Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast - WR Rankings Countdown: 20-11 + Keenan's Back! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/6

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Fantasy Football show for Aug 6, 2025. Wide receiver rankings! How will Ladd McConkey be impacted by Keenan Allen signing? Can DK Metcalf be a fantasy football difference maker on the Steelers? Find out which WRs Andy, Mike, and Jason disagree on the most for 2025 fantasy football drafts! Plus, lots of NFL News including an official Jordan Addison suspension. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.2025 ULTIMATE DRAFT KIT + Draft Analyzer available now at UltimateDraftKit.com(00:00) Intro(05:26) NFL News(20:00) WR Rankings 20-11(22:11) Jameson Williams (28:02) Davante Adams(31:19) Garrett Wilson(36:03) DK Metcalf(41:54) Ladd McConkey(47:00) Tyreek Hill(49:23) Mike Evans(53:22) Jaxon Smith-Njigba(54:15) Marvin Harrison Jr.(59:10) Tee HigginsConnect with the show:Subscribe on YouTubeVisit us on the WebSupport the ShowFollow on XFollow on InstagramJoin our Discord

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What are you seeing? Who's that player you got over by you, Mike? Devon Devanta Smith? Yeah, you got Devanta Smith over there. You got Patrick Mahomes over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The desk looks good. And then I'm like, then there's like, Julio Jones.

Julio Jones is over here. Hey. Just hanging out. Respect Julio Jones. Yeah. I have to imagine that was put there because today is Kyle's Day. And an all-time favorite, Julio Jones. Yeah, he's a Falcons guy.

He's a Falcons guy, but he's also a Keenan. We don't have a Keenan figure? No, I don't know if they made any of those. I took all of them with me. Too many slots snaps. But yes, I just noticed the vintage out here today in Julio Jones. He was very special for fantasy football. Remember how many weeks we'd be like talking about him limping off the field?

But then like how many games do you play? Yeah, all of them. Yeah, I mean, if he played 16 games, then we talked about it about 16 times. It was like LaShawn McCoy, but the. So wide receiver version. Yeah. But then he will go back in and Dominate. Oh, man.

I loved Julio Jones. He was so good. He was so good. We have a fun show for you today. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for following the podcast and following along this season. Shout out to the Foot clan, supporting us over at join the foot.com. We have a wide receiver rankings episode today.

So we'll talk through probably about 10 of these guys as we count it down to our overall top 10 wide receivers. We've got news to talk about. Jason, you're in the double Navy over there. You're looking good. How are you doing? I'm feeling great. It's a great morning to talk football and so many exciting things happening in the news. You talked about Keenan?

Yeah. I think it really changes a lot for that team. It's so good from a maybe not. Keenan and I went back to the Chargers, everybody. Right. Yeah, we'll talk about it deeper. For that team. But for the Chargers.

I think it is really great news. Fantasy might actually muddy some waters for most. Yeah, outside of your love or a growing love for maybe Justin Herbert. Yeah, Herbert, Hampton, I think, get a little lift there, but obviously the wide receiver core, lad, huge, my love for Trey Harris and their other rookie is, but man, that offense is going to be hard to stop. That division is a very interesting one, because I feel very. very similarly about Denver.

Like, I feel so positively about them, and the Kansas City is just always there, and there's a quarterback in Las Vegas now. It'll be fun. So we're talking wide receivers for the main event on today's episode. We'll jump in the mailbag if we have some time. A reminder of the ultimate draft kit available with the new value scout tool, which is available to everybody, whether it's UDK, UDK Plus. If you do have the UDK Plus, you get the draft analyzer as well.

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News and notes from Around the League, presented by Progressive Insurance. Keenan Allen is back, reuniting with the charges of one-year deal worth up to $8.5 million. He is currently number 18 on the all-time receptions list. 96 catches behind being top 10. 96 catch, okay. Yeah, I don't know if 96 is in the cards this year, but it's not impossible. It also doesn't matter. Like, he's going to get past.

You know, when you finish at 10, it's neat to say, like, when I retired, but you're not staying there. I would be very happy to say that, though, to get into that top two. He would have a good chance. I mean, he's going to be battling out with Hopkins. Hopkins is a couple spots about it. Oh, he's going to pass Hopkins. And he will surpass the other way. So, yeah, the second most receptions per game in NFL history,

he joins a Chargers team that really, I feel like, needed a Keenan Allen, a stabilizing force in the wide receiver room. We all love Ladd McConkey, but it's also a tall task to kind of like ask Ladd McConkey to be kind of everything for your, for your offense, and then depend upon Quge and a couple of rookies with Trey Harris. And, you know, you've got-Lamber Smith. Yeah, Lamber Smith, and then you have, you know, you got Disley and Conklin. They're just a well-rounded offense where, you know,

I have such a trust in Herbert in finding the right guy. And last year, Keenan Allen was very good in Chicago. Yeah, Keen was surprisingly good in Chicago with Caleb Williams, who had a disappointing season. And the year prior, when he was a charger, he was, you know, unbelievably good. For fantasy, he was great with Herbert. He's obviously got that rapport. The question is going to be who's in the slot.

You know, Keenan played a little bit more outside last year than what you would imagine. Ladd has been predominantly slot, but when Keenan was a charger, he was predominantly sloth. So I think they can move pieces around, but they have, I mean, Keenan is where you want him to be, will catch what you throw him in the ball, just like Ladd-McConkie. It's just reliable pass catchers here. And then Quentin Johnston, who is not a reliable pass catcher, but he can certainly run down the field while the defense worries about their two good wide receivers. Yeah, it's exciting for Herbert, for sure.

He did move up in my rankings quite a bit. Keenan Allen? Keenan moved up quite a bit. He was very low in my rankings, having no team. But, yeah, I think Keenan Allen, I have him down for the second most targets on the team. I think he's going to be a relevant fantasy asset this year. Jordan Addison officially suspended three games. It was the expectation.

Two or three games, we got the official word. We still don't have the official word on Rashi Rice. But it shows that it's coming soon. this time of year. Do you want to make a Rashi Rice prediction here on the show? Okay, six for you, Mike. Do you have a prediction for Rashi Rice? Yeah, I'm going to go with six.

I think it might start eight and then go to six. I think by the time we get around to the season, it'll be six. I think it might start 50. Whoa. It's starting at eight and is going to 12. I'm going to say, how dare you try and fight this suspension? I want to see an appeal go up. Yeah, you know what?

