Fat Chance Podcast - Skiing Is Easy Ep.161

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

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There's a, we'll cut this part out, but like, there's a, we got into a weird demographic, because I would do this in my apartment all the time, so we're in my own house. I don't have shoes on half the time, and I'll like put my feet up like this. If you do it, it doesn't matter. You'll get one message from someone who listens to this,

be like, dude, we fucking love your socks. We love your socks, we love your feet. We've had offers. They're out there. Oh, it's insane. I mean, we're not even trying. But I'm like, I'm gonna be comfortable when I do this. And people are just like,

I'll pay you 250 bucks for your socks. I'm like, I might as well start. I mean, it's a good. Easy money. It's easy money. The weirdest one we got and I'm gonna move this closer for you guys so you have more room with your cord yep the craziest one I got is I got a video request from someone they asked me to tie

myself up not kidding put myself in a corner feed out like this with a sock in my mouth and they wanted me to wiggle for like 45 seconds. That was actually, is this Instagram DMs or? This was, I think this was an Instagram DM and he's like, hey I'll give you, it's definitely a he, but I'll give you $1,000. I was like, fuck, all right, this is a decent amount of money. And then he goes, I was like, hey man, this is, no.

I don't even know why I'm replying to you, but absolutely not. He goes, 1500, and we'll do it once or twice a month. You put that money in escrow. I was like, okay, if you can promise me this doesn't see the light of day outside of you, three grand a month for a minute and a half of work, absolutely.

But then, at some point point people are gonna ask you what you do for work and you're gonna answer. I just say I'm in, I produce content. Yeah, that's it. Count them in the service industry. The service industry. The whole industry's crazy now, for sure. The feet?

Yeah, just everything with the selling here. You sell, yeah. How about holy fans, dude? How much they're making now? A mil of money? It's a mil, I feel like it's more than, I mean, yeah. How about OnlyFans, dude? How much they're making now? A millimund? It's a mill. I feel like it's more than, I mean, yeah, I guess. I'm making a millimund.

Yeah, so subscription-based service. It's wild. I think I would run it for a couple years if I was a chick. I mean, and it's like, it just disappeared. If I was a hot girl, would I do OnlyFans? Yeah, and where would you draw the line on your OnlyFans? Like, are you just doing the lingerie stuff? Which basically is just Instagram.

You have to look at your choices. You can do this content, which seems pretty easy, and say you're making a mil a month, or you can work 40 hours a week at a job you hate. And never make a mil. I like to think I wouldn't do it, but it's enticing, I get it. I like to think I wouldn't do it either,

and I'm glad I don't, I'm not ever gonna have the opportunity to have to decide. Well, I mean, I guess I have had the opportunity, I did, oh, the feet finder, whatever it's called. You're halfway there. I'm halfway there. You guys are about to be right on the site too. They're gonna love you.

Oh, these are actually sick ass socks. Yeah. I've got ugly feet. So I was just in Japan. I don't think anyone has good looking feet. If anybody's been to Japan, they got this family mart, which is where all the best gas station food is.

And it's like legendary spot. They're all over every corner. So this is just gas station socks. Gas station socks, yeah. But they're super sick because you can just go to the gas stations. We would just do this little tour where we would stop and get a beer every corner and they're a buck

or a buck and a half to get a big IPA and you can just walk from corner to corner and explore the city. I love that. Yeah. I wanna go to Japan as well. I guess we should start with this. You guys form Skiing Is Easy. Sir. You guys are in Japaning is Easy. Yes, sir. You guys are in Japan.

Were you both in Japan? Just you? Just me, yep. That's unfortunate. In Japan, probably for a skiing trip, I assume? Okay, cool. Got the introductions out of the way. That sounds incredible.

I wanna go to Japan, sell a dollar, a beer, and just hop. Yeah, yeah, right now the yen's at like a $10,000 low, or a 10-year low, so it's like, I don't know, probably $1 for every five bucks USD. That's so nice. I was just in Canada and we went skiing in Banff and you felt like a god, because everything, we were like, hey, everything's 30% off here.

So you'd be like, let's get a pizza and a beer. It's like $12. I go, yeah, but not really. And it was so nice, because like, am I getting fooled or not? And then you look at your bank account, and those like 15, 16s were like 12s and 11s, and I was like, this is nice. This is free.

Yeah, and then we flew right from, one of my buddies, we flew right from Canada to here, right before I moved here, and I was like, damn, $15 means $15, and it's one beer. Yeah. Which sucks. Yeah For sure. Yeah, no my first time in I went to Europe back spring break actually spring break this week actually, so that's cool But I went there to Denmark just hang out some homies and my first day there I didn't know anything about the transaction fees or anything like that and we went to an Irish bar It's after we went to a football game and it was like a 5-4 finish and we were just

Wasted and so we brought a couple Danish dudes back to the Irish bar and I was like, yo Let me get you guys some shots. And so I asked the bartender. I was like, yo, what's your uh, what's your premiere shot? And he's like, oh, I got this this nice whiskey and I was like, yeah warm up me and these five guys Alright, sounds good. So he pours them up and They came in these nice like little chandelier glasses and we're all cheers and me and my three American buddies all shot him down you know like a shot yeah Danish Jews immediately I just like what yo what are you doing don't chug the Middleton don't chug the Middleton and so the cultures are different that's right when I fucked up. And so I paid my bill and it was 600 Kroner or whatever

and I was like, yeah, it's probably not too bad, you know, whatever, I didn't know anything. Is it reverse? Yeah, I woke up in the morning and checked my credit card and it was like 250 for that round and I was like, well, there goes all my souvenir money for my mom, so. Yeah.

Yeah, and I was like, it's just ridiculous. That's tough when you don't check. Like, all right, this is, I mean, buying Top Shelf Anything is gonna screw you. And it's definitely an American thing where like, can I get a shot? We're gonna put this down in a couple seconds. I hate the shots though here that,

like if I ask for a shot after this bunch, I want a shot that's in a shot glass. I don't want the bomb glass that's full because I wanna just put it down. I don't wanna, if I wanted to sip on this, I'd ask you for, I guess the exact same thing, whiskey need, which is just a shot. But I'm expecting a little more.

I hate that, because I'm like, this is going down in two for sure. You're a whiskey guy? Yes, I'm definitely lean whiskey. Not at tequila, you guys tequila people? For shots. For shots. Yeah, I'm definitely lean whiskey. Not at tequila, you guys tequila people? For shots. For shots. Yeah, I like to drink whiskey.

I'm not too popular with shots, but it's gotta be the good tequila. It has to be good to campy. I can't do that shit anymore. The gold? He can do it. He can definitely do it. I've seen that.

If we got to a point, we all could do it. In college, we'd be like, all right, I'm in tequila mood, let's do it. But I think since, it's just, I'm like, I'll smell it, and I'm like, no, I'm not really. Good rule, though, anything that comes in a think sense, it's just, I'm like, I'll smell it. And I'm like, no, I'm not. I think, good rule, Thumb, anything that comes in a plastic bottle, it's like, dude, just.

Absolutely not. I think, once you graduate college, the plastic bottle stuff's gotta go. Which, how old are you both? 28. 28? 29. Okay, 28 as well. Yeah, definitely in the same boat with the plastic bottle stuff, gone.

I think being 28, 29 is such a funny age because you're old enough to know better, but young enough to still do stuff anyway. Oh, absolutely. You're in that perfect middle ground. I think our 28, I do not feel 28. No. I mean, St. Patty's Day, I was like,

I'm ready to drink all day. And I remember it being 16, 17, or even college, I'm like, I'm ready to drink all day. And I remember it being like 16, 17, or even college, I'm like, well I'm 28, it's probably like, this shit's gonna be done. Like we'll just keep it easy. I'm like, no, we can do this all day. I wanna do this all day. I mean, I think most of us probably thought

we were gonna have a wife and kids by now. Like, that's wild. And right, and I think it's kind of that Denver mindset. When people move here, because I'm from the Midwest. Yeah. Are you from the Midwest? Yeah, from Wisconsin. Yeah, and so you probably see a bunch of people,

every time you log on Facebook, people are getting rings. Oh, it's the Midwest way. Right, and they're getting married really young. All my buddies in the South, they're just constantly at weddings. Yeah. I mean, I'm constantly at weddings too, but it's not mine. And I mean, I live with my girlfriend,

but I'm like, sorry, Rach, but, no yeah. It is fun. It is, I mean, it is left and right. And we're, it's, right now I'm like, do we have any time to do anything we wanna do? I'm just flying, I'm going to Minnesota, I'm going, even here, everyone's, I have a few buddies getting married here.

