Fat Chance Podcast - Ep.62 - Brandon Wein

Episode Date: September 8, 2022

Brandon is a local Milwaukee Comedian as well as the CoHost of the You Broke It Show

We're good? Oh yeah, that burped. Thank God. You are tired, dude. I got hurt, aren't I? Alright, let's go. Grab my beer. Where's mine? Do you need one? I have no idea.

Yours is right next to you. Oh, okay. Yeah. I am a little out of it. What do you think of Land... Have you ever had Landshark? Yeah. It's my favorite light beer, I think. Is it really?

Yeah. I don't think it's a bad beer. It's a less skunky Corona. I talked about it a bad beer. It's a less skunky Corona. I talk about it with Devin. It's a less skunky Corona. You put a lime in it? Yeah, it'd be perfect. Devin asked for a lime last time.

My roommate just goes, I have them, but not for you. Yeah. It's like, what do you mean? He goes, I'm taking them up north to make margaritas. I'm like, I think we could have gotten you new ones. Yeah. But it is what it is. You ever had a High Life with a lemon?

I think you made me do that once. It's not bad. I like it. I think it's a great summer drink. I don't know what my favorite summer drink would be. Every once in a while, if it's warm, a Summer Shandy sounds so good. I agree. But I can't have more than one or two of them.

I can do two max and then done. It's so much sugar. It's a lot of sugar. And then your mouth. I don't like them in like one or two. I can do two max and then done. It's so much sugar. It's a lot of sugar. And then your mouth. I don't like when I'm like. Like these like that stickiness from the sugar. These are light where it's obviously not water, but it doesn't leave a taste in your mouth. Yeah.

Versus which is kind of like vodka sodas, too, where it's basically just water and vodka. Yeah. I mean, it is water and vodka. It is. I can't do sugar anymore. I just. and vodka yeah i mean it is water vodka it is i can't do sugar anymore i just i'm trying to cut it out it's it's uh it's hard everything in our world has sugar in it now we're americans are addicted to sugar yeah so much i mean you go anywhere else in the world the same like dessert has significantly less sugar and we're like this doesn't taste this good it's like well it's because it doesn't have a cup of sugar in it.

We are addicted to it through and through. And, I mean, I am too. I have a sweet tooth big time. You're a dessert guy? Yes and no. I think if you made me choose, I would go salty over sweet. But if you give me a good sweet, I'm like, oh, boy. The only thing I love is ice cream.

Really? I'm a bitch for ice cream thing I love is ice cream really I'm bitch for ice cream dude it's I don't know what it is it's just see I I think we're spoiled but we have custard here yeah obviously well I include that in yeah okay custard yeah always any form of ice cream yeah every once in a while I'll get like a hankering for ice cream but I kind of like ice cream as it's something with ice cream. So like birthday parties growing up, it's like cake and ice cream. Yeah. I was like, I always liked the ice cream more than I like the cake.

I think cake is overrated. I'm not a frosting person. Overall, I just think it's an overrated, overrated pastry or dessert. I would agree. I would agree. It's my favorite dessert is hot apple pie and ice cream though yeah they just pair well it's different textures different heats it's i had a so i had a question for you so we were talking on uh my podcast about we were talking about like worst

first dates i know i was curious what your worst first date was. Dude, I actually tried making this a bit the other week. Kind of. Like, I think I do well with parents. Except for the first impression. It's never gone well. So I want to say my worst first date. So I've actually technically only been on, besides the girlfriend I have now, I've really only been on one date. The other was like high school. You've only been on, besides the girlfriend I have now, I've really only been on one date.

You've only been on one date? Kind of, yeah. And I think I nailed it. But other than that, it was like a high school relationship. Didn't have a car, couldn't really go anywhere. We just hung out at each person's house. Yeah. But the first time I was going to go on, I guess a double date,

we'll call it. We were going to go to a movie with another couple and I was meeting them at my girlfriend's house. Okay. First of all, my mom has to drop me off. So not looking real cool. They're all in the basement.

I text her. I'm like, I'm here. I go to ring the doorbell, and her mom answers. And you know like storm doors and screen doors? So like storm doors, the glass, screen door, you can punch through it. It's a screen door between me and her. And I'm like, hi, I'm here for so-and-so.

She just stared at me. Like no words, just for a good minute. And I'm like, I don't know what to say. I'm like, my name is Michael. I'm here for, like, we're going on a date. And then nothing. Then I started being like, I think she's in your house. Like, she's in the basement.

I was like, are you going to say? She just, like, if you turn the lights off and saw her in the corner of her room, you gonna say she just like if you turn the lights off and saw her in the corner of her room you'd be like this place is haunted it was so fucking creepy five minutes of nothing just me rambling i'm like we're going to a movie alissa and brian are downstairs i'm five foot eight so you were bombing with the mom i was bombing with the mom i was literally just like word vomiting and she was not buying any of it. She's like, you're not funny. I'm like, I'm not trying to be. I'm trying to get inside.

Yeah. And finally her daughter came. I was like, mom, you can talk. And it was almost like that turned her on. She's like, oh, hi, how are you? Are you fucking kidding me right now? NPC. She was an NPC.

I was like glitch in the system. I truly believe that there are NPCs in this world. Like I believe everybody has humanity and deserves respect. But like some people i just don't think are all there oh absolutely my favorite video i've seen of that is i think it's a tiktok where it's like i'm gonna prove you no one's actually real in this world he like walked in to a laundromat and was like hey did you hear danny devito got an only fans and the person behind the counter's like no way really like yeah you got only fans it's like you gotta check it out it's pretty cool and then like oh It was like, hey, did you hear Danny DeVito got an OnlyFans? And the person behind the counter was like, no way, really? We're like, yeah, he got an OnlyFans. It's like, you got to check it out.

It's pretty cool. And then, like, oh, my God, really? He goes, yeah, crazy. And I was like, thank you. Thank you. Have a nice day. Handed him Monopoly money, then left. He goes, I didn't even need anything.

I didn't pay for anything. I gave him Monopoly money, then left. And they're like, all right, have a nice day. Like, just let the interaction go. Like, this is phenomenal. Did you know Aristotle wrote about that? He wrote that there's tiers of levels of souls, essentially. And people have different levels of souls within them that allow them to have different levels of conscientiousness.

Essentially, before our time, he was saying that there are literal NPCs in this world that just don't have the same consciousness as some people. They need to be like upgraded. Like, yeah, I thought that was I was like looking at that because I bought that book because my friend told me about it because I thought that that's extremely interesting that even back then he was like, that is I don't think some of these people are here. It's like one of those things. Let's say you're playing your play Super Smash Bros or Mario Kart or something like that.

