Fear& - bbno$ Bares All For Hasan Piker & Will Neff 😳 | Fear&nomula

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

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Starting point is 00:01:45 it's will neff is here everybody oh we got oh no we got i'm so glad that you're here man thank you yeah we got we got my co-host bb no money you know turkey armenian connection repaired yeah welcome to the conflict zone that's what we're calling it now. The conflict? That's actually a good name for the podcast. The conflict zone. The conflict zone. What's your most inflammatory political take? Are we up so early because you're flying back to Canada yet? No, I just have like two sessions today.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I got to make music. Oh, okay. My mental health is drifting and I make music to keep it at bay. I respect the shit out of that. I'm the same way at the gym. I'm low. Yeah. It is really, it's, like, super therapeutic for me.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Like, I think it's completely saved my life for sure. Yeah. I, your music is giving me a problem. I was talking about this earlier, but. It's like, I wouldn't say it's like a mental health issue but like i can't stop thinking about lyrics from do the lyric do it like it do it i'm a big bad hunter with the bow every time i think about you i'm like oh like bb no money's coming over like what should we talk about it or like you know he's gonna be here at nine o'clock or
Starting point is 00:03:05 9 30 immediately like i can't think of anything else it's just like it just keeps repeating it over and over again in my mind until i'm going crazy i want to like claw my eyes out i mean it's not even that's so you know how you were making fun of me for saying bag yesterday yeah it's bag i'm a big bag hunter with the bow. And it sounds like bad because I mumble everything, but it sounds like bad because you guys say, how do you guys say bag? What you've done to the English language is disgusting. Well, you're welcome, everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:38 That's not how words are supposed to sound. Okay. He says bag. Bag. And he says it so proudly. He's Canadian. He's from Vancouver. He's Vancouverite. Well, He says big. Big. Big. And he says it so proudly. He's Canadian. He's from Vancouver. He's Vancouverite.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Well, Vancouver's the closest thing. Vancouver's the warmest place in Canada. It's the closest pretty much to America. Doesn't like 75% of Canadian population live like two hours away from the border? You know that? Yes, I have heard this. Yeah, it's like ridiculous because it also happens to be the only habitable yeah it's literally just like not yeah it's not frozen
Starting point is 00:04:11 tundra so that's why they live on the border of the united states of america where it's like more livable we like to think about those places as like uh you know travel destinations for the winter for your to go there for like a little bit. Not livable parts of America. There's definitely some real hardy-ass people in Canada. Like the more north you go, they get tough. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 They get radically self-reliant. You know what I mean? They're living off the grid. Yeah, they get like your fucking show that you were watching. Alone, yeah. Wait, isn't that what they do? They do it in Canada. No, they do it, yes, they do it. fucking show that you were watching. Alone? Yeah. Wait, isn't that what they do? They do it in Canada. No, they do it.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yes, they do it. They literally do it in Canada. They do it on the coast, on the west coast. Wait, I think it is. What area is that? Is that Vancouver? No. So we go like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's Vancouver Island. Oh, in Vancouver Island. Dude, that's not like, that's not alone, bro. Vancouver Island's like beautiful. Nah, dog. Dog. Like a destination. There's a show called Alone. Have you heard this show?. Like a destination. Dog. There's a show called Alone.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Have you heard this show? I haven't heard of it. But it sounds like it's alone. There's a show called Alone. I think it's on Discover Network. I think it's pound for pound the best network TV show. Yeah, really. They just drop.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Dude, it is so disrespectful. First of all. Let me explain. It's insane. Let me explain. So this show started as like, are you an outdoorsman? Show us what like an outdoorsman you are. We're going to take you to the middle of ass fuck nowhere.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Get to choose. I think it's like seven things on a list of 20 things that you get to take to survive. Nothing else. And just show us how long you can survive for. And at first the the idea was, it was an opportunity for nature lovers to get into nature. But there was a cash prize, right? And then that cash prize-
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's not a lot. Well, the cash prize kept ramping. And then they changed it to, you got to make it 100 days. What? But we don't tell you how many other people are in the show still so you don't even know if you're winning or not and it's kind of just toxic it's mental these people go crazy it's basically like they looked at the concept of like tom hanks
Starting point is 00:06:19 cast away and they were like let's not put him on a tropical island let's make this shit cold instead let's make this canada they were like survivor yeah they were like let's do cast away canada edition okay and and one of the most iconic crazy they go crazy they go like they only have a camera winners of all time is this guy named Sam. And Sam was on multiple seasons, did not win. But one season he won. He literally just planted himself and was like, I'm not going to move. I'm not going to burn any calories. And he would just eat like a rat every fifth day.
Starting point is 00:06:57 He made it for so long. How is this not more popular? It's incredible TV. It's on Netflix. So I think they picked up one of the seasons, and then they DMCA'd Will, which is pretty funny. Retroactively DMCA'd him. Because History Channel made it for him.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Will was watching it nonstop, and then Netflix was like, yo, this show is sick. We're going to pick this shit up. And then they DMCA'd him after they picked it up. Wow. It feels so bad. So where was this in Victoria Island, which doesn't sound that bad. Your backyard. Wait, look it up. Yeah, it doesn't sound that bad. So where was this in Victoria Island? Which doesn't sound that bad. Wait, look it up.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, it doesn't sound that bad. You're unaware. Billy Ray Brains. I think it's Vancouver Island. But I think it's like this ultra remote part. That's like the thing about it. Like the Wanda Fucia era? I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:07:37 But the thing about it that makes it so brutal is it's like all rocks. So like it makes it really hard for anything to grow. And it's like, it's like all in hospital. They do it. Yeah. Vancouver Island, British Columbia,
Starting point is 00:07:51 Nahual, Haupi, National Park in Argentina, Patagonia, Northern Mongolia. Bro, I love that Vancouver Island is getting a mention in Northern Mongolia, Mongolia in the same conversation.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah. Vancouver Island, Canada is rugged, but it's not like that bad. No, because you're from Canada. You have no understanding. To us, we live... Look, these are houses. We live in California.
Starting point is 00:08:20 We live in houses. We have shelter. It's always 70 degrees. We have shelter! You don't understand this you think like oh forest like that's where we go to get our bag and you know the security woman in my building last night told me she's like it's cold out and i said when i was about to walk my dog and i was like how cold is it she's like it's like 70 degrees that's my woman right there she's right when it dips below 70 degrees. I was like, that's California cold. That's my woman right there. That's crazy. She's right.