Like, yeah, we're doing it in Vail. We're doing it, I'm like, can anyone, everyone's, I have a few buddies getting married here. I'm like, yeah, we're doing it in Vail. We're doing it, I'm like, can anyone do something 20 minutes away? That'd be really nice. But yeah, it is the Midwest way, and I guess the South, are you from the South? I'm actually from Denver. Oh, you're from Denver.

Littleton. Littleton. But Midwest way is high school, and if you don't go somewhere big for college, next step, marriage. Yeah, and your kids. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm from a really small farm town,

so we always had family businesses there, and so half my friends, I think only had 67 graduating my entire high school class. And I think maybe 15 of us went to college, so most of them just packed up, headed home, and started their family business, and been growing ever since. How many different family businesses can you have

with 67 people? A lot. Is it 67 different businesses? Yeah, honestly probably about 67. A lot of farmers, man. A lot of, I don't even know, a lot of them run bowling alleys. Well you started something else, which is great.

You guys started something else. When did we, when did it officially did this? So I've been doing as much research as I can. I almost got creepy and asked for both of your personal Instagram accounts. I was just gonna show you a bunch of pictures that I found a little concerning, but not gonna do that yet.

Don't know you that well. You said it started with 20 t-shirts and just a funny slogan. Yeah, pretty much. We were, I don't know 15 15 of us more or less we're all we were all living in Breckenridge a couple of years ago and We had this catchphrase skiing is easy It was just like something we would shout on the mountain and say like just in any scenario skiing is easy

Turned it into a t-shirt Not to sell them. It was just for like the crew. was just fun. And it was a black shirt in white. It's, you know, we still have them. It's easy, yeah, we should have. It is a plain black shirt to skiing is easy. Oh yeah, it's the biggest acrylic. And we're all living up there and everyone's been skiing for a long time.

So we're all really good skiers and boarders. And so it's just funny, you know, everyone's skiing in these shirts that says skiing is easy and we're just constantly getting compliments. People are like, Oh, I love this, this and that. So the feedback on it was just really good out of the gate. And that's when the idea was planted. Like, okay, got to bring this a little closer to your mouth. Oh yeah.

Got to do something with this. Like the culture is here. And I think I know in the back of my head, I had always wanted to like do a brand or something that was connected with skiing. Cause I think skiing just has the greatest culture. Right, opera, like you get to share it with your friends. It's insane. It's such a great culture and I wanted to bring that

to life and yeah, I think we got those t-shirts made and then the feedback was great. But it wasn't until like a year, year and a half later that we actually like sat down, we're like, all right, we're doing this. We're making new designs, LLC, this and that. It's been a while. I like that.

I like anything where it's like, hey, the intention wasn't for this to be a business. No. But because it's something you love so much, the feedback was great, like, we could do something with this. I think those are the brands that I think succeed the most. And which I looked at your website a ton.

I like a lot of your stuff. I mean, I really do. It looks great when I, because I hadn't heard of it, and I just got into the skiing culture too. So I started snow, I snowboard, but I started doing that in high school and then I never went to a mountain from Wisconsin.

Like my hill was a legitimate landfill. It was just a garbage dump. And then just go on that. I'm sure you probably had that out. Yeah, it was like. Oh yeah, that's how it all started. Just put a bunch of hay bales up and yeah, you went down. So that was it.

A handful of the best skiers I know now are from Iowa. It's hilarious. I'm from Colorado, I should be a pro or something. One of the best skiers I know is from Wisconsin. And it's wild. Yeah, it's crazy. And I just, after college, all my friends started, our fraternity group was like hey

We're doing a yearly ski trip and the last three years have been in Colorado But they've done Jackson Hole have done This snowbird in Utah They've done all those and I'm like, all right. I love it. It's so much fun and I think that is great like you had it started with something you just Your friends and then yeah built it. It's so much fun. And I think that is great. It started with something you just, your friends, and then you built it. It's great. Well yeah, but also you guys in Madison got Granite Peak.

You ever been there? Yep. We would go from Iowa up to Granite Peak for our college trips. Oh, okay. Because I'm really into park and doing jump stuff. And Granite Peak has the six speed high chair. And you can just rip park all day. So I went there as a kid just drove up there as like eight hours for me

But we would ride Actually, we're lucky Wisconsin has a decent amount of stuff. We have a decent amount of bigger hills, which is great So we could do it I remember like I Not the best. I mean, I've gotten significantly better since actually doing a mountain for the first time three years ago. For sure.

But I remember being like, there's no way I'm gonna be able to do this, and now I'll go back and do anything in Wisconsin. Like, this is a fucking joke. But it's awesome that we at least had that. And I think Wisconsin does have a lot of park stuff. Like, they were like, you know what? If we're not gonna go fast,

we're at least gonna try and do it. Which, speaking of park, not to cut you out, but you guys have a promoted video right now that has come across my phone, I think 20 times in the last couple of, is whoever's doing a double backflip. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it one of you two? No, it's not.

Yeah, that was me. I thought it was you, because I think it was under your account. It was crazy. Under my personal account, yeah's not. Okay. Yeah, that was me. I thought it was you, because I think it was under your account. Almost there, it was crazy. Under my personal account, yeah. Which one was it? No, that's our boys. Shout out Last Run Mafia, that's Mr. Cash.

It took me a few videos to realize he did not land that. No. But did you see, the video we posted today, was he threw a triple. Oh, did he? I haven't seen that one yet. It's like twice as big. So yeah, shout out Cash, shout out Last Run Mafia.

We found these kids and they just embodied the brand perfectly. They're insanely, they're savages just on triple backflips. They're like three videos on TikTok. Their slogan is like never call Last Run. If you're familiar. Yeah, never. That's a big thing like all, or.

Two more runs, skip the last. Two more, skip the last. But they're like, they put that reverse. They're like fuck that, we're gonna always call the last run, cause skiing is easy. And I was like, yes, this is it. That's perfect, yeah, you found your crew, your little minions.

It's really just like not taking it all too seriously. Having fun with it. Yeah, you should have. That's the brand, you know? It's perfect. Where do you guys think you're gonna go? Cause, I mean, it's taken, you guys are busy, it's taken two weeks for us to do this,

which makes sense, but you guys have meetings left and right, where are we going with this? Yeah, I mean, we're working on a lot of retail store stuff right now, so just reaching out to little kind of mom and pop shops, we wanna stay smaller locally with people, so having those conversations with people that have worked in the industry forever, and making sure we get our brand into those shops because we really want

To be you know in storefronts But we don't want to be like in the in the Christie sports of the industries of the veil the veil resorts really at this point so yeah, just having a lot of conversations with people that have been in the industry forever and Working with them to do some some retail sales and stuff like that while running the online stuff and yeah Rotten the business and building culture So would you consider it more like you guys want to keep it kind of like a street wear kind of thing? I guess in terms of popularity, like hey, you're not like the Burton or stuff like that.

The thing from day one that we put on our mood board when we started putting all this together was it was a big, like, in bold, like, no gift shop vibes. Yeah, I like that, I like that. Because one of the things, not to knock anybody running a business, but a lot of you go to downtown Breckenridge and it's just store after store after store.

It's the exact same thing, yeah. Same stuff, same just kind of shitty quality shirts. And we just wanted to avoid that like the plague. Actually have unique original designs that really like, I don't know, tap into the culture of skiing, but take a, take a step further with it, not just have like some basic, you know, generic logo of a mountain and, and whatever, but really like go deep into it. Like we've got,

we've got a collection dropping tomorrow called Why Not? And it's all about, okay, drop that cliff, why not? Send that new line, why not? Yeah. Have another drink at Opry, why not? It's really trying to make it original. And so we've been, from day one, we've tried to steer the brand into something

that's authentic and isn't just like cookie cutter, I guess would be a good way to put it. I like that, because as someone who is like first, now going to a bunch of mountains for the first time, and you have that like, oh my god, I don't know if I'll ever be back here, like Banff, stuff like that, like you wanna take something home.

