Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 8 Waivers & Streamers + Jason’s Soul Melts - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/21

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Oct 21, 2025. Waiver Wire pickups for Week 8! Find out which players to target in your fantasy football leagues, and which players can be dropped. Plus, QB streamers, injury updates, and a recap of the Monday Night Football doubleheader. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.(00:00) Intro(05:10) Monday Night Recap(15:55) News & Notes(24:30) Waiver Wire(25:25) RB Waivers(32:15) WR Waivers(42:10) TE Waivers(46:17) DST Waivers(52:55) QB StreamersConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Fantasy Footballer's Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Tuesday, October 21st, it's a waiver day where we wave goodbye to a good friend of ours. Jason is here, everybody. Jason is present. He may not speak. He might be on mute of his own accord. I said yesterday on the show, I really think. thought you could win last night. I said Ken Walker is, he is just his own thing. I needed

Ken Walker and Nico Collins to have bad games. And they did. And they did. And you, you, uh, unfortunately, instead of the like really quick, just, you know, one swing of the sword off with his head, quick and easy death. I said it at the beginning of the games. Like, I just wanted a breakaway walker touchdown or a Nico bomb I just needed it right off the bat and it wasn't the nice thing was with the back-to-back double header

I had David Montgomery in the first game they had whoever losers in the second and I had it was at about the six hour mark of watching where I finally lost. One drip of blood per second just I mean it was like

and then you were out it was literally like dying from a cut on the tip of my finger where it's like it just won't this is no problem it's not gonna you know it's just a little thing it's that but for some reason we'll stop bleeding it was a final score six hours later

I've bled out the final score let me look that up it appears that it was 144 point five six points that's important to 144.8 points. You were the 5.6. I was the 5.6. I wish I just didn't play a defense.

And Papa Josh over there was the 8-8? Yeah. So, but Andy, thank you made a midweek trade for a defense. Thank you for trading me the Pittsburgh Steelers against Cincinnati, who scored when we count negative one point, which was the difference. Which you kind of prophesied. Yeah. You kind of knew that that might be the case. I thought about it this morning. I was like, whose fault is this? And I realized, it's my own. Okay, good.

This is my fault. It's definitely your fault. Yeah, yeah, it is. Did you, I mean, is this a very clear, I'd rather lose by 100 than lose by this amount? There's no doubt. Because you thought on Thursday the game was, you thought it was all over on Thursday. And I'm going to get blown out. The projections had you down by 50, 60 points.

Yeah, because I started with negative one for my defense and then Darren Waller gets hurt. Yeah, so it was over early and then my team went nuclear and caught up and then not enough. Should have played Michael Pittman. No, because I played Chris Oliva over Pittman. No, I'm saying over David Montgomery. Well, sure, yeah. I guess Monty. Against Tampa Bay?

Okay, okay. This is why I said it's your fault. No, I agree. I don't think it's my fault. I don't think it's important. Everybody listening understands fantasy football is stupid. we're back This is the dumb dumb game

Oh this game's great Mike won by a lot Yeah this week If you were curious Just the most points You two right now You should fight to the death I guess what is dead may never die

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For each and every league That you have import them all from NFL Yahoo Sleeper, ESPN, and get access to a ton of premium tools and resources. It is go time. We are going into week eight. It is a massive buy week situation with six different teams on buy,

and today's a waiver show. So we'll be talking through the big pickups as well. So funny now. What happened? I just saw that Al Borland let me know that Jason's eyes have been closed for 13. 30 seconds. To be fair when he said that I was just looking down.

I was looking at this little stylist that I had and I was. Oh, no. Take that away from him. He knows where his jugular is. Yeah, seeing what I can do here. So Monday, Monday night football. Yes, lions, 24, Buccaneers 9. And it was, uh, that game was so weird because I felt like the lions were dominating the whole time.

They were. But the Buccaneers were in it the whole time. But they were not dominating the whole time per the scoreboard. I mean, that's a healthy win at the end. Was it three turnovers, though? The Buccaneers caused. I mean, one Jared Gough interception and a couple of fumbles, I think. I don't recall where that ended up.

Both teams turned the ball over a couple of times. I will say this. The game feels like it should have been darn near tight. Baker played poorly. Like, he overthrew. He missed a lot of throws. Yeah, I mean, it was crazy because. Miss Tess Johnson for a second touchdown.

It was this weird. combination of he created the play, found space in the pocket, moved around, saw the right read, through the right read to the open guy. He did like 90%, 90%, but every time he was just overthrown guys. And we haven't seen that all year from Baker. If he if he hit like five of those overthrows, I mean, Tampa might have won this game. I have a lot of thoughts on the Tampa side after this game because one of the big pieces of news coming out of this. this was Mike Evans returned, and then Mike Evans got a concussion and broke his collarbone and is out for the season.

Certainly for the fantasy season. I mean, yeah. There's a chance he would. Usually, what, four to six weeks? Yeah. And he, you know, the team has come out and said it's likely season ending. The team has said that. Oh, did they?

So whatever happened is, it's going to require, you know, some repair. For this team, I think there are some big takeaways we need to pay attention to. Chris Godwin when he was playing was not very good and now he's out again with injury there are two names like Abuka is going to be amazing yeah Abuka had 12 targets last night only caught four of them part of the problem was the Baker throws Abuka had two

two times in which the ball was like dropping into his lap for a touchdown where a fingertip or a part of a hand of I mean amazing defense performance one of them was a helmet of the opponent but yeah they're like where it was almost perfect and just barely tipped away. So he had four catches, 58 yards, 12 targets in this game where he was supposedly hurt coming into it. But the two players, I think, are really, they really matter. Yeah.

K. Totten really matters. Yeah, sure. And Tess Johnson really matters to me. Looks great. He looks great. Because watching him, that's it. He looks great. He's very fast.

