Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - Week 9 Studs, Duds, and Supervillains! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/6

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Week 9 recap on today’s fantasy football podcast! Reactions to a monster week from C.J. Stroud, the Travis Kelce dud, and the Gabe Davis goose! Plus, can Bijan Robinson overcome the NFL’s greatest... supervillain? All this and the Week 9 edition of Monday Punday! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for November 6th, 2023. Connect with the show: Subscribe on YouTube Visit us on the Web Support the Show Follow on Twitter Follow on Instagram Join our Discord Check out today's sponsors: News & Notes presented by USAA. Visit https://USAA.com/Insurance Studs of the Week, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. Visit youtube.com/fantasyfootballers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the podcast. That's the Fantasy Footballers Podcast if you're nasty. And I'm nasty The nasty boys are here today everybody Welcome in I'm your host today There's a bear here too There's a nasty bear Mike the Fantasy Hitman Wright your host for the day
Starting point is 00:01:35 Joined by my best friend Jason Moore What's up best friend Hello best friend Jay Grizz AKA Cardboard Bear Extraordinaire AKA Jay Riz he is loving uh he's loving himself uh what's what he's seeing from the bears i mean the process but he he did inform us we may have to have an official nickname change oh really yes uh of who of the quarterback of bilbo bagent okay because we didn't
Starting point is 00:02:09 know how to say his name at first right and we thought it was bat yeah so it was bilbo bagent but then it turns out it's bagent right and it doesn't flow and it doesn't sound that great so he has been polling for secret bagent man. All names on this show need to have a fun musical soundbite because that's how we work here. But anyways, welcome into the show, Monday, November 6th. Crazy, crazy week of football. A lot of very disappointing things, and yet some very incredible things like Josh freaking Dobbs.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Oh, man. Destroying the supervillain. Yes. That is snidely whiplash freaking Arthur Smith. No practice. It took Josh Dobbs literally nothing. He walked in off of the, he flew in, went right to the stadium, got the call, and defeated Arthur Smith.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Keep in mind, he didn't even get the five days of practice with the first team. He wasn't supposed to start. The starter goes out injured, and the backup, who doesn't know this system, comes in and beats Arthur Smith down for all fantasy football managers. Thank you, Josh Dubs. Oh, you're giving him the dub? Yeah, I mean, he got the dub.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yes. We are all forever indebted to Joshua Dobbs for the service that he provided in week nine. Oh. What? I was just thinking. to Joshua Dobbs for the service that he provided in week nine. Oh, what? I was just thinking. I was like, oh, man, who am I going to root for this week against the Atlanta Falcons? Who am I going to root for? It's our Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yes. And Kyler, let's go. Now, are you- For America! Are you conflicted? No, I'm not conflicted at all. I want a pure and utter beatdown of Arthur Smith. You want to sacrifice the number one pick to beat Arthur Smith?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Set it on fire. We're not going to get the number one pick with Kyler. Probably not. But anyways, follow us on the social medias, Instagram.com slash Fantasy Footballers. The social team is always hard at work putting up incredible content out there and over on Twitter slash X at the FF ballers. You can
Starting point is 00:04:30 follow Jason at Jason FFL. I am at FF Hitman and Andy is at Andy Holloway. Jason. Are you feeling sophisticated? So sophisticated. We will start with CJ Wowed. Oh, CJ Proud.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Tank Delicious. Tank Dale Yeah Man. Or what about Taste Some Heel Yeah Man. Run Mondray Stevenson. Go forever. Oh, we have a late-breaking addition. Cleveland, weee-estee. And Dalton King-cade.
Starting point is 00:05:14 But it wasn't all great. Travis P.U. Smelsie. Pooper Cup. Oh, no. Devin Dingleberry is back. Dookie Metcalf. Tony Poulard. And my personal favorite, Brett Rippin Farts.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And, of course, Arthur Smithereens as he was blown into a thousand Smithereens. Smithereens, that's a good word. I don't think I've said the phrase blown into a thousand smithereens in a very long time, and I'm disappointed in myself. What does smithereens actually mean? They're just, it's a real small something. Really? No, I don't know what it actually means, but when I use it in- Small broken pieces.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah, there we go. Okay. Smithereens. How did they, where did that word come from? I'm on it. Like, did. From the Irish word smithereeny, which means little bits. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Okay. Okay. I was going to go into a soliloquy about a man named Smithers who was met. Who got blown up. Met an unfortunate ending. Okay. Pretty dark. Hey, man, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:27 But that was the puns. Thank you so much for everyone who shared them this week. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. If you missed it, the Chargers placed Darren Waller on the IR with a hamstring injury that stinks big time. There's more bad news for the Giants coming up.
Starting point is 00:06:54 The Chargers also placed Joshua Palmer on the IR with his knee injury before we got a fun game tonight. Giants quarterback Daniel Jones likely out for the year with a torn ACL sorry, they got to confirm with the MRI
Starting point is 00:07:13 Tyrod Taylor's out on IR which leaves Tommy, not Danny DeVito and Matt Barkley is on the practice squad if you saw the Daniel Jones sequence of events, it was a big-time bummer. He was trying to evade pressure,
Starting point is 00:07:32 as Daniel Jones has had to do very, very many times this year, and then just went down non-contact. He thought he could get up and play through it. The very next play, takes his drop back, plants, and just crumples. Goes down like a sack of potatoes, and you knew that something was really wrong with Daniel at that point. Yeah, and Tommy Danny DeVito is, man, he's not good enough. There's a couple backups playing this week
Starting point is 00:08:00 that are just not good enough to be in the NFL. I mean, in's a, in his defense, he has a third stringer who is not ready yet to, to start. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's fair. He shouldn't be starting, but right now it looks like he might have to continue starting with the injury to, you know, Tyron Taylor's on IR, uh, with his So as of now, it looks like it's Danny DeVito, who I'll tell you what, man, Daniel Jones had been terrible. But if you ever want to look at Daniel Jones like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Danny DeVito comes in here. You got a twin situation where it's like, man, give me Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is the Arnold one?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yes, for sure kyle is suggesting carson wentz or matt ryan jay carson wins well here's the bet here's the thing the the giants are on their way the season is over yes they've already lost so many games they don't need to bring someone in to try to win they just they need to go after that number one pick and have you know they're they're in the running now for Caleb Williams sure yeah it's probably in their best interest to trust the process for next year Eagles tight end Dallas Goddard who fractured his forearm against the Cowboys he expect he is expected to have surgery miss about four weeks.