Totally. And you go through those shops, and you're like, you're looking for that unique piece that's like, hey, no one else has this from Banff or from Aspen, like your Aspen 96 hat. You're gonna just get the Banff National Park, you're gonna get Vale, you're gonna have like, this kinda sucks, like 900 other people have it

or every other store has it. There's nothing unique about it, I like that. In skiing, it's something like, as skiers, boarders, people want to wear that on their sleeve. They want to, hey, I'm a skier. People are really proud of being a part of that culture and participating in that sport. And so from just a purely business side of things, like Jason and I, we're thinking,

okay, how can we establish an emotional connection with our audience, right? And one of the ways we did that early on too was Take More Sick Days was kind of our first collection that went on for a while. Oh, I got a list of things we're gonna go over. That was, Take More Sick Days was great because it was just like, I mean,

it's exactly what it sounds like, skip work and go ski. And that literally, I can point to a specific day when I think Brett got like eight inches, one more, and the whole crew went out, we called in sick, did this and that, and we just fucking had a blast. And it was like, man, we've really lived these days like okay, snow's good, you're going, we're going.

Yeah, don't regret it. That, okay, so you guys have mentioned a few of your slogans, I've gone through the website, I got about seven things, five for sure. Basically gonna give you one of your slogans and ask you a question and you just give me an honest answer, that for sure. Basically gonna give you one of your slogans and ask you a question and you just give me an honest answer, that's it. That's right.

So we'll start with the one we just went. Take more sick days. How much PTO should one actually get? Yeah. Man, so a lot of the companies up in Breck especially have an eight inch powder rule. So if there's eight inches, the stores fronts are closing and they're going dry So I like that really yeah, I like that a lot

Company I work for right now is eight inches and you can go so and it's I think it's a great company culture thing gets People excited for those days and PTO in general man Man, it's gotta be it's gotta be a month. I think a month Yeah, I mean you see all these people, I mean, you see all these people, especially when I travel, I see all these people from Australia that are taking all these two month, three month holidays and they grind super hard

during the season but then they just take off. Maybe they don't, I don't know. What's your take on unlimited PTO then? Limited, unlimited? Unlimited PTO, like they have like open vacation policy. Like you technically could take as much as you want, but it needs to be approved. What do we think of that?

That's case by case, I feel like. I mean, you gotta know the manager is always gonna be approving it. I've always been a 1099 contractor as a sales guy, so I had no idea. Yeah, it's always PTO for me. Eat what you kill. Yeah, I like the idea of PTO.

As long as you get your work done. Yeah. Like hey, I guess it depends on the job, but if it's a project-based thing, that project's done, you don't need to be here. Right, yeah. You did the work we asked you to. Get out of here.

I like it. All right, free refills. Oh, I love this one. What else should be free? Free refills. If you had to pick one thing that was just free. Whether it's a food and beverage, what should everyone get for you to- Something fucking parking.

Vale Resorts in A-Basin. Parking. Yeah, parking. Come on. Parking is a, I love that answer. That is ridiculous. Come on. You're gonna fleece me like that?

Yeah. Drive all the way up and then what, 20 bucks or something just to park? It's absurd. I paid $10 to come to this podcast down the street though. It is. True.

It's ridiculous to park here. I mean we have two cars here and we found, I have my car parked on like 29th Street in Highlands behind one of my friend's houses because I could park there for free till April or something like that. I'm like I'm not paying $300 a month next door to use my car maybe once a week.

Yeah. And if I wanted to street park it would cost me, I think it's like 50 bucks a day. It's disgusting, yeah. Yeah that's the problem with living right downtown. There's just no escaping that part. I love it down here, because I can walk to everything which is right in it,

and as a comic, I can walk to Comedy Works, the Denver Underground isn't too far, there's mics and stuff across the street, and everything's like 10 minutes away, which is so much better than Wisconsin. I was driving 20, 25, 30 minutes to go perform. I think it's one of my least favorite parts about the United States is the walkability factor.

Like, of course in cities you've got that, but for the most part, like, I don't know, it's not just as much of a cultural thing here. Yeah, no. Walkability. Yeah, well, and it's also because I think we're more rural. Yeah, suburban. Like it's. Good farm boys we're more rural, suburban.

Good farm boys. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Alright, moving on. Golf is easy. What's your handicap? I'm actually a two. Are you really?

Yeah. You asked to be a fourth, you will never be a fourth with me then if you're a two? I'm your guy. What is yours? I really have one. Yeah, you don't have that one. I've got a lot better this year though. I mean, truthfully, I only played one. Best I've ever shot is a 91, I think. What is yours? Yeah

Played best I've ever shot is a 91 I think okay on I'm mid 80s mid to low 80s when I'm feeling good Yeah, that's great. You are probably what mid to high 70s usually yeah. Yeah around there. Yeah, it depends But yeah, man, love golf as well. My brother and I my brother works for a golf company and we grew up playing on a really shitty golf track. How was the golf in Iowa? It's actually pretty solid. We got some solid tracks there, but I grew up on literally a goat track, just a little nine hole course, but they had a range, so that helped a ton.

And yeah, I grew up playing in some junior tournaments, stuff like that, and then played in high school and had a good career in high school. Played a little bit in college, but the boo, and then played in high school. And had a good career in high school. Played a little bit in college, but the booze kinda took over in the party. It'll do that. It kinda burnt out a little bit on that aspect of my life. Jason and his brother have a really great dynamic,

and they were, I think, very competitive growing up, like in a fun way, because they're both phenomenal skiers and both phenomenal golfers. And you can tell it was just because they would like compete against one another growing up. You know, if you would have told me, if I'd just gotten like a background of you,

like Iowa farm boy, and I had to pick what you were into, I would not go skiing and golf. No. Like football and wrestling maybe. Yeah, yeah, I don't know how it happened. Wrestling for sure. Yeah, I don't know how it happened, yeah. The skiing stuff just happened because we had a little like like you said a landfill like 35 minutes away from our high school

Open till 10 p.m. Yeah, and got obsessed with skiing man my buddy from us His my buddy was from Switzerland and his dad taught me how to ski one time I was snowboarding before I was skiing and he's like you're putting skis on if you're going on this trip and I was like All right, I'll do it taught me how to ski Yeah, never went back and he was like just the he was the embodiment of vintage skiing He was ripping moguls all day. Dude was like 65 Just yeah straight Swiss style skiing was great But yeah, we would just go there every single night man after high school

It was like our high school hangout spot before before booze before smoking weed for any of that shit Yeah It was like we would go there drive 40 minutes ski all night till 10 o'clock and drive home three nights a week during the winter And it was just ice rails and jumps. Yeah Same thing ours was luckily like 10 minutes down the road for me, but it's just like that's what you had to do Yeah, it was that and it was the game big yet Even East Coast skiers. I find that East Coast skiers are just built different, to put it that way, right?

They're just really good skiers, especially once they come out here and they're like, oh, I can handle all this. Yeah, anyone that's scared to go down the mountain, do it once. The first run, you're gonna feel a little weird. By the second or third, you're like, I got this. For sure, snowboarding's a different beast, I feel like.

Yeah, the falls are harder. Yeah, I've been snowboarding more than I've been skiing. And I think snowboarding's definitely shittier to learn. You're just falling on your ass all day. It's like, it's not as natural, right? Skiing, you can kind of just hop on and point the tips. I've never skied, it looks so much more natural. I'm like, because your legs are separate.

I'm like, I feel like that's just how you naturally move. Like when I have my buddies that are like killing it, going down by a black, I'm like, my body doesn't turn that quickly on this thing. There's no way. It's definitely like a more efficient way to get down the mountain or to navigate the mountain, I would put it that way.

Like even if like big mountain skiers right yeah they have they're able to do a lot of different things that snowboarders you know can't I would say and you know I got a tread lightly here someone's gonna call me out but that's all right for the for the most for the most part like the guys that are you don't see as many like intense big mountain snowboarders, right? There's a few out there, but it's just not as efficient. I mean, you've got two edges versus one. It's as simple as that, right?

No, I agree, and I mean, that leads into four. As skiing is easy, and I was like, what's your take on snowboarding? Do you hate us? But you snowboard more than you ski? These days, it's about 50-50, but I'm a better snowboarder than I am a skier. Oh really?

