Fear& - Bradley Martyn, Hasan Piker & Will Neff Get Raw 😡🥩 | Fear& x Raw Talk
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what
football bro we have like
a 40% female
audience not that like women don't like
football no no you can't take that back don't watch that sexist that's on the record first of
all yes i am the number one sexist yeah haven't you seen 80 for brady wait it's those old bitches
i mean it is but it is it is fair to say that the audience,
the people who watch football,
is mostly men.
Yes, that is a fair assessment, Bradley.
I don't agree with that.
You can just look at the devil.
Don't listen to anything he says.
Because that was fucking mine.
Oh, yeah.
What are your socks?
What's on your socks?
These are from the US Open.
Oh, I thought...
Tennis.
I can't see. Golf? They're withered. So this is when Payne won the US.S. Open tennis. I can't see.
They're withered.
So this is when Payne won the U.S. Open in Pinehurst.
I'm from Pinehurst.
They're so withered.
I thought it was a Jet Sox.
Okay.
They've been through it, bro.
Oh, my God.
Bro, they're so discolored.
I thought, like, you know, you got those.
Last time the Jets had a fucking Super Bowl prospect or something.
I like these socks.
They're not bad.
The socks aren't that bad.
It's okay.
He's into my shit.
Do you like football?
I used to watch a lot more football, for sure.
Not as much anymore.
Tell them who we're here with today, first of all.
We're here with Bradley motherfucking Martin.
Yes.
The gorilla man himself.
Let's fucking go.
Sitting at 266 pounds.
60, 60. 260 pounds at six foot four this man can dunk
he is an absolute demon an absolute demon i like this intro achilles reborn yeah literally just a
just a giant uh ape of a man well i'm gonna tell you we have a lot of different guests on the show
there's varying excitement for everyone.
Yeah.
And sometimes you get the perfect guest where you both are locked in and excited.
You're that guy.
I appreciate that.
Will is saying that, like, we're both excited to have you.
Yes.
Sometimes both, sometimes either he or myself are not as excited for the guest we have.
That's true.
It's good.
It's more locked in.
Like when they're political
commentators that was your favorite episode there was an episode that they got so in the weeds with
politics like weird like cia psyop in iran in 1986 and like i'm definitely not that guy
yeah nor am i and i just sat there for like two hours i was like
i was crazy too to be fair
they just they talked a lot their podcast there's chopper trap house you know they're good boys um
and and they you know they're podcasters so they didn't shut the fuck up for like an hour and 30
minutes straight i think i got like probably 10 minutes of talking time we'll got zero yeah
like literally zero what were you thinking the whole time?
You were just like, man.
I just was...
You were like,
I'm trying to...
Darkness, my old friend.
I was looking at the clock
and the bomb.
Damn.
Yeah.
Why are you guys both locked in on this one?
Why do you think?
Because you're both into the gym.
You guys came here,
first thing you said
was you're looking small.
Yeah.
Well, I think for us,
and I'd love to talk to you about this but we're both
former fat kids yeah i knew that about him current fat kid no you're not fat current fat kid but
thank you now we we both used to be uh portly customers and we still have those tendencies
in our lives right we're both very like ready to overeat and we're both get excited by food and i
think there's this constant pursuit of trying to find fitness and
physique and,
and strengthen our lives.
And it's fun to kind of riff off one another because we always motivate one
another,
right to the outside person.
It might look very cruel when I come in and like,
what's up fatty,
like that kind of stuff.
But I know that's love because you do the same for me.
We used to,
we used to do body
ops back in the day where i mean he always had an advantage because he's a skinny bitch but you know
like but but like our goal never was to like become beefier or anything it was always to become
more lean better look that's the hard yeah that's the that's the hardest part for me always like i
can put on weight like like that it's so easy i'll put on
put on 10 pounds right now just thinking about it man don't test me don't boom i'm 265 yeah it is
it is interesting how everyone is so different when it comes to how how well they either put
on size or put on body fat or it's just it's the it's hard to get it like i don't know exactly
right for everyone i think that's where people just continue to have problems with it i I'm assuming you guys are going to ask me about this kind of stuff, right?
Like you will talk about it.
No, this is the only question.
That's it?
No, no, that's it.
We'll talk about it.
Because he always, he has an unorthodox way of working out.
I think.
That I think actually for years I've thought is like not the best way to work out.
What is that way?
I'm like a CT Fletcher.
There's no such thing as overtraining.
You're your little bitch
go harder all right you can always put more hours in he also does like a man he will like
he'll eat like he doesn't he doesn't track his macros or anything ah fuck that and he'll eat
whatever but like not nothing unhealthy like deeply unhealthy right um but then he'll be like i'm you know the saying that everyone
collectively under uh acknowledges is true you can't outwork your diet he always is trying to
outwork his diet yeah but it's insane but you don't eat terrible no no no yeah that's kind of
how i that's kind of how i have that oh okay Okay. Well, you're a different being. Yeah. No, really. I really have been that way.
Okay.
Listen, he's operating with an entirely different mechanism here.
Like, don't compare yourself to him.
Well, maybe if I just put more time in.
What's your body fat percentage right now?
You're 260 pounds.
Probably sub 12 at least.
That's what I'm saying.
He's 260 pounds of pure muscle, dog. That's insane.'m saying. He's doing it. Your muscles.
That's insane.
So what's your,
what's your basal metabolic rate?
Uh, that number right now,
the BMR that's based on like your age or how your weight.
So Google that your basal metabolic rate.
Yeah.
This is actually a really good question because people probably don't know.
Really good.
Um,
it's,
it's basically what your body burns just to operate yeah and it's depending on
your it's dependent on your your you know your lean muscle mass sure it's dependent on your like
how heavy like your muscle mass is um and and you know whether you're sedentary or not as well i
guess that that factors into your basal metabolic rate or technically not that's excess so that'll
be outside yeah basal is like age,
height,
weight,
like all just your body to function.
Mine is higher than you'd expect because I'm constantly clenching and on
cleansing my sphincter.
That would be,
no,
no,
no,
that's actually,
no,
no,
that's a different,
that,
that you're joking,
but that's literally some people who are very fidgety,
unironically have a higher daily burn rate.
Yeah.
Then isn't there some statistic where
supermodels are disproportionately representative by adhd people like there's a disproportionate
or like percentage of them that are adhd because they're constantly they're like constantly moving
fidgeting yeah that actually factors in all of those all of those like marginal differences in
lifestyle dramatic like lead to dramatically different results over your entire lifespan.
So, yeah.
