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Episode Date: January 23, 2023

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For free assistance, call the Connex Ontario helpline at 1-866-531-2600. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. yeah this is gonna be interesting i don't know if you know this he doesn't listen to music i know no you know so what the fuck are we gonna talk we've known each other for a while don't worry i got can we put on some music and get his reaction? Well, on the paywalled side. Got it. So the way we shoot the podcast, like we shoot the regular episode and then like. I got a bunch for you.

A second half is paywalled. You got a good brain. He's a, he's weirdo. He's like a fucking rain man. Savant. All right. Yeah. This is gross.

Like you're going to. Oh yeah. I got you one jazz jazz jazz um no no it's cool it's cool it's the same barge same coffee um no i got marshall nice nice nice bro i'm fucking you do too i do too doing fucking freak how do you think this engine runs for fucking 10 hours man two coff You have two coffees? I drink this and then I drink another one, yeah. I have two coffees. Anthony, you're oddly calm this morning.

Because we just fucking lifted, dude. Anything else? I don't know. We just lifted. We just lifted weight. Oh, you worked out? Yeah. How'd you do?

Great. He's fucking big, dude. Yeah. He is brawlic. There's a lot of strength that comes from that mustache it's not it's not the mustache i complain less than him oh for sure i i can play all the time about him all the time yeah it's my favorite thing but like the funniest thing is i do the work you know what i mean like i will always do the work no matter what it is sometimes to

uh to a fault where i like will literally injure myself because I push too hard. Yeah. But I will always do it. Rain or shine, doesn't matter. I'm going to get up 7 a.m., go to work by 8, be in there, working out while it's fucking raining on me. Which is, I'll do it, but I'm going to complain while I'm doing it the entire time. Like someone forced me to do it. You know?

Got it. That's just how it is this is how i how i roll um anyway we're gonna be talking about working out and stuff uh but uh before we do it anthony fantanos of the building ladies and gentlemen look at that it's crazy uh it happened the internet's busiest music nerd decided to not be as busy yeah you're don't look at that i'm looking at your insane camera operation right now it's not on that one right now okay okay okay i'm still busy this is a work weekend yeah i mean you're still busy our tour weekend yeah i know so what's up why the fuck are you doing a pr tour what's going on is the album coming out um i had uh i think some uh i've been wanting to come out here

and do a few shows and i think i just realized uh that i had a free weekend i was going to do this more in like may or april but then i just had a free weekend in january and i said fuck it let's do it okay nice yeah you were very like you were very matter of fact you were very business like uh you know like an adult you were like all right um and what's your address i'm going to be calculating like the map distance yeah uh and and plan out my entire day i'm like what the fuck find it find an airbnb in the area yeah just come through man i'm literally like 20 minutes away from every appearance i have to go to that's insane that you did all of that i did that's how you do you do it? Do you have an assistant? No, I didn't have an assistant for this.

This is actually kind of different for me. I've been very prone to kind of avoid stuff like this because I usually have a lot of travel anxiety because I have ADHD. But I got diagnosed in the last year and I've been doing a lot better with my symptoms. Is that what causes travel anxiety? Because I have so much travel anxiety.

I think you probably have for a lot of different reasons. I know it's the reason I have it. Because I tend to get overwhelmed with stuff sometimes. Speaking of travel, I still haven't booked any of our shit for Japan. No, we haven't booked any shit. We're supposed to go to Japan. We're not going. No, we're going.

We're not going. I'm 100% going. I'm going to... No. I will literally put you in the backpack. I will put you in a suitcase. You have dreams of staying in Japan permanently. It's not, we're going to Japan.

Yeah, I have dreams of going to Japan and staying permanently. Can I tell you the way not to go to Japan? What? For the week of heads up. No, that doesn't matter because I already have, look, my mind works in mysterious ways, okay? I already. No, you don't get to say that.

You don't get to do that when we're traveling internationally. Because we're going to get there. We're going to have nowhere to stay. No, I have all that lined up. We're going to have nowhere. No, you don't. Yes, I do. No, you don't.

Yes, I do. You know what Ludwig's plan is. No, no, no, no. You're wrong. You're wrong. No, no, no. You're wrong. I had the best guy.

I had the best guy on the job. Who's the best guy? Jake and Bake Live. Okay. Yeah, we have a 14-day schedule mapped out. We need to pull the trigger. Marsh needs to pull the trigger. See, I have tribal anxiety, Anthony.

No, I get it. I usually don't go out and do stuff like this unless it's all been set up for me. Like one of my worst experiences, and it wasn't even that bad. Again, it's just because of the anxiety. I went to Primavera Sound a bunch of years ago, which is in Barcelona.

Sure. And even going there, it was like everything was all set up for me. But I got like lost downtown at some point. And like obviously like my Spanish is kind of if iffy and like there was one point at which like i was literally like uh just like sitting on the bench on a tram line breaking the fuck down i was like don't ask all the biblioteca dude every time and like in the middle of like just being on the verge of flipping out like a handful of guys came and said aren't you anthony fantano i was like

and it kind of snapped me out of it and i was was like, yeah, I am. And I was like, you know, then they said hi. And I said, Oh, by the way, how do I get here? Where am I? I'm fucking lost.

Where the hell am I? And then they told me, and then I got to where I needed to go. And then, you know, so it was, it worked out, but like at the time,

you know, it was pretty bad, but, but now I feel a lot less, you know, but on edge about going places. Uh, the last time I had horrible travel anxiety was actually a trip.

Um, drag me on as well. We don't talk about that. Yeah. So it ultimately, outgoing places uh the last time i had horrible travel anxiety was actually a trip um dragged me on as well we don't talk about that yeah so it ultimately worked out because it created this podcast that that's true yeah we had a banger first episode like you know it was it was crazy it ended up working out like everything was held together with ticker tape as is the case with all of my you know productions that i'm in any way shape or form involved in um and we ended up in amsterdam for tushkani you and we filmed our first episode of the podcast in a boat it was also a recording studio for music artists i forget who the artists are that have recorded on it,

but it's like some crazy artists. It was this Turkish dude reached out to me. It's silent enough to make the music on a boat? Well. Is that like weird boat noises? There were not weird boat noises that I could discern because we were in a channel. Got it.

Yeah. It was cool, though.. Yeah, it was, it was cool though. It was, I mean, it was sick. We literally shot our first episode of this podcast on top of a fucking boat in Amsterdam and a canal, you know?