And now you're a better skier. Are you doing, you're doing a lot of the photography and the filming, right? Yep, I do all that, yeah. So you have to, this is like, when I watch people like X Games, stuff like that, obviously the people doing the massive air tricks, like that's impressive. But the people who are not looking where they're going

and just looking at their camera, does that ever freak you out? Like you're gonna hit something, have you taken a huge tumble trying to film someone? Yeah, of course, definitely have eaten shit multiple times trying to film people. And yeah, honestly, been filming, I mean, I work full time doing video and photo stuff for the last ten years of my life

So but on the mountain it yeah becomes difficult with keeping up with speed for jumps Especially following people off you have to make sure You keep it up with their pace because if they get in your way and you've skirt a little speed then you're gonna case that Next jump you just have to be ready for it. But But yeah man, I found myself in many of tumbles. I've got broken GoPros and like just sending. I was gonna say the equipment budget is gotta be decent. I will say though, the 360 camera invention

is a game changer for sure. Cause those things you can just point and you can do all the editing. And I don't know if you ever mess with them but you can do all the editing, and I don't know if you ever mess with them, but you can do all the editing afterwards, and it films everything so you never miss a shot. That's nice, yeah. So I picked one of those up last year,

and that thing, yeah, that thing fucks. Yeah, I mean, quality equipment definitely is gonna make your life a little easier. For sure, but yeah, skiing with the pole, man, just like, you don't understand how it throws your weight off a little bit too, and you can just toss you forward. Dude, let's get you out on some skis.

So I wanted to try it. I always said I would. My buddy's family out here, they're building a house near Winter Park, and I haven't been to Winter Park yet. I was like, you know what, I think when that go, when that's done and we go up there, because he wants, he boards too. I was like, let's try the skis out. Let's give it a shot.

They don't need to be around a million people. I'm gonna pizza my entire way down probably, but part of me thinks I'm a little cocky. I'm like, I think I could pick it up decently quick. Do you hockey or ice skate? No, that's, yeah, absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I think I could pick it up decently quick. Do you hockey or ice skate? No, that's, yeah, absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, I'm terrible at ice skating, so. Yeah, so okay, that makes you feel better.

If I still can do it. Oh yeah, for sure. It's learned. No, you'll pick it up. But some hockey players I've taken out before and they're like shredding within three runs. Yeah, some people pick it up so quickly. One of my favorite things we did,

this was last year, we had our buddy Dylan, shout out Dylan, he's a snowboarder, and we made this whole montage series, so to speak, where he skied his first day and did a back flip. Not just like, on a jump that was, you know, solid sized jump for your first day. So he did a back flip on skis and we made a whole little video blog thing about it, and I think that's one of my favorite. First time on

skis ever yeah not like first time on skis jumping. Maybe he had been on once or something I never seen it. This was like first time. I don't care if it was five. Yeah. Really skiing. But he's he has this thing where he's trying to backflip a bunch of different things dirt bikes yeah yeah he's got a backflip a bunch of different things. Dirt bikes, whatever, motorcycles. Yeah, he's got a big ass bucket list. Bucket list of backflips. A bucket list? He actually works for Red Bull. But he's not an athlete or anything,

but he has a huge bucket list of crazy things. He's done wing walking and a bunch of stuff like that. The adrenaline junkie, for sure. But backflip everything that he can. He had come up with this idea a long time ago. We were like, dude, let's get somebody that's never skied before to do a backflip their first day. We'll just make it a powder day.

And then we've realized Dylan has this bucket list and we're like, dude, this is fucking perfect. He doesn't even do it on a powder day. He goes to the park on a serious jump. Well, if the guy's doing the wingsuit stuff or whatever, you probably could have convinced him to do anything. Yeah, it's true. A couple more runs, runs be like why don't we make it a double? Yeah, honestly you and he would I think he would

Be my roommate it was hilarious because it was it was like we're trying to prove scientifically that skiing is easy Out in the field and we did it. Yeah. Backed by science. I like that. It's just fun, man. Everyone needs a friend like that. It's just like, yeah, fuck it. The guy that should be getting hurt never does. It's always the kid that's probably the most cautious.

It's true. Yeah. It's just like he just tense up when you get cautious. There are some savages out there. I mean, when you meet these guys that are just at the top of these sports, whether it's like skiing, snowboarding, surfing, it's like, holy shit. That is a different level.

It's a different level. And I think the level is stuff in your brain turning off. Like, you're just like, who gives a shit where I am? They don't think. They just do it. I'm like, there is no fear. Like, oh, I could drown on this wave. I could hit a tree. Like, no, I'm there. I'm just going is no fear like oh I could drown on this wave I could

Initially like no, I'm there in there. I'm like I'm just gonna make it to the bottom Well, and it's crazy too because like from my experience with whether it be skiing snowboarding or surfing. It's like when you Get fucked up when you fall. It's because you start to get a little bit afraid and you try and stop Yeah, right, especially with skiing or snowboarding you're like, oh wait, I'm out of control. And you try to, you know, whatever, and then that's when you, that's when you fall. It's like they say with like, those guys just go. It's like they say with like a car accident.

You shouldn't, if you see someone coming, you shouldn't actually stop, you should just turn. Or they say that with like a moose or something. Yeah, like, don't stop, just keep going. Just keep going. We'll keep going here then. Aspen96. Yes.

Favorite mountain, what is it? Ooh. And your least favorite mountain. Least favorite mountain, this is good. Okay, least favorite mountain. I'll start with your favorite. Are you afraid to burn any bridges right now? He's like, yeah.. That's the case.

Don't give me your least favorite mountain. No, just give me your favorite. I'm going to start with I think my favorite mountain has got to be it's got to be Whistler. I want to say a Colorado mountain. I want to say Aspen Highlands or Crested Butte or even Silverton. But man, we did a Whistler trip and it was this was during

COVID. We're thinking about doing that next year. It was horrible conditions, like fucking ice rink. And just like, but we were there and it's just the Mecca. Whistler is insane. Before we went out to that trip, you know, we did it with a big group and I was kind of like, guys, what are we doing?

We live in Breckenridge, why are we going to Whistler? But you know, I was like, all right, well, we'll'll go and then I got there. I was like, oh, okay I get it now. You gotta try some whistler whistler is like just the Mecca. Yeah Yeah The difference is is they have such a big elevation gain like their mountains might only go to 7,000 feet and ours go to you Know 13 but they start at you know 2,000 feet and breck we start at 10 we go to 3000

1000 feet almost sea level and they go up to 7000 feet so you have Like your your legs when you get down from a run at Whistler feels like shot just shaking like a leaf Yeah, you could be in for like 30 40 minutes minutes. And like, we're not skiing slow either. Yeah, no, absolutely not. An actual problem, skiing those runs. It's like, damn, this thing's so cool. Like, hey, we're taking a break halfway through. Absolutely.

Yeah, there's a reason why the Opry seat is so big there is because everyone's taking a half of a day off. Yeah, man, I mean, if you get it in good conditions, I think it would be. Yeah, we wanna go. Yeah. I guess, all right, follow up. When you give me your favorite mountain,

would, where's your best op-ray? Because you said it's great at Whistler, but I'm gonna challenge you, don't give me Whistler. Best op-ray in Colorado, let's do that. Right, I gotta go with A-Basin. A-Basin? It's a beach at A-Basin. If you're picking just a resort, yeah,

but if you're picking an event, I think like the Highlands Closing Party is super, you gotta put it up there. Yeah, at Cloud Nine. Right? Cloud Nine is where again? Aspen. Aspen, yeah, we did that.

We got kicked out, because we weren't buying anything. It was our last day, and they're like, are you only buying seven, are you buying seven dollar beers? They're like, yeah, well well this is reserved, get out. I'm like, okay. It's a different level. And then like $300 seafood tower at the top of the mountain comes out,

I'm like, I don't even know how they got here. They're not in skiers, they're just like. Like you guys, you have normal boots on, I don't know why you're here. Oh yeah. I've seen an increase of that, I feel like in the past few years, where you see people just like hanging out

around the mountain with like these big fur suits Yeah, and this and that it's like you're just there for thing what you can You know to operate is trending right now, too I mean you see these these parties at mammoth which are like going viral You know DJ Wildcat at a I can't remember what the lodge name is, but they're just crazy man like crazy big and Yeah, because of the boom blown blown up on TikTok and shit, like now people are just coming in, not even riding. They're just coming in there to just party.

It's just a party. Which is fun, but like then nobody can get in to the party, or it's too packed, and it's like, it's dope. I've seen a lot more bachelor and bachelorette trips going to mountains and resorts, stuff like that, for their, like let's just part of, instead of like Vegas, it feels like it's dying almost. We're going to, like let's be a little active

and then drink outside, which is the best way to drink is outside. Right. Do we agree with that? Yes. 100%. Yeah, no, I mean, I can't think of a better bachelor party, just go skiing with the boys, right?