But I was just trying to figure out how many calories does Bradley Martin consume in one day where he's just maintenance.
Like he's not fucking gaining weight or losing weight.
Probably like I've actually had historically a really hard time eating enough food.
That's been like the hardest thing for me.
Oh, you were a skinny boy always?
Yeah.
He doesn't get us.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
He doesn't understand.
I'm sorry.
He doesn't understand our plight at all.
I thought you were a big boy because you're a big guy.
No, I was a hard gainer.
I was very skinny.
Oh, no.
And I had to put on, I was like stuffing myself to eat enough.
Grass is always greener, motherfucker.
Grass is always greener.
He doesn't know.
I'm talking about, so this is the thing I do know about though i know about like people i remember when i first started getting
into working out and i wanted to like put on muscle my friends would make fun of me back when
like facebook was like a cool thing that everyone did and they made an album a very long time ago
obviously um they made an album where it was brad's unfinished meals because i was i was always
talking about how i wanted to get we're all like kind of like bodybuilders i wanted to left meals
unfinished yes bro and not on purpose not because i wanted to get. We're all kind of like bodybuilders. You left meals unfinished?
Yes, bro.
And not on purpose.
Not because I wanted to.
Because I was so fucking stuffed and I would have a hard time eating it.
So they would make fun of me.
They'd take a picture of it and be like, unfinished meals.
That was so much work just to fuck with you.
It was pretty funny, though.
You had the same relationship that we had.
We never leave meals unfinished.
Our Facebook album would be one photo.
It's just empty.
I lick the plate.
Like, usually, if I like something, I'm like, well, you know, I already factored in the
calories for this.
I'm going to lick this plate.
See, the thing is, I got there.
It just took, like, I was to the point where I knew that I needed to eat more food.
Because this is the thing.
A lot of people say, oh, I eat enough food to gain weight.
Like, a lot of the harder gainer guys.
Yeah.
But they just don't.
And they always ask the same question.
What do I do to gain weight?
Is it like a workout of the harder gainer guys yeah but they just don't and they always ask the same question what do i do to gain weight is it like a workout thing it's not like working out will like affect how you like will perform or like if you're gonna grow muscle or if you're
gonna gain strength but gaining weight no matter what you need to eat more food yeah and i got to
the point where i'm literally like eating food and i'm completely full and i'm swallowing by like
drinking the food like almost like swallowing by like drinking the food like
almost like swallowing like a pill to just keep eating oh my god you don't i was forced to eat
myself fantasy dude you're describing you're describing like a future where like if there
was a pill where i could do that i would take that pill every day i would just eat till i
fucking feel disgusting that was my life oh that feels but it but it was because i i needed to gain
weight and it was so
hard like i couldn't swallow we gotta like issue a trigger warning for eating yeah sorry guys
so sorry dude we're we're we came out of the gate swinging on some bad shit but like no like i'll
tell you this much okay uh obviously my entire family's obese uh we have a history of it uh we
have a history of a litany of genetic diseases for that
reason as well i'm the only person in my family who's actually naturally been able to like lose
the weight have a six-pack i'm the only person in my family that ever had a six-pack the only
person in my family who ever such a weird thing to say it's like when someone's like i got a
person in my family to go to college you're the one who's like well i'm the black sheep in that
fucking regard too out of my immediate family i'm the only one without a fucking master's in
anything so like yeah no they're all academics and shit but they're also all obese uh i i you
know went the other way where um but the reason why i brought that up is because like it's obviously
social learning uh that that like unhealthy those unhealthy diet choices like it's something that you learn something that becomes a part of you
but there's also a genetic component there too a genetic factor there i have it on the worst on
all ends my brother got a uh gastric bypass my father got a gastric bypass like the full monty
where they even cut into his fucking intestines too. You, you know what I'm talking about?
That's intense.
A bunch of surgeries.
They're actually working on,
uh,
doctors are getting pretty fucking crazy with it.
It's something I want to talk about.
They are now suggesting it to children.
Gastric bypass.
If you have childhood obesity,
I think it's like you have 50% chance.
If you're,
if you have childhood obesity,
50% chance of becoming an adult with obesity
or an adolescent with obesity.
If you are an adolescent with obesity,
70% chance you're an adult with obesity.
Okay, let me say, this is the thing that's,
and this is a broader topic on what you're just saying.
This is starting to piss me off how like
we are like prescribing these things
without the real problem
because there's so many things that come along
with a surgery like that that people don't understand that actually can be like i was
talking to big boy he had the same thing done you know the big boys radio no so he's a big time like
oh yeah yeah he's been on he's been on radio forever yeah yeah he was huge he lost a lot of
weight yeah and he got the surgery and he said that like yeah he's like figured out a way to move through his life where it's like efficient now yeah but it was a very
hard thing for him so yeah there's a lot of stuff that comes along with it and the thing that
frustrates me about the thing you just said is like we're not fixing the problem we're like
band-aiding everything and we're encouraging a band-aid for this shit where it's like the problem is people's like understanding or know-how or like willingness to try to eat
less shit or like enforce better habits yeah so it's like we're not telling kids like you know
you're the parent we can't tell the parent you'll stop doing this but that's where it starts right
it's also more complicated than that of course like you're you're absolutely correct because like
the gastric bypass which is a crazy surgery
they literally cut your stomach and like make it smaller sometimes they even cut into your
intestines and like make it smaller like my dad has no stomach basically yeah it's like it's the
same way that like this is going to be weird to explain but like a dog will eat food and
immediately shit it out right it's like it's just passing through the body like
uh of an animal super fast but and it's just like picking up whatever it can along the way that's
the same as like my dad says him and he lost hundreds of pounds with this and his life genuinely
improved but the problem is the body is so complex that like if you don't actually build sustainable healthy dietary habits
you're fucked you're gonna relapse even with that surgery and here's the thing too revolving around
what you just said as you talk about passing through with the efficiency like that you're
now missing out on all the nutrients and all the other stuff that you need to function properly as
a human yeah right so now you're cutting this thing that like the rest of your life now you're
going to be taking all these other supplements in order to like
maintain proper health.
So yeah.
Devil's advocate.
Yeah.
Let's say you're someone who just cannot get on a routine.
Right.