Cool. It was, it was all right. Now I'm going to throw one of those deep questions that are going to engage you mentally. Let's actually talk about something. Right. Here you go. Anthony Fantano.

Yeah. What's up? You are a music critic. I am. You are constantly music critic. I am. You are constantly consuming music. I am. Do you think the constant consumption of any medium eventually will lower your enjoyment of that medium

and make it harder to find things that you consider tens or nines? I think in concept that sounds like a good thing or sort of like it sounds logical, but I don't know. Every year uh even this past year i i find uh pretty consistently when i'm making my year and listen stuff around 50 or so records that i loved at some point across the year and again with this past year actually i think i was more in like the 55 or 56 range sure the year was over you listen to i have not listened to 55 songs since i've started the youtube channel i've reviewed over 3 000 albums that's in that's

too much music bro somebody actually hit me up the other day and i i often don't take the time to kind of reflect on how long i've been doing all this and how much of sort of a process it's all been this this fan of mine who i talk with every once in a while because they do this fun kind of air and edit of all the times that i do blank than he blank Tano intros on my videos, uh, hit me up and said, did you know you've reviewed over 3000 records? And I said, I have. And they're like, well, been doing it consistently reviewing four to five albums a week for the past this many years. And I looked at my YouTube channel and it has just under 4 000 videos on it and i did the math on that i even just lowballed it at four multiplied it by 52 and how many years i've been

doing it it came out to just around three thousands so you and i are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum of music loving versus music hating yeah which is weird to me because i don't on honestly i i can't even think of i can't even roast you for it because I don't necessarily come from a musical background. My dad's understanding and appreciation of music, for example, is probably worse than yours. Like he openly would admit to me, like, I can't tell you a Beatles song from a Stone song. And his first concert was a Peter Frampton concert. I don't think he'd gone to too many concerts after that. And, um.

Son, do you know who Peter Frampton is? I have no fucking clue who Peter Frampton is. But I have been to the Boss concert. Oh, you've been to a Springsteen concert? Yeah, I did. I hated it. I just don't like live music for the most part. I despise.

Not only do I not listen to music, I fucking hate live music. Like, I actually don't have it. Like, normally. Okay, let me just tell you this. No wonder you go to Coachella. Normally, when people. I do go to Coachella, yes. Yeah, because you don't give a fuck about music.

Exactly. That's why you go. But I very openly state that. I was shocked this year we went to Coachella. I mean, it's always a great meme to talk about how much Coachella doesn't give a fuck about music. But the main stages at Coachella sounded so abhorrently terrible this year. It was shocking. Little Baby sounded like a cacophony of small animals being loaded into a grinder.

And it wasn't his fault. Yeah, because gigantic sound systems in the middle of fucking nowhere just blasting out into open space the acoustics are all good yeah even i know that um i think i think my disdain my disdain for music starts off at an early age when my parents would like take me to the symphony all the time every tuesday night we would have to go to like the the philharmonic in ankara right and i was just like yo this shit sucks like i don't want to fucking be here and you're a kid so you can't really do anything about it yeah and they get mad at me if

i fell asleep you know what i mean and they would make me like we'd have to get dressed up and shit i just despised it so like as a process that so you associate music with trauma especially live music yeah and then and that that's like infinitely more preferable to obviously live music that you would listen to at Coachella or a music festival. And I still sometimes go. I went to the opera recently. It's whatever. It's not my cup of tea. You're not impressed by most things, though.

That is true. Except for infrastructure. It's very impressive. That is true. Except for infrastructure. It's very impressive. He loves parks. Back to Anthony. Anyway, yeah, let's go on. You do listen to a lot of albums. I do.

What's your process for listening to an album? It's kind of like watching grass grow, honestly. I mean, it's, you know, I'm just sitting there. I'm listening. I'm writing notes. That did not sound appealing at all. That sounded terrible. But the thing is, it's not sexy to watch.

The process itself is not what's interesting. It's the opinion that you get after that's interesting. If I did a live stream of me reviewing an album, it would literally just... I'm not doing handstands and dancing the entire time. You're not doing one of these. I'm just taking it in, and I'm processing, and I'm just contemplating, and I know having gut reactions positively or negatively to the

various things you write it down you're like oh yeah that ain't good do you think because you're so analytical in your approach that it's detrimental to certain types of music enjoyment it can be and it can't be i mean like you know one of the opinions that i consistently get roasted for again and again and again is the fact that like I enjoyed like the debut mixtape from Lil Pump you know which is like not a smart album not a record that really kind of holds up to scrutiny like Gucci I respect that that's good it's not a record that really kind of holds up to deep scrutiny you know it's not it's not an album that you really kind of mentally. My enjoyment of it is purely visceral. And it's like, this is really dumb and visceral and stupid.

And it's kind of funny and enjoyable in that sense. I have that take for movies, at the very least, where I will enjoy an arthouse flick or cult classics. But also, I do understand the appeal of like a popcorn movie like a blockbuster hit like i get it i'm not one of those people who's like oh fucking you know it's marvel shit sucks like i mean it does it's not great i've not seen a single fucking star wars movie or whatever but like um avatar 2 was great i i enjoyed it so i haven't seen it i you you will not enjoy it i don't know you would you would like avatar too anyway yeah um oh no but okay yes what does that mean yes

to finish the thought like and and while i did enjoy that record i didn't love it yeah you know it's like when i'm reviewing something and i'm giving it like, I don't know, a certain score, I see it as sort of like a spectrum of enjoyability, especially if it's landing anywhere between like, you know, a strong five to a 10. You know, to me, anything above that kind of like on the fence number is enjoyment. You know, it's just kind of to varying degrees, like an album, like for example, a lot of people consider to be classic and sort of like, you know, um, the modern rap and sort of like trap cannon is like, you know, futures, uh, dirty Sprite too, for example. Um, and that album has some bangers on it, but as an overall listening experience, it's very repetitive. It's very one dimensional, all the beats and vocals hit the same as like, you know, an album experience experience it's just kind of background music okay what i mean so while i do enjoy it on some level i'm not going to give it a fucking 10 because it's not

like over the top it's not like this super engaging experience it's like cool as party music it's cool as background music i feel like it has a place and it has a time and it has a function and it has an appeal um you know but but again i'm not going to rate something like that super high. This leads me into a game I would like to play. Sure. Uh-oh. This is called Anthony Fantano's Music Superlatives. Okay.