You were right. We were wrong. We didn't do enough. yeah like if you appeal certain things that you definitely admitted to doing that's like nodded that's like going to the parole board and being like I'm innocent dude we were trying to be nice yeah how dare you all right what else oh look more and more matthew stafford news we it's it's loud enough now for you to be attention look he's dealing with an aggravated disc in his back he had to receive an epidural and that is not good

he has been managing it they say he is going to be back for week one they say this is all management right like that's the message going out there but this is this is a really significant situation what the camera just you were you were you were talking you were having a great eloquent point about matthews taverns back and then the stupid deucers put jason on the all of a sudden i'm on the camera and i was like what the hell am i doing i i 100% fat fingered that button, man. I was like, Andy's riffing, man. I'm so going to just let him do this. This is why

this is why George Kittle was right. Yeah, George Kittle. George Kittle is very upset right now and we have some smelling salts in the building and I'm going to toss one over to Josh because we got to get on board here. Let me just. So the NFL came out. The NFL came out and actually

banned smelling salts. Which I got Papa Josh. I saw it. I was like, what NFL, what are we doing? Go ahead, Josh. There were, oh, Josh's, oh, whoa, oh, my gosh. You're not supposed to smell them that. I deserve that, man.

Holy moly, if you go to YouTube, that's why they banned it. You went hardcore after that thing. Your eyes are going to bleed out of your ears. Kiddle would be very proud of you. Right. The lightning, brother, there was more, there was more follow up on it, and they were talking about I mean some other concerns but also they were saying at least hiding and under is it concussion related oh that makes perfect being able to mask a concussion because you snap out of it and as one I'm very pro brain health and people keeping their brains as healthy as we

possibly can with this gladiator sport that they play big brain I was like yeah okay NFL you you win this time so George Kittle said he he wanted to to, he considered retirement when this came through because he uses smelling salts before every single drive. That can't be good for you. No, it cannot. Did you just see Papa Josh and what happened in his brain? Have you seen interviews with George Kittle?

He does seem like a man that is on something. He seems like a man who's had a lot of smelling salts. All right. And he's a good time. Papa Josh is awake and we never need him more away. What happened? Can I circle back here? Yeah, yeah, please.

Before the camera went off of me mid-Matthew Stafford conversation. aggravated disc management issue the risk rating is very high and i i you know i expected big things from the rams offense yeah with matthew stafford it gets really really difficult if you take him off the field oh for pukua and devante adams because both of those guys are target monsters both of those guys are go-to receivers and you put them both in an offense that's led by Jimmy Garoppolo. Let me give you a hypothetical. Let's say you run a simulation and let's say you put Jimmy Garapolo

as Devante Adams quarterback. I'm trying to run the simulation. I'm trying to picture how that could look. Yeah, just try to picture maybe. I'm going to go back to a sample. Go to like, uh, let's just put them on a team randomly, like the Raiders. Yeah. How did that go?

Uh, there is a very particular clip of Devante Adams on the sideline using uh, words, not say for word, work words and saying, I need to get out of here. And then you add, because of the murder balls. Because I'm getting destroyed on every play. Yeah, there, there is an execution of the offense that Stafford can do that Jimmy Grappalo won't be able to do in my opinion. Now, he might be fine, but I'm okay with

Jimmy for a game or two, but this is just, this is now at the point where, and Matthew Stafford, he has proven it time and time again. He'll play through pain. He is very, very tough and we'll lay through and Matthew Stafford were working together. Yeah, he's going to find him in the blue tent. But it's, this is really troubling

that you might have a ticking time bomb for, and Pooka's a, what, Pook is a first round. Pooka is a head of Ammon Ra, neighbors, Collins, Brian Thomas, London, A.J. Brown. It's scary. I would not want him over those guys

if I had the fear. I love Puka so much. And I like Puka with Stafford more than those players, but today I actually moved, I, you know, usually I just do the risk rating and make sure that you know what you're getting into. Right. But I, I actually artificially moved Pooka down a few spots. I wanted him be behind Malik Neighbors and Nico Collins because I do think he carries risk that isn't his fault. But if I was sitting there and I can choose Malik neighbors, like if Malik neighbor's quarterback goes down, he might get better. If James

comes in, great. Who is the number two by the way? He is. Yeah. Jackson Dart, the number three on the unofficial dub chart. So, yeah, I mean, there's worry. Stafford playing 17 this year feels like a tall task. Not that it can't happen, not that Stafford won't be there week one, you know, baby ready with his epidural. But, you know, I was trying to figure out what you meant, but now I get it. That's the only time I've ever seen someone get an epidural. That's to have a baby. And I will tell you what you can't do after you have an epidural. That would be He played football. Yeah, I would walk.

Like, I don't know. Look, it is concerning. He has played through pain, and this could be one of those things where, look, if he's, if he's healthy and active, you get a deal on Puka or Devante Adams. But it's just not what you want to hear this time of year. Speaking of 17 games being unlikely, Kenneth Walker. How dare you? Return to practice.

I told you he was resting. Three days. He is rested up and ready to practice. How many games do you think he'll rest this year? I think he will rest two to three games I love it I love it

when you are number one enforced miss tackles and your offensive line has made you like almost dead last in yards before contact you got to take a few rest I mean to say for a three

it's exhausting for a 3.7 yards per carry with that many broken tackles he's doing so much running for so little yardage it is it is he is a fascinating case because I've gone complete 180 on him I came into this offseason ready to be so so in on Kenneth Walker and take the chance take the risk this year because

when he's out there he is a phenomenal fantasy player phenomenal running back he's he is really good and I have gotten to the point where I'm like I'm letting other people like I well then I will happily scoop him up you will scoop him up right behind there the offensive line for Seattle has at least some improvements. And I think that the, the, the, the, uh, the Coobes running system really helps a, an offensive line that maybe not be the strongest. Get that scheme going. Maybe.