Because I'm very sympathetic to that in the sense that when I am stressed,
when I have a fucked up day,
when,
when something goes radically wrong for me,
I go find food. Did you say radically on
purpose? Yeah. My dad always does that. I don't know why he says that. I'm not really webbed,
but, um, like I go find food. It's like a comfort thing for me. So you don't, so you don't think,
even though there is a lot of drawbacks to it, which I get, and I'm sure all the people that
go into a gastric bypass are, are terrified,'s a surgery you don't think that there's some net benefit in perhaps limiting
diabetes and all the other things i do hold on but the thing you just said prior to that was what
you said moments ago you do something because of what or your reasons oh dude i turn to food for
me too sure though see this is what i'm saying like there's nothing wrong if you absolutely
need something because like you've just tried everything and like i was talking to remember
ethan about even like this whole like antidepressant he's gonna make us about this conversation right
now but the thing that you're describing is your inability to create change within yourself
in your own habits and then you're saying well i'll just do this thing right right so there's
a greater issue i mean listen I'm not saying that like,
if you've done everything in your power
to try to fix it or change it
or like overcome it or understand it,
then like maybe it's what you need to do.
But if you can rightfully say,
well, there's these reasons why I end up in this place.
These reasons why are the things you have to address first.
You know what I'm saying?
Like your inability to like stop yourself in these moments. There's something deeper for you as a human for sure that is more
important to like try to understand for sure instead of just go you know what i'm just going
to take that and just do that because then now you've like yeah maybe you've bypassed this issue
but now you have a whole host of other issues that you need to like figure out counterpoint
yeah go ahead cookies are fucking bro i mean listen and they make me feel so good yeah no okay i'm not gonna lie man dude what do you have to say
about cookies no let's talk about this for real like i love food i love food so much the story
i was telling earlier was like my before now i have a hard time not eating food yeah when i was
younger it was like i was forcing it to like get a basically increase my gut size so that i could
eat more food to try to gain
more weight.
But now I love food and I understand completely how like fucking addictive it
is.
But it's like,
there's just other things that I go,
okay,
well what else do I really want?
Like how do I really want to feel?
So let's zoom out.
Would you consider yourself a type a person?
Like a psychopath?
No,
no,
no,
no,
no.
I mean, I'm considering myself myself there's like type a and type
b we're like type a people are like very regimented they're organized they they are
meticulous type b are like kind of your you know like us like scattergun approach like well i would
say i'm a mix of both almost like yeah it based on what you just described it yeah like i'm not
super regimented but i know what works for me.
And I know like my bandwidth, how far I can go without, I'm like, okay, I have to change
this or pull back.
But I am super kind of like, I don't know, like OCD with certain things where my brain
just kind of like goes over them so many times, even though I already know like whatever the
answer is.
And I just keep recounting it.
Do you think that that kind of affects or improves your ability to bodybuild and strength train? Probably. Yeah.
Cause it's like, I feel like it's just like this idea that it's never, it's not enough. So I just
kind of keep going. Um, and yeah, I don't know. It's a weird thing. Like I remember in school,
I would always study my like form of studying was I would just like look at something enough
and then I would just like recount the information in my mind. And I wasn't really like, I don't know if I was really understanding as much as I was
just like memorizing things. So a lot of my life is like just doing things in this repetitive nature.
And then I just like, I can't unknow it because I've done it so many times that I just know it.
So for bodybuilding, if we're talking about training, it was just that same, like I need
to do these things because I did these things before.
And for me to get better, I need to do these things
plus more of these other things.
And if I let go of these things that I've already done,
I don't know, I'm not saying this is right or wrong,
but, like, it would always feel like it had to compound.
Like, I couldn't stop.
If I did these 10 things and then did these,
I had to do these 10 things and then these
and then everything else and then start from the beginning always.
You're describing how, you know, I i mean this sounds almost like one of those books where it's like
how to build healthy habits for your mind but like that is how i have also been able to accomplish
things that i always wanted to accomplish and it's something that i tell people all the time
like this is what you're supposed to do for example uh you know i i recognize it's a bit
of a cliche but like it takes 21 days of like consistency to build a healthy habit,
usually around two to three to break it,
depending on how long you've actually had that healthy habit, right?
Going to the gym every day, for example.
Brushing your teeth, like tracking your macros, shit like that.
I have always had short-term goals and long-term goals,
and my short-term goals will, you know, lead to me unlocking short-term goals and long-term goals and my short-term goals will you know lead
to me uh unlocking my midterm goals and then ultimately my long-term goals and that's that's
like what most people i think build around it's like calories and calories out most diets are
centered around that fundamental aspect of calories and calories out you can like
you know put a different twist on it but i feel like that is at the heart of how to accomplish goals that you set for yourself yeah absolutely pretty much
um i want to go back to the conversation that we had about uh food in general and because i feel
like there was a couple things that i i wanted to address there you're absolutely correct i think
that internally,
a diet,
you can have an unhealthy diet,
you can have a healthy diet.
It doesn't matter.
It's still a diet.
It's what you're putting in your body.
Okay? It's fuel.
It could taste good.
It could taste bad.
It doesn't matter.
Ultimately,
if you don't have a sustainable diet
for the rest of your life,
you're going to yo-yo.
You're going to swing back.
You're going to gain weight.
And that's why the
gas should bypass without actually like reconfiguring your healthy uh choices that you're supposed to
be making developing a better understanding of like what your body needs um and you know having
like a good macro nutrient uh having a a good understanding of like different percentages of
macros that you need to get to
feed yourself without any of that you're just basically kind of forcing your body to just eat
less and you will always lose weight that way absolutely because ultimately you know you're
just eating less but that's precisely the reason why a lot of people that do get that surgery end
up like developing addiction to things like a lot of people develop like a intense sugar craving
some people have become addicted to alcohol i think like i've heard but this makes sense because
we're talking about the whole idea of the process of going through and going through fast when you
don't have enough like the vitamin the minerals and nutrients and your body's not able to readily
absorb those things that's when you crave other things. So that's why when people diet really hard,
they're like, man, I just need to eat.
I want to eat like...
I remember one point I'm dieting really hard for like a show,
and I craved the fuck out of these dried mangoes.
And I love mangoes in general, but I love dried mangoes,
and I just couldn't eat enough.
And when I started eating them, I was like ravenous.
I could eat bags and bags of these things.
And it felt like it was never enough.