Starting point is 00:09:27 So probably we're going to see IR, but it is not season ending. Yeah, I would guess that he will go on IR. This is unfortunate news, obviously, for Dallas Goddard, for the managers, for the Eagles. However, we did see
Starting point is 00:09:42 when Dallas Goddard missed games last year. That is where Devontae Smith caught fire. Huge bump. Huge bump up for Devontae Smith. Vikings running back Cam Akers tore his Achilles on Sunday. No, this is not deja vu.
Starting point is 00:09:58 This is not a repeat. This is a new injury to his other leg. So he has now torn both Achilles. Unfortunate. I mean, that's the end. That is his career. That is the end.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The reason that Joshua Dobbs became a national hero, which I am starting a GoFundMe for a parade. Oh, just a parade. And it's going to go from Minneapolis or it's gonna go from Minneapolis down to Atlanta nice just it's gonna finish there it's gonna finish at Arthur Smith's front yeah yes okay yes perfect and look I mean I don't know for sure but I think that the people of Atlanta will also be celebrating that once Arthur is gone. I know for sure that, you know, we know some Falcons fans.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They absolutely hate Arthur Smith because all people hate Arthur Smith. He is the supervillain. It's been a self-fulfilling prophecy of him getting himself into this situation where people on the outside are getting frustrated with him, and then he just doubles down, and then we double down, and we're in the quadruple down portion of the back and forth. It's only going to get worse. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Oh, certainly. So I haven't watched any of his press conference yet from the loss. Oh, I have not either. But I really want to do that. There's got to be some gems of him being an ornery old know-it-all man talking down to people. We're pulling the projector screen down, Jay. We're having a whole group viewing.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Get the popcorn. Inside of the fantasy footballers headquarters. The reason why Josh Stiles was playing is because Jaron Hall left with a concussion as did KJ Osborne. Both were brutal hits. KJ Osborne was out cold for
Starting point is 00:11:56 a bit but seemed to be okay-ish. I mean he has a head injury but was kind of smiling waving as he was getting carted off. Josh Downs of the Colts, he aggravated his knee injury. He had to exit early, so he will be questionable going into next week. Packers wide receiver Christian Watson was evaluated for chest
Starting point is 00:12:17 and back injuries on Sunday against the Rams. He was also evaluated for a concussion towards the end of the game. This guy, I mean, he cannot stay healthy. No, that's been his biggest issue is staying healthy. Although, I don't know at this point if that's the biggest issue or if Jordan Love being his quarterback is the biggest issue. It was weird. I mean, it was full Jekyll Hyde because Jordan Love was atrocious in the first half
Starting point is 00:12:42 and then was very good in the second half he was he was definitely uh much better but on the course of the season I feel like the sample is large enough now to like he's had a couple amazing plays on the this season Jordan Love has um done some really good stuff but he is so incredibly inconsistent with with that that there's just too much. When 75% of what you're doing is bad and 25% is great, you can't be good enough in the 25% to make up for the majority of the time sucking. He was so bad in the first half and yet ended 20 of 26. So that's 77% completion percentage.
Starting point is 00:13:26 228 yards, 8.8 yards per attempt. One touchdown. And they handled the ramps. That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Studs of the Week. Presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube and YouTube TV. Real quick, I want to go back to what you said. They handled the Rams.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I just want all credit to be given to Brett Rippin Farts because Brett Rippin was one of the handful of guys this week that were so beyond not NFL quarterbacks that it was like, you don't need to watch this game. You can't do anything. Brett Rippon was atrocious. Clayton Toon was worse. I mean, it was a problem this weekend,
Starting point is 00:14:22 which is why we're in the studs now. The studs across all positions are just the Texans because it wasn't a huge week for most people. What a game. Yeah, so we start at the top. C.J. Stroud, 470 passing yards. That is the rookie record. Five touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:14:43 He is currently on pace for 4,800 yards and 30 passing touchdowns. Goodness gracious, where are you with C.J. Stroud? I'm in love. I mean, we said this super early on in the season. We talked about like, okay, we're calling it now. It's official. He's really, really the real deal. He's good. He's really, really the real deal. He's good.
Starting point is 00:15:05 He's going to be great. For fantasy purposes, I'm still much cooler on him than a superstar fantasy asset because I think he's going to be a pocket passer. And obviously, you can stay in the pocket and put up 40 fantasy points like he did. I believe this is the highest fantasy game for a rookie. Maybe of all time. It has to be. I think it's of all time.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I know it's more than anything Cam did, and Newton had some crazy great games his rookie season. Maybe because of rushing. Yeah, but goodness. Usually, though, you're not going to throw for 470 yards and five passing touchdowns when you're in the pocket. You're going to have a really, really solid good career from C.J. Stroud, but he doesn't add enough on the ground to excite me
Starting point is 00:16:00 for him being a stud future fantasy option. I understand. If you didn't see the Texans game, it was unbelievable. Just a back and forth. Both teams' offenses were absolutely doing work. You had an emergency kicker from the Texans, Darre Agumbawale. Shout out on the puns. There was Daria Boom Boom
Starting point is 00:16:29 Gumbawale. Nice. I mean, we've heard that name. His name has come up in the past as like a running back who got a call up because of injuries in front of him. A pass catching running back. And the kicker was hurt and he had to go-catching runner back. And the kid was hurt, and he
Starting point is 00:16:45 had to go in, and he had to kick. And he kicked a 29-yard field goal that put them up. It put them up. And it was like, oh, well, this game is done. But then the Buccaneers went
Starting point is 00:16:59 all the way down the field, and they scored, and there was 40 seconds left. Yeah, so this game has done the Bucs one. And the Texans need a touchdown. No timeouts. And the Texas need a touchdown. No timeouts.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And then Tank Dell and CJ Stroud. It was an absolute incredible comeback. I really recommend if you have not seen the highlights from it, go watch. It's a good time. That might have been the game of the year. Between two teams with losing records, it was still absolutely unbelievable. And he is definitely the real deal so Jay we do have an update in four point passing touchdowns that was the highest fantasy output by a rookie quarterback
Starting point is 00:17:35 barely beating out Josh Allen okay well and that means in six point it certainly is because he had you know right five passing touchdowns so this is the best fantasy performance in a single game for a rookie of all time. That's amazing. Dak Prescott, 374, three passing touchdowns. Some unfortunate errors at the end of the game. I mean, if you're a Dallas Cowboys fan. But they played great. The Eagles ended up taking the victory.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But Dak has now finished as the QB1, the QB3. He is currently the QB2, and I will be so bold to say the farthest he will fall after tonight would be quarterback three. You don't think Zach Wilson can push him out? I don't. I'm sorry, Zach.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He's been absolutely incredible. It was Andy's start of the week. My second half sleeper. He gets to play the Giants, the Panthers, the Manders, Seattle, Philadelphia. That is the next. That is the stretch run here for Dak Prescott, who they are heating up. He and CeeDee Lamb are doing incredible things. Jalen Hurts. He's just.
