Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 9 Studs & Duds + Allen FIRED, Barn Burners - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/4

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Week 9 fantasy football recap on today’s podcast! Which disappointing players are worrisome for the rest of season? Which surprising studs standout the most? Plus, big news, injury updates and Monda...y Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 4th, 2024. (00:00) - Intro (06:00) - Monday Punday (09:45) - Ready to Roll (19:50) - NFL News  (28:00) - Fantasy Football Studs (29:45) - QB Studs (32:10) - RB Studs (38:35) - WR Studs (44:40) - TE Studs (48:15) - Fantasy Football Duds (48:20) - QB Duds (52:00) - RB Duds (57:30) - WR Duds (01:03:40) - TE Duds Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on X Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: Ready to Roll presented by Nissan. Visit https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/crossovers-suvs/pathfinder/rock-creek-edition.html News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Welcome in Jason. It's Christmas time yeah see a little Halloween hello Christmas I saved it for you thank you you're welcome my trees up no it's not oh yeah it is no it's not oh yes it is. No it's not. Oh yes it is. Andy, it's Halloween over. Halloween's over. Then Christmas trees be up.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Are you on that boat? I broke out all my Christmas vinyls. Nice. Which to be fair is one. Took them all out. Your Christmas vinyl, which one? Michael Buble. It's a nice red colored vinyl.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Put that on in the house, listening to Christmas tunes. Of course it's Christmas time. I told you I tried your little, Yeah. I tried your Methodist. That's fine, Grinch, you stay over there. No, no, look, I tried it, Grinch wouldn't have tried it.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Oh, he did, actually, he tried it, he loved it. I don't know if you've seen the film. That's true. His heart grew two sizes. He didn't, I don't think the film was based on the second that the Halloween decorations come down, it is Christmas time. Well, we don't think the film was based on the second that the Halloween decorations come down, it is Christmas time. Well, we don't know when it started.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah. You ever seen the sequel to The Grinch? The best part is- It's Christmas all the time. I tried it, I didn't care for it. It made it feel artificial. It wasn't a natural. There wasn't a sprinkle in the air.
Starting point is 00:01:40 You know what I mean? I know what you're saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I don't feel that way. Look, and most, I know you don't, It's okay. I actually thought Christmas time was just related to the news that Dennis Allen had been cain. See you later, sucker! I mean just take the thermometer down. He's not there. And don't don't rip our wall. What a waste of money.
Starting point is 00:02:00 We Spike! You gone! See you later! So good. After they went 2-0, and I'm starting to look at the next week going, man, if they win, they just got to go 500. I'm going to have to shave my head. And that's where they stopped winning. Yeah, well, he's gone. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And you know what it is? It's losing to Bryce Young. Dude, we mentioned it on the show. Like, the trajectory of the Saints, if they lose this game to Carolina that's he's gonna get real hot I didn't know it was immediately to a volcano. It would be my final straw I mean it is a scapegoat thing to a degree I mean the injuries have been outrageous for New Orleans including in this game I mean Chris Olavi is one of
Starting point is 00:03:02 the biggest storylines that we're going to talk about today. He's in trouble. He's in like career trouble at this point. Oh, for sure. I mean, a lot has been made about Tua. His concussion history has been a little bit more in the public eye. It seems like it's always a prime time game and because he's a quarterback and it affects the whole team so much more significantly but there are some significant parallels in the severity and amount of concussions now even dating back to college that Chris Olave has had to deal with. We expect IR for Olave. I don't think he will play football this season.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Oh, I hope that is. I don't even know what I hope for. This is one of those things where it's like, I want to be healthy playing football. He was in the locker room after the game. That was the good news. Yes. Discharged from the hospital, in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:03:58 wanted to be around for the firing, I guess. And. I heard there's gonna be a party here. But. I mean, the Saints be a party here? But... I mean, the Saints, look, here's what we know. They're gonna have a high pick. They need a quarterback. My DraftKings team was erased
Starting point is 00:04:17 the moment that that play happened. Yeah. Dude, that was such a bummer. But at the same time, you can look at the situation for Dennis Allen and say, well, you've lost now your top three pass catchers. It just kind of is just spiral. Ever since we hung the thermometer on the wall,
Starting point is 00:04:36 ever since your remaining hair has been threatened. Have you thought about a celebration shave? I have thought about it. I mean, I did shave the sides, so I'm a... You're almost there. It was like an honorary for you, Dennis Allen. He wanted to show up, but not that much. Yeah, I don't have that much to show.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So we have a lot to get to. We've got more news. We'll give you the latest on Olavi and some of the other big breaking news of the weekend, including injury reports. We all know tomorrow's a big day. Trade deadline. Oh, yeah. Trade deadline.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Fantasy football. Huge day for our country because the NFL trade deadline is here. Buyers and sellers. We'll see what happens. Cardinals get yourself a pass rush. Divisional leaders, the Cardinals, let's go over to- Oh yeah, let's check in on the Falcons' health. How you doing down there?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Came to work. Congrats guys. Thank you. Thank you. I'm beating the bears handily. I can hand it to you. Yeah. Your voice getting deeper there?
Starting point is 00:05:36 It's a little raspy today. Yeah. Okay. What was going on last night? Barry White over here. About six packs? Yeah. Goodness gracious.
Starting point is 00:05:44 He smokes in the bathroom. Alright. We've got your reactions to the weekend, and normally I, uh, I have Jason take a look at these before we hit the button, but I don't think he got to them today. I have not. So you guys are riding dirty. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Well, we'll start with Jason's main man, Divine A-Chan. Yes, he is. How about Cedric TD-Man? Oh, baby. Well, we'll start with Jason's main man, Divine A-Chan. Yes, he is. How about Cedric TD-Man? Oh, baby. Hello. Whoa, Burrow. And we've got a trifecta here. Yeah, Burrow, five touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Jackson Smith win Jigba. Jackpot, Smith and Jigba. Yay, SN. Why am I just all the sounds? You're yay, SN. You're yay, SN. We got Cooper Yup. Oh, I love this one say Kwan back leap Oh, he farted on that guy say Kwan beastly Rico waddle Mike
Starting point is 00:06:35 Zicky and Mike you get this one the Mars powers brings a flower Yes, and the weekend I'll tell you it wasn't like last week flowers yes and the weekend I'll tell you it wasn't like last week it was a lot more negative than it was positive and we always begin each week with starving Harrison jr. yeah Marvin embarrassing jr. or Kyle Pitts of despair or Pitts Creek how about punchin' Nakua that's a good one. Yeah. Pukunakao. Yeah, and Bree Stalls. Raheem Moisturd? Ha ha! Yes! Ha ha!
Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh. Raheem Moisturd. Oh, that's gross. That's disgusting. Mike, go ahead. Yonathan Taylor. And Samist Winston. Oh, how about Tucker Crapp?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Ha ha ha. Oh, they're on fire today. Winston oh how about Tucker crap oh? They're on fire today Jack-toast intolerant Yes, and we'll close it out with a J. Frown dude. I'm never pre reading these ever again See it's better if you don't it is but I they're not always this good. I least turd Dactose intolerant. Yeah, I mean good job foot clamp. Yeah nice job We had a weekend you can submit your monday pun day Suggestions entries on Instagram at fantasy footballers over on X at the FF ballers Quick shout out before we get into ready to roll
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Starting point is 00:09:12 If you're in one league, okay, but if you're in three, or like us, insane, like nine main leagues, goodness gracious, I need a tool. So, continued updates coming your way, shout out to our dev team here who's been working their butts off. I mean, they don't have butts. Yeah, they're gone our dev team here who's been working their butts off. I mean, they don't have butts. Yeah, they're gone.
Starting point is 00:09:27 They have no butts. They've been worked off. They are worked straight off. Sitting is uncomfortable. But a shout out to them on the hard work. You ever sat directly on a tailbone? No, no I have, well. They have.
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Starting point is 00:09:55 ["Ready to Roll Theme Song"] I'm gonna be honest, I have been jealous of the badonkadonk when I get into a place where I need to sit on a metal bleacher. Uh-huh, uh-huh, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, I got to, I bring my pads with me. Yes sir, I do. Gotta get on that squat machine, man.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I bring my pads with me. It was the squats that did it for you? Oh sure, sure it was. It's squats for you, it's like burgers for me. It's standing, no, no, no. I mean you're really taking away a good thread of jokes from the show with your good health of recent history, which- I know. It's really stupid.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Well, you know, not for your long- Not for living. Not for your long-term health. But yeah. But for the show's long-term health, yeah. I hit the button already. I almost did it again. Yeah, you did. We're here. All right, Ready to Roll. We're always taking a look at some analytics on this segment every Monday. Something we're reflecting on we want to bring to light. We got the Red Zone report inside of the Foot Clan tools,
Starting point is 00:10:53 and so we wanted to dive in, take a look at what teams now at the halfway point are very effective in the Red Zone thus far. We've got the top six teams. I'm curious your opinion on maybe some actionable fantasy advice you can take out of this information. It's trying to find teams that are, maybe they're running too hot or too cold, or like Washington. They're running hot, but it could be better. Well, I mean, the truth is these are teams that are effective in terms of capitalizing on
Starting point is 00:11:27 touchdowns inside the red zone, inside the 20. And right now, I mean Baltimore is kind of outrageous. They're sitting at 74% of the time inside the red zone. They're scoring a touchdown. They have 29 red zone touchdowns. The league average, by the way, is 56%. So you're sitting nearly 20% higher than the league average. Buffalo has been very effective in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Maybe a common theme there, you have two quarterbacks that can move with their legs. Oh, wait, we also have Washington that's been very effective. But that's what I wanted to point out here for Washington. Like Washington, of the teams we're talking about, they're averaging the most red zone plays per game. Near, like over 19.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And yet. But their percentage is below average. Their red zone touchdown rate is low. There's only 21 compared to like the Ravens who have 29. But red zone field goals for Washington. So that's what I mean of. They could be a team. Their offense is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like the turn around of the Washington commanders is. Bravo. It will probably end up being the story of the season once we look back. But I mean, if you just just a couple of those field goals, if we turn those into more touchdowns, then this is ludicrous what they're doing. Yeah, you can look at it either direction. You can say they're either inefficient in the red zone, but they're getting there so often that that might go away. They might
Starting point is 00:12:59 not stay on the same fiery pace, and then they're not converting touchdowns enough. Or you can look at it as in they're getting there all the time and they could even get better. I think with a rookie there, I mean you look at right now what's happening is they're moving the ball phenomenally, but they're struggling in the red zone to convert to touchdowns because they've got a rookie who's not used to the condensed field where the defenders are in position. So I tend to agree with you, Mike, that it could still get actually better for the commanders. They have missed Brian Robinson in two and a half games, essentially,
Starting point is 00:13:33 which doesn't help your red zone conversion rate. Also, the field shrinks and he's been so effective moving it between the 20s. That is an area where a rookie is going to struggle a little bit. Are you saying a good running back helps red zone efficiency? Yes, let's talk about the Lions. While the Lions are there, I was actually talking about Mr. Derek Henry. That dude is insane. You know, since 2007, not many teams have been over 72% conversion to touchdown rates in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Let me name them for you. You've got the Tennessee Titans in 2019, which was Derrick Henry. You got the 2020 Packers. You got this year's Baltimore Ravens, Derrick Henry. Oh, you got the Titans in 2020 with Derrick Henry. You have the 2020 Steelers, the 2013 Broncos with Peyton Manning, of course. Then you got the Titans with rookie Derrick Henry. So it's like, that dude is built different. And I know we talk about the punishing nature of
Starting point is 00:14:38 Derrick Henry and the business decisions and whatnot, but when I was watching this last game... Yeah, you were pointing them out frequently. It was like, I felt for the defense. I felt for them on a human level when I was watching this last game. Yeah, you were pointing them out frequently. It was like, I just, I felt for the defense. I felt for them on a human level. I was like. For their families? For their, there was a screen pass to Henry
Starting point is 00:14:53 where he's literally a locomotive going down the field and he gets tripped up. Yes. But as the camera is moving, you see like the defender who was just about to have to deal with them. There was a DB that was stay like he was standing He was ready. He was pumping himself up, you know like We can do and then I'm sure when the guy ahead of him tackle him. He's like, yes
Starting point is 00:15:15 bodies you see that you see that skinny Skinny DB that truck sticked Henry like last week and just put him on his butt. I think he was it was at Cincinnati. I don't remember. I remember the play. It didn't make any sense when you looked at the two of them. Came from the side. Yeah it came from the side. And just like knocked him over. So those are your effective teams. You've also got Tampa Bay's been very effective. I mentioned the Lions and the the Bengals are worth mentioning because they're throwing the ball so much. Joe Burrow leads the NFL in pass attempts inside the 20 without Joe Mixon, who has kind of turned off the passing faucet in Houston. Joe Burrow, it's his responsibility.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Five touchdowns could have been six this weekend. And so you look at Joe Burrow and say, hey, maybe this is, that's a more predictive one to me. That's not a regression one. You don't have the personnel. Chase Brown is good between the 20s, but you don't have the personnel to Derek Henry the ball into the end zone in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So I think they're gonna continue to throw in the red zone. Here are the bottom six. You tell me whether you believe any of these teams improves and whether that's prescriptive for fantasy and picking up players on those rosters. Bottom six, the Giants. Nope. Pfft.
