Fear& - Are Straight People Boring? | Fear&

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Oh my god. I think I have photos of these women. Look at these cross dressers. You didn't tell me there was a bunch of cross dressers here. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome for those of you joining us from around the globe to the fear and podcast where we are joined by an extraordinarily special guest, Emmy award-winning, Luscious Massacre, everybody. Oh my God, hi, I'm so excited to be here. You know what, we locked and loaded all the gay stuff
Starting point is 00:01:37 that we were gonna do for After Pride. Yeah, that's right. Okay, homosexuality has arrived. Yes, exactly. He took me to Drag Br drag brunch after Pride was over. So I was like, I'm not doing it during Pride. You know what I mean? I don't want to come across as too much of an ally.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah, it's too much. It's too much progress. Yeah. This is why they're coming. This is why they're coming for us. It's too much. Yeah, no. We need the gays to struggle more.
Starting point is 00:02:03 They can achieve more. 100%. Honey, listen, the gays. Yeah, no, we need to get more so that they can achieve more Yeah, no a hundred percent so we are peak art Cruising days people are out there in that you can't like just go to like a gay bar You have to go to like the park and whatever Some of the greatest artists of all time come from that era. Yeah. Now, also straight people are boring. That's true. Oh my God. We were at a party last night and I was like, Oh my God, straight people are
Starting point is 00:02:31 incredibly boring. Tell us about the party. They don't have anything interesting to say. The whole time I was like, what are we even doing? We're the coolest people there. What do straight people talk about? Jojo Siwa. We don't know really what they were talking about.
Starting point is 00:02:45 They just weren't talking to us. You know what it felt like? You know that scene in Get Out where everyone's like chit chatting and then the person goes upstairs and then everybody cuts. They're like, oh my God. That's what it felt like at the party. Was it like Get Out where they were like trying to steal your energy from you? They were scared of us, but they were pretending to be having a good time.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So how long have you been gay? Yes. But they were waiting. like be having a good time. So how long have you been gay? Yes. But they were waiting. I got bullied last night. Really? Yeah. And I almost got in a fight because I was like, I'm not going to take this. What did they do to you?
Starting point is 00:03:14 Well, I was waiting in line for the bathroom. Tell me your struggles. And some guy comes up to me and he's like, hey man, you know, hey bro, hey. Like, you know, the super nice guy faking it. He's like, hey man, hey bro, hey, we were waiting. We were actually here. Oh, okay. And I'm like, I, man, hey, bro. Hey, we were waiting. We were actually here. Oh, OK. And I'm like, I'm like, and I'm first, I'm like, all jolly.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. And then I go and I'm like, wait a second. I turn around to my people and I'm like, hey, wait, was he here? He got you. He got me.
Starting point is 00:03:37 You realize he's a line cutter. He got me. He's a line cutter. And this girl walked up and she's like, excuse me. And I was, my blood was boiling and I almost got into the water. I just identified it. Straight people are liars. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:52 They will lie to your face. Yes. And gay people are very honest. Like we tell you from this, when we meet you, I'm like, you know what? That's bullshit. Yeah. Not really. No.
Starting point is 00:04:02 The majority of homosexuals, we are straight in your face. That's what I've been trying to say the whole time. He is a serial liar. In the last episode, he lied about our co-host outfit. No, protect me, Lesha. No, no. He just, maybe, make us give the gays a bad rap.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Tell me. I think he's dressed like Aquaman went to Soul Cycle. What are his horrible qualities? Oh, let me tell you. First of all, illiterate. Illiterate. And not only is he illiterate, but then he will also be like,
Starting point is 00:04:35 no, gays just don't know words. No, that is not true. Like, what was his business? He tried to get business. Let's ask her, let's ask her. Okay, let's ask her. Luscious, I think that straight people have words that we don't know. They tried to convince us! Let's ask her. Let's ask her. Let's ask her. Luscious, I think that straight people have words that we don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Like besmirch. Oh, there's, I know besmirch. Even I know besmirch. Fuck! Let me tell you, the girls are besmirch! Well she's a straight woman. Also, besmirch is also a very like- The girls at home are besmirch.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's a good gay word. It's a good gay word. Oh, you besmirched me. Yeah, it's very fantastical. Yeah. Also, bismur... Bismurge is also a very, like... The girls at Homer bismurged. It's a good gay word. It's a good gay word. You bismurged me. Yeah, it's very fantastical. Yeah. It's like, you know, it's like, ethereal. Well, I had this theory that, on the podcast,
Starting point is 00:05:14 that nobody knew bismurged, and I ran that theory, and I called all my gay friends and none of them knew. Oh, well, yeah, there is a lot of homosexuals out there who are just very uneducated. I mean, but let me tell you something. He has a BA. I have a bachelor's degree. Yeah, he has a way to call it.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But it's in business administration. Open the schools. Yeah. Open the schools. But it's business administration. Like, who's, like, really? You know what I mean? I think Austin's show last episode,
Starting point is 00:05:42 I don't know if this is a bad quality. I kind of like people's little picadadilloes, but last episode was maybe the funniest episode of all time to me because Austin show refused to let anybody else do an ad read and he's horrible. And so all three ad reads were just a descent into madness. I see how straight people, he lost me. Oh, really? With all that, that straight, I cut right off.
Starting point is 00:06:09 See why, and tell me why. It was a little, you know, it just took me to a land of boring. I want to go to sleep. Okay, well, he came in, he came in hot. He came in hot, and he was like, I got this. And he had all this like confidence. He had the confidence of a man. I knew Hasan would break it down like a homo.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, he had the confidence of a man who knows what's up. Okay, it's drag race. He thinks he's got it. Okay, he thinks he's serving and then he did not. He served nothing. I'm going to show you Lush's house. He served nothing. He knows the gate lingo.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He knows how to speak to the homos. Because that's all his audience. What is it? What do you think it is if you really zero... And what is it about homosexuals that like you? Because I feel like the homos like him. They do. The girls. They do. The girls do like him. But he's more of a homosexual than Hassan.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We have to zoom in as to why... Who's tapped in more to the femininity? Because Hassan is wearing so much jewelry. He's giving drag. Yeah. And this is giving a straight man, girl. He's just got a t-shirt. Yeah, but you caught Will in the morning.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That hat has probably never been washed. You caught Will in it. No, this is luscious. You haven't met Will enough to know that this man. Remember how he came to the drag brunch? This is usually five hours before I wake up, to be fair. Okay wake up to Will would show up one time I in in and he wore high heels a one-of-one
Starting point is 00:07:34 YSL jacket and what were the pants? Uh-oh, I can't remember anyway regardless you're walking through San Diego and people kept calling him the EF slur and I was holding hands with another guy. How did you make you feel? Well, I felt proud that I could catch those F-slurs before they hit me. You felt the struggle. I did. I think he was jealous. He was like, why won't they say that to me? That was interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I did notice he wanted to receive the stars. I don't want to be called an F-slur because it's terrible, but sometimes I wonder. If someone else is getting all that attention. No, no, sometimes I wonder. These guys get called it more than I do. And I don't understand. I mean, look at what I do.
Starting point is 00:08:14 What's a guy gotta do to be called the EF slur? Am I not, I mean, I don't know what's wrong. And I don't want to be called it. But you know what I mean? Sometimes I'm like, wait a second. Well, we eat it, we eat it. Those second. Well, we eat it. We eat it. Those words that hate, we eat it. It makes us.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Lushes, you've only seen, Austin's a major code switcher. Okay. And you've only seen him like, call him out. Gaining it up like super hard, right? Right. So the Austin that we see is so different. Do you ever trip when you see him fully in method acting?