Schemes make dreams. Um, is that what they say, Jake? Yeah, that's what Coobes says. Tyreeke Hill absent from today's practice due to an undisclosed injury. So there you go. Darren Waller, still a week away from. practicing. Good Lord, Darren Waller. What was he doing? He's ramping up. He's been ramping up for a month. They said they're eager to see him. Exactly. At first, it was he has stayed in such

great shape. No, he has not. And then it's like, he can't play football. He's not ready. It is definitely there's a difference between being an excellent shape and being in football shape. But this is, this feels like a really long time for a player. And then they were bringing in Noah Fant. after they traded for Darren Waller and it's like we should take a look at no offense too at Colcomette

left practice early on Tuesday but avoided serious injury and we did get some preseason information on starter situation Shador Sanders is going to start for the Browns Anthony Richard Simmel which I read a comment that said he's starting week one

despite not having reps with the ones wonderful like that is is he playing with other ones in that game i don't know or is it just a bunch of the people he's been playing with it's just that's a wild situation cam ward will uh cam ward and the starters will play in every preseason game that's smart i think yeah the the news on preseason and starters being involved is it's great it look we've been you know the way it used to be was get your get your starters the heck out of preseason And we don't want an injury for a meaningless football game.

But we have, I think we've now have enough data of the last few years of, like, of offenses starting so slow. See the Bengals. Yeah, the Bengals are going to play some of their starters at least for a series or two. And the Cardinals said that they were going to play some starters. The Raiders said they were going to play starters. You can get hurt. Like, we have all the clips. We watch training camp.

Yeah. Like players are flying around. You watch the family night games, the offensive defensive matchups. They're flying around, tackling each other, going up. You know, players are going to get hurt. I would rather practice a little bit out there on the field and get games speed up. I've changed over. I want some preseason.

We might actually enjoy week one a little bit more, too. I think it does depend on the team. You know, like if you've got, you know. Matthew Stafford should not play. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, a 17-year vet who's worked in the system, has a Super Bowl under that system. You know what I mean?

Like, Mahomes, they don't need to put them out there. I mean, I'm not saying whether they will or won't. But, you know, if you've got the, like the Bengals, who every single year start so slow, they don't play any other starters in the preseason, and then they start, you know, 0 and 2, 2 and 4 every year. It's like maybe, maybe just act like the preseason is season and then start 0 and 2 in the preseason and then win when the season starts. Now, obviously, we'll completely take back everything we said of anybody important. First injury, it all goes on. What a bunch of idiots. Anthony Richardson starting the first

preseason game. Daniel Jones will start the second preseason game. So that's the plan for the Colts and that is the rest of the news and notes. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com, progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations.

Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. We'll take a break and we'll start counting down the whiteouts. all right we are looking at the wide receiver 20 down to probably 11 today we'll see where we get and then we'll jump into the top 10 tomorrow these are more interesting sometimes because more debate more variance in rankings as opposed to more consensus with the top guys looking at the half ppr rankings today it's probably a good time jason to remind people about the tiered rankings and the importance of tier-based drafting because, you know,

there are gaps between groups of wide receivers that really matter when you're drafting. Yeah, for sure. When we do our rankings, sometimes it's as simple as if you ended up giving someone a half touchdown more, they go up four or five spots. They're really in a group of players that all have a similar range of outcomes. But when you draft just based on rankings, you can get really. wrong conclusions when you lose value. Yeah, when you need to take a player at a certain position.

So if you've got the ultimate draft kit, we break everything down into tiers within each position. So you know, like, okay, we feel like, you know, these two players. Sorry, I was just going to say, like, the gap between like wider tier 20 and 21 last year was over two points per game. There are gaps like that that we believe, you know, you want to be drafting a guy towards the back of a tier, not necessarily starting the next group.

Yeah, you don't want to take the second guy out of a tier. When you start a tier, you're just not getting the value there. Because if you were to grab one a round or two later that are in that same tier, and then instead with that first pick have gone to the last guy at a running back tier that is about to dry up, you just end up with a far stronger roster. I was told I didn't hit this button. wide receivers oh thank god thank you i also recognized that i didn't hit that button i wasn't just told i also knew that well it sometimes you forget totally did it on purpose all right number

20 on our rankings jameson williams uh it is certainly my ranking that is pulling them up into our top 20 i mean me and me and jay are not i mean i guess you guys you're above you're above adp but we are not uh that far behind the rank of No, I think a good thing to do. People have heard me talk about James this off season. They know I'm a fan. I think it might be important as I lay some of these things out just to get specifically an opinion from you guys

on what might go wrong for Jameson Williams this year because, you know, I'm very excited the potential, the 24-year-old speedster in this offense that has kind of committed to being more of a downfield offense this year. And you ask yourself, well, you know, Jared Goff didn't do that. He was the third lowest percentage of attempts, 20 plus yards down the field. What does that mean?

Well, he was good when he did it. That was the thing. He was third in fantasy points per dropback when he did throw it down the field. I can think of a couple years ago when I made Mike Evans a my guy. It was part of that was on the basis of the success rate of Baker Mayfield throwing the ball down the field. He was very effective. Speaking of Jared Goff, when he did do that, they've talked about, Jameson Williams, and the fact that basically they've locked him in to a couple of spots,

which has allowed him to establish a better route tree and become more integrated in the offense. And we have spent offseason after off season after off season of more critical comments from the head coach and offensive coordinators. Those are not present anymore. And so I think a breakout is in store. But talk to me a little bit about maybe the opposite perspective, a devil's advocate approach. Sure. I would start with, I've mentioned some of the ADP studies I've been working on of, you know, part of my concern with JSN is guys that break out in year two, we steam their ADP up, and then they actually become like a 50-50 of, well, will they return value on their, where you took them, with the expectation for them to score. Meanwhile, guys that break out in year three, they have them at ADP returning. value to you it's a it's a really really high hit rate and i think that's a feather in the jameson williams cap exactly uh so that's where i wanted to start and point that out of of the journey of

jameson williams is interesting i mean you had he was coming into the the draft hurt you know he had the torn ACL he ends up only playing six games it's a tough season then you have the next year and you have the gambling suspension and and then year three he finishes as a as a a top 20 wide receiver. So based off his draft, his draft pedigree and the ADP study, he becomes very, very interesting to me. And I'm in. But if you want me to play devil's advocate, that would be, I think it's pretty easy to do of the variables are here. Number one, Ben Johnson is gone, the offensive coordinator. That is, we've seen that be huge hits for teams. You know, sometimes it doesn't matter. And they just continue rolling on,

but we've also seen times where the offense becomes, you see the Philadelphia Eagles. They changed off, they had to change office and coordinators. They did not keep rolling. And that offensive coordinator did not stick around to Philadelphia for very long. Then on top of that, their defense was just so beat up and depleted that they had to score more points. And this is a high T team.