Starting point is 00:18:43 He is. Every week. It's so ridiculous. I don't understand how he's so good for fantasy. Um, I'm thoroughly, this is going to sound so weird. Yeah. I I'm, I'm, you know, he was my, my guy last year. I've got him in all my important leagues uh he's like the centerpiece for me and i i love the man like the human he's such a awesome dude and i love him as a football player i say all that to set up to say like i've been watching this year and been so thoroughly unimpressed like i'm watching i'm like it just doesn't seem like he's doing anything special you watch josh allen it's like whoa you watch mahomes like how did he do he seem like he's doing anything special. You watch Josh Allen, and it's like, whoa. You watch Mahomes, you're like, how did he do?
Starting point is 00:19:27 He's just like, ah, let me toss it up here. He's just lunchboxing, man. Yes, he's just lunch. But every single week, going back from week two on, here's his fantasy finishes at quarterback. Four, nine, six, three, two, 5, 5, 3. He's basically not just a quarterback one, but a top half quarterback one every single week no matter what.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And this was against Dallas defense, which is great. And an injury scare. Oh, man. An injury. I was ready to just. You barely even knew what was happening, and you're in our slack, just giving up on fantasy football, giving up on life. I can't lose my man.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But then he was fine. Well, to be fair, it was right before the half, so we just didn't know. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Josh Dobbs, 158-2, 20 of 30. He did have 66 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown as well, which that's exactly what you – I mean, he was playing backyard ball. Yeah, he didn't know.
Starting point is 00:20:31 He doesn't know the plays. He's asking the guys, and he doesn't even know anyone's name. The more – like more and more just kept coming out about how unprepared Joshua Dobbs was to play in a football game, a professional football game. And he went out there and he beat the tar out of Arthur Smith. It was great. Next week he gets the saints. I don't think it's going to go as well.
Starting point is 00:20:57 No. And, and I, you know, nobody was playing Dobbs because he wasn't a starter. And I don't, I don't anticipate that you should be playing Dobbs. No, but the good news is I think we saw enough life.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Like, TJ Hawkinson's going to be fine. I mean, he was still getting the regular TJ Hawkinson treatment. And I think that Addison will be okay. It's definitely a tear down. It's not the Kirk Cousins Addison you had had but we had the questions of are they is addison eliminated like the that was the fear for puka and cooper cup and last and yesterday they were eliminated they were they were gone for fantasy football because brett rip and farts was just not able to get them the ball there There's targets. There's targets going around. Oh, yeah. They were just not. Yeah, Puka and Cooper Cup super
Starting point is 00:21:47 involved in a fake way. Yes, so that's going to be very sketchy moving forward, but the point being I think Addison over the course will be okay. We do have the Justin Jefferson variable of is he coming back?
Starting point is 00:22:04 When's he coming back? I don't think anyone has real information on that just yet. Josh Allen continues to be a stallion. And Joe Burrow, 348-2 against Buffalo. It was just great continuation of Joe Burrow is back. And we had a little bit of his own scare in this one. I mean, he had a hurt fingy, which was very bloody, and then he had to, it was heat or ice. They were doing something to the calf,
Starting point is 00:22:31 the calf that he'd hurt at training camp, and it was, oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, but he was fine. Please don't revert to early season injured Joe Burrow because that was not fun. I really enjoy the Bengals being great. This is four wins in a row now, and this is two big wins in a row now, and this is two big
Starting point is 00:22:46 wins in a row. The San Francisco 49ers, the Buffalo Bills. That's saying, okay, you all counted us out. I counted them out, and the window is open. They are back. Before we get into the running backs, just going to take a quick break. Be right back.
Starting point is 00:23:07 We are back with the running back studs. Jay, you almost played him. You declared you almost played him. I liked him as a play this week. Rashad White, keep targeting the Houston Texans with running backs. It worked out. 20 for 73. I mean, it's not very efficient,
Starting point is 00:23:26 but 20 carries and two rushing touchdowns and four receptions. He is the running back 15 on the year. Gets to take on the Tennessee Titans and San Francisco next. We'll see. Do you trade high? There's just, I don't know, man think I know what no there there are so few
Starting point is 00:23:49 running backs that actually get the volume yeah and get 20 carries and four targets yeah 100% I mean he's a good he's a good asset for fantasy it's just a matter of um are you can you capitalize and get more from him off of a number one overall performance three good weeks in a row people being needy for him you know that's that's just i personally i would see if i could try to trade up to someone that i think is just better you know fair josh jacobs he looked pretty good uh after the house clearing that the that ownership went with 26 for 98 two rushing touchdowns but zero targets we don't like to see that is that did he really have no targets he had no targets um the thing is, this is two games with Aiden O'Connell, and in the previous one, he had a ton of targets.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So this doesn't make me afraid of like, oh, no, the new quarterback is going to not target Josh Jacobs. This was also, you've got to keep in mind, a one-sided just complete beatdown of the hapless Danny DeVito-led Giants. So they didn't need to do much. They just kept running the ball. That's why he had 26 carries. He looked good, and man, is that Raiders locker room.
Starting point is 00:25:18 You talk about the video, the Stogies. Oh, my goodness. The Stogies were sparked up. These guys were celebrating like they just made it into the playoffs. Yeah. This was their Super Bowl. They're so happy. Game one without the former crew got the victory.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Ramondre Stevenson, the plan continues to work. Yeah. He's the running back nine over the last month. That's where we said trade for him at that point. continues to work. Yeah. He's the running back nine over the last month. That's where we said trade for him at that point, and he's been pretty good. Obviously, he was Ramondre Steven sucks last week, but he was very, very good this week. Had a 64-yard run.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Fastest I've seen him look. Six targets. That's fantastic. Gus Edwards. Oh. What him look. Six targets. That's fantastic. Gus Edwards. Oh, what? Yeah. What? Indeed.