Shifty. And he's going to get better. You saw during the game, there's quite a few mistakes. Like, Tess Johnson made a bunch of. a boneheaded rookie. He ran into Mike Evans at one point. I think he ran the wrong route. He had two mistakes. Very early. But when it worked, he worked. I mean, he's, he's a fast twitchy player who is very, very needed. Once he has the ball in his hands, he's, you know, it's not like he's difficult to bring down. He's a tiny guy, but he's difficult to catch so

fast. So I agree completely. Kate Otten, Tess Johnson, Abuka, they are going to be important for fantasy full season, especially now with Mike Evans out. Now, when Chris Godwin comes back, that could put a hamper on on Tess. It's possible, but you mentioned this like Baker, he just goes to whoever is open. You know, he's done that. So I think that there's a world where Taz is relevant.

So that's just one observation was just how well he played. I was with you. He made the mistakes, but he was also a go-to receiver at times for Baker. You know that Shepard is just, 7 for 25 is the most Sterling Shepard line ever. That's why I wasn't in on him is 7 for 25. He can catch the most passes. He got 100% of his targets, which he had a lot of targets,

but they're not good for fantasy. Sterling Shepard is, if you don't get a broken play touchdown or something, you're not going to be happy with Shepard. Jamir Gibbs, all he did was rush for 136 and 2 and then like catch three passes for 82 more yards. Got caught. Yeah, that was so impressive. I have golf. Thankfully, it didn't matter.

But man, that was frustrating of this. You're like, here we go. Let's pad them stats. Monster Gibbs receiving touchdown. Gets caught. And then they give him the rushing touchdown. That's what the funny thing about these like, come on, man. These like, I hit this many miles per hour.

Like there's always like, wow, he's running at this. You don't run that fast the entire run. Like you might hit 22, but then the DB might hit 22 like five seconds later for longer and catch you. Let's just be happy with the massive Gets. Yeah, it was a great game for Gibbs. And then. And Monty, it wasn't. No, it was not good for Monty.

It was not good for Jameson Williams. And Jamo Williams. After six for 66 and a touchdown, he was targeted twice for no catches. Old goose. Yeah, I mean, in a game, obviously part of this is, part of

this is the fact that the lions were up and that the buccaneers were not able, despite the depleted secondary of the lions. Baker kept overthrowing, and turning the ball over, and so the lions weren't forced to keep throwing the ball. This was supposed to be a very high

over-under, you know, a high-scoring affair. I loved the passing attack for both games. It turned out to not play out that way. Gibbs took over, and then they just kept running the ball, and we're fine to do that, and win the game easily. He's rushing roulette at this point.

J-M-O. J-M-O. I mean, it is. It's just like one out of six I don't know about that I think you might have a couple empty chambers out of six two

two out of seven yeah yeah but that doesn't work with the six shooter Mike yeah it's no such thing as a seven shooter I'm just saying five out of seven shooter what are you talking about

Mike are you even saying it's a custom Jameson Williams five of seven have destroyed your week it is a custom all right Kenneth Walker 17 for 66. Also, what, how was that not a P.I. on Isaac Tesla? What was that all about? That was, but that's stupid.

It's not stupid to you. Ken Walker 12 for 49 and 2, or sorry, Zach Charbonnet 12 for 49 and two touchdowns. Ken Walker, 17 for 66. That's a lot of work for not a lot of not a lot of juice. What is that about three of carry? Yeah, yeah.

It's about three yards enough. Yeah, I mean, they just, oh yeah, that was the player that he's 3.9. Okay, about four yards enough. Zach Charbonnetes, he had a couple of one-yard carries because he was on the goal line and he, he is their guy. Like if I was starting a player week to week, unfortunately. You got it. Yeah. Charts has been, Charts has been very startable more than he has not been. I mean, when you, when you start him and he doesn't score, it's a really bad output. But as of right now,

that you could say the same thing for Ken Walker. And Jackson Smith and, Jakeba, if it wasn't proven already, which it was, he just continues to establish that he is in the tier one. Not like good. He's in the tier one. He's up there. When you talk about you know, over the last couple years, the Jamar Chase, the Justin Jefferson, just the best of the best, maybe you want to put Amman Raw in that category. JSN, he is that dude. Welcome to the party, dude. He is, he is in that tier, 14 targets. His first street targets, his target share, the offense, what we're seeing from Sam Darnold, is fully capable of dominating.

And he dominates in every aspect of the field. It doesn't matter if you double cover him. He's got great hands. He does all the little tiny, shifty things that you don't notice that just get him open. And he is the reason this offense works. Yeah, he was amazing. And then their second leading receiver was Elijah Arroyo for 42 yards. like Cooper Cup caught the very, very early touchdown pass

and never had another target or catch. Tori Horton, three targets, no catches. It's the JSN experience, and it just works. Like, sometimes you're like, oh, that can't work forever. Well, it does when you have Justin Jefferson, and it does when you have Jamar Chase and it does with JSN. Yeah, Amun Raw is the same thing. Ten targets for him.

Three would have been second place on the team. Yeah, yep. And then John Schultz. Dalton Schultz, nine for 98. Dude. Offense looked broken again. The Texan's offense is so bad. I was watching this, realizing they are very, the Texans team, very similar to the Cardinals.

Like, we watch the Cardinals, and their defense is good. Their defense keeps them in these games, and their offense is inept, at least with Kylin. And so watching this, it's pathetic. It is absolute, and not only, and it's across the board, right? It's the play, it's the players, it's the play calling. I mean, the amount of times in critical situations that they were like, we need to take this ball and hand it to a running back with no other options and run straight up the middle with our terrible offensive line,

you know, against a good rushdie. That's just the only thing we got to do, man. And it's because we got to have it. We've got to have this first down. So it didn't work this play. But you know what? Hey, call it in it again. Call it in again.