Starting point is 00:08:46 It freaks me out. The actress playing a straight man, because I've seen it too a little bit. Oh, no. He is always method straight man around us. Like he always is. Because I think like he was in the closet for so long, that that's just who he is more than like when he gaze it up. He built it as a survival mechanism to survive in the world. He created a character that is straight.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yes, thank you, Lush, for finally telling him the way. No, for sure, for sure. This is the trauma. For sure, I think the character became him. Like he wore the mask too much. Right, he ate the pill. That's right, and then he says, well, I'm cleaning it up, I'm code switching.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Do you ever, when you're like, when you're having gay sex, do you ever feel like that straight man is the one who's having the gay sex? Or is it you? Wait, are you saying that like, I feel a sense of shame? No, no, no, like, no, I'm saying that straight man Oh, he would get so turned on if he had that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Is that the straight man that has gay sex? Interesting. So like, in what, I'm trying to figure out what you mean. Because you know, do you ever throw like, come on, baby. The homosexuals, you know they love a very like a masculine man. Oh, so sometimes you also perform in the bedroom too. Yes. Yes. Yes. 100%. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm masked. I'm masked in the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:09:57 For sure. You see the gay struggle. Yeah. I'm learning. Do you see the gay struggle with this man? This man has to go through. I'm going to tell you right now, you're seeing like you're saying the gay struggle, watch this man, watch a Minnesota Vikings game. It's a hate crime. It's like a hate crime factory. No, I'm serious. She will scream at it. It scares me.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I'll be in the I'll be in the corner like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah, please don't please. Well, I'm a football fan. OK. And I like I didn't believe it. That was the actor. No, no, I swear to God. I know he football fan. Okay. You know what I mean? I like the way he plays football. I didn't believe it. That was the actor. No, I swear to God. No, no, he loves.
Starting point is 00:10:27 It's real, yeah, it's real. That's why I'm saying the mask is like who he has become. I'm telling you, he came out. I'm a weird blend of a person. He went into the straight world and he believed it, he bought it. So I'm this weird blend of person because I'll watch the Vikings game,
Starting point is 00:10:41 but then I picked you up. What were you listening to? Oh, listen. I'm'm very homosexual music taste. Yeah. Very homo he looks like Mariah Carey and then everyone's on how to throw like Chaka Khan or like something very old school and I'm like only a homo. Only a homo. Thank you for validating my homosexuality.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah. I've I've got a music taste. But let me tell you I see it in them too, a little homosexual. I feel like y'all also play a little character sometimes. That's a little more fruity than natural. We clean it up. Does the fruitiness ever feel unnatural,
Starting point is 00:11:20 or is it just you always is a natural place? I would say I'm more naturally fruity than he is. 100%. Yeah. He's a born and bred. You're more tapped into the femininity. Well, I grew up with straight gays, which are professional wrestlers. And also Southern dandies.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I think professional wrestlers. Showgirls. Yes. Entertainers. I think that they unlocked some of the best elements of being a flamboyant homosexual and a straight man. Is there anything extremely feminine that you do that you hide it? Because you feel like I would never let anybody see this.
Starting point is 00:11:54 But see, the cool thing about Will, in my opinion... Like douxing, like a bidet. Oh, I have a bidet. Oh, we got bidets. Let's see that. How loud, how strong do you turn on the water hose? I have two bidets. I have one that is These are how, how, how, how loud, how strong do you turn on the water hose? I have one that is for cleaning.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Okay. And then I have one that's like civil rights struggle power that gets in there. In there. Okay. Oh, okay. So you fully do it. Okay. So you do get douched in the bidet.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Oh yeah. Yes. I love that you, you know, a lot of straight men would never admit that. No, but see here's the thing, Lush is these straight men are very, I try to make them uncomfortable. I try to make them uncomfortable, but they like in their sexuality, but they're very comfortable. No, remember when we went to pride last year, and the the Ukrainian twink in the speedo was trying to get me to be uncomfortable and I smacked the fuck out of his ass.
Starting point is 00:12:44 He tried to say he's like, will you spank me? And so he sounds like, it was my friend Art. Oh, you're making spank for me? He's like, well, Hassan, will you spank me? And Hassan, do you douche with your bidet? I have a bidet in every bathroom, but that's because I'm Turkish. So I, no, so Turks- Turkish delight. Yeah, all of the Islamic world has bidets.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Oh, you have an obsession with a clean booty home. Yeah, yeah, we have like, that's like a very normal part of existence. Because it's almost like a religious thing. Yeah, yeah, it is. Like the booty hole has to be cleaned to feel pure. Yeah, five times a day when Muslims pray, they clean themselves.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah. Totally. No, no, it's real. No, I know, it's like a thing. It's a part of the religion for sure. No, seriously. No, and I live for that. Cause you know, it's cleanliness.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. Cause you never know. You never know when you're gonna need the booty hole. You never know. Five times a day, we clean our asshole to a tracer. That's not, he's cleaning his asshole five times a day. We are not facing. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:49 That's for prayer. You heard it here first girl. The booty hole. Listen, the pits might be just a little fragrant, but the booty hole is clean honey. It's just shocking that like Americans haven't gotten up with the bidetek. I don't understand it. Well, that's why I'm telling y'all are different because the majority of straight men in America have a phobia of anything with their booty hole.
Starting point is 00:14:11 They won't clean it. Yeah, they even have there's wipes dedicated. Yeah, but straight men will not clean their ass hole. Dude wipes. It's just so silly. It's like, dude, whatever. The shame on femininity. Now, the fear of femininity. I feel like you coffee
Starting point is 00:14:26 The cold brew wait hold on hold on hold on just a second blushes excuse me. Let me tell me I ordered you two ordered it from Kofax Did you wasteful we Orders did he order a coffee too, but did you order a coffee for him, too? Oh? Did he order coffee too? Did you order coffee for him too? Okay, just just want to make sure this podcast is usually chaotic and yeah messy. Yeah, we're all over the place Austin you're always going to the doctor. Are you kidding me? Will I'm always going to the doctor because I'm quite the hypochondriac and I'm concerned for my health But you know, it really ticks me off. What's that? When I go to the doctor and it's like, surprise, you're out of network.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Had no idea I'd get stuck with a big fat bill. Can't believe it. You know what I've been starting to use recently that's helped solve for that? Zoc Doc. That sounds fun. That's right. Zoc Doc. There's no guessing.
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Starting point is 00:15:43 and go to zocdoc. com slash fear to find an instantly Book a top rated doctor today. That's z o c doc dot com slash fear zoc doc dot com slash fear Now your research with straight men clean booty holes, I feel like you have Deflowered a lot of straight man and this is where the research is going. You would be surprised, but actually, no, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. I enjoy a man deflowering me. I'm the flower that's been through the ringer. But you have been.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Destroyed. You have been with many a straight man. Oh my God, absolutely. The majority of men that I sleep with, I sleep with in the feminine form. So the majority of them are men who are straight and who are attracted to, I have a theory. You know, the human race,
Starting point is 00:16:29 we really don't have answers to anything. That's true. I think it's not about male and female. I think humans are attracted to either masculinity or femininity. And I feel like the genitals really don't matter because I feel like if you are attracted enough to femininity, you will sleep with me
Starting point is 00:16:50 and you will have a fabulous time. And you will not mind that I don't have a little cookie for you. You know, I can't give you a cookie. I can give you like a pound cake, but you know, I don't have a cookie to give you and I'm so sorry for that. But let me tell you, they love the pound cake.
