wire pickups for Week 8 on today’s fantasy football podcast! Plus, injury news, droppable players, and fantasy football difference makers! Find out which players on waivers can help you get a win in Week 8 and beyond. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for October 22nd, 2024. (00:00) - Intro  (13:55) - Chargers at Cardinals Recap (21:00) - Difference Makers (21:05) - Jauan Jennings / Deebo Samuel (25:30) - Jaylen Warren (27:35) - De’von Achane (29:40) - NFL News (39:00) - Waiver Wire (39:30) - RB Waivers (48:02) - WR Waivers (59:25) - TE Waivers (01:02:00) - DST Waivers (01:03:30) - QB Streamer Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Difference Makers presented by IAMS Pet Food News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, Tuesday, October 22nd. Welcome back to the show thank you for listening following supporting this podcast it was it was a night of football I believe that the last time that I've heard

Mike Wright's words was 8 42 p.m. and was that right after the last time that I've heard Mike Wright's words was 8.42 p.m. Was that right after the last offensive play of the weekend? Yes. Yeah, because that's when I lost. And there's the first time I've heard his words since then. That's when I lost. The last offensive play of the weekend.

I didn't lose on the kick. I'm sure there's plenty of people who out there, they lost on the Cardinals field goal. But no, I lost by.2 on that final James Conner run. And that was his final words. Yeah. And we haven't heard from him since. In fact, I was 50-50 that I'd see him this morning.

I'm always here. I'm always here. I will say this. I am a full changed man with regards to the double Monday night football. Because rewind the tape, beginning of the season, I was not a fan. You know, it was like, let us have our island game, you know, where everything can focus on one. And, you know, I think I would still be exactly there for Thursday night football.

You know, it's like, let's just watch the one game and we're all in it together. But the fact that Monday is the end of the fantasy football week, having more players that met across all my leagues, all of our leagues, there were so many teams and so many players. It was like the drama was exceptionally high. It was very high, yes. It also is a hedge against a bad game. Yeah, which we had.

If you have one that wasn't very entertaining or exciting towards the end, it allows you to watch. And I was just doing both on the same TV and going back and forth to the sound, and I'm enjoying that experience. Mike and I had our head-to-head battle. It was not looking good for me. Mark Andrews, hello, two touchdowns. I thought I would lose to two Andrews and two Javante this week,

which just feels like I was excited to play against both of those players, and they were dominant. Yeah. The, but the, the, the universe was really trying to be, to be like, Hey, Mr. The most anti Mark Andrews guy eat it. And then, uh, then the, the, the chargers forgot how to play defense. The Mark Andrews narrative and story has gone. It's just been so wild.

Like, we had the beginning of the season. The analysis after the beginning of the season was that Mark Andrews looks the same and is fine. And week two was fine. games with the limited opportunities meant that the gap we have to make up between the involvement of the offense and productivity for your fantasy team was wide. Jason went on record two weeks ago and said, don't give up. He scored twice. I mean, 43 yards, but this is Mark Andrews, really. I mean, his red zone involvement has been his story minus one year where he was highly targeted. Otherwise, he's always been kind of a go-to red zone option. He scored twice last night.

And he scored once the week prior. So this is, to Andy's point, he is a really good red zone option. But I do want to make sure. When we watch the film, Mark Andrews is as good as he's been. He's just annihilating people as a blocker. He's getting open in space. Everything's good. However, his entire career of substance for fantasy football, he's been an 80% route participation type of guy.

Now he's down to a 60% and was in this game as well. Four targets last week, four targets this week. Great fantasy games because three touchdowns. Obviously he is better than a lot of the waiver wire tight ends despite the back-to-back gooses. He's not that guy. He's a very good player, but I don't believe, you know, the truth is in between. He's not the goose and he's not this, oh, he's back baby where he's going to be leading in targets and in yards every single game for the Ravens he is a talented player on a great offense who can put up points but is not the center focal point of the offense anymore yeah

that would be King Henry just to finish the story because I don't want to leave people hanging. Kyler and Connor ended up overcoming J.K. Dobbins' disappearing act against the Cardinals. And I ended up beating Mike in the end, which, you know, last year we had the matchup, me and Josh. And this one ended very similarly, except for one fundamental difference, which is Mike has a lot of class. Oh. Do you know what I mean? Thank you. And so, but I mean.

But far more. I mean, comparing one's character against Josh. Not a. It's, I mean. It's not a bar. You don't even have to have to step over that thing. That thing is in the basement. You can just keep walking and you will clear the bar.

If you've got ice skates on, just stay on the ground and move across it. Just slide right over it. You don't even have to have to step over that thing. That thing is in the basement. You can just keep walking, and you will clear the bar. If you've got ice skates on, just stay on the ground and move across it. Just slide right over it. For sure. That's a strange thing. I appreciate the compliment, but it's also. But you look so righteous. You know what I mean? It's incredible, your moral character well i didn't get my comparison i didn't get any like uh paraphernalia left on my you know personal property like i did from papa josh last year

but no it was uh we'll get into the full recap there i just uh you know it's two high scoring affairs i mean we yeah we have a lot to talk about i feel like we could talk about the recaps those game but to your point about ands, this is Henry and Lamar. I mean, that's this team right now, 500 rushing yards, dismantling their opposition on the ground, and you really, if Lamar plays at this level, he is not stoppable as an NFL player. You can't, like they say say pick your poison, right?

But all poison kills, right? So it's like, pick which way you die is the expression. But what if I don't want to die? What if I don't pick poison, right? The Bucs were feeling pretty good when it was 10-0.

And they were dominating on both sides of the ball. They looked they were. They looked great. I will say that the offense for the Buccaneers, and if we're in this game, the offense took a major, major turn the second that Mike Evans re-hurt and then re-re-hurt his hamstring. So he got the touchdown early, hurt his hamstring on that play, kept playing. Had a second option opportunity for a touchdown in the end zone dropped the ball because his hamstring was uh

ripped to shreds it so it seemed by his reaction but once he was no longer in the game i mean it really took a toll on that offense and then of course late in the game and when i say late i mean garbage time unimportant this is why you don't well whatever you want to say maybe it wasn't garbage time but very very very late in the game a very devastating injury to Chris Godwin the ankle my first reaction was that this was the worst coached game in history from the perspective of getting your players hurt that was my original reaction because it was clear, regardless of Mike Evans scoring the first touchdown,

that he was not remotely ready to play in this football game. I know he wants to contribute, big matchup, Monday Night Football. I'm not blaming Mike Evans for wanting to play. Sometimes you have to protect players from themselves. But he was not ready to play, And that's a coaching training staff decision. And then at the end of the game controversy, because 43 seconds left or whatever it was, Chris Godwin dislocates,

breaks his ankle, feel terrible for the guy going into free agency, been playing great football. So both fundamental pieces of the offense are now down. My original reaction was, how is he in the football game? But I also had thought that they had the two onside kick limit because that was a proposal by the NFL when the new onside kick rules went through. So in my opinion, I thought, okay, you're going down to just lose by less

because you can't onside kick and the Ravens can just knee it out down 10. They could have onside kicked. They had gotten an onside kick. They could have. If they score, I mean, the Browns won a ballgame this year in the identical situation. So I am no longer holding that against Todd Bowles. It's unfortunate what happens.