So you log into the Super Smash Bros screen. It's like's like all right it player one like that's you consciousness yeah it's like four computer players but your buddy wants to play like all right let's put consciousness in that one yeah that's kind of they're just waiting for someone to yeah i also think weird thought i've had there's a finite number of like souls we're just constantly cycling through like we are living constantly that's essentially what he was saying was that yeah that some people just don't have their their very low level like energy and they just don't yeah that's i haven't finished it yet but it the initial concept that to me was super interesting yeah that's crazy that even like a famous philosopher was like i just don't think everybody's i think we've been struggling with the same questions about the nature of our being forever it's just in different words and

terms i agree would you want to know the answers to everything i don't know i feel like that indiana jones thing would happen where you just melt away because you just can't handle it i don't think i'd want to know because then there's no point yeah like if someone's like all right here's the end like why would i race yeah kind of thing well that's what uh alan watts kind of says once once you're once you've figured out what you want in life and then you you hit this point of like where you don't know what your desire is and then essentially your desirelessness and that's like the beginning point of like figuring things out is once you don't know what you want anymore like he he says i'm gonna butcher this so hard.

He says in life, you try to figure out what you want. And then essentially, once you realize that you don't want that, like a lot of people say once they become successful, they feel empty and hollow. Like, did they really want this? And then their desirelessness. I'm fucking butchering this so bad. I don't know if you'll ever listen to Alan Watts at all. He's no, he's like a theological philosopher. He essentially talks about the point of life, dissects Buddhism, Christianity, evolution,

and just the world we're going to. And he had a philosophy that I thought was super interesting. He goes, you ever look at the stars and just think, what if all the stars are just planets that have exploded, that we're all just Earths, and we're all just working our way towards the end of our existence yeah you know what i'm like eventually we're just going to keep climbing to the point like he he he uh he what's the word when when you like uh not prophesize but when you when you essentially call that a lot of things that have happened in society and he thinks he thinks that eventually we're just going to nuke ourselves off.

Why am I blanking on that word? Yeah, I can't think of it either. He predicted a lot of stuff. He predicted, yeah, that's like the elementary version. I know exactly what you're talking about. The people are like, I can see the future kind of thing. Yeah, well, he just looks at what we were going, and he just said we're just continually working towards uh towards essentially extincting ourselves through through bombs wars and and everything my big thing is

like do you believe when you die it's the end no no i don't either simply because i want you to comprehend nothing right yeah well that's what he says comprehend nothing that's what he says he says i want you he says i think everybody That's what he says. He says I want you He says I think everybody in their life should at one point Close their eyes and picture what it's like When you die picture like nothing there is nothing. It's like how can energy become nothing? I mean, that's the main rule of science is energy. What is it mass? Can't you cannot be created in order to yeah nor destroyed my favoritebuttal to that is like then where the fuck did it come from that's well that's why i

believe in god i'm writing a joke about this right now which is like people believe in things like astrology and evolution but like that it doesn't that doesn't make sense like people give me crap for believing in god but i'm like dude if evolution was in the bible no one would believe that shit you know what i'm saying what to believe they wouldn't believe it like you mentioned witnessing believing in God. But I'm like, dude, if evolution was in the Bible, no one would believe that shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what to believe in. They wouldn't believe it. Like you mentioned witnessing to somebody like, yeah, dude, in the beginning there was a boom and then space and space chilled. It chilled for a while. Yeah. And then pow, dolphins. And you're like, well, where the fuck did dolphins? No, they used to be smaller dolphins. You mean like babies? Like no different smaller dolphins. And you're just like, what the fuck are you? No, they used to be smaller dolphins. You mean like babies? Like, no, different smaller dolphins.

And you're just like, what the fuck are you talking about? You can't comprehend it. I like the simulation theory, but then also when you think simulation theory, like, all right, how far back does it go? Yeah. Because it's simulation theory says, like, if technology grows at the rate it is, which is exponential. Yeah. VR is going to get so good that we will not be able to distinguish reality from virtual reality then all of a sudden it's like are we in that now like are we we could be are we actually just this melted pile of bone somewhere with a headset on that

would explain npcs dude and then yeah but then all right so it's then there's that inception thing like all right you're a person inside of a person. And it also just shows how unadaptable we are because if we keep doing the VR thing, it's just a constant loop. It's like a Hot Wheels track that's just doing this. I think life is cycles. It's like the circles. Oh, my God, yeah. What blows my mind is I've met girls that believe in astrology and evolution,

and that makes no sense. There's no continuity there. Like Darwin was writing Natural Selection, and he was like, well, you know mammals have hairs because they're such Sagittarius. It makes no sense that you can believe in both. To me, it doesn't. No, I think believing,

I think it's good for people to believe in something. I think people who believe in both things are just trying to be right in everything. Like they want to be on the good side of everything. Like, listen, you're not always going to be right. You're not always going to be on the correct side of everything. I think that's what's ruined our world is this idea that you have to not offend people. And it's amazing that just having ideas – Oh, that's what's ruined our our world is this idea that you have to not offend people and and it's amazing that just having ideas that's part of it well just having ideas and beliefs offend people like i've had people get mad at me i was like yeah i believe in god how do you believe

in god it's just like well because i just don't believe that there's nothing i don't believe that that intelligent life form can be derived from nothing that a chair could be created out of out of nothing you know what i mean like somebody had to build that it's my thoughts the fact that people like okay we can't be offended we can't we all need to have the same system yeah i'm a firm believer in the walk the line philosophy as in there needs to be both people now can some outliers the outrage the outrage like racism and all that shit like obviously the big ones should go away but different beliefs are good because if we all have the same belief 100 we all felt the same way if you are never sad

if you're never sad you can't be happy let's you need one without the other life yeah there is you're you just are then there is no life you just are if everything was just it's not good yeah think of it like a tightrope well good only exists because bad exists exactly yeah happy and sad good bad it's you need both you it's a. Think of it like a tightrope. Sooner or later, if you just got across, you're watching someone do a tightrope, and they just walked across, no problem. You're like, that was fucking boring. You know what you want to see?

You want to see someone sway a little left, then go a little right there, and then kind of even themselves out for a bit, and then it happens again. A wind comes. Like, that's life. That's what Alan Watts says. He says the only The only joy in life Is surprise Exactly

He's like but the problem is We get afraid Because we don't know What does a good surprise Look like Because most of us think Surprises are negative Someone dies

Something like that But it's like good surprises Can happen too Like I got a guest set At the Laughing Tap yesterday That was a great surprise Did it go well? It was okay

Light attendance I think just cause You know It's still nice out. Nice out. Thursday. Yeah. Mitch Vettel, hilarious, dude.

Oh, I used to watch him growing up. So funny. So funny, dude. Well, that's a cool experience for you, then. I know it was. I mean, I'm always happy to get opportunity. It's how you get better. Yeah.