Starting point is 00:16:32 The Cowboys have 11 red zone touchdowns. That is 10 fewer than the Commanders and they're scoring on 45% of drives. They're in trouble. If you read Zack's or Dak Prescott's lips on the sideline, you can tell what everyone knows. He's not happy with the state of the Cowboys. He included himself.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, it was a we. It was a we. He basically said, we suck. He said, we suck. On the sidelines caught. A little more emphatic. Yeah, some words can't say here. The Cowboys, CD Lamb got banged up.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Gee whiz, we suck. That's what it was. CD Lamb, they kept putting him back in. I mean, him putting himself back in, I'm sure. But at what cost? And then Dak left the game with a hamstring and a hand injury that we don't yet have a status update. But they could be in big trouble.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah, the Cowboys, I don't think that's a positive regression. The Steelers, the Steelers are not very effective at getting there. But I don't think that's what I'm aiming for. The Packers, yes. The Packers, I think we have seen a multitude of things impact this number. Injury to their quarterback twice this year.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Rainy game yesterday. 47%, I don't think, is going to hold personally. And do you guys agree? No, I agree. Honestly, when it comes to four through six of the bottom, Green Bay, the San Francisco 49ers, and the Miami Dolphins, those are injury teams that you expect to get better. Tua being gone, Christian McCaffrey being gone, and Love being gone. I think all
Starting point is 00:18:15 three you would expect to have brighter days ahead from a touchdown scoring perspective. Do we get it? Is it really Christmas this week? Is Christmas McCaffrey coming back for us? I think Christmas McCaffrey is back. The question is just when you open the package, is it something you want or is it another injury? Any trees up over there in Deer's Alley? Not yet for me. No, okay. My family pushed really hard to put it up this weekend Oh, so you you put the and I said smack down on oh team Josh Falken? Andy? No tree till December. All right, Barry It's not that it's not fun. It's just that what makes it fun This is such a waste of my breath. What makes it fun is everybody else is doing it
Starting point is 00:19:04 That's what makes it a fun tradition is you've got Christmas everywhere, not just at Lowe's. You know what I mean? Right, I know what you mean. Like I know you, you buy into big marketing. So the second you walk into Lowe's, you see the trees up, you're like,
Starting point is 00:19:15 I gotta do what Lowe's says. You think I go into home improvement stores? That's not right. Man stores? All right, hey, that was ready to roll. Thanks again to our sponsor, Nissan and the all new reimagined Nissan Kicks. Take on the city with the Nissan Kicks bold new look plus safety features like the Nissan Safety Shield 360 technology that will have you back in traffic. Head over to NissanUSA.com to learn more.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Nissan Safety Shield technologies can't prevent all collisions or warn in all situations. See owner's manual for important safety information. News and notes from around the league presented by USAA Insurance. That Saints have fired abysmal maligned head coach, Dennis Allen. Congratulations to all of my friends who are Saints fans. Your future should be brighter. You're gonna have a top quarterback next year and you are a good franchise.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Like if I was a head coach on the open market and I'm looking at franchises I'm gonna gonna I'm gonna go to that is a very functionally well-run Organization for for a long period of time. So I think there's bright days ahead just not this season. Yeah I mean the cap situations a problem a cap's a problem and the Mean the functionality of the of the team making the decision to keep this head coach is Protect perhaps in question. I think that the I mean this was my argument on the bold prediction show of the fact that Dennis Allen was gifted this position by Sean Payton. It was kind of I
Starting point is 00:21:00 Don't think this was the organization really Saying that this is the best route. It was just kind of like the guy who led us fooled us, if you will. Yeah, it's very odd that like it felt like a pretty unanimous thing that like outsiders, you know, football fans are like, this guy shouldn't be the coach. You know, it's having be a defensive coordinator somewhere. That's fine. But he should not be the head coach. All of us seem to know this. And even it's just so strange to me that these, these,
Starting point is 00:21:38 these coaches get in these positions and we all know it's a, it's a bad idea and it's going to fail and it's going to set you back. So I think the Saints are a couple years away. Keon Coleman will have Tess Dunn on his wrist today, we need to stay tuned for that. Dropped a touchdown that turned into an interception in that game, they ended up winning it anyway. The Raiders fired Luke Gutsy, their offensive coordinator,
Starting point is 00:22:00 they fired their quarterback's coach, and their offensive line coach, as the team takes the next step towards firing their head coach. That is true. I think Pierce's, it's not long. And they don't have the personnel either. Drake London, left early with a hit pointer
Starting point is 00:22:16 in an oblique straight. The early stuff that I saw on this was optimistic so hopefully it's not a big deal but I don't think we have a ton of details yet. We talked about Olave he's in the concussion protocol fifth documented concussion since college fourth in the NFL and second because he had one in week six which was not long ago. Darius Slayton in concussion protocol AJ Brown left early with a knee injury but as of this morning Jordan
Starting point is 00:22:42 Schultz reporting it's avoided he's avoided a serious one. That would be excellent news, because that looked like a multi-week. Dak Prescott left early with a hand and ham injury. Hand strain. Also they weren't competitive. And C.D. Lamb sprained his AC joint. He'll have an MRI on Monday.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I put almost nothing into Jerry Jones saying he'll be fine. Yeah, he said he'll be fine because he went back out there for a bit. That doesn't mean anything. Long term, yeah, he will be fine. I do think he'll play through it if it's not showing up on the MRI as anything catastrophic, but that could be something that knocks you out.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Basically that AC joint, if you land on it in the game, you could be in trouble. And we've seen this with Tyree Kale before. The whole game. I mean, Mike, you pointed this out super early in the game, was like, oh, CD's hurting. And then he's playing, and he's hurt. And you kept screaming to the TV, like, why are you
Starting point is 00:23:42 leaving him in there? Don't do this to CD. He's going to die. And then they ended up constantly throwing him the TV, like, why are you leaving him in there? Like, don't do this to Sidi. He's going to die. And then they ended up constantly throwing him the ball, because he's Sidi Lamb. And then he got injured. And then he got a real big one trying to catch a touchdown. Yeah, and landed right on it.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Couldn't come back. No, he did come back for a two-point conversion. Oh, fair. He did. That was the crazy thing. Eric Hall Jr., rookie tight end for the Bengals, unfortunately. Yeah. Tore his ACL.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I missed that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not that I want to diminish the injury in any way, shape, and form, but obviously his performance, his involvement, he had a bunch of weeks with four catches. His absence is going to mean that the Gussicky week that happened could be stickier. Because sticky Gussicky? Sticky gussicky?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Sticky gussicky. Whoa, I mean honestly you look at those hands reaching out. Mike looked at me. Because it was right there man. He knew, he knew. You dropped it. No I did. Did you drop this?
Starting point is 00:24:36 Sticky gussicky baby. All right. I think it's true. Welcome to the nick names. It also works with his hands. It does because he's got great hands. He's got sticky hands. They don't call him Sticky Kisicki for no reason, Andy.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah, I mean, this is going back to high school. Caleb Williams tweaked his ankle. Probably going to be OK. That was today's News and Notes, presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance. We'll take a break. We'll get into the studs. I know for a fact that as we come out of that break that Jason's been typing furiously on his keyboard.