I'm sure those players didn't want to leave the field when you have an opportunity however minuscule it was to come back and win and they had been moving the ball down the field but now you lose two major components the trickle down effect of these injuries is massive on fantasy football I mean I think we'd all

admit that Mike Evans if he misses just three weeks I'd be shocked if it's only three? Yeah, I mean, I feel like his history of hamstring injuries and the severity and pain he was in, maybe that, I mean, this is just speculation at this point, but he's got to miss at least a week. Well, you see oftentimes that re-injuring a hamstring is worse

than the original hamstring injury, and while the original hamstring injury obviously wasn't enough to keep him out of the game, like I said, he was on the sideline after the first touchdown really dealing with the hamstring, limping like crazy. And the fact that he went back out and then really – yeah, we've seen Nico go on IR. We've seen a handful of players go on IR. A handful?

Oh, no. You know what I mean? Swish. But, yeah, I expect him to miss a lot of time. And we mentioned briefly ankle injury for Chris Gama, but it was one of those, like, you don't watch injuries. He's done for the season. It's pointed the other direction.

Right. So this might have been the swan song for Baker in fantasy football. Oh, my laser. 370-3, two picks. I feel like it was a little bit my fault because the moment I said Baker is so good in our chat, he threw a nasty interception. Two of his next three pass attempts, Andy, after you said that, were interceptions. So, you know, filling in the gap for Evans was Cade Otten, 8 for 100.

It was also Rashad White. And, you know, a lot of people, today's a waiver show. We're going to run to the waiver wire for Jalen McMillan and Cade Otten. I think Rashad White might be the biggest benefactor of these injuries because Jalen McMillan's a rookie. You don't know the trust level, Sterling Shepard, other players, Cade Otten. There have been times when this offense did not have Godwin and Evans. And I think Otten is a beneficiary. I'm not saying he's not, but I just wonder if Rashad White will get lost somewhere.

He was 6 for 71, two touchdowns, caught passes, and we know what this offense was like when Godwin wasn't a focal point, which was Rashad White. Do you guys agree with that? Richard White might have an opportunity? The opportunities, they will go up. It's so difficult because the game like this was a this was a wild game of after the first half the the at least the carry count I believe it was I had uh I had tweeted it out of

someone it was I think it was from Yankee but's like, all three running backs have five carries or five touches. I can't remember which one it is at halftime. It's like, that is disgusting. And then they were down so much so fast, which maybe that's the prescription now because the offense won't be able to move very much. So it's definitely a bump for Rashad White. The Jalen McMillan

ad, I mean, obviously if you're getting White, you have to trade for him, where McMillan could be on your waiver wire. It's, does he go to Chris Godwin's role? He was a slot player in college. Does he go to the slot for Tampa Bay now, or does somebody else do that? And that's a – I mean, this is the Cooper Cup role of an offense where it's designed very specifically to get that player involved. So that's where the addition of McMillan is so exciting of – if he actually gets that slot role, it's really big upside. Yeah, and you also have Sterling Shepard there who we saw fill in a little bit. He's a veteran guy.

He can play both inside and in the slot, but he'll be free, I think. I don't think people are rushing after Sterling Shepard on waivers. In the other game, the Cardinals beat the Chargers. Final score of the previous one, 41-31, Ravens. Cardinals beat the Chargers 17-15. James Conner, 19 for 101 on the ground also two for 51 through the air didn't get into the end zone but that was good enough for 17 plus fantasy points and half point and more in full Kyler six for 64 on the ground only threw for 145 yards passing

I think most people's reaction to this game will be great joy with James Conner and great despair with Marvin Harrison Jr. Dude. Who was 3 for 21. What is going on? 3 for 21 and also dropped a pass that was down the field. That was the one he ended up

getting a penalty on. But it was kind of egregious. He went through his arms, hit him in the belly. They're not on the same page. There's also a problem, I think, with play development. There's not a lot of plays being drawn up for Harrison that happen quick, and the Cardinals' offensive line and Kyler's needing to escape the pocket has led to, you know, all these plays.

We keep getting replays of Marvin Harrison being open late in the play, but Kyler's running all over the place at this point. Yes. So they're kind of irrelevant. And, you know, we got the big game against the Rams, but most of these plays, there's no, you know, where's the quick slant, right? Where like he's in, he's in the slot, but where's the quick slant in one-on-one coverage where's the out route five yards from the line of scrimmage as opposed to showing us

highlights of double moves where kyler had no chance to throw him the football the cardinals have scored 17 or fewer points in four of their games like i don't i have no idea what they're doing in these offensive meetings we're like yeah, yeah, no, things are working really, really well right now, guys. And the last was the big Kyler run. I mean, he had one this week. Was it also two weeks ago or was that San Francisco? It was San Francisco. So, I mean, that's two plays that you can't count on those of all the time.

I mean, this one especially of Kyler, it was a masterful play of he watched the defense completely shift all over to the right, and then he just ran completely open all the way to the end zone. But it's maddening to see how ineffective this offense is and feel like nothing is changing. They just keep going to it, saying maybe it will work this time. What's really weird about this game is that the Cardinals

were running the ball outstandingly, couldn't throw the ball, which is, you would think with Kyler and Marvin Harrison, it would be the opposite. And with the Chargers defense being so formidable. Exactly. And then on the other side, the Chargers, you would expect to be running the ball so well against the Cardinals

and not throwing the ball much because their wide receivers are injured. And instead, they can't run the ball for anything. But here's Justin Herbert with 350 yards. It's a weird game. The Dobbins line was awful. 14 for 40. That included a long of 11. Like, it was weird. You for 40. That included a long of 11. Like, it was, it was.

The Cardinals looked like they had an extra man in the box in every play. And they wanted to go, I mean, look, the leading receiver. Oh, baby. For the Chargers. Big bone Tanner, Will Disley. Woo-hoo. 11 targets. Eight receptions, 81 yards.

He big, he fast, he strong. He Will Disley. Big bone Tanner. Woo-hoo. 11 targets 8 receptions 81 yards he big he fast he strong he Will Disley Big Montana you're back baby never die Will I can't believe

in the year of 2024 we're talking about Will Disley he looks enormous I mean he looks like an offensive tackle in the passing game so the Cardinals said hey beat us with the passing game

and these players they couldn't get into the So the Cardinals said, hey, beat us with the passing game and these players, they couldn't get into the end zone. Cardinals end up winning the ball game. You're right, it's frustrating. Let's talk fantasy though through now seven weeks. Trey McBride has been disappointing. Can't get into the end zone. Marvin Harrison disappointing.