Starting point is 00:08:46 When it dips below 70, I'm fucking free. I got sleeves on. You are wearing a lot of clothing. I got sleeves on. I'm cold. I straight up, I call it beanie season. Is beanie season all year for you? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:08:58 But I call it beanie season when it starts getting like 65 degrees in the morning. Baby no money. I want to plow forward. I want to know about baby no money. I want to know about what's going on in your head one of the things i want to know you're an artist what's on your deep playlist that people don't know you're listening to for me that's melissa athridge because i'm the only one who'd walk along you know what i mean yeah give me something from there. Deep rotation. What are you listening to? Paramore. I don't listen to
Starting point is 00:09:28 Paramore. Paramore's fire, but I don't listen to Paramore. I only listen to the one song that was popping on TikTok. That's my deep playlist song. Recently, I've been really diving into liquid drum and bass. Yes! You're into drum and bass? I'm actually going to make a drum and bass album next year.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yes! I want to do Jungle and a drum and bass album next year. Yes! Yeah. I'm going to do, I want to do like Jungle and like Jump Up and like. Oh my God. A bunch of like Belgium producers made a bunch of remixes to my shit. You just flipped my nips. You just turned me right on. So I met this guy called Brucey and he's from UK, like Nottingham. And he makes like, you know, it's like Liquid and like Jump Up and shit.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I saw his live set and it was insane. I've never seen more energy. So I was like, I bro, like it's happening. Let me, let me do, let me do vocals on it.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. I do like, I want to do fake vocals. Like, do you want to, like, why don't I get Dotto? You know,
Starting point is 00:10:17 you grant to throw my bass radio. Like, I'll get a, I'll get, I'll get like an interlude from you. What? Oh yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Something like that. Like, well, I don't know. I'll, I'll include you guys interlude from you what oh yeah or something like that like well I don't know I'll I'll include you guys on it but yeah drum and bass yeah I've been listening to a lot of drum and bass recently
Starting point is 00:10:30 it's just it's so much like so much flow to it you know it's so relaxing and like it has every type of genre
Starting point is 00:10:38 where it's like it could be really hype or really chill and it's also incredibly intricate yeah but yeah I've been listening to a lot of brucey and like there's this uh singer from the uk goes by piri p-i-r-i she's kind of like pink panthers i
Starting point is 00:10:52 like pink panthers a lot too she's dope i have absolutely zero under i just i know what drum and bass is a concept i have never heard these people i think panthers doesn't really make drum and bass does she well it's like it's like garage yeah yeah so uh like what inside outside um garage garage uh did you watch the documentary that amazon did at like the tail end of lockdown about um uk's rave scene no i haven't but that's probably it's probably a lot of ketamine in it so much but it's incredible because they talk about like every dj who is in you know the acid house scene and like the original house scene where like kids were going and like mass migrating to warehouses then their their first inclination was like how long is this gonna last like a month and then like years later yeah dude that's incredible um
Starting point is 00:11:41 i i love drum and bass i love live drum and bass one of my favorite performances of all time is i got to see pendulum if you've ever heard of them which is like fire yeah yeah um that's incredible man yeah you just flip my nips all right next question moving on ready here you go i'm gonna blow your mind what the door handle all right guys the door handle broke so we're taking a two second uh ad break and this is sponsored by batman batman please give us on a million dollars because he needs it yeah that's really yeah he he called me this morning he was like damn bro i'm broke as hell i need i need a million dollars from Batman. This is my next question. You have amazing Armenian hair.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Why do you always wear a beanie? I don't have amazing hair. You have amazing hair. I have amazing hair because I don't wash it. Pop that top off. Let's take a look. It's also super wet and greasy right now. That is amazing hair.
Starting point is 00:12:39 We talked about this. Oh, dude, your whites are coming in on the left side. It's crazy. In the same way that it's coming in for me. It's crazy, right? Yeah. It's kind of sick. That's not from, like, the therapy get-go or something?
Starting point is 00:12:50 This is from stress. How old are you, BB? No, I'm 27. 27? You got whites coming in? I mean, do you sleep well? Genuinely. Not when I was 27.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I think I sleep better now than I... I got this biometrics tracker shit. Like, is it? I don't I don't recommend it for anyone unless you're like an obsessive psycho like I am. He's laughing. But like, I literally, I literally my sleep. I track my sleep. I track my like daily, you know, caloric output.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Do you think that's weird at all though? That like I can wake up and I go, hmm, I feel good. I got some good sleep or I feel like shit. I got some bad sleep. You need to look at your phone. No, no, no. I can tell.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You're like, you got two. Can I take one? What? I don't have two, unfortunately. I'll buy one. Send it, send this to me. Cause I actually really. This one is like not super expensive.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Oh shit. This one is not super expensive, but the problem is we've got to fight it out. Thunderdome, baby. You want this, right? Yeah, unless you want it. I'll have a sip or two. Are you not a coffee guy? I am a coffee guy.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I just can't. When I have too much coffee, it really... That's when the real creative juice kicks in. No, that's when I start having a nervous... We'll have the food on the paywalled side. Are you a type A person? Type A, yeah. Like very organized, meticulously kept?
Starting point is 00:14:14 I like to think I am relatively organized. I keep a lot. I don't... So let's say I have a to-do list. Every single day I wake up, I write exactly what I'm going to do that day. I always get done. Okay okay that's type a wait we were we were talking we were talking about uh sleep cycles yeah yeah i know okay listen listen no i know when i'm tired i know when i'm i know when i'm not tired obviously like i'm not like crazy crazy. But what this ends up helping me with is mostly it ends up helping me recognize when I'm being super sedentary
Starting point is 00:14:49 and what kind of impact it has on my like my calorie. Where you stream 10 hours a day, of course. Yeah. So when I do that. No, so when I do that. Oh, my God. I mean, dude, it is helpful. It is helpful in like tracking.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Listen, I have a tracker. It helps me with calories. Absolutely. I fuck with that. I fuck with the heart rate. I mean, there's a few fundamental things of, quote, being healthy. And like, if you can just track half of them, fuck it. Why not? Like, you are a healthy individual. I try to be, yeah. I definitely was way less healthy back in the day than I am now.
Starting point is 00:15:24 But, because the older you get the more your body starts breaking down that's true when i was like 22 i didn't give a fuck you know what i mean i would drink like i would drink a 30 rack and then have a pizza and then go do like go lift weights in the gym that's great at 6 a.m after after doing all of that like i would have i'd be running on two hours of sleep and And I did that for many, many years. And now I feel like if I work out the day prior, like if I have a very strong workout, I usually still work out, wake up at 7 a.m. every morning. I can't.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I slept through my alarm this morning. My body was like, nope, we're going back to sleep. You're going to wake up at 8. 1244 is exactly when I fell asleep. Really? Oh, it tells you. tells you that's the good stuff that's the good stuff so then you slept like 8 hours
Starting point is 00:16:12 do you sleep full all the way through or do you wake up at night I am like I'm like an anime character when I sleep you know how there's some characters that just fucking go and you can't do anything you know how, like, there's some characters that just fucking go, yeah, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Me, me, me, me, me, me.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Like, and you can't do anything. You can't wake them up. That's me. That's probably because you exercise, though. Maybe, yeah. Because I found, like, I have way deeper sleeps when I'm, like,
Starting point is 00:16:35 properly exercising on, like, a regimented regime. Yeah. I can't wake up. He has a degree in kinesiology. What's kinesiology? It's pretty much, like, intro-level intro level medicine where you become like a health practitioner. Yeah, movement.