Though it's like when you diet super hard,
which is this gastric bypass kind of is internally making you do that all the time you can't eat
anything yeah so your body's not uptaking all these other things that are going to make you feel
like i'm satiated like i'm hungry i don't need this like i don't feel like i need this sugar i
don't feel like i need this we're talking about alcohol whatever but there's other things that
will like pull towards and everyone's uniquely different in this in this respect but yeah that's the that's where you create these issues and i think it's funny because
the thing that happens long term we talk about what you were just saying the thing that you need
to fix prior to like doing this or not doing this making this decision is like your habits around
your diet because once you do it you're forced to fix it because if not then you're going to run
into these other issues yeah so it's like the other way to fix it is the proper like supplementation and actually knowing what you're
eating what you should be eating and then all these other things that revolve around that so
that you feel good after a surgery which is like what if you just did that first yeah well that's
my mind that's why before the surgery even though like doctors don't really follow on this at least
anecdotally i know this from two close family members who have done it but they tell you you got to lose 30 pounds on your own before we do
the surgery one they say it's because like they want to make sure you're healthy enough for the
surgery you don't die during the process of the surgery but i legitimately think it's because
they want to instill healthy like they want to make sure that you can lose the weight first and foremost so you can
like continue eating uh properly after but the reality is because it's just like when you when
you do the surgery when you come out of the surgery you drink water you want to throw up
you eat like to this day to this day my dad eats more than he's like you know more than a couple
bites of food he literally like feels like
he has to throw up same with my brother i'm wondering just like what is that mentally is
your dad clear is he like hey i feel great or you know i think i think when you're at the precipice
of like when you're literally have to be in a medically induced coma at a certain point because
of how obese you are and then like you come back from that and you no longer have diabetes uh you know what i mean i think like yes you are definitely better off
for sure if you're like almost dead and you can't of course walk and then you can do all of those
things again like i didn't know all this i didn't know that was to that extent yeah yeah no no no
it's not like when i say obese i'm talking like my whole family's more like real deal yeah yeah okay like fuck like my my dad was like television obese like when they when they put
him on the yeah like holy shit yeah yeah he was he isn't anymore i don't think you've ever even
seen my dad like that obese no tall guy obviously yeah he's tall guy yeah okay but like yeah he was
like hundreds of pounds i don't even know how i'm fucking like 300 plus 300 try fucking like almost five i think what the fuck yeah oh you're not
kidding bro i was 320 pounds i was 320 pounds at my peak and like i always had a little bit of
muscle like i always had muscle underneath too but like i was pretty obese too yeah but 500 is different yeah that's yeah yeah he's in a
different league yeah my brother was like 300 and he got it and um it definitely helped him but like
now he has to still diet you just got to still diet because he relapsed like he gained a lot
of weight now he's losing it again um so yeah these are these are healthy habits that you need
to instill upon yourself but it
makes it it's really hard because food is very addictive like certain types of food is very
addictive that's like really bad for you ultimately if you have too much of it why is that a thing bro
why the fuck is that a thing scientists figure it out like it's kind of pissing i don't think
they want to do they work yeah conspiracies no it just like pisses me off that like delicious shit
i want to have so much of it like pizza i want to have pizza all the time no it's so fucking good
yeah because it's just carbs and fucking fat like it's just literally scientifically created to make
you want to eat i think it's like it goes back to like sensation of fullness right and that's what
like overeaters seek and it's not like oh
i'm i'm satiated it's like my insulin is fucking crashing and i can fall asleep now that is like
and that's like billions of years of evolution right where like if a chimpanzee found like a
really fatty corpse right fat is so precious in nature if you watch any survival show guys are
dying eating rabbits
and moose and all this kind of stuff because there's no fat so you can eat all the protein
you want but you in you cannot sustain without fat so your brain when you find fat is like you
just hit the gold mine motherfucker lay that shit down problem is when we mix it with carbs
big time that's when you fucked it up but it tastes good yeah yeah it's so good but yeah bingey he you
just described like he he is basically scientifically describing what is the reason
why people like fucking gorge themselves yeah which is crazy though because it's like that's
not our that's not our life anymore no you know what i'm saying it took a lot we need to adjust
but there's a lot of things we've got we got. We got Postmates, dog. So I was like that my entire life.
And I never actually changed it up.
I actually just started doing OMAD one meal a day.
Made it much easier to track my calories.
And I still got that sensation.
Until two years ago when I, like, during COVID, when I couldn't work out,
like, lost all my muscle mass atrophied and pretty
much put back every single pound in fat and then some shot back up to like 280 um and you know
and i was fucking so depressed i just like couldn't move everything felt slow couldn't breathe
after like 50 minutes of standing i just just hated myself. I was like so insanely depressed.
And then when I went back into it, I tried doing OMAD again and I couldn't.
So now the way I basically have trained myself to not do that and not look, not seek that pleasure anymore.
How'd you train yourself to not do that?
Slowly but surely this is like
weird because like dieticians would probably prescribe this as like to someone who with an
eating disorder but slowly but surely i started like i i started breaking my fast early and um
and then just like training myself to basically eat meals without feeling like intensely full.
And now I have two meals a day instead of one meal a day.
How do you, how do you make yourself not feel intensely full just because you started eating
smaller meals?
Yeah.
You just, how do you, how do you fucking.
It's funny though.
Cause like.
How do you train, how do you train yourself to diet adequately?
Exactly.
It's the same shit.
Yeah.
It's always the same shit.
It's literally, it's like a muscle.
You just train it.
You train yourself. There's a deep shame when you get to that real gorge.
Sometimes I still break, but God damn.
I always tell this story.
I was a big boy, but Hasan was totally a different level.
We went to Vegas.
We went to Vegas.
Oh, dude.
We went to a buffet.
We went to a buffet.
You know the buffets in Vegas are insane.
They're legendary.
Yeah.
Incredible. So we're sitting there, and we're throwing down everything you know all cider ribs play that
fettuccine alfredo why not and we go through this and we're both just like um like sucking wind just
and hassan's like man i gotta get a dessert bro and i was like i don't know i'm kind of and he's
like i gotta get a dessert and i was like all right bet go grab something like let's work through it my man
came back i've never seen anybody do this took the platter that was housing an entire pie of pizza
and he brought it back and put it on the table and he's like i was like dude that's that's not
dessert and he's like i know but i saw it looks. And he's like, I know, but I saw it. It looks so good.
He sat there after we gorged ourselves at a buffet and ate an entire pie of pizza by himself,
like burrito style.
Like he folded them up.
There are no slices in it.
Like that's so good.
I'm like, I'm going to make a pizza burrito.
You don't understand, bro.
I have had sugar hangovers i've never this is
like a medical phenomena where i eat so many cookies and pizza are my two biggest weaknesses
right and like i have eaten so many cookies at a certain point like i'm talking 30 40 right like
these are 300 calories of a cookie and i'm eating like 30 i'm throwing 30 of these
back like there's no tomorrow so much so that my tongue hurts bro what the like my body is
literally telling me like dude you have to stop this is my body is so overstimulated by the
chocolate is melting i don't feel like your heart's pounding? Yeah.