Starting point is 00:26:09 If you faced Gus Edwards this week, I am so sorry because it was ridiculous. He had five carries. He had no targets. He had five carries. He had five opportunities in this game. He barely played. He five opportunities in this game barely played he barely played in this game Gus Edwards didn't hit 20 percent of snaps he was in a few times touched the ball five times and is the running back six on the week because multiple touchdowns
Starting point is 00:26:42 will do that he also had a 42 yard run yep it was it's funny because um his teammate Keaton Mitchell rookie sensation maybe I don't know yeah we'll see had 138 rushing yards was excellent neither one of them played this was the Justice Hill show he was in for the vast majority of snaps Justin uh Justice we got Justice Hill. This is a tweet from J.J. Zacharyson. Justice Hill, 48 snaps. Gus Edwards, 14. Keaton Mitchell, 13. Right, but Justice Hill, worthless for fantasy.
Starting point is 00:27:14 The other two, superstars. Oh, unbelievable. Alexander Madison, I mean, he came through for fantasy. Two for 49 and a touchdown through the air. He still does not have a rushing touchdown. The schedule is the same as Dobbs, but we get Saints, but then we get Denver and Chicago, and Cam Akers is no longer an active Minnesota Viking.
Starting point is 00:27:38 It will go back to Madison and Ty Chandler, a.k.a. it will probably go back to Alexander Madison being a workhorse. It's not the offense that you want a workhorse on. I mean, kind of like Rashad White. But, again, not many running backs get a bunch of touches, and he's going to get a lot. Yeah. I mean, he's going to go back to what we saw where he, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:58 there's 73%, 76%, 80% of snaps, 79% of snaps. He's going to be, you know, an opportunity volume play on a weekly basis. If there's a good matchup, you play him. If there's a bad matchup, you still might have to play him. Yeah. Aaron Jones, are we back? Maybe. 57% of the snaps, 20 carries, 73 yards, and a rushing touchdown,
Starting point is 00:28:21 and six targets. Maybe we're back. I would say we are. I would say we are back. His utilization looked like pre-injury utilization. And he didn't appear slow or limited in any way. So I'm going to say we're back. But we're definitely back with this next player.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yes. Jonathan Taylor. It finally happened. 18 for 47. That's not that great. But then we had five for 22 and a score through the air. 60% of the snaps. Moss, 23%.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Just seven opportunities for Zach Moss as the invincibility superstar ran off. Yeah, it was actually Jonathan Taylor was actually up to 74% of the snaps. Yeah, so whatever they're saying, whatever, you know, wink, wink, nod, nod. What happened last week, I refuse to believe them because they were giving him basically 70 plus percent of snaps last week and he was dominating something happened are you saying about the second half the the like the hit in the legs gets up starts doing as he said toe lifts right just just right in the middle of football game like you know my calves i gotta get a pump i gotta get a workout in my calves are looking a little small in the pants of the football game, you know, my calves, I got to get a pump. I got to get a workout in.
Starting point is 00:29:46 My calves are looking a little small in the pants right now. I got to pump them up. Well, just like he's done his whole career. While playing football games, he always does that. Wait, no, he's never, ever, ever done that. And so, yeah, so I think something happened at the end of the previous game that made them just limit his utilization the rest of that game, and that's why we saw Moss. Moss utilization the rest of that game and that's
Starting point is 00:30:05 why we saw Moss. Moss was 23% of snaps and at this point going forward it should be the Jonathan Taylor show. Joe Mixon had himself a nice fantasy day he's we're back at that he is a workhorse for a high-powered offense granted his touchdown well they have the they were doing everything they could to get Joe Burrow a passing touchdown. And unfortunately, Jamar Chase dropped an easy one. If you have Jamar, fortunate for you if you have Joe Mixon. And of course, Derrick Henry, Najee Harris, we already talked about those guys. And T. Higgins had. Oh, T., yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:41 He should have had a touchdown. Right. He stepped out of bounds a little bit. We'll talk about him in just a moment. But Tank Dell, Noah Brown, Nico Collins. Man, Nico had that early touchdown, and I felt like I did it. I nailed it. Got the Nico star of the week.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I am a wizard, and I had the wrong Houston Texan. It worked out. You had the third best Houston Texan, who, keep in mind, is a wide receiver one right now on the week. Right. Three wide receivers as wide receiver ones. Man, CJ Stroud was just on fire. He was incredible.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Tank Dell, 11 targets, 6 for 114. Noah Brown, and a shout-out to the Borgogon and Matthew Betts working the DFS past. Noah Brown was listed this week as a dart throw. Hope you threw that dart into some tourneys. Kyle even told me, uh, when, when I was talking to the, uh, you know, our lineups and stuff, he mentioned, he was like, Hey, Noah Brown's a good start this week. I was like, eh. He said, shut up, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Shut up, Kyle. I'll do what I want. Know your place. Shut your mouth. Yeah, he was. But he did know what he was talking about. CeeDee Lamb, holy crap, man, 16 targets, 11 for 191. We didn't get a touchdown, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah, but he looks unstoppable right now. But now we are the last three games. I mean, very much coincides with Dak's ascension. But three weeks ago, it was 7 for 117, 12 for 158, 11 for 191. Are we getting 200 yards next week, it's it's been ascending um I do not think so because I don't think you're going to need to throw the ball a ton against the New York Giants that's lame yeah you just hope for an early touchdown but do you remember when earlier we were talking about how nice Dak's upcoming schedule was yeah same schedule oh for CD he
Starting point is 00:32:42 has the same one that's good i thought they might have conflicting schedules so that's real helpful amari cooper deshaun watson was back ish uh and it turned into a great day for amari cooper 5 for 30 139 and one touchdown one one touchdown that we were trying to figure out how we'd need to this should not be allowed. It should not be allowed. The refs should have thrown a flag on that play and said, illegal, stupid, that we need to replay that down. It should not count. If you have not seen this touchdown, it shouldn't count.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's not fair. Deshaun Watson throws a terrible ball into the helmet of his own player. Just awful pass. Are we sure this wasn't an intentional trick shot? Like the old Michael Jordan McDonald's commercials. Yeah, off the helmet. Yeah. 20 feet in the air.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Nothing but Cooper. Yeah. So he threw the ball at his own player's helmet. It ricocheted off, flew to the end zone, and landed in Amari Cooper's hands. And it counts. Stephon Diggs, 6-for-86-1, got the late touchdown last night, chilling at the wide receiver three on the season. Deontay.