And, you know, really the only impressive player on the totality of the season, the only player you're happy with the draft capital invested in has been James Conner because Kyler you haven't been. No. And Harrison and McBride you haven't been. So moving forward, the Cardinals get Miami in Miami next week. Miami, I believe, if you look at the StreamFinder tool on our website,

is number one against opposing quarterbacks. They are top tier against quarterbacks. Part of that without Tua has been the fact that teams have been in the lead and that Miami is never playing with the lead, so you run on them. It's hard for me to look at any metrics against the Dolphins, offense or defense, without Tua, and put a lot of stock into it, but it will be interesting going forward to see how that plays out. I think that you're worried about the passing game, but

there's still the chance as the season progresses that the passing game figures it out. The weapons are there with McBride, with Harrison, and Kyler. You still want them to figure it out. You could see a path where they do, but right now it's not working. A little disappointing, and I don't know how hurt he was, but Ladd-McConkie just 46 of those 350

passing yards. All in the second half. The first half couldn't connect, and he did look injured. Yeah, it was just a strange game. Cardinals won. All this negativity. Cardinals won the ball game, mostly because of defense in the running game. James Conner, though, has been a revelation.

Zero snaps for Benson in this game. Only one carry for DiMarcato. You're always looking at that, and if that's a trend for arizona to continue to give james connor you know that kind of a workload because that wasn't always common down the stretch last year despite him playing well but um that was good to see any other thoughts on this ball game i know we had a lot to recap from those. This is a waiver show. We're going to talk about players to pick up.

Injuries, we saw more of them last night. You need to make changes on the team and the roster and add depth and do all of those things. We're going to try to give you the players that we're looking for on today's show. We're going to take a quick break and we'll come back

with a new segment. All right. One of the things that happened last year, if you were listening to the show, is that we had some pretty important midseason transactions. David Njoku, Doc Prescott, CeeDee Lamb, there were players that at about this juncture in the year, you could start to foresee the future in terms of, we know a lot about opposing defenses. We know the way teams are trending. And you were able to add some players that were league winners. And then inversely, you had players in the beginning of last year Kenneth Walker Travis Etienne

that were such difference makers at that juncture of the season but didn't finish that way Connor was another great end of season Najee Harris so from this point on in the season we've got a new segment we want to break down players that you can look at as maybe the beginning part of winning a championship. Welcome to Difference Makers, presented by Iams Pet Food. That was a surprise. I thought it was done, and then it was back. So there's not going to be a rule set on this segment. It's not going to be like we each have one name every week or two names every week.

We're just going to bring up some names that we think will be opportunities to potentially get ahead of the curve, ahead of your league mates. Not exactly a waiver segment, not exactly a trade for a segment, but a difference maker segment. We want to point out some players that we think could be difference makers down the stretch. I'm going to kind of flip the order of the guys we talk about. Sure. Is that all right? Yeah.

Because one of the bigger storylines this weekend was, you know, Brandon Ayuk, he's part of the news. He tore his ACL. He's done for the year. We got news yesterday that Debo Samuel is dealing with pneumonia. Hospitalized. He's hospitalized with pneumonia. We've got the return of Ricky Pearsall, but from a difference-making

perspective, we've already seen it at the beginning of this year. I want to bring up Juwan Jennings' name. Juwan Jennings is right now the wide receiver 19 on the year because he's already taken advantage of opportunities. He put up that 44-point week 3 when he had an opportunity. What I've noticed when watching the film frequently of the 49ers

is that when he's on the field with Brock Purdy, they have a pretty great connection. The passer rating for Brock Purdy is exceptional, specifically with Juwan Jennings, and the things that Kyle Shanahan has come out and said about Juwan Jennings have been very promising from his developmental standpoint. So I want to bring that name up. Now, he didn't play this

past week. He's dealing with a hip injury. Kyle Shanahan has come out and said he's not positive. He'll be back this week, but John Jennings is on a lot of waiver wires or at the bottom of people's benches. And with this opportunity in this offense, John Jennings could have a crucial role on a good offense the rest of the season.

Yeah, he's the clear beneficiary as far as playing time and opportunities and the target pecking order when it comes to the Brandon Iyuk injury. You've seen some success this year. You've seen a good rapport with Brock Purdy. So Juwan Jennings is someone who could go from almost irrelevance to an actual difference maker. But I don't – He's also – sorry, I just want to throw this in there before you move forward.

He's tied with Kittle for the highest targets per route run on the football team. So when he's on the field, there is that connection that we've seen between him and Kittle. Yeah, Brock likes something he sees. Yeah, and for just cause because it's worked out when targeting Jawan Jennings. But I don't know if Debo plays this week with the pneumonia issue that really hampered him this last week and obviously hospitalized him. But I want to bring his name up since this is a difference-maker segment.

There's two names to me that when I look forward at some changes going on in the league or their teams that I think are true difference makers. Debo could be top 10 wide receiver the rest of the season. We've seen when Brandon Ayuk is off the field, here's some stats. Jacob Gibbs tweeted this out. Great follow on Twitter. The target per route run and the yards per route run rate, if you look at their stars, you look at Debo and Kittle, when Brandon Ayuk is off the field, the target per route run rate, Debo's at 37% versus Kittle's 24%, and yards per route run, Debo's up at 4.44. That's an outrageous number, and Kittle's at two, which is still good. So when Ayuk has been off the field,

Debo has been so necessary to the offense. He's a great player. When he recovers from pneumonia, I think he could be one of those league-winning type and quality of fantasy assets. And we're still waiting for CMC to return. Yeah, Debo's a good name. So the tandem there in San Francisco, potential difference makers, as we know this offense

and this team will be in the mix throughout the season i'll also highlight the upcoming schedule for san francisco wide receivers you're facing bottom you know 10 defenses against opposing fancy whiteouts for the next three matchups so something to pay attention to now mike you threw another name in. This one I think is worthy of more discussion because I think I – I don't know. I'm just down on this guy right now. I get that. And maybe that is exactly why you're bringing his name up.

And I've already brought him up a couple times, but I was bringing up Jalen Warren in the breath of, I think you should. I think you should go get him. He might be on some waivers. His value is about as low as it can possibly get because he's been hurt for the entirety of the year. He got hurt before the season with a hamstring, was really, really limited for those first three weeks,

and then he missed a couple games with a knee injury. So on sleeper, Jalen's 42% rostered. So he's a guy you could just aggressively go get with a priority or with fab, and it's looking at what's coming up here for Jalen Warren because the split, Najee's been great the last two weeks, but the split is back. Jalen Warren was back up, Najee's been great the last two weeks, but the split is back. Jalen Warren was back up to 51% of the snaps. He had 15 opportunities. So what has been happening with Najee, I think that that's going to come back down

and it's looking at, okay, if Russ is really the quarterback of this team, which he is, Russ is the quarterback now. Russell Wilson, last year at least, was a check down machine. He was in the Sean Payton offense, but you had that. And last year, Jalen Warren, 61 receptions, fifth most at the running back position. This is a guy that I think you can get off the waiver wire. And this is not a standard play.

This is a half, more preferably a PPR type of a play but he's someone who can go right into your flex and then can be a bi-week running back for you of that can change like the composition of your roster to get to get that type of a running back that you know I can play each and every week it's not gonna be great every week but there's gonna be times where he's going to hit. I think that he should be a priority at. Him and Jawan are my top go-to guys off of the waiver wire this week. Yeah, now before we move on,

I did want to throw out one more name that has just been on my heart. You know what? Do you know where I'm going? Of course I do. You do? Yes, because I can feel the... You can feel the excitement? I can feel the...