Yeah, it is such a good, like when you actually get, as we get older, it's harder to get people together. I find it so hard. People are actually getting married, having kids, and you're like, all right, chill out. But when you get like, because our trips, we're anywhere from 12 to 20 people every year. I'm like, this is like the trip, it's incredible.

Everyone together, like, perfect. Yeah, it works out great. It's just like, yeah, you gotta spend 2,500. Yeah, you're spending, yeah. Now back to operas real quick though. Yeah, give me the best operas in town. I have heard, we're just, we haven't branched out that far, to be honest.

I've heard Europe is just a different level. St. Merits. Austria, yeah. I think Europe parties. St different level. Austria, yeah. I think Europe parties. St. Antin, yeah, definitely. Europe parties differently too though. So they gotta have a lot of fun though. Have you skied in Europe yet? Nope.

We did go to Argentina though, and skied in Beteloche. That was fucking great. So much fun. Was it two years ago? That was two years ago. How was Japan? You really didn't, you just told me about the socks you got at the gas station.

Cause we, like, our group has talked about going to Japan for a while now. Yeah. Tell them it sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too many people going? No, dude, I mean, yeah. I heard it's relatively, like, not cheap,

but affordable too. Right, yeah, like I said, the yen is like super, like, low compared to the USD right now, so it is the cheapest to go right now. But, oh man, we got so lucky. We had like four feet in the weekend that we got there, over 48 hours, it like broke the 20 year record or something like that, so definitely had a lot of luck

throughout the whole trip, but, I mean, like like we talked about earlier the transportation system is so flawless like getting places We never rented a car or anything like that Renting skis was super easy all the Aussies run all the shops. So it's easy to just speak English with them get skis And all the resorts are you know on the same passes as we are in Colorado. Are they really? Yeah, so our passes We're all icon epic stuff like that. Just go scan your pass don't pay for a pass over there And the powder is just it's just floaty coming off the ocean Super thin super light and you can just slash through the trees are super wide so you can just plow and Yeah, obviously got a lot of good things to say about it the whole country I mean I've been obsessed with Japanese culture for

a long time but yeah it was an incredible trip and met a lot of cool people out there everyone's super helpful and yeah just love the cities out there and yeah being cheap being cheap is great too because you can just ball out on food and booze and stuff like that and not feeling like the regret in the morning you know it's like yeah, you only have the hangover of the actual alcohol and not the financial burden that you caused. Not the financial hangover, yeah, which is terrible.

Which is terrible. That is the worst. You're like, hey, maybe we're not spending money at all today. Yeah, yeah. So, but yeah, highly recommend it. I mean, quick flight over, do what you gotta do to get over there, because it's sick.

Sweet, alright, I'm gonna send that to my friends. Alright, we got two more, I guess, oh, one more. Outside of you guys, what are your favorite ski brands? Who's doing it the best right now? Great question. You know what I'm gonna say. He's gonna say Gibberish. Okay. They crush it.

I've heard of them, yeah. They have, well, Jace, you've been following them since you were yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean gibberish My is my favorite brand a lot of inspiration came from From them forever. They were originally like a park skiing brand like super for the culture They've delved more into streetwear nowadays But always they always had a very keen eye for the best like most stylish skiers maybe not the X Games podiums or like the US freestyle team podiums or anything like that, but Yeah, man, they have a great taste in style. They've been doing it since shit man. Oh 2006

We used to have a couple pop-up stores here in Denver, but yeah, they're great. They're great and Yeah, a lot of our inspiration comes from My initial inspiration for them in like the 2010s when I was like these guys are you know? Yeah, the people that are supporting skiing from like the ground up, you know, okay. Yeah, it's it's fun. We kind of look at We don't look so much at the ski manufacturers as much for inspiration, right? But kind of like the clothing and soft goods we call it Surrounding but gibberish is crushing it like the way they've kind of attached streetwear to skiing. Mm-hmm. It's just really cool

Armada though, I think they do a really good job obviously a manufacturer, but they do some really cool Stuff and just have a good culture. Jay skis. I think has a great culture. A Thousand Skis. Capiche, who else? Yeah, Neil and all the core brands, for sure. Would you guys wanna see your stuff? Like, what is, I guess, I don't even know how to ask this, cause you don't wanna be the resort, the gift shop people. You wanna stand out.

I guess, is there a pinnacle, is there a goal? Is there, what is, I guess there's next steps, obviously you're always gonna want to continue to grow. Do you wanna see your stuff worn at the X Games, the guys doing the half pipe, do you wanna see? Well we don't do outerwear and we don't make skis, so it's not so much about like the the Olympic athlete Yeah rock and our stuff. It's not gonna be like Oakley or you know, whatever. Yeah, but

What I think one way to look at it is like think about skateboarding, right? They have all these like really cool brands attached to it that are kind of known for I don't know these soft goods that you wear around especially back in the early 2000s Yeah, right or like surfing especially same thing even though Quicksilver. I think just went under but We don't I think our plan is just to make a really fucking cool brand for skiers Okay for people that love to ski in the soft goods I don't know if we'll ever really get into jackets and India the abs and pants. We might, but for now it's like we're just making soft goods for people that love to ski.

Do you guys have, like if you had a dream collab or, like in the next year, you'd be like, hey, this is pretty fucking cool, this just happened. Is there anything? We've got a couple things cooking, I don't know if we can. Yeah, you don't have to ruin it. But we very much, we see partnerships

as a really easy way for us to just like, get introduced to new audiences, right, from a business perspective. So it's something we're trying to get cooking and we have brands in mind that we're currently talking to, trying to get it done. Yeah. Awesome.

Yeah. Trying to work with it. That's the end of this question. I don't like preparing things. That kills me. My other co-host I usually do this with, he has a game every week. And I started this and I'm like,

I should be the one prepared. And it drives me up a wall that I, like I could just sit here and talk with you guys for hours. Like that's just what this is meant to be. I don't know how long it's been. I don't either. It's probably been, if I'm guessing, close to 40 minutes.

Yeah. Yeah. Sounds so bad. I've got, almost, yeah. Yeah, do you have any questions? Yeah, I'm curious. I kinda do. Like we've talked about, obviously we're entrepreneurs

or whatever, we've got this business that we're starting, but you kind of, it's the same kind of arena starting a podcast, and it's something that a lot of people are doing, so I just kinda wanna hear, I don't know, what, a little bit about your journey and the thoughts going into it. Like how long have you been running? So this is, this has been three years in the making,

kind of. So I've always, I struggled out of college, being like, what do I want to do? I think a lot of us have. And I think I struggled more just admitting to myself I wanted to do a lot of performance stuff comedy- and so I was applying for jobs like in LA or Being like a talent I was offered a job in the mail room and a talent agency out of college I was like I I can't afford to move to LA at $10 an hour to work in a mail room

Like I just can't and I finally just like admit myself like I kind of want to do this This performance stuff I used to watch, talk shows all the time. This seems, everyone's having fun. And so I did this podcast thing as a way to push myself into standup, which is ass backwards in my head. I'm like, if I can release it to the world, like the internet, me talking, nonsense, dick jokes, whatever.

I can go talk to four people at a bar, my jokes. Usually you start like, let's start small and then let's go big. I was like, let's just, everyone can see this and then I'll go do it in private. And so it started as me and one other buddy, audio only, different name, and then he got a girlfriend and he just quit. I was like, well, I have this problem

with just stopping stuff, so I renamed it, made it just me, invited my friends on every week, just hung out, and I told myself at the end of the day, if nothing comes of this, and more has come of it than I ever thought would, if nothing comes of this, and more has come of it than I ever thought would, if nothing comes of this, I have hours of recorded footage of me and my friends hanging out. Like, which is so cool.

Like, one day I'll be able to show my kids, be like, hey, this is Uncle Connor, Uncle Chad, whatever, like, we're just, we're hanging out and just like, this is what we were like when we were 25. Because like, our parents now, they have pictures and stuff like that, or a few home videos. And now I can embarrass my kids. Like yeah, we were talking about stupid shit when we were 25.