Starting point is 00:16:51 A lot of biodynamics. Biodynamics. You have PTs and like chiro. Nice. I was working at a chiropractic clinic like before I went on my first tour. I was like. Oh my God. Behind the paywall.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Can you crack something in his body? I don't want to do that. Would you crack something in his body i don't want to do that would you crack something in my body also i kairos are bullshit exactly i think so my belief when i was working at chiropractic clinic is my belief is you know how you associate pops with like oh wow that feels good yeah imagine just walking into a room getting your all of your shit popped where you can't do it yourself, and you're just like, well, shit, I'm just high on life right now. So then you want to go back. So it's literally just an addiction. But there are a few...
Starting point is 00:17:35 But those poppings are not necessarily relief either. Yeah, didn't chiropractic... It's not. Didn't it start with the... It's not even good, actually. ...maintain and massage of beef. Beef? Like cows.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Like cattle. I think that's where chiropractic started. I think it is a traditional Chinese practice. I don't know specifically actually. It's fake though. There are like a few like anatomical movements that like will help. Like if you have like a slip rib. Things that you're. Things that you'reical movements that will help. If you have a slipped rib and you pop it back in, it will help.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Things that your physical therapist will tell you to do, stretches or exercises that you need to engage in if you have pain. I'm a major advocate for not pain avoidance, but pain relief. I feel like in America especially, given the way that big pharma works, given the way that like our lobbying structure works, like Americans love pain avoidance and they don't work on pain relief partially because pain relief is expensive and it takes time out of your day. If you're working, you can't go to the PT all the time. And a lot of the PT stuff is not covered by insurance.
Starting point is 00:18:48 So it's a really fucked up system. But I, so I place a lot of emphasis on physical therapy and personal training in general. Because, you know, that's the only way to fucking fix shit. Chiropractors can engage in some of that. But a lot of that is just like you know bullshit well i mean like my one when i was working at these places like everyone it's interesting because like all the information is on online like legit like if you if you could like self-diagnose pretty relatively well for the majority of the time and then you can look at a youtube video of like five stretches and five like movements that will help you regain mobility or strength in that general area in your body.
Starting point is 00:19:28 You can do it. But the thing is, no one fucking does it. Yeah. They expect they expect their practitioner to like do it for them and fix them. And it never fucking does anything because you I saw so many do it at home. Yeah, you have to do it. Yeah. I mean, I used to be an athlete.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So like I had my sports. I was a swimmer. So my shoulders are fucked. And i would always do my exercises and the only thing my my physical therapist who was like the the main coach at uh like university of british columbia was like the main pt there he would always be like don't come in if you haven't done it i don't want to see you because i'm gonna know if you haven't done it you just won't be able you won't be strong enough. And you know, there was like a few,
Starting point is 00:20:06 a few movements that like, that's all you had to do. And it was just like fix everything. So it's cool. Cause I know a little bit about it and I know like the, the, you know, the need,
Starting point is 00:20:17 you gotta, you gotta do your stretches. And sometimes when my homies are like down, have you ever done cupping? What have you ever done cupping? I don't really believe in it that much. Have you done IMS? What? Have you done intramuscular stimulation?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Oh, like the zapping? No, no, needling. Like dry needling. Oh, I haven't done the dry needling. I've done cupping. I've done like chiropractic shit, obviously, which most of it was against my will for the most part. Like where you're like i don't
Starting point is 00:20:46 want to offend these people like i'm on camera sure i'll do it you know what i mean and the guy's like i'm a chiropractor i'm like fuck i thought you were like i thought you were a fucking physical therapist and shit um but uh i've done cupping i have done when i was doing uh pt for my knee i did a lot of electro, the, the 10, is it called the Thames machine? The Thames machine.
Starting point is 00:21:09 That shit works. That is actually really fucking to work. Yeah. It just increases like the blood flow in the region. Like, which is key. So that I've done, I've obviously done all the fucking,
Starting point is 00:21:19 you know, PT work and stuff. Trust me. I, I am a firm believer that IMS is like the most effective way to like fix your issues. They just like needle shit? So, think of it this way.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Isn't it acupuncture? You said you like picking scabs, right? Yeah. You're gonna love this shit, dude. Think about picking a scab that has been building up for 15 years
Starting point is 00:21:38 deep inside your body that you cannot touch. Dude, you are selling me on this. It is, dude. It is the best. I've never done anything that is more effective for so is it acupuncture so they take the needle the acupuncture needle and they thread it through the muscle and the scar tissue oh it hurts like a like a bitch but
Starting point is 00:21:56 it's like dude it's so good like i cry i remember the first time i cried like horrendously to be fair i i almost cried when i got a full-body sports massage for the first time in my life. Oh, you're going to love Duda. That sounds unspeakably. That sounds like something out of Hellraiser. It's amazing. We have such sights to show you.
Starting point is 00:22:16 We're going to rehab your muscles. And then what they do is when they thread it, they thread it, they thread it. So they break the scar tissue. So obviously what happens is your brain is like, oh, I'm going to send a ton of blood and a ton of nutrients to this place because i got to and then they grab like a an electrode and they put it on the needle and they just reset the nerve so what is that re reset i'm not a fucking game boy cartridge so so neurons in the general vicinity of like where you might have pain might be blocked because of the scar tissue. So and if it's sending more signals to that area, they're going to be like, oh, shit, we got to really repair this area.
Starting point is 00:22:53 What the fuck? Is this new? What the fuck? No, man. It's like a I think it's an ancient German practice. No, it's not new. No one wants to get a fucking lightning rod stuck in their muscle. Everyone wants it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Everyone wants it. There's certain types of pain. Everyone wants it? Dog, you have been blessed to not have genuinely fucking life-altering injuries. I can totally see that. Bro, I have no ACL or MCL on my right side. Okay, but... Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:23:21 That's crazy. Wait, how do you fucking do cuts? How do you walk? How do you do... I'm just different. There's no shot. We play basketball. Did you have full reconstruction or was it like...