Starting point is 00:33:59 That was awful. What's that? That touchdown was awful. Why? For us, Mike. Oh. For us mike oh for our champ team and we lost to kyle which we were beating him the whole time the only thing that could not happen for us to lose is a digs touchdown because he had the stack i will tell you after tonight if it's terrible because the most important league is still league league of record currently. And I needed that touchdown real bad.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Real, real, real bad. If Herbert goes off tonight and I lose that one and in Dino Jr., then I will join you and say it was real stupid. Deontay Johnson, incredible game. A.J. Brown is just nonstop now, 7 for 66 and a touchdown. Devontae Smith. Oh, the streak is over. Which streak?
Starting point is 00:34:47 No more 125-yard games for A.J. Brown. Oh, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, he's still dominant. What a loser. They're heading into the bye week. Devontae Smith, if I could get him on my roster right now, I would really be trying to do that. Yeah, and on a bye week, a lot of times you can get someone for cheaper.
Starting point is 00:35:04 T. Higgins, Andy's start of started the week he was back eight for 110 should have had a touchdown but he did not but t higgins is back he gets houston baltimore pittsburgh johan dotson where is johan dotson back this is a redemption tour for a lot of players right now. Yeah, no, I think so. Is it possible? Yeah, because the last three games. As long as Samuel was out?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Well, it happened before Samuel was out. The last three games, eight targets, ten targets, eight targets. That's incredible utilization. So whatever happened, you know, he had one target the week prior to that. They are involving him more. And I don't think we ever thought Jahan Dotson isn't a good football player. Correct. So it's just a matter of why aren't you using him? Now they're using him. Their defense is willfully worse. They traded away some of their defensive line.
Starting point is 00:36:09 They are now actively playing for the future. So I think that, yeah, they're going to try to make sure that the young guys on this team are built up for success for the future. I'm absolutely back. The last three games right now, he's on pace for 1,200 yards, 147 targets, basically what we hoped coming into the season. NBA Jam Rules has him heating up, and he gets to take on the Seahawks next week. So he might be on fire by the end of that. Chris Olave. We did it.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Hey. We did it. Hey, eight targets. Six for 46 and one, probably a touchdown. He got the touchdown. I'm sure he had a crap ton of air yards that he didn't convert because this is what happens. But we got the touchdown. Gets Minnesota next week.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Then a bye week. Then Atlanta. Let's get rolling. Derek Carr. Chris Olave. Let's get rolling. At the tight end position the doctor. Oh man. Perhaps last week against Carolina was simply a blip
Starting point is 00:37:05 because we had 11 targets, 10 for 130 and a touchdown. That will not be prescriptive, that level of usage. But you now have – It kind of is. Well, I'm saying the 11 targets because they were in a shootout. Right. But him being a featured target – I mean, week five he had
Starting point is 00:37:25 10 targets seven targets week six then they had their bye week he is a an integral part of this offense and it was nice to see obviously the shootout thing is true but it was nice to see with Tank Dell back that he can still coexist I mean obviously that 130 yards and a touchdown for a tight end is is incredible even the down week against Carolina, it was at 21% of the targets. So over the past month of games for them, he has seen 28% of CJ shrouds targets. You know, I mean, I was a big doubter that it would keep going, but at this point you have to be bought in. You've got to be bought in let me ask you because I think that these two players are similar archetypes one is a replacement of the other
Starting point is 00:38:12 but Dalton Schultz uh versus Jake Ferguson his replacement in Dallas right who has looked like him and Dak are starting to connect more and more. He's becoming a really important target. I mean, he had 10 targets last night, 7 for 91 and a touchdown. A great game for him. He's super involved around the red zone. Which player would you rather have going forward? I'd rather have Ferguson. Okay. I think I would as well.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It's still there. The Cowboys schedule, I think they're going to keep putting up points through the air. Cole Komet? Cole Kamo? Dude, he was awesome. The secret agent man loves Cole Komet. But, I mean, there was one of his touchdowns. Just head-topped.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I mean, he just outmanned that other guy on a pass that shouldn't have been thrown and said, I'll take this touchdown. And I really enjoy his little baseball celebration, his little home run. You like that one? I like it. I like that he's got a thing. Kyle, you probably remember. Someone else used to do that.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm sure plenty of people. There was a Kyle, look into this. Someone else had the touchdown celebration of the home run swing. That was a prominent fantasy player. Kate Otten, 6 for 70 and 2. Oh, J.J. Watt used to do it.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Kate Otten had himself a great game. Will it continue? I don't know. Jake Ferguson. We got Fergalicious, baby. Seven for 91 with a touchdown. Ten targets. The connection between him and Dak is it's starting to lock in.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah, I mean, he's the number two weapon in this offense, and that's clear now. Right. It's not Gallup. It's not Brandon Cooks. It's Jake Ferguson. It's just like what we saw from Dalton Schultz last year. So if they're going to have to pass,
Starting point is 00:40:07 then I think Jake Ferguson should have good game. The schoonman almost had a touchdown, Jay. I don't know if you saw that play. I mean, they were inches away from lots more points were the Cowboys. Alfred Morris, thank you. Thank you, Al. That is exactly who I was trying to remember. It was Alfred Morris running back for the Manders.
Starting point is 00:40:26 That was his go-to. Freaking waiver wire superstar. Oh, yeah. That was a great time. Jonu Smith, 5 for 100 and a touchdown. He also had a carry because Arthur Smith got to the goal line and says, you know what I need to do?
Starting point is 00:40:41 A jet sweep with Jonu. It's the perfect it's the perfect play design dude to sit down in the in the week while you're get prepping for the week and go how can I anger these fantasy football managers I got it there is a rushing touchdown so you can't get points for Taylor Heineke a rushing touchdown to Janu, the player who angers people the most. I cannot be convinced otherwise. That play was fully intentional.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Oh, yeah. Fully intentional. Fully intentional that this is, he knows that when he's designing this play up, that fantasy people are going to get big mad. I 100% agree with that. It didn't work. You lost. Yeah. We're really angry at
Starting point is 00:41:30 him today. Taysom Hill, look, man, Andy started the week. He had himself a very fine week, but Taysom Hill 4 for 13 and a touchdown. That was in the receiving game. 11 for 52. Wait, didn't he? I thought he threw a a touchdown i thought he got one to juan this is the he got points from every
Starting point is 00:41:52 possible way he was a tight end as a receiver he was a quarterback in this game and he was a running back in this game i saw someone submit uh for for monday monday uh i'll take some points from here i'll take some points from there I'll take some points from here. I'll take some points from there. I'll take some points from everywhere. That's a good one. Yeah, very well done. Yeah, and then Juwan Johnson sneaks in because he got a touchdown. Just good to see him back on the field.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Mark Andrews, it was ho-hum, but it's 9 for 80. I mean, he's still Mark Andrews. Dalton Kincaid, Jason started the week 10 for 81. He, I mean, he looks. Cincinnati. He looks like he's going to be in a very good spot moving forward. He does. Cincinnati is one of those matchups, though, that you desperately want to target.