Starting point is 00:17:06 They do. They really do. They do. And they pound. They do. They really do. Listen, I want to get more into you because I think you are a fascinating person to me. I have this image of you at the Abbey pounding speakers, just chaos all around.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And my table full of lifelong performers are kind of all lost in twain. And I just see this image of you speaking into your mic in an audible volume fan on you completely on phase by anything going on. Where did you develop such presence? Did you perform for your family as a kid? No, I think I developed it out of like a desperation to get it to be seen. Because where I come from, like I come from Brownsville, Texas, shout out to the RGV, down in the south of Texas, like if you go five minutes more south, I'm in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Where I come from, we don't get these opportunities. Like people like me, you don't see, like even me being here in this podcast is like for me, I'm like, bitch, I need to go in there and have fun and just be myself because people don't see people like me every day, especially in, you know, in mainstream America. So it's for me, it's like I'm here, I'm taking the shots. I'm taking the opportunity. I'm here to entertain. I'm here to people. Listen to me. Listen what this drag queen has to say. That's one thing I love about our community is they're gonna be so warm to you in the comments. I can predict it. 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And then the comments about us are gonna be people. Chris the number one in the comments if you're cold. Oh yeah. Chris the number one if you're cold. No, they're gonna love you. They're going to be attacking all of us. Especially me. Yes, please. No, I think we get it
Starting point is 00:18:39 more than you do. Really? Yeah. You think you get more hate than me? We found out recently that almost 50% of our audience is female, which is like really much higher. The females consume and females are the smartest people on the planet. So that says something about y'all that y'all are stimulating. I didn't know that women watched me.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Oh, sweetie. Well, I have a... For what I do, do, like, I have a fairly higher female percentage on my YouTube than my counterparts in the space that I'm in, but this is much, much higher. This is like my early days Instagram numbers, like with the 50-50 split, it's crazy. So, look at us. What's your audience?
Starting point is 00:19:24 My audience is women, homosexuals, and a lot of Bricks. Oh, Bricks. What's a Brick? By the way, I love that y'all have Bricks here. Y'all have cinder blocks and Bricks. The Bricks are seen and represented here. Okay, so what is a Brick? I feel like a Brick is just someone in the world
Starting point is 00:19:42 who the majority of society, they don't see them. Okay. You know, maybe they're not conventionally beautiful. Maybe people don't see their value because maybe they're plus size or they look different or they're a minority or whatever it is. Like to me, I always say it in a shady way, but we talked about this last night. I am really good with mixing empathy and shame. Yeah, because this is my favorite video of yours,
Starting point is 00:20:06 it was when she did a video to call out the non-passable dolls you said. Yeah, I feel like those girls don't get love. You see a lot of love for girls who are very beautiful, very conventionally- The Hunter Shaffer. Yeah, you're conventionally very beautiful, sweetie, congratulations, you win an award.
Starting point is 00:20:25 What about the real people out there who cannot pass and who maybe look a little rough, maybe life is a little harder for them, they probably get bullied more, people see them and they're like, oh, that bitch has no value. If you only knew the value that person has. But people read, like they're so obsessed with the exterior.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And I'm like, no bitch, I want to know what's in the interior. Are you a kind, are you generous, are you fun, are you entertaining, or are you just beautiful but you have nothing to offer? I'm not coming for the pretty people, but honey, I live for a brick, I love a good brick. We're not coming for Hunter. Hunter, you're good to come on the pod whenever.
Starting point is 00:21:04 We live for Ms. Hunter. Hunter, you're good to come on the pod whenever. We live for Miss Hunter. Yeah, she's great. She got arrested for protesting Palestine, you know, for Palestine. I love someone who, especially in these times, a lot of people are tuning out. And I love people that are like, no, I'm tuned in. Yeah. And I am going to go protest because, bitch, we're going to have to protest.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah. Like we are going to have to process what's happening in to protest. Yeah. Yeah. Like we are gonna have to process what's happening in this country. There's no option, sweetheart. We're gonna have to go to the streets and grab a brick and throw it if you have to. Yeah. Yeah, she was so casual about it too.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Like she was there alongside the Jewish Voice for Peace people. Like she was, she didn't make a big deal about it at all. She was just there. She got arrested. And, you know, I feel like, especially like trans women, they're at the intersection of hate. So like it always revolves around like all of the different avenues of hatred almost always come back to trans people, specifically trans women. So for her to just like show up for another group of people that are also experiencing tremendous harm at a time when trans people are experiencing unprecedented harm was,
Starting point is 00:22:12 I thought that was really awesome. Well, you know, trans people are the, like you just said, they're the most picked apart because they're the most different. You know, everything about them can be dissected and people can hate it and you talk about it But they're also in the front lines because we're the ones who are gonna get the most hate We're gonna get they're gonna come for us the most. Yeah, so we're gonna have to be in the front at the front line like bitch you're just Distracting people by creaking making trans people the enemy and blaming trans people and queer people for everything
Starting point is 00:22:44 Honey, we're not doing anything. We're just trying to live our lives. We're not hurting anyone. We're just out here having fun and they can't take the fun. I think it's, I mean, I've talked about this quite a bit. This is like a big part of what I do is because I had trans folk opinions early on when I was growing up and I evolved from that. And I use that as a, as a way to like explain to people that they also, they too can, you
Starting point is 00:23:11 know, grow out, grow out of these like outdated opinions. And I've spent a lot of time like analyzing it. And I think one of the things that I've found that's very successful in like converting people away from transphobia is, is that we hold on to gender as this like incredibly rigid concept when it very clearly is incredibly fluid. Oh my god yes and one of the examples I always use is like Ben Shapiro. Do you know who Ben Shapiro is? I've heard, I think I've heard. He's like five foot four, can't grow facial hair, but he's like five foot four can't grow facial hair. He's like deeply transphobic, right? And he has like a kind of like a like a man, man, man, man, man. Like he has like
Starting point is 00:23:50 a little like a baby voice, right? And it's like, if, if we are both cisgender, heterosexual men and there is that big of a range between me and Ben Shapiro, then you should be a lot more understanding about like, how gender is not this rigid binary. But because we are because that's all we see from birth. And it's like one of the things that we associate with and we hold on to so desperately like, I'm a man. That's a woman. Girls can't play with girls can't play with GI Joe and like boys can't play with dolls that it's like constantly beamed into our consciousness that it breaks people's brains when they see like someone rip that entire dynamic apart. And that's why they get incredibly frustrated
Starting point is 00:24:33 because it's like the one last thing that they think they can hold on to about like normalcy and how they understand the world. And that's why they get so outwardly angry, but it's obsessive. I always say like transphobia in and of itself is like the real mental illness because they say like transfer mental illness. No, it's like transphobia is a mental illness because, um, they refuse to,
Starting point is 00:24:53 they refuse to recognize this is a real thing. And eventually, and this is what I wanted to get to. And I don't know if you know this, have you ever seen transvestigators? Do you know what that is? I was telling her about it. You know, you don you ever seen Transvestigators? Do you know what that is? Yes, I was telling her about it. You don't know about Transvestigations? Because my show on YouTube is called Drag Investigation. I know and I always think of Transvestigations. She's taking it back. She's taking it back. Oh my god. I mean she's already readopted Brick as like a pleasant term. But I didn't know was that it was. Oh, OK. It's a little bit of both. OK. Yeah, I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Empathy with a little bit of shade. If you didn't know yet, brick is like, yeah, you don't want to be called a negative. It's a am I a brick? Oh, what is brick? What does it mean in the street world? No, no, no. I'm saying in the trans world, brick means like, no. Well, I feel like, yes, sure. A brick is someone who is maybe a little hard or rough, you know, like, baby.
