Fat Chance Podcast - Ep.46 - Matt Heilmann

Episode Date: January 20, 2022

I will come back and fill this in correctly later...hopefully

Yeah, we're good. I've figured out what I levels are good fucked up with like do you have to hold it like close to your mouth or not so much? No, so I was telling Jake last time to have it like here's fine. But then I need to start fucking breathe in the microphone. But I just hold it like this. That's why I have my arm up here. Um, I want to start with the magical juice you have in this fucking container. Oh, you want to start with that? I want to start with this.

Yes. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's called glug. Glug. Glug. I'm pretty sure it's called, it's either glug or grog and you're bringing you might have to google it we might have to just google something right away just so we don't that's fine people i can look at my phone yeah but talk about it because we live

in a society where you don't have to have any questions you can just like you don't have to like i don't know i don't know the answer to that let's move on you know we live in 2022 so glug it's called glug wine is it like a swedish thing it's yeah it's like a brandy wine are we just gonna take pulls off of this like we're 17 we're actually gonna oh sure why not sharing's caring in this covid world is mulled wine the same? Oh, Glog. All right, it's called Glog. Glog? I thought it was Glog. G-L-O-G-G. Two Gs, okay.

I think. Glog, Glog, or Glogi is a spiced, usually alcoholic mulled wine or spirit. It is a traditional Nordic drink during winter, especially around Christmas. In the Nordic countries, hot wine has been a common drink. This is hot? This is going to be room temperature. Great. This is going to be fucking gross.

Should we have like glasses or something, you think? Should we get classy with it? I think we should get glasses. Here, let me raid Jake's kitchen. The wet bar is right there. Fun fact, we're back in what I consider what looks like the set of a living room at Ikea. Because Jake has nothing on his walls.

Jake's not here, and he is kind enough to let us use it. So this is what it was given to me. What does that say? It was Wisconsin Music Ventures. It was my mentor today. He was like, you want some Glock? i'm like what the fuck is glog man this is like like here that one thing where be careful i'm like this is like you have a friend that's like hey i make i make booze like do you really like i made wine and it comes

in like a like a plastic bag like i'm not drinking this yeah like it's like oddly strong too do not give me a ton this is gonna be this would be the first time i go on stage one in front of you and two probably hammered tonight yeah at this rate i don't even know't even know. I won't go on for another four hours is my guess. I was kind of lit. I could do damage in four hours. You were lit last night? I was kind of lit.

Thank you, sir. And then just make sure you get yourself back into the camera. Cheers. It smells like fireball. Smell it. It's got a cinnamony taste or smell to it. Spiced, definitely spiced. You know, what is the decoration that like smells at Christmas?

Or maybe it's just a candle. I almost said ginseng. What's that smell? Oh, good lord. Not like cinnamon or something. It kind of is cinnamony. There's definitely cinnamon in it. It's like a mulled brandy wine.

I feel like this is going to taste like a cherry fireball. Are we going to like slug the whole thing? I'm going to sip it first. You don't want to slug the whole thing? That's okay. No, because I might throw up on Jake's couch. I just turned 24 and... Oh, you're that old? Yeah, man. Damn.

That means you're that old Yeah man Damn That means you're That old I'm only 25 That's not too bad No I'm young for Yeah At what point do I stop saying my grade I'm 25 I haven't been in a grade in a while

If I'm 30 I'm like Are you in my grade Hit me across the face What grade are you in I don't know me across the face. What grade are you in? I don't know. 45th? I'm still in school, you know? And at orientation, people were like, oh, like, what year are you?

Like, what grade are you in? I was like, I'm in 17th grade. And then I was like, academia is a farce, bro. Dude, I can't imagine. I was talking to a – Cheers. Academia is fake. I just tried it.

If you're in college right now – We could shoot this if you want. You want to? I tried it. It smells like a candle going down, but it tastes like kid's wine. Kid's wine? Like, it doesn't have – What is kid's wine?

That's such a Wisconsin thing, kid's wine. Well, so have like you know like what I want kids you know such a Wisconsin thing kids one Well, so like let me explain like if a kid wanted it like if they made a wine that was For kids it would taste like this Like them candy cigarettes, yeah They're like hey, here's like some fake one. It's like sparkling grape juices wine sweet. This is This is a headache. It's like Swedish. Wow, grape juices of wine sweet this is this is a headache it's like swedish wap you know like yeah juice this is a headache right here like if we finish that i would be dead tomorrow trying to ski with jake tomorrow would be brutal are you going i think so oh yeah and then so this is our game plan is he has lessons till two i can do whatever tomorrow probably actually be proactive and put

some of this together and then we'll go skiing snowboarding and then meet out with you and what's his name oh tony flow tony flow from miami flow tony shout out to tony flow from miami at tony flow music hottest dj most cerebral dj from miami i feel like his instagram just has to be like cover posters of like bars he's performing at like hey djing at the the dirty dirty nightclub down in miami sunset boulevard come check me out $20 cover free drink if you know me kind of thing that's his whole instagram is that's what the name sounds like yeah he's a killing drummer too this is for tony flo cheers buddy see you tomorrow dude see i keep i was like over slamming that i was like expecting it to like be brutal to go down. But like, okay. So, you know what I was saying before, like wine.

Does it ever leave your mouth like a little dry? That I don't think would. No, that was. It's a little more. It was very wet. Did you see that? Did that just go on and off? Yeah, flickered.

There's a ghost in this apartment. Oh, I know. I swear to God. It's Jake. Jake and I were talking. I think we talked about it here once Where The guy in the apartment Next to him Said

Or above him Was like Yeah the ghost lives The ghost lives on like The floor above him And like two below him Didn't someone like die or something? That's always the case man

Someone always dies When a building is this old Someone had to have died in there Like Absolutely If you It's Like

Let's put it this way There's about 70 coats of white paint on Jake's walls like this used to be like 200 square feet it's now like 199 mm-hmm which is significant when it comes to paint we found this so I noticed I was in Jake's bedroom the other day and I noticed this like metal circle in the wall like with a like a it like it was I was like what the fuck is that so I like walk over and I'm like yo Jake what is this he's like I think it's like a like a thermometer thing I'm like there's no way in hell it's a thermometer you think the you think the radiator is controlled by a thermometer yeah or like a dial I was like no way man so being. So, being in 2022, I, like, Googled it.

There's, like, some text on there. Apparently, it's, like, a safe. There's a safe in his room. Really? Yeah. It's probably been, like, boarded up or something like that. I think if you knew the combination, you could get in. Really?

Yeah. What do you think you would find in something? Like, how old is this building? Probably 70 years old? Well, those safes, I looked it up. They were only built between like mid 19 maybe like 1908 or 1910 to like 1920 or something.