Everything is just how you get better. No, I agree. That's awesome. We started with, what is your summer drink yeah and then we went into first dates and then we ended up with what is the purpose of life essentially that's a common theme on this one though i do too it's my favorite i think we're stupid as fuck honestly so it's funny that we talk about it but when i first met my girlfriend we would have like longer talks and one of the questions goes, if you could have one question answered, or I don't know if I asked, if you could have one question answered, though, what would it be?

One question that – not like, oh, I want to know everything, just like one specific thing. If I could have one question answered. Yeah. if I could have one question answered, yeah, it would, it would be, I think it would,

it would be as God real is Christianity real because I think it, it really dictates my belief system and, and, and a lot. And I, I don't know, maybe I would be lost without it, but, but to know,

to know if that's true or not i think would would really dictate how i would live my life past that yeah you know that's fair no i think if i think a lot of people would ask that one and then if the answer was no it'd be some upheaval like chaos because then you don't know people you take someone's complete belief system away like all right what am i doing here then yeah mine would be why me so like i've only ever known what it's like to be me why am i in control of this body yeah like why is this my consciousness well have you heard the at least this is my understanding of like the Buddhist philosophy, which is like, I believe they believe in some level of reincarnation. And I believe what they believe is that we are God discovering itself.

Right. Because like another thing I'm going to keep quoting this man. Watch says if you would dream to dream. Right. And you dream this dream. You could dream whatever dream you wanted to dream. Right. And you'd start by like maybe

slaying dragons or or or you know having house parties being rich and famous and then after a while you would keep dreaming dreams and you would change the dreams and alter the dreams because you could have whatever you wanted and inevitably you would dream to the point where you are sitting exactly where you're sitting because the only the only thing that would be left to do was to experience what not having control would look like okay i like that isn't that interesting that's very interesting because like the only way that god if he could have everything he has could be to actually experience good bad surprise is to actually put himself in a situation where he loses control and then see what happens throughout all these beings yeah that's crazy isn't it yeah

that's why i love dude i'm telling you listen to alan watts his shit is it's it's beyond he talks about there's so many thoughts in my head i don't need to add a thousand more dude it's it's it's crazy to me like that when he said that i was like that that is crazy because like think about how accomplished you'll feel i mean how accomplished did you feel when selena reposted that and you started getting i mean you already had what 15,000 followers nine nine nine but i mean that's still very impressive dude i mean i'm working every day towards trying to create content and it's a struggle to it's a struggle one to do it and then struggle two to actually get any traction so it's like to be at the point where you're at

70 000 followers that has to feel good after everything you put into it it does um i feel like a sham i also know it's dumb luck um that's the game now dude it it's a game i am not good at accepting compliments i'm not good at accepting compliments. I'm not good at talking myself up. Every once in a while you're feeling yourself. Yeah. But, I don't know, it's just one of those things. Eventually I would like, now that I have a following that I feel comfortable with,

I will do my own personal stuff and I can start putting, tagging my stand up in there, which is great. But, no, it felt good felt good it was it's one of those things that's so surreal yeah you don't know how to feel like the amount of messages i got when that happened like dude this is awesome don't forget about i'm like all right chill with it don't forget about this thing like let us know what she says you know i'm like that's not how this works we're not gonna be pen pals now no i'm sure I'm sure she didn't even respond. You commented at the bottom. Yeah, I was just like, hey, do you want to come on now? I figured, you know what, I have to say that.

You gotta. And I know she's not going to look at it. I mean, she's on a yacht in Greece. Do you think she's going to be like, yeah, Michael. Dude, the power behind that. Imagine just being famous and sexy to the point you just post a three-second clip of somebody. And it has 20-some million views. You've altered.

It's insane. That is crazy. Someone told me, like, hey, your voice will come out of Selena Gomez's mouth one day. I'd be like, you can kick rocks. Yeah. But when it happened, I genuinely thought I felt bad because i wasn't excited because i didn't know how to feel because when that happened i was like i don't think this is really gonna do much what really happened was the next video i posted which went nuts and then everyone gave me comments i'm

like you're way happier than i am yeah like i always it bothered me because i was like all right how can i capitalize on this instead of enjoying it but it shows it just shows people too it's like look nobody was messaging you after all the work you were doing up until that point yeah you know what i mean sorry i messaged you as well but no i talk at least once a week yeah i i i've always tried to support like i was happy when you showed up in the comedy scene because i don't know if this is a usable thing because i'm not trying to shit talk but it's like prior prior to to you it's like i was the only one who's trying to create content in the scene and i'm not trying to like up like and people were giving me shit for it yeah you know

calling me gay and shit like that's common oh comedy. Oh, I got it, too. It was like, what, before people listened to you? I'm like, you still came on the show. Dude, because people don't want to do the work. And then now, look, all these comics in the scene are posting clips on TikTok. They're posting shit because it's like, yeah, you got to play the game. My dream is to become a comedian. My dream is to have people laugh at me listen to me like come see me and

it's like i don't want to be some important person i just want to have some fun and i want to have bring some joy to people people's lives my number one thing is i i started this for two reasons to build the confidence to get on stage and to just genuinely have fun. And I said at the very beginning, I said, at the end of the day, if this amounts to nothing, I'm going to do it whenever I'm ready. I'm going to keep doing it as long as I'm having fun. And at the end of the day, when I'm older, I have hours and hours of footage for me and my friends to look back on

and be like, do you realize all this stupid shit we did in my mom's garage or this apartment? You've like, Oh, you inspired me, man. You inspired me to start my podcast.

I mean, I was doing the vlog, I was doing shorts, but you inspired me to say like, why am I not dabbling in this as well? Like, I feel like you should dabble in everything and figure out what you like and what you want to do.

Try things. I think that's, it's a big thing. Just try things. And it's fun. I did a podcast before this and failed well didn't fail it was uh the co-host quit and so then i was like oh just do it myself why not it was fun i like it and i get i like meeting new people and stuff

like that i mean obviously you've been on here before but eventually i hope one day i get to have like shit big big name people on yeah it'd be cool fuck me i know yeah fuck you fuck me honestly it'd be nice to be like hey this is my podcast but if you guys could just talk and i'm not on it that'd be great no it's like hey michael you know my name yeah it's it's one of those things where and i don't it sounds so it sounds like i'm lying i a big-name person would do well for this, but there are also just people I genuinely think would be fun to talk to. Be so fun. Like this.