Do it right up the middle. We got Woody Marks, man 10 for 15 for woody marks it's just it was with a long of 11 yeah oh my gosh a long of 11 and he's 10 for 15 i mean nick chub 5 for 16 we are not far removed from two games in which the the stroud let offense looked amazing yeah four touchdowns was that against oh baltimore yeah without defenders yeah well i just you thought maybe they got they were getting it going exactly and nico four for 27 and a concussion dalton shultz 10 targets i mean jalen Noel. Four for 77. If you picked up Jaden Higgins, whoops, zero. Three targets, but

didn't connect on any of them. I guess the rookie that you want is Jalen Noel, who actually looked. I don't think you want any of them. I agree. You don't want any of them. I will say this, going into next week, next week, if Nico is in concussion protocol, there will be someone. Maybe it is, Dalton Schultz? Gross. It's all gross here, man. Well, how fast was he on his catches? He had a long of 22. Okay. He must have caught the ball about 22 yards down the field.

We're 15 minutes into the show. You feel any better, Jay? No. News and notes from Around the League, presented by progressive insurance. I mean, Mike Evans, it was a concussion and fractured collarbone on the same play. That's basically a car crash. Yeah, wow, that really is. I mean, it was awful.

He just was out on the field and really sad to see. And then it was very confusing because they're like, we don't know what the injury is. It's all of them. I'm like, well, you know what the injury was. He was out. Yeah. And then it was also his shoulder, just brutal.

It's going to bring it into the streak. I mean, Mike, out of his 1,000-yard season streak is going to be over. Lamar Jackson By the way I think we made a bet On the thousand yard season for Mike Evans Oh shoot And I'm gonna I'm gonna wipe it

Oh that's nice Because it was based on a reboot I'm wiping it You're not responsible Because I don't want to win that way He I wanted it on I thought on performance You wouldn't get there

All right So we'll just We'll wipe that out You should make Jason send it to you I said I already send it back I already sent you like 700 bucks So you got to send it back Lamar Jackson did not practice on Monday coming out of the biweek

That is not good It's a huge deal I mean when you're You expected that this injury was one where they were giving him extra time To hit the buy week so that he's good I mean man Extra extra time now Yeah he's including the buy week

He's been gone for three weeks Chicago this week and there I mean this is a team that is one and five They can't mess around and obviously they still have Super Bowl aspirations. So it'll be interesting. We'll keep you up to date with the practice reports. They may need to do an aspirational adjustment.

You might need to start targeting. Playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's still a long shot with that record. If he misses one or two more games, it's almost, it's going to be impossible. That's why I feel like he is going to play this week still.

Jaden Daniels hamstring injury, not considered long term. Uncertain about week eight availability. you can sign and plug and play Mariota. Yeah. Because of his rushing prowess. Yep. Michael Pinnix Jr. day to day with a bone bruise in his foot. The crusade against feet continues in 2025.

Brock Purdy, toe. Also foot. We'll continue like he did last week when asked about his availability, Kyle Shanahan saying, It's weird because I saw a report that, you know, I thought Brock Purdy was going to play this week. and then yesterday, forget if it was Sheffty or Rappaport, but someone basically

was saying it looks like another week of Mac Jones. As in this week? Yeah, it's in this coming week. So I haven't seen this one, but I, yeah. Mac Jones has been playing good. He's playing very well. If he is good enough.

Superman plays good. Yes, thank you. If he's playing well enough to win and you can give Purdy time to heal, It makes sense. Yeah, they have a, their schedule at least to start the year was the best in the league, right? So you have some, maybe some room. As an easiest? Yes.

Sorry. Yeah. They're playing against Houston this coming week. That should be winable. Mac Jones can win that. Brock Bowers, Jacobi Myers should be ready to go after the bye week, which is this week. So Bowers should be back. Seven.

Oh, dude. Update time. Let's put the camera on Deusers Alley. Which one of you signed Brock Bowers? That would be. be me. And which one of you is all of us? All of us. Oh, that's true. He has so, all three of you

are gone. Duzelli is eliminated. That's true. You have so many good players hitting the waiver wire this week. Yeah, you guys are going to have a heyday with your fab. Yeah, it's I want Brock Bowers to go unsigned. I want everybody to be so afraid. I am not a superstitious person, but I see him there and I'm like, I need

him bad. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm going to get him. I might be able to get him for 20 fab. I don't even know. I'm afraid of putting the bid in. Pay up, man. I got some advice for you. Oh, man. Don't give into that temptation. There's a price. Oh, yeah. The price is your sold. Now, this week

is his buy week. We said he'll be ready to go after the buy, but that means not this week. So maybe that breaks the curse. Doubtful. To a Tonga Vailoa will remain the starting quarterback in Miami. That tells you how good things are going there. Darren week to week, not expected to need surgery on the pectoral strain.

That's great news. It was one of two options. It was either a strain or tear where it's like you either have season ending surgery or you're back in a couple weeks. They've got, they play Thursday night football two weeks from now. So it seems like the report is expect him to miss at least the next two. Yep, is what I saw. Dave Canellis will continue to use a two-back approach for the Carolina Panthers. It was 46% Rico, 54% Chuba. Did you make that sound? No, the sound was Jason. Yeah, it's dumb. Wait, why is it dumb? Well, it's dumb for fantasy. It's not dumb for the Carolina Panthers.

No, Chubba's a great player. I think it is the best thing. Rico's better. Even if he is better, Chuba is good. And you want as many good players on the field, keeping each other healthy, keeping each other fresh. The whole thing of like, well, Rico's the type of back that wears down defenses over time.