Only like a 10 year period. And if you had one of those in your apartment, man, you were rich. And now Jake is like, I fucking hate this kitchen. The difference between like 100 years can make is amazing. I mean, it sounds like a long time, but in the grand scheme of things, a hundred years

is fucking nothing. And if that's like, if we don't even know what that is and that was like, you are like Richie Rich and now Jason, like rightfully so. And like this is, I mean, he's got nothing in that kitchen. It's barely a stove in there oh you should see my kitchen in new york man yeah i i occasionally come across videos for like all right this is uh like those weird reels tiktok real estate agents they're like let me show you this apartment yeah like this is a steal and that you open the door and it's just this room like the

beds there the kitchen's there you got a nice closet here another half closet there meanwhile it's the size of a fucking backpack and they're like 2500 a month i'm like what yep it's insane yep i couldn't do it it's ridiculous i couldn't do it like to live in new york every every time i'm trying to cook something To live in New York, I question my – every time I'm trying to cook something, I question my whole life choice. Like, life choice – like, my path in life. It's like, what the fuck am I doing in this – I question that every day. In this tiny, like, three-room, like, apartment, like, in the Upper West Side.

Like, the fuck? Three-room is surprising to hear, actually. I'm surprised you guys aren't all sharing a couch. Well, three rooms, that's a stretch, man. It's like two rooms and a closet. It's a flex. You know what a flex apartment is? No.

So it used to be a one-bedroom studio kind of thing. They use these, like, they're trying to define this real estate, but, like, it's all just small garbage. The fact that you just went, like, it's a three-bedroom apartment. It used to be a one-bedroom studio. Yeah, but now it's, like, the one bedroom split into two, and so my roommate and I share it. And then we have a living room that's, like, a little bit smaller than this room that we're in which is not very big no but that's not a kitchen that's like a quarter of the size of jake's see that's that's my biggest thing is now

that i'm so into cooking and whatnot that is my like i just need it and i haven't had good kitchens in any apartment well i've actually had two apartments where the kitchens were pretty decent. But, like, having space to move around and cook is probably my number one thing. I don't care if my room's a shoebox. Totally. I need. It could be. I could live in a coffin if I wanted to.

If I had. Like Dracula. If my room. All I need for my room is bed, desk, dresser. Or, like, closet. That's it. And. But, like, I would, would like sacrifice all that for a decent kitchen just for some sanity because you're like you're like i just want to eat i want to survive and you can't like you're bumping into cabinets you leave one cabinet door open you

like slice your eye open and shit like that exactly i couldn't do that the best thing about my apartment though thanks for asking you're welcome gotta be the great host gotta be the you have a bidet yeah man and we had you told me this actually yeah man how nice is it water from now on in my life is a part of that process really it has to be why isn't it for everyone i know why is dry paper the norm for that makes sense process you know like what the that makes sense like we washed like to be considered clean for every other part of your body we shower we get it soaking wet and with soap exactly yet our assholes where shit yeah literally comes out of we're like thing that comes out of a person usually. We take fucking toilet, just toilet paper.

Most of like, I don't even, I don't know. I'm not going to confess what I do down there, but like just toilet paper. Like we're good. No, we're not. No, we're not. Probably the most disgusting, like stinkiest part of our body. And we do the bare minimum. Exactly.

Is it laziness? Is it, do we not, is there a shortage not is there a shortage of how we're trained i just think everyone should use bidets all i think that everyone would be a little more confident i think everyone would be a little happier a little more they're like you ever have a little more free you ever have like uh this to be gross, but you take a shit, and then like about an hour later you're walking and you're like, fuck. Oh, yeah. It's a little like grease stuff. You're almost like, I got to wipe.

That's the worst feeling. You're like, I got to wipe again. Yeah. That is the worst fucking feeling because you thought you did a good job. You know what my friend's – shout out to Hans Hansen. You know what his dad calls that? What? It's called an inad, an inadequate wipe.

I like that. Yeah, inad. Inad. Yeah. Sometimes I guess you're in a – I get impatient sometimes where you're like – you ever sat up and you're like it's – you know you're not done, but like I can't sit here anymore this isn't working out and you just that's that's when i start like looking through my venmo feed yeah

like that's that level of boredom yeah i've done that before it's like i don't want to accept i don't want to accept reality and get off the toilet no it's when i'm on the toilet it's my world man it's my world it's the most one of the most comfortable seats in the house for a guy, for sure. No doubt. I don't know what it is. Also, are you like – I kind of like the – do you like a higher toilet or a lower toilet? I don't know. If you like a higher toilet, I think you're insane.

Like the water level? No, the seat. Oh, the seat? Yeah. Because, you know, people – like you're supposed to shit with like your knees up like that Yeah, isn't there like a like a foot like a foot thing you can like like basically a step stool. Yeah. Yeah For you, I like how long did it take us to get to the bowel talk like 14 minutes 14 minutes? Yeah, that's gotta be a new record. I have we have only you have one thing you want to bring up

And I have one thing I want you to talk about That's it, but we're basically just talking about shit. We're 14 minutes in. We've had sketchy wine, and we're talking about shit. You want some more? Why not? At this point now – At this point, yeah.

I was talking to Jake earlier today or last night. I was like, I haven't done a drinking episode in forever. And those were so fun. I would drink during the episode, and then I would just roll it right into the high note. Yeah, I'm fine with that. I like how I said if we finish this, I'm going to have a headache, and I didn't think we would. And now that we're almost done with it, it looks like. We're just bad people. I don't care. We're just bad.

It's okay. I don't. Do you drink as much as when you were in college? I'm still in college. I feel like you're, like, you're not. It's not grad school, but you finished undergrad. Yeah, it is grad school. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't. Like, for me, college is undergrad. Like, you're doing cool stuff. Like, we should actually tell them. Like, you were in a legit music school because you're insanely talented at what you do. Yeah, thank you, man. Yeah.

Yeah, I go to Manhattan School of Music. Don't tag them in this. Don't. Tell them about if you know anyone that goes there. My name is J. Kyleyle tell me it's not um yeah i but like no you you really are extremely talented i didn't realize like i think when i not first met you but um jason case got perfect pitch i'm like i didn't like honestly believe that was a thing yeah you've like exhibited it for me i mean we watched you i watched you perform for what was Jake's like, hey, he's got perfect pitch. I'm like, I didn't honestly believe that was a thing.