Starting point is 00:23:33 Nothing. You know, you're like... When you don't have those two or when you tear them, you're actually open. You can go get reconstruction surgery on that. I'm good. That's insane. mean i'm i'm insane as well like i when i when i destroyed my kneecap when i um um what do you what the fuck what do you say what's the worst side is no my patellar uh like dislocated okay uh when i did
Starting point is 00:24:00 that um the uh fuck i'm literally forgetting words right now. I don't know what's happening. It's way too early. Anyway, I basically had a ping pong sized piece, like the cartilage ripped off a piece of the bone. So I had a ping pong sized bone inside of my knee for like many, many years, like three, four years. And I worked out with it. I hit all my PRs with it i was in my best shape of my life with it and then one day when i was playing basketball that shit got stuck
Starting point is 00:24:30 under my knee and it locked my knee like it come i couldn't move my knee i was like what the fuck is going on and then i like i would have to wiggle it i literally do you remember wiggler i don't know if you remember this like i would literally take the bone from inside of my knee and move it around and like shift it back into position so it didn't get in the way so i did that for many many years i'm a freak but having said that i totally understand how someone would uh do that level of of um therapy to be able to like you know finally get rid of something that's been haunting them for the rest of their lives at this point like whenever i get off a long tour like i i go get this treatment what hurts where where do you have pain dude my my whole body's just
Starting point is 00:25:15 mangled like i have like constant neck pain constant like trap pain that's interesting like ql my ql is just ruined on my right side all the fucking time. I have really bad knees. But then you know what it is. What? If your QL is ruined on your right side every single time, that means it's either your hip flexors or it's your legs. Yeah. Well, so I'm always stretching my quads.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And, you know, it's a puller system, like a lover system, right? The whole body. Yeah. But, dude dude trust me if you've i'm surprised you've never had this shit every single person that i've ever played like rugby with or like like high-end like some canadian played rugby yeah so i play rugby and i broke my back that was like i used to be a competitive swimmer my dad was like don't play rugby and i wanted to be the boy with the boys and I was lifting a ton of weights, and then I played rugby,
Starting point is 00:26:06 and I broke my back. I got hurt playing rugby more than anything else in my life. Rugby is brutal. Amazing sport. What do you do that's strenuous during tour, though? Like, muscle-wise. Oh, dude, I'm, like, jumping, like, a ton. You're jumping a ton.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It's wear and tear for sure. I try to be like you know the more energized you are on stage the more energized the crowd will be they're like it's a direct reciprocation of how much energy you have um so i try to go as crazy as i can and you know i got like flat feet so i have arch supports and i wear, like, runners or else my knees blow out because I used to be, like, a fixed gear cyclist. And, yeah, I used to be, like, the hippiest of stirs, you know? Dude, you are such a fucking hipster.
Starting point is 00:26:53 When you said drum and bass, I immediately, I pictured you, like, with dreads. Okay, okay, okay, okay. It's not that far. I can see you with dreads. This is more like the ketamine and, likeamine and like bro drum and bass rather than the. Yeah. Yeah. No cultural appropriation.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Are you big on ketamine? I did it recently. Okay. Did you like it? It was interesting because usually. Holy shit. Okay. Well, that segues.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I got to check my phone because I got like 90 vibrations. Something must be happening here. It's so weird because it's only Will that this happens to. I mean, it's so crazy. It do be like that. And the wild part is like he'll be sitting there and that one explodes. He'll be sitting here and this one explodes. It's so strange.
Starting point is 00:27:46 It must be. I don't know what it's for, though. Well, good job, man. Hey, I gave us a break. But yeah, can I mean, it's interesting, man. I it's not something I would do all the time. But the one thing I actually liked about it is there was no negative side effect. Usually, you do a drug and you're born, but I didn't even sleep that night, and I got on a plane the next morning, and I was in a giddy mood.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I was feeling good. I know that there's tons and tons and tons of research going into ketamine therapy right now. I actually have a friend that did it and said that her life completely changed. Ketamine and psilocybin are the big ones right now that everybody's... I'm glad that people are moving more towards
Starting point is 00:28:35 utilizing drugs and... Just hold it. Just hold it. It's hard. Man, the mosquitoes here this year in L.A. have been insane. Have you guys noticed this? Mosquitoes? What else do you call them?
Starting point is 00:28:53 No, I'm just saying I haven't had much, if any, experience. I have been bitten alive since I've been here. Really? Yeah, like brutally. You're from Vancouver. I feel like you have big-time mosquitoes up there. No, no, they're not that bad in Vancouver. Because we're right on the coast, so it gets kind of blown away.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But, yeah. I just won't touch it. You're definitely going to. You're not going to touch it. You're going to yank it like you always do. I'm coming out real hard and real strong. Yeah, it's kind of dope. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:28 All right. Be good. This looks dangerous. I'm going to hit you anyway. What is cousin danger? Okay. That should be fine for now. Yeah, just don't, like, move this base.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Fuck, what were we talking about? Oh, ketamine therapy ketamine therapy yeah um that's what i heard from i mean well i had an ex who was doing ketamine therapy don't know if it worked but um but other than that i remember like i was uh hooking up with this like esthetician like beautician or whatever and she said like all the doctors love doing kit because like i guess it's hard to overdose on it or something i feel like we're talking about some really dangerous concepts right now without doing enough enough research you tell us marsh no i'm gonna be honest i feel like you don't have to be an expert to talk about something.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You know what I mean? As long as you're not like, do ketamine. Yeah, I'm definitely not saying do ketamine. I just said my experience was not negative, and I don't feel like. All we can say is, eyeball test, ketamine stock on the rise. Definitely on the rise. Ketamine? It's been on the rise for a minute.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I've never been a downer guy. I always an upper guy i totally i totally agree i like i way prefer uppers but i suffer alcohol which operates like an upper for me is it okay wait can we can we de-myth this is tequila an actual upper yeah we can look on the internet but i think because it's agave yeah because it's cactus yeah it's a. Yeah. It's a stimulant. Yeah. It's a narcotic. It stems you up. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Myth seven. It would be surprising if it was actually like unique. Well, it definitely makes you feel unique. Yeah. Dude. Like what I used to do back when I was in like the rugby era before I brought my back, I would do like rugby era before I broke my back,
Starting point is 00:31:25 I would do pre-workout chase with tequila, and that shit ends. All my clothing is off. It's called being 20 years old. Pre-workout and booze was a magical combination. I used to buy something called Carlo Rossi, which was like a jug of very cheap Italian wine. Oh, okay. I would drink like half of it, and then my friends would put raspberry champagne, Everclear, and fucking pre-workout in it, and we would yank that around, and yes, there you go.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That's a Carlo Rossi jug of champagne. We are so nasty with the shit that we do to our bodies. Dude, we would get absolutely livid. You ever try Jack 3D? Greatest pre-workout of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Greatest pre-workout of all time. They discontinued it.