I'm glad. I said it with Devin on Tuesday this week when we recorded one. I want to get back to doing this on Fridays because I have a short day. I go get my ass kicked by Avery. By the way, the last two weeks He has been a fucking dick Yeah It's just 45 straight minute sessions

The first one was just kickboxing Today was just rolling Just what? Just rolling We wrestled for 45 straight minutes I have three classes with him And I have not used them I've been a lazy piece of crap

But I like the Friday one. Cause then, all right, I've, I've worked out. I feel good. It's Friday. It's summer right now.

It feels good. Like this is when like I, they were picking up last year in the garage. Dude, I'm going to have a few drinks with you and then I'm going to go do standup tonight. Yeah. And it's like,

this is a good Friday. This is a good day. Yeah. And you feel good going into comedy too. It's great. And you're just like, all right, this is a good friday this is a good day yeah and you feel good going into comedy too it's great you're just like all right i got a good attitude i had a good day so i'm glad i'm glad you were like leah let's do it do you i'm just trying to do you have to be again tonight i don't do you want to you're doing a high note most likely jack hit me up to hang out so i was like i might go hang out with jack why don't you have him come down here and we can walk

there for me you know jack's busy and he's trying to get back he does have a plan to get back into comedy but he's just a busy guy yeah you know but well he's engaged yeah i mean my my thought is just like if this is what i want to do i have to prioritize it that's why i'm not going to say no it's like every opportunity is that an opportunity so it's like this might get no views it might get a ton but either so it's like i'm going to get a little bit better. I can now officially say I know it's going to get views. All right. Which is cool.

All right. I told you. All it took was me. It grew. It grew from the thing, which was – I was worried when that happened. I was like, all right, is this going to translate into people actually listening? I know it's not going to translate at the scale that one short video did, but is it going to make a jump? And I just, I hate looking at numbers, but I just, I was like, I got to look.

And I was like, holy shit, people are going to listen to this. It's kind of cool. Hell yeah, man. I was like, this, this feels good. And now it puts pressure back on me. It's like, all right, try and get one of these out every week yeah but that's where i'm at dude it's also trying to force me because i had a question with greg or a conversation with greg at laughing tap i'm terrible at asking people for stuff yeah

and he just looked me up and dead in the eyes he goes quit comedy then i was like really he goes you're gonna need to put your like ask for things yeah Yeah. It's good. I was like, okay, fair. If you don't. Which is why I asked you on Thursday. I've never, I hate, I never want to be the guy that's like, he put my name in the bucket. Yeah. But I was like, if you know the person I'm going to text him,

put my name in the bucket. And I was like. No, I was doing a guest at the one time. Yeah, I know. So I just, but I know you sort of. So like, but I need to ask people and I'm going to ask more people to do this. Yeah. Hey man, I live by the philosophy.

If you don't ask, you don't get. Exactly. I mean, there's a level. You can't be the guy who's messaging them every week, every day, like, hey. Like, there's persistence. You need to be persistent. Yeah. But you also need to be working at it.

If you're not working at it, whatever you want to do, and then you're asking. My favorite quote is, one of my favorite quotes is by Les. I was going to ask you that. What is your all-time favorite quote? One of them, I don't know, there's a lot of them. I mean, there's some Bible verses I like, but one of motivational-wise is better, is by Les Brown. He's a motivational speaker. And he says, better to be prepared and not have an opportunity than to have an opportunity and not be prepared.

Yes. All right. Yeah, that just makes sense. Yeah. But so many people don't think that. So many people think that it's just going to happen. You're not going to have to eat crap. I ate crap my first damn near two years in comedy.

I'm still eating crap. I eat crap on a weekly basis. But I'm saying I didn't get the feeling of, holy crap, I actually just made people laugh. I could be funny for almost two years doing comedy. Comics weren't really fans of me. Like I have a list in my notebook where I write down every negative thing someone said to me about how I'm not funny, how I'm not going to make it, how I'm not going to make money at this. And it doesn't mean I don't like that person. Some of them are my friends.

But I write it down. I write it down in my notebook. And I look at it and I go, well, watch me. Watch me. Watch me crush a guest set at the improv, which I just did. Watch me get opportunity. It's going to take time. I'm not trying to rush it, but ultimately, I want to do this.

I want to do this since I was eight years old. I wanted to be a comedian. You ever look back, and I i'm gonna give you my favorite quote too but uh you ever look back um because i i when i started doing this i'm like is this something i've always wanted to do and i i know i knew i wanted to at least try it in college i think high school just one of those vague periods where i'm like i'm just getting i'm just trying to get through high school kind of thing you don't really know what you want to do I'm not gonna lie to you in high school I've been the person where like I always I never think like being older is gonna happen so when I was in high

school I'm like oh college is after this I'm like oh college is never actually I'm just gonna be in high school forever yeah but then you're like in college like what the fuck how this happened but I remember you look back when you're younger. I'm like, OK, you know what I enjoyed the most when Netflix first came out? And there was only the DVD things. Yeah. So it was kind of like trying to compete with Redbox. And then they came out with, all right, we have a few extra titles online.

And I realized my dad had a DVD ofd of the blue collar comedy tour i watched that religion i loved it who's your favorite comic right now tom segura maybe ever tom segura okay ever yeah um yeah it's tom and then he's fantastic he's fantastic i just like my someone asked me two favorite now that i would like to emulate the most but not be is a combination between Schultz and Segura Crowd work and stories. Yeah, and Schultz is fantastic in the thing. I'm really I know it's I'm stupid to say I'm working on crowd work, which mostly means I'm practicing it. That's why I like hosting That's a favorite thing about looking at what other people do and it's amazing how like a lot of this is I was like I was watching San Diego J. Kamau sometimes

I'll just go to the club and watch people i wanted to see them and see what they're doing and and he he is fantastic at it he he's so good at making you feel like the joke he's making he hasn't done a million times because he's he's adding aspects that he does with the crowd and do his jokes a lot of people don't and i would never want to ruin stand-up for someone who's like oh my god that's just off the cuff. No. You know how much that is banked? No.

Like I've done this before. He's been doing it since 14 years. I'm looking at that. I have one in a joke now where I'm like, I have a response for every different response I could think of. Yeah. And I'm ready for it. Yeah. But it sounds like, oh, just thought of it right away, which feels good.

Yeah. It works. That's probably one of the bigger pops I get. Yeah. So, but crowd work is fun. I just, I enjoy just being quick with people. Yep. And when it actually is natural off the top and it works, that's a different rush.

Yeah. Like, oh shit. You don't even know where it came from. Yeah. It just came out of your mouth. You're like, all right, that works. That's the best. I mean, I had one thing where like this girl who I know was laughing at my show just like oh my god is it the dying goat or whatever yes that was

that was all off my head and i was like i'm a fucking comedian like i actually felt like because i just made it and then off the top i was like how can i punch up how can i punch up because a lot of people don't realize like you want to punch up how can you make fun of them without being negative yeah and then she was laughing because I made fun of her laugh. And then I used to go like, man, when God made you, he must have been like, she's going to be perfect. But we got to give her something. And then that got a laugh. And then she went and did like the huge thing.