I think that's how you have to look at things when you're in the arena, whatever, taking risks. Because you have to break it down and say, okay, even if I lose here, right, I'm still gonna get this out of it, right? I'm still gonna learn this, or I'm still gonna get, have these memories out of it. It's a good way to look at it,

because it gives you some sort of sanity when things don't work out. Totally. Because on the flip side of things, and this is where some people drive me insane in this media, comedy, whatever world, is you wouldn't put anything online if you didn't think it was gonna go well.

Like every time you post I'm like, oh this is our video, this is it. You're not like, oh we're just doing this, whatever. No, you can't be like, I just put it out there because yeah, I just wanted to put it out. No, you thought it was gonna do well. Yeah, for sure. So like you have to, like that's,

like I guess what I tell myself is like, all right, I have all this footage I can look back at. Which is, I truly do believe that. But then it turned into, I got less consistent with it. I got bored, I ran out of friends to do it with, honestly. And I was like, I'm sick of doing it with the same people that can't do anything with me. Like I was interviewing teachers.

And then I would do an hour video. I'd edit it for three hours when I didn't know what I was doing. And then the day it releases, I'd get a text being like, hey, can you actually not release that? Like, yeah, take it down. Like I could get in trouble. I'd go, why did you agree to do this?

I also told you right away. I was like, I would kill you if I could. And so I found two other comics and we did it together for about a year. That's when we started getting sponsorships. I moved, so we're through a rebranding again now. But it's become kind of like a brand, especially in Wisconsin, where it's synonymous with, I guess, obviously me, and we're doing events now, we've done live shows since.

We have the golf outing that we talked about, which if I ever bring it here, I have fun ideas I could do with you guys that I would definitely pitch to you, which would be so fun. Like having like every hole, it's a comedic golf outing. Every hole is themed with something. Like the first hole each tournament is four of my favorite comedians in Wisconsin

just berating the shit out of everyone. It's like, and you've seen it online, but it's like they just heckled the shit out of them for yeah. It's so good. It's so fun and stuff. Yeah, we did the first one on two months notice and planning something like that on two months notice is ridiculous.

Like we even got to the golf course, we're like, hey, this turned out like decently well, how long did you take playing this? I was like, two months, he goes, there are corporations that do this in like 10. And so I was like, all right, and we sold it out finally last year, it'll sell it again this year,

we're finally releasing it next week. But bringing it here, there's a bunch of new people, I met you at the bar, and this is like how I want this to go is I just talk to people I enjoy Yeah, have fun. It could either be serious. It could be funny connections and then through that I've built so many different like relationships and stuff like that. That is incredible for sure. Yeah Absolutely

We feel the same man. It's wild, isn't it? It's so, I love that. I love meeting new people. Yes and no, I'll get annoyed with people pretty quickly, for sure, but if you're doing something fun, I wanna know about it, it's cool. I'm definitely gonna pick your guys' brains after this about how you do all the clothing and stuff like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. It's incredible, yeah. Pretty open that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. It's incredible, yeah. Pretty open book. Yeah, no, I'm just very curious about it too because my dad, when he, how he's probably like 41. Your dad is 41 right now? No, no, no, no, when he was 41.

Okay. He started. Oh, I was doing the math and I was like, shit. Dude was piping when he was 11. Yeah. No, no, no. But when he was 41. Shout out 11. Yeah, no, no, no, but he was 41 shout out Mike. Yeah. Shut up Mike. He was a picking up comedy as well and doing a lot of the

Local shows and stuff like that. He ended up winning a local contest got it open for Shit, I can't remember his name, but a semi famous comedian and then ended up doing America's Got Talent He got he got censored on the show and things didn't go well. But yeah, no, I grew up with him being very into comedy and stuff like that. So I'm always curious about people's paths. Like getting into it. It's an interesting world.

Is every, comedy's clicky. I think everything's clicky. But comedy for sure, I went from a Wisconsin scene that I was pretty well immersed in. By no means was I at the top of the Milwaukee scene. But now I'm coming here, I'm like, I gotta start over. So I knew the producers coming here. It's definitely who you know business, for sure.

Obviously, your jokes need to speak for themselves. But I've had the opportunity to open for cool people and I go back to like, I wouldn't have gotten on stage if I didn't think I could actually perform or headline or do anything like that. But also in the back of your head, you're like, let's be realistic. This could go literally nowhere.

And I've since I've done comedy clubs, I've done a theater, I've opened for nationally touring comedians, I've opened for rising comedians, one that's come out of here who's killin' it right now. It's so fun, it is such a fun world. I'm sure your dad absolutely loved it. I mean, your job is literally to make people laugh. And if you do your job right, everyone in that room

is happy, and I don't know anyone who is upset in a room full of happy people. Yeah, it's such a crazy, I mean, I think most people's greatest fear is public speaking. Oh yeah, it was one of mine. It's beyond just public speaking, it's like, you gotta get laughs out of them. So, when you're on stage, are you,

is it something where you kinda have your jokes memorized, or are you very like dynamic and being like feeling out the crowd? It's both. It's both. There's so many different styles of comics and like I'll invite you guys to a show. Next time I have one.

Again, getting into the scene but I, everyone has different styles. There's a lot of people who are set up punch, set up punch, set up punch, just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, it's like a bunch of popsicle sticks going. And then there are people more like me where I like telling stories, it's more personal anecdotes

and what's going on in my life. Self-deprecating or you make fun of yourself or the people around you. And then there are people who do a lot of crowd work. So off the cuff. I like a mixture of the crowd work and the stories because I think the most true form of comedy in my opinion is the stuff that happens immediately.

I think jokes are wonderful and that ruins it. You could go on like crowd works or any comedy. It kinda is because every time you go to a show, everyone thinks it's their show too. So you'll go perform and you'll have people just screaming out at you. I go, this isn't, no one paid to hear you talk Yeah, so I've been shows like that Yeah, and it's it's miserable and you have some comics who handle it very well and some comics are like shut the fuck up

Yeah, and they don't handle it well, and there's different levels of it People are really good at dealing with hecklers people aren't and then there are people who try and do crowd work and they shouldn't Yeah, they're like, what do you do for work? And you're like, I'm an astronaut. And they just go, cool. And then they move on. There's a joke in there. Yeah, you can find something. Like, do something. It's so interesting because comedy,

I think it's just like live music, right? Where live comedy, it's just so much better. Oh. It's just like, I don't know. It's so much better and in a group. Like, I challenge anyone to watch Step Brothers by yourself, watch Step Brothers with 15 of your best guy friends. I guarantee you laugh 10 times more with your friends

than you do by yourself. Because the minute someone else laughs, it gives your brain permission, oh I can laugh, I can let it go. It's kind of, it's less embarrassing. And that's why I like live comedy is best. You're like, if you're in a dark room full of people, no one sees you, whatever, laugh your ass off.

You're having a good time. Dude, and nothing's better than seeing some guy or girl that's letting themselves loose and just like laughing until they're crying, like it's just fucking. Oh, those are the best people. When they're like belly laughing or they're like, this hurts, it is such a good feeling. But you also have nights where you're like,

yeah, I could run my car off a bridge, this was brutal. The amount of time, it'll happen to me, either tonight or next week or whatever, you'll go up, you'll do a joke that crushed, I mean, absolutely murdered the night before. And then bomb your dick off the next day, crickets. You think it's all crowd or maybe you just weren't, it was a bad day?

It could be both, because comedy's so subjective. It's like what you find funny, you might not find funny. Maybe in one city it's not as funny. Oh, the city, demographic, political views, everything. Oh my God, Trump jokes. Trump jokes in Portland, see what happens. Well you make fun of Trump in Portland, it's gonna go well.

You make fun of Trump in Northern Wisconsin, not as well. Yeah, for sure. It's, so good comics realize their audiences and they change their jokes up. They're like, hey, I have 20 minutes of material. I'm only getting paid for 10. I don't need to do the 10, that's not gonna work. You're doing another, like interchange it.

And then, so it's fun. It's definitely an art form. Totally. 100%. It allows yourself to be creative, which I think all three of us like being creative. You guys designing your stuff. This is the stuff you guys wanna wear every day. The jokes I think that are funniest,

I get to tell every day. It's a good feeling. That's just the ultimate test is like, do I find this funny? Would I wear this? Exactly. At the end of the day, what you're doing. But for you, when you have a bad day,

your bad day is in front of a lot of people it's in front of a lot of people, yeah. For Jason and I, it's just behind the computer screen. Some will be like, hey man, this shirt sucks. You're like, well, kick rocks. We'll move on. We'll move on. Yeah, but I think it builds character. And I think with anything, if you can push that aside,

it's like it's one person. Mm-hmm. Now, if you get like two weeks in a row where you haven't gotten anyone to laugh, we can revisit whether or not you should be on stage. Right, right. Like, if you guys weren't selling shirts and clothing and hats and whatever for two months straight, you'd be like, should we be doing this anymore?