So we are going to list most likely to blank, and you're going to give us a song or album. Right? This is how you play. Ready? I got it. First one. Okay. Most likely to get you play. Ready? I got it. First one. Okay.

Most likely to get you laid. Most likely to get you laid? Yes. In terms of like you listen to it and you show it to another person? However you interpret that. Okay. Most likely to get you laid? Yeah.

You answer first if you have an answer. What? He doesn't know. I don't listen to music. I do, I do though. P-Power. P-Power. P-Power. You said that we're all P-Power.

Gunna. He's giving you other superlatives that you have to name. Wait, what? I am? Oh, yeah. Most likely to get you laid. Okay, well, I said P-Power by Gunna. Okay, okay.

Well, it's... It's Pushing P. No. Pussy Power is another Gunna song. Oh, my God. All right. Well, it's definitely not MF Doom. Okay.

Let me think. Damn, I knew a song that he did. Did you? Write that down. Write that down. I guess it depends on who you're listening, like who exactly you're getting laid with. But I think like, you know, being somebody who,

okay, some artists who would get you laid if you like legitimately enjoyed them and appreciated their music. Frank Ocean. Would be, shut the fuck up. Would be, no, even more so because everybody listens to frank ocean like you know i think i think as a guy if you want to sort of like identify with you know the experience phoebe bridges having out there romantically and emotionally like you probably should fuck with some sZA okay you

probably should fuck with some taylor yes you probably should fuck with some Taylor. You probably should fuck with some Phoebe Bridgers. Now, Taylor Swift. We have another host that is probably very satisfied by that answer. But wait a second. Most women are smart enough to tell when you're faking the funk. The SZA ex-boyfriend murder one is fire. I like that song. So you're saying you need B-sides artists. Yeah. So that they're like,

Oh, he's really, absolutely. You can't, you can't just, you can't just idly enjoy the hits. And you do have to sort of understand that, like,

you know, you are sort of like at that point, you know, you're an outsider to a specifically, you know, like a female experience that you're just kind of like looking at. You can't like, you know,

sort of like fuck with those songs on the same level like you know i think if you know one phoebe bridger's song it's a rap because there's no fucking shot anyone's putting it is it kyoto no i don't know any songs i would have gone with a little mazzy star like it's very sexy it's very sad um now hasan it's your turn create Create a superlative. Do you understand? Most likely to. I understand what the concept of superlatives are. Okay. Well, I don't know if they're in Turkey. Yeah, no.

Most likely to out you as a white supremacist. Tom McDonald. Yeah. That's a good one. That's fire. I feel like that's like basic. I was going to go like Varg or something. Burzum?

Right? No. I mean, Tom McDonald really kind of has the white supremacist ear. He's just like so easy. You can tell me if I'm wrong on this one. You can tell me if I'm wrong on this one. I like this artist, but I think he has a lot of weird appeal to certain groups. Danzig.

Sure, but I wouldn't say any more than maybe some metal artists generally okay fair you know like phil anselmo for example this is why he's the genius like phil anselmo has way more of a problematic appeal than danzig does like how many churches have they burned yeah who danzig i don't know as far as i know danzig is these are basic questions i'm asking about metal from just my you know as far as i know danzig has burned no churches zero church bullshit zero they don't they're not in the cut they don't they're not even in i really like danzig but okay yeah no so do i who would you say most likely to make you outed as a white supremacist oh i already i already said it varg uh burzum right yeah probably i mean that's like pretty i think it's valid or um what else what else in a way maybe like old punk but like

racist punk not like the like oy stuff like you know like the uk but that goes both ways yeah it could go both ways because like they have skinheads that are like anti-nazi and then they have skinheads that are anti-Nazi, and then they have skinheads that are pro-Nazi. Right. It's such a case-by-case basis, and it requires specificity, and there's way more anti-racist punk than there is racist punk, by a long shot. Yep.

Yeah. All right, next superlative. Most likely to impress Anthony Fantano. You drop a record on on and you're like, damn, that person knows music. no, no,

no. There's, there's such a thing. I mean, I guess, um, I can't even give a specific answer to that because honestly to impress me, like,

uh, I, I have a friend of mine, for example, who recently sent me a playlist and she, you know, I, I happen to like a lot of new wave stuff

and like obscure synth pop stuff and like um post-punk stuff and you know and she sent me like a playlist of just like tons of fucking shit i had never fucking heard of like you know like not these bands so we got to put together a whole mixtape right exactly not not these artists not not these artists example exactly like i'm thinking of some flagship examples, like, you know, Gary Newman, Devo, that type of shit, like loads of much more obscure artists in that vibe. And I was just like, I never heard of like 80% of this.

How do we feel about cream soda? I can't even tell you. I don't even know. You're out. You're out. You're outing me right now. Russian, like kind of Cynthia. I don't know much about like too much cream soda. Russian, like, kind of synthy.

I don't know much about, like, too much cream soda. Or, like, Russian stuff. Paywall. I'm pulling that up for you. That's going to be my most likely to impress. You don't fuck with the Russian EDM? Not that I'm against it. I just haven't really dove into it.

Seems like he's against it. Seems like you're against it. Yeah. Ice peak. We have an exclusive. Anthony Fantano hates Russian music. Yeah. It's kind music yeah it's kind of like if you if you can sort of like hit me to a bunch of stuff in a genre that i that i usually enjoy but i haven't heard of before or even stuff that you know i'm not that familiar with like that's that impresses me more than just being like oh yeah i

love this album that you enjoy too it's like like, okay, you know, whatever. Aren't you going to ask me what's most likely to impress me? Oh yeah, what's most likely to impress us? Ludwig von Beethoven. Jesus Christ. Me and LeBron. We both listen to Beethoven in between the hits. Wow. What symphony are you throwing on?

The 13th. Wow. Whoa. That was a strong one. Concerto. That was a strong one. Concerto. That one. Little Ludwig. Some light listening.