Does this player need to be in Difference Makers, Jason? This is a true Difference Maker. Yeah, I think you're talking about a... Maybe I don't know where you're going. I'm talking about a league winner. Oh, no, I'm not going Troy Franklin. Okay, that's all I can think of. That's in the waiver segment.

It's coming. Don't you worry. No, no, no. This is a true Difference Maker. I think a league winner. Okay. This is one of my guys. It's Devon Achan. Don't you worry. No, no, no. This is a true difference maker. I think a league winner. Okay. This is one of my guys. It's Devon Achan.

Devon Achan, I know over the last month, Andy, you and I have had back and forth discussions as to whether or not what you've seen is disheartening and maybe you don't believe. There are managers that just flat don't believe now. Even though Tua's been gone, they're just like, I don't know if he's that guy. Tua played a game and a half, and Devon Achan was the running back three over the first two weeks. Seven and three, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he was averaging 22.8 fantasy points a game. Over the next five weeks, the number one strength of schedule for running backs in the league is the Miami Dolphins.

So if you can find a manager who doesn't believe in Devon Achan or maybe you can do something, I would personally, I think that the matchup. Which is not a waiver pickup. It's a difference maker you could go trade for on the low. Exactly right. I think our only difference of opinion on him was the kind of, I felt like you were conceding that he's not an inside runner, and I don't believe that about him.

I actually think he is that, and they have to give him those opportunities. He is an inside runner against non-stacked boxes. Were you trying to say that the next five weeks they have the best schedule? Correct. So then is Raheem Mostert in the mix? Sure, yeah. I mean, I think the Dolphins offense should get better. Their running game should be great.

But specifically, I mean, there's a— They can with how high the ceiling is. Exactly. Look at us. Look at us. All right, that was Difference Makers presented by Iams Pet Food. When you choose Iams, you see the difference in your pet with your own eyes, healthy energy in five days, healthy digestion in 10 days,

and healthy skin and coat in just 25 days. Feed Iams and see a visible difference. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. You know, I'm just going to go make an offer on HN, I think. I see what you did there. Mike, you look like you were just about to. I'm just cackling because I feel like for the news today,

you got to take one of those big Ace Ventura breaths. This guy's injured, that guy's injured, this guy's injured, that guy's injured. Evans, Godwin, Ayuk, Debo Samuel, all injured. DK Metcalf, grade one MCL sprain week to week. Jaden Daniels, very much in doubt for week eight. We were all excited to see... That thing's all over the place, man. No, look, it's not. It's mama. It's mama

versus. That's all it is. No, not just mama. There was reporting yesterday like he's week to week, but there's optimism that he's going to be out there on Sunday, and then we're 24 hours later, and now it's very much in doubt. I believe this game was flexed. this was a game that

was changed a week ago because they wanted to see caleb williams against jayden daniels and so they moved it they wanted mariotta right yeah so that's what they're gonna get no i it's it would be disappointing not to see jayden and caleb in that matchup but they also understand this is a long game they they can win they can win the ball. They can win the ball game without him. They can. Jameson Williams. Here we are. This is big-time news. Knucklehead.

Following a minus-4 performance, now facing a two-game suspension for violating the NFL's performance-enhancing substances policy. And he has come out and said, while he disagrees with it he's going to take it on the chin so this is not he's not i i think you got it wrong but i'll go ahead and serve the suspension i'm not going to kind of fight this one uh don't look into it further so okay whatever that means you know he's going to miss i don't like it but i'm gonna serve

it yeah you guys are flat wrong I'll see you in three weeks. So, I mean, hugely disappointing. Another step backwards for Jamison Williams. Part of reliability is availability, and he's not going to be on the field. Can we get two weeks of Sam Laporta, please? I think we might. I think we might. That is more than two or one target. I guess they can just throw it to Gibbs. That's fine, too.

Or Tim Patrick. David Montgomery's knee injury not considered serious with more Lions reporting. It was... You all right, Jay? I'm just... Yeah, I'm good. I just want to make sure it's good. You want him to take a week off and get better? No! No, I want him to be a full

participant in the first practice possible because they have no worries. Okay. Tua Tungavailoa, we can talk about this. I mean, he's coming back from injured reserve. We have a definitive answer now on the Guardian cap. N-O. He said no.

He was very demonstrative and said it was a personal choice. When asked specifically, I don't know if you saw the whole clip, he said, I was on the sideline last week. I watched how stupid Devon Achan looked, and I was like, I can't look that dumb. At least that's what – he didn't really say that, of course. It's just a personal choice. But I've got to think that factored in.

You'd be surprised to learn that that press conference ignited the Twittersphere so I mean seeing discussions on you know just what are the actual true benefits of the Guardian cap what type of concussion does it prevent

from or help prevent I should say so I don't know the zone is now flooded with crap and it's hard to get through it prevent from, or help prevent, I should say. So I don't know. It is a, it is a. The zone is now flooded with crap and it's hard to get through it. Yeah, I mean, these things are not, I'm with Tua. I don't really want to play the judge of that man's body and decision making in the NFL because, you know, you can, you can wear a different piece of equipment for posterity sake and it may not benefit you.

You know, you, you do have to adjust that equipment. It's a fast moving game. He may not feel comfortable in that helmet. And I don't know the reasoning for it, but I mean, it is a different, it's a different feel. He's a quarterback and that might not be the best way for him to take care of his body. You know what I mean?

We, we talk about the implications of the old, you know, people come out with the narrative of, oh, if they just played in leather helmets or no helmets, there wouldn't be concussions because we'd take care of ourselves. There is an aspect of the subconscious that, well, does he take a different chance because he's got a guardian cap on? I don't know the answers to that. I'm just, I'm choosing.

There is nuance. I'm choosing to side with the player's decision and you know, if he feels like he can play and play safely, that's his choice. Yeah, it's really up to the NFL. If the NFL thinks that the players shouldn't have the choice and say that they were

coming out and saying like, hey, the first week back from a concussion, you have to wear a guardian cap. Well, then they need to institute that. Otherwise, it is a player's choice and obviously the player's not going to, you have to wear a guardian cap. Well, then they need to institute that. Otherwise, it is a player's choice. And obviously, the player's not going to... You know, I don't think Tua's trying to make a bad choice for himself. You know what I mean? No, he's not.

And he is going to mean so much for fantasy football. Oh, stay healthy to us. Jalen Waddell, Tyreek Hill will be reborn? Dude, I really think he should go out there in a red shirt this week and just see... If they don't hit him? Just see if the defensive players are like, oh, they pull up a little bit, you know?

My goodness. All right, Chris Olave is still in the concussion protocol. The most recent things I was reading is that they hope he can be back, but it was far from certain. Yeah, we got to watch practice reports. Spencer Rattler will remain the starting quarterback if Derek Carr can't play. Which he's not expected to play this week. Jonathan Taylor, the head coach of the Colts, Shane Steichen,

said he's optimistic he will practice. I would imagine so with such a mild ankle sprain. We will monitor that. Juju Smith-Schuster will not play. Yeah, I mean this seems like a serious hamstring injury, so when you know it this early, I wouldn't be surprised if he

misses multiple weeks. We are previewing the Thursday night football game tomorrow, but we're expecting Cooper Cup to be back and TJ Hawkinson could be back. Could be back. Hawkinson could be back okay could be back Aaron Jones limited but played really well

last week expect him to play okay deep breath over that was today's news and notes presented by USA insurance learn more at USA dot com slash insurance took us a while to get here we'll take a quick break and come back with the Waver Wire.