Man, it, yeah. It's, you know, well, and whiskey is easy, it's so seasonal. Yeah. So we'll have, not that we won't have sales Yeah, it's you know well and whiskey is easy. It's so seasonal. Yes Well, we'll have love not that we won't have sales for a whole month or something like that But we'll have we're actually in it. This has been a bad month last month was fucking great this month I didn't even think about that Run out of inventory because we had a good month last month

And now we're just kind of twiddling our thumbs just waiting for the inventory to come back and it's like fuck. I guess like because of that seasonal and I started seeing the golf stuff on there. If you guys like, the name is Skiing is Easy so I guess people will be like all right it's all skiing stuff but have you thought about doing more of the golf stuff and like being able to like dive

into different seasonal markets? We've done more than thinking about that. We got some stuff in the works. Yeah, we did. I should've worn the hat. Yeah, we did polos. We just, yeah, we got our new samples for our hats. We got a really cool shirt.

The golf stuff is the one thing I would think about doing. Like I love the golf stuff. There's a lot of golf brands that I love, yeah. Yeah, it's like such a competitive market. I mean, even more than like skiing and stuff. It's saturated as hell. I mean, you see a new brand every single day. The same type of just like brand we're than like skiing. It's saturated as hell. I mean you see a new brand every single day. The same type of just like brand we're building for skiing,

you have I don't know maybe hundreds of them. Tenfold in golf, yeah. And I think the issue is with golf, everybody's trying that same angle of like, yo it's not that serious, like let's booze, like let's hang out. Oh yeah. Get a transfusion.

It's fun. Which I love, I mean that's what I grew up on. Yeah you just gotta find the one that fits you which is so much. There's no niche to really get into. But I think too, it's a market that is really, like the margins are really great because you've got a golf polo.

The cost to produce that polo's probably $10, $15, and they're selling it for $89. It's absurd. It's insane. It's absurd. It is absurd. It's the same cost for us to produce one of our heavyweight shirts, but we're gonna be selling it for $38, $40. Yeah, a little more reasonable.

Golf is expensive. I mean, skiing is expensive too. The barrier to entry, a lot of these things, is heavy. And I think, I mean, I have multiple thoughts, but it's heavy, but if you can, I like, that's why I like looking at your site, I was like, I wouldn't break my bank buying two, three things on this site here,

but you go to a pro shop or whatever, even the pro shops now are selling like the street wear stuff for golf. It's like, I'm spending $500 on whatever. Yeah. It's insane. You're getting the hat, the shorts, the pants, the polo, like, kid it out with the polos. Golfers spend a lot of money.

They spend a lot of money and golf is definitely more expensive than skiing. Like, you guys, we could buy an Icon or an Epic Pass for a couple hundred bucks and you can go all year to various mountains. You're not. I'm so sick if you could buy an Epic Pass for golf. I mean, but.

Yeah, and then you get like five, six courses. Right, you can play. What you can do for golf is, hey, give me 10 grand for the year and you can play this course. Right. That's it. The outerwear for skiing though, it's expensive. I mean, you can make it as expensive as you want.

Just like for golf, you go to TJ Maxx and buy some cheap ass polos, right? Which I've done. Oh, actually, the best place to actually get golf polos and you want them cheap? Costco. Costco, I love Costco. I've gone to Costco in the summer two or three times

and they have just $15 Callaway polos. They make golf clubs too. Yeah, and they're actually good stuff. Yeah, it's like equivalent to Titleist, I think they said. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of things come from the same factories, for sure. Yeah.

That is the one thing I've looked into a lot when looking into doing clothing and whatnot, and you see so many, when you do that research and then your algorithm becomes like, this is why you shouldn't buy Lulu. And it's like, just go to Who Makes Lulu. Totally. And it's significantly cheaper.

Who cares? You're paying for that logo is all you're doing. Right, exactly. After like really being in this business for a few years now, you just see that like, oh, it's all branding. Yeah, it is. That's all there is, yeah.

And you want people, and especially with the smaller expensive stuff, you want people to see you have that brand. Yeah. Well, people that really care about it. Especially those bigger brands that really have the economy of scales in place. Like, Lulu Lemon Polo is probably five bucks to make that.

It's disgusting. And then you go, I remember, like, these are Lulu pants. And I only have these because I had a gift card to Lulu. And when I was a personal trainer back in Wisconsin, you get a discount for being in the athletics world I was like alright, so I have a $50 gift card I have a discount for being in the fitness industry and these pants are still $65

That's disgusting Still bottom still bottom. I was like yeah, these are they're gonna last yeah, but I was like alright What am I also I'm not buying a hat, I'm not buying a fanny pack. But yeah, going to the main fact. In branding, I think the way where branding is going to, it's because every company's trying to compete to kind of carve out their market and resonate with their customers the most.

And it's gonna become a point where it's like this entertainment and the branding is gonna have to meet in the middle. You're gonna have, like, one of my favorite brands actually is called Sicko's, right? They have a YouTube channel. It's a bunch of kids. They travel the world, they ski, they serve this and that.

And they also, they sell merch, but it's like, they're taking a step forward. They're not just a brand, it's like, it's entertainment, it's a community, and that's the future of a lot of these brands, and that's kind of what we're trying to, I think, do with Skeen is Easy at one point too, is like, bridge entertainment and branding,

bring it all into one. That's kind of what we're doing here. It's like, all right, start getting, you can only do so much with, at least for me, guys are different, but I'm like, I can only do so much giving you guys one or two t-shirts, like the golf on you, everyone gets a t-shirt kind of thing, but I want people to be like, oh no,

this is the Fat Chance outing, like we're doing that every year that's in, like, because it's, an event is definitely gonna stick in your brain, everyone's looking forward to the concert, looking forward to their outing, looking forward to whatever. The entertainment thing is huge. And that's like, just in general,

I mean you're 100% right. The branding is gonna mix with entertainment. I mean that's like what Red Bull did. Like they had their cans and then the clothing now. They have athletes, they have, it's insane. Totally, even just for a lot of advertising and a lot of angles, now it's insane. Totally, even just for a lot of advertising and a lot of angles, now it's about showing the founder's story.

Yeah. Or the behind the scenes of the brand. Even something like a warehouse, an ad that could be the founder in the warehouse just trying on stuff. Those are really popular angles to run these days and it's because the audience wants to know that there's people like me behind this brand. Right?

People also love to see that, because everyone has a dream, like they wanna do something, they're like, oh, he did it. It's nice to see that, like, even though you know that in back here, like they're never gonna do it, but like, oh, someone else did it.

It's kinda nice. Like, they're attached to it. They feel like they're a part of it. But like, oh, someone else did it. It's kinda nice. They're attached to it. They feel like they're a part of it. Especially if you get them from the ground up. Like, oh, I'm part of the, it's a community. It's not just a brand, it's a full on community. Man, at the end of the day, whether it's entrepreneurship or starting a podcast, being a comedian,

you have to believe that it's possible. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I've found that my, my, my, my. Oh, yeah. And I found that my, my, my, exactly dude. Soapbox, go.

Why, like my, my stretch is where I've, it's been the hardest to get started the morning, get the work done, do this and that, it's because like in the back of my head, at first, whatever reason, I'm like, oh, like, maybe it's not in the cards. Yeah.

This and that. Oh, that happens all the time, yeah. I have to push myself to be like, no, fuck that. You can do this, it is possible. When you believe in your bones that it's possible, that's all you need. That's the gas in the tank. Oh, that and I think you need one other person

who's willing to do it with you. Again, the community thing. Which I never asked, how did you two meet? We met kind of through a, honestly. Shout out Colton. Yeah, no, I wasn't even really Colton, I feel like it was Serge. I grew up with a kid and he was studying abroad one year.