No, that's twisted.
Yeah.
That's fucking twisted. We're talking about it like we're in a recovery meeting.
It's like we just needed one hit, man.
Dude, what the fuck?
Dude, and it's like my body is like saying to me, basically, to my brain, this is poison now.
Like, stop eating it.
Yeah.
Like, please, please stop eating it.
It's poison.
And I'm still like, oh, just shoving it down my gullet and and then the next day i'm literally like i'm faded like
you know you get cloudy after smoking weed the next day or like you get hung over from drinking
it was like that i had a sugar hangover the next day oh that's insane yeah no i mean i don't do it anymore obviously but um
i've had times like this i haven't had moments after like i did competition shit where like it
became a super issue to like just stop eating i remember i could eat like pints of this ben and
jerry's ice cream like three pints in a in like in one city oh my god like it was just disgusting
that's i would do it every night what is is that? Like 3,000 calories of ice cream? Just ice cream.
So I love ice cream.
I still eat a pint of ice cream.
I just substituted it to fucking,
NYX is one brand that is new that I really love.
They do Swedish ice cream.
Halo Top is another one.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I can't, though.
When I do that, I'm like, ah, it's just not what I wanted.
If I'm going to cheat, I'm going to cheat.
No, I can trick my brain.
I can't, dude.
I eat it, and I know this is not it. No, I know. But I have a huge sweet tooth. like if i'm gonna cheat i'm gonna cheat like no i can i can trick my like i trick i can't dude i
eat and i know this is not it no i know but i i have a i have a huge sweet tooth it works for me
it doesn't work for everybody you know it works for me which is not a cheater it's not like a
breaking the cheat i eat you know like vegan ice creams i'm just like well it's vegan i'm like i'm
good dog what you're a trainer you know that's not real i know it's still like 700 calories
but i'm like it's vegan fuck it i'm good yeah they pump that shit full of sugar
and it's less protein too what the fuck it's like literally worse for you yo try fair life Yo, try Fairlife. Yes.
It's incredible.
Yeah, that's great.
500 calories per pop, though.
Can you play with that a little bit?
That one fucks up sometimes.
Got an iffy cable. Wait, speak into it.
Now?
Yeah, you can hear me.
Yeah, okay.
Cool house ice cream.
Oh, what the fuck?
Okay.
Speaking to it again.
Yeah.
We're good.
Solid.
Okay.
Good.
Good.
Okay.
Yeah, dude.
Cool house is fucking insane.
That's why like my, like those ice cream sandwiches, the vegan ones with the, I know they have
extra sugar too.
Cause I read it.
I'm like, Oh, it's vegan.
The chocolate chip cookies.
Oh bro.
Oh, so good.
I like literally fucking order this shit late at night. Like, Oh, I just, I love it. I'm like, oh, it's vegan. With the chocolate chip cookies? Yes. Oh, bro. Oh, so good. I like literally fucking order this shit
late at night.
Like,
oh,
I just,
I love that.
I love the cool house ice cream sandwiches.
First of all,
they're like barely vegan.
Do you postmate cool house?
I don't want to talk about.
Yeah,
that's fine.
I said,
there's a,
there's a,
that's a double level.
That was a place.
Postmating shit.
You can get at the grocery store.
I used to do that.
There was a vegan ice cream place in Hollywood that I used to order from.
They made ice cream sandwiches and they would have like snickerdoodle cookies as the fucking,
it was vegan.
Snickerdoodle cookies as the base of like the sandwich.
And then the middle ice cream part was like, they called it like cotton candy or something,
which I never thought I would like but it was so
fucking delicious. I mean those
are like around if you have like 500 to 600
calories and you like really want to have
that you can that's that's
I eat them still. I love them.
I would love to see how long it would take a
chimpanzee with a postmates
account to kill himself.
You know what I mean like how dogs have those
panels where they're like go
out go outside yeah it's like a chimpanzee and he can order things like a week
yeah you know that like picture of the orangutan with like the
the breath oh my god that's one of my funniest that's one of the funniest me yeah that would That would be him at the zoo just going, five guys, five guys, five guys.
Bro.
Dude.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Did I fuck it up again?
No, it's still working.
It's working.
But, yeah, I just, fuck, man.
God, I love food.
There's just nothing more to say other than that.
I just love food.
You just got to deal with it um but no i was saying like i cheat with uh smart sweets is another brand i use oh that's
like the the sour stuff dude yeah but it's really good because like it has a lot of fiber in it it's
100 it's 100 calories per pack and and you know you get like a little it tricks my brain into
thinking that i'm like consuming you know jelly beans or some shit you know what get like a little it tricks my brain into thinking that i'm like consuming you know
jelly beans or some shit you know what i mean like because i love i love candy like that but
it's so packed with fucking uh fiber it's awesome like it's kind of filling it's kind of filling at
night i have that because i have to have my night candy which is like the worst thing yeah my night
candy yeah it's the worst thing the fact that you say I have to have my night candy.
Yeah.
You should start addressing that.
No, I have.
That's what I'm saying.
But not with night candy.
Like address it outside of the candy.
That sounds like it could be the next Frank Ocean album.
No, straight up.
Night candy?
Yo, that's some accurate shit.
Whoa, that was good.
Holy shit.
My night candy.
Fuck, dude.
My night candy.