Starting point is 00:42:41 They are schedule adjusted the worst against tight ends two of the other worst most the teams you want to target are the Denver Broncos and surprisingly the New York Jets those are great targets for tight ends um will you kindly read me uh Dalton Kincaid's upcoming schedule Dalton Kincaid plays the Denver Broncos, the New York Jets. Oh, fantastic. And the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, I mean, keep rolling him out there right now. And those games are guaranteed to have him on the field
Starting point is 00:43:13 because Dawson Knox can't come back from IR yet. So Kincaid is an awesome play going forward. I'm realizing we made it through the wide receiver part of this. Duds. Are we saying that Gabe Davis just does not have big boy pants anymore? I feel like, personally, we're still in the studs. Wait, we're not to the duds. I don't know what you're thinking. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I was thinking about how good Dalton Cade had done, and then I was thinking of how bad. Yes. So, no, we will dunk on him in just a moment everybody uh luke musgrave freaking jason yeah jason played luke musgrave in our fantasy face-off and i may have had some words for him in the morning making fun of him and i looked really good for the majority of the game and and then Luke scores his first touchdown ever. Yeah, three for 51 and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Again, tight ends are one of those you target certain matchups. The Rams are one of those. Hunter Henry had a touchdown. David Njoku had a touchdown. Yeah, Alvin the Chipmunk started Luke Musgrave against me, and it was very successful. I won this week. Yeah, you did.
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Starting point is 00:44:58 No refunds. All right, let's get into the Gabe Davis section of the show. Pooped in his big boy pants. We're back here with Lamar Jackson, who had a very good game. Oh yeah. Dominated the Seahawks, ran like a gazelle, had some great rushing attempts, 60 rushing yards. That usually gives you a good enough baseline to have a great game, especially when you put up 37 points against Seattle. But it was all rushing. It was all rushing. Touchdowns for Gus had two.
Starting point is 00:45:38 The rookie had one. So it was just – and we've seen this a couple times now. Obviously, when Gus had three rushing touchdowns last week, that's two really, really bad weeks in a row from Lamar for fantasy where he played excellent. Yes. It's frustrating. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:45:56 You just keep playing Lamar. It's very similar. Let me ask you about this guy. So Tua, rough game against Kansas City. Kansas City is a great defense. They are a great team. Only 193 passing yards, one passing touchdown. Tua, we were just talking about quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:46:14 and to me, Tua was in that list of these are the guys I don't care about the matchup. I'm locking them in because the ceiling for Tua is the number one overall quarterback. Yeah. But we've now seen when the Dolphins are playing good teams, good teams are figuring out how to shut down the passing attack. Are you still in with Tua being – he's on a bye week, so there's nothing for that. But then it's the Raiders. But then it's on the road against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Are you still leaving Tua in that must start category I'm definitely leaving okay in the must start category he's he's going to be in my lineup if he's on my team because you're not going to have him with someone better than him I'm not gonna he's not in the category where I'm playing someone off of waivers in a good match well but I'm saying like what if you had Dak? Oh, well, Dak is in that situation right now for me, too. A locked-in starter? Yeah, if you had both of those guys, then I would be playing matchups in a situation like that. I think that's probably rare, but Dak could have been on waivers, so that's a fair counterpoint.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Geno Smith. I mean, the Seahawks were dominated the Seahawks I mean this was a battle of two first place teams in their division and the AFC said boy get out of here you suck I mean Gino's been it did the clock strike midnight for Go smith is he a pumpkin yeah i'm asking you um i'm planning on starting him this next week i've got jalen hertz on by the matchup against washington looks all right yeah we'll give we'll go one more we'll go one more go here with geno smith but it has been very frustrating for all seahawks for fantasy football i mean since week three he hasn't scored 15 fantasy points
Starting point is 00:48:07 as a quarterback. That's awful. Yeah, you've got to play him against Washington. Alvin Kamara. What? How does Alvin Kamara, the way that he's being utilized, how does he possibly end up in this list? But against Chicago, 9 for 26, 4 for 44 through the air.
Starting point is 00:48:26 The other running backs and Taysom Hill, who's not officially a running back, but they got worked in. I think Kendrick Miller got banged up. I can't remember off the top of my head exactly what happened, so maybe we'll report on that later. Hey, look, it's two Seahawks. Kenneth Walker III, pun was submitted. Can you guess what it was, Jason?
Starting point is 00:48:47 I saw a lot of them. Well, I'm saying if you say the full name Kenneth Walker III had a bad game, you would say Kenneth Walker III. Yep. Just making sure we're simpatico here. And Zach Charbonnet, who out-snapped Walker yet again, but neither of these players really got any sort of workload the Seahawks got their butts whooped so hopefully that was just a product of
Starting point is 00:49:12 them getting their butts whooped yes some of the worries about what Kenneth Walker could lose with Charbonnet in the beginning of the season appear to be happening now. And it's interesting because if you watched Pete Carroll's press conference after last week, and he was gushing over Charbonnet, what he talked about was he didn't realize how much they missed Charbonnet until he missed that game in week seven. And so it was like, he likes what he brings to the table. and now all of a sudden you've got him with more snaps two weeks in a row. And while I don't think you can play Charbonnet on his own yet, it does hurt Kenneth Walker. He's losing touches.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah. Bijan Robinson, 11 for 51, 2 for 8 through the air, had the fumble. Arthur Smith seeing Bijan fumble was probably the happiest moment of his season because then he got to bench him. Tony Pollard. Man. Tony Pollard, 12 for 51, five targets, but only three for 12. He did have a goal line touchdown that was called back.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Speculation on whether or not the penalty was the correct call or not, but it still took it away. And Tony Pollard has now gone. A tweet from Ian Harditz, an NFL high 136 consecutive touches without a touchdown. Ridiculous. I mean, it's just his floor is not what you think it should be. Correct.
Starting point is 00:50:43 When you tell me he's playing 77% of the snaps, he's getting the opportunities for a good offense, his floor has to be higher than what it's been. But if you actually look, seven fantasy points, six fantasy points, 14 before the bye, 6.4 fantasy points, 7.5 fantasy points. This is five weeks in a row where he hasn't hit eight fantasy points outside of one game. I mean, I don't know what you do. I know you guys have stayed bullish on him. I've been worried about him.