And then combine that with, you know, while the reviews on Jameson over the over camp and everything have been glowing, there was weird buzz around the draft of, is James going to get traded? Then they spend not only a third round pick on on Isaac Tesla. They traded two future thirds to go spend a third round on a player who would be a same archetype of downfield,

stretch the field and take the top off. That would be what could go wrong for James and Williams to me. Yeah, there are definite ways it can go wrong. But I'm in on Jameson Williams. This is a guy who is being drafted as the wide receiver 27. He finished last year as the wide receiver 18, and he missed two games. So this is, I think right now you're drafting him at what his floor is. But he is one of the players that does have breakout potential.

He's, you know, one of those drafted to be great guys coming out of college was supposed to be a superstar. star. And we had a lot of reports even kind of behind the scenes of him being a little bit of a knucklehead, maybe worried about work ethic. And then those those came through in those first few years with him. Yeah, they did. So it all matched. And at that point, it seemed like I don't know that this very talented players ever going to get it together. But it seems like he's got it together. And the fact that the coaching staff is saying good things and they're locking them in and they've figured out how to use them, there is breakout potential with Jameson Williams. And if he just goes out and has a ho-hum season,

he's probably still better than the wide receiver 27 where he's being drafted. This is, I guess he's under contract next year, right? Well, yeah, there would be the fifth year option. Yeah, so that would be a club option for next season. Yeah. So that was some of the debate you were talking about with the trade. I'm just trying to think of how, what the motivation level is for Jameson Williams.

Yeah. Because that's oftentimes, like if you look at the historical top-tier guys, I mentioned it the other day. At this age, it's also like with that next contract on the horizon, you know, Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and those guys, when that money is sitting out there and whether it's on Detroit or someplace else, it's always a motivating factor. 24 years old is a great age to grab a breakout wide receiver.

Number 19, Devante Adams of the Los Angeles Rams, 30. Not 24 years old. 32 years old will be 33 soon. I have him the lowest of the three of us. We have them at 19 by consensus. We'll see. We'll see where he is by the end of the day with all the Jared Gough. I'm not sorry, not Jared Gough, Matthew Stafford.

Going back in time a little bit. I actually did already move him down from this because of the Matthew Stafford news. So I've got him at 19. You are still a couple spots lower. Two years, $46 million contract. Last year, thanks to Aaron Rogers, ran way fewer in and dig routes. Had a lot more corner routes with Rogers. You can expect more motion with Los Angeles.

That's one of the things that they do with the receivers. I think we all look to Adams as not quite leading the team in targets. We think Pooka is that guy. But the touchdown potential, boy, that's a variance with Stafford or without. For sure. And so with Stafford, I think he could have a lot of touchdowns. Although Stafford has really not been a touchdown machine over the last few years. Kyron is very greedy.

Kyrin has been very greedy and just got paid. If you look at the second wide receiver next to Puka Nakuwa, you know, last year, Cooper Cup, we look not fondly upon what happened because he disappeared at the end of the season. But if you look at the lead-up to that, and years prior, what the system can do even with a very incredibly heavily targeted Puka Nakua, the first nine games played from Cooper Cup, he missed a couple of games for injury early. he was on pace for 171 targets himself and that's a nine game sample

so this is the opportunity for a lot of volume for Devante Adams is here and the team went out with their transactions and believed look we want to go from Cooper Cup to Devonte Adams we think Cooper Cup has lost X Y or Z and we think Devante Adams has what we're looking

for now this is also the team that went out and paid a big bag of money for Alan Robinson it doesn't mean that all their ideas and scouting is perfect but if they are correct that Devante Adams still has it, and he certainly still looked like he had it last year. The role on this offense is great. And I do love him with Stafford, getting into the end zone. The least amount of touchdowns he scored in the last five years is eight on a season. It was 18, 11, 14, 8, and 8 the last two years. And last year, you saw the first half of the season

when he was not a member of the Jets. I mean, you had finishes outside the top 50 in three of the first four weeks he played with them so you you can see it can go bad he's risky and i think he would be i think the mental side of like if stafford wasn't available and you just decided to get out of a bad situation and go into another jimmy garoppolo i can't even imagine i just think he would just lose i think he might just retire like stafford off the field out for the year and he goes yeah me too i mean i am also out for the year right um the uh the uh what But the Parsons, the, I don't want to be here anymore. Yeah, yeah.

18, his teammate last year, Garrett Wilson, Garrett Wilson of the New York Jets, just signed the big contract. You know, you had the offseason quotes from Aaron Glenn, what he's learning about Garrett Wilson, just give him the ball as much as possible. That's right, Aaron. That really hasn't been an issue for Garrett Wilson ever. Like there's never been a coach that didn't say that

because the target totals 147, 168, 154, I think they're trying to give it to him as much as possible. And it's not going to change this year. They have no one else to throw the ball to. I mean, they lost Conklin. They lost Devante Adams. They, even the rookie replacement. Josh Reynolds.

Exactly. Josh Reynolds is the two. I mean, you know, they bring in Mason who's dealing with. Mason Taylor. Yeah, Mason Taylor, their rookie tight end to replace Tyler Conklin. And now he's dealing with a high ankle sprain. So Garrett Wilson is going to be massively. targeted. I am finding myself

more and more and more in on Garrett Wilson this year. Oh, really? Yeah, when I see, when I'm... Welcome aboard. When I'm at ADP and I'm looking at his name, I'm excited to take him. Now, the view I have on Garrett Wilson is that I think he's a very good wide receiver. I do not believe Garrett Wilson is a great... Like, I don't think he is a Justin Jefferson. I don't think he's

a Jamar Chase. Well, okay. Those are great all capitals. We're just looking for just the first letter. No, I get that. But my point is if you were to switch Garrett Wilson and Jamar Chase on their, you know, respective teams. I don't think Garrett Wilson could do what Jamar Chase does. I don't think any of us would argue that, though, by any stretch. I don't think many people out there would. He would be, he would be better than T. Higgins. Here's the devil's advocate case for Garrett Wilson. We already have the evidence. We already have the evidence that he can be the highest volume, most important, most targeted, wide receiver, and finish outside the top 30.