Welcome to the Waver Wire. All right, back from the bye, Caleb Williams and company, the Bears playing football, and Dallas. By the way, Jerry Jones, more comments this morning on the radio show. I don't know if you saw it. Oh, I saw it. He said Derrick Henry's having a career year. I don't think he would be in our offense in the system that we run,

and so that's one of the reasons we didn't sign him along with money. Okay. Mike, any comments? Jerry, shut up. Oh, that's actually good advice. That's my final comment. It's actually good advice because you haven't been saying a lot of things lately that have helped you out. Seriously? So for your own sake, because...

Shut it. Yeah, just because... Shut it. Because your family loves you. Shut up. It. Shut it. Because your family loves you. It was shut up. It was a little rude. So Jerry, you don't have to talk. You can just move on.

Stop flapping your lips, old man. Yeah. All right. No bye weeks this week. Okay. That means it's a busy week. Busy waivers. I just realized their shows got about 20 minutes longer on Thursday and Friday.

Don't worry, though, because four teams will be on by in week 10. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's just not possible. It's not possible to even it out. There's no way to do this. I just wanted just an explanation. There's no way to do it. Just why? Why does it work

out this way? Maybe there's a good answer. On the surface, it seems like there's not. I'm searching my brain for a good answer and I can't find one. A logistic reason why it needs to be this way, I just I don't know what it is. I'm sure there is. There's so much that has to go

into scheduling that's beyond what we consider like concert tours and all sorts of things. I mean, I can't imagine putting together an actual NFL schedule. That seems borderline impossible. If you told me that they do the math on which weeks they need more revenue from TV ratings or something silly, that would be a defining characteristic. Yeah, like sweeps or whatever. NFL sweeps a week?

I don't know. Oh, man. It's weird. That's a 90s cut. All right. I'll start at the running back position. And, you know, Jalen Warren's name is going to come up there. He's only 42% rostered.

He's probably at the near tippy top of the list if somebody like alexander madison's not available who got 23 carries look it's dirty nasty gross in las vegas where was this last year alexander he does look better this year than last year and uh got 70 of the snaps but he's rostered in 62% of leagues. Jason's been faithfully playing him. He's one of his stars. Oh, man. He has been one of my stars.

I mean, a lot of touchdowns. I don't believe he will be a star this week. No, no, no. Against Kansas City. Kansas City has been shutting down everyone. Their defense has made for ugly victories over and over and over, but every single week of the year. So I don't – you know, obviously if he's out there, you've got to pick him up.

You've got a roster guy who's getting the amount of works and utilization. He was top 10 in snap rate for the running back position this week. And so grab him. He's probably rostered though. And I don't want to start him this week. You have Jalen Warren, who we talked about extensively in Difference Makers. They play the Giants, then the Bi-Weeks. So that's the only trouble there.

Giants good defense. He's a bit part player. It's more of an investment in the future. That's the way I'd be looking at Warren. Obviously, you could spot start him. You could also spot start a player like Tyler Algier, who's 50% rostered, who will get some chances. You're always begging for a touchdown there.

It's really kind of gross to me at running back this week. Ray Davis's roster percentage is down at 29%. Buffalo Bill's running back rookie. You could try to get him and look at that as a committee. Scored last week, but only got six opportunities. Yeah, he wasn't on the field that much. When he got on the field, he still looked great. He looked just as good as the week prior. So, again, he might be earning more playing time. Right now, I'd say he's just an insurance back, a stash guy that you're picking up in case of an injury.

We have proof in the pudding of should Cook go down to injury, Ray Davis looks like a really solid. He should certainly be rostered, but again, probably not a play this week. If you want someone that you can... I don't want to spend fab this week. No, I think there are actually, across wide receivers and running backs,

a lot of really good $0 bids. Like, these aren't guys I'm paying up for or burning my waiver priority on, but there are a ton of shots you can shoot where you can put out a single dollar bid or a zero dollar bid. If you need a start, you know, we talked about Jalen Warren, but I would throw Justice Hill in there, a very similar type of player where he's involved in the passing game.

You know, this is a better offense. And even though Derrick Henry is king of the castle. King of the castle. You know. He's king of the hill too. Yeah. of the castle. King of the castle. He's king of the hill too. Yeah. Oh, nice. King of the Justice Hill. You didn't even mean that, did you?

No, of course I did. Okay. You don't have to just say it. You regretted it afterwards? No, I didn't regret it. I only regret it when you stated it like an explanation. Just let them have it. Justice Hill, though, the problem is there's been three good weeks

and four bad ones, and so you are rolling the dice. That's what they all feel like this week outside of even Jalen Warren. Look, I'm going to throw this out there. Cordero Patterson's back this week. There's a three-headed monster in Pittsburgh that makes it. It's been reported that he is. Yeah. No, I'm just saying it could be a three-headed monster.

It could be a three-headed monster. We haven't seen what the Arthur Smith Steelers actually looks like when all three of them are really ready to go. The name I will throw out here, because the running backs are mostly just like pad, pick up your insurance running backs at this point. We don't know what the status of Travis Etienne is. And Tank Bigsby is their primary guy when they're winning. But the Jaguars are playing Green Bay this week.

I think that Dearness Johnson is going to be on the field a ton. He had nine carries and four targets this past week. And if you were watching the game at the beginning when they were down 10-0, Tank Bixby was doing nothing. So it's nasty. That's a 50-point over-under in that game, and I'm guessing Green Bay is probably favored by... 42. Yeah, it's wild.

I'm going to guess eight. I don't know. Is it in Jacksonvilleville it is yes then i'll say five or six so that's if you are really struggling four and a half i think that there there's a chance that he is that dearness is on the field a lot this with the lack of sexy in these names are you gonna let a braylon allen go or a devin no i'm not letting braylon go these are the guys you need to pick up right now Blake Corum doing nothing while Kyron is out there 90% of snaps and owning everything but listen to the other part of that Kyron's out there 90% of snaps

he's gonna snap he could snap he snapped in the past so um these type of insurance backs are those cheap bids that people people aren't going hard after insurance backs right now, but they need to be rostered so that next week when the waiver wire comes after injury and you go, everyone's got to spend all your flab on flab. What? Just dump your flab off your body. We've got to shed these LBs. I didn't even know that was an option.

I can spend it? You can spend your flab. Flab or flab to pick body. We've got to shed these LBs. I didn't even know that was an option. I can spend it? You can spend your flab. Fab or flab to pick up these players. But when we're saying next week on Blake Quorum or Braylon Allen that you've got to lose all the weight on them, you'll already

have them on your roster. And, you know, if you have a struggle in losing weight, now you don't have to. Al just said he's getting every player. I've got so much more flab than you guys. Hey, speak for yourself, man. I still got plenty. You're working on your flab. I'm working on it, but I've got a lot left to love.