And then it just then she actually died. And dude, yeah, I like that venue. It's if you pack that room, it's it. And it has very intimate. It's honestly the size of this apartment. It's a little bigger. If you pack that room, it's very intimate. It's honestly the size of this apartment. It's a little bigger, but yeah. Yeah. Like, it's this wide, though.

Yeah. But it makes it fun because everyone is nuts to butts, dude. It's intimate. You're close enough no matter where you are that you're like, all right, he's talking to me. It's the best comedy venues, in my opinion. I love that space. When we can feel that space, we have never had a bad show. It's when we don't sell great, which was the first couple months of summer,

and then we just took a break for summer because it just doesn't work in Wisconsin. Everyone just wants to be outside. Which is fine. And even, I mean, you could do outdoor comedy shows, but then everyone's ADD. You're like, these beers. I had to stop because I saw you were going slow. I was like, it's going down like water. You're like these beers i had to stop because i saw you were going slow i was like it's going down like water and i was yeah i can i'm a little worried um because of the lack of food the lack

of food i've had yeah i was like one beer is gonna i'm gonna be feeling it yeah um i think I have a bottle opener. Got it. Good enough. Okay, my favorite quote, and it used to be a question I ask at the end of – actually, this conversation is perfect for the last question of this episode. But my favorite quote is – and it's one of the reasons I like – not one of the reasons I started doing stand-up, but it makes me like realize I had this moment, is every man has two lives. His second one starts when he realizes he has just one. I was like, that's great.

And I've said it so many times on here, but it's phenomenal. I don't get how, I give people props who work jobs. If it's what they love to do and they just want to get their paycheck and then just live their life. That is the life for some people. For some people. If it's what makes you happy, I have no problem. But I just see so many people who have nothing outside of work and don't like what they do. And then they just go and drink, which I drink.

Living for the weekend. And it's just like – to me it's, don't you want something to strive for? Something that you're in? It doesn't have to be comedy. It could be anything. But, like, to me, it's just, I was doing that where I was working in a cubicle. Dude, this place, there was, like, two moments that made me realize, like, why am I here? I can't do a cubicle.

Dude, well, the first one was, the cubicle was all I had. And't do a cubicle dude well the first one was the cubicle was all I had and they took my cubicle you know that space you had yeah well they literally and then they called it community seating and I'm like was it just a desk in a cafeteria open seating desks next to everyone essentially so they could watch us is my opinion but they took my cubicle which was the only privacy that I had so I could like take is my opinion. But they took my cubicle, which was the only privacy that I had. So I could like take a 20 minute break, watch a video and like unwind for a second until I called people that yelled at me. And it was just like.

Was it sales? It was sales. Oh my God. And I get this. I had to call people. So my job was we sold software. I had to call companies because like main retailers would hire us, right? Like Target's, Walmart's would hire us, right? Like targets,

Walmarts would hire us and say, Hey, we want to use your software so we can make better purchasing decisions. So then our job was to call their suppliers and be like, Hey, so target wants you to use our software. Um, and they give you $4 million a year.

What do you want me to tell target? And, and it's like some 45 year business you gonna do and with some 22 year old kid calling them and essentially you just got like oh and then eventually they'd have to do it and the funny thing is if they didn't use our software they want to use theirs they still the pay us to test their software so it was just not your felt like when you were even now if i had one of those jobs like i'm so young and i'm arguing like a 55 year old man who's owned this business for 25 years and like i hate it when i i did an internship as a mechanical engineer and right away like all right so you're in charge of everyone on this

floor part of the plan uh you're gonna make all their desks more efficient so you're just gonna like alter their desks and jerk them off underneath the yeah and so they're like are you're gonna rearrange where they have everything i'm like oh so you mean the people that are 65 years old have been here for 30 years all their desks are customized i'm gonna come in 21 years old not even i was 19 i'm like hey i'm gonna take what you've worked on for 30 years i'm gonna change it around and you want them to like do it that's like when you have a girlfriend and she's like oh I just moved your keys it's like why would you move my keys I knew exactly you know then they knew where everything it was that is like chaotic organization I'm like all right this

would make sense that's a problem with organizing is if someone else does it for you, that organization makes sense to them. Not to you. Not to you at all. We would have weekly meetings with just the staff where we would go like who had the best phone call where they got yelled at the most. And we'd sit there and listen to these calls because they were recorded. The moment that made me quit my job in sales. I don't like this. I don't either.

No, I don't. I I don't either No I don't I took one sip and I was like What the fuck is this Yeah Devin this is terrible Yeah Devin Do you want a seltzer instead Sure

This tastes like sweat dude It does Kind of cold? It's all right. Yeah. I put them in. It's one of those things that it's not that big of a deal. You don't need it to be. It's better than that.

Beer is different. Beer is different. Oh, yeah. Beer has to be. This is just above room temperature. So the day that made me like, screw it, I'm quitting my job. Like when I quit my job. I'll tell you when I quit my social. I had a lot a lot of stuff i mean i had a six-year relationship she essentially

i wrote that in my note she was like well just do something then like she was like you know yelling at me and stuff like that because i wasn't i wasn't happy with my job didn't didn't i didn't have a respectful relationship i don't think i need to end but i think it was just because i didn't really have a direction or no yeah so like So, like, I took a risk and was like, I was quitting my job. I'm going to move back. I'm going to start comedy with no foundation. Lost that relationship. But the moment that I knew, like, I had to do that and quit my job was we were out having happy hour.

We had the only building that had, like, a lawn where we could have an outdoor happy hour. Happy hour is a last-ditch effort to keep your disgruntled employees. We'll just get you drunk at the end of the week, and then you'll forget that you don't want to be here anymore. It's a way to, like, blackmail them, because you know you're going to say something stupid like, fuck, I can't quit. So we're out there having a happy hour.

A dude who worked there, overweight man, leaving on a motorcycle from the garage, from the parking structure, comes out. Second he gets out, has a heart attack, heart attack collapses ambulances are called he dies and and we're just sitting there drinking and then the next day we all knew we had a sales meeting four hundred five hundred people in this in this conference a big conference room big big conference yeah great conference room and walked in there and they're going through the sales And everything

And then they go to the next slide And just a picture of him And the chief sales officer Of the company just goes Moments like this Just really make you know Let you know What's important in life

And you're like I quit And then he goes to the next slide Anyways quarter four I'm like So we don't care about This man died leaving work So he His last thoughts Was like What did I use my life with?