Starting point is 00:25:49 But at the same time, I lift it and we explore it and we push it to the future. And I want to show love to the bricks. Yeah. You know, the bricks need love too. Can you imagine being a brick? How hard that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He could never imagine. I mean, his life has been so pretty. When I do drag, that's actually ugly. I'm actually. That's an ugly one. I'm brough. When I'm doing drag. He looks like an auntie.
Starting point is 00:26:21 He's brough. These shoulders don't sell feminine. It's really funny. It's really funny because people will post photos of me in drag to be like, He looks like an auntie bra. These shoulders don't sell feminine. It's really funny because people will post photos of me in drag to be like, fuck you, you did this. And I'm like, bro, I still look more masculine than you ever were. Damn. I need to see this picture.
Starting point is 00:26:38 We can pull them up. Oh, you can look at all of our different drags. Oh my god. I think I have photos of you. Look at these cross dressers. You didn't tell me there was a bunch of cross dressers here. I love that. You need to explain your stories.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I think we need to encourage straight men. Okay, what's your feminine name, your female name deep inside your heart? Well, I go with Cherries Jubilee. Cherries. Okay, Cherries likes to get popped. Cherries likes it. What's your He didn't have that lock and look. What's your feminine female name?
Starting point is 00:27:07 He has multiple hair, Donna. Hello everybody! Oh my god. Yeah. Oh you have not seen this man. I did a whole season of a show. Oh my god, that is rough. That is offensive.
Starting point is 00:27:23 That is offensive. Please hire a makeup artist and a hair stylist. You got the money. I had one. This is on a network. Whoever got you, whoever got you, it needs to be stopped. They got you on camera, girl. You can't salvage, you can't salvage anything.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Oh, sweetie, this is rough. But let me tell you something. That woman, she would still get pounded by Trey. Yes. It was still with Trey. She would still get pounded by a tray. Yes She would What would you do if a man comes up to you starts hitting on you I in drag yeah I think I'd kind of go from oh hi. Hey, how you doing? No, I
Starting point is 00:28:02 Would for no as an experience you experience, you only live once. On planet Earth. Don't you want to experience that before you die? Tell her your drag sex story. I have had straight sex in Dragon, I loved it. Oh. Yeah. No, go deep.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Dig deep. Tell her the real truth. I don't know. Tell her what you told me. Listen, we grew up, okay? We grew up not the prettiest. Listen, listen. Okay, you were Bricks growing up.
Starting point is 00:28:28 We were Bricks, but we were, he and I also come from very, like, I would say traditionally masculine homes. And we were kind of like, we're both kind of built like ogres in our own way. Okay, I see it. So when I first got pretty, I made love to a very attractive woman
Starting point is 00:28:48 and I felt very pretty. You felt fragile. Yes. And delicate. Yes, because also up into that point, I was like 21 years old. When I was fucking, I was trying to put someone's head through drywall.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You know what I mean? Like there was a lot of built up testosterone. So that was the first time you- Oh my God, you like a butterfly yeah came out it would you remember what when was that how old were you 21 years old 22 yeah before that brick brick so that's the you were in what led up to that where you just I was it a haircut no there was a fundraiser we were doing a fundraiser and it was for I think it was for Trevor project
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, and they came to me and they're like well, you know You're you're always working out and you should they'd be really cool as like the ultra straight guy. You did this Oh, yeah, I was like, all right Yeah the straightest guy that we have and then I got a little drunk and then I start talking to this girl and then we Hooked up and I was still in my garb and then I started talking to this girl, and then we hooked up, and I was still in my garb. Wig and everything and lashes?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Tits. Yes, I had a bandeau, and the tits kept falling out. Oh my God, so you're literally, titties on her back. Titties on her back. Oh my God. And I loved it. Yeah. It was hot.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah, the way he described it to me was like, I felt so pretty. I felt very pretty. Oh my God, it was like you were a lesbian for the night. Yes. Scissor me timbers. Well, if there's one thing I know about you is that you like to push some product. I do.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yes, you do. Specifically your hot sauce. My sauce that's hot. Oh yeah. And it's absolutely delicious. When you were searching for a place to put it where were you gonna sell? Oh Store I looked everywhere, but Shopify was where I ended up landing. Oh really tell me about it Well Shopify is a must for anyone that's engaging in internet commerce
Starting point is 00:30:37 myself, Judy Cinderella and Hassan piker all Use it and what they do is they use a lot of smart methods like promoting a cart that's been built. How many times have you put items in a cart not checked out? Oh, every time, every time and Shopify will send push notifications to remind you. That's right. To make me feel guilty. I should have bought that. That's right. So that's why you need to sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today and Shopify.com Slash fear. That's right. Go to Shopify.com slash fear chitching That's what I'm saying will has had some morning ben shapiro, maybe that's what ben shapiro needs to have some drag make him
Starting point is 00:31:20 Change the channel aneurysm if he did drag once and he he would like it so much. Because he's like an art kid. He grew up playing the violin from an LA family. He's just, you know what it is? He's a bitter bitch. It's what it is. It's definitely at home. There's something about his life he's not taking care of. So he's not well.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And that unhappiness, he projects it. And his phobia is these queers, I have to come for the queers. Bitch, the queers at home, why are you so allergic? Why are you so obsessed with the girls at the home, at the house? I think it's the opposite. I think they treat homosexuality like it's fentanyl,
Starting point is 00:31:58 where it's like, if I try it one time, I'm gonna be hooked. You know what I mean? Like, stay away from the gay. Any little bit of gay and they're gonna get you. So maybe he's afraid that he might be a the gay. Any little bit of gay and they're gonna get you. So maybe he's afraid that he might be a little gay. So there is that, for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:08 You know what? To some extent, they're onto something because I tried it. Come on out, sweetie. Come on out, Ben Shapiro, come on out. I tried it, lashes. We're gonna welcome you and receive you. We're gonna shade you.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I tried it. So they're onto something. Will's onto something. But you're a gay. But you're a closet. What did you try, Ben Shapiro? I tried homosexuality. You were this. And then here you are. And then're onto something. Will's onto something. But you're a closet. Homosexuality. And then here you are. Ben Shapiro, this is your future.
Starting point is 00:32:27 This is what you can be. You too can look like Aquaman. Yeah, I never look bad. Let me tell you this man, he gets laid, he has fun. I do, I do. Well, you know what they say about the- Because you know Ben Shapiro, he don't get laid. No.
Starting point is 00:32:35 No. You know what they say about the Republican National Convention? Every time they're in town for something, the gay porn searches and the grinder go brrrr. Oh, let me try. Oh, let me try. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, no, they say about the Republican National Convention every time they're in town for something Oh, I gave porn searches and the grinder go This actually is something that I wanted to do with you segment go to the Republican National Convention Servicing the community for years. No, honestly, listen, I'm gonna talk about this. Dolls, we do a service to the community because a lot of these men, they're so pent up, they're so frustrated, and then they come and they sleep with us, and then they leave
Starting point is 00:33:12 and they're calm and they're like, oh, you know what, the world is right again. And so we do a community service by giving pleasure and entertaining us to these men. Blood is we need to send you into a swing state. Let me tell you, we are so giving. We need to send you into a swing state. We, let me tell you, we are so giving. We need to drop her like a paratrooper. We are so giving and we are so important for society
Starting point is 00:33:31 because without us, what would all these men do? Who would they sleep with? Lushes, I'm telling you, you could, the margins of these elections are so close. You could flip them over your votes. Bring the dolls in on buses. Bring us in on buses. Bust the dolls in.