Starting point is 00:51:22 The matchups coming up appear much, much, much better. So maybe you see him as a trade low candidate at this point, because I don't think it's getting any worse. And the Giants and Carolina and Washington, the next three matchups coming up are all teams you should be able to run on. You should have a big lead in. So, you you know but it's it is worrisome and it's been like if you've got Pollard you've been losing games because yeah Pollard I have a I have a league where I have Lamar Bijan and Tony Pollard I didn't win this week but so let me flip that conversation back then because yes Andy and I have stayed remained bullish on Tony Pollard believing it's going to get better believe that you have remained, remained bullish on Tony Pollard, believing it's going to get better.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Believe that you have remained the most bullish on Bijan, that it's going to get better. Yeah. I mean, another game of disappointing output for Bijan Robinson. Where are you in terms of that? Like, do you still believe of the the ceiling or do you just think that he's a safe-ish player what how do you view him rest of season I view him as he's been so far this season which is he doesn't have a rock star ceiling a top five running back ceiling but you know if you look you know at his just points, he's got a game of 17,
Starting point is 00:52:47 of 19, of 16. His disappointing games recently, 10.8, 10.5, 12.2, that's still fine. It's not what you hoped when you were drafting him in the first round. But but I do think that his his floor is is is higher this was his worst game of the season um but he also from headache gate right right I mean yes a couple weeks ago when he unexpectedly was ill and it wasn't reported and he didn't play in the game um that was his worst game of the season but that's you know you can't blame him for that um this was his actual worst game while he played he lost a fumble and I think that that played a big part obviously you lose fantasy points and you lose the opportunity to score on that drive yada yada yeah it Pollard and Bijan I think are going to be very interesting of the, like, Bichon is a great player.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I think Tony Pollard's a great player too, but Bichon is electric, has a coach who won't give him opportunities. So you have, like, a regression type of a thing where there's a world where he gets more work. And Tony Pollard, like, he's already getting the work, and then there's the regression world where just the touchdowns start coming back to him because Dallas is putting up a whole bunch of points. They happen to be coming through the passing game.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So watching those two in particular I think is going to be fascinating. DeAndre Swift had a down game, 18 for 43. It was against Dallas. I'm just going to move on from that. Zach Moss, we discussed it a little bit, but are you starting Zach Moss next week? No, no way. He got 21% of the snaps. He is now the backup to a superstar.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I think you've got to view him as an insurance back at this point. We were waiting for this to happen. Yes. And we thought it was going to happen last week. That was like the trajectory and then the second half weirdness of what happened last week made us believe, oh, maybe it's just going to be 50%
Starting point is 00:54:54 the rest of the week. We just had a little recalculating. We took an early turn and the GPS is like, no, you weren't supposed to do that. U-turn, go back. So I think he's obviously a wonderfully valuable insurance running back. If something happens to Jonathan Taylor, we already know he's going to be awesome. But he is not in a timeshare.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Isaiah Pacheco, 16 for 66. I traded for Pacheco, so of course the first game I get from him is the first game he hasn't caught a pass all year pretty sweet enjoy his bye week James Cook 55% of the snaps I'm not going to hit the button because Latavius said 45%
Starting point is 00:55:37 and the dump truck is on his way top 24 and only 4 of 9 games for James Cook he's just not getting enough work he's not getting valuable touches the running back room the running back totals for the Buffalo Bills has stayed the same this year as it has been during the Josh Allen tenure which is not very valuable and so if you're splitting up that you want the passing game here. I think that they as a team want to change.
Starting point is 00:56:10 They just can't. They just don't know how. It's not in Josh Allen's blood. Both the Rams, running backs had a down game. Daryl Henderson was 10 for 19. Yeah, Brett Rippin farts, man. I mean, if Matthew Stafford is... So is Henderson almost a full bench?
Starting point is 00:56:30 He's a must, must bench until Matthew Stafford is back. I am benching everybody. I'll bench Cooper Cup for a middling as... Brett Rippin farts was so unbelievably bad. It was just nothing. You couldn't. It would be like if I played quarterback. You can't play Cooper Cup if I'm out there playing quarterback.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I would bench Cooper Cup if you were the starting quarterback for the Rams. Just letting you know. I would do that. And I'd be Rippin' Farts, too. Speaking of farts, Devin Singletary. Come on, man. How do the Texans put up that performance? And Devin Singletary is on the field for 75% of the snaps, and the guy does absolutely nothing. That one felt really bad. 75% of the snaps, 93% of the running back rush attempts, 50% of the running back targets.
Starting point is 00:57:25 It is exactly the type of game you dream of that he's all alone and he's going to get all the opportunity. He just wasn't very good. Jamar Chase, 4 for 41. He still had eight targets and a dropped, egregiously dropped touchdown. Jason, oh no. Jason, how's my touchdown. Jason. Oh, no. Jason, how's my voice? You sound old, Adam.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I played the Colts and I couldn't do anything. Why not? Because I'm old. Oh, so is this the second half? I'm so old. Is this the second half of the season? I'm tired, Jason. You're so tired.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Just let me sleep. You're so tired, buddy. Oh. How are you going to do're so tired, buddy. Oh. How are you going to do against Chicago? It's the end. I see it. That's two downish games for Adam Thielen. I don't consider last week a down.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I mean, down for the fire he was on, but he had eight receptions for 72 yards last week. Where's your concern level? Because I don't view the previous week as an off week, this is one bad week, and one bad week does not change my opinion on him. I'm fully continuing to be in on Adam Thielen until it is a trend. Okay. It should be great against Chicago next week. I mean, it should have been great against the Colts, but it didn a trend. Okay. It should be great against Chicago next week.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I mean, it should have been great against the Colts, but it didn't happen. We'll see if we have a bounce back week. Also, yes. Oh, Adam. Yes? Your quarterback sucks. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:01 You guys made a flat-out mistake. Oh, don't say that. I'm sorry. You guys made a flat-out mistake. Oh, don't say that. You traded up, and you had the chance to take C.J. Stroud. Don't say that. I mean, this week was the most brutal example possible. I did have that thought. I don't want to dunk on Panthers fans. Two pick sixes.