You know, the one with the strings. Golly. All right. I'm so good at this. Anthony. Everybody thinks I like music now. What was your first album as a kid? What was the first thing you were spinning that really made you find a love of music i had like uh uh i remember for at least a couple christmases i was kind of begging for a boombox

because like in 90s it was just boombox boombox culture yeah um and i and i eventually got like a little sony radio that i could you know just listen to the radio on or just like you know get the radio raheem like i it wasn't it wasn't that big no wait how old are you anthony i'm 37 oh okay that makes sense i was gonna say because like i didn't have the boombox generation but we were in the walkman and then discman generation right with like uh the g which i remember but it was later yeah but um but yeah it wasn't a crazy cool over the show it wasn't a giant one it was like a you know a smaller one and um you know i could play tapes off of it and also record songs off the radio too and um some of the earliest like first cassettes that i had were like rage against the machine evil empire nice the that bush album with machine head on it

i had a tlc's crazy sexy cool boys two 2 Men, Red Hot Chili Peppers 1 Hot Minute, Green Day Dookie, Offspring Smash, and any stuff that I could record off the radio from like Biggie, Dr. Dre, Tupac, Nirvana. So you started as a radio kid. Yeah, radio and MTV. Dang. I was watching like, know liquid television and you can't even tell kids now the impact that mtv had on music consumption yeah because you could actually see music on it yeah it was insane also nine inch nails you never got into total request live either did you well i was in turkey at the time too so i was in turkey at the time so i was in turkey at the time so i never experienced that but like mtv was formative for me because i jerked off to like a lot of the music videos

so like like christina aguilera dirty yeah britney spears toxic everybody jerked off to dirt you know what i mean oh tattoo all the things she said oh my god every week carson daly would like make the biggest deal like, salivating over the pool scene in Pretty Fly for a White Guy. And I remember when they sort of, like, you know, decommissioned the video. It was, like, the last week. He's like, we're saying bye to the pool scene. No more pool scene in Pretty Fly for a White Guy. I recently went to a birthday party while they were, and they were playing like old Limp Bizkit hits on the TV with the music

videos. And one of them was like him in a yellow Lambo in the LA canals to the LA river. I'll say it here and I'll say it loud. Limp Bizkit holds up. Oh, Limp Bizkit was sick. I disagree.

Limp Bizkit was so good. And I had, and I had those CDs. Like, like I actually, you can be wrong. It's sick. I disagree. Limp Bizkit was so good. And I had those CDs. You can be wrong. It's fine. I was on stream. No, I was of your opinion. I was on stream. I can't remember how many weeks ago.

I was like, it wasn't even just Limp Bizkit. I was like, guys, when I was a kid, $3 bill, y'all, was the hardest fucking shit. And I said, I'm going to play some of it.'re gonna hear it and i put on like you know um counterfeit and i put it on i was like god playing is so fucking bad the bass was off and the drums were off and it's like the band wasn't together and the mix sounded like shit and i was like this doesn't sound fucking good do you think you know it's like watching dragon ball like is it do you like new metal um i i was i grew up during that era so i still look at that uh woodstock corn performance of like blind like when they first came out and that that's like not all time there is like some earlier stuff from that era that does hold up like

system of a down's first record like the playing on that record yes playing on that record is tight yes playing on that record is extra dirty for me as a turkish man listening to you know that that those armenian boys out there in turkey at the time because like every time you listen to it people be like what are you listening to what one of the sickest concerts i went to is i can't even believe this happened one of the sickest lineups i went to for a show as a kid was like this this band that's pretty light. They're washed up now, but they were like pretty hard hitting at the time.

Their name is American head charge. They were opening. But then after them, I think it was a lineup after that was system of a down. Then after them was Rammstein. Rammstein played. And then the headliner was Slipknot. That's awesome.

That was, that was back to back to back. Slipknot was headlining over Rammstein. Yeah. Slipknot was huge. I mean, I listened to to back. Slipknot was headlining over Rammstein? Yeah. Slipknot was huge. I mean, I listen to a lot of Slipknot too. I'm just saying that like, it's wild. No, they were headlining it

and they had the biggest stage show because that was at the time where they had just, that was the first tour, I think, where they started implementing the stage feature where Joey would be on his drum kit and then it would elevate up as he was doing a solo and then it would do up as he was doing a solo and then it would do a 90 degree turn up so he would be like oh literally like vertical while it was spinning maybe doing

this super long drum solo with his drum kit flipped up and spinning in a circle and just and then it would eventually come back down ohio right um iowa iowa fuck i always fuck those two up i think i can't remember. The only thing that's ever come out of Iowa is not Korn. It must have been around the time that album came out. Yeah. Like, yeah. This is like Nostalgia Power Hour now.

Because Toxicity was out too. System of a Down was playing Toxicity stuff. Nostalgia Power Hour right now. But like, you know, it's almost embarrassing to look back at. But like when Triple X like came out, the movie. Oh, suck. No, not that. I think it was like wrestling.

Degeneration. No, no, no. XXX, the movie with Vin Diesel. When Vin Diesel was hard, which is such a weird thing to look back at, and Rammstein had scored it. I remember watching yeah i remember watching those music videos are going like oh this is so i love rammstein like when i was growing up they're still like touring heavy they had enough last year i reviewed it oh was

it good yeah it was decent okay their stage show used i don't think they do this anymore their stage show used to be like have weirdly crazy think they do this anymore, their stage show used to have weirdly crazy sexual parts, too. That's just German, I think. Do you know what they used to do on stage during the song Buchtisch, which is Bend Down? It's the song all about anal sex. No, tell me. No, I think the keyboard, I think it was the keyboard player,

the keyboard player would whip out this prosthetic dick and wear it, and during the entire song, it would just spray out this prosthetic dick and wear it and then and during the entire song it would just spray out this long stream of water like the entire thing and which of course like i can't remember the lead singers that is so fucking german there was a part there was always a point at which he would like bend over in front of it and they'd sort of like you know mimic like anal sex like on the stage and everything it was crazy they also were i remember uh they also were in like a little bit of trouble i think maybe because they would like they wanted to do this whole like reappropriation of like fascist imagery even though they were anti-fascist like expressly

and openly anti-fascist but they would like they said like you know they were going to look kind of nazi right which i feel like you can't really do as germans you know you're not really allowed to americans it looks weird like yeah even if like when you're german right you can't be goose stepping dog that's this is kind of weird uh overall it's great though they they have like you know some anti-capitalist messaging in their music like it was it was great um do you still have more superlatives or can i move on to personal that was just a fun game no no it was it was great um do you still have more superlatives or can i move on to personal that was just a fun game no no it was it was brilliant no no don't misunderstand me i i i thought it was awesome uh i want to move on to some some personal background stuff real quick

so um we're gonna talk about uh you know your background in a bit but before that you're from connecticut i am and if that sounds accusatory my tone it's it's deliberate that is a pejorative i think it's like i'm using that as a negative for those of you who don't understand he's never had cold brew before this is the first time he's had cold brew what yeah i only started drinking coffee recently i literally i was, first of all, do you like it? You're a very type A person. You're very in control. Yeah, I think I recently did one of those personality tests recently.