Starting point is 00:25:15 What's going on? And I think, I think what he's doing is he's adding Sticky Gussicky to the nickname. Oh, it's added. Dashboard. Yeah. I knew it. Like our website shows the nicknames and he wasn't gonna let that one fly by. Sticky gosicky, that's just what people call him.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Just Mike's eyes when he knew so quickly. But he- It's what I'm here for. It might be a thing. We'll see. Jermaine Burton. Oh my goodness gracious. Jermaine Burton was supposed to have a game plan
Starting point is 00:25:44 built around him. No T. Higgins. Shows up in pajama pants, skips his Saturday walkthrough, doesn't play in the game. Yeah, if you did not hear the drama that unfolded rapidly, T. Higgins was going to be out. We were discussing, like, what do the Bengals do here at wide receiver? T. Higgins is so necessary here.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Like, I was casting some shade on just, I don't think Yoshivost is that guy for them. Could it be Jermaine Burton? Apparently, the Bengals were doing something of like, okay, let's get the rookie involved. Sorry, rewind just a little bit. Jermaine Burton, electric football player. He fell in the draft specifically because of character concerns. Like we're not sure that this guy has the- The drive, the commitment.
Starting point is 00:26:33 The mental makeup to make it in the NFL, which is just like an- It happens. Unbelievably grueling business for you to be in. This opportunity shows up for him. Apparently they had a huge game plan where Burton is gonna be involved, he's gonna be featured, he skips the walkthrough.
Starting point is 00:26:51 No show, no call. On Saturday doesn't call in, reportedly doesn't call in, shows up to the game in pajama pants, and then he's a healthy scratch, and it was so frustrating for that to be right there for him. And I mean, someone's gotta... This is...
Starting point is 00:27:11 We gotta get a mentor for this kid. It's all there, but on the path, he will wash out of the league so fast. This is also a team in a situation that is not gonna wait for him. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is also a team in a situation that is not gonna wait for him there right They need to win they need to win now, and they're not just here to baby This draft pick to hopefully get more out of them I mean they want more out of him, but they are you know it's just like having him be a healthy scratch It's like we don't have time for we don't have time for yes Yeah, they got a win dealt with it. They could have said okay, whatever. We don't have time for this. We've gotta go win games. They could have dealt with it. They could have said, okay, whatever, we don't care.
Starting point is 00:27:46 You're right. And this week specifically could be the difference between them taking a first day wide receiver. I mean, T. Higgins is moving on. And Jermaine Burton could have been the guy. So disappointing. Yeah. Let's get into the studs.
Starting point is 00:28:00 This week's fantasy stud muffins. None of the guys I played. None of the guys I played. I'll tell you that, Jason and I and. What's the opposite of a barn burner? A fart fest. Is that what it is? That's what we like to call it.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I don't know. The opposite of a barn is what? The opposite of a barn? It's a well. Oh, yeah. No, that's good. You raise a barn and It's a well. Oh, yeah. No, that's good, because you raise a barn and you dig a well. Is it the structure that you need the opposite, or is it a? And a well's water and a barn burner, and it's on fire.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Oh, so we had a well water. I was going to go like a barn builder, as opposed to the burner. Oh, because the burner burns it down? Is the opposite needed to be the building or the action that's happening to the structure? Whatever it is, we're not gonna score a hundred points, either of our teams. If it was BarnBurner and BarnBuilder though,
Starting point is 00:28:49 then the good one should be the builder. Then we would've had the BarnBurner. I don't know that you've ever seen a barn burn down. That's a good time. Yes. Anyways, yeah, collectively- You ever built a barn? Not fun.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Not a good time. I've never participated in either of those, Mike. I've never seen a barn. Andy and I's team in League of Record, we faced off against each other. I made- Did we? Is that what we did? Trades to leverage my future, to have big strong assets
Starting point is 00:29:16 like Jonathan Taylor, who did nothing. We covered your trade when you were out of office, allegedly at a school event making trades. But you always gotta be working. But yeah, I mean, Andy, your entire roster scored one touchdown. Yeah. And that includes my quarterback. Yeah, my entire roster, including my quarterback, scored one touchdown.
Starting point is 00:29:39 That's the worst. The worst. Yeah, I mean, this is studs, so let's focus on the good players. Jalen Hurst, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson, Geno Smith, your top performance at quarterback. Geno Smith. Burrow was the start of the week. You'll notice the absence of any Colts quarterbacks here.
Starting point is 00:29:59 That game went south last night. But Hurst has been on fire. I think he has 12 touchdowns, no interceptions in the last three games. Very good. I don't know how great he will be if he has to miss AJ Brown for any amount of time, but TBD on that entry. Yeah, every time Brown is out the numbers have been poor, but this has been a great run. Saquon's moving the offense. Joe Burrow could have had six touchdowns. He had five. They played Baltimore this week.
Starting point is 00:30:29 That's always fun. Oh those games are great. That will be a lot of fun. Joe Burrow's on pace for 38 passing touchdowns. I look I'm at the point now in the season where it's like I want to find that guy, that DAC player from last year that's lined up to dominate. And unfortunately for Burrow, I don't like the playoff schedule. You got to go on the road to Tennessee, then you got to play Cleveland Denver. No, you need the Phasers if you're looking for the second half DAC. Is that Kirk? That is.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Kirk Cousins has a phenomenal schedule down the stretch, playoff weeks. Now, needs Drake Lundenbeck, obviously. Yes, I mean, the weapons are important, but he's been playing good ball, and I know he didn't have a lot of fantasy points a couple weeks ago when they dominated, but that was because of the rushing touchdowns, but he has been really good.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I mean, three touchdowns this week, four touchdowns this week, four touchdowns last week. He can get it done down the stretch. Next Wednesday, and he was on waiver wire before this week in our league, next Wednesday we'll do a playoff primer and get you ready with the best schedules
Starting point is 00:31:37 for every position, so we won't focus on that today. We'll let another week get under our belt and then we'll go ahead and dive in. But big performances, you know, nice to see Josh Allen, he's a quarterback five on the year, overcome the digs departure and, you know, Noel Murray Cooper this week. Pretty impervious to the personnel at times
Starting point is 00:31:55 and then, you know, Darnold performed well last night as well, so some good performances at quarterback. None of them played for Jason or I. Yeah, Darnold gets the Jaguars next week. Yeah. Yeah, he does. Oh, that's very nice. Running back leaders this week.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Hello, Saquon. He was so awesome. And if you haven't seen, which I don't know how you haven't seen, because it's everywhere, but he backward hurdled a guy. It was so cool. It was incredible. Yeah. I mean, they're going todled the guy. It was so cool. It was incredible. Yeah. I mean, they're gonna kill the man.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I feel like he had 75 rushing attempts. Every play was just give it to Saquon and watch him be a stud, but he has been a stud. Barkley, number one on the week. Jason's My Guy, Devon H-chan, number two on the week. Eight catches. Derrick Henry, Alan Camara, who will be worked to death the rest of the year, and then Chase Brown.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Chase Brown getting it done for the, he got a receiving touchdown for the Bengals. He's been really good since he started getting more work. I mean, you can go back all the way to week four, you look at his fantasy points scored, and he's only got one week since week four where he's not double-digit fantasy production and half PPR scoring so with Moss being injured he had a hundred percent of the Running back rush attempts, and this is a player. I think you can somewhat rely on although Baltimore this week tough matchup for running max