You've exhibited it for me. I mean, I watched you perform for, what was it, four hours last night? Yeah, that was my longest solo gig ever, to be totally honest with you. I will be honest with you. I laughed so hard. You were doing little stand-up bits in the middle. I was like, this is fucking awesome. You sang for the first time ever. But the best thing you did besides perform

is okay so you did 45 minutes beginning i think i showed up like 10 minutes into it yeah you get up and you're like i'm gonna take a break is that okay we're me jake emily are the only three in the bar besides like the bartender one other person and he's like yeah fine he goes all right 20 minutes dude you didn't go on for like 45 minutes after that. Yeah, that's a Milwaukee thing. I was like, you can do whatever. That's when I was like, you really could do whatever you wanted here. That's how these Milwaukee gigs go.

You can show up generally around the time that it's supposed to start and generally play anywhere from 35 to 50-minute sets and then long-ass breaks, enough to smoke a joint. And also say hi to people because we're social people here, you know. They were – the people there were extremely friendly. Like, I don't know what – a girl walked in at one point it was like hi guys how are you what's your name it's nice to meet you you guys look very nice people who the fuck are you like like the standoffish person in me i was like get the fuck away from me yeah and then

i have to be like this person's like just trying to connect with us and be nice i'm like okay calm down it smells so good finish the seltzer first before I go back and forth. Remember that I don't want to talk shit about people, actually, so never mind. I'll talk to you later about it. I think I know where you're going with it. Was it the last time I was there? No, no, no, no. Wait, you were at Angelo's a different time.

I've been to Angelo's three times. When was the last time? Angelo's Piano Bar on Van Buren and Brim. I want to talk to them. Sick. Do you think I could potentially get them to host a comedy night there? Yeah, it would have to be, like, so that everyone wins, so that there's enough people to, like, have a fucking audience that isn't, like, six people.

You'd have to, like, it'd have to be, like, a fucking audience that isn't like six people um you'd have to like it'd have to be like a bringer show you know what a bringer show is like bring people like everyone has to like bring a couple people well so like the only reason i i think it could work is and this isn't like a dig on anything that happened last night but last night wasn't like packed by any means. It was a good crowd. Yeah, it was just a solid, okay crowd. I feel like if we put on an open mic there, I could get at least that many people in comics there. Yeah, totally. Because comics in Milwaukee are hungry.

There's actually a decent more than I thought now that I'm getting to know the area and the people and like there's like a Facebook group. There's like this is where Mike's from. I'm like, oh, I thought it was just two places. There's more than I thought. They're doing – it's pretty cool actually. It is cool. I did a – I don't remember a lot of names. I'm terrible with names.

Horrible. Mark. But yeah. Thanks'm terrible with names. Horrible. Mark. But, yeah. Thanks, Kevin. Yeah. Do I look like... Do I give off a Kevin? No.

I don't know what your other name would be. Me neither. You could... I don't know. Sven was on the table for me. No lie. My parents were like Sven. In my head, I just...

I was thinking of your brother, and I go, you could be a Matt like you are a fucking i am yeah that's what i am yeah thanks you are you are you are a definite mat oh my i literally like stopped myself i'm like you are dumb you are stupid um i don't know what else you would be. I like seeing. What were we talking about before? Comedy, possibly putting something on the answers. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the comedy scene is pretty deep, man. Like the Bremen open mic at 8, one time. I wish I would have seen your text earlier.

I would have had you. I think I'm going to do the same set tonight, though, ish. Cool. I'm going to run it by you just to see which one. Well, I'm also going to feel it out. You do, man. I know. But did I tell you the story about the Bremen open mic when the comedian got so angry at me that he – Here, I'll just tell you a little story.

Yeah, I want to hear this. So it was – First of all, how long ago was this? It was 2020. Okay. So it was... First of all, how long ago was this? This was 2020. Okay.

Gotta be... It was right when I started working at HH, at the Ski Hill. I used to work at the Ski Hill. It was my Corona gig. Like, it must have been October. Like, late October, early November or something. And the Bremen has a music jam at 10, but they also have a comedy open mic at 8. That's a lot of the mics here, I think, is it's comedy,

and then we'll take you right into karaoke. Yeah. So we were just – I, like, was in the neighborhood early. We were, like, just chilling, doing River West things, getting high and drunk. Yeah. You know, whatever. Normal. Normal stuff.

And there was this comedian on stage, and he was doing his thing. And he was doing a lot of crowd work and he was like a very like his character was like very inflammatory and like he kind of like was like kind of like a little rage inside of him I could tell and the heckler in me was like let's fucking go

I wonder if you'll see him tonight maybe I think he said he was like on this show like on like Showtime or like one of those like cables so then you won't see him tonight yeah i don't know i don't remember his name but um i was like heckling him and he was like who's like you like who the fuck are you man like are you even from milwaukee like can you even tell me where like the popeyes is on capital like what's the cross street like are you even from mil where, like, the Popeyes is on Capitol? Like, what's the cross street? Like, are you from Milwaukee?

I'm like, yeah, like, fucking born and raised here. I don't know this shit. And, like, we were getting into it, and he got so mad that he dropped the mic, went off stage, like, came up to me, tore his shirt off. What? He took his shirt off in the Bremen. That's a whole other thing I want to talk about. Why do guys have to take their shirt off if they're about to and this is not the kind of if he's not he had like it like kind of like one of

them like guts like like skinny he was like skinny fat like maybe mid-30s yeah I was like skinny fat a little bit like there was no like it wasn't like a flex for him to take off his shirt by any means. But he did it nonetheless. And then afterwards, he was like, yo, thank you so much, like, for doing that. I was like, you're welcome. Wait, so he thanked you then? Yeah. So this guy bipolar as fuck?

No, I gave him something. I gave, I put him on his toes. toes you know comedians love to be on their toes yeah no i get it but i that was just weird it was bizarre yeah bizarre bizarro and that's that's saying something for river west you know where everything i like i've only done bremen twice now i like it because i just see i'm like Monday night. You got to have a pickled egg there, man. I've never eaten there. Well, eating, their menu is like you can get a frozen pizza out like a pizza oven. Yeah.

Beef sticks are like $3. I had an alligator beef stick at the Bremen in River West, and that's how hip I am. Okay, so is it a true pickled egg, or have you ever tried this hack so good like a food hack food hack so if you like hard boiled eggs and pickles my mom showed me this and she i don't know where she got it from when you finish your jar of pickles as long as you're not psychotic and drink the fucking juice um yeah save the container and the pickle juice and make like six hard boiled eggs and then just drop the hard boiled eggs into the pickle juice let it sit for like a day and a half two days instead of like the vinegary pickley taste you get that like kosher dill um cloths and pickle

taste in a hard-boiled egg in the egg in the egg like just on the outside like it doesn't like soak in to the point where like you bite in like the juices flow out but it's almost like it comes part of it it's so try it it's so fucking good like Do you like pickles and eggs? I like pickles, and I like eggs, and I guess I like pickled eggs. You would like this. You would like this. You think so? Yeah. It's so good.