I think it was like ENTJ or something. It was a type A kind of. Those things are bullshit. Fuck you, they're not. Okay. Well, don't worry about that. But do you like the cold brew? Yeah, it's fine. What's your review?

Is it like a light seven i'm not i'm not totally seeing the hype honestly but i mean it's fine fuck i thought you were gonna be like that's a banger i don't really okay it's like i i guess here was sort of like you know kind of like um i guess a bit of a uh something i should have come to realize when i was much younger but i never really did much coffee or tea or whatever because i didn't get it because as my friends were all drinking it me being an adhd person always being at a point of like dopamine deprivation whenever i drink it i wouldn't feel off of it and i still don't it just really kind of calms me down oh i'm one of the most adhd people you'll meet i was one of the first 30 kids on that or all well it's like my dad was to put him on that they put him on that good shit

that's right my dad was the same way but he didn't he doesn't know he's adhd so it's like my dad was... They put him on that good shit. That's right. My dad was the same way, but he doesn't know he's ADHD. So it's like in order to get any kind of jolt off of coffee, he needs like three, four, whatever. You ever do psychedelics? No. No. Never? I have a lot of substance abuse issues in my family,

so I just haven't done any. Okay. Moving away from Connecticut real quick to... Not substance abuse in general, but we're on our way to work out. And I'm like, Anthony, you got some fucking big ass legs, man. You got some cannons down there. Everybody talks about it.

You got some. Yeah, you got hams down there. American cheeseburger. What's going on? You know, we're going to lift like what's your. I was like trying to gauge like what his level of expertise is and lifting is. I don't want to like drop him into this like weird scenario. He goes, my dad's a power lifter.

Really? Yeah. Professionally. He was a coach. Yeah. Just do it professionally. Yeah. So you power left.

I did when I was at his gym. So under that, his list was great. Like stable. Yeah. Under, under the pink sweatshirt. Yeah.

Yeah. He's a fucking brawler. He didn't under that. He was putting up the same amount of way that I wasirt yeah yeah he's a fucking brawler hidden under that he was putting up the same amount of way that i was putting up and he's like shorter than me and much beast mode yeah like i got 30 pounds is lifting a big part of your routine um i would say it used to be i i'm i like to go to the rock climbing gym now that helps with the adhd it's more it's it's like an adhd playground that's there's so many colors and there's so it's like really what do you listen to when you lift um usually like these

days i'm usually lifting whatever uh if i am at the gym and i'm just i've had phones i'm usually lifting to whatever the hell i gotta review next interesting yeah that'd throw me off i need dance music i know that's what i do but instead of music i listen to podcasts and like news reports that's disgusting people find that they were like he was like hey we need to put on some music you you do the aux whatever and i said okay so i'm gonna put on like some some hard shit i decided to put on some like ct metalcore i told him to play a hate breed i will be heard okay it was pretty good and then after that i played earth crisis five okay so you really threw him in the shit uh it just it felt that i mean it's good for dude i was telling him this like it it was not for me it wasn't even like

registering as music yeah it's so loud and so like it's just what's the word rambunctious so much going on as anthony fant, the world's busiest music nerd, does that happen a lot? I feel like that's kind of like when you're a porn star and people are like, let me see your dick. When all you do is music, people are like, hey, take the aux. Right, exactly. Put something on.

Do you hate that? Is there a lot of stress there? No, it's fine. It's fine? Yeah. Do you frequently blow minds? With like, hey, here's this thing that I listen to? Not really. It's fine. Yeah. Do you frequently blow minds? Like with like, Hey, here's the sting that I listened to. Not really,

you know, I mean, I feel like is like, if you're talking about like loud and heavy music, like, you know, it's not, you know,

hate breed is exactly like a deep cut. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I was just thinking about like, what's the most basic bitch, loud, riffy thing that I could think of to listen to right now.

I was trying to play funk like tiktok sounds basically you know what it is yeah it's just like it's like every viral song now on tiktok has like that element into it like i don't know how to describe it how do you feel about the mathematical element of kind of music and creating hits now where tiktok has basically taken what makes a hit song boiled it down to an algorithm and been able to package it as creating earworms that are inevitable like the snap of thanos's fingers i think it's fine i mean honestly i don't really i don't even think that's what a big opinion for me no i don't i don't think that's i don't think that's limited to TikTok. I think top 40 hits are designed historically

in a way that appeals to the largest, broadest audience possible. That's why it's fine. I don't really see it as that different. I don't see it as that different. I think it's the mechanical element of it, the computer element of it that saddens me a little bit. At least when it was some music doctor who had taken the time to figure out what made a hit song and moved around the

pieces like that made sense to me and i could look from the outside like that music sucks but people like it what do you mean who's the music doctor in what sense well there's producers that basically are on like rig rubin who apparently uh yeah like a Benny Blanco, like someone who's made like a hundred hit songs. I mean, those people still exist. No, I am aware. But for that, a lot of times I can look at it

from the outside and kind of be like, that sucks, that's radio music, I don't like that. But now it just feels like these songs are incepted, almost like they're mathematically perfect to get inside my ear

and just stay there. I think that's cool honestly like i i feel i feel like when it comes to making hit songs like the point is to come up with something catchy i i think i think it's a challenge to come up with something catchy i think there's an artistry to that and which i which i deeply respect i feel like um through the eras of music that i've existed during um as far as you know radio music and kind of you know radio being the testing ground for a lot of stuff during the 2000s like it was so fucking soulless and homogenized and shitty and while there are like a lot of you know cool hits and moments that you could look back on as

far as like pop and mainstream stuff you know with boy bands and pop divas and so on and so forth like you know it's it's cool to look back on stuff like christina and britney and backstreet boys and nsync but the thing is like everybody forgets like there were so many fucking b and c level artists that were also being broadcast with as much regularity that sounded exactly the fucking same you know when you were just getting exposed to the same shit over and over and over and over and over and it sucked 98 degrees oh yeah exactly okay lfo whatever but you know and and then after that as soon as we kind of transitioned into the streaming era it seemed like things were getting almost worse and worse in a way because uh then the it was the

playlist that reigned supreme and it was almost like a challenge to come up with the blandest most wallpaper thing that you could so that it fits in a playlist that people just kind of like listen to endlessly without breaking away from it or changing it or whatever. And I think that led to a lot of like come up with something as snappy and as quickly as possible has sort of like changed the game and made people think about like, okay, I actually need to think about a hook now instead of thinking about how can I make a song that is so one dimensional? It sounds exactly the fucking same from front to back and also sounds exactly the same as whatever song is playing before it and playing after it.