Starting point is 00:33:44 During the Republican convention, bring us in and we will heal fascism. The dolls bake sale. The dolls will heal fascism. I wanna do a quick segment with you, right? Yes. Since you are the expert. So there's two different types of queerphobes and homophobes.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I think there is the type that we just identified, which is like maybe a little in the closet and like a little afraid of their hidden shame underlying sexual desires that they're like actively suppressing. And then there are people who are just like straight hateful like they're straight and they're hateful and they just like despise evil. Yeah, they're just like purely extra evil, right?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Because the repressed ones are sometimes even more evil than the straight ones. So the question I had for you, if we could look through this, is like Ben Shapiro. Do you think Ben Shapiro is straight and hateful? Or do you think he's a little, you know, maybe he's a little like interested in the closet? No, I think it's what Will just said. I think it's a little combination of sure, he doesn't like the girls, he doesn't like the gays, but he's also part of this machine
Starting point is 00:34:53 where he has to be fake about it. Yeah. And say he really hates them. He really, like, they're, you know what I mean? Like, it's fake. These people are fake. Marge, pull up Ben Shapiro reviews Wicked. They're all, they're all just following the leader, honey. I need you to just quickly glance through
Starting point is 00:35:11 this man's review of the new Wicked adaptation. And I want you to tell me if you think this is- You think he left it. Potentially, yeah. We just go to like one of the high notes. Oh no is potentially yeah we just go like the one of the high notes oh no they're all just fans of the dolls those are like right after most replayed is probably right after the ad that's probably why he's like skipping it but sure this could be one of the parts
Starting point is 00:35:36 I want to go through the numbers one by one because this musical as all music he's in full beads or dies on the numbers I know I'm a big fan contour I grew up on musical theater. His eyebrows are done, honey. In Israel, which we will be honest, I'll say Beverly Hills pencil. Warsaw ghetto uprising. In any case, as a big fan of musical theater,
Starting point is 00:35:54 a musical is only as good as the numbers and the production of the numbers. The numbers. Here we go. Here we go. Or looking at it as a libretto, that'd be a problem. But every time people sing, it's Stephen Schwartz music and Stephen Schwartz lyrics, which are good.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So we're gonna go through these one by one. They're not all equivalently good. I do have particular issues with the last number, but let's go through some of the numbers. Who watches this? Some of the numbers. A lot of people. No, these people are at home are not well.
Starting point is 00:36:18 That's so boring. I'm telling you, these straight people, I was already tuning out. My eyes are glazing over. That was the happiest I've ever seen him when talking about Wicked. And I think that like. I love he said the lyrics are good.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, no. Bitch, you must be gay because the lyrics are gay as hell. He loves musical theater. Oh Lord. Because he comes from that background. He's like, he's that guy. You know who Steven Crowder is?
Starting point is 00:36:42 No, I don't. Is he another hateful straight man? So no, this one is not a straight full hate. Look up like Steven Crowder, Planet Fitness. The straight full hate? That sounds like a Tarantino movie that Nepe got made. The hateful straight man. Oh my God, that is,
Starting point is 00:36:56 we're living in the hateful straight man movie right now. This is a guy that'll dress up as a woman. He loves, yeah, that one's fine, yeah. But he loves doing drag. Oh, he's a troll. He's one of those trolls. Oh, I think I've seen that. Oh my God, the break if I've ever seen that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 But here's the thing, here's the thing. Yeah, but this is offensive. He's like literally. He is. He is, he is, but also. Let me tell you something, this man may or may not be having sex with men in a wig at home. Yes!
Starting point is 00:37:29 Oh my God, absolutely. You clocked it! You clocked it instantly! He's a professional bottom and he knows how to douche very well. Actually, he might be just shitting all over them. Yeah. He gets that urge.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You clocked it. He's painting Trey! He's painting the Trey down. Let me tell you, this woman doesn't fool me, honey. I've seen her life story. Oh, shit. That is a very dirty, dirty girl. Like, even down to the socks, if you see.
Starting point is 00:37:51 A very dirty girl. There's like a level of attention to detail here in his drag that, I mean, in her drag. You know what's so sad is he is actually alive when he is wearing that wig. Yes. He's living his life. He feels so like, oh my God, I'm giving,
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'm letting them have it. He is lighting up when he's in that way. And that's so sad because society and his world that he comes from will not let him just live. He is feeling so much. If I just do whatever I want to do and enjoy my life, I'm going, they're gonna hate me. They're not to hate me.
Starting point is 00:38:25 They're not going to accept me. And so he's got all that internalized hate. But you can see he's activated right through it, honey. Sweetie, come on out. Another one, come on out, sweetie. Come on out. Another hateful person in drag. Can you please pull up Hassan Piker in drag?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Because he thought he could get away without showing any drag. He showed mine and changed topic. No, I told him the other day when I met him. Let's do it. Oh drag because he thought he could get away Look up Hassan Parker run a rough woman. Well, it was that it was that yes He's the one on the left he looks like he looks like an auntie did you just say he has pretty eyes his eyes look pretty crush on us on no no I That is my drag name. Pull his ass back up. Brick. Brick. You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:39:30 It's because Hassan is trying to give like sexy like he's trying to give Kardashian. You know what? Hold on. He's trying to give the Kardashian experience. I think you look good as an auntie. Like I think there's a place in the world for a woman. You both are frauds. Okay, do the main one. Do the main one. Yeah, a rough motherly face.
Starting point is 00:39:47 A rough motherly face. You wanna say Austin? It's attractive. Yeah, now see Austin. By the way, also, yeah, the worst of all of us is him. And it's crazy that he like tries to, are you kidding me? He tries to move away.
Starting point is 00:39:59 No, no, no, this one is fine. But that same night, that same night. Not in the lingerie, You're already ready for trade. You have no idea how many straight men will sleep with you just with that little dress on. Really? Yes. Ben Shapiro, they're right there.
Starting point is 00:40:12 The girls are right there. That same night, if you can find Austin in drag from that same night that I was in drag, that's awesome. I'm going to ask you this. Hold on, I'm going to ask a very, very serious question. If we could achieve world peace, but all you had to do was go and sleep with Ben Shapiro in that little dress, would you do it?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah, 100%. You would let him rail you. Yeah, I don't give a shit, yeah. For world peace. I've talked to this before, it's not even a question. Ben Shapiro, you can't. Please take the offer, world peace. Yeah, world peace.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It's at stake. People will be like, oh, would you like suck a dick for health care for all my chef. Yeah, give me the dick I'll suck it. I'll give a shit. Okay. Have you thought about the dick? Not really like the size of it what it would look like. I don't really care Whatever doesn't have veins on it. I'm telling you for Medicare for all I would suck whatever kind of Put something out there if I'm gonna suck a dick. Yeah. It's gonna be a big beautiful dick. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I'm not gonna wait. With skin. Yeah. A lot of skin hanging over. I'm gonna do it. And big balls. Hey, I'm gonna say something brave. I would eat pussy for a universal.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Wow. Oh wow. What? Hold on. Hold on. It's brave. Hold on. He needed it to be about him. Hold on. Hold on. Don't brave. Hold on, hold on. He needed it to be about him.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't let us have the spotlight, man. Cookie, honey, cookie. I just had to say it. Because they were having their moment. We were talking a little bit too much about penis. Yeah. You had to bring in the vagina.