Would it be good with hot sauce? Yeah, you could put hot sauce on it for sure. Is it slimy? No. It doesn't change the texture at all it's so you make a hardball you know what a hardball that feels like i feel like i just said that so poorly a little spongy yeah yeah drop it in pull it out it's like wet when it comes out from the juice other than that you bite into it it has a little pickled like you were the tang

the tang but not vinegary it tastes like the Klaassen pickles you were just eating the week before. It's really good. Also, I'm a big fan of... Are you a hard-boiled egg or a soft-boiled egg? Like, where it's a little runny, kind of in the middle still? I like a little runny yolk. Soft-boiled, I agree. I finally, like, figured out, like, tried to do them, and I can nail it now.

It's like the... I feel like it's the equivalent of medium-rare steak or rare on the rarer side. The only time I do hard-boiled now is, like, oh, I don't even make deviled eggs. But if I were to make deviled eggs where you need that, like, powdery stuff and mix it with mustard. Otherwise, soft-boiled egg every time. Fun fact. Not a fun fact. Fun little story. my uh so my mom

really liked that she likes the egg thing the right in the pickle jar and she likes that's a good idea she likes hard-boiled eggs next time i'm trying to make some real white people food yeah so she uh she was making hard-boiled eggs one night. And my mom often forgets she's cooking because I have been doing it for the last – Forgets she's cooking. Yeah, for the last, like, basically year and a half. I have done almost – I would say 98% of the cooking. And so if I'm, like, running late or outdoor, I'm like, hey, can you just throw chicken in the oven? I'll eat it when I get home.

Sometimes I will come home and the chicken is still in the oven. And so I'm like, hey, am I eating hockey pucks tonight? Like the driest of chicken. Well, she did this with the eggs recently. First, it was like, obviously, you know, when you boil water, it evaporates a bit. But you have to put enough water in to boil eggs, to cover the eggs. You were telling me about the rice test cover the eggs is there like you were telling me about the rice test last night is there like an equivalent for eggs no it doesn't matter do

they know about the rice test well i'll do that after this all right um most people everyone should know this rice test but um so you put a decent amount of water in to boil let's say six eggs that would take a while to evaporate my mother forgot to take the eggs out for so long that i'm sitting on the couch i hear bang bang bang bang pow oh shit all of the water evaporated and then the eggs cooked long enough after that that they exploded all over the place. Burnt. I mean, they're black. Just. Was there a lid on the pot?

No. I mean. Oh, damn. Yeah. So, yeah. There you go. When you hear bang and you don't know someone's cooking, I'm like, what the fuck was that? And I was like, I think I'm making eggs.

You think for the last two hours? Well, yeah. The rice test real quick. Or not test. You make rice. One, wash it. Yeah, true. Multiple times.

If you don't wash your rice, do you want to eat dust? Yeah. Do you desire it? Do you desire to eat dust? The rice will change a little color. Yeah. You put the rice in, fill it with water, and you put your finger into the water. The water, once your finger touches the top of the rice,

the water should go to the first line in your finger. No matter what your, like, where it is, like, I don't care how big your hands are, how small they are, first line, you'll make basically perfect rice every time. Do you think Giannis fucks up his rice a lot? We had this conversation last night. No, you outed me, man. It's supposed to sound fresh. It's supposed to sound improvised, man.

No, no, I'm going to continue it. Don't worry. I still don't think Giannis makes his own rice. He's such a humble guy, though, man. Just because he's humble doesn't mean he's not stupid rich. Has someone cooking for him? Yeah. I eat the Buck's chefs.

Remember – okay, so there's – remember that guy that was sitting at the table he uh he uh he worked at zafiro's pizzeria which is on the street over there over there also it's in like a few movie theaters over there zafiro's yeah marcus cinema um he was like yeah i used to deliver pizzas to the health athletic training center, whatever the fuck, like for the Bucs. And I was like, are you telling me the Bucs are training and practicing and working out and then putting back Zafiro's pizza? I mean, I don't doubt it. I also don't blame him.

I don't blame him. I don't blame him. No athlete eats, like like maybe Tom Brady but no athlete is perfect in their diet and that's because they can no doubt yeah they've already made it well it's not even like that they made it but when you work out that much every day you need to put some calories into your body and I'm sorry you can't eat 19 chicken breasts a day a slice of pizza isn't going to kill them at all true maybe a little like what is it they need the fuel they need exactly i think solid fuel to operate the big thing a lot of people say is like we need to cut

back on sugar which is totally we really do i'm so addicted to sugar man so many people i'm getting better i have a sweet tooth but i'm like'm good at cutting back on it during the week. But a lot of people say you should have a little bit of sugar after an intense workout because it helps your body. It's good for you after a really intense workout. So the food they eat isn't that bad. A cheeseburger for Giannis will do significantly less to him

than it would if you or I ate it. Yeah, true. I work out every day throughout the week. It would still murder my body tenfold over what it does to him. Yeah. His body's condition just murder food exactly it's

literally fuel for him yes it would probably be better if he's eating just chicken and rice and broccoli and beans and i don't know superfoods kale superfoods man who i mean now if they're gonna they gotta make a a better superfood than acai bowls what the hell those aren't i don't even think those are that healthy for you there's no way it's healthy because people like it there's no way it's healthy yeah what is that why is everything good for you just shit for the most part but look acai bowls i think are poor because of like the high sugar content in fruit like everything like i think the best way to put it is everything not everything not everything um but a lot of things are good in moderation everything's good in moderation except for like

fucking heroin fentanyl yeah like fentanyl is not good for you at all yeah yo man that's like psa test your if you do drugs test your shit um i go to this really progressive house venue like house music venue in ridgewood new york i i love it there i'm not gonna tell you what it is Cause I don't want you to find me there Doing what I do there But they have like They're so They have like drug testing You just go up to the bar and you're like

Hey like Can I get some test trips And they're like yeah That's good They're like go to the bathroom And just like go do it Like don't Like it's like

What the fuck But that's a good thing Oh it's a great thing It's a great thing I also don't like it's like what the fuck but that's a good thing oh it's a great thing it's a great thing I also don't understand it's definitely saved lives I guarantee it so many lives so many lives I don't understand the the idea of cutting it like okay I understand it like maybe expand yeah expand your supply but also in the long run aren't you just if you're gonna overdose all your clients your customers you're just limiting future customers true that's the thing about so many things in capitalism are short-sighted yeah like i want it now now most most americans are i need it now i don't

want to work for it totally yeah we're all every one of us is guilty of it some more than others absolutely yeah but there's by no means i'd be like i'm perfect i'm not like there i would love for tomorrow this episode has a million views yeah dude let's just like should we just take our clothes off and see how many people let's just thirst trap the rest i'm just kidding i mean this already looks like a porno set like i was like the minute i saw it i'm ready to ready to take my socks off here and get comfy yeah get get comfy i got my shoes off. I let my grundle out here. You never know what's going to happen. And we're drinking fucking Grog. Grog. That is an ugly fucking name.