It's not like the defenses aren't playing when Chuba's on the field. I know Chuba had one bad week. But like the preceding two weeks before his injury, he was at 4.3, 4.9. We've seen it for years with Chuba. I don't want to disrespect Chuba just because we liked Yeah. Chuba's been a stud. He was 4.8 to carry all last year on a crappy team. He's not right now. The question is going to become... For one week of bad play on the season. He's

3.7 on the year. Yeah. Last week sucked. The question is going to... It's going to become... How can you start these guys with confidence? I know Rico this last week, he still looked good. I think he was the running back 21. So it's like... It's okay. But it's very difficult to imagine starting someone for a team that, you know, they won last week. I don't know how often you're going to be up running the ball, you know, 19 opportunities for Rico, 17 opportunities for Chuba. That's great because they had a, I mean, that's darn near 40 opportunities combined. Yeah, those are starter snaps for both. Yeah, that's not going to happen most weeks. You're going to be down and not be able to run. You talk about the four

and three Carolina Panthers? I am talking about the four and three Carolina Panthers. I think they're a better team than we think. Andy Dalton led four and three Panthers. Yeah, it's the Andy Dalton led four and three Panthers. And I would agree. What's the schedule like coming out of? Buffalo next week. Yeah, Buffalo Green Bay. I mean, that's their path to winning. It has been

for years. Running in football. Why Chuba's been so good is they just commit to running even in losses. They've been a horrible, horrible team and commit to running the football. Yeah, but again, like they just played the jets, right? The winless Jets. And it wasn't like they dominated the Jets. They put up 13 points and won because the Jets offense is non-existent. The next two weeks, Buffalo and Green Bay, you're not going to be in

Leeds. They're going to be big underdogs. And so I don't know how you start either of those running backs. I think in the by situation, you can start both of them. Oh, sure. By apocalypse this week. Six teams gone. Kendrae Miller suffered a torn ACL in week seven. His career is officially over. So freaking sad for the human being. Just awful. Tyler Lockett was released when he asked to be released. It was nice of the Titans.

He wants to go chase a title. He knows it's not going to be there. You know where he should go? Seattle. Go chase a title there. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com, progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers,

not available in all states or situations. coverage subject to policy terms limits and conditions will take a break we'll hit the waiver wire the Rams are 5 and 2 the 49ers are 5 and 2 the Seahawks are 5 and 2 how are the Cardinals there's one more team in the division are we 5 and 2 kind of are we 2 and 5 we're 2 and 5 oh that's backwards it is shoot but they're going into the buy. They can't lose this week. So waiver wire time. The Waver Wire

presented by Walmart. All right. We get the Bills and Ravens back from the buy, but the Cardinals, Jags, Lions, Raiders, Rams, and Seahawks all taking a break this week. Did you know that the NFL experimented with two buys in 93-94?

I do not recall. I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah, they did. Wow. Because I feel like, I don't know if it's next year or the following season. They're going to move to, they're going to add another game, have it be an 18 game season that will 100% happen. And at that point, I feel like a two-by system makes a lot of sense. That'll change some things for fantasy.

Oh, yeah. No more paying attention to win the buy week is. It's like, you know, you got two of them trying to coordinate your team, depth. Mm-hmm. I wonder, yeah, that'll be interesting. All right. Let's start with the running back position in terms of fantasy football pickups. There aren't there aren't a lot. I mean, Kyle Monongai takes the cake this week because he was 13 for 81 and 1. It was interesting to see the utilization of Monongai and Swift, who was a top five fantasy running back this week. It's interesting. They play Baltimore. Yeah, it's interesting. They play Cincinnati. Because the Kyle Monongai do do do do do have.

The rationale for having him on your roster has been Swift has not been good. Right. And now it's, well, Swift is, the last two weeks been great. And Mononga is just, he might be good. And they're going to use both of these guys. So it is, the matchup against Baltimore, I mean, if there's no Lamar, I know it's on the road, but there's a chance that the Chicago Bears get to beat down

the Baltimore Ravens, as teams have been doing, so Monongai might get even more work. Yeah, Menongai is in the, you know, this is obviously Ben Johnson's trying to build what he had in Detroit. Right. So Monongai is kind of the David Montgomery

to the Gibbs of Swift. And it makes... Monongueh. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Switch. Personally, I think personally, I think I might be more Breschard Smith over Menongai.

Okay. Just because of the offenses, right? Like, what do you believe? Yes, so what do you believe about the bears who won four in a row? They're looking better. They come out of the by-hot. I like that. There's a potential that they're a good offense.

But Kansas City Chiefs have been on fire. They've got Rushie Rice back. They've got their best weapons they've had since Tyreek was on top of his game. And all of a sudden, the chiefs look unstoppable. so you expect them to score a ton of points, have goal-in opportunities, and all of a sudden, did you see Kareem Hans carries? Yes. Seven, six, four, the last three weeks.

He went down to, I believe. He got banged up, but he was down to like 19% of snaps. Is that right? Do you have that in front of you? Well, yeah, it's 19% the previous two weeks, 30 and 33. It's been going down. But here's a thing. You go, oh, well, he got, he got banged up, and maybe that's why.

Because if you look at Breschard Smith's, you know, snaps and opportunities, this is a rookie this year, a seventh round rookie pick, which, Pacheco was as well. As was Menangai. Yeah. He went up. It's the year of the seventh rounder. He's been down at like 9% SnapShare Bershard Smith has been. All of a sudden

he went up to 35%. He had 14 rushing attempts this game. He had five targets. They are getting him involved. Four of the five were in the first half too. Right. So this is, I mean, I think that this is a rookie who looks better. Got juice.