Starting point is 00:32:17 May or may not have had steroids in it. That's fine. No wonder I got so fucking. Dude, I was so brolic on Jack 3D. I was like. My face would get like. My face would get like. My face would have like pins and pricks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:29 When I took it. That's beta alanine. Yeah. I used to take beta alanine when I would like cycle and do a lot of cardio. Because of like. You're like a triathlete. Dude, I was like really, really into just exercising. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:40 What happened? I fell off, bro. That's what happened. I'm just messing with you if i the thing that's sick is like you know hypothetically in a world if if creator clash is like yo fight gravy dude and if you're ready you think you think you could rock gravy shit he's so much taller it doesn't matter bro when the thing is is i'm an athlete matt not, not an athlete. Cut this promo right now. Cut this promo right now.
Starting point is 00:33:07 We can make it happen. He fights people. He takes pride. He's always like, I'm going to fight this guy. Wait, really? Yeah, he's beating people up. You want to fight Addison Ray's dad, though? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:19 He would probably get his ass beat by Addison Ray's dad. That guy was doing tons. It seems like he coked out. When did Gravy fight Addison? What the fuck? You missed the whole month or two. You were unaware of the TikTok shit that's popping off. Hell yeah, I was unaware of that TikTok shit.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I'll give you the short and sweet of it. I'll give you the skinny. Young Gravy, okay? Young Gravy, known as a designated milf hunter, all of a sudden doesn't look as Amish as he once did because he starts growing a mustache. Ladies love that shit. He's the big MILF hunter on TikTok. Boom.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Young Gravy has this, like, girl in Hoboken or something that he's hooking up with. Addison Rae's father is, like, a TikToker now. So is Addison Rae's mother. Addison Rae's father hangs out with the girl that Young Gra gravy was supposed to be hanging out with. There's a little bit of drama.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I think you can fix that part. If I'm saying something wrong about it, then young gravy hooks up with Addison Rae's mom, takes Addison's raise mom to the fucking red carpet for one of these award shows that take talkers go to tight. Okay. Addison raised. Dad is like,
Starting point is 00:34:21 Hey, what are you doing? I'm from fucking New Jersey. How you doing over here? What the fuck you up? Motherfucker. He's the most like, hey, what are you doing? I'm from fucking New Jersey. How you doing over here? I'm going to fuck you up, motherfucker. He's the most like, I think he's Hispanic, but like he's the most Italian Mexican person you've ever met in your entire life. Anyway, so he's like, you know, being Uncle Pauly Guido over here
Starting point is 00:34:42 trying to fuck Young Gravy up. Young Gravy says, no, dog. I'm fucking your wife instead. Boom. That's it. That's the end of the story. That's pretty good. I mean, it was interesting because I was just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:54 Matt always has a lot of things that just, like, happen to him. And I was like, dude, you can't make this shit up. Like, you just can't. Did I do a good did it i don't know how like necessarily like they reached to the the epicenter of let's get together type thing i don't know where that came from really but young gravy's not younger sorry addison ray's mom was like straight up throwing daggers at young gravy she was like she did the martha stewart like where she had like nothing underneath her
Starting point is 00:35:25 fucking i mean she's hot like addison ray's mom sexy yeah okay yeah absolutely i find it i just find it interesting that like dude i was just watching all this unfold and i was like bro you can't make this shit up and then like the yeah the monty video i was like bro this is how how is someone of like past 50 years of age behaving this way? I was like, surely. It breaks people's brains. Dude, I was like, this is bad.
Starting point is 00:35:54 This is bad for society. This should not be happening. He got to his head in a really bad way where he started behaving this way. 12 year old. It's not good. not good at all okay um we uh on the on the paywall portion of this broadcast we're gonna we're gonna you know give something we're gonna put something in your mouth that you're gonna like
Starting point is 00:36:18 don't worry i i you gotta trust me on this sure you i've. I've put things in your mouth that you've enjoyed so far. There's been a lot. Hey. He's a big foodie guy. I want to introduce you to one of my favorite. I got a question. What? Do you think that right now there's going to be a rush on Yeezys,
Starting point is 00:36:38 and in 10 years, Yeezys are going to be like unopened Pokemon booster packs? Like, if you can get a pair of those mint Yeezys are going to be like unopened Pokemon booster packs. Like if you can get a pair of those mint Yeezys, it's almost like Nazi gold. You know what I mean? When was there a rush on Nazi? I hope not. Nazi commemorables? People go crazy for that shit on the internet.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You know this. You know people are collecting all that shit. Not me. I feel like people, I feel like didn't, didn't Kanye get kind of like dropped by easy a little bit. Dude, it's done.
Starting point is 00:37:13 $250 million blipped out. Adidas just dropped them as well. I mean, and then in that case, then I don't know. Maybe it'll be like, this is the era of when he completely lost his mind. So it's like, let's buy the lost mind shoe.
Starting point is 00:37:28 These might be the last shoes. We already have something to point to with respect to this. It's the Red Octobers. Nike Red Octobers are the only time that Kanye has ever collaborated with Nike. And those shoes are like fucking $13,000. That's literally more expensive than the Massey Gold. Yeah, that is like, yeah. So they're 13 grand?
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's more than that. Are you guys shoeies? A little bit. In college I was. They're not really that dope. Would you wear those, Azan? No. No, but in 2008?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah. Those were great. Those were the movie. The glasses with the slats. No, but in 2008? Yeah. That shit is hard. The glasses with the slats? Yeah, with the hater shades, the stunner shades. Yeah. It says 230,000. Yeah. So do you guys think he's going to be able to make shoes somewhere else?
Starting point is 00:38:23 I'm a firm believer that no matter how anti-Semitic you get, if you're fucking pumping out that good shit, people are going to always work with you. But is he pumping out that? You can kill people and still get away with it if you can run the 40 or whatever. I do think the fundamental of Kanye is kind of no longer as prominent because his music.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But Dondo was not that good thank you that is exactly my point dondo you never get canceled you just your output is i think like the last three albums were kind of oof the one from fucking uh but the thing is is like we are also like if you look at donda and you're like if baby no money made donda and dropped that shit he would be ginormous you know what i mean like so you're looking with like the precursor the thought of like oh this guy might be like one of the best yes because right now you're like right now you're like on you are unrecognized ricky rubio in the spanish, okay? And of course, we're not expecting LeBron output from you. But like,
Starting point is 00:39:28 yeah, we're weighing Kanye on the LeBron level of music. And if LeBron is not getting triple doubles, and all of a sudden he has a game where they're getting fucking owned, and he's dropping, you know, 10 points max, you're like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:44 You listen to Dark Twisted Fantasy, and you're like, damn. Yeah, I just re-listened to that shit like a month ago, and I was like, damn, man. My music sucks balls. But Donda is still great. It's a great album. If he just cut some of the mid-tracks,
Starting point is 00:39:59 it would have been a classic in my opinion. So does Kanye ever come back from this? Can Kanye rectify his situation or is he forever a maniac? 100%. I do. Well, it's interesting because he is like a type of guy that like dude, he's culture. Like it's
Starting point is 00:40:16 it's fucked. Like anything he does immediately becomes like what is popular. And now we're moving on to like a very dark era of culture that was kind of culture in 1938 yeah anti-semitism yeah and it's like i don't know i mean like did you see the people on the overpass oh i saw that the sign that just said kanye is right about the jews yeah like aside from you know anti-semitism aside obviously and like what that means
Starting point is 00:40:44 these are some of the biggest like dweeb lords that he's like hyping up you know, anti-Semitism aside, obviously, and what that means, these are some of the biggest, like, dweeb lords that he's, like, hyping up. You know what I mean? He's like, yeah, these guys are so sick. And it's like a dude with a fucking Kekistan flag who's like, I'm a groper. It's like, bro, you're a 35-year-old who's still living with their parents, and you don't have a job. Shut the fuck up. You are not the superior race. You are not the master race.