So you guys will get the players. Look, if we turn the page to wide receivers, I want to know not whether or not you pick up Juwan Jennings and Ricky Pearsall. Those are going to be tippy-top of the list pickups. It's more how much do you invest and what are you willing to lose to do it? Are we at the point now where, yes, we love Josh Downs, but no, he's not going to have a quarterback the rest of the year, so we're going to go trade him in and get a Ricky Pearsall or a Juwan Jennings?

I would punt Josh Downs off a bridge if I needed to have someone I could start. If this is an opportunity, like if I need to start him, putting Josh Downs on your roster to me is like putting Blake Corham on your roster. He could be great if his quarterback goes down. Is that dropping the flab is like when you let a guy go off of the team? Oh, man, you're trimming. You're trimming the flab? Trimming the fat.

And spinning the fab. Yeah, I think guys like that you can let go. Jawan Jennings and Ricky Pearsall, you're going to burn your waiver priority. You're going to spend a good amount of fab. I want to know what that is and if they're the same amount or what. I am personally less bullish than most. I'm not sure Jawan Jennings plays. It's possible.

If he doesn't play this week, they have a bye week next week. So there's a good – There's an advantage to maybe sitting him. Right. And so I guess I don't want to burn my priority or dump 25-35 fab on a player that maybe will be good three weeks from now if I can't play him this week now you might drop 25 and play him this week and have a star I don't know but that's where I would rather I would rather put Pearsall in my priority because I don't know that he's going to

be as good as Juwan Jennings but I know he's playing football yeah I think that's a team construction differential because even if I would spend it on juwan if juwan doesn't play for three weeks i don't care i think that i think he's going to if you could pick up he's so good think about how bad brandon ayuk has been and if brandon was on the waiver wire and healthy like juwan jennings was actually productive i would spend a lot of i if i had the the capacity to withstand the next couple of weeks and And he could play, like you said. Yeah, I would go after that. There are three names that are really highly rostered that are on our waiver list.

By the way, join the foot.com, get access to the ultimate dashboard, and get a custom waiver wire list specific to each of your leagues. Like the ultimate dashboard lets you import your leagues and your rosters, as many as you got, and you can go through each one and not only get your lineup optimized, but get spot starts from the waiver wire and a custom waiver list specific to who's available in your league. So much of what we talk about in the show is just kind of bringing up why a player might be valuable. There's so much interleague context that you need to have.

And two notes on that. One, the spot starts to what is I just I got a lot of body on the mind. I'm trying to remove flab and healthy BMS here, but that tool is so valuable later in the week when you're when you're sitting there Saturday and you're not sure if you made the right waiver pickup, the spot start is awesome. You just go through your leagues and say, man, this guy could outscore someone in my lineup. But the other part is we do an hour, hour and 10 minutes trying to give you as much information as we can. We do not cover all the players in our waiver pickups. The tool online has far more

players than the players we're mentioning here, and they'll be specific to your league. So check that out at jointhefoot.com. So the three higher rostered are Jerry Judy, Khalil Shakir, and Romeo Dobbs. Dobbs was 8 for 94 this past week, so two good weeks since he's returned from his hissy fit. Cedric Tillman, 8 for 81 on 12 targets. Seems like a concerted effort to develop Cedric Tillman in this offense. I mentioned in the office I was – This is Cleveland, by the way. Yeah, the Cleveland Browns. He's a concerted effort to develop Cedric Tillman in this offense. I mentioned in the

office. This is Cleveland, by the way. Yeah, the Cleveland Browns. He's a second-year player. And after the Amari Cooper trade and breaking everything down, I was like, I regret not at least mentioning Cedric Tillman because it's like, is Jerry Judy good? Looking at the

career of Jerry Judy, is he a really good player? And I think he's just, he's fine. I've career of Jerry Judy is he a really good player and I think he's just he's fine like I've seen enough Jerry Judy say he can get things done every once in a while I don't blame you though because Cedric Tillman had five targets on the year he was

atrocious his rookie year no I mean this year this year he had five targets in six weeks so I don't blame you for not bringing him up because we all expected it to be Elijah Moore David Njoku Jerry Judy and also gross yes so now it's all changing yes and it's but he was a third round pick his rookie year was uh I mean like if you're looking at peripherals was disastrous but Cedric Tillman over the off season heading into this season

he was one of the names from the cleveland browns training camp that was like year two for cedric tillman's looking a lot better now obviously that that didn't happen right away but amari cooper leaving they're like jerry judy doesn't play the same type of he's not the same archetype of wide receiver as amari cooper where Tillman's an outside wide receiver do you remember the bar that you could ride ice skates over yeah yeah the Josh character the Josh's character yeah Papa Josh

his actual like fundamental personality that's kind of the same kind of bar that Jerry Judy and Elijah Moore have set on the ground for Cedric Tillman so look if it's Winston I'm more excited about that pickup. I would agree.

But he's available in 100% of leagues. But 12 targets this past week. Don't ignore the targets. Eight for 81. Meanwhile, like, Jerry Judy was at five targets. So, this is low probability stuff, but he is a second-year wide receiver. He was a day-two pick out of Tennessee. I liked Tillman.

I thought that he was a very interesting outside wide receiver, knowing it could take some time for him to actually develop in the NFL. But the opportunity in front of him is – this is a major break for him of trading Amari Cooper away and having the potential of Jameis Winston, which we don't – have we gotten any more news on what the Browns are planning to do? No, I haven't seen anything. I would imagine that they're going to do the NFL coaching thing and we're not going to know until late in the week.

Hopefully we know like Friday they announce a starter, but maybe earlier I doubt it. I have a really difficult time with Cedric Tillman when you've been as bad as he's been. I get it. I know he's only in his second year, which honestly surprised me. He was so bad, I thought he was drafted like 20 years ago. It's difficult, but 12 targets, 82% of snaps, and he goes into a role that it was vacated. I get it.

You've got to pay attention to that. What was your reaction to Keon Coleman's 4-for-1 25 this past week? Because I think a lot of people would expect us to have brought his name up first. He's a rookie. We know rookies take time to develop. Amari Cooper, you know, none of Coleman's targets came directly because Amari Cooper was on the football field. But you can see that being a good outcome potentially for him,

the way that T. Higgins and Jamar Chase benefit one another. Not a big passing pie, but an efficient one. Coleman's difficult. He's worth adding 100%. It's just the level of how aggressive would you go after him where – Would you rather have him or Dontantavian wicks um on your on your team because both are pretty available i think i'd go i think i'd go wicks i i like coleman there but it's jason not man i was really hoping you didn't ask me yeah it's not it's it's not a huge if you're wearing a black shirt today, I would not have asked you,

but because you're wearing a slightly forest green olive hue, I will ask you. I'm going to go Coleman. Like a Packers shirt. Yeah, I'm going to go Coleman simply because this is a highly drafted rookie. He is a, you know, the opportunities are going to be forced his direction a little bit more than Wicks. Wicks this last game, like I would take Dobbs over either of them. Obviously he's more rostered, but Dobbs is on the field.