That to me is shit. I fucking hate that. It just leads to such just, I don't know, maybe as an ADHD person, it just makes for just a very soul sucking experience. You know, the downsides to the TikTok shit, and it's not even a TikTok thing, it's just kind of a streaming thing in general, because artists get paid of how many times you play a song now. And sometimes if you shorten shorten a song down you guarantee more plays out of it because people are going to play a one minute and 52 second song more times and they're going to play a three minute 30 second song so you know um the shitty thing now is that there are a lot of artists that are kind of like killing song structure i don't mind a catchy moment catchy moments are cool but song structure

is kind of going out the window because financially a lot of people are incentivized to just like completely break their songs down to the most bare elements. To that catchy moment and throw out the rest. Exactly. And just throw out the rest. So it's like you have that catchy moment, but you don't get an intro and you get a chorus, a verse, another chorus, and that's it. You don't get another verse. You don't get a bridge. You don't get an outro. It's just basically like in and out as fast as possible. And that's kind kind of what sucks but like i said um that's more of a streaming thing than a tiktok thing even if tiktok wasn't around we would still have that problem yeah you know what's what's kind of being eliminated um is more cool long form shit like these days you don't have a

band like godspeed you black emperor for example oh yeah which is like spoken word random really cool long epic 30 minute long tracks the car was burning right exactly like you know on an album that lasts 90 minutes overall because the thing is if you're going to make money off of that you have to sell records and people are not selling records like they used to and gods even godspeed when they do come up with newer albums like they still kind of format their music in the same way but like they'll do like such and such title part one part two part three part four so that they're breaking it down like five minute chunks so that they're actually getting that streaming revenue speaking of really long form albums that blew my mind recently just quickly and then i think we're gonna move off music we're no no i have two music questions okay quickly before we move off um do you listen to any floating points um yeah yeah

did you listen to their album with pharaoh yeah that was one of my favorite albums of the year dude i listen to that r.i.p pharaoh oh yeah yeah uh when i hike that's like my oh cool that that sends me and yeah and like it's basically one song. Yeah, yeah. Just different kind of instrumental movements and palettes. Kind of a lot of the same themes. That was one of your favorite albums of the year? Yeah, it was in my top 10.

Actually, that does impress me. I'm impressed that he's into that. Okay, what's one era of music that you, that we all just like collectively listened to at the time, but looking back at it, you're like, what the fuck was that? Modern country. I was going to say Mumford & Sons. So I guess it's in the same vein, maybe?

When you say we all listened to, do you mean in terms of like it's hip? Yeah, it was considered hip, but now you look back at it and you're like, why did every song sound like this? It was so strange. Okay. I mean, maybe it's just because it was a part of my youth but again just like a lot of rap metal stuff just like a lot of rap and new metal stuff like rap and new metal yeah there is some stuff out of that era that i like i can still go back and listen to iowa for example and that album still hits hard as fuck

but generally speaking like there was a lot of trash in that genre. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's fair. What about you? Do you have one? I mean, you said, I mean, I think modern country is it's, it's real bad. Some of it's good.

It is, but it's like the appeal is the, the appeal is really specific though. Yeah. Like it's, it's not as widely appealing as like maybe a band like corn was at one point. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. So broad appeal i don't know man i'd have to think about okay and even an even weirder cringier one if we're going if we're going even further back like into the 90s like you know during a time when the industry was like the industry and like whatever was hot or popular or relevant was like, you know, basically like, you know. Radio and MTV and so on and so forth were the testing grounds and it was just handed to us and like it was played more depending on whatever reaction was given to it. Like I would say probably like the swing revival of the 90s.

Oh my God. Like Cherry Pop and Daddy, Zoot Suit Riot, like all that shit was so fucking awful and so fucking cringe and like i did why did that happen again it's it's just you know throwing stuff out there randomly and just seeing what takes you know what's interesting i'm a big film nerd that revival bled over into film like you had a bunch of movies that kind of like the mask swingers yeah like they had these rockabilly 90s rockabilly content. Yeah, you had these like weird moments where it was like Zoot Suit, like brass.

Yeah, a lot of brass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just like, how did this happen? Now, granted, there were some artists that came out of it that were kind of cool, like Squirrel Nut Zippers, who Andrew Bird was a part of that band before he transitioned into doing more solo stuff.

The Mighty Mighty Boss Tone? That's Scott. We're talking about a totally different fucking band. No, it's- They kind of dress like that, though. I mean, but yeah. They were all in like the black suits and they had the DA haircuts. Sure, but as far as like musical styles.

As far as musical styles go. But yeah, Mighty Mighty Boss Tones, fuck. No, they don't. Yes, they do. That's insane. That's an insane statement. I don't even listen to music, and I'm like, that's so bad. What the fuck?

Ska music is, I can't understand. I don't know. Ska music's good. You're so white. Real big fish. We should play him some Jamaican Ska. I feel like. They're good. They're good. But we got to listen him some Jamaican ska. I feel like... They're good.

They're good. Okay. But we got to listen to some Trojan records. My second, my follow-up question is like kind of, I guess kind of related to it is, what do you think about EDM's mainstreamification in like the 2000, like late 2000 era and its impact on music in general.

Do you think it's an overall good thing or a bad thing? Like Avicii levels. Okay. Would you say that that was like genre defining? Like, cause I came to America in 2009. Okay. I grew up in Turkey. So I listened like Benny Banazi.

You know what I mean? Like a lot of- I'll actually take this one. but before hold on let me let me just explain what my reasoning is right like i listened to a lot of electronic music okay uh growing up in turkeys that's what it played on the radio right like in america i feel like that was not that was it was more rap hip-hop right rmb right um and then EDM kind of exploded. Swedish House Mafia. Yeah.