Starting point is 00:41:04 You're hanging on by a thread. I'm going to take a counterpoint. I think Kanye is done. And not just on Twitch. No, I actually think Kanye is done. Oh, wait. I think he's making music. I think his stans will forever, whatever he does, they'll still be like,
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah, he made graduation away everything. Right. stands will forever whatever he does they'll still be like yeah though though he graduation he made graduation away everything right and i i think i think even some of his hard line stands though have had to like re-evaluate their relationship with him as a creator and i don't know man i think listening to the one portion of his incoherent rantings that really made me realize the dude is just like a paranoid schizophrenic is when he was talking about like a femur to a dinosaur. Or he was like, he was talking about like the George Floyd situation and basically was like trying to insinuate that George Floyd was like a plant or something. He said that multiple times, which is like deeply just at its core the most anti-black you can get i just don't know how anyone can still justify what do you think his reasoning is behind this is it just because he's just like i know i've known i i talked
Starting point is 00:42:18 about this a little bit i've known about this since 2018, where he was having significant episodes and attacks. I had a friend who was on a trip with him in Uganda, where that's the first time I ever heard about him talking about black Israelite stuff and being openly and deeply antisemitic. I think he fired his entire security detail there, too. He had a massive attack there um i think that it's a combination of his insane narcissism this massive ego and his you know manic episodes where he has no one to check him like he has no one to check him he has a god complex he has no
Starting point is 00:43:00 one to check him he's pushed everyone aside that has like ever been in his life for a very long time that that could be like yo yeah you gotta chill you're fucking going crazy right to like He has no one to check him. He's pushed everyone aside that has ever been in his life for a very long time that could be like, yo, yeah, you got to chill. You're fucking going crazy, right? To level, to reason with him, to anchor him, to bring him down to reality. So in those manic episodes, I think he has found black Israelite theories and has genuinely believed it. And Candace Owens also is another person he linked up with
Starting point is 00:43:26 that gave him the anti-black proportion of everything that's going on. Because Candace Owens has a really unique take. But Kanye West is basically advocating for a weird anti-black, black supremacist attitude, which is strange know what i mean he's got pieces of candace owens and then he's got pieces of like supreme court justice clarence thomas in there no seriously like clarence thomas i think is probably the closest to kanye west yeah with respect to current kanye west ideology not that clarence thomas is a is a black hebrew israelite um he's not but he is like a very anti-black black separationist kind of baby no money i have a hypothetical question for you
Starting point is 00:44:12 you are locked in a padded room and you have to smoke crack with either kanye west or ezra miller and survive the next 24 hours who do you you choose? I mean, definitely Kanye West. Yeah. Ezra's coming at you before the crack, right? Ezra's probably going to bite you. He's the Flash, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:32 They. Dude. They the Flash. Yeah, my apologies. So, yeah, my fucking, there was like a weird GoFundMe for me to replace Ezra Miller as the Flash. I am okay with you as a girl.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Bro, you better not even mention that. They're coming for you, motherfucker. They're going to be like, oh, yeah, you want to be the Flash? Before you know it, you wake up one night. They're literally with the talons. They're standing. They're perched up on your fucking bed like. Yeah, Ezra Miller is just slowly becoming the Babadook.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah. Yeah, definitely Kanye. fucking bed like yeah ezra miller is just slowly becoming the babadook yeah yeah definitely kanye also like if we're on crack like he's all like he's already saying crazy shit like we can just say crazy shit together just power up i like you as the flash i like you as barry allen i'd be down how did that sounds like a bag i sounds like a bag a big uh bag you gotta you gotta fix that before you become the flash ain't nobody letting you fucking be the flash if you're gonna say that what's up with the big where's the bag um i would i don't know i how how did that come to yeah how did you get associated with being barry allen i have no idea just i saw some like tweet and like there were people actually voting and trying to go fund this project hypothetical
Starting point is 00:45:52 and i was like it was me you know you know reality it sounds like it sounds like a lot of money so i would love to do it yeah respect respect you get what hero would you play if you could play a hero? If I could play a hero, what hero would I play? I mean, dude, I am the exact opposite of this person, but I grew up with a major affinity for Wolverine. Charles Xavier. No. Charles Xavier. Yeah, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:46:17 You can't be saying that. You've been taking propitious as eighth grade, motherfucker. You said the exact opposite. I was trying to think of who the exact opposite was. No, Wolverine. Because, like, I'm just as hairy, but, like, he's supposed to be, like, a little guy, right? Yeah, he's supposed to kind of be. Well, he's a Canadian.
Starting point is 00:46:33 He is. Is he? Yeah. Hugh Jackman? No. No, no, no. Hugh Jackman is Australian. Wolverine, the character, is.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Oh, it's just like. It's a Canadian. There's, like, a Canadiangers called x-force i think that he basically fronts oh yeah i did not know that it's him a guy named puck i've read i've read uh yeah and his enemy saber tooth i think also might be canadian gotta be gotta be a northerner yeah but wolverine is like i read the og wolverine comics where he goes to, like, Japan. He, like, travels the world. And he's, like.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Lady Deathstrike. Yeah. He's just, like, fucking dudes up. He's, like, killing Yakuza members and shit. Like, as a kid, I was, like, dude, that'd be so sick if I had, like, supernatural healing. Yeah. Are you a nerd at all? Do you?