Wait, is it Glog? I already forgot, man. Glog. Glog. Glog. Gog. Glog. Glog.

Glogi was the name. I thought it was Glog because I was like, I want to drink it like Glog, Glog, Glog, Glog, Glog. But Glog is just not an attractive name no no many of these many of these nordic words are functionally not how many people like in other countries are like we call i don't know i can't even think of something but like that's an ugly name too like it's just outside perspective we don't know what Glogg really Actually we do know what Glogg means I'm gonna ask my Swedish

I have this Swedish friend named I'm Swedish Dag Vibel You're Swedish? Yeah Swiss Swedish German

Polish And part Persian Persian? Yeah My grandma I believe According to my mom Had some of her like shit tested or whatever, and we are part Persian.

Like, like, fent test strips, but. Yeah, I think she's, like, 23 and me or shit like that. Yeah. And we're part Persian, I believe. And she even said, like, there's a chance we are part royalty. I'm like, bullshit. If we are part royalty, Where the fuck is the money Also

I believe Persia is modern day Iran That could be so wrong And I'm not gonna look it up Great We should look it up That's so refreshing to just be like I don't know

I don't know the answer That's an educated guess it's an educated guess should we look it up let's just leave it hanging man yeah who cares persia doesn't even exist i know iraq exists iran exists saudi arabia we just listen to israel is it all persia turkey isn't persia i don't know turkey's like how cool would that be though if i found out one day like i'm descendant from royalty like my head gets big sometimes oh my god i'd look like an airhead from one of those commercials how does okay so do you think people like find out they have like royal blood in them whatever

the fuck that means like royal descendants whatever and they like try to capitalize on it i feel like it's instant entitlement of course it's like who the fuck do you think you're talking to guy at the convenience store but at the same time like i'm literally royalty i'm royal blood like yeah you know what no you're not i mean you know what that probably means it's pretty likely you're inbred yeah exactly pretty likely you're inbred what was the thing like aren't we all technically supposed to be related like if you go back the human race yeah it depends on if you believe in the bible or not i guess yeah but also like how many people have there been on this planet right i think i saw some video.

I think the figure is like 100 billion, and you can quote me on that. It's like 100 billion or so. I saw some video where it's like, all right, you have two parents. They each have two parents. It's four. Like, he did the numbers. Like, you go back six generations, and we surpass fucking 100 billion people, or it was more than six generations or something like that.

So he goes, the only explanation is we're all related. Like, that's fucking weird but also whatever we're just all inbred and that's why we can't get along i don't have a club foot we're good word that's so bad damn bro savage savage what are they gonna do sure cancel this podcast here's the clubfoot that'd be fun here's the here's the bow-legged clubfooted

people yeah cheers for you guys you have representation wobble this way in the fat chance podcast you have representation here we'll make you a t-shirt

we care about you we are making that t-shirt we are making that t-shirt we gotta do it right man I want single stitch I want a single a t-shirt. We care about you. We are making that t-shirt. Oh, true. We are making that t-shirt. We got to do it right, man. I want single stitch. I want a single stitch t-shirt, like a groovy font. Like, tell them about it. Okay, so we tried to, like, do the whole backstory, too, for how we got to it.

So this weekend, we took two of the girls we were with in Nashville had us take this test called the Rice Purity Test. Like the rice test. Yeah. Which basically, for people who don't know what this is, I think it's made up. But because some of the questions were insane. So it's 100 questions, and it's basically what have you done in like a sexual manner. Some of them are dumb. Are they all sexual?

For the most part. They have to do with – Is that what purity is? Yeah. It's basically like a fun game you play with your friends, I'm pretty sure. Is it like thou shalt not covet your neighbor's house? No, it's like question one might be like, have you ever kissed someone? And then question two is like, have you ever kissed someone after midnight?

So it's easy to knock off some scores. Yeah, taken it before it's you unzipped me and it's but there but there are some there are some like other questions whatever questions get progressively more intense more intense yeah so we we're taking this test and we like compare scores or whatever and so the higher the score the more innocent you are the more pure you are lower the score bigger the salute uh man whore whatever whatever you want to call yourself your preferred preferred derogatory sexual put down um so i brought this up last night at his gig and i told him him, I was like, you know what's fucked up, though, is the last question is, have you ever engaged in bestiality? And in my head, I was like, if anyone ever gets a score of zero, meaning they have engaged in bestiality, that test should go right to the fucking FBI.

Right to the fence. And you need to go straight to prison. Go right to the fucking FBI. Right to the fence. And you need to go straight to prison. And Matt had, I think, one of the funniest things he's ever said. And he's like, I want to get a t-shirt that says, Rice Purity 1. Your pets are safe. So we're making.

Your pets are safe. We're going to make this t-shirt and all proceeds are going to go to Matt's rent to get out of that fucking apartment. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. shirt and all proceeds are going to go to matt's rent to get out of that fucking apartment thank you thank you yeah we just we need to we need people to submit pictures of their pets so that we can choose a pet because it needs to have a picture i should i wonder if i could do that on the shopify store which i need to just finally fucking release but the shopify store yeah dude merch it's all about merch we'll talk later man but i haven't said well i just

have two more that i have to put on but um it'd be cool if i could find a way to like all right this is the stock image put a picture of your pet on the back yeah like one of them getty images yeah yeah it's like i'd have the watermark like still has like the square white box around it that doesn't match the white t-shirt yeah it's like part of the art dude that's that's like i've had to learn all like the editing stuff and whatnot because my brother's designing most of the t-shirts um and like we're both learning as we go but i'm like dude how the fuck do i get rid of this white box and i think that's the beauty about doing this stuff yourself for a little while is you become extremely independent with it so i'm like i'm learning problem solving the beginning you

asked me january 1st last year this time last year and you looked at me goes hey man can you set up a can you do a three camera setup for a podcast record it sync everything edit it and all in the same day i'd be like you fucking crazy i don't even know what daunting yeah no clue now i'm like i don't even know where to start now it's i mean i got in a suitcase i'm like i'm up in 20 minutes it's cool it's it's rewarding now i'm at the point now where i would like someone else to do this for me because it takes too much of my time takes way too much of my time yeah i'm at i'm at a similar point in my career actually i'm i'm uh looking for an agent now um i just realized that if i had if i had someone doing all the emailing and being like yo like god we're like coming in from new york for for like the weekend and like trying to like get some gigs together like i want someone else to like take

care of that for me so that i can fucking practice for once well that's that's the thing is practice again the better you get actually how do i want to put this it's like money when people say money doesn't like buy happiness, and this is – I'm starting this off poorly, but like money buys you time. Oh, yeah. That's what school is. That's what college is. When you can pay for someone else to do – take up something that's like taking up some of your time, that's so worth it in my head. So like the minute someone – I can do this, and I give this to to Joe Schmo and I'm like, can you just have this edited by Wednesday?