It sounds way sexy and cooler when you
say it like that it's just candy at the bedside on my side table my nightstand yeah god all right
i have something i want to talk about today topic change we're getting into it definitively
scientists i'm not a scientist but go ahead they have reversed the aging process in mice
they have been successful you can pull up a picture billy where there's a picture of this
old ass mouse and then he looks like a young chad mouse again it's like he's fucking all the other
mouse yeah dude he like this they brought this mouse back he had like holes in his ears and shit
tearing mice yeah yeah yeah he's tearing mice pussy i mean look at this dude he
had holes in his motherfucking ears i feel like now he looks great i feel like there's a little
edited oh that's it you think they photoshop filters a little just a little bit like they
put a little bit they face tuned him a little bit i feel like they color that's like the chris
jenner filter he's so used to the tiktok fitfluencers and shit
he's like no i see that as bro i've seen that so so it's not natty i actually did this yeah
that's what they're claiming how do we feel about well it's because if the avatar came out they were
talking about the stuff from the whales it's like that's what's happening now yeah they found the
whale juice they found the whale juice yeah damn dude i mean how do you
feel about that great i love dude i love medicine man i'm i'm a big i'm a big advocate for steroids
too like i wish that it was more socially acceptable like not even that but i just i
wish that like you know it wasn't uh regarded with like such disdain so that you know scientists
could like really study it yeah you
know and fucking give me some over-the-counter anivar dog that's what i want i want that shit
so bad because it's like but here's the eternal question what are you living forever if you get
the chance are you reversing the aging process and just sticking around or is life this beautiful
ephemeral moment that needs to end to
have any kind of meaning you got to have all the homies on that too though because like you can't
be the only one alive that's boring so if you're living forever i'm by by proxy yeah we're doing
it together yeah we got to get the family on board you can't i'm not really good question
yeah really good question um i think like you said like you could definitely want to want to
do that alone then it's like imagine that where you see all your loved ones like disappear right because it's going
to be expensive definitely going to be expensive i don't know i feel like that like you said the
last part of your question was answers it it's like if if life is just forever then is it really
what it is or is that just this is now just a new version of what life is yeah because like how we
see it and how we regard and like our i think as humans
like our desire to achieve certain things or to have certain things is also based on the fact that
our time here is pretty finite at least with the time that we have here on this earth depending
on obviously people believe different religions different things like what's happening after but
our actual time here i think part of the the beautiful thing of life is that it ends and it
allows us to want to succeed and to go so far so if you took that
away because it was just some thing which obviously maybe you couldn't get to that thing if you didn't
have enough money anyway it's like you'd have to get there to that finish line i think our
motivations would change dramatically exactly but i have a different opinion on this if if life was
like almost infinite can you imagine like a piece of you you imagine like a 108 year old dude still living with his mom where he's like, I'm going to go to college, mom.
I'm only 108.
No, but.
Give me some time to figure it out.
No, but that's what I mean.
Like there are.
So one thing that has happened as life expectancy is like increased dramatically over the course of, you know, human humankind living on this planet.
Yeah. of you know human humankind living on this planet is that like we now have more time to i think
experience childhood in a different way where you're not like becoming a chimney sweep at the
age of seven you know what i mean you're not like oh what am i gonna do about the fucking 401k
smoking smoking a boat you're like seven dog chill so i think that that is a good thing overall and i feel like maybe our
maybe we take things slower and not in like uh like oh you're lame you're procrastinating kind
of way but almost in like a fucking zen yes like but i do allow yourself to experience life i think
where that opens up some people to experiencing life, I think that also creates a huge dilemma, right?
And we've seen this,
I think with a lot of young men or because they don't have an imperative to
grow up or like they're lying in a spear moment where they're challenged to go
out and like find strength within themselves,
they become lost,
they become listless.
Like,
and this kind of plays into that incel narrative or whatever,
just young men who are unrealized, that are lost,
and they're willing to ascribe to hokum or snake oil merchants
because they're so kind of lost in their life
and they don't have a direction.
They don't have a way to push forward.
And you think living forever would make that,
would exacerbate that?
Oh, so bad.
Yeah, no, I totally see that.
That's why I'm saying like, you know to we need to keep people busy somehow still yeah like i understand the
need for that for sure ultimately that comes from within though you just got to kind of want it and
i think a lot of these people like do well it's not very Marxist of me to say actually i was gonna
there's two points to this one you got to do it from within like that's
an internal want an internal desire i've never for a moment in my life uh ever thought that i
wasn't destined for greatness it sounds very weird to say but i always from the jump possibly due to
like really good parenting i was always like no i'm gonna fuck shit up i'm gonna tear it up and
i was a fucking loser i don't know where the fuck I got this attitude from.
Right.
But I was like, I was a fat kid who drew like nonstop.
I was just drawing comic book scenes and, you know, socially outcast from like my Turkish peers at the time.
And I still was like, no, one day I'm just going to fuck shit up.
Did you feel like that?
Absolutely.
Did I?
I was going to.
We'll talk about it.
I want to ask you this.
Did I ask you this on my podcast up. Did you feel like that? Absolutely. Did I? I was going to, we'll talk about it. I want to ask you this. Did I ask you this on my podcast?
Did I ask you about that?
That idea of like feeling like there was when you were younger,
that there was something.
I don't think so.
So my question to you,
you just said you've always felt that way,
right?
Yeah.
Where,
where did you like,
where do you feel it?
Was it thing in your mind?
You're like,
I,
I know that I have this.
Or was it like in your heart?
Like,
where did you feel it?
Was it like,
you know, you have these inner dialogues with ourself. was not i don't think it was logical i just always was like uh it doesn't have to be logical i'm just saying where did you
where was it was in your mind i think originally it was not logical it was in my heart in my soul
if you will right where i was just like i had dreams of like really just achieving a lot of success,
no matter where it was. I, it wasn't like fully realized.
It wasn't like fully put together.
It wasn't as like structured as like,
I'm going to go to this college and then I'm going to do this.
Like, cause I just thought no matter what I do, I'm going to be good at it.
I'm going to be successful at it. I know that I can, you know,
work hard and achieve those things,
right? That was the thing that definitely motivated me when I was younger, but I never
actually had that. I had never realized the results of it. So I always felt like I was being
undermined and other people did not see the value that I saw within myself for a very long time until and this is a really pivotal
moment in my life i achieved one of the dreams i always had which was to sound silly but to finally
be uh an athletic person to be able to dunk and to have a six-pack that sounds so vapid so shallow and so stupid i love that it was something that i
wanted my entire life and was never able to get it so when i actually fucking you know said fuck
this i'm doing it and over the course of one year went from 280 pounds all the way down to like 220
pounds or 200 300 pounds to 225 pounds uh 12 13 body fat was able to dunk was like putting up
you know really great numbers in the gym i realized this was the most like this was the
apex of all achievement for me and i realized the value of hard work there where i was like oh i can
achieve anything i want as long as i just fucking
put my head down and no matter how tough things get keep pushing away at the problem keep like
sisyphus fucking just go up the mountain this is exactly what my whole life is based on yeah the
whole gym thing is just a physical representation of like consistency over time and going through
shit that's hard that hurts and then it makes you better like everything you just described is
like how everything you know even earlier we're talking about dieting and like overcoming these
things like obviously there's certain issues like genetically that you can't just like if you're
predisposed you can't just like overcome i mean i had a lot of those yeah and it sounds like that
yeah so it's like you you even overcame a lot of that things like clearly and you still figured your shit out and you you don't have a gastric bypass surgery like no man like that is
that's fucking life to me and i i wish i don't know i but it translates to other avenues in my
life is what i'm saying like which that's why you have this shit because because it gave me the
confidence to believe in myself it finally i produced results in one area that seemed more
unachievable than anything else like it it always seemed like a dream that i could never get to that
i always dreamt of and once i was able to do that through consistency and through hard work
i realized i can translate to that to anything else that i want to achieve so it gave me that
confidence which is why even when I got really fat,
like I was like,
Oh no,
it's fine.