Starting point is 00:47:20 Oh, dude, yeah. I mean, I'm less, like, Marvel DC world. I'm more just, like, I played a shit ton of Blizzard games. I grew up. So my first video game ever. Are you a Diablo guy? I played Diablo 1 when I was like four. And then I played Diablo 2 and I was goaded at Diablo 2.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Like I played hours. Are you ready for four? Dude, I am definitely. So I usually tell my agent, I'm like, yo, like I need time off. Like I can hours. Are you ready for four? Dude, I am definitely. So I usually tell my agent, I'm like, yo, I need time off. I can't. I need to be at home. It's in my blood. Have you seen my website?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yo, pull my website up real quick. Yeah, his website. Billy, can you pull that website up, please? Just type in BBNO. While he's pulling up the website, I'll give you his nerd creds. First of all, he's a soda poppin' viewer. He was a Twitch viewer was a very long time oh you got the diablo fun yeah yeah okay we're raiding together you and I dude when it comes out let's hit it hard did you play diablo 2 remake yeah obviously I played it
Starting point is 00:48:18 because I had so my girlfriend at the time we were we were this was my last day before tour I was that's going to her and I was about to go on tour. And I was like, look, I'm not talking to you this day. I have to play Diablo. That's why she's your ex now. Sorry. She was like, this is the final draw. But, yeah, it was like, it was super fun. I, on tour, I leveled up every single class to like 80 single player by myself.
Starting point is 00:48:43 So, Diablo 1 was like the game that got me into gaming yeah and i will never forget like i'd never played a game like that right duping it picking up one item while juggling yeah yeah yeah yeah um but just walking into that room and having the butcher come out and be like fresh meat dude. I was like, yeah! It was so terrifying back then. I was legitimately like four years old when I was playing that shit. Yeah, it's, you know, gaming I don't think is as
Starting point is 00:49:13 good as it used to be. In my opinion, Diablo 2 is actually dude, it won best year or best game of the year two years in a row. That's how good that game was back then. It was so ahead of its time destruction no one for the original it won like in 2 29 uh 1999 it won diablo and then lord of destruction came out like 2001 he's such a nerd that the people that he reached out when he came out with La La La, which you've heard.
Starting point is 00:49:48 One of the people he reached out was S-Fan. Wow. He DM'd S-Fan on Instagram. I'm a wild frog. I've put years of time. Another person that he reached out, which we found out, was Pokimane. Wow. And when I heard this, I was like, well, Iman is a good friend of mine.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I'm going to put you on blast. So he showed us the DM. We can, I can, I mean, show it to you here. I thought the Riz was a little bit Rizier. Yeah. Where I guess I did, I guess I did delete it. So I sent out a message to a bunch of like Twitch streamers and content creators. I mean like.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Did you give her the nectar? Did you try and like slide? No, no, no, no. Lightly. A little bit. Oh, he slipped. He slipped. But sometimes you slide and you go a little too far. She DM'd me yesterday.
Starting point is 00:50:32 She DM'd me yesterday. I sent a selfie with the... The World of Warcraft nectar? You know. Yeah, a little bit. No, he did that. He went... Hey, gamer.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, check out this loot. But I mean... Trying to do some raids? this loot. But I mean. Trying to do some raids. Look, I mean, I'll make do with what I got, I guess. Maximum Nectar. Yeah, the Maximum Nectar. She's our good friend. That's why we're not like ripping on you.
Starting point is 00:50:57 No, that's awesome. That's awesome. But he said, HeyGamer. And then he sent the same thing that he had sent to everyone, which was like, hey, you know, I have a song coming out called La La La. I think it's going to pop off. You can play it without no copyright. You know what I mean? That sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:51:12 He took the unsent that. But I told I sent it to her. I was like, this is what he said. You fucking left him on read. But now you guys are friends. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah. It's just weird that you go. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. It's just weird that you didn't send it to either of us. Yeah. And I know your co-producer. He didn't even send it. It's messed up. Well, look, guys. Next time.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. You could try and riz me up next time. Yeah, I will. Yeah, give us the give us the the yeah i mean next time i think i got a hit i'll send it to you guys and see what happens now so fuck yeah yeah i mean good thing you didn't hit us up because that shit popped off if you hit us up maybe it wouldn't have okay dude i yeah i remember i was just like i have to do literally everything i would spend like i have to do literally everything i would spend like 12 hours a day like coming up with ideas of how to get this song more popping
Starting point is 00:52:09 did you feel like you had a hit on your hands when la la la came out so the moment we made the hook like when i popped off into the i shall obviously go Like I remember Ari, we were sitting there and be like, this is really good. Like, like this is really good. So you felt it. There was like a different feeling that you had. Yeah. I've never,
Starting point is 00:52:33 that you didn't feel when I would have you filmed that song live before it was released. Every single person by the second hook knew the hook every single person. I was like, that doesn't happen. Uh, so when we made this song, we were like, yeah yeah this song is really fucking good you're in the pocket that's what like that's a it's a real i really hit that pocket you pured it yeah yeah no there
Starting point is 00:52:53 there is something that like um it's like an unspoken it's like unspoken riz yeah when you hit a song you know it's like it's impossible to like exactly identify it in a you know mathematic calculation but when you're there you know it and i think this works for every art like every every facet of the arts like you can even have it in streaming when you're like really fucking you have good back and forth banter with your chat or you have like you're making content and you're feeling like god damn this is really good obviously it's a much smaller scale than what you're making content and you're feeling like, God damn, this is really good. Obviously, it's smaller scaled. It's void. It's like when you just black out
Starting point is 00:53:30 and you're performing in the perfect way possible. And I think it happens. Where did this sample come from? It's not a sample. I already played it. Oh. Yeah. Because I remember I was like,
Starting point is 00:53:41 yo, just riff on like a Spanish guitar. And then he was riffing on his keyboard. And then he found a melody. I was like, yo, just riff on like a Spanish guitar. And then he was riffing on his keyboard. And then he found a melody. I was like, yo, that's fire. And then I went. And then he was like, that's fire. And then. That's it.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I was like, yo, we should just say something super dumb. Like I shine my wrist to go like, sha, sha, sha. Which makes no fucking sense. And then I was like. Adlibs like that are. Well, it's kind of like. I think I always say this and i will explain this it's like you know kumbaya my lord everyone knows that song yeah what does it mean i don't know
Starting point is 00:54:10 exactly so what does that mean i think it means like like like hakuna matata it's like family i think i think i don't i don't know can you google that i really need to check my phone i have never gotten this many texts in my life this is ridiculous it's literally just my dad what does kumbaya he's like do not hang out with that turkish motherfucker he's a butcher like you went to that turk's house twice yeah harmony and unity god bless there it is that's so harmony so like if the whole world can say the same shit through different, you know, it can, like, transgress through different cultures because it's, I'm not saying anything. And it's just, like, it's like a sound. Then that's how hits are made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Have you felt that since? This is kind of a tough question to answer. Uh-oh. What do you mean? Have you felt, like, that you were in the pocket since like i mean edamame was definitely a pocket yeah i remember when i made that song i was like okay this sounds this song like i love it flows super well and you know you can listen to some of my music and like some of it some of it's good like some of it's good but there's imperfections on it and like la la perfect song perfect song yeah there's nothing wrong with that