Starting point is 00:33:20 I do want to go back to my dude Devon a Chan just to make sure people know how for running mechs. I do want to go back to my dude, Devon A. Chan, just to make sure people know how insane, just to make sure you two know how insane his performances have been. And the four starts with Tuah. Here's his pace, okay? He is on pace through those four games for 229 carries and 1,190 rushing yards. That's very solid. He is also on pace for 11 hundred and nineteen receptions not targets 119 receptions with over a thousand receiving yards and 13 receiving touchdowns He is averaging twenty four point three fantasy points per game and half PPR scoring
Starting point is 00:33:55 It's a it's crazy and full PPR scoring because he's I mean like I said 119 reception pace That's that's yeah, what you want from your wide receiver ones. That's what you want from Jaylen Waddle, and that's why Waddle doesn't exist right now, is because of the incredible involvement in the passing game of both. Devon Aitchand first, and then even the involvement of Johnny Smith in this year's offense.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Waddle has disappeared. You're locked into a touchdown with him. And then you unlocked into negative yards on a, what are those plays called? The hook and ladder. Hook and ladder play. Yeah, I mean you wanna waddle away from him right now. This is not, target share wise, Tyree kills number one
Starting point is 00:34:37 with Tua and A Chan is number two, over 20%. So Jason, you went after him, you told people to buy low before the two are returned. We are all just praying to us days upright the rest of the year. And A-chan. I mean, he carries his own itty bitty baby boy risks. Mike did not get pushed off of Chuba Hubbard
Starting point is 00:35:00 and it paid off, 15 for 72 and two for Chuba Hubbard, Ramandre two more touchdowns. But that's it. That's it for Chuba Hubbard and it paid off 15 for 72 and two for Chuba Hubbard. Ramandre two more touchdowns. Oh, but that's it. That's it for Chuba, everybody. Oh, we told him because Jonathan Brooks is coming back. I thought you were saying that's it for Ramandre when he said Ramandre had two touchdowns because you're not wrong. That is also true.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Ramandre had two touchdowns, got all the work. I mean, he's just, he's been, the utilization has been crazy with him. He's getting all the work, I mean he's just, he's been, the utilization has been crazy with him. He's getting all the work for no yards. He has four of his games inside the top 10 at the position. Four of them. Yeah, over the last two weeks, he has 30. We can go, I'll give you this. 30 rushing attempts for 64 yards.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Over the last three weeks, he is running for 2.2 a carry. Yeah but he is their guy and around the red zone and they have nobody else and he did catch five passes in this game. Rico Dowdle 12 for 75, 5 for 32 and 1 had a juggling catch that got everybody in the studio all excited? It was very funny. It seems like, first Dak, Rico was wide open immediately on the play for whatever reason Dak did not unload it, scrambled around a little bit, made the play difficult.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Then the pass was still easy. Rico drops it and turns it into one of the circus catches. It's one of the first catches they actually credit him with three receptions on the play. The question for Rico, next week is Philadelphia. That kind of stinks. But Zeke was a healthy scratch because he was being disciplined as well.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I think he's not very happy with his role on the team right now, showing up late to meetings and things. That's what's being reported. But as of right now, Rico has two games of 50 or more, 50 or more percent of the snaps for the Cowboys. And in both of those games, he's an RB1. I don't know if they're gonna make a move at running back. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It seems stupid for them to buy, but they've also been doing a lot of stupid stuff this year. Why did Receiver perform? Did you want to comment on Doudle? I think Doudle will be an OK start almost rest of season. And I've been as out on Doudle as, I've doudled him the whole season. But it does appear that he is going to get the
Starting point is 00:37:26 opportunity especially with what happened with Zeke now like you said the Cowboys have done crazy things all year so they'll bring Zeke back and make him the starter and no one will be shocked but also Bijon had a great game want to point this out though on Bijon I saw JJ Zacharyson, he pointed this out, and it's fascinating about the running back rush attempts on Bijon this year, and how it's gone back and forth week after week. Have you guys seen this? No. So the running back rush attempts, the share of running back rushes that go to Bijon, week
Starting point is 00:38:00 one, 86%. Week two is down to 61%. Week three, up to 70%. Week four, down to 61%. Week three, up to 70%. Week four, down to 47%. Week five, up to 67%. Week six, down to 45%. Week seven, up to 68%. Week eight, down to 52%.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Week nine, up to 76%. Yeah, it's all over the place. I mean, but it's like, it's exactly every, is this like a game plan where it's like, to keep him fresh every other week, they're gonna let him unleash, and then every other week kind of time share it it's just so weird that it's exactly every other week for this long this is over months. Algier did get into the end zone again in this one. Yeah yeah he did. Top five
Starting point is 00:38:37 scores at wide receiver JSN with 33 and a half points Zay Flowers, Garrett Wilson, Demarcus Robinson, Quinton, Johnston, in fact the NFL fantasy account pointed out the fact that all four first round wide outs from 2023 scored this week in JSN, Quinton, Johnston, Zay Flowers, and Addison. That is the first time they have all scored a touchdown in the same week. Flowers had two, JSN had two, Garrett had two,
Starting point is 00:39:03 and Quinton, Johnston, four for 118 and one. So. They were all pretty awesome. Like they all played very well. I don't even know who I wanna talk the highest of, but I'm between Quinton Johnston and Zay Flowers. Zay Flowers is so good. Unbelievable out there.
Starting point is 00:39:18 He was just, he was making a fool of defenders, getting open like crazy and doing, you know, whatever he wanted going forward, it's tough in that offense because there's just so many different ways they can score. What is your thought process on JSN specifically moving forward? Because they go into the bye week, DK Metcalf has missed time. They are sitting at the bottom of the division.
Starting point is 00:39:40 There have been rumors about DK Metcalf being traded. I don't know if that'll happen I obviously the odds are against that happening, but I do think it's possible there have been rumors With the Steelers the Broncos who are competitive and some other teams that have more space Seahawks have to decide whether they are Like in right now Cardinals at five and four the rest of the teams at four and four So I guess is Jason a Cardinals at five and four, the rest of the teams at four and four. So is JSA any player you can go get or is this performance take him off the table? I believe that, well you could definitely go get him because I think people are aware
Starting point is 00:40:16 there was no DK Metcalf in this game and so that's obviously going to elevate his target market share, his opportunities and if you watch the end the game, this was like a must throw the ball, the clock is running out, we're down, back and forth affair with the Rams. So I think this was situational. He is obviously very talented. He's capable of doing this, but this is not normal or prescriptive of the future,
Starting point is 00:40:37 unless the trade for DK Metcalfe happens. So if you're out there and you really believe Metcalfe's gonna be traded, you've got about a 24 hour window to capitalize on it and get JSN, but you're not gonna have him this week with the buy. I personally don't think Metcalf is traded, so I'm not hot and bothered by JSN here. In fact, I think the player who's maybe the most prescriptive of this four-pack, as gross as it sounds, might be Quentin Johnston.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Quentin Johnston. Oh, he's on waiver wires. That's what I'm saying. He's available to get. And he was looking good before the injury, which we kind of discounted because you just don't have enough. Well, you discount it because those first four weeks
Starting point is 00:41:13 or whatever it was, they were so high T. And it was. Yeah, it was touchdown only. It wasn't yardage. This is a hundred yard game for him. Like the last month, the team is opening things up for Justin Herbert. You know it's I like Lad McConkey in this past week. I didn't realize that Hughes was gonna come out and put up four for 118. First hundred
Starting point is 00:41:33 yard game of his career. So I do I think Quinton Johnston is going to be a very he'll be the priority add but I think it's worth it of like if if this is really what this team is, figuring out that they have a great quarterback and they should throw the ball more, then you get him more volume and things will happen. Well in Dobbins, we didn't talk about it in the running backs, but he scored twice.