Starting point is 00:59:22 With that game, and I think Bryce Young will be a good quarterback. I absolutely do not. Okay. I think that he can still be a good quarterback. But at this point in the season, it definitely feels really bad. He is – Real bad. He has been so bad it's blown my mind because I feel like he wasn't a horrible college –
Starting point is 00:59:42 There's a reason he was taken number one. But he's been like bad reads like what are you doing what are you thinking he's been bad throws i thought you were supposed to be like super accurate like just missing a guy there was a there was a play this last game where i mean he just the commentator the commentator was like, he goes, whoa. He was shocked at how bad it was. He overthrew this easy. Drops back to pass. Whoa. It was like an easy, you know, pass to the flat.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And he overthrew the guy by like high. No one, no one, Wimby Alma couldn't have jumped up and caught that ball. Sweet basketball reference. I mean, that's why me and Kyle superstar quarterback scouts had CJ Stroud number one. Oh, I did too. Okay. Well then you're in the superstars. Uh, speaking of deleted players, Devante Adams, Howard, like I, I was worried about Aiden O'Connell or where's your worry meter now? Aiden O'Connell looked good to me, good enough to support Devontae Adams. You brought up the fact that you can't really support two guys very easily as a rookie.
Starting point is 01:00:53 And he wasn't even throwing him the ball at the beginning of the game. Yeah, it was all Jacoby Myers. And then, again, this was a 30-6 blowout. So this wasn't a game where... But you still had to get to the 30-6. I mean, he had seven targets. Four for 34. I'm not –
Starting point is 01:01:11 You're still fine? I'm not really worried about Devontae Adams. I mean, this stinks, and this is now a stretch run of – very similar to Tony Pollard, where I don't think Tony Pollard is bad. That's not what I'm saying. It's just been a bad, bad run. I don't think Devontae I'm saying. It's just been a bad, bad ride. I don't think Devontae Adams is bad. It's just been a bad, bad ride going forward.
Starting point is 01:01:31 He's got the Jets next week. So it's like I don't trust Aiden O'Connell against the Jets. That'll be a very interesting start to that decision. Then he's got Miami, who now has Jalen Ramsey. Right. Then he's got Miami, who now has Jalen Ramsey. Right. Then he's got the Chiefs. Okay, so I'm actually super worried. And then he's got a bye week.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I'm super worried. Oh, man. I don't like. Hey, that's why we talk through these things. Yeah. The Rams, wide receivers, gross. The Dolphins, wide receivers, including Tyreek Hill, gross. It was still 10 targets, but eight for 62.
Starting point is 01:02:09 He got shut down. Seahawks wide receivers gross. Oh, okay. We talked about it last week, about no one gets injured and leaves the game and comes back more than Jalen Waddell. But he set his own record for the amount of times that he had to leave with injury, and he's back. It was like 10 times. Yeah, LaShawn McCoy is looking on just so proud of what Jalen Waddell
Starting point is 01:02:35 is accomplishing right now. DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett both stunk. I think JSN led the wide receiver room. I mean, leading the wide receiver room for a game like that is worthless. But I'm just saying, like, this is – The Ravens in Baltimore is a tough place to play, and they just took their lunch money. They just wiped the floor with them.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Zay Flowers, one target, one catch for 11 yards. Again, I mean, you have Gus Edwards and Keaton Mitchell running all over the Seahawks but Zay Flowers is he has entered he he's not a must start type of a player and we started hot and now we're cooling off and it's disappointing here would be yeah more Zay Flowers since week two which is you know almost the entire season he scored 10 fantasy points once yeah it's that's someone that you really can't start yeah i don't think he's like a not a must start i think it's like you can't even don't don't start we could be there speaking of oh the trap that was laid by gabe davis mean, he is the trap, man.
Starting point is 01:03:46 He is the trap. Was Andy talking about that? Was Gabe Davis laying the foliage over the home? This was the trap after last week. Whatever your imagination of that's the thing you want the most in life, that's what Gabe Davis miraged us all into. 12 targets last week. 12 targets. And now in a game where you're behind and playing catch up,
Starting point is 01:04:15 the game script was perfect. The matchup, perfect. The opportunity, right there. Two targets. Josh Allen threw the ball so much. Gabe Davis just disappeared. What happened? He gave everyone a big fat zero is what happened.
Starting point is 01:04:33 We started Gabe Davis over Kareem Hunt. Yeah. And we talked about it beforehand. We're like, which way? And if we go the other way, we win. Yeah. But we lost. Feels bad, man.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Feels bad. Chris Godwin, two for 16. I'm super mad at Gabe Davis. Like, I am super mad at him right now. I'm just sick of it because I've got him everywhere. And I was really loving the ride. I mean, he was consistent. He had a touchdown in like four straight games.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I'm super mad at you, Gabe. Get targets. Can't wait to discuss with you if you should start him next week against the Broncos. Yeah, I will. I will start him next week. You want to know why? Because you probably shouldn't, which means you do.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Ooh. But what if he knows that you shouldn't? I'm just so mad at you. DJ Moore, it was against the Saints with Secret Agent Man, 3 for 44. It's just this is what's going to happen. And then, of course, the incredible 3 for 14 for Travis Kelsey. I mean, the Gabe Davis thing is pretty mind-blowing off of the week that he had. But Travis Kelsey going 3-for-14 makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah. No sense. It was weird. How does this happen? I don't know. I mean, you know, I want to say everyone has downed games, but Kelsey really doesn't. But this is kind of two weeks.
Starting point is 01:06:04 3-for-14. How does this happen? Yeah. Everyone has downed games, but Kelsey really doesn't. But this is kind of two weeks. Three for 14. How does this happen? Yeah, I mean, it's very unfortunate. Now he goes on a bye week. So far, I want to see the gap between Kelsey and Mark Andrews. So it looks like Kelsey is at 111 fantasy points on the season. Mark Andrews is at 104. So they are right next to each other.
Starting point is 01:06:29 So you have to go back to 2021 week 18 against the Denver Broncos to find a target share as putrid as he got this week. Like that's how far back you have to go. How many games? Crazy. But hopefully you were able to pull out a win without Travis Kelsey doing
Starting point is 01:06:49 normal stuff. That is going to do it for today's episode. Tomorrow we will be talking about the waivers. Do you need anything from today's or tonight's game? Jay, are you done? I'm done. I need 10 points combined from
Starting point is 01:07:07 eckler and breeze hall okay all right i needed 10 points combined from eckler breeze hall and gabe davis and you still and i still need 10 points combined from breeze hall and austin well i need justin herbert to just be okay tonight and not be great. Okay. Or I'll be sad. That's going to do it. We'll see you all tomorrow. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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