Kareem Hunt. Thank you. you so much for your service. You have been a great teammate. You have done a lot for Kansas City. We are done with your services. That's what it feels like. It feels like now we can transition to the rookie. He's getting more involved. And not only is this Kareem Hunt, right? Like if it was just Kareem Hunt where it's like, okay, well, he goes down to 19%. Maybe he takes over that role. He's doing that, you know, Jerich McKinnon role from the past. But Isaiah Pacheco, he's been up at like, he was playing 77% last week. He was down to 56%.

the best player I test-wise to me on that team is Breschard Smith so Menungi and Breschard Smith those are the two pickups for me at running back this week Yeah and then other

players to pay attention to I know you're not going to like it but Bam Knight had 17 opportunities for Arizona they're going into the buy so you could sneak them onto your roster probably very cheap and he's and Trey Benson still has he's got time multiple weeks that he will be gone

Yeah I mean the the opportunities He's 13 and 18 in the last two weeks. You could do worse at running back than that. And then if Brees Hall gets traded, make sure Isaiah Davis is on your roster. So the trade deadline for the NFL is Tuesday, November 4th. Okay. This would be the time to stash.

We are over two weeks from that then. And if you need a spot start, it's gross. You're not going to feel good about it. I'm talking like bypocalypse. You've got to throw someone into the lineup off of waivers. Tyler Algier, in certain games, gets enough work, gets a goal line opportunity here or there, and they play Miami.

So it's just like a one week, you know, opportunity. I wouldn't ever call him an insurance back because, as I've stated many times, 20, 25Bs on Robinson is indestructible. He cannot be injured. Speaking of injury with the injury to Kendrae Miller, Devin Neal, he's the rookie. I know both Mike and I really liked the film pre-Napel draft. player. And so he's the next man up there behind Alvin Camara, should Camara miss time. Drop candidates this week, Bayshall Tootin?

Only five opportunities each the last four games. I think this is the type of week where he's going to be, yeah, you're probably going to have to drop him if you need spots with buys. The unfortunate Tales, Trayvion Henderson coming off his three worst games of the year. man i mean i i travion henderson is 100% dropable this isn't you have to drop him this isn't if he's on waivers you shouldn't pick him up maybe maybe a stash he's a talented player but yeah i mean he's 100% dropable he's irrelevant right now he's not involved in the he is he's a high enough draft capital pick with enough talent and ability to where if remandre was to get hurt Trayvion's opportunity would be forced, I think.

Vrable would never. So those kind of guys you kind of hang on to. If he was on waivers right now, I'd pick him up. I would pick him up. Yeah, I would too. Bill Crosky, no, you don't cut Bill. That doesn't feel like the right. No, Bill.

We need like a sad version of that. We need to look up like a sad. Bill, Bill, Bill. Yeah, we'll find something there, get on that, producers. But, yeah, I mean, you can't drop a guy, even though he's been very ineffective. We need that version. Give me the, oh, Billy. Yes.

Oh, Billy. 14 rushing a tips, 17 rushing a tips. We've had quite a few sad drops for players where we have happy drops. Don't you remember? Yeah, you put that thing away, though. There's no sadness with Pippman. No, Michael Pippman's doing work. Good.

wide receiver waiver wire pickups we mentioned them last week Alec Pierce just 14% rostered went 5 for 98 and he didn't even score and he definitely is going to score in this offense with Daniel Jones I love Alec Pierce I think you can play him again Kashon booty looking good rocking everywhere two targets he is a bit of a he's not quite Jamo on the seven shooter

but he is a little scary because Because, you know, week to week, somebody else can get the job done. It was two targets. Yeah, it's tough. And Diggs, while I've been talking about, like, I really feel like I want to be hands-off on starting Patriots, like, you can start a number of them. Sure. Whether it's Hunter Henry or Booty or Diggs, and you're going to get some good games, because my goodness, Drake May. I know it's been an easy stretch of matchups here, Tennessee and New Orleans, but he has,

looked outstanding. Like his film, the way he's moving in the pocket, the way he's delivering with anticipation, he looks brilliant, like true breakout. It's kind of funny. I've recently gotten into sports cards, and so I track the most trending sports cards on a weekly basis, which pretty much reflects human sentiment on how a player is performing two weeks ago, Cam Scadaboo, far and away the number one. This past week, it's Drake May. The Drake May excitement has been building. This is a five and two team. Great coach. He does have weapons, even if you can't perfectly identify him. I think that you can go two ways. I think you can say play Diggs and Booty every week. I think that's okay. And I think you can say don't play

any of them. I just, funny enough, I just made my first ever actual card investment. I got a PSA 10 of Drake Me. Oh, did you? Yeah. So, Mike, yeah, Mike has been climbing in with me. Two weeks ago, Mike's like, I can't get in. Yeah. I know this is bad for me.

Yeah. Two weeks later, I'm in. I didn't know. PSA 10, man. I didn't know that. Well, I think that's a good, I think that's a good one. Because Drake May looks like he's fully legitimate. Yes.

It's 23 years old. Yeah. Second year. I mean, Patriots fans totally deserve it after all that. those bad years. It's not fair. That feels a lot like the Spurs going from, you know, David Robinson to

Tim Duncan or Packers. Yeah. If he's, if he's going to be here to stay. Josh Downs was inactive last week. Could be back after the concussion against Tennessee was getting his snaps ramped up. He's more of a spot start and prey situation.

Darius Slayton, you know. Just need him healthy. I, yeah, I still have my hesitations with him because a lot of Jackson Darts' fantasy value, I mean, it's chicken or egg, right? It's come from running the football. Yeah, but he is. It's whether you believe Jerry Slaten is good enough to demand targets in that offense.

Which I do. I think that he is good enough. Little Jordan Humphrey had targets. Yeah, and where they are, the depth of the target. Like, Wondale is getting downfield shots. Little Humphrey. Little Humphrey. Little Humphrey.