Starting point is 00:41:54 This is a balanced offense that dominated start to finish. Herbert is so effective, especially in play action. And Quinton Johnson closing in on the total fantasy points he scored last year through only six games played. Devontae Adams big night on Thursday night. Darnell Mooney continues to dominate and if Drake London misses any time, Mooney is a must start type of player. He's the wide receiver 12 on this season.
Starting point is 00:42:21 That's crazy. I mean he has been an important piece to a very good offense. Devontae Smith was doing nothing, then he was doing everything. Yeah. Four for 87 and a touchdown. We were late in the game and I was complaining because I've got the Jalen Hurts, Devontae Smith stack and I'm like, he's one for nine. He missed practice the whole week for personal reasons and we're like, is he just not a part
Starting point is 00:42:42 of the game? Okay, there he is. Well, AJ Brown got knocked out and then and then Devante had that huge touchdown catch I'm seeing news that head coach Antonio Pierce by the way Raiders head coach has not decided on a new OC or quarterback Maybe they'll be the same guy. So that's an empty offense. We're gonna dude You can't start Desmond Ritter. That's been proven, that's just science.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm not, oh man, they're in a bad situation. Justin Jefferson, seven for 137. Cedric Tillman, 11 target, seven, 75 yards in a touchdown going into the bye week. Boss touchdown, I mean that touchdown was not called the touchdown on the field because it seemed impossible and then you look at the replay and you're like also very stinky garbage yeah but I mean I just care about the
Starting point is 00:43:33 capabilities of the wide receivers I mean this is a day two draft pick last year who just vanished from the NFL and now is there are no legit better quarterbacks for garbage time than James Winston. That is probably true. And for the first time in the history of this program, I want to talk positively about Cortland Sutton. Ten targets, seven for 122 through a touchdown pass. That pass funnel that Baltimore's got going on continues. Sutton has had two straight weeks, suddenly 18 and six.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And he also was. 21 targets in that span. He was also, he's the clear number one for this team. I know he had a goose a couple weeks back, but over the course of the season, I mean he is so dominantly the wide receiver one for this franchise as Bo Nix gets better and better And he was just missed on a touchdown. Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:28 This week so he could have had an even bigger game on pace for 130 targets this year We'll take a break. We'll hit the tight ends and then we'll talk about them stinkers Top five tight end scores of the week, Sticky Gussicki with 24.5 fantasy points. And that ends our predictive list. I mean, it was like Josh Oliver, Taysom Hill, Theo Johnson. Brock Bauer's got to 13 because he will, just targets. But Sticky Gussicki was the pick. Trey McBride had him, he still has no receiving touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:45:08 but he did get another touchdown. He had a rushing touchdown this week. Oh, it saved his day, too. Three for 35 through the year. Have you tweeted out that play? You got a tweet? Well, Ian Hart, I was going to cut it myself, and Ian Hart had already posted it,
Starting point is 00:45:22 so I'll just retweet it. Yeah, I mean, it's, we were watching it live, and it mattered because Kyler... Just shrieking at the TV. Kyler was Andy's... I mean, it's a... ...League of Record quarterback, and there's a play where they sell out as a run with only one player... On the goal line.
Starting point is 00:45:39 ...on the goal line. They're clearly running the ball, and they leak one player, just one player, to the back of the end zone on a play action. So the play is only designed to go to one guy. And it was Trey McBride. Which is what made it so confusing. And he was, when we say wide open,
Starting point is 00:45:55 I mean you gotta watch his play. The defense didn't know he existed. You know how they print the letters in the end zone of the team name? Right. There was the full letters gap plus a little more between him. He could read the whole Cardinals. Yeah, he was on the zone of the team name. Right. There was the full letters gap plus a little more between him. He could read the whole Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah, he was on the top of the word, and everyone else was on the bottom of the word. And Kyler just didn't throw the ball. It's not partial blindness. It seemed like he looked right at him. This year, no player has been screenshotted missing wide open players more than Kyler Murray. I don't know if it is.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I don't know if it's that he can't see over the line, like you know the hole, like oh he's shorty. Maybe he can't see him. But even if you couldn't see him. That's the play you called. You literally could have done this blindfolded. You could have closed your eyes, faked the handoff, turned around and throw it to a spot anywhere over to my right and it would have been a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:46:40 He didn't throw the ball. But they did make up for it by giving him a rushing touchdown a drive later I mean for so McBride Harrison Kyler okay all three of them disastrous fantasy yes okay I guess McBride McBride was three for 35 with a touchdown yeah I mean on not disastrous but to your expectations for targets. My point is that the Cardinals won 29 to nine. Their defense gave up no points in the second half. So it's just weird when, like, I saw the COD, Kyler criticisms coming out again.
Starting point is 00:47:16 They won 29 to nine, they're leading the NFC West. It was a fantasy production thing. It's that the team is, they're finding the identity of the team, and it's James Connor. Well, look, when you're winning like that, and your defense is playing like that, I don't think Kyler did a thing wrong
Starting point is 00:47:34 outside of that one play in the game. Because there's nothing you should have had to do that was different. You ran for 150 on the ground. He only attempted eight passes in the second half. Yeah, because it was just... He didn't have to run. But it should tell you something about what can happen here. I've lost three times this year because of Kyler Murray. Mm-hmm. Where I've played him. I didn't play him last week against Miami. It has a huge game. Yeah, so he's won, he's won a like four weeks here over 20 points for Kyler.
Starting point is 00:48:07 That's, that will really really help your team win but the other times are just... Yeah, you should just push the button because we're already into it. Pooped in his big boy pants. Kyler Murray. Yeah, Kyler also got credited with a fumble that was so not his fault. No, oh my gosh, the running back goes to take the hand off and his hands are closed before the ball. You open the monster dude and then you chomp down on the ball. Go back to Pee-wee. I was going to say, your son plays football.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah. Do they tell you to keep your arms closed when they hand the football? You don't reach for the ball with your hands. Open the monster. Just make the target. The quarterback shoves it right in your tummy. But Kyler's finished as the quarterback 1, 7, 6, and 10.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Those are his good weeks. Those are great. But this week he scored in half point, 4 point scoring. He scored 4.8 fantasy points. That might be his all time historical low in a game. I would imagine it is. I think it is.