What was that, Italy? Yeah, I studied abroad in Italy with my buddy Colton, really good friend, and he went to Iowa. And so it was just mutual friends yeah yeah but what what really kicked it off was I moved to Breckenridge to live up there and Jace was already up there and that's when it was like a bunch of you know ski bums living together in the same town and yeah yeah yeah we just ended riding together honestly um but yeah our friend Sergio introduced us

I think at some some point at some some ski bone party It's been cool though because I mean me and Jace we were close before skiing is easy But since we've started skiing is easy. It's been like I mean there hasn't I don't know if there's been a day Not many in the past couple years that I haven't like talked to Jace There's been yeah sure been a couple, but just even just checking in. It's a really cool, I don't know, you hear horror stories about starting business with your friends or family.

But I take the opposite side. I think it can also work out really well. I think it can be really fun. It's like, what it comes down to is whether or not the business is doing well. Or success. And not that we're fucking the Waltons or anything, but like no, but you know guys have success We're scrappy and we're getting it done when I when I told my buddies that you guys were doing this

Like are you fucking serious? When did you meet them? Like a few of them like we'd love that brand. Oh, yeah Yeah, I talked to you guys about the brand you you guys were like, oh yeah, haven't really heard of it. And then I came back through, walking back out the bar, and your friend's like, oh dude, you run Skinksy, I've been watching. And honestly, man, it's just always crazy every time, because for me, it's just me pressing some buttons on a camera or something and uploading stuff sometimes.

I never see the brand from another person's perspective, and so I always see it from the way that I'm running things and, you know, might have, you know, however we're doing that month, I might have a different perspective on it or whatever. But yeah, it's just like, it's crazy to see people come at us and be like, yo, it's so sick. We love what you're doing.

Well, compare it to your projects too. I bet there was a point where you kinda started up and it was like, oh yeah, he's doing a podcast. Oh yeah, I still hate it. Like it's a little different. Like it was like a clothing, like do we love the clothing? We have one shirt that my girlfriend actually made and every time she wears it out,

five or six girls are like, we need that. I'm like, I need to sell this. Like I need to sell it. That feels good. But like you'll get people. Yeah, we can license this. Yeah, then we get people that are like, I need to sell this. Like, I need to sell it. That feels good. But like, you'll get people. Yeah, then we can license this. Yeah, then we get people that are like, so how's the podcast going?

I'm like, shut the fuck up. Shut up, I hate that. It's those ones where in the early days, you know, and even friends, and they didn't know any better maybe, but they would be like, oh, like, I thought you were just like, oh, isn't that, you're actually trying to make a business out of this.

Like, yeah, dude, I'm not fucking, what do you think I'm doing here? Oh, you're still doing that little thing? Oh, you're actually trying to make a business out of this. Like, yeah, dude, I'm not fucking, what do you think I'm doing here? Oh, you're still doing that little thing? Yeah. It's like, we ran an ad on Thanksgiving. I think it's our best performing ad of all time. It's this Thanksgiving meme where it's like, all the family's looking up and they're like,

oh, there's our little businessman. How's the t-shirt thing going? And that's like every yeah Which is fine, but you go from being like almost like not taken seriously at all to all of a sudden like They're asking for your advice. Yeah, the same family Like they've got people in their office that like know the brand and rock it and wear it like that's literally happened I'm just like dude. What the hell? Yeah I mean kudos to you guys. That's awesome.

Yeah. Then there is that time though, when like me and you, especially like after a heavy talk day, and then I'll go to the bar and be like, trying to blow off some steam. And then I meet up with my buddies and we're all drinking. And then everybody has an idea. You know, once the brand starts catching a little bit of

everyone's got an idea. And so then you ended up in a two hour business conversation when you just got out of work or whatever. Dude, what do you think Jason and I do all day? It's like we come up with ideas. Thanks for, oh, you guys should do an Opry ski t-shirt. It's like, what do you think? That's like, for me, everyone's got a joke.

Oh, really? People pitch you jokes? Dude, ask any comedian. Their parents, my dad my dad was all the time I just something you could talk about stage. No, it's not Like absolutely not like it. It's so many You know, we're talking it where's the noise this and that but it's like it's great my favorite one I ever got What was it it It was this January.

My buddy who actually just came to visit, he's like, hey, I have an idea for you. And this is like a joke. He's like, we should do a t-shirt swap for the airport. Have you guys ever done one of these? Like where you kind of buy a funny ass t-shirt for your buddy. You buy a funny shirt and your friends got to wear it and he buys one for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I'm like, don't play this game with comedian. Like this is a terrible idea. And he goes, let's do it. And I kind of forgot about it. And it's the day before I fly out to go to Banff. And I'm like, fuck, I gotta make this and have it printed out today.

Like custom made is gonna cost me way too much money for a shirt. But I'm like, I'm not buying one off Amazon. So I make a shirt and then I text my buddy, I go hey how bad are we going with this? He goes you could probably wear this to like a middle school and you wouldn't get in trouble. I go you could wear this to college

and your professor might like kick you out. I'm like this isn't good. So I make a shirt that says anal bead tug of war champion, 2024 XL division, white long sleeve shirt, and he gets me a shirt that says I'm swamped today and it's Shrek. I'm like this is a joke. Oh my gosh. But I make this shirt.

So that's why you don't do this with comedians. Yeah, I'm like hey man step it up. He's like I thought about one that just said bomb. I go I don't wanna be on a list, Jake. Bomb. And so I make this shirt, I'm like I gotta print it out, so I call this company while I'm at work, and I'm like hey can you print it out?

And I'm like he's just emailing me back and forth, and he's like just give me your personal number, I'm like what am I dealing with? And so I drive in the middle of my work day to go pick up this shirt, I open up the door, this guy's office is I mean like if the door's here, his desk is right here. It's a kid I went to high school with.

No. Yeah, and I've just, and I've been emailing him back and forth anal bead tug award championship shirts. I'm like I need this, and I'm like it's for a bachelor party, don't worry about it. Yeah, not exactly. He goes dude, this is so funny. I've been watching your stuff lately.

I thought about DMing you a bunch of stuff. My kids say the darnedest things. I have like two or three pages worth of stories about my kids that you haven't seen that you should go tell on stage. I go, do you think that's gonna work, dude? And he's like, just hear me out. I'll DM you in a couple weeks about it.

I go, please don't. It's just dude with a dream, man. I appreciate it, because it's all well intended. But I'm like, it is, if you told me a story, if I told you a story, I'm like, hey, go tell it on stage, you'd be like, you don't care about it. You don't, like, very few stories do you hear from someone else, can you then portray to someone else,

and it'd be just as funny. Very, very few. Man, storytelling, though, is such a, such a, like, I don't know, it's, some people, you have it or you don't. It's such a skill, right? You can learn to do it. I think the big one is trimming the fat. A lot of people are way too wordy.

You've all met someone who are like, dude, just fucking get on with it. I don't care if it was sunny or cloudy Tuesday or Wednesday. They're trying to build the world. Yeah, it's like, just get to the meat and potatoes of it. Yeah. Yeah. Good shit.

No, it's, man, yeah, it's a good one. Well, we can wrap this up, because this is gonna be over an hour, which is totally fine. Thank you guys for coming. Do you have anything else? Of course. How about this, plug your stuff that's coming out.

This is gonna come out next Thursday. Yep. So, your line's gonna come out I guess tomorrow, which would have been last Friday. Why not? And then we got a bunch of stuff coming out. Everything you have going on, look right into your camera. What's going on guys?

Why not collection? It's already gonna be out by the time you see this. So give it a shot, it's pretty sick. We're both a big fan of it. Otherwise we're gonna be in Tahoe next week, pop up shop, three days. It's pretty sick. We're both a big fan of it Otherwise, we're gonna be in Tahoe next week pop-up shop three days. It's gonna be incredible We're riding for the US mogul freestyle team. So check this out. We're not well You're right riding is the wrong word. We're gonna be there supporting them. I'm not doing it

Yeah, but yeah, we got invited to Tahoe. it's fucking sweet. We were trying, sidebar, we were trying to reach out to them for like months because we were trying to do this big spring skiing event. Crickets. One day, awesome, they just reach out to us. Apparently, this director, Christina, awesome lady, her daughter, huge fan of the brand, is like, hey, you should hit up skiing as easy.

And they reach out to us, invite us to this event. It's fucking, like, so cool. One of the best, one of the... Have you been to Tao before? Nope. 15 hour road trip. I'm gonna go so bad. I'm gonna hit you up afterwards,

so we know how it goes, yeah. But yeah, Skeen is Easy, baby. There we go, cheers, guys.