As he watched Chad from Sales shotgun a white claw. Like, I was like, I don't want that to be me. You know what I mean? The desk job, the sitting down. Which is fine to have a job. I have jobs, you know? But I've tried to organize it around things that either I know I just have to just get through my job because I got other things going on. Not a this is my life now.

You know what I'm saying? Like I fell into such a good job. I can't complain. Yeah. So that's what I'm looking for right now. And I'm kind of screwed. Honestly, you'll find something. If this isn't it, you'll realize like what works well.

God or the universe or whatever you believe in. I believe that things kind of as long as you're striving for better and striving for something i think things kind of tend to work out yeah they work out hopefully i feel like i'm a pretty lucky individual when it comes to things um this is how i quit my sales job i was i worked there for three days three days i was like i can't do this i still i just what were you doing the desk thing the was that the desk job the desk organization no no no this that was when i was in college this was two years ago i uh so i just it's one of those jobs like i would just apply for jobs all the time when i was out of work um right out of college and i didn't remember applying for this one i would just feel good if i applied to something and then didn't do anything the rest of the day so i just applied to

this print media sales job i didn't know what that meant so then i get a call a month later like we see you applied for the print media job um every sale you make a thousand dollars and i was like that obviously sounds great like it's a hundred percent commission. I'm like, that doesn't sound great, but you know what? I need money. So I went and I did the training. The training was, I met this man in a parking lot of a Metro market. So a grocery store parking lot of Metro market. And he goes, all right, get in. I got into a stranger's BMW and just talk to me for a bit. He goes, we're going to go in there. And what you're going to do is you're going to sell the ad space on grocery carts. I go, what? He go, yeah. So we're going

to sell, we're going to, you're going to cold call local businesses and ask if they want to pay to put their ad on grocery carts. Like isn't gonna work out so he made me do um recon or what they call it like uh i don't know the right term but i basically call it recon go into the grocery store get all the ads where people are already advertising and you're gonna call all these businesses i went to local churches and they're like you need to go ask for the bulletins i go okay are they gonna let me i'm not a member of this church she goes just walk in there and lie and say you and your girlfriend or wife moved here and you're looking for a new church because that's the companies you want

to work for once you're just like hey just lie i go listen i was raised catholic might not be the most religious now but i do know if it is real i'm'm going to get struck down when I'm like, yeah, me and my girlfriend are here just looking for a new church. Like no one does that. I did it. And people do look for a new church, but they don't they don't instantly go. Anyways, you want to buy ad space? My grocery. Yeah.

So I also I have this brown paper bag just full of all these like business cards. As we went to quick trips and by the bathroom, if anyone's As we went to Quick Trips and by the bathroom. If anyone's looking for, like, blue-collar work, go to the bathroom at Quick Trip. And there's a bulletin board with just business cards. And he's like, take all of them. I go, what the fuck? Like, they're looking for business. I'm looking to sell them something.

Dude, the last thing we did, I felt so creepy. And this is day one, mind you. you because we're gonna go through these residential neighborhoods around here and you're gonna take pictures of the realty signs in front of people's houses and then you're gonna call the realtors because they like to advertise a lot i go okay that is true oh you want me to take pictures of people's houses? I will never forget this. Two years ago, November, we had a 70-degree day. 70-degree day. It was over Thanksgiving break or something like that.

Everyone is off school. This man pulled up to a house that had a realtor sign on it, three kids and their mom outside. He rolled down the window and goes. That's why he's got a bmw he goes take a picture of the sign i go what he goes do you know how creepy it looks that two grown-ass men slowly rolled up in a bmw rolled down the window took a picture of these kids and then drove away. I went like this

The mom saw and like went inside. I'm like go dude go go Then he goes take a picture of the plumbing company in their driveway to him like just go We got back into the parking lot. He picked me up in he goes. All right, go home Memorize the phone script I go I need to memorize what I'm gonna tell the fucking cops Yeah, dude, cuz you're me knocking on memorize the phone script. I go, I need to memorize what I'm going to tell the fucking cops. Yeah, dude. Because they're going to be knocking on my door. Dude, I got something on top. So I used to work for my cousin's digital marketing company.

Yeah. And he's great. I liked working with him. I have that business card somewhere in here still. Yeah. And we were doing a video shoot for a local town. They were trying to do tourism, right? And we created great video content for them but one of the shoots because we wanted

to they wanted to get all the best parts of their town right yeah so one of them was just this little swimming park for kids dude we were with the person who represented the company and and we we first thing we do is like we were fine with shooting everything else but we get there we're like look look we say you know her name and we go you got to go to these parents let do Is like we're fine With shooting everything else But we get there And we're like look Look we say you know Her name And we go You gotta go up to these parents And let them know

What we're doing Because we're two Grown men Walking around with cameras Videotaping Like we have facial hair This doesn't look good Yes

And what she does She's like okay I got Like I'll do it I got you Like you know Yeah I'll go talk to them This is what she does

We get there We walk out And she just She walks up to one parent. She goes, hey, my name's Liz. I'm with Visit Blank. And we're going to just be shooting an ad for our campaign. Is that okay with you?

Yeah, that's fine. Okay. We're good. One person? There's 40 other parents. There's 40 other parents, a bunch of kids. And she's like, you're good. Go ahead and record.

I'm like, no. We're just going to record your daughter? Yeah, dude. It was like, and all the parents were like, what? I'm like, we're working. We're working. It was the most uncomfortable I've been in a long time, dude. Sales is, I saw a stat, for the most sociopathic or egotistical people,

like personality-wise, sales is the number one job for those people. It can also be a great job, and it can also be a great – it's a fantastic skill set. There are natural salesmen. Like my neighbor growing up – My dad is one of them. My neighbor growing up, his dad was a salesman, and his son does sales now, and he's phenomenal.

Like he just – the way he can talk to people he's just very good at like hey let's see if we can help you kind of thing well that's what's real sales is is like can we actually like help you with the goal that you're trying so good but then there are people who are just super I couldn't do that because I wasn't buying into one of the good like I don't I wouldn't buy into the company and we had a meeting day three this is when i knew i was completely done by the way this is where we did the cold calling and this is his philosophy on cold calling is if no one answered first of all we went to a local library and he's like can we rent can we just like reserve some space in like a study room the study room is if i sat on that cushion next to you and the door closed

at the end of this it was that's just us this was the desk you and i were there just calling next to each other and he's just watching me and if no one answered he goes all right this is what you gotta do he's like hi my name is michael uh blah blah blah i was just hoping you would and then hang up like it and pretend you got cut off. Are you kidding me? And they're like, people would call back. I had a church call me back a church like, Hey, you got cut off. I didn't know what you wanted. I'm like, Oh my God, felt so bad. But I find, I booked a few appointments and he told me every sale, every appointment I booked that he sells, I would get half the commission.