Starting point is 00:49:12 If you take out any game that he got injured, he really didn't play well, or did not play poorly. He played pretty well in this game, they didn't need him. The sucky thing though going forward is that you can see situations where they're not utilizing the running. They don't need him the the sucky thing though going forward is that you can see situations where they're not Utilizing the running they don't need to they don't need to and it's not it's not a guarantee that it's gonna happen every game And that's always been the baseline for fantasy of those Type of fantasy assets those true dual threat quarterbacks where it's like hey
Starting point is 00:49:40 Even if he doesn't throw a touchdown this game He you know he might have 50 rushing yards and that's fine. You just don't see a lot of games. Kyler Murray had six rushing yards this week. He has a week earlier this year with 14 rushing yards and a week earlier with three rushing yards. That's not a dual threat quarterback. And Marvin Harrison can't catch a competitive pass.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Well, some weeks. He caught them all last week. Jordan Love, also just a terrible performance, 273, no touchdowns, threw a pick. Yes, it was raining, but he was hurting. He was hurting. It's really tough. I want to throw this in the garbage. I really do because that wasn't just raining.
Starting point is 00:50:24 That was like a swamp. I mean, it was awful. However, Jared Goff could complete passes. He threw the ball down the field and hit receivers in stride. He was in- The yardage was good for love. He wasn't in a dissimilar game. He was in identical. He was on the same field. So I think some of it's got to be the injury. some of it's got to be the weather, but the Packers were, they had the crap beat out of them. Overall game plan, because yeah, Goff threw the ball 22 times for 145 yards. That's 6.6 yards per attempt. That's not challenging the defense at all. That's just taking little dinks and dunks because Monte and Gibbs were so effective. So, Love, maybe you can throw it away,
Starting point is 00:51:10 but they go into the bye, you can get healthy, then they play Chicago, San Francisco. Love is right on the edge of that, I definitely want for the rest of the season, quarterback for me. I don't know it definitively. Yeah, I get it. But he's on the edge of that,
Starting point is 00:51:24 but that's where Kyler lives. But he's on the edge of that, but that's where Kyler lives. Kyler lives on the edge of that. There's a lot of quarterbacks right on the edge of like, do I trade this player or do I just write it out? It's really tough with love because they're going into their bye week. Then they've got Chicago, which is who Kyler just played,
Starting point is 00:51:39 who is, they're not great against the run. They are awesome against quarterbacks, wide receivers. Their pass defense is great. Then they've got San Francisco, so it's a tough three week stretch. If you're gonna go by Jordan Love, I don't think you're gonna wanna rely on him to be that dude starting now.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I mean, obviously not starting now on a bye week. Jonathan Taylor heads up our duds at the running back position, 13 for 48 on the ground. Just three for 11 through the air. Five targets. Jason, this was not a good start to the, I hope Jonathan Taylor's the running back one rest of season.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah, that's kind of like the bet I was trying to make. I was really hoping to trade for a superstar that could essentially get five targets in the passer game. He looked so, he's looked great every time we've seen him on the field this year until I trade for him. However Minnesota's run defense is elite, very difficult to run against them and they proved it. Buffalo? I think he'll be better next year. Buffalo, New York, Detroit, New England. So the next three of the next four weeks are plus matchups for running backs.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Buffalo, you can run on them. The Jets, you can run on them. New England, you can run on them. Detroit, not so much. What happens if Flacco keeps losing? Oh man. I don't think this one was a very fair fight, so to speak. I mean, it was tough, tough environment.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Tough to go in there with the Blitz packages that Brian Flores throws your way in Minnesota and get it done, but he clearly didn't get it done. Yeah, it's like a yes and no situation on, I don't think when you are the age and the experience that Joe Flacco is that you're allowed to be like, ah, they had some tough Blitz packages with a good defense.
Starting point is 00:53:22 That's the point. That's why we went to Flacco's so that you can handle those things. And he straight up did not handle those things. He looked atrocious. He threw a really nasty pick on the sideline. Josh Downs had a dud of a game because of it. Yeah, he also, he had several times where he just should have uncorked the ball, was hesitant, and then got sacked. So hugely disappointing. I don't know why he wasn't in the duds, but Joe Flacco was a huge dud.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I made the decision last minute in fear of Flacco and the Blitz packages to throw the illustrious Kyler Murray into a lineup to score an extra two points. Oh, so it was the right decision. Oh yeah, six to four. Congratulations. Process and results. Oh baby, yeah. Six to four. Congratulations. Process and results. Oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Yeah, I'm getting it done. What do you do with the Jags running back here? Yeah, Etienne and Bigsby. Philadelphia, I've been saying this for a few weeks. Their defense is very good. Go look at it. Their numbers, when we break it down on the matchup shows are very, very elite across the board.
Starting point is 00:54:28 So ETN struggled, Tank Bigsby, Stank Bigsby, ETN caught two passes, they both stink and they're gonna stink in matchups like this because this offense is toasted. So the next two weeks? Who are the matches? Minnesota and Detroit? Yeah, I don't think I want to... The rule on ETN, and I heard you reinforce it on Sunday Live,
Starting point is 00:54:50 it was show me it on the field before you're going to be in my lineup. Well, he's not going to be in your lineup, because he didn't show it on the field. Also the split, 31%. Yeah, he had three rushing attempts. De'Ernest got work. You can't start a player. Not only did Deurnis get work, Andy,
Starting point is 00:55:05 I don't know if you caught this. The final attempt here for the huge comeback that the Jags were mounting. Most important play of the game. Was a fade type route to Deurnis Johnson. A fade route is a tough one to pull off. But if you got a superstar wide receiver, okay. Maybe you're running back one.
Starting point is 00:55:28 That's probably not good. You're running back three? Let me try this out. Yeah, like, hey, hey, hey, grandkids, Doug Peterson's grandkids. I was a head coach once upon a time, and I had a chance to stay being a head coach, but I lost because I threw a fade to De'Orness Johnson. Yep. Nick Chubb, little Chubb, 15 for 39.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Didn't work out. Jerome Ford returned. The 15 carries, though, are noticeable. I watched him, though, and he's just not there yet. Yeah, I agree. He's not there yet. They're going into their bye, but. Well, he had 16 last week.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah. He's getting the work, it's just. He is becoming their lead guy, it's just a matter of whether you believe he's going to return to form at any point this season or not. The positive that you can give for Nick Schubb right now is it's a bye week, get another rehab, try and get a little bit stronger, and then you are against the New Orleans Saints. Yeah, but then.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Who everybody's been able to run on there. Yeah, the Saints are a great matchup. He should be good there, but the stretch run after that, Pittsburgh's tough, Denver's tough. I didn't go into that, I just said the good news. Pittsburgh's tough, Kansas City's tough. I mean, Rico Dowdle or Chubb rest of season, I would take Dowdle.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I would as well. Chubb's not gonna catch passes, Jerome Ford is healthy, and the team needs game scripts that are conducive to what Chubb does best, and I'm worried about him. Alexander Madison was not a good nine for 36, lost the goal line carry to Zameer White. And he was on the back of the Abdullah Express. They were down. Oh, he still exists.
Starting point is 00:57:01 They were down in this game. Remember we had posters made for the Abdullah Express? Yeah, was very excited for him here. Abdullah didn't work out. There it is. There's the Abdullah Express. Looks just like that little wooden toy train. Yeah, he was actually very involved as they were down.