Starting point is 00:55:22 song um edamame nothing wrong with that song. Edamame, nothing wrong with that song. And you can tell. How did you feel? Like, what was the first moment that you recognized, like, oh, shit, this is going fucking viral with which song? With La La La. So, what we did was, this is the first time i ever like i actually marketed before the song came out oh okay this was this was so like all my fan base was like oh he's like posting about
Starting point is 00:55:51 this shit so clearly it like tapped my fan base enough but at the time your fan base was marginal i assume i had like a hundred thousand followers on instagram okay this was right off like nursery was kind of going on tiktok to this weird like dance oh yeah okay you're right so this is like that for a second this is like uh the first little i dropped a project called recess yeah nursery i remember it it you you tied that perfectly actually it was like and then i i i dropped so gravy dropped his album that was like notable as his best album no no he's not independent bro yeah this is independent you're good his entire all all la la la are you gonna clap us for this that would be that'd be a rude yeah that'd be fire let's be a ruthless business decision
Starting point is 00:56:36 yeah so this song so right around like one minute and 37 seconds uh this song had like this weird little audio that it goes to like double time. This music video is great. I think it's like 1 minute 30 or some shit. So this was like the one song I didn't want to include on the album. Why? This is how it works.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Because I was like, it's just me spitting too much. So right here, it went. Yeah, I remember this. And this was like the first time that I like implemented like a house element. It goes. It goes. This song is incredibly hard to perform live.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I run out of breath like the whole song. It's crazy. I'm just wrapping my ass off. So when this was going on tiktok another song called who that boy was kind of going on tiktok and i was just like oh shit like i actually have a career i remember my like my like distribution would send me checks and stuff and they would like it it it took a massive leap after after i dropped this album and then you know it's still to this day like people people look at that album as my best album and it's pretty fucking annoying but uh but that's
Starting point is 00:57:52 just never be as good as your old shit exactly exactly but that's the goal is like try to be to for everyone with like a wider spread audience type of uh you know appeal yeah um so that happened and i dropped this other song called sriracha and i dropped this other song called bad boy as well and i dropped uh whip a tesla so all within like a six month period i dropped like some of my biggest music and they all they all did well they all did well i mean whip a tesla didn't hit on tiktok like same as sriracha but they just like quote good songs so So I dropped all this good music and then blah, blah, blah. I remember typically I drop a song. It would do like 25K first day. This song did 84,000. So I was like, okay, crazy. And then the next day I did like 120 and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And at that time, at that time, that's $450,
Starting point is 00:58:41 $400, $600 a day. And like, I'm looking at that shit i'm like oh i'm gonna be rich and then it just went from like 250 to like 350 and then i had tons of tiktokers dming me be like bro your song is going ape shit on tiktok like like ape shit and i'm like all right cool and uh no you were not like all right cool you were like yeah no i but like i didn't i didn't know i didn't know like really what it meant because at that time tiktok was super super fresh yeah and you know it ended up doing like it was doing like 1.6 a day you're you're what happened to you on tiktok happened to a lot of other happened to gravy this year as well having a gravy this year but what happened to you on tiktok pretty much is now a business model for the
Starting point is 00:59:25 record labels like they will go to tiktokers we've had uh bryce hall on here before uh and and he straight up told us on the on another episode of fear and where he was like yeah record labels come to us and they say like you know 20 grand to just dance to make a dance for this fucking tiktok or to just have our song have this song that's coming out and these are songs that like you know multiple platinum uh owning like artists are putting out there it's not like some random up and comer record labels are using tiktok's algorithm to juice their top performers i mean yeah it's just kind of like any format any medium right it's just like it's just
Starting point is 01:00:05 another way of marketing but there is something on tiktok that is a little bit different and that is that that algorithm is crack when it when it hits dude it's yeah it's it's fuego it's the bank real nice hour and 20 long interpretive dance for taylor swift's new album for my tiktok and i'm getting that dude you should you should listen you should sit in front of the camera and listen to Taylor Swift's album on repeat until you pass out. That shit will go viral. On live, that shit will go viral. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I will get DMCA'd. And do the gritty the whole time. Or do the bloody. Doing the gritty until Taylor Swift notices me. Yeah, yeah. Taylor Swift immediately notices three minutes in. Stop. Stop right now.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Do the DMCA'd. Yeah. That is actually in. Stop. Stop right now. Go to the MCA. Yeah. That is actually cool. Okay. Well, let's move on to the paywall portion of this broadcast right now. Where we eat burritos. Where we eat burritos and we have sexy conversations. We get a little naked.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Can you do the gritty? I can do the gritty. I can't do the letty. Can you teach Hassan to do the gritty? We'll do that In the paywall portion What do you want to tell The cameras The people that are watching
Starting point is 01:01:08 The free episode Where can people find you What do you want What's coming up Right now for you I just dropped an album Going on tour With Young Gravy
Starting point is 01:01:17 In North America I would say buy tickets But most of it sold out Which is dope Damn Shit Okay You're losing the
Starting point is 01:01:25 audience it's funny we we announced tara reed and freddie dread on a bunch of shows and they're super sick but we announced them late and like none of their fans can buy tickets because the shit's just sold out and i was like we kind of did them dirty but like they'll still have a good time i fucking love freddie dread dude yeah he's fire i fucking he's hilarious he's hilarious for this yeah freddie's sick come to the show you guys are all invited well it's sold out well no not when it's not not when you're famous now when you get a million dollars i did not get that from Pat Oh man
Starting point is 01:02:06 Alright well we're going to talk more about that On the paywalled side If you want to check that out Please go to patreon.com And yeah that's it Peace out If someone wrote a song like Layla about me and I'm in my Prius and you go, hey, put it on. The song's about me. You don't think that makes the seat a little bit slipping, Sly?
Starting point is 01:02:32 That Prius is officially now like a ventador. It's the fuck zone. Who got that? Show me your Bugatti. What's that shit? Bugatti. Bugatti. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Nice. I drive a Bugatti. Top G. That shit is so dumb. I bought a Prius, but now it's a Bugatti. What happened to him now? I haven't seen anything. He converted. Yeah. Nice. I drive a Bugatti. Top G. That shit is so dumb. What happened to him now? I haven't seen anything. He converted to Islam, actually. He found the light of Allah, and he said the Shahada, and now...
Starting point is 01:02:53 That's not a good look for Islam. Wrong. Islam took an L right there. Islam is going to cleanse him of his mischievous, devious ways.

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