I can recover from this.
And I have like,
I have like went back on it and I,
now I have a consistent regimen.
I'm working out super hard.
I've been injured many times,
had many setbacks throughout that process,
had moments where I like relapse or whatever.
But ultimately I know that I have that confidence because I'd done it one
time.
Yeah.
One thing I would say about fitness though, that that's amazing to me is a lot of people ask
me, how do I start a fitness routine?
How do I get into going to the gym?
Because I'm a gym rat.
I love it.
It's meditative for me.
It's a huge part of my process.
And if I didn't have the gym, I'd freak out.
What I always say is fitness, gym work is the closest thing on this planet to alchemy,
right? is fitness gym work is the closest thing on this planet to alchemy right there are so many things
where we put so much into them your career your relationships and you might not get one-to-one
out right you put something in and for whatever reason luck you know you might not get the same
results out the gym fitness it's always one-to-one put these things in and you will get something out and that is like
the closest thing in a long enough timeline yes and especially if you're doing the right thing
here's the deal in relation to what you just said it's when you say one-to-one it's because of self
right yeah but the ironic thing about that is like it's true for all this other stuff we as humans
will have such a hard time accepting when like something outside of ourself doesn't go the way
that we want it to be like a relationship or a business or a friendship whatever that we make that about
ourselves but the truth is that's just part of our experience and i think the more more humans
could understand that like that core value one-to-one relationship with ourself that's what
matters in all of these other avenues whether they work out the way we want them to work out or not
because how we truly ultimately want those things to work out.
Like,
for example,
if you want love,
you have to be able to give love,
right.
And vice versa.
So if you're not able to fully love yourself,
you're not able to fully love another person.
True.
So everything does come down to ourselves and us,
not,
not,
not in a selfish way,
but just in a way where it's like,
I think people,
you know,
we talk about all these other topics,
food and all that stuff.
We,
we have such a hard time accepting. We need to be that change and we need to be better so we constantly look for
outside things like oh i'll get a bypass surgery not that it's not a good idea in some cases it is
but we always look for this like outside external thing to like fix us yeah when the reality is it's
it is from within right there are certain things I said, genetic predispositions that you cannot change, that you will need to figure out
some sort of help if you can, if you have that ability. But it's interesting, you talk about
this. I just think it's so important for people to realize like this, this thing of self, this
one-to-one transaction, because you're right. You go to the gym, the food you put in your body,
the water you put in the body, it's all going to have this output that you're going to get from
the work that you put in. So what's going to be people's catalyst
for having that realization?
Because you can, there's a difference between going,
okay, it has to be me.
And then actually having that change.
Okay, goes back to what he said earlier.
There was just for some reason,
and I felt the same exact way about my life.
When I had nothing, there was no reason to believe this.
Despite all my circumstances, I was like, there's, I just want so much more out of my life.
And I, and I wanted to ask you this when we were talking about it.
I have no idea where that came from.
I have no idea.
It's gotta be parenting.
It wasn't even parenting.
Like I grew up without a father.
My mom wasn't like, you can be anything in the world.
Like it just happened.
I feel like you just have it.
If you put just genetically, just have it.
I think, no, I don't think it's like genetic predetermination i think so i think it's uh uh numerous components that factor into it and it's
different for everyone but i think like uh a a level of privilege uh certainly plays a role in
it even if you're like i think that probably plays a role in it yeah like if for example being a white
dude being a straight white
dude is like obviously it doesn't fix everything and you still have plenty of struggles to overcome
yeah but it's pretty sick right yeah i mean it's white guys you know straight white guys
but like but like there are a lot of additional hurdles that you don't have to overcome not being that you know what i mean yeah that probably like
uh the way society is designed it probably like the the fucking main characters that you see in
movies and shit like that builds your brain up in a way where you're like maybe i i am destined for
greatness like all these other fucking dudes that look like me have done it without even realizing
it you kind of internalize that for me like i i had all
these you know issues but ultimately i think i had a great upbringing and you know i'm turkish
i'm growing up in turkey there isn't like uh uh you know from a from a upper class like privileged
affluent family i think that probably was uh one of the main reasons why i always felt like you know i got it yeah um but i don't know
i think it's like a level of privilege that also kind of guides you that way my goal always is to
also change the system so that everyone can feel that everyone can feel like uh this is a welcoming
and not hostile society and that you can also achieve your results so here's the thing man i
and also fix
the material conditions i somewhat disagree because i don't think it's about changing the
system i think it's about people changing themselves because when you talk about privilege
i grew up without a father my father hung himself when i was six in the garage jesus christ and i
just want to say this really quickly like i don't think i was privileged by any means because in my
mind as a six-year-old and i'm start growing up i'm i look at everyone around me and i was like
why don't i have the things that they have why don don't I have this? Why don't I have, like,
I'm not, I'm not experiencing the things that I wish these other people had. Like I wish I had
them. Right. And still in my mind though, I still had that conclusion that like, man, I still feel
like despite my circumstances, there's something more for me. And I still, that's why I keep going
back to this idea. Like, I think there's some other thing there and like the ironic part about this whole idea of you talk about fixing the
system is like we are the system right this is comprised of all of us but ultimately like
it it truly and even going back to the diet thing like it truly and genuinely legitimately changes
uh people's outlook without even people realizing it
well that's why america and mexico have such higher rates of obesity than fucking europe
because little things like uh that you would never even consider like walkable cities in europe
and public transportation for example and then also what kind of foods that they're not allowed to eat as a consequence of
their own for own fda you know banning certain types of shit is the reason why they're skinnier
on average than the american because americans drive board raptors and fucking and and they the
only type of like exercise that they have in their otherwise sedentary lifestyles is when they go to the gym.
Clean your guns.
When they go to the gym.
But yeah, but like that is absolutely something that you never would consider that factors into your life.
You just got to ask yourself like, wait a minute, why the fuck are these Europeans so goddamn skinny?
But I do think there's something to what he is saying that like, there are people
that create an end zone for themselves. And I think when you, for whatever reason, develop this
image of like, that's myself down the road, this is what I ascribe to. It creates a place in your
mind where you can steer into suffering. You can steer into discomfort because there is an end zone,
even if it's just something you've created. And it is interesting to think about like, what is it that creates that end zone? For me,
I'm really different than you guys. I never thought that I was like destined for greatness.