And so Monday, Tuesday or the rest of the weekend, I don't have to worry about doing this. I can focus on other projects, which gives me more exposure instead of me doing this all week or on the weekends which I know I'm gonna have to do still for a while and I'm fine with that it's just it takes up time and so you can't do as much stuff it comes down to do you have the time to invest in the crafts upon which you're trying to make a living do it yeah are you spending more time like marketing yourself or like hustling for gigs or like producing content or like networking which is like a personal thing but if you're spending time doing all that and not spending a lot of time working on the thing that

you're just trying to do in the first place like a lot of a lot of entertainment and the arts is like not even doing the actual entertainment or art which sucks itself which sucks yeah which is terrible because like all that's that's my biggest beef with the gig economy well yeah but also it's i mean it that is the business it is it is trade-offs yeah like yeah there's no perfect way through this at all like everyone starts like this and i don't know you have to appreciate it and then then i think when people the only thing i could say is like when people recognize what's happening there's a greater appreciation for when you don't have to do things like edit or whatever and you can just you wake up like you know what i'm gonna do what what I basically want and what people are going to see instead of the behind-the-scenes shit.

Yeah, yeah. Let me get another Truly Cusky. Oh, absolutely, sir. Drinking me down, man. I'm such a creature of chemicals, man. Do you want pineapple or mango? Let's try mango. Okay.

So I want to – we'll probably go a little over an hour which is fine because the last couple 45 minutes this goes quick doesn't it yeah i i was like i was i've never done a podcast before well welcome it's cool i'm about it it's enjoyable when you do stuff like that well like we know each other so we can just hang out Which is way more fun for me When I kind of know you I can't wait to see how douchey I sound Because I always think that my voice

And I don't know if everyone can hear this Or maybe I just think this I'm unzipped now I always like Every time I hear my voice like on on playback or like like a recording of myself talking i'm like damn that kid like sounds like such a tool douche wow yeah i don't i think everyone has a personal opinion of their voice so you i think you think you sound douchey i mean i'll obviously i know you so i know you're not when

i first like i'm numb to it now so like oh yeah when i first listened to me and braxton doing tending a list i was like oh my it was like cringe worthy hearing us talk i'm like oh like i actually sound like that and i thought i sounded like a child totally um what were you like you were like 23 24 yeah at the. At the time. Yeah. 20. 22, 23. I started tending a list when I was 24. 24? Yeah.

Yeah. And then I started, I did my first couple podcasts that have never been released with Sam in Miami when I was 23. Dude, I want to go back and find those somewhere. They're on like a tablet somewhere. I did it with. Oh, you recorded like on garage band or something not even garage band like this is garage memo like voice memo oh it's like some weird uh free software that i'm like i didn't even know how it worked i was like i clicked so many buttons finally it was hitting recording and i saw both

the voices going i'm like we're good um yeah all right but um i'm numb to it now and i yeah i thought i was i saw i sounded younger but you you get if you listen to it enough it's bad but when i edit now i just treat it as like works i'm like i don't give a fuck how i sound totally that's how i feel about when i when i record something like musically i'm a trumpet player trumpet player and a pianist and a composer and shit. So, like, when I hear myself playing trumpet, I just, I don't know. Like, it is what it is. It just is what it is. I feel like it's probably easier when you hear, like, you know what a trumpet's supposed to sound like.

Yeah, yeah. Are you very, like, when you you hear, like, you know what a trumpet's supposed to sound like. Yeah, yeah. Are you very, like, when you hear yourself, like, played back, are you extremely, you're probably extremely critical of yourself, right? Yeah, definitely. things in different settings with different equipment with different people and different days and different points in my life there's no like good way or bad way there is good trumpet playing and bad trumpet playing there's something my mentor who gave me the grog is that what it's called glog grog glog glog one of them g and it starts with a G, ends with a G. The GG. We got that. We're drinking the GG.

Yeah, GG. Dap. But your mentor, yeah. Something he told me was that he said, no matter what, even if you think you sound terrible, sound terrible, you still have to be so good that no one can tell except you that you're off, or, like, something is wrong, or, like, that you screwed up, or, like, the feel is wrong, or, like, intonation, or whatever. It has to be so good that the only person that is critical or, like, can notice that something is wrong is yourself, And if the only person that thinks it's bad is you and everyone else is cool with it, like, what the fuck are you worried about? Exactly.

It's like a perfectionist trait, though, too. Like, you're still going to – you are your biggest critic. Everyone is their biggest critic. And I don't know. By the way, how much time do you have left at school there? You've only done a year, right? I did a – I just finished my first semester. Oh, first semester.

So I have three more semesters. So it's a two-year program? Yeah. What is the ultimate goal? Or if there's not an ultimate goal, what would be like a... Like a dream gig? Like a bucket list project gig. I want to score a movie like a like a major

film like what kind of movie like an avengers movie and inception uh i would i would dance i would love to do something like really avant-garde but still like in the public eye like kind of you know that remember Joker do you ever see the Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix yeah very good there's this cellist I forget her name but she's Eastern European and she's great and she did the whole score and it is the most riveting score that I've heard recently in a mainstream film and it's regarded. I think she won, like, an Oscar for it.

Like, best original score. Those are the kind of, like, if I ever watch an award show, that stuff goes over my head because I don't understand it. And there's so much, like, to the Grammys that they, like, don't show a lot of categories. They only show, like, and Dua Lipa won again or whatever. Former of the year. Gorgeous girl. Absolutely. No, no. Dude. Oh, man. show like and Dua Lipa won again or whatever the year you know gorgeous girl uh no no dude oh man was no that was Doja Cat that did the um I don't even know who Doja Cat is that sounds like a YouTube channel I thought Dua Lipa and Doja Cat were the same person there for a sec but well I don't think I'll ever have Doja Cat on here so whatever shoot for the stars man i had another

question literally what like you say i'm on guard is that something like uh because i'm trying to remember back to when i studied film in college not well um like grand budapest hotel do you know what that movie is yeah yeah with um what's his name no idea but do you like stuff like that that kind of movie like a chug where like the the i mean music i don't think people realize makes such like if you eliminated music in every movie every movie would be significantly different absolutely music like like actually look at it next time you watch a movie yeah not you but you, but other people. Yeah. Try to. And you can find it.