I like that. I like that a lot. Lil Humphrey. he's getting downfield shots because like this is that's it's in the DNA of how Jackson Dart wants to play the game he wants to be aggressive and once

Darius Slaten is healthy which we don't know when that will be it's two games out so far with a hamstring injury he will once he's on the field he's their best downfield guy he's their best wide receiver I think but certainly when it comes to the broken plays to dart scrambling back in the pocket and pointing a direction

to a wide receiver and saying like go long almost chuck it that's going to be Slayton. When he's healthy, I certainly will pick him up. It's just, it's tough right now. I don't feel like Jackson Dart's voice sounds like that. No, that was, that was exactly what he sounds like. Oh, okay. I have a hard...

Hey, man! Get down there! Get down to feel! I'll throw him, chuck it! I'm all chug it! Where's he from? I have a hard time, you know, I'm not going to play Slayton in his first game back, and we don't know that it is this week. He's from Utah. I don't think he sounds like it. Oh, no.

Hey, mister, go down Go down the field. How may I politely ask you to move down the field? Darius. Darius, please go long. Mr. Slayton. I don't know. I've heard him. I've heard some funny sound bites of Jackson Dart.

I... Four, four and six. Man, I love... Yeah. I think the whole world loves those two. Yes, yes. You're talking about sports cards. Please stay healthy because...

He's not staying healthy. Not the way he plays. Those two guys really... Those guys have two years and left. in their career. I mean, they are, they are suicidal on the football field the way that they run into defenders. Yeah. No fear. No fear. Did you see Cam Scataboo three yards into the end zone lower his helmet for contact? Yes. He got the touchdown scores. The defender to Scataboo's credit, the defender still looked like he was going to tackle him. So he's like,

take this. Yeah, it was funny. Tess Johnson, I just mentioned it. I think you have a long-term opportunity for test. You got to move him up. It's eye test plus opportunity. What round was he drafted? It was day three. Yeah. Seventh round.

But he was a super undersized guy that has speed. Kind of a tank deli. Yeah, he looked good. Yeah, that's a great comp, actually. And another name that we need to, you know, right now on the website, he's not there. We're going to add him. But Christian Watson, to me, when I watch the Packers, they are in need of a wide receipt. They're in need of an alpha.

You know, they tried to get that with Matthew Golden. Hasn't happened. It hasn't happened. But Christian Watson's window was opened up two weeks ago. I think he's back this week. He's a priority ad for me. Any other names, Mike, that you want to bring up? I mean, the guys from Denver.

Yeah, because they're playing the Dallas Cowboys. Marvin Mims, Jr. and Troy Franklin are, I mean, Mims had a much better game. He was seven targets. Troy Franklin had 10. Now, I mean, inflated numbers, of course, because of the Denver comeback there in the fourth quarter. But the matchup says you can spot start him. Yeah, yeah, there's, you know, we were disappointed. We thought maybe Luther Burton would get more involved. He only had two targets last week. You can still pay attention to the rookie. Elico Iommanner's path is super clean for a bad team because Tyler Lockett is gone. You have the injury to Ridley. He is still spot startable with fear and trembling, but you did see DK scored last week, 4 for 70. Malik Washington is a name to pay attention to because I haven't seen the

reports of exactly what it was, but Jalen Waddled Didley with an injury. Darren Waller is going to be missing a couple weeks. Tyree Kill is gone. Malik Washington might be like their last man standing. I have drop candidates from the people. They want to know. Yeah, give us the landmine. Jacobi Myers. Oh, that's not him. Yeah, drop him. Jameson Williams. There he is.

He's a landmine. Oh, no, he's a landmine. I think he's a landmine. I think you put him out there and let people scoop him up and play him. Now, it's funny because if I'm going against him, you're terrified. I'm absolutely terrified. I'm not happy to see JMO against me. Now, after the week, I probably yeah yeah you're spending the seven shooter and giving it an attempt matthew golden

i mean what is i'm not going to drop so jared goff has 15 passing touchdown he is top it would where do we know where we are in terms of that is he like number three i thought he was leading the league at one point Kyle do we have that number at all i'm i'm trying to pull it up man. He's third. He's third right now. Stafford, 17, Dak, 16, Jared Gough, 15. Jared Gough has given us one good fantasy game. That's pretty Jared Gough of him. I mean, that's pretty, that's pretty much how it works. It's so disappointing. Were you saying one good game for Jameson? No, for golf. Oh yeah, which is less than. Gough is even Williams. He was the number one quarterback in week two. Other than that, he has not been in the top. I mean,

Did you lose because of golf last night, Al? I did in my family league. And how many did you need? How much point? I needed 12. And in this scoring format, he got me 10.3. Yeah, and you thought it was a shoe. So that Gibbs going down really got you.

Yep. Yeah. He's so, Gibbs is so slow. I could have run faster than that. There you go. So Matthew Golden, you wouldn't let go of Jameson. I wouldn't let go of him. But I understand if you want to not do it.

But when I look at my bench and I'm like, hey, do I pay? pivot in Josh Downs or Jamo on a weekly spot start on a by week? How do you not go with the explosives? No, I agree. I mean. But I don't want to be the defender of the bad pit. On a buy week like this week where you're going to have to put someone in as a starter, if you really need someone to start most of these names.

Alec Pierce this week or Jamo? I'm going to play Alec Pierce because the Lymos are not playing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just think of the rest of season. Like think of a team. They're probably on by this week. That's right.

If you do, our start sits are going to get real wonky if we think of them in our head and don't look. Yep. All right. We'll take a break. We'll talk tight ends and defenses and quarterbacks. The tight-in position. Is this your number one pickup of the week? Yes.

Arronday Gadsen, the second. Nine targets, seven for 164 and one. Game was a little drunk. 55 pass attempts by Mr. Herbert himself. Yeah, the Colts. Nine targets were inflated. This was not the first sign.