Starting point is 00:41:40 It's so brave of them to suck dick, but I can't eat pussy and I can't get my. This is why he has to like, he has to straighten up. I've been so fucking quiet this episode, I had to suck dick, but I can't eat pussy and I can't get my he has to like I've been so fucking quiet this episode I had to say something His contribution to the episode was vagina Honey we're having a conversation about okay We're gonna come to share my world peace. Yeah before we get to the patreon. I do want to do something
Starting point is 00:42:00 I want to show the clip of you that I saw where I fell in love with you He showed me what he said. I found this creator influencer. I fell in love with please pull up You're the first guest that I brought to the podcast. Yes What is the name of the Walmart one? Um, just look up luscious mass. I was Scoring luscious massacre tick tock and then we can scroll I just want people to cuz you have what I love about you is I used to do stand up, I used to do improv and you remind me of like some great stand ups where the funniest part about you is your delivery. You just have this cadence and this rhythm that absolutely kills me.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And I don't know where you developed it, but you also have a few catch phrases that absolutely send me... Which I also, I'm very, like, it's very surreal living in a world where I have catch phrases, because that's genuinely how I speak. Yes. Like, it's not, I'm not like thinking like, okay, what's my catch phrase? I genuinely just talk like that. Yes. And so now when I go out, people are like, creature!
Starting point is 00:43:01 They scream in my face, and I'm like, oh my God. I have stolen creature. I use it all the time, I go out, people are like, creature, they scream in my face. And I'm like, I have stolen creature. Or I use it all the time. I go, creature. And the other one, bitter. All the girls are bitter at the house. This is the one. This is a little preview.
Starting point is 00:43:16 What is this? What did I do? Of Luscious' content. You were reviewing the Pride collection at Walmart, which was atrocious. This is geek. I love that. I have said, okay, I is peak comedy. I haven't seen this yet but I have so much smoke for like the rainbow merch. I feel like you can't you can't be liberated and then the more after the
Starting point is 00:43:38 moment of liberation when you want to turn it into like a consumable commodity make it so fucking ass yeah well you're gay what is this she clocks it yeah it's it's also a collection okay let's see we need some volume on this this better not be aunt this better not be it better not have reduced us to a little bin don't do this security where's the Walmart employee I'm here to make a complaint don't do this don't do this to you, where's the security? Where's the Walmart employee? I'm here to make a complaint. Don't do this. Don't do it! This little gondola accent? This little squire? Girl this is busted, this is atrocious. Look at this, the little rainbow hat honey, how much is this? I knew the shade and the disrespect was gonna be subtle honey, but it was gonna be swift and hard honey. You're coming for the girl, look at this.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Don't you do it! You can barely even see the front. The horrible two two Don't do this how much is the seven dollars and 48 cents absolutely Pride flag for seven dollars and 48 That's all you have right here? No don't tell me that. Why did they do that to us?
Starting point is 00:44:51 It's so small girl. Busted! The level of pain is the same. Okay pause. What effect are you putting on your voice? Because it sounds like you are an organizer at a protest. You have your own sound boy. I started putting them in my videos
Starting point is 00:45:09 because it just made it easier for me to edit the little trick. Because I edit myself. You do everything. I do. I'm a one woman pony show. And so I edit everything. And I started just adding these little voiceovers that I had done for a drag mix a while back.
Starting point is 00:45:23 So I had the audios already in my computer of just me randomly being like, bitter, creature. And I add, and now it's become this thing where people are like, we love, they love the little sound effects. Oh, it's the best. And people, and what's awesome about Lush is when we go out in public.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Oh my God. It's like, I'm talking. You could be the mayor of WeHo. No, like you get out when I first met you and I didn't know what was going on we got out of a car and somebody went creature and I went oh my god luscious. In a random place too like a corner in an alley. I didn't know what that was. I thought it was like I thought it was somebody being like a hate crime. Yeah I thought it was a hate crime. They somebody being a hate crime. Yeah, that was a
Starting point is 00:46:15 Can I ask you when luscious first started to take form like what do you think she was always there or do you remember? A moment in which you kind of started creating this forward-facing persona for yourself It definitely was from the world of drag, you know, like the in Texas, we're so obsessed with pageants. It's like we build a community, a safe space where we go. And it's almost like we create our own celebrities. So like in Texas, you want to become the queen with the crown. That's like becoming the star. And so I started in that world. And then, you know, RuPaul's Drag Race came out and it inspired
Starting point is 00:46:46 me even further. I was like, oh my God, I can see more. I can see more than just having a crown and, you know, being a local known person. I'm like, I can go into the world and spread my gospel all over, you know, and just tell people it doesn't really matter what anybody thinks about you or anyone's opinion The only opinion that matters is mine. How do I feel when I walk in the room in any room? It doesn't matter what you look like where you're from if you walk in with that confidence Bitch, you can these people in this room. I can't be bothered My opinion and and that's how we need to navigate the world. Your opinion is the only one that matters.
Starting point is 00:47:27 How do you feel about yourself? I don't give a fuck what Ben Shapiro thinks about me. So, Mr. Shapiro can eat my ass, and he'll probably enjoy it too. When's the first time you showed up as Lushes? I've been doing drag for about 11 years or 12 years. But yeah, it's Has she transformed from the first time she took the stage to now? Oh my god
Starting point is 00:47:51 Absolutely. Yeah, and for me, it's just more the confidence right is luscious yes that complete Insane person who is so in love with themselves. I am 100% in love with myself. I've come to a place where I can genuinely say that, but it took me a long time, because for so much of my life, I did not love myself. I didn't feel like anybody loved me. I didn't feel seen, but I had to see me.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I had to discover me. You know, like people, you go through life, and you know, you wanna be an entertainer, you, I don't, you know, like people, you go through life and you know, you want to be an entertainer, you want to be a star, you want to be an actress, and you're waiting for someone to discover you. Bitch, I discovered myself. And I realized, oh my God, I'm so sickening. And I have to go out there and let these people,
Starting point is 00:48:38 and that's the, that's Trek Investigations. It's me walking in a room and being like, bitch, I'm sickening. Who are you? Come over here, little girl. Show me this shoe from the rack. This $2 shoe, I want this. You know, like, it's just, you have to believe in yourself. And this is just me radically accepting myself
Starting point is 00:48:57 and believing in myself. And I can't be bothered what all of these conservative fascists think about people like me, because I will never see it. And I will never believe what they're telling me they see for me. Can I ask you a question? As someone who works in humor, this is a genuine question. Why do you think the gay community right now
Starting point is 00:49:17 has a better sense of humor than straights? Because it's just true. Well, it's because we have to, for survival, we just don't take it too seriously. You can't sit there and stay in that shant. A lot of people go to that darkness and they stay there. So it's a necessity. And they can't jump.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You can't change the channel. We were just talking about this the other day. I'm like, you have to be able to change the channel because you gotta keep moving. It's life, you only get to live once. Can you imagine something happened, right? And you stayed there and you stayed in that corner in that room in that dark cave. You just never came out because you couldn't just not take it so seriously.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Just change the channel, bitch. I'm gonna switch gears a little bit and I'm gonna throw some controversial statements your way. Okay. And I want to see what your, your take is on this. Okay. It was, it was getting too real for him. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:17 It was coming up. Okay. Cis white tops are the straight men of the LGBTQIA plus community. See, I do feel like that question was a little targeted. Wait, hold on, repeat that one more time. I got lost in all the terms. Cis gender white tops. I'm Lebanese.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Cis gender white tops. Are the straight men of the gay community. They're entitled. I can see that the male privilege. Yeah, the dick privilege too. Yeah, it's very real. Look, I think they deserve less. He's defending himself already.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Do you feel like you have dick privilege? A hundred percent. Yeah, a hundred percent. Because you're the one who provides the dick. So life... I know as a straight passing gay man I mean, I don't know how straight passing I you are straight passing But as a straight passing game
Starting point is 00:51:15 My game my queer experience is completely different than some of my opens. Yeah, some of my the whole Yes. Oh, yes, the girls are ready. Yeah, some of my queer... And the hole opens, boom. Yes, yes. The girls are ready. Oh, you're talking about my experience getting... Yeah, your experience navigating the gay world as a cisgender white top. The girls just lean over and the booty hole opens. I get rejected sometimes, people don't...