I was at the Winter Music Conference and went to Ultra in 2009. Strelix, Deadmau5. Yeah. Yeah. Like, people started listening to trans music. You know what I mean? Like, that was relatively a new phenomena in, like, mainstream American consumption. Right. And I think the overarching impact of that was just like,

it became a mainstay of like all pop music. You think that was an overall good thing or a bad thing here? I think I can tackle that one. I think a big part of that is the ease with which those shows are produced and pumped out. The setup of getting a live band or a live performer is very different than getting a mainstream DJ to sit behind his decks and press play. And there are some great DJs that'll spend great sets. I love EDM. I love house music, but the process of throwing a party around a DJ is a lot less strenuous than like what they used to have to do at like the Roxy and shit to get an artist up, get them up, bring the roadies, break them down, all that shit. Basically a DJ can go in with a USB stick and throw a party. Also has a lot to do with the party culture, right? Taking drugs and getting fucking absolutely annihilated is very conducive to house music. There's a very

fun, like consistent bop, bop, bop, bop, click, almost like georgio moroder i knew i needed a click on the track and i think like the first time that young people go to an edm show it's much more about the community element of it and then they have these like feelings of nostalgia surrounding those songs that right so billy ray Billy Ray Brains knows. Yeah, is that? Dude, every time. Is that track? I'll hear Sander Van Dorn and I'm just transported back to like when I was 18 years old

off my head on acid. Like, dude, love is darkness, man. Fucking, I'm in Pacha, New York right now. This is amazing. Oh, God, Pacha? Oh, no. Dude, that train. Oh.

Wah, wah, wah, wah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You remember the Pacha New York when it was open? He doesn't do drugs, he said. Oh, my God. So they had this train horn, right? It was an actual horn off a fucking train. It did not sound good.

It was terrible. And what happened was at like the height of your debauchery in Pacha New York, there was like a pit. And guys like Sonoray James and Ryan Marciano would like just have everybody froth frothing and then they would grab this train horn and just go wow. And everyone would be like, yeah, so sweaty, so gross, so sweaty, but everyone was getting laid. So gross. Um, you don't do drugs. So what do you even listen to EDM? Yeah, I don't think you need to. I mean, I guess, like, you know, let's also talk about the music, too,

because obviously, like, the culture around it is significant and important, like, you know, sort of the party element. But, like, if people weren't vibing with the way that it sounded, like, they wouldn't be going out to these shows. Like, I mean, you know, as far as, like, mainstream EDM, because there's a lot of different types of electronic music. If we're talking strictly about, like, the mainstream stuff, like, I think never has there been a popular music movement that is so formulaic but almost in an ingenious way because the thing is like it's literally

engineered to build up this really intense amount of tension in a very short amount of time and then eventually you get that drop that beat hit that thing you know it's amazing really that really kind of like visceral experience that feels really good in a live setting feels really good probably when you're high and even when you're sober it's like you know i i personally get the fucking thrill off of like you know uh like a track like bangerang for example like that song goes hard as fuck. And, you know, of course, like you're going to have a mainstream response to such like a basic thing, because I think everybody kind of gets that on like a really primordial level. You know, it's like and that's what I think. I think the appeal of that kind of stuff can be very sort of like almost almost like caveman like in a way, you know, it's like you're responding in such like it's such a physical experience.

OK, favorite EDM artists and least favorite edm artists one thing i want to add a lot of modern contemporary edm like is doing this thing that pitbull did years ago where they're taking like one bar one sample from a song that they know is like popular yeah and then building it out and adding just a bigger drop, adding more buildup to it. Right. And that has become like enormously popular. Okay. You don't have to call out Jack Harlow's entire album like this. No,

no, no, no. Like there are, there are a lot of artists in the EDC space that have, have gotten like enormously good at this. And a lot of it's, I think it's fucked up to do that.

Well, you know, what's funny is Jack Harlow is you can listen to his music and go, Oh, that is from like Fergie. That is from a lot of these to do that. Well, you know what's funny is Jack Harlow is you can listen to his music and go, oh, that is from like Fergie. That is from a lot of these EDC artists. Like you wouldn't know unless you really dumpster dive or go to some of like these older tracks and find these samples that they were even doing. I don't have an issue with sampling, but if you're just like ripping literally like a

top 40 song from the 90s and just like rapping over it the fuck are you doing it's just like that's just a the song i mean pitbull made an entire i know i don't like it although it's like a great example 90s the night crawlers i mean you know let's let's also talk about sort of the fact that like you know there there's such, like, huge variations between sort of, like, the European and the American strains of electronic music that sort of, like, influence modern EDM. Because whether you're talking about, like, primarily black artists making, you know, some, like, the, you know, earliest strains of house and techno in Chicago or on, like, you know,

the East Coast or in the Midwest, you have that east coast or in the midwest um you have that but then simultaneously you know you have like super early forms of electronic music like craft work you know coming out of you know europe and eventually sort of like you know in america you had all you had much more emphasis on sort of like melody and soul and groove and there's a lot of european stuff especially in the hardcore scene where you have like gabber and you know like these insane bpm levels that are like super fucking harsh and just like really aggressive and super fast and like the people at the raves like at these thunderdome raves would just be like good good good good you ever seen videos from sensation black um i've seen i don't probably not specifically from that

but i've seen videos of like the raves and stuff. Okay, least favorite EDM artist and your favorite EDM artist, if there is like anything that you could. I don't know if I have a least favorite. I mean, probably Daft Punk is my favorite of all time. Okay, that's what I was gonna say, thanks. But the thing is like, that's such a basic bitch take,

but the thing is like, I'm an albums guy. I'm like a concept guy. I'm like a big kind of macro picture kind of guy. And as far as like that's such a basic bitch take but but the thing is like i'm an albums guy i'm like a concept guy i'm like a big kind of macro picture kind of guy and as far as like that nobody's kind of really serving on that level in the same way discovery is top 10 albums of all time yeah but but but that's because like a lot of the electronic music scene there's nothing inherently wrong with this like a lot of the scene thrives off of like singles you know thrives off of hits doesn't it's it's not exactly the type of genre experience that like a lot of listeners or fans are sitting down like i'm gonna listen to an album now you know what i mean the thing that daft punk did is they sort of