Like, we brought him up on this show last week because he had eight targets the week before and seven for 68. Like, this is becoming, I need you in this offense, not I just get to have you occasion. Last week was 21% of the targets. It felt at the time like, is this just huge? Because Quinn Johnston did not play two weeks ago. True.

And this week, I mean, down to 17%, but 17% of Herbert's targets are better than... And they're just going to keep throwing with Vidal and Haskins right now. Yeah, and so I have a little bit of caution here and a little bit of

excitement. I talked about how excited I am for him in Dynasty. This is a rookie. If you don't know his profile, he basically comes in his first year in college, gets injured, only plays two games. The next year, he's 900 yards receiving.

as a tight end. So now he's going in his junior season, gets injured, only plays two games again. His final year in college, 900 yards again, and that for a tight end is outstanding. So this was a very productive collegiate tight end whose father was an NFL player, great athlete, and when you watch on film, he passes the eye test. For a rookie to already be given this kind of opportunity in the offense at that position, I feel like it's bright days ahead. Am I willing to go out there and grab him? Yes. However, the chargers have, I believe it was the third or fourth most difficult strength of schedule for the time in position from here on out. It's not great for that. And while that's pretty much irrelevant sometimes and relevant sometimes for tight end,

tight end is a is a schematic thing where some defenses really are exploitable at that position whether it's because of how they play or their personnel and so I don't think he's going to be a just runaway breakout star the rest of his rookie season he's got the ability though he has size speed strengths you know that that are that look like what you dream of for fantasy I think that's an awesome breakdown and I think the two things things that stand out to me about him just worth talking about, you can't just luck into 164. You just can't do that. There's no tight end out there. Like, you're talking about an athletic profile and ability. You saw the run after the catch. And the other part of it is

schematically, I like the fact that Herbert buys time in the pocket, and this is a player fast enough, mismatch worthy, where he has found a way to be his favorite target late in a play where Herbert's running around and he can find this guy down the field because the linebacker covering him is not fast enough to cover him. Some other interesting stats about him. Six first read targets in each of the last two weeks

so he was the plan on those plays and then 51% of his routes are in the slot. They're running a ton of three and four wide and they're putting him out there. So yeah, I think he's very, very interesting just because you know you look at the options out there. Colston Loveland

should get brought up as well. You want athletic young tight ends with ability and good quarterback play versus looking at like right now Mason Taylor I'd love to say go get him I cut him this morning they who the who's the quarterback of this inept team did you see the video of that kid getting interviewed leaving the jet stadium yeah I did not it was the most I mean it's kind of like our cardinal ran yeah it was me leaving the cardinal stadium this poor kid he's probably about 14 years old 15 years old he's walking he's got this solemn look on his face he's tremendously sad I actually I don't want to spoil it. Can you get that clip?

Yeah. Al, grab that clip because I don't... Yeah, we can just play it. I just want to play the clip because it's got all the emotion of football and fantasy football and everything all built into about five seconds worth of talking. You know what I'm talking about, right, Al? Oh, yeah. The only, the only thing that won't come through on audio is his face. Is his wet eyes? Yeah, he's not crying, but it's just like a little, is like a little well up? Yeah, it's just like true, true sadness. But that was to close that point, And it was just to say that, you know, to Rod Taylor and Justin Fields,

how good can it get for Mason Taylor? It can't get that good. It can get very good for Colson Loveland. Yeah, Colston Loveland, I wanted to talk about him. They tick on Baltimore. We like that matchup. Loveland was the, had the third highest target share of the week this past week, and now Colcomette is dealing with an injury.

So a top 10 pick, second half of the season, I think there is a decent chance that Colston Loveland becomes. a weekly starter. I mean, that's at least what the Chicago Bears envisioned for him, and the Cole Comette injury really clears the way. The line right now is 50 and a half in that game, which absolutely says that Lamar, at least the, you know, the lines assume Lamar's or they think that the Bears are going to score 30-something points. Kate Otton, we just talked about it, nine targets. Could be a more valuable player. I got to move them up now after the injury. The injury, yeah.

yeah um so there there are some options this week and titans are okay joan johnson showed back up last yeah so maybe he's finally healthy yeah but but otton i mean who would you start i feel like i would start oughton over lovelin and gadsden if i needed a start this week now i'm gonna chase gadsen i think for one more week just with the fact has been two weeks in a row but i i don't blame you on that i mean godwin's probably out again for the one week I don't blame you for going Otten long like if my if I'm okay at the tight end position and I'm just

looking to add some depth or some possibility I'd put Loveland on there on my bench over Otten what if you are not okay at tight end okay and you're missing someone for a couple weeks how much fab for for Gadsden if you have a desperate tight end need oh man not that you have that choice because I already signed him last week Jason but how much if if I hadn't I forgot.

If I hadn't signed him. Well, after I changed you, Waller, I needed to pick somebody up. I'm done. Do you have that clip yet, Al? Just about. Just working on it. Yeah, it's, I mean, I want to know the fab spend because I feel like you're shooting your shot on these guys. Yeah.

I mean, this, in terms of this week, I guess it's pretty aggressive. I mean, I think 20%, you know, if you're $100 league, 20 bucks, that would be probably as high as I would go. Yeah, all right. But I'd be willing to go that. That would be my bid would be 20. Okay. Which means, of course, it would be 21. Oh, we've got, we've got the clip, but we don't have the audio. Are you, are you working it out? Yeah, it could be just, do you want me to read it? It's up. Does he know it's up on the screen right now? I do. Okay. This is, this is really good stuff. Oh, it's gone. I love it. You let us know. I'm trying to hang on here in the tight-in section for you, Al. I appreciate it. See, do I get your thoughts on the game.