Starting point is 00:57:18 So that's a tough thing to see because you would hope that Alexander Madison would be more of the pass catching back, but he was not, it was Abdullah. Well, Puka at wide receiver, one for 11 and a punch out. What are you doing Puka? He's keeping his knee healthy. It's really dumb, I don't understand why any player
Starting point is 00:57:39 punches a helmet. Ever, why would you ever punch a guy in the helmet? It also was a- It's like getting out of a car in a road rage scenario and punching the truck right like with your fit Yeah, punch the window. I'll show you you don't hurt the person you hurt your hand It was also you thought that call was soft out. Yes. It's a weak suspension. It looked like a pretty small Like it was so close to a shot It was like a shove to the helmet more than anything. If his hand was open.
Starting point is 00:58:05 With a closed fist? Yes, but it wasn't. It was soft. It wasn't like a wind up. It wasn't an uppercut, you know? It wasn't a wind up. It was like, the guy pushes him, he just kind of, he just kind of barely hits that. I think it was a little soft.
Starting point is 00:58:15 It was soft, it was weak. But regardless, you ended up with no puka in the game, not for injury reasons, but for ejection reasons. And they won anyways. They did. DeMarcus Robinson was great. Yeah, I mean that's back to back games with double touchdowns, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:34 But don't play him because that's the only way you can ruin it. Marvin Harrison, 2 for 34 in a fumble. Five duds, four good games. Do we need to have the conversation about Marvin Harrison being more of a, a pivotable play in bad matchups where you see the game scripts going sideways? He has to play the Jets and that secondary next week, then goes into the bye week. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I wouldn't be putting in like spot start waiver fodder over him. No, let me let me read this though six weeks span Okay, why does here 26 58 113 161 13 he got hurt that was 14% of snaps Just saying if you get knocked out at the very beginning of the game I'm not gonna hold that against it's just that the lows for Harrison are 62, 58, and 74. I throw that game out. You've been happy once in six weeks? Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:32 That's all I'm saying. Yep. And right now he feels like one of those players that people will start until their season is over, and I'm not sure that there aren't some other names out there that you might, on a certain week, want to get into your lineup. I mean, nobody started JSN over Marvin Harrison this week.
Starting point is 00:59:48 But that was a decision you could've made against the Rams. And that's all I'm saying is maybe you should think about. And I will say that you need to be looking at the matchups a little bit, because if you look, you know, he was good against the Rams when they were beat up. Detroit is a team that you could throw on, not run on.
Starting point is 01:00:03 He was good. Washington's defense, you know, they've gotten okay, but they're not a world beater. When he plays, San Francisco's a great defense. Green Bay's a great defense. The Chargers have been a good defense. Chicago's a great, I just brought that up, a great pass defense. Those are the duds, duds, duds. So this week against the Jets and Saas Gardner, I'm not sure he's ready. If the Cardinals could hand it off, we know this, if they could hand it off every play they would. That's the new offense for them. And how do you beat the
Starting point is 01:00:26 Jets? You run the football. So this is not a Marvin Week. I would look for if you've got other good options. I mean the question is gonna come up. It's gonna be because of the week, Quinton Johnson or Marvin Harrison. That will come up. Who does QGE play this week? Unless they're in the bye. They're not in the bye, right? No, they've already had their bye. They play Tennessee, the Titans, who are number one against wide receivers. So that won't come up.
Starting point is 01:00:53 No. That won't come up. Jalen Waddle, two for negative four and a touchdown, irrelevant. Jalen Waddle was the number one player that I saw comments about this weekend across the board. Yes, I know he got into the end zone. It was a two yard catch. That's not enough. Not involved in the offense. Do we know what his yardage was? It was a seven yard. Yeah, we got two up,
Starting point is 01:01:13 ass complete, to waddle for 12, and then the touchdown was a seven yarder. Okay. Then he lost 23 yards on the scramble play. His actual line, which still is bad, is 2 for 19 with a touchdown and he disappeared for the vast majority of the game because the 23 negative yards. And he got hurt and came back. Oh he pulled out. Yeah. I can't believe. He did. He waddled. I can't believe this guy does it every game. It's a joke that is not a joke at all. We're watching and I felt bad on this one. Yeah. Because it looked like the way he was. Well, we thought he got like a broken leg.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Yeah, I thought he broke his leg. He had to have broken his leg with how he was acting on the field. And then it was like two plays later, he's back out there. It's like. That's the least a 10th time this happened. At least.
Starting point is 01:02:00 At least 10 times. I mean, that's gotta be significantly low because he's had to have played 30 or 40 games in his career. And at least half he's gone out injured and came back. It's, I think it's a, I don't wanna, I'm gonna whisper it, cause I just feel bad about it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I think it's pain tolerance. Going soft. I'm, I don't know what to say. I mean, it's hard to play in the NFL. I'm not soft. I'm... God. I don't know what to say. I mean, it's hard to play in the NFL. I'm not saying I wouldn't. Yeah, have you ever been, like, slide kick cleated? Yes, I have. When we played flag football, it sucks.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Get up, you play the next play. Sorry. Not by a 380 pound monitor. My experience from flag football. We've all been there. From adult Flagstaff. Well, I don't remember you rolling around grabbing your leg. That's for sure.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Michael Pittman was not a thing. 1 for 14. The Colts offense was just. By low on Brian Thomas Jr., him coming off the injury playing Philadelphia. Sure. Got the pass funnels of Minnesota and Detroit coming up. Yeah. That's one I would look at. I love that. Keon Coleman should have scored but just won for 21 despite Noah Murray Cooper
Starting point is 01:03:12 and now a wrist injury that's disappointing. DJ Moore, Mike, you said it. You said you wouldn't mess around with it. It looks bad. Nine targets brother. I guess they are the Bears wide receivers is the craziest situation of It looks bad. Nine targets, brother. The Bears wide receivers is the craziest situation of all these plus matchups, good players, and no production. And sometimes the team scores points, and I don't know where they go. Hey, guys, we're back in the doldrums tied in. Sam Laporte, 2 for 28, Nijoku, 5 for 29, Mark Andrews, 2 for 26,
Starting point is 01:03:44 Hawkinson, 3 for 27, Pitts, 1 Kincaid 4 for 32 commit 0 for 0 and Zachary it's 1 for 5 that is uh though almost all those players were started this week yeah I mean that's who you started which is why Trey McBride had a just a great just Lee good we dominated your competition because it's sticky baby sticky good sticky I mean literally It's just an outrageously good week. He dominated your competition, because the competition's Sticky Gesicki, baby. Sticky Gesicki. I mean, literally, Gesicki was, other than Gesicki and McBride, they were like the only two that were recommended that performed. I mean, you got Kelsey tonight, and you got Otten tonight.
Starting point is 01:04:14 So that top five should change, because both those guys very capable of entering the top five with the very low Josh Oliver bar set. I would assume that Otten will be in the top five. I think Kelsey will too. We whispered about Taysom Hill, especially, I feel like he came up on Sunday live maybe, but it was with Jamal being out and Kendra Miller being on IR. It was like, oh, Taysom Hill, this is probably where he scores. All right, tomorrow, waivers, big time waivers show,
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