like made almost like the pink floyd the wall type of format work in an electronic context you know and there's not a lot of electronic artists willing to do that because it's a big risk, you know, and the thing is a lot of them sort of experience or sort of associate the genre with more of a, you know, party hit banger visceral, let's just make a moment, make a whatever, create a reaction type of response as opposed to, you know, let's try to make the next Abbey Road, you know, and I think maybe there could be more room to do that. But again, it could be a big risk. It's not necessarily profitable. Sometimes, you know, you might end up sort of suffering because your record doesn't hit as hard as the next Skrillex single if you decide to maybe pull back a little bit and you make

something like the next Porter Robinson record. And it's like really flowery and pillowy and sweet and you know while it can be played at you know sort of like in in those more festival contexts it's not going to make the same you know it's not going to create the same reaction as like an avicii would i asked this question specifically because i have a least favorite and i and it's bothered me for so many years who's your least favorite afro jack okay i think oh no that's just because dude i think i can read your mind afrojack literally because you went to ruckers and ruckers was like the afrojack bastion of the world i've always despised afrojack's music i don't know why it doesn't sound like music to me and i don't know why everybody loved it. That unique sound that he played all the time is so fucking annoying to me. And I place Afrojack as the Ed Hardy of electronic dance music.

Because I think like people, like the worst people were rocking it and repping it for a time. And it just fucking sucked. And it still sucks. And there is no redeeming quality. Go ahead. Destroy my take. No, this is...

I can tell you what this is. This is like people who hate Bruce Springsteen that go to the Stone Pony all the time. And they're like, I fucking hate Bruce Springsteen. I hate his fans. It's because you were enveloped in it. Literally, Afrojacket...

It's like with Tool fans. You hate Tool because tool fans are the most annoying fans on the planet i love tool yeah no so do i but uh no i'm just saying i'm annoying um ruckers you don't understand afrojack and ruckers in that yeah he made music mathematically created for that yes for new jersey meathead we does love that fucking hated it go ahead explain tell me i'm wrong i mean that no i mean it sounds like it was it sounds like you were just overexposed to something no you're just being guided by what he's saying hit me on the okay well hit me on the meat of the you actually have to like give me some meat like what is it specifically about the music

that you think makes it worse or inferior to other edm i can't even say it's formulaic because like it's all it's all formulaic but like there was nothing unique and it just did not sound good uh-huh like the i don't even know how to explain that like the the horn you just feel like there were bad sounds in it just yes i just like that sound triggers the fuck out of me still and even before ruckers it was like your vietnam yeah pretty much i suffered you have ptsd you like afrojack i mean i had fun oh okay and so when i would go to i had fun too no i'm just kidding i used to listen to music when i was a music i would go to like ear Milk and like Hype M and all these things to like find the next thing. I understand.

The blog era. Yeah. I understand why Afrojack could be Bruxham. He had like a lot of like very like cacophony type builds is what I would say where they were just like. But I mean, at the time, I don't think he was any better or worse than a lot of people, than what people were concerned. I was always also like a progressive house fan,

and I never really liked, I was never even into trans music that much. Like, I didn't get the appeal of it. Can I give you my most overrated? God love them, the chain smokers. Oh, I mean, that's, okay.

Everybody's acting like I, like I said. No, that's the most normal taste. Yeah. Pretty normal. Okay.

Yeah. That was, that's like the most basic. I mean, I guess if you ask me for a least favorite, I would say as well.

Yeah. But I mean, their shit is so, I mean, it's true. I didn't even consider it because like, that's established. You know what I mean? What's your least favorite i would i would say as well yeah but i mean their shit is so i mean it's true it's just there's i didn't even consider it because like that's established you know what i mean what's your least favorite that like people wouldn't uh immediately dunk on sure give me that uh least favorite that people wouldn't immediately dunk on come on just say avicii no i really like well here's the problem with avicii avicii made one song avicii. No, I really like it. Well, here's the problem with Avicii. Avicii made one song.

Avicii made one song and re-released it a hundred times. How dare you? That's how a lot of artists operate when they have a mainstream hit. But Avicii was to a different level, man. Because Levels was like... Levels was fuck school, was ID. He ran that track back like 20 times. And to be fair, Penguin, was literally penguin penguin which became um oh my god help me like was basically the same song and then he did country shit

which i don't fuck with that was actually that actually yeah which is like what the fuck how did that happen like how do we let that happen and we went yeah that's great bromance bromance was id was fuck school was i mean those that was all the same song and he released it like five times and it was like but to be fair like i think levels has to be like a record holder for like longest staying power well i think it's been in radio i think it's been re-released to like wild success more than any other song. I just, I've never,

I, I mean, cause there was the James, there are not James Brown, Chris Brown version. There was ID. There was fuck school. There was levels and there was bromance.

And those are all the same song. Okay. And then he released it again backwards. Do you guys remember when that was a thing? The same song, but then he released it again backwards do you guys remember when that was a thing the same song but just played backwards that's crazy well we're we're gonna we're gonna move on to like actually listening to music but because this is on youtube uh we don't want to get demonetized we don't want to get copystriked so we're going to be pushing that to the paywall where anthony fantano teaches me to love the game the music all of that stuff uh maybe i will rekindle my love affair with music

after that find out on the find out on the on the paywall stuff you can get access to that at patreon.com slash fear and anthony fantano thank you so much for coming where can people find you what do you want to plug yes youtube.com.com slash the needle drop, uh, Twitch, the needle drop, tick tock, the needle talk a Fantano on Instagram, the needle drop on Twitter, uh,

Fantano on YouTube as well. And, um, yeah, we have a shorts channel on YouTube too. That's blowing up. So hell yeah, we're,

we're all over the place. And I think he makes some of the finest YouTube content. I watch a lot of his reviews, and I've never... Well, I like to agree with him, and I like more to disagree with him. It's a very fun thing to do. Go check out his stuff, please. All right, we'll see you next time.

They all look so fucking boring. Yeah, they're so relaxed. It's crazy. None of them are even breaking a sweat nice oh damn little upright bass solo that's like nuttier than some bebop jazz shit he's going off like he's playing notes but then also striking a silent note in between every one of the notes to get that... I do love that they are... Like, this guy's unfazed. Yeah.

All of them. I think the accordion player is the most unfazed, despite the fact that... Do you know how heavy that fucking accordion is? Yeah. Like, that guy probably has back problems. back robbers.