Starting point is 00:51:38 But it's rare. Oh, sometimes. It's rare. People don't, not everybody wants to sleep with me. But I have tremendous privilege and I can be like, that's what, not everybody wants to sleep with me. I mean, but I have tremendous privilege and I can be like, that's what I, you know, I like that. Penis privilege is very real. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Let me tell you. Sometimes I wish if I had a humongous penis. Yeah. I don't have a humongous penis. Well, if I did, I feel like I would already rule the world. Really? Yeah, the penis privilege would let me move ahead so much quicker.
Starting point is 00:52:03 These men have bigger penis. Can I be honest? Big penis is a straight man? Doesn't really get you that far. No. But maybe you need to advertise it. It doesn't? It does. What do you mean it doesn't?
Starting point is 00:52:13 It doesn't? No, it's the confidence that comes from it that helps you. It's not, it's not. I'm very confident. They haven't even, they don't really advertise it. I advertise it. Ha! And I haven't even seen it.
Starting point is 00:52:22 It's sort of an energy thing. You should go to a gay club. And just whip your penis out. I guarantee it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise it. I advertise gym and I remember at first I was kind of like, yeah, let's say, and then like a year in I would feel bad if I wasn't getting checked out. I'd be like, has anybody noticed? Explain that to me as straight men when gay men give you compliments. Yeah. What does that, what does that feel like? I think when I was unenlightened, yeah they do. I think when I was unenlightened, you get worried kind of because you're told that you know this is taboo or whatever and then you realize you're like You're a fucking adult with agency if you don't want to have sex with this person You don't have sex with this person take the nice compliment be an adult and live your fucking life. Yeah, I'll take you
Starting point is 00:53:17 Better coming from a gay man Women don't compliment men often because I think they're afraid that they're gonna team no They're afraid that you're gonna try and fuck them See, you know, it's interesting is I was it they don't want to give you the power We were at that party last night and I don't really care about women's attention. Oh at all I did like if that's a lie. No, no, no, you know, swear to God I mean, it's like a cool, it'd be a cool bonus if a woman came up to me and she's like,
Starting point is 00:53:48 oh, you, you would track the, you know what? We think homosexuals lie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no grab one of our friends who's a girl on the big. And you're gonna fold like a fucking lawn chair. You're gonna do this, you're gonna do this. Oh, oh, oh. He's gonna do that. Oh, who doesn't? What else am I supposed to do? You already folded, you're already folding.
Starting point is 00:54:15 What else am I supposed to do to do a compliment? We are talking about a man. I'm held captive by somebody giving me compliments. What am I supposed to do? I'm held captive. We are talking about a man who will present as straight sometimes just to see if he can hold the attention of straight women.
Starting point is 00:54:30 No. Come on. No. Yes. No. No. Please. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:35 We have video evidence. They cannot. They cannot have it both ways because they say when I meet girls, I code switch. Which is it, boys? No, you do both. You do both you do both what about the woman on the plane the one who was like okay okay okay there's a real story on the plane
Starting point is 00:54:50 with a woman yes he goes he goes she goes I wasn't holding no she does oh yeah she did grab me I get very nervous of flying can I hold you and Austin didn't say anything He thought of telling her he was gay, but instead he went, this is an app where you can track. When a woman, when a woman hits on me, it was rare, but when a woman hits on me, cause I try to give signs, right. But I, I try to get a sign, but when a woman hits on me, I get uncomfortable and I don't know what to say. I feel bad. Oh, I feel bad because she's hitting on me and like she's enjoying this. And so I hit on her back sometimes because I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:55:33 So they are right in that I get nervous and I don't know what to do. And I'm a piece of the conversation got very heterosexual. I checked out. Okay, let me tell you the heterosexual. We need to bring it back. We don't... Listen, we've heard enough about the heterosexuals. We've heard enough.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I got more controversial gay queer statement. Give me another one. Let's see if you agree or disagree. Let me have it. Okay. This is something that you kind of briefly mentioned when we first met. None of these are my opinions for the record, before people get mad at me.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Guys into dolls, even though they're straight, are a little zesty. What's with this new term zesty? I hate that word. The zesty, the straight. It's a little, I'd rather just be called a f***. Right, just the F-A-G. The behavior is a little bit in the world.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The unproblematic way of looking at it, the unproblematic woke approaches your pan, right? Or your questioning things like that. But do you agree or disagree? Or are they just straight across the board? You know, I think they're attracted to the femininity. I'm telling you, it's not even like humans try to break it down to, it's a man, it's a woman, all these things with gender. I think it just comes down to femininity.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Men, the majority of men, are attracted to femininity. So I think that's just natural. Now, when you say femininity, is that an image or is that an attitude? Is that energy? It's like an aura. It's a way of carrying yourself. Like I've had a conversation, I was dating this guy and he would be like, we would have sex and I would be a woman. And then after we would like, I would take everything off and just present as a man and we would go down and have lunch.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And he would tell me, I would tell him, I'm like, I feel like I'm two people. Cause sometimes I present as a woman for you. And then at other moments I present as a man for you. Was he not attracted to you in your male form? He was not as enthusiastic about my masculine form as he was about the feminine form. But he would tell me, to me, what I see is a feminine, like a feminine person.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It's your whole entire see is a feminine creed, like a feminine person, your whole entire aura is just feminine, regardless of my presentation. So that still attracted him and lured him in. You know, the dog pulled him in. Was it a mandatory that every time you slept with him, you had to be? No, I enjoy it. Oh, you enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I feel the most attractive and sexual when I'm a woman. Okay, okay, got it. Personally, it makes me feel the most powerful. Do you ever get, do you ever get traded and then they say, take it off? Oh, of course, they've tried to take my wig off and the whole time I'm like, no, you're gonna be, I feel like a man, if I take my wig off, I feel like a man.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yes. I wanna feel like a man. They're trying to undress you. How dare you, yeah, no, I don't want you. And you tell them no. I can't a man. If I take my wig off, I feel like a man. Yes. I want to feel like a man. They're trying to undress you. How dare you? Yeah, no. And you tell them no. I can't do it. I always have to wear like necklace, fishnets, some panties.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Like the whole experience, the skin has to be smooth and supple, smelling good, you know? And I'm sure that, you know, those are feminine things that y'all are attracted to. No, that's mine. So okay, speaking of which, this is actually a great segue into my other question. What I have in my hand is an iced coffee, which is also known as the gayest beverage. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Right. So the question I have for you is, what are some gay traits that everyone partakes in? That everyone partakes in? Yeah. I don't know, like, regularized gay traits. Oh, popularized? Like, something that a straight man does where you're like, oh, that's gay as hell, but you did that just now.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Masturbating to gay porn. Mm-mm. Yeah. Okay, that's pretty gay porn? Mm-mm. OK, that's pretty gay. That's gay. That's true. But they partake in it sometimes, don't they? I honestly have no idea what straight men.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'm so. You know what's fascinating to me about straight men? I'm interested. Is that a lot of straight. The straight zeitgeist. I don't know what they're doing. What are you all doing? Let me tell you something interesting
Starting point is 00:59:42 that I find about straight men. Is a lot of straight men when they watch porn They need another man in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you need a penis. Yeah, they had a penis in Nice one, too. You can't have a bad you can't have it bad What's so interesting to me is when I started watching porn and I watched straight porn I also needed a penis, but it but I wouldn't look at anything else. Okay, you would just look at the penis Yes, penis with what I couldn't look at anything else. Okay, you would just look at the penis. Yes. The penis would just be the man. I couldn't understand, but the other thing is,
Starting point is 01:00:08 is that a lot of straight men need the man to be attractive looking as well. Oh no? No, no. I want the man to be. Really? I want the man to be. No, some of them like an ugly man. I don't feel attractive.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Sleeping with a pretty girl or something. I don't want the man to look ugly. Okay. I can't, no, for sure. I need the man to be attractive. Do you need him to have a big penis? What? Do you need him to have a big penis?