That's happened. He had 168 target year. He finished at wide receiver 32 with three touchdowns. He scored seven times last year. Thank you, Aaron Rogers. You're going to need to score like five plus times in this offense. Otherwise, you will be disappointed in the fantasy finish. I would agree with that. And if you want to project touchdowns for him this year, Justin Fields does not project to be as good as Aaron Rogers at that specifically. And the offense projects to be worse than it was last year without Devante Adams.

And so maybe the touchdowns aren't going to be there for him. I've got him projected for six touchdowns this season, which I think is a good number, but that is sadly that feels like an optimistic outcome. There's been some negative press around

Justin Fields' performance in recent days in King. There has. also I just think he's just been so up and down as a pastor in his career so that'll be an interesting situation to watch but we have them slotted in at 18 yeah we're all hoping for that DJ Moore year I think the what we don't know for sure is you know just what does the Jets offense look like you know they coach Glenn brought his body Tanner over from Detroit so I would imagine they're going to do their best to replicate and duplicate that, which would put him that'll be Danny Tanner from Full House.

From Full House. Yes, perfect. So, I mean, I imagine it will be you know, pieces of that, that type of an offense. So do they try in Ammon Raw the role for Garrett Wilson? We don't know yet. Yeah, I do think that, I mean, there's a reason

he's not in our top 10, right? I mean, we're talking about wide receiver 18 there are lots of questions and there will be lots of targets and we hope that translates really well it could be a value right now his ADP is the wide receiver 15 in the third round I've got him right at wide receiver 15 personally yeah I was going to say I think I have some guys that I might choose over him just on offensive optimism but I get it I think the interesting name to me is is Tyree kill like Tyree kill or Garrett Wilson they're very you know you've got one guy where you've got to have a question about whether he's really lost it. The other guy's obviously up and coming, still young, youthful, the clear one on his team.

But Tyreek has that wide receiver one range of outcomes still. I think that's, you know, if he hasn't lost it, if it was the risk last year, if Tua's got there. But how do you play? And for me, if I'm staring down that decision, I'm going to Garrett Wilson's. Yeah, one of the things, Garrett Wilson's A-DOT has dropped three straight years. so you're not getting that is very opposite of Tyreek Hill on the big plays. D.K. Metcalfe comes in at 17.

Metcalfe, I have ranked the highest of the three of us starting the Aaron Rogers era. I don't know if you guys saw the Aaron Rogers some of the camp stuff from yesterday about... Which the glaring at Roman Wilson? No, I mean, he glares at everybody. I mean, he's had a glare at everybody policy for six years now, but that can't feel good.

No, it was more like how slow he was going through some of these drills. Like he just looked, he just looked really, really slow going through some of these drills. But Matt Kaff, you know, we've talked about him in recent days. When he's over 130 targets, he ends up definitely outpacing his ADP here, which is wide receiver 22. You know, they paid him all that money. He is the alpha. He might be their wide receiver one through three. and then they begin at wide receiver four.

I mean, that's kind of how I look at things. It's been a roller coaster in Seattle. This is a guy that's never quite lived up to the potential, in my opinion. Like, I think physically, speed-wise, this guy should have been a perennial top. Like where he started, Seattle, wide receiver seven, wide receiver 12, second and third season. He should have been. It feels like he should have been a Hall of Fame wide receiver. 100%.

Go get that yellow jacket. So I don't know if it's eating candy all day long. I don't know what it is. I'm pretty sure that's part of it. But, you know, he missed some time last year with an MCL sprain. And here we go. It was very good for Devante Adams to have Aaron Rogers last year. It was good for Garrett Wilson, finishing the top 10 with Aaron Rogers.

You know, I see Metcalf as a value. The thing about Metcalfe is it should work. On paper, it should work. Rogers for how we look at how he played last year. It felt like Aaron Rogers was not good and the Jets were not good. But when Garrett Wilson was the wide receiver won, Garrett Wilson was awesome for fantasy. And then Devante Adams came and took that role.

And then Devante Adams was very good for fantasy football. Pittsburgh made the investment. They said, we're going to take D.K. over George Pickens. They trade draft capital for him. They give him the big bag of money. he's the number one guy for Aaron Rogers it should work the it's just

it's hard to get over for me you know D.K. Metcalf just the last three years being a disappointment from where you drafted him not that wide receiver 18 or 16 is terrible by any stretch but it's disappointing from where you drafted him and then

you have the giant bugaboo in the room of Arthur Smith what does this offense look like Arthur Smith has toyed with our emotions for several years of having what we consider to be elite fantasy football players

then those guys just don't come through like Bijan didn't come through until Arthur was gone Drake London didn't come through until Arthur was gone so I just I have these concerns about where he is going in in uh or I guess the price isn't too bad he's in the fifth that just I have concerns overall with the situation and the profile. It's really hard for me to see how it goes poorly for D.K. Metcalfe.

You know, Matthew Stafford hasn't been a great fantasy asset in years, but he makes wide receivers unbelievable. Aaron Rogers does not have to be a great fantasy asset on his own for him to hyper-target D.K. Metcalfe and have him be fantastic. I mean, the touchdown totals that, you know, we were just talking about that came through for Devante Adams or for Garrett Wilson last year. You know, those came from Aaron Rogers. This is a team where, I mean, D.K. Metcalfe, who is he competing against?

Calvin Austin, Robert Woods? No, he's competing against four tight-in starting on a single play. Roman Wilson, Babin, Scaroni. Who? I mean, there's, it's going to be the D.K. Metcalfe show. He'll have 140 targets, and they will be decent targets. Yeah. And the thing for what I'm talking about with Arthur is, like, if you guys haven't seen, you know,

the heat maps of the types of routes that these guys are running. Like number ones. And look, George Pickens was the number one guy for the Steelers. And you look at how bland and unoriginal the routes were for George Pickens versus other number one wide receivers. It's concerning. Aaron Rogers is never going to accept. I was literally about to say the same thing. That's your coach. That's your offensive coordinator. 100%. This is one of those, you know, he's not dealing with Desmond Ritter, where he can make him do whatever or try to protect you know. Russell Wilson

last year. Yeah, and Hyde Justin Fields. This is, Aaron Rogers is going to go out there and I think maybe in the beginning he's going to give it a shot. See what Arthur's plan is. And then he's going to throw that in the garbage if he doesn't like. It'd be like, all right, D.K., here's what you're actually running. And I understand last

year there were expectations for George Pickens that weren't met, but I I'm with Jason on that one. I do not like. Arthur Smith though if that's important to the equation dude I love Caleb Johnson so much and every time I think about like how much I love Caleb Johnson Arthur's just sitting on my shoulder going number two and and for everything negative that I just said about DKMECF I have him ranked above his ADP so nope you don't get out you don't get out of it sorry I'm just saying that

I guess the price is is acceptable all right we'll take a break and then we get to come back and talk about another player impacted by a recent signing Ladd McConkey comes in at number 16 on our wide receiver rankings Wow, did you guys nerf him that much or did you just have him that low No, no, this was moved down from the... Mike, or not Mike, Jason had him moved a lot more. I had him at 16 before the move. He's at 18 for me after the move with Keenan Allen, and that is...