I'm like, cool. I just got to do the call, and I make $500. And he just hyped himself up. Typical salesman. I sell at least five a week. You're not making five grand a week, you fuck. Like, I promise you, you're not. You wouldn't be here.

Didn't sell a single one. I booked like nine appointments. Didn't sell a single one. The last one, Zoom call with a realtor. This realtor bitching him out. here um didn't sell a single one i booked like nine appointments didn't sell a single one the last one zoom call with a realtor this realtor bitching him out and she was also really stupid she goes i made a youtube video it has 500 views in a month you know that's that's okay it's okay but we just told you you could get $20,000 in two weeks. $500.

I'm like, I did it for free. I'm like, oh, I can't do this. I'm like, this lady thinks she's David Dobrik, and my salesman thinks he's God. Yeah. And I went home that day. I texted him two hours later. I go, hey, man, I can't do this. And I knew I was, like, disposable. He goes, totally understand.

Text me if you ever want to get back in. I was like, you don't care about me at all. No. I was just another paycheck to you. Most companies don't. That's what you want to find is companies that actually care. Oh, that's why I love my job now. But 80% of them don't.

80% of them don't care about you. It is what it is. I loved watching this salesman just get ripped by new people. We went to the country once. Like, someone who, outside their house, they're just splitting wood moving rocks um cutting down trees they did siding they did landscaping all that blue collar work like this guy works 14 hours a day every day and he's trying to sell him grocery cart ad space and he goes i got this one i'm like listen i kind of grew up near all that i have friends that do this can i talk to him he showed up i'm like can

we also take the dress shirt off the tie the shoes this guy is not going to respect you yeah and he got bodied again i go this is comical i'm i don't think you actually make any money also he told me about all the suicides his friends had i'm like you seem like the common denominator man i would like to get out of this car right now that's his goal he makes money off of people who kill themselves like do you collect insurance too it's a get my cars like in three weeks you'll be walking. Because he would just drive me around and all he would do, he's like, yeah, every year we get together with our friends because one of our friends killed himself.

I'm like, I met you today. Why are you casually dropping this? Sales is rough, dude. I did it for my cousin's company. But I mean, it was my choice. I'd call people and I'd try to sell them on digital marketing because a lot of companies know it's more popular. But at the time, they didn't have a lot of it it's like

and video content could be a very powerful tool for very yeah if you do it right and you do well and you know i just it was very hard i got some people but man i mean one time i just walked into a salon and and i was like hey just wanted to ask you is everything to do you know video whatever it's like that and she walks in like i should just walk outside like i was like oh she's gonna talk to me she's like so actually we're gonna do the no soliciting and then just slams the door on me and i mean it's fair i'm not arguing you can't argue with it because if that was your company and you said was i don't come in trying to sell you while you're working like get the fuck out yeah i get it the worst is when you do the full spiel spiel and they're like, I think we'll pass. Like, I just wasted 45 minutes.

I mean, what I found the most successful was just being honest with people. Look, hey, Jason, my name's this. I'm not going to lie to you. This is a cold call. I do this, and I want to see if, and then you don't have whatever pitch. Like, if that's something that you would be interested in talking about, we're a local business. And if not, I don't want to waste your time.

But like I got better responses out of just being bluntly honest with people than I did. Oh, absolutely. Hey, Jason. Like I can read right through that. You ever just meet somebody who no longer has a personality because of their job? Oh, yeah. Dude, it's like how did you let them corrupt your soul to the point you don't have thoughts? Your personality is like, I just have money.

That is your personality. It's like, I can afford this. That's it. I never wanted to become that. It's my biggest fear. I decided to talk about my penis on stage. Yeah, it's my big... Like I said, there's a video of me in a penis costume asking my friend where hamsters come from.

That job, I think I've just solidified that I'll never have one of those again. Yeah. I'm going to see where we're at with time. I might ask you your final. Oh, you got 10 minutes in you? Where's Jack? I can give him a call. Tell him to come down here.

We can walk to High Note from here. Would he perform tonight? Tell him to come down here. We can walk to High Note from here. Would he perform tonight? You want me to call him right now? Okay, man. You're on the podcast again.

Do I have to put his name on this episode? No. Well, partially, I wanted to do this on my own with you just to see how it goes. Yeah. I'm done with him again. Oh, absolutely. I'm trying to get better at this, and Jack is actually really good at podcasting. That's why I wanted him because I want to surround myself with people who have different skill sets and things. It gets easier and easier just making it a conversation.

I will notice, though, once this goes off, a little bit of your head just kind of goes, okay. And then it's more of a quote unquote normal conversation. But let's be honest. This is pretty, this is pretty normal. Yeah. That's why I don't like telling people when I start. Cause if I just go, all right, and go. Hey, look at what I do.

I do a vlog. Yeah. And it's like, Hey guys. And I'm like, I always joke. I'm like, this is my YouTube voice. And welcome back to the fat chance vlog. Oh God. No, I, I tried to, I tried to I'm like, I always joke. I'm like, this is my YouTube voice. Welcome back to the Fat Chance Vlog. You're like, oh, God. No, I try to be more like, what am I actually like?

Yeah, no, that's all I want. Just when people ask me, like, what are we going to talk about? I go, I don't know, whatever comes up. Yeah. Like, I guess try to be funny or interesting is all I want. I just want interesting. One of the funny things that happened in my job before I quit was they didn't give us raises.

It was a joke. I sold $2.5 million of software and then they give us raises. They didn't pay us well. Our pay was not good. It was fine. Yeah. But it was not good. It was livable.

Barely. Eee. Okay. Well, meaning when I lived in Minneapolis, it was like half of my money was going to rent. Yes. And then the other half, it's like, well, if you want to do anything, otherwise you just have to live like a hermit

and save up all your money. And I wasn't that fiscally responsible at the time. But their reward for us, and this was like, you really don't give a shit about us, was they went, their reward for the people who perform the best each month was they got tokens of like to show who did the best and they got them from one of our because we had just

gotten a deal with uh um what's it called five below you know the store for five dollars or below so they went to the store and they bought two toy items and that one represented the best overall closing for sales and one was the best for arr annual reoccurring revenue whoever close the most annual reoccurring revenue people who continually yeah purchase and the the if you got one of those items you got this toy shark that like well you just got the toy you just got the it got sat on your desk and it just represented that you had the most sales a month and then if you got the most sales for the month, you got a lightsaber. Funny enough, guess what they did?

They took the blade out of the lightsaber because they didn't trust us with the lightsaber. Oh, my God. So, like, it was actually like, oh, we trust you to talk to million-dollar, you know, accounts. We're worried you're going to stab someone. But we can't trust you with a plastic toy. And I was like, you really don't give a shit about it. It was so insulting to me and nobody else saw that.