I hate this team I was born into this and I'm not gonna ever I'm always a Jets fan but like I just I hate this team well said man my guy yeah that's exactly wise beyond his years yeah I want that

I hate this team just that little clip on my board every time I the Cardinals do something oh man I was born into this the best the best phrase like this is not my fault young man Go find another team. And respect. He said he's not leaving, but he hates this team.

Yeah. All right. You should probably leave. What are some defense? Leave now what you can. We are so indoctrinated by big team. I mean, it's just, it's fundamental, man. It's fundamental.

I mean, I don't know. I think Papa Josh roots for different teams in the Olympics. That's true. That's true. I believe that was the World Cup. Oh, it was the World Cup, right? Yes. And it was a.

It was just a happiness hedge. No, it was a monster. We had the USA. Happiness to see America lose. Oh, now you're in on big team. That's big, big team. Yeah, that's a bad. Oh, man.

All right. Defense is this week. Play your Colts defense. Oh, good. They take on Tennessee. Cam Ward's not good. No. That's the whole, that was the, that was the end of the city.

Although he was, he was. He looked much better this week. week. Without, with a different coach. The play to DK was nice, but yeah, that team has so many issues. The Falcons take on the Miami offense. And the Falcons are at home. When Atlanta is at home, not only does Pinnix play much better, but their defense looks

outstanding, although I will say this about the Falcons. The Falcons are drunk. They have no idea. I don't know if they're good or not. They don't know if they're going to show up. This is a team that lost 30 to nothing against the Panthers. They got shot out against Panthers. They beat and hand-handedly beat the Buffalo Bills.

They just, I mean, who is this team? They beat Washington. I don't know. But to be fair, I'd play him at home against Miami. Carolina was on the road. Washington and Buffalo were at home. They're a different team. The Falcons are pretty widely available.

The other widely available would be the Bucks. they're on the road against the Saints and I think it's okay. Are you no longer targeting teams playing the Bengals? Oh, that's a good question. That used to be the go-to. I know somebody who did that and it didn't work.

I think I would, for the time being, I would be afraid of what Joe Flacco can do. I think Joe Flacco is a good answer to our next segment. I think you are correct. That was this week's waiver wire presented by Walmart. Who knew you can get what

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Mine is Tyro Taylor. He's okay against Cincinnati. That's it. It's like a You really put him in there, huh? Well, I. makes sense. It doesn't make sense. The Cincinnati Bengals are a team that you have been targeting the 31st in yards per play a lot. So I will pick someone else. And so this is the most difficult. There's no pass catchers in New York. Well, there was a note that Garrett might play this week. Yeah. This is as difficult a week as I can remember for streaming

quarterbacks. Yes. The guys that are widely available on waivers, if you need to pick someone up off of waivers. The guys that are widely available, either have terrible matchups or, you know, are on by or whatever. There's only one player, to be honest, that I am excited to play. And it's in that same game as your guy, Andy. So you, you, it's Joe Flacco. Yeah, 100%. Joe Flacco, the last two weeks, 45 and 47 pass attempts, 25 and 35 fantasy points, they're, you know, home favorites against the JV team. This team. I hate this team. The Jets.

And, you know, the nice thing is you worry sometimes when you are able to really shut down another team that you're not going to pass the ball a lot. And I know that Chase Brown looked much better this last week. But on the whole of the season, the offensive line, and the running game hasn't worked for the Bengals, so there's a good chance that that gets stuffed by the Jets and they just continue to throw the ball. Joe Flacco, I think, is a very good play. I think Chase Brown is going to be perfectly fine. As long as the offense can go, then Chase Brown will be good. My hope is that he's good through the air, that it's the dump-offs in the screen game and that type of stuff.

Yeah, I mean, like, DART should be mentioned, but he beat up on Philadelphia two weeks ago. He's on the road against Philadelphia, and Jalen Carter will be playing in that game. So that is sketchy. Joe Flacco is the guy, if you are really hurting. I have Michael Pennix in here because he's at home and he's against my. Miami. Boy, he's looked different at home. He does. And you got to pay attention because he's dealing with the, whatever, the heel or he has a foot injury. So you certainly have to pay attention to that throughout the week. But if I'm just, if I have nobody, I, Joe Flacco is the answer right now. And I hate the matchup, but Mariotta is a name if Daniels. Yes. Can you do that? Sure. Well, I didn't do that one because we don't know if Jaden Daniels is going to play or not. But it's a Monday night, right? Yeah. So I think even if Mario as a backup, it might be a better start to Rod Taylor. Genuinely, Mario, with Jaden Daniels, active, could end up scoring more points in that game.

Because Jaden Daniels can, you know, re-agravate that. And then, and we already saw Marioita not start a game and be a top 10 quarterback on a week. It is true. It is a tougher week. We've seen Taylor start one game this year. Top 10. Sam Darnold will be going into the buy. Just pay attention to that in case he gets dropped.

You need a quarterback and the way he's been playing as well. I would also say that, like, there is one more name for this week. Oh, yes. And it's Aaron Rogers. It's Aaron Rogers because he gets to play the revenge game. I actually think it matters. If I'm, look, if I'm Pittsburgh and I'm at the eight-yard line or the five-yard line, I want Rogers to put up numbers in this game against Green Bay.

And he had four touchdowns last week, so it's in Green Bay. Green Bay. So this is the Jeremy, you are our Packers fan. Yeah. Will the crowd cheer or boo him? I think they cheer. That's a good question. I think they'll boo them. Yeah. I think they're going to boo them into the ground.

That might be true. I don't know. I don't know what the sentiment is on any given week. But that'll do it for today's episode of the show. We have second half sleepers tomorrow. A Thursday night preview, backup options, and a whole lot more. Do not miss it. And head to join thefoot.com. Get access to the ultimate dash. board and unlock those custom waiver wire lists for every league. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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