You can find versions of movies with the score removed. And it's just like text. It's dry. Dialogue is dry. And the thing about music is that you can show one thing on stage. Stage. And have the actors saying things and dialogue. And they're saying something. But the music says something totally

different and that like you know music it builds suspense it creates a surprise subversion horror comedy it's i mean it is an integral part of movies film it used to not always it used to not always be that way so the first time they like had music in a film, like people weren't buying it because they couldn't see the orchestra playing the music. So they were like, where is this music coming from? Like, this doesn't make any sense. Like, we don't understand. Like at that point, like there they would show a movie like a soundless movie and there'd be like a piano player playing like in the theater. and there'd be like a piano player playing like in the theater you know like one of them like honky tonk ass pianos like doing the score along with it because they didn't have like audio and

video like at the same time at that point so once they did people were like we don't buy this what like just like is it a bunch of ghosts playing music right now or something like what what is this it took a while it took a while for people to like accept it as like a part of media and now it's huge i mean it's everything now people well now people are like i want the soundtrack even the soundtrack to like guardians of the galaxy i mean yeah oh it might not be a classic but yeah you see how important that is to the movie and how much people like it that's a dream gig man compilingiling music for media, choosing songs and stuff. Not just writing it, but choosing songs that people like

or songs that they don't know that they like yet. I would enjoy doing that. Everyone would enjoy doing that. When you go work out and you're in the mood. Let's say it's Friday. It's sunny outside. It's spring, about to be summer or fall fall perfect day okay i'm setting the mood here you are in the greatest mood possible and you're like i want to play a song while i'm working out

and i'm like that's what you're doing you're basically creating a soundtrack soundtrack for your life yeah exactly that's that i gotta tell you about this shit later, man. That's like how I'm trying to market some of this some of this trance music I'm writing right now. It's pretty much like. Your eyes are the movie camera. And. Your butt is the movie seat. And your legs are like. the camera track or whatever. And my music is the soundtrack.

That might have been the most high comment you've had all day. But I completely understand what you're saying. Yeah. No, it's important. Like, I'm looking forward to when we turn this off in ten minutes that we can put music on. Well, I have two things. Well, hold on. Do you have the thing you wanted to bring up?

What thing? You said you had a bit. That was it. That was it? Okay. I was so scared to say you have a bit because then it would have just ruined whatever. Okay, so I want you to tell one story. Okay.

And then I'll have one question for you. I hope I can remember it. You can. Okay. Was it recently? Yeah. How recently? You're in New York.

Oh, yeah. You know where I'm going with this? No. Okay. I was with Jake a couple months ago, and we you we're on the way up to Michigan I think and you text me even before I think you're like I have a story I gotta tell you and I was in the car with Jake and he's like Matt has something you would love to hear he met some at at guy or whatever on the street and he got food with him that you might know do you remember

meeting a famous comedian and getting food with them yeah man oh man i know the comedian's name if you need the name i remember it man you remember the whole story i do let's hear it because this was crazy from like someone who's like in love with comedy and all this stuff. Like this is, this would be like such a surreal night, but also it's the most like as a fan of this comic, it makes sense.

And I wouldn't, I almost wouldn't have wanted it past them. No, I wouldn't put it past them no i wouldn't put it past him and i wouldn't have expected the interaction to go any other way i mean i'm a little surprised don't get me wrong but it was it was a cool story i was like that's fucking dope i also thought it was hysterical that jake couldn't say the name and people often refer to this person is like one of the best oh yeah like easily like he's like the cool uncle of yeah jewish comedy he really is yeah it's a decent way to put it i guess um

man i he'll never hear this no who cares if he does i mean why would he be upset? I mean, he willingly. I wonder if he does this to everybody. Maybe he does. Maybe I'm just another victim. I wouldn't say victim. Let's not do that in the world of canceling comedians. I was a victim of getting pizza. But no, tell everybody. Like, it's a short story.

Yeah, it's not too long. It's not too long. The preface is way longer than the story itself. I was in the West Village in New York City because I live in New York City. I'm an artist in New York City. That's where I live. And I left. I was at Smalls until at that point they were only open until like 1 in the morning.

They're back to being open until like 3, 4 in the morning now. They used to be open until like 6 in the morning they're back to being open to like three four in the morning now they used to be open to like six in the morning um pre-covid which was cool um but they closed to like one 1 30 or so just left i was just uh by myself at that point just walking around doing doing my thing and i walked past like washington square park like by the arch or whatever. Like, down. There's a couple roads. I forget the name of the road, man. Doesn't matter.

It's where the Comedy Cellar is, which is the club, in my opinion. Like, you're not going to see names at other clubs like you're gonna see at the Cellar. And I'm just, like, loitering for some reason. Like, I don't know. Just... I'm a weird fucking guy, okay? I just... I like loitering on the street and, like, people watching a lot.

I think that's a big allure for me living in new york and just watching people like leave the club i like didn't know who was playing the club or whatever and then a little a little man in a in a black hat and a black bomber jacket comes out i'm like oh fuck here we go it's fucking dave attell walks out of the comedy cellar i'm like okay like this is okay this is your turf you know that special he had with with uh jeff ross yeah yeah bumping mics for you dave um so he walks out and he's like talking to people and there's not a lot of people like on the sidewalk you know he's just like making conversation and he's like he's like he looks at me he's like yo like what's up like what's your name i'm like what's up my name is dave attell you said that yeah

and he thought he he was like okay okay um so we just like gets talking and he's like ripping some ciggies like he does, you know? And there's this other comedian that's, like, hanging with him, like, just, like, picking his brain. I'm, like, I'm not bothering them too much because it's, like, their world. Like, if there was a comedian that came to, like, Smalls and I'm, like, trying to, like, talk to, like, Sullivan Fortner or someone famous or something and, like, try to pick their brain, I wouldn't want some comedian to be like being annoying. Hey man, what's up?

Yeah. No, I was just vibing. Yeah. I was just vibing, you know? And then Dave's like, come on, let's go to Joe's like, fuck it. Let's go to Joe's. I'm hungry. So Dave bought me a slice of pepperoni pizza.