Look, McConkey's awesome. Yeah, he's a great player. The offense, though, and the priority of this team is going to be to run the football, to run it well, to be willing to throw it to whoever's open, and there's more players involved now than there were at the end of last year. And I just don't see McConkey scoring double-digit touchdown. So it's not like my projection for him is like he's the target leader on the entire team. I have him as the target leader as well. I mean, I have them with very similar numbers that he had last year, more completions in total because he didn't play a full 17 game season last year.

But Keenan Allen is a target monster. I mean, he had a ton last year. 121 targets in Chicago missing two games with an injury. Adding that to the offense is significant enough to move him down a couple spots. Yeah, Ladd-McConkie is awesome. All three of us here adore and love Ladd McConkey. He was one of my favorite players going in last year. but, you know, last year he had a 22.9% target share. I've got him down at a 21% market share with

Keenan Allen there with, you know, more quality wide receivers to throw the ball to and Tyler Conklin and a good receiver out of the backfield. Two good receivers. I think Najee is a decent receiver out of the backfield. So I believe this is a team that has an extremely smart quarterback. Justin Herbert will find the right guy. You know, I don't think he's going to hyper target anyone. I think he's going to spread the ball around, and he's got a lot of targets to go to now. So I really like Lad, I like his talent. I love this offense, but he did move down quite a bit for me just from a reality of he can't, unless Keenan goes down or something happens,

he can't be up there at 28% of the team's target. I just can't imagine that being his type of season with what this team wants to do and what I believe their personnel allows them to be capable of doing. Sure. I don't have lad anywhere near that type of a target share, but I still have him. I moved him down, I think, a spot. Like, I still have him inside my top 12. He's at number 10 currently for me. As great as, you know, I think Keenan still has things to offer, but a rising superstar in year two who broke out massively in year one, including a dominant play. playoff game. That matters to me. If you can go out on the biggest stage in your first ever playoff game and be a huge part of the offense, I'm not going to let a 33-year-old Keenan Allen stop me from drafting Ladd McConkey. When you're, Jay, when you're saying Herbert's going to find the right guy. I think the right guy is still Ladd McConkey. I don't, I think that Ladd can operate

anywhere on the football field just with his instincts and his football IQ and toughness. So I'm I'm still drafting him at ADP. His ADP is very high. It's wide receiver 11. So Jason and I are the outlier there. It will adjust. Yeah, his ADP is established before the news this morning of the Keenan Allen signing. I don't think it goes down too much.

But so like I told I told you this morning, Jay, I barely move Ladd in response to the Keenan thing. He went from wide receiver 15 to 20 for me. Yeah, I mean, it, I agree that it's not that significant for Lad. It's just a matter of how much, you know, you add two talented rookie wide receivers. you had Keenan Allen, you've got a running game. I just think the dependency is not going to go up on Ladd-McConkey, so I think he's about where he was last year. He was 15th in points per game last season,

obviously ramped up in the second half, where he was the wide receiver 8 in fantasy overall. We saw an adjustment on Herbert's passing percentages. Is that the plan, or is that a result of the... Yeah, that's a big question. J.K. Dobbins' efficiency dipping into the two 0.9 yards per carry range in the second half of the season. That is part of it. I certainly think that is part of it. They weren't able to run the

ball. And so they said, well, we can throw the ball with Herbert. With Najee and Omari and Hampton, I think they're going to be able to run the ball. Their defense has been improved. So this really comes down to, ironically, Justin Herbert's passing attempts. Like, you know, we're talking about what's the target share. It does. It really does. You know, I've got him at 21% target share. Maybe he goes to 23% target share. But what share of what? Are they going to be able to run the ball as much as they want to and not throw it? You know, TBD. But, you know, like you said, Ladd was wide receiver 15 and points per game last year, adding Keenan, adding a couple solid wide receivers and adding Tyler

Conklin, I think the ball gets spread around just a bit more. And number 15, Tyreek Hill of the Miami Dolphins, the great Will he returned a form question. He was not good last year. I mean, you had, we've talked about it a lot this off season, but only two games of 20 plus fantasy points. You couldn't start him with confidence, even when Tua was back. The big plays were not there.

He had more snaps last year, half the yards. So, you know, there was a wrist injury. Bad math. There was a surgery and a wrist injury. There were a lot of changes to the offense that didn't look right. I talked about this

yesterday. I'm worried about the dolphins being that team that if it tips the wrong way early on, you know, is Mike McDaniels going to be there long term? And now you've got another injury you were heard this morning about Tyreek Hill. I also really like Jaylon Waddle this year. The camp reports around Jaylen Waddle are very positive. I hear what you're saying. I was a year too early. You might have been. You might have been. I did joke with Jason yesterday. I was like, my guy, Jaylon Waddle for Mike a second time in a row. So, you know, where are you with Tyreek? and his ADP.

Is someone you just have to make your call on whether because I don't think there's a world where at his ADP is where he finishes. Right now he's being drafted as the wider receiver 13. He's either great and you're getting a steal at wide receiver 13 or he is more done than what you saw last year. In 211 more snaps he had 840 fewer yards.

He wasn't good for your team. what was he wide receiver 20 something last year so he's you know another year older there's yeah wide receiver 23 last year second half was significantly better than than the opener when where two was gone but it still was not Tyreek hill it wasn't the numbers of the number one overall drive the wide receiver the chunk without Tua obviously hurt if Tua plays a whole season there are routes where this can be great for me personally I feel like I'm out on Tari for where he is. I like other wide receivers better.