His targets are a little bit more assured. When you look at Wicks and Christian Watson, they're basically playing the same role, and they're kind of splitting the snaps while Reed and Dobbs are just on the field. So Eileen, I would take Coleman there. I want to bring up, we talked about the 49er wide receivers. There's been some rumors this morning about the zero-target Cortland Sutton to San Francisco.

We already know that there was some rumors about Cortland Sutton going to the 49ers during the Iuke saga because there were some three-way trade discussions about Iuke leaving, Sutton being the piece coming over to San Francisco. Do it. The Denver Broncos. Is that Troy Franklin related? That's Troy Franklin, baby.

The Denver Broncos are clearly committed to Franklin and Vele and Mims and the young crowd. So I say all that to say keep that in mind with the 49er receivers you pick up and keep that in mind when you look at the development of a young player like Troy Franklin and Vele in Denver who, again, they're going to have to depend on a rookie quarterback who has been hit and miss. But this past week, Troy Franklin was 5 for 50 on 51% of snaps.

Okay. He's moving up. I mean, that's fine. If you look at the last two weeks. I don't want to make too much of it. No, but if you look at the last two weeks, there's been a shift. You still have Cortland Sutton as the clear snap leader in the wide receivers. He is their one, despite having no targets last week.

He's the one no matter what, unless he gets traded, in which case, oh, man, the pants are evaporating. You want him to take some of the zero targets from Sutton this next week I want him to take the snaps because I think he can earn targets you've got him right now over the last two weeks he is leading in targets he's leading in receptions

he's second behind Valle in total yards obviously had a touchdown made and a touchdown dropped in the last two weeks so why isn't vele on this list vele should absolutely be on this list this is a denver broncos team with bow nicks that is getting the youth more involved their offense looks like they're they're clicking a little bit more they're certainly not even middle of the pack or high powered offense yet

but this is the path of a rookie and you know we talk about this with rookie wide receivers despite the fact that you see someone like Malik Nabors come out and dominate, and even Brian Thomas Jr. Most rookie wide receivers are better in the second half of the year than the first half of the year. So if the opportunities come around for both those players, I think they can be rostered and played. There are so many wide receivers.

Jalen McMillan, Rashad Bateman. That's why I'm saying this week is like I want to take $0 bids. I like Troy Franklin. I'm going to put a $0 bid on him. If I don't get him, fine. There's a handful. Demario Douglas, he had a down week, but Drake May looked great, and the down week was because he had an illness.

Yeah, and Bateman, four catches in three straight games, big play capability. Bob Means would get a start for the New Orleans Saints, who signed MVS, so don't care about that. But Bob Means would get a start if Olave was still out. And Jalen McMillan, not rostered. Opportunity with Baker, who's playing great football. And I don't want to just condemn the Buccaneers,

who are a pretty good football team, to not being competent. There's a world where Evans comes back in a few weeks and McMillan's contributing and Ott and Rashad White, and they're okay on offense. And it's an important game. They're going to be at home against the Falcons for the division lead. Whoever wins that game will be in the lead. So I think $0 bids personally on McMillan and Sterling Shepard.

If you want to put a little bit more fab on McMillan, that makes sense because I think he will. Yeah, he's far ahead of Shepard to me. Yeah, that's fine. And he will go for more. Like Shepard will go probably through your waivers without getting picked up. McMillan will be one of the heavier bid prices.

The drop candidate names are wild, guys, but it's Juju, who could miss multiple weeks. It's Christian Watson, who is irrelevant. I mean, if you're talking about Wicks and Dobbs, and you've got Reed and Kraft, and Watson's not part of that, that's a tough one. You might have invested fab last week on Christian Watson. Yeah, I don't think, I would be fine dropping Juju Smith-Schuster. I would be fine dropping Josh Downs without Flacco. Tank Dell and Marvin Harrison's names were submitted to us. A lot of people are asking about those,

and those are supremely easy don't drops for me. I mean, the list of people we're talking about today, how much fab are you going to spend on these players? If those guys were out there, I would go all in. I mean, Marvin Harrison has been struggling, but he is still a very talented rookie wide receiver who should be the one for his team. Tank Dell has been struggling.

His targets were there. The red zone was there. The matchup this week is there the hard one with dell is like the targets like him and ridley are identical in fantasy production per game and ridley has 17 targets and three catches in the last two weeks dell hasn't made the most of his both of those players where do they fit into the the mold then mike of all these different names are you adding juwan jennings and dropping those two players uh juwan i would uh for the for for not marv not marv i mean that that one's outrageous tank dell or juwan i think is that one's really really

hard because you gotta manufacture wins right now. I think long-term, I would rather have Jawan Jennings. But this week, you might need Tank Dell. And Jason's right. Tank Dell, process-wise, is in a very good spot this week. At home against Indy, right? I believe so. So that is a really difficult team construction question. Do you have any comments on Calvin Ridley if he's sitting on a waiver wire?

Because he's been dropped by a lot of people. I would not be aggressively adding him. At tight end, to me, Cade Otten and Hunter Henry top the list. Yes. Both of them are going to be – Hunter Henry has an opportunity with Drake May and the yardage he's putting up to be an every week player. Kate Otten in the absence of those star wide receivers. I don't know how he survived the game.

Kate Otten took so many hits at such high rate of speed that like if I was like if I had to choose who needs a guardian cap more than Tua, it would be Kate Otten. Yeah, because it was Scott Sterling. It was always to the head, man. It was over and over. And rapidly. These were not like one in the first quarter, and then you get to the fourth. It felt like they were moments apart. Four plays in a row, and then it was like the fourth play.

He's running down the sideline. Guy comes out with a baseball bat right to the helmet. It was flagged. They didn't call it. Oh, they did call it. They didn't call it. They have a rule against no baseball bats. But it just felt like they were targeting.

It was a fan or a player? It was a player. Wow. Yeah, player coach. Gotcha. What? Do you buy into the one-week wonder of Johnny Smith now that Tua's back? No.

I think Johnny Smith, who had a crazy 30-plus percent target share. Seven for 96 in a touchdown. I will say that Johnny Smith is not a bad player, is involved in the offense, and I don't think just evaporates, but he's not going to be the number one target in this offense with Tua. Would you spend up on K-Dot? I think I would if you're in need. How much fab?

10%? On Henry, I would go you're in need. How much fab? 10%? Otten and Henry, I would go. Yeah, I would say 10 fab. I'd be aggressive assuming I don't have a solution at the tight end position. I'll just real quick for Joni. Would you move on from Dalton Kincaid to one of those players? Not yet. I want to see

Amari Cooper. Sam Laporta to one of those players? No. Not while Jamison's out. But for Janu, he's had seven targets, seven or more targets in three games this year. I know everything's wonky for Miami, but during the bye week. He had a good two a game. During the bye week, the coaching staff was, I mean, I believe Coach Speak on Twitter had put it out that, like,

they're talking about Jonu, and then to be talking about it, and then he gets seven targets. The production was like, that's the icing. It was just, will the opportunity actually show up? And it did. So he's on the radar. You will get tight end screens to Jonu Smith, and whether he does something with him will change whether your week is good.