Starting point is 01:00:31 Well, penis size isn't as important as, like if they have like a tiny one, then it's like, no, I can't get into it. Okay, so a decent size, he is a little bit of a size queen. But yeah, I'm a little bit of a size queen, but I think- What if it's bigger than yours? Does that kind of turn you off a little bit? No, I think he likes it.
Starting point is 01:00:47 He likes it warm. But for me, the major, the thing that matters the most is that like she's actually into it. Or at least like it's convincing enough. You need to hear her moan. And I feel like if it's like a schlubby dude who's unattractive, I feel like she's not actually into it,
Starting point is 01:01:07 so I can't get into it. Okay. That's my big thing. The psychology of it, the mental gymnastics. Because I've thought about it, because I have no fear to be like, oh, it's like a dude hot or something, like I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I've said it before, like if there was a dude that did it for me, I'd fuck a dude. Right, you'd be telling the truth. I just haven't yet to encounter a man. You have to find the man who does it for you. What do you have to be feminine you think? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Like a feminine man? Probably. Probably, yeah. With a wig on maybe. I don't know. It's never happened. Some panties. So we'll see. I'll tell you. I'll let you know when it happens. I think you might have a future,
Starting point is 01:01:47 like a future experience with a doll, I feel like. One of the girls could give you the experience. Maybe. Yeah. But my point is, my point is like, for me, it has to be like, it has to be as close to real as possible, like the enjoyment close to real as possible. Like the enjoyment.
Starting point is 01:02:06 The real, okay. Oh, the enjoyment of the woman. Yeah, the enjoyment of the woman. It's all about the enjoyment of the woman for you. Otherwise I can't get into it. Okay. And I feel like, I guess in my fucked up head, I feel like they're only enjoying it
Starting point is 01:02:16 if the dude is attractive. Yeah, okay. I like sport fucking. Ooh, what is that? Like super agro, athletic, physical. That's, yeah, Olympic athletes. Give me a fucking. Oh, so but the aggro athletic? That's yeah is Olympic I can be a fuck also, but the man needs to be like, yeah, give me like a back arch Give me like put someone in these stratosphere
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yes Certain level of masculine that they need. Yes in their. Yeah, see, this is what I'm saying. This speaks to the fluidity of sexuality. This goes to show you how the human race functions and how stupid it is that people obsess over the, well, you can't be attracted to them this. To be honest, I am also attracted to the femininity. In a man.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Yes. You need a touch. A little bit. A feminine touch. Just a little bit. In the man. I like, because if it it's too overwhelming like for example, these two men I'll find the room. You will need to be the that's right. Did you say a little bit you like twinks? They always say I like twinks but you you've met Christian he's like a twunk
Starting point is 01:03:21 Yeah, yeah He's a twang and he's also he exhibits a lot of alpha qualities. One thing I want to say is I do think one thing Hassan and I have noticed and one thing we try and maintain is by sorry, by us, by us being kind of bro-y and unashamed and unafraid to hang out with our more gay counterparts and friends. Yeah, we want to kind of subconsciously send a message to ashamed and unafraid to hang out with our more gay counterparts and friends.
Starting point is 01:03:45 We wanna kind of subconsciously send a message to a lot of young men that maybe identify with us less than being gay, less than being pan, and show them it's like, you can have way more fun. You can be way more comfortable if you accept everybody and you don't have to shut yourself off from this way of life. I truly think everyone should try drag
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah, I think straight man the straightest of straight guys should try drag and give it an authentic Try and see how you feel in the same way you were talking about What's his fuck Canadian guy? Steven Crowder Look alive There is a couple there are a couple conservative commentators that I know when they do that,
Starting point is 01:04:28 to like as a form of mockery in their mind, you can see a light shining in their eyes where they come alive. Where they're like, oh my God, this is who I actually am. And then they actively suppress that side of themselves. Like, I'm not making the argument that, like, all homophobes are secretly gay or whatever. Like, there's plenty of fucking straight assholes out there that are
Starting point is 01:04:51 super, super violent and vicious and evil. Matt Walsh is one of them. I mean, he's a fucking freak. Do you know who that is? I have no idea who that woman is. Don't worry. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Just do the right.
Starting point is 01:05:08 But like, but like, there are definitely some where you can tell you got it. It's not well, we will do more. We are going to dive into the transvestigations. Yes. And even who's in the closet as well in the paywall portion of the broadcast. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Luscious. Luscious. Tell everybody where they can find you, what you so much. Yeah, thank you, Luscious. Luscious, tell everybody where they can find you, what you're doing. Oh my God, well, my YouTube show, Drag Investigations, follow me on YouTube, Instagram, at Luscious Massacre. I'm on Twitter, TikTok, all the things. You know the doll.
Starting point is 01:05:36 And you're on Cameo. I'm on Cameo, book the doll on Cameo, honey. We're gonna check the followings, and if our community doesn't show out in force, you're a foe. Please help the doll out. Yeah, foes. Follow LusciousMasker. She's an icon. You need a little bit of more homosexuality in the world. A little bit more womanhood. Enough with the straights. Enough.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I'm tired of the hateful straights. We're done. Thank you guys. We'll see you on the paywall at patreon.com slash fearann. Peace. That man is just not well. It's crazy though. Do you see that? Do you see like the stage presence and the queen you're in. Peace. That man is just not well. No, I know. It's crazy, though. Do you do you see that? Do you see like the stage presence and the Queen of Donald Trump a little bit? I see that he's playing a character and he knows he's at the top of this thing that he has to
Starting point is 01:06:15 portray that. Which just proves more that he's such a sellout. Because, you know, deep down, he doesn't have a problem with queer people. He's so narcissistic, like he's just worried about his hotels getting peed on his face by just random women. Like he doesn't care about the queers, but he is playing that character. He loves Andrew Lloyd Webber too much to not be a little gay. He's a show girl.
Starting point is 01:06:43 He's an entertainer. But he's an entertainer who's run wild and has become a crazy raging narcissist. Yeah, which happens to a lot of entertainers. And he understands that I'm in a position where I have to be this, the face of this movement. And the movement is horrible.
Starting point is 01:07:03 And the movement is absolutely atrocious and it's horrible.

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