And I just don't want to be caught holding the bag if he's lost a step. Because the Tyree Kill plays, they just didn't happen last year. Yeah. All right. Number 14, Mike Evans. And this was a home run.

My guy picked two years ago that I'm now going to be the lowest on Mike Evans of this group going into this season. I think the streak ends this year. I don't think Mike Evans gets to a thousand receiving yards. I think this is the beginning of the end for Mike Evans.

Wow. The touchdowns, those will be there. I'm fine with that. But I don't, I do think you're going to start to see the decline, and I think that's part of their plan in drafting Egbuka, in giving the money to Godwin. Jalen McMillan is still going to be involved. So Mike Evans comes in at 14, but I got him at 19,

which, you know, Jason, you're ahead of ADP. I've got him at wide receiver 12. He is a wide receiver 1 to me, which he finished last year, despite missing three games. So where do you weigh in my, in comparison? I was going to pass it off to Jason because I am closer to your side, Andy, of, you know, when the season opened, I guess we have to find out what this new offense looks like because to start last year, if you had taken Mike Evans and then watched Chris Godwin

be draft many rounds later, you were very upset with yourself because Godwin was the one who was absolutely on fire. Mike Evans was really not great for your team, and then it was, after the Godwin injury, then they start force-feeding Mike Evans, all those targets. So with an emergence of McMillan, and then Egbuka, who I'm what Andy of, I really, really like Igbuka, especially at his ADP,

how do you see Mike Evans, like, how do you see the offense shaking out? I think Mike Evans is the clear and, arguable number one for this team with Godwin starting late with Egbuka being a rookie. I mean, two years ago when Mike Evans was the wide receiver five in fantasy football, he scored 14.3 fantasy points per game. He scored more last year. He scored 14.5. He was on pace for over 1,200 yards. I know he barely got to the 1,000. That's because he missed three games. Isn't there a correlation to your criticism of Baker's outlier season though and expectations for Evans' points per game? That's probably on the touchdown side. So if you're saying

you think the touchdowns will definitely be there for him, then that doesn't correlate there. To me, Mike Evans is locked in as a top 15 wide receiver. Barring injury, I don't see how it doesn't happen. Baker is a good quarterback. This system is locked in. He knows his role. He's going to get his targets. Now, he's not a volume guy. He's not a PPR guy. If you're in a full PPR league, he takes a slight hit there versus a half PPR league. The consistency might not always be there even years ago when you were calling, you know, two years ago, that wide receiver five finished where he was a my guy for you, you know, the year prior he had a little bit more of a down year and it came very inconsistently. So, you know, I don't look at where he's going

in drafts and think that the price is too high. He's wide receiver 18 right now in an average draft position. I personally think he beats that. And I will make a bet on that streak of a thousand yard seasons if you want to you want to put that on a board water bed okay sounds good so do you think he's lost a step like did you see something in film that made you believe the beginning of the end is here when you catch 70 something passes a year and you add these other weapons that are just you know better ppr options i mean part of last year's resurgence was the absence of chris godwin yes it was for half of the year so uh You know, he's at that age, too.

Like, you can't just keep doing what you're doing. I think he's entering the Larry Fitzgerald late career arc. And if he happens to be at eight touchdowns with his volume, I think you're going to be disappointed. But we have a difference of opinion there. Sure. JSN comes in at 13. Talked about him extensively yesterday. So if you want to hear the bull case of JSN,

or as some of you did just vehemently disagree with me on every front and share that with us. You can. That was on yesterday's Ice and Fire episode. 23 years old, the wide receiver 10 last year being drafted at the wide receiver 12. You know, you talk about those second year guys,

Mike, where their ADP is steamed up too high. I don't know if that's happening with JSN. Well, he's going as the 12th wide receiver off the board. Right, but I mean, at least in proportion to where he finished, it's not outlandish. like we're not we're not bucky irving this thing where we're like projecting him to go up to five or four or something like that um i i just think that this is one of those situations you look at you can mirror it to um to new york if you want to the jets and you know there's json and everybody

else and there's garrit wilson and everybody else i i think troy horton's going to end up being the wide receiver three there got a rookie at tight end you got cooper cup on his last legs. I just have the confidence that the volume's going to be there, and that's why I have them ranked at 10 overall. You guys have them slightly lower, but I think, I don't think there's huge differences of opinion here. No, no, I'm not completely out on JSN. I just at that 304, you know, wide receiver 12. I'd prefer a couple other guys. At 12 overall, Marvin Harrison Jr. comes in at 12. His ADP is wide receiver 16, so we're homers. is the

I think is the expected refrain to hear so we're slightly above ADP on Marvin Harrison Is this a palatable draft price for Marvin Harrison going into his sophomore year after an up and down rookie season? Yeah, I think this is, you know, he's being drafted as a mid-level wide receiver two and it's much better.

He's being drafted higher than he finished last year when he finished as the wide receiver 28. So you've got to pay a little bit, but if he has that breakout season, still getting a steal. He put on a lot of weight in the offseason, and it looks good how he's using it in camp. Lots of highlights of him dominating, going up, grabbing, you know, contested catches. So does it happen?

We know that Kyler can support a true wide receiver one. Yes, we do. When he's had it with DeAndre Hopkins, the question is, will the Cardinals defense get better, their run game? Will they slow it down? Will they try to take the ball out of Kyler's head? hands a little bit more. The nice thing, you know, Marvin doesn't have a lot of target competition. You've got

Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison and then a bunch of We're very consolidated. Slubs. It's, hopefully it's very Kansas City Chiefs where it's Tyreek and it's Travis Kelsey and you just don't have to worry about anybody else. Yeah, that's what you're banking on, but it is a projection. He was really

inconsistent. When he scored a touchdown last year, awesome. Almost 17 fantasy points a game. When he didn't score, You didn't get PPR numbers. You got five fantasy points a game and a lot of tears and losses for fantasy. So he was a player that really, I think, emotionally mess people off. It was brutal starting him because just when you thought you were out, you're like, I'm going to find the difference path for my fantasy team.

Then he'd have a spike week and your chips would go all the way back in. And then he would just let you down over and over. Target share wise, he was at 21%. You know, that's good for a rookie. Yeah, so Garrett Wilson as a rookie was 22%. A.J. Brand was 20. C.D. Lamb was at 19. So there.