Like nobody else like really made that connection. And I was like, how do you not make the connection that they don't want to give you a raise for hard work? You know what that was? They'll give you a toy that doesn't even have the fun part of the toy. Here's a deck of cards, but it's just the box. Dude, at least let me swing the lightsaber around a bit.

That's, you know what that is? That's the PR, HR department. Like, oh, fuck. We need to keep some of these people around. Like, when's the end of the year? Oh, it's tomorrow. Go to the store. That's all I was left.

I was like, dude, we're adults. Not much of ones but we are adults i would have liked a five dollar gift card to target better than that let me pick my item from five below at least you know yeah at least a five dollar gift card gets you to go to the store they could have done any they could have given us a 20 gift card to a coffee shop i don't have to pay for coffee that morning but they got his toys that because like i think a lot of these companies like well some people do – it blows my mind. Some people do want recognition.

And I'm cool with recognition. I mean I'm a comic. You want recognition to an extent. But the recognition comes with other things. You know what I'm saying? You want to earn the recognition. Because you get the recognition, you get more opportunity, and you get more money based off of that opportunity. Yeah.

But just being like, good job. Here's a lightsaber. It was just like, eat a dick. You know, I don't need anything. It's like, I would rather you just didn't give me the dick.

Go fuck yourself. Yeah, for real. That's what it was to me. Are you ready for your last question? Sure. What's my last question? Then I have to pee so bad.

What's my last question? So, coincides with the beginning. What is your meaning of life in five words or less and then I'm gonna have you explain when I'm done being You can stay without me there. my meaning i've really been thinking about like why i was gonna say like not gonna lie while you're peeing and i said you could say it while i wasn't there i for a while just a split second like have i been imagining this entire conversation no i i've been thinking about really what i'm trying to do in life

and why I'm trying to do. People say it's hard to actually commit and deliver if you don't have that why. I think – Fair. You want me to give you mine? Yeah, I think I have it, but you can give me yours. So mine is just simply to live. Devin's was be creative as, or I think something like be creative as possible or

always find a way to be creative. Um, my buddy Connor's was empathy, stuff like that. Like it doesn't have to be like your purpose. It's not your six words. Yeah. I'll give you six. It doesn't have to be your purpose. What is the meaning to life to you i think with everything i've been doing and

trying to become i think it's it's learning to love myself and others okay i think it's mainly where i'm at where i yeah i think that's it just trying to be positive and like i've heard something recently where it's like you can choose love you know you can choose just because you don't like somebody doesn't mean that you don't have you don't have to be mean to them you know what I'm saying my mom's always been a great great example she's always said you know it's not what you say it's how you say it and I just think if you find self-love and and work towards becoming a better person and work towards developing yourself and then transcending that love to other people and just treating them with respect i think it it helps you immensely and people can view that as weak but

i truly think it's harder to show love to people you don't necessarily like oh absolutely than to just be a jerk so i'd say learning to love myself and others i like that yeah mine has always been to live and someone put it in a better way than i did but it's life is learning to enjoy the passage of time yeah i've heard that too yeah and it just the end of the day i think a lot of things don't matter and this is your it sound as i i think a lot of things we do are very selfish but i think selfish has a bad connotation to it um there is negative selfishness but there's also good selfishness and i think you need to find a balance in that but just to enjoy when i think it comes what you have right here like if i can love myself i can then love others it's hard to

love others with you don't love yourself i It's hard to love others with you. Don't love yourself. I think a lot of, I think if you, if everyone I've asked this, if you were to hear all of them, you could find a way to connect all of them, which I think says a lot about just humans.

I agree. It's cool. I think that's a good way to end it. Awesome. Thanks. Can I plug myself or no? Oh yeah do that cool yeah you guys can follow me on youtube at brandon wine on tiktok or instagram at brandon wine comedy um and i also have a podcast called the you broke it show that you can find on youtube tiktok instagram and facebook and yeah michael's just on the newest episode of that.

We didn't get to use much of it. We shot for about two and a half hours, and I went through it. I was like, none of this is usable. Absolutely none of this is usable. I would say none of that is my fault either. I don't think it is. No, it's not. It's not.

But it's still fun. We play dumb games. We kind of riff like this as well. That would be my one piece of advice i tell you about doing this to save yourself time you can have fun with it like that was a very fun day for me i enjoyed that i did not expect it um is one because you take yourself very seriously when it comes to this and you should not be ashamed of that at all and i don't think you are one put your foot down on when people should be

here like give them a time frame like hey if you're going to be an hour late which is what happened it's not great um to put a precedent right listen i want to use majority of this. Like, I don't edit anything unless it's something terrible happens. I haven't edited anything out. Yeah. But if it was something like that with me, I just wouldn't release it. Yeah. But I would have edited it.

Make sure one... Well, it's still content. I wanted to put out what I could. I know, but make sure one, people, when they get there, they're like, hey, everything you say can and will be used against you.

Read them their podcast rights, basically. That's a good idea. Read them their podcast. Anything you say can and will be used against you read them their podcast rights basically that's a good idea read them their pocket anything you say can and will be used against you i like i will put this out on the internet so because a lot of people come into these things right away and we'll just like oh this is mine edit that out yeah fuck i'll just fuck off edit it out like they don't realize how much work that is It's my only It's only my six episodes So I appreciate this So I'm learning this stuff But yeah Just basically like listen

This is going on I just want you to realize Like I know this seems like A fun thing for you to do Like you don't do this But I Putting this on the internet For me

Alright And I think it will do well Okay So Just know This is going online So what you say Will come back to you. I want you to be entertaining.

I want you to be funny. I want you to be interesting. Don't be a dick kind of thing. So just know you're responsible for what you say. Yeah. And then that leads to more people being like, all right, like I'm here. I'm here to have a good time. It's a purpose.

to more people being like all right like i'm here i'm here to have a good time it's a purpose knowing just having people know you're serious about this yeah changes their dynamic and how they perform on here yeah it's a big thing because i notice it and i could even tell on your face sometimes or i think even you were like fuck i can't use some of this no i couldn't use any of it and even i was i was editing it for two weeks and I was like, I was trying to salvage it. And I was like. One, my friends are going to be fucked or I'm going to be and it's not worth it. Yeah, it's not worth it. You don't want to be the reason someone's fucked.

You definitely don't be the reason you're fucked. But it's just one of the things. Let them know, like, hey, this is I take this seriously. So fuck off. Yeah. Kind of off. Yeah. That kind of thing. Cool. Well, I appreciate that.

That's good. That's good words of the wisdom. Now we're done. I'm not going to promote myself. All right. Bye. Bye.