Here's one of the cool perks of Jonu. I will add this in there. Every single time you throw him the football, you didn't throw it to Odell Beckham. Oh, that is. To be fair, Odell Beckham is not really playing football anymore. Like I've watched. He is not playing football. Defense is your keyed in on this week.

I picked up Detroit in a few leagues last week, knowing they played Tennessee and the Levis Rudolph Wolf Fest. Detroit's 10.5-point favorites, Tennessee, will be putrid. Baltimore plays Cleveland. Dear goodness. Cleveland hasn't scored 20 all year. Yeah, that's a strong play. I'm perfectly fine with the Chargers against Spencer Rattail, as he's called.

What? Spencer Rattail? I'm sharing Kyle's jokes. And I'm sure he's behind a video camera laughing hysterically right now. To add on to your Chargers, not only do they play Spencer Rattail this week, but then they play the Cleveland Browns the next week. That's great. And then they play the Tennessee Titans.

You're really looking when you're... You're chasing the quarterback opponent. You're going to get Derek Carbett. You want touchdowns. You want sacks and turnovers. You're talking about the Chargers. New Orleans, Cleveland, Tennessee. Not who Spencer Rappler is playing.

Houston plays Indy and Anthony Richardson, who is both mistake-prone and inept at scoring points. I know he had a good game against them earlier in the year. It was on the back of two bombs. Can he sustain drives, or do the Houston Texans give up big bomb plays? I don't know. And Green Bay. They're on the road, so don't

necessarily love that, but Green Bay's defense is an actually good defense, and Jacksonville, I think, will struggle. Alright, let's talk quarterbacks. Full stream ahead. Well, this is fun. We're talking streaming quarterback options,

and for the first time ever, I'm going to bring Patrick Mahomes' name up. Wow. This is literally the first and only time he has ever been allowed to be a streaming quarterback. Oh, he is very much a – this is not a confident stream. I wouldn't play him. See this is not a confident stream. I wouldn't play him. This is a maybe stream. This is a history stream.

Like he's a 302 guy. Actually, 302 and a half against the Raiders historically. He dominates them. And he's never been mentioned in this segment before, but he just kills the Raiders. You know, this is just – you're not saying 403. You're saying 202. That is the streaming standard of our show.

I think he can put up 200 yards and two touchdowns against the Raiders. That's all I'm saying. Well, that will be a feat he has, let me done in week one so that's cool um anyways uh i'm gonna go with kirk cousins he had a down week this last uh week at home was it two straight down weeks after we chased the 500 yeah i just feel like he's been on this segment for a while two weeks ago was a little bit mediocre last last week was Last week was worse. Yeah, it was worse. But if you remember the week prior to that, who was his opponent when he put up the 509 yards and four touchdowns? It was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

I looked up the weather just because whenever it's a game in Tampa or certain locations, I want to make sure that's not an issue. Looks like a nice 81 degrees and overcast. So we're fine. My concern would be that have that that tampa bay team was able to put up 30 points can this tampa bay team put up that many points i don't know and i think i kyle correct me if i'm wrong last year when these two teams played we had the shootout in atlanta and then when they matched up in tampa bay i mean which shouldn't have an effect but that's what happened last year.

So that's my only question. Obviously, this was in before losing both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. It certainly does hurt the ceiling. I think that he – Yeah, 16-13 in Tampa last year. Right, obviously different quarterbacks and different teams. Yeah, of course. I'm going with the rookie.

I'm taking Bonix. Bonix. Bon I'm going with the rookie. I'm taking Bo Nix. The Broncos rookie. He is playing the Carolina Panthers. Hold on to your butts, everybody, because the Broncos team implied total this week is almost 26 points. Well, looky there.

Look at the Broncos. Look at the little guys getting there. Short fields. Eight-point home favorites. Great defense. Against the Carolina Panthers. And Bo Nix is a dual-threat quarterback right now. He's averaging 36. Last two weeks, we've got 10 for 75, 6 for 61.

So he's not unwilling to do that, and that's a huge boost, especially when you're looking at a streamer streamer at home stream at home with with a huge point total against a bad team so he's in play over the course of this season so this isn't like oh the last two weeks when he's had big runs or whatever this is the the seven games played he's on pace for 619 rushing yards that is that is a very dual-threat quarterback, and I think people really need to adjust their... Hey, you want to hear something? Yeah, I do.

Who's got more fantasy points? Bo Nix, starting quarterback of the Denver Broncos, or back-to-back Super Bowl champion Patrick Mahomes? That's an easy one. A lot of people have more fantasy points than Patrick Mahomes. Marcus Mariota, I believe, just had a three-quarter performance that was more fantasy points than Patrick Mahomes has had in a game. The Mariota game was wild.

He was sixth on the week. 18 for 23, 205 and two. Who has more fantasy points, Patrick Mahomes or Daniel Jones, who has not thrown a passing touchdown at home in forever? In forever. I mean, I guess Daniel Jones. That is correct. Yeah, that's fun.

But Mariota looked so inept to start that game. But he got it together. Somehow Kyler Murray's a drop candidate on here. Kyler Murray, you know, I know it wasn't pretty at all times yesterday. He was still a top-ten quarterback this week. We did get a number of players that on Monday kind of lifted the bar for the quarterback. The top two quarterbacks of the week were Lamar and Baker in the game. I do want to throw out a name.

You know, this is waivers. He's not a streaming candidate for this week. Plays on the road against San Francisco. But Dak Prescott's been bad. He has not been lighting up the box scores. He's coming off a bye and on the road in San Francisco. He's going to be on waivers. He's going to be dropped on waivers this week.

The rest of season after that. You should do that, Jay. So he's on our waivers. So what you said was true. No, no, no, no. So what you said was true. I picked him up already for the stretch run Atlanta Philly Houston Washington

the Giants Cincinnati Bengals then you get to the playoffs Carolina Tampa Bay Philly like it's just like last year it is a golden goose of passing opponents on the second half of the season yeah I I'll be very curious to see you know i'd love to see the repeat

for the sake of cd lamb and jake ferguson and the offense but i also feel like hanging in the balance slightly more this year is the collapse of the cowboys because their defense has been so bad and because jerry jones is hanging over this team like a crypt keeping... What's one of those creatures in Harry Potter that sucks the... Yeah, he's like kind of a Dementor owner. Yeah, I get that. You know what I mean? Yeah, he's hovering around the hallways and if you get too close, he will take your soul. Jerry Jones

just recently quote, the type of things that we all think we should be looking at is we're designing bad plays or we're designing bad concepts. Okay. but that's the whole thing that's the like this jerry jones is he's on a heater every everybody is under this bus now he is you know who's done a great job though jerry jones i'm i'm pretty sure he's just done up no one one could do a better job than Jerry Jones this time. What age do you think your cognitive and general manager abilities peak?

Do you believe it is A, 30 years old, B, 40 years old, or C, 82 years old? B. If I had to go with those three numbers, I would put the cap at 40 then. So you're saying it's not C, 82 years old. I think that that is not in the best interest of. He did just celebrate his 82nd birthday. Happy birthday, Jerry. You're doing a great job.

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