If you want to know what? It wasn't as disappointing. We've said this all offseason. His year in totality of nearly 900 yards and eight receiving touchdowns is not a bad rookie year. It's a bad rookie year for a player where the expectation was we, I think he was going in the second round. He was drafted at the one-two turn.

He was like a first round or a second rounder, depending on, you know, which league you were in. Yeah, you talk about targets here. I'm most concerned with the way they were using him and where those targets on the field were. If you want to look at the film and you want to look at what Marvin Harrison struggled with, 69% of his targets were 10 plus yards down the field. You look at neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. Those were under 50% for both those guys. They were, you know, lower probability, lower probability targets.

That's why you see variance. That's why you see 10 games of 4.7 fancy points a game when you don't score. You do. You need the layups, Mike. You need the slant routes. You need the outs. And to be honest, that's where you can look at his performance and say that was not what you expected from a top five pick. He wasn't physical enough.

He couldn't get off the line of scrimmage sometimes. He couldn't win the 50-50 balls. And he wasn't being used because he couldn't do that. So that has to change. Yeah. And he's obviously, he has changed his body to change that. He has worked hard. This is not a guy resting on his laurels or his draft, you know, capital.

His rookie season is so close to identical to D.K. Metcalf's rookie season, you know, near the same targets, near the same receptions, near the same yards, near the same receiving touchdowns, and near the same fantasy finish. The year two for D.K. McCaff, he went from the wide receiver 32 to the wide receiver seven. And that was based on more downfield winning, more. touchdowns and if you look at a guy who could go into year two with you know touchdown prowess getting double digits that's that's in the range of outcomes for for marv T higgins comes in at number 11 the last name we'll talk about today I have him at 16 Jason at 11 on the dot which is

where he is here today Mike at 12 ADP's wide receiver 14 and um you know we've been around the block with T higgins several times right we We've had him. Mike has grabbed his hand and taking a stroll with T. Higgins season after season. There's a lot to like about T. Higgins. It's strange because he is also a player where the per game metrics, the per route metrics, all that stuff looks amazing. But when you just don't look at games played. Yeah, when you get to the end of the year and the fantasy finish, we never get to say he's inside the top 15. But maybe, maybe that can change. You have the most efficient quarterback in football and Joe Burrow.

You've got Jamar Chase soaking up coverage on the other side. I mean, this is the best tandem in football. It's just a little bit hairy in the middle of the third round, just making that call, making that decision. There are other players to choose from, right? We're not sitting there where he's some super value. No. You're going to be taking him.

He's going right now, Tyree Kill or T. Higgins and Brees Hall. Those are the, that's kind of the... I mean, those three, I'm going to take T. Higgins. Right. If you go deeper, if you go deeper, you can also get Marvin Harrison, Garrett Wilson, Terry McLaren. um yeah so when i look at that that's you cheated on that one because if you say bruce hall's name around anybody you know i'm not going to yeah um some stank when i look at that i'm fine with t higgins there um you know i've taken them in a lot of mock drafts t higgins on a per game basis was absolutely outstanding even better last year than he had been in the past his metrics next

to umar chase they're not that different it's surprising 26% target share to 23% this is for last year yeah for Yeah, for last year, 25% targets per outrun to 24% yards per outrun, 2.4 to 2.1. First read targets, like where's Joe Burrow going pre-snap, 34% to 30%. It's like T. Higgins is, he's a 1B is just 1A is maybe the best wide receiver in the entire league. I mean, is his historical points per game valuable to you or is the 15 and a half last year? that was way above where he's been. And he missed five games. That's the other part

of the story. So the historical points per game this is so, you have to make a lot of apologies for T-Higgins. If you go and you take out if you go and you take out the games where he started and was injured, you know, played 2% of the snaps which is super unfortunately not

just one or two or three. It's like it's happened like five times. I mean you take those out. You're like the points per game are actually pretty darn good. He's always been right there. Well, you don't get to take him out. No. No, no. That's the decision. It's funny because the five-miss games don't include the games he played 2% of snaps. It's like we're talking about Kenneth Walker. And I find myself in on T. Higgins and out on Kenneth Walker, but it's the same argument. This is a very, very talented player. Now, when I

stat him out and he comes to wide receiver 11, guess what? I've statted him for 17 games. Maybe that is absolute foolishness. Now, I do think if he plays 17 games, he's going to be a great fantasy asset. So the question is just, you know, is this a a quote unquote injury prone player that you will not get that from or, you know, based on his contract and he's paid to be out there, you know, he gets his money on roster bonus checks. Does he get the check, the game day check if he plays 2% of snaps? Probably. Oh, that's not good. That's not good. That's not good. That's going to work against you, Cincinnati. Come on. Meet. Meet Higgins needs to he needs to shine he needs to be out there 12 games last year 12 games a year before that is the

story we're healthy meat there are a handful of players you don't have to take if you don't want to take them because you just don't want to go through that experience again and that's totally fine yeah yeah he's not like i said he's not a super discount this is not some place where like all that is being baked in because he had such a a great points per game season and he's got such a great quarterback and a need to throw the football you know i think he came out he's got a hundred catch target on the year and he's always been more of the mike evans you know His career high in receptions in a year is 74. And he's done that like three times.

74, 74, 73. That's about where he normally ends up. Yeah. Imagine 17 games. Impossible. Impossible. He probably doesn't. If you ask T. Higgins, how many games are in a season?

I don't know if he knows the answer. Yeah. I don't know if he could answer you with, he'd be like, I have no idea. Twelve? It is very common year after year after year for teams to have two top 24 wide receivers. For teams to have two top 12 wide receivers, like when you have a good offense. and a great quarterback. It is not uncommon for two wide receivers to be in the top 12,

and that's kind of how I see. If any offense could do that, which is common, it would be the Cincinnati Bengals with a bad defense and Joe Burrow. All right. Tomorrow we're going to count down the top 10 fantasy wide receivers. We've got a mock draft episode on the way as well. We've got running back rankings to get into our top 10 tips and tricks. And the my guys.

We'll lock those in. We'll share them with you very, very soon. I think that's on the docket for next week. Check out the Ultimate Draft Kit. at Ultimate draft kit.com. I think Jason just found out that the my guys. Next week? Yeah, it's next because you're not locked in on yours. Oh, man. Yeah. Next meet. Next meet. Okay. All right. Thank you for joining us today. Shout out to the Ducers minus Josh. And we'll catch you on tomorrow's episode.

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