I don't know why I left. I mean is the whole story but like that is cool like it I think a lot of people like you see celebrities you're like I wonder what they're like in real life and I think that the reason I like that story so much it was like it was literally just a night it was nothing special it was like a weeknight we got pizza and left that was it yeah that's I mean I I love that I thought it was hysterical I thought it was nothing special it was like a weeknight we got pizza and left that was it yeah that's i mean i i love that i thought it was hysterical i thought it was funny and so funny man the funniest part about it was surreal when we were in the car i mean like he met some comedian guy he's like dave and you were like not he was like dave uh i'm like i'm like what who are you i'm like i don't know what

dave at and then called you he goes yeah i met david tell i'm like you dumb shit i showed him bumping mics too really i showed everyone bumping like bumping mics when i saw that man i was like this is they're like they're not afraid to be old white guys. Some old white guys are afraid. It's also, it's comedy. Why not? True. Why not?

Okay. We're going to end with this. We can put on some music. Um, so I didn't ask Jake this last time. Uh, cause I forgot. That's all right.

Um, but this season's question at the end, um, the only time I try and be serious at all during these for the most part. Is your mic on, by the way? Oh, it is, yeah. Okay. I just –

I turned mine off. I know how Gane works. Yeah. Not Jake Gane. Hi, Jake Gane. He doesn't work. Gane does not work. Like, you know, just the line.

As long as the line is flat then you don't have to worry about my microphone like bleeding it's well the problem is like it depends on this too so i i had it set to uh whatever the other one was and jake's mic wouldn't move yesterday or two days ago so i'm like i don't know if his is on so i'm constantly doing this i'm like put the mic to your mouth dude um so the last or the question for this season is what do you live by oh what's why i live by so is there a quote is there a movie that you saw that like influenced you to be like this is how i want to live my life the rest of my life is there is it a family thing is it a motto motto? Is it, I don't know, did you see an inspirational thing on the wall in fifth grade that just said confidence and a whale?

But what, like, what would be, if you had to pick one thing that you'd say embodies your attitude? I thought it was going to be like, all right, fuck, marry, kill. The fucking, the queen, the pope. This is like the serious side of me i genuinely like okay like okay i'm with i'd like to know how people work i genuinely want to understand how people think and work and what motivate because we all go through different like i have different aspirations than you do we might have like in the venn diagram of things we kind of meet in the middle a little bit um in terms of entertainment but i want to

know why you do what you do why do you get up why are you why do you tick um why do you tick the way you tick there's there's something to be said about the past there's something to be said about the future um there's a quote there's a quote i like a lot um one of my heroes dizzy gillespie trumpet player the guy that's like this you know everyone knows that cat i do not but i'm gonna look him up dizzy i'll show you a track um but he said as long as you keep one foot in the past and one foot in the future, you'll be okay. And then I realized,

yeah, as long as you keep your dick and balls in the present. Oh, that's getting taken down off. Tick tock later. Oh, definitely. Definitely.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm edgy. Yeah, what are you going to do about it? All right, so that's where you live by, dicking balls in the present. I like it. Something about tradition, man. Not in like a neoconservative Fox News way,

but just like there's a reason traditions exist. There's a reason that human beings have done a lot of the same shit over and over because it works and you don't have to push boundaries all the time listen to old people talk they don't know how the fucking internet works but does it matter like what really matters what really matters i think that's different for every person i try and think of a new one for me each week like little things i have yet to come up with a new one except for this did i even answer your question yeah i like i've cracked a joke and like no i think people are valid you cracked a joke but i think you were also serious with like oh yeah if you if you have you keep the past in your mind and you look forward

to the future you're probably going to be you're there in the present if you're doing the splits you're your head's right in the middle um i said this to someone this week, and I've thought about it a lot over the years, and I think I truly mean this one. There he is. Hey, man, we're in the serious moment of this podcast. Can I call you back in two minutes? Yeah, good timing, bro. Yeah, you can come over.

It's his apartment. Yeah, this is your apartment. You can do whatever you want. Why can't we go over? All right, I I gotta hang out Bye Well that just ruined the moment So the quote I was gonna say

Is my own Wait should we like Pause For the cut I'm not cutting this shit Okay But I did say We do that in the studio

All the time Is uh Freeze I would personally Me In terms of what I wanna do I would much rather Live, in terms of what I want to do, I would much rather live my life than survive it. Totally.

What is comfort? It scares me. Oh, it's scary. The idea of not being able to grow. I would much rather look for an experience. There's balance to everything but the idea of going through the motions for the rest of my life just to be either financially secure or just like feel comfortable with where i am scares the living shit out of me the idea of not taking a risk the

idea of yeah just like the whole like because because you can't you can't live with potential energy inside of you it truly scares you you'll like combust if you if you like know that you have potential to be great and you're acting upon it and like practicing it and like working on it. Like I feel the same way musically. Like if I had quit, if I had just like went to like Wisconsin business or whatever, like out of high school and like fucking, I probably would have joined SIGGAP and like done that.

Thanks man. No man. Like I could have had a totally different like every choice that i've made thus far has been me choosing okay what will be fulfilling to me like on my creative pursuit like whatever that means like every day i wake up every day i hustle for gigs and try to get better at music I'm rolling the dice boom every day it's a gamble every being a creative and trying to like get into like entertainment industry you are gambling every fucking day yeah I I'm new to those thoughts within the last three

years I will fully admit that because before that I had no fucking clue and I was just like I just want to be able to have an apartment and hang out with my friends on the weekends i didn't fully understand like this is who i am this is what i want to do yeah but it's no it's it's fun i like it so genuinely there's nothing more fulfilling like don't be wrong like i always want to say i'm not entirely money motivated don't be wrong i would like a shit ton of money that'd be great of course but i'm more so experienced motivated the idea of like to have like when you're a kid you're like how cool would it be if one day you saw me here you saw me here i gotta go here i gotta do this there like that's what motivates me not i have a lot of money in a house and i hang out the same

four people on the weekends and there's nothing wrong with that at all everyone has different aspirations in life but like that's what makes me tick right now the thing of it is you can either you can either that is alcohol you can either get a real job and like like I I bet a lot of our friends are gonna like gonna own houses someday I already have friends that own houses. I'm never going to have – I'm probably going to live on rent unless I really make it, which – See you in two years, everyone. If I really make it, maybe, maybe then I'll be able to own real estate.

If you really make it, you could own a house. Totally. But at this rate – I would never say – I've learned that. Never say never with this shit because you have no fucking clue true dude i was in middle school and i hated i was like out of school i'm never doing public speaking again i'm literally talking to three cameras right now and you're gonna go perform to people in about two hours like it's you don't know things change for sure yep um and what needs to change is we need to turn these off and yeah i need to change into regular pants oh my god i have two hours before

i even need to be anywhere i'm going to be drunk during this yeah man are you thinking you might go on stage you might try it out yeah i really do Alright That'll be fun Alright thank you for doing this Totally I'm gonna bump one more time Let's bump him This is for Dave Hi Dave I'm gonna stare into the camera

Until it turns off