My motivator. And I've always told you this was vengeance. Everybody who is cruel to me,
everybody, you know, who underestimated me, I was like, well, I'm either going to burn out
or I'm going gonna be better than
they are i'm gonna show them what i can do yeah and that that was always the i burn dirty just
the whole way like that's you know broccoli steer into suffering all that for the record i'm not
saying that like your personal want and personal desires for self-improvement are not an important
factor in this absolutely it is but like i'll i'll
give you a another like macro i'll give you another macro picture of this like like the reason why um
there aren't you know incredible comp sci engineers coming out of zimbabwe is not because like they
are not dreaming hard enough like we all recognize it is because like,
well,
these motherfuckers don't have access to clean water.
I think that's like probably something that needs to be solved first before people can like dare to dream in that way.
So that's why I always talk about like fixing material problems,
underlying material problems in society to unlock the potential of people who
otherwise are not even like thinking about that.
I understand that of course i i
think we were both thinking outside the kalahari bushman yeah yeah no no i know i'm giving that
extreme example because like it's one that everyone immediately understands it's like oh
yeah that's right no i get it i totally get it i think i think at its core though like if you can't
immediately fix these issues that are surrounding society and people and
certain circumstances of groups of people yeah you can though start within yourself and that's
all i'm saying yeah no absolutely because to zoom out and and focus on what he's saying there are
plenty of people with every advantage still fuck it up yeah that never find that self-motivation
as a matter of fact a lot of people that come from like super rich families like you see them
they're they have fucking fail sons and daughters because like or they become
cops because they yeah well because they haven't like they they haven't done they haven't had
enough like healthy adversity even in their lives uh to to to understand the value of hard work even
when you have everything served to you from, uh,
from birth,
like you're not going to,
you're not going to pan out in a super successful way.
It doesn't really matter ultimately,
because like when you're rich enough,
when your family's rich enough,
you can just like fail upwards.
And there's a lot of people at the tippy top right now that have done that.
You know what I mean?
That have failed upwards now.
But,
um,
yeah,
I,
I think that there's always going to be adversity regardless no matter what happens
and there's going to be different social uh hierarchies that we we aspire towards that we
want to that we want to move towards no matter what happens like those things can can change
but i still do believe that like um the systems are ultimately infinitely more powerful than we can imagine with the way that we exist inside of them.
And that doesn't mean, you know, drop everything, be sad all the time and say, oh, man, well, I got fucked over.
So fuck you.
Of course, self-improvement is the best way to feel better about yourself as well.
And to become a person that is even capable of making systemic change or to inspire others it's
literally what i do every day and try to try to instill in my audience as well um it's not a left
or right thing zooming out a little bit i had a question for you yeah go for it what was your
first day in the gym what was the reason you first crossed that fucking threshold i remember the
reason why yeah why did you first get in the gym uh well it originally
started with sports because i played football when i was younger sure and then uh and then i was i
realized why i really like lifting weights more than i really enjoyed actually playing the sport
of football sure and i think for me was and i'm gonna try not to get emotional Emotional.
Fuck, sorry.
It's, uh, why does this still happen?
I'm so fucking old.
I've done this so many times.
It's all right.
It's okay, man.
It was, it was.
Oh, no.
Jesus Christ.
That'll help me out. Okay, you're Christ. That'll help me out.
Okay, you're good.
That'll help me out.
So, yeah, no, for me it was, I was trying to avoid these thoughts that I just always had in relationship to my father and his passing. And, like, the idea that why did this happen to me?
Why do other people have what I don't have?
How come I'm dealing with this?
Why are these my circumstances?
And I think I dealt with that for so long that like when i started like from six and i'm like i remember going to
school and like i remember the way i would like walk to school and what i would think about before
school what i would think about like i was just non-stop in my mind and i think when i found the
gym i was like when i did the gym and i'm training like say for example the bench press it was like
that those thoughts okay and it was the only time that they went away.
So then I was like, oh, I'm addicted to this shit.
And I didn't realize it right away, but that's why I did it.
Cause every time I did it, this, this cloud was like lifted.
Yeah.
And I just felt like I needed it.
So it was like, fuck sports, fuck everything.
I just wanted to not think about this shit that I could not, like I told you earlier,
I'm recounting, I recount, that's how I learned.
My whole life, imagine like from six and I'm trying to, I recount, that's how I learn. My whole life,
imagine like from six
and I'm trying to figure out like,
what's life?
What's the purpose of life?
Why did my dad kill himself?
Why did he leave me?
Am I not good enough?
Why does my friend have his dad?
How come I don't have,
and I'm just fucking nonstop doing this
and I found the gym
and I'm like,
oh, it's quiet.
It just hit the mute.
It's fucking quiet here
and I need that.
And I think that's also why
I'm the kind of person
that I'm very like,
I'm like,
and I talk about these concepts
about like self because I was so focused in words for so many
years. And I was like, I have this, like, you know, obviously I don't know how to say it kind
of like dogged desire to make everyone feel the same way that I felt, but I know that that's not
a reality and that can't happen. But like, I realized that's what helped me. And that's why
I think I try to push it that way, even though I know there obviously are substantial systematic
things that affect the way people could even act in an in a in a system in
the world etc but yeah man i i just it disappeared everything was quiet and i was like i need this
yeah i need this so it was like more i did this and i would just spend hours in the gym
didn't matter what i was doing and then then i started to find people in the gym
um father-like figures older men that would be like, do this, do that.
And I was like, whoa, this is what I was also looking for.
And then it became this whole ecosystem of like, this is why I'm here.
I need this feeling because I was searching for it my whole life.
I didn't have it and I felt like I was finally getting it here.
And I was reducing the noise and I just felt more calm.
Do you feel like in a way, you know arnold always said sculptors they work with clay
they're building yeah building with my did you feel like there was also kind of a form of like
expression like where what you were doing in the gym and your body and your output became like
obviously you turned it into a form of expression right you made content around it and yeah i think
not so that wasn't really like my love for it i think I got to the point like when social media became a thing,
because I didn't do working out.
Cause I was like,
I'm going to be a social media influencer.
Cause that's a thing now today.
It just kind of happened.
Yeah,
it happened.
And,
and,
but I think then once I started doing cool shit,
the people were like,
Oh,
that's cool.
I thought it was cool that people thought it was cool.
So I was like trying different ways to,
to like impress people.
Yeah.
But it was never like,
I was never so much like,
Oh,
this form of art in a sense, as you describing it um but i just i just need the fucking gym man because it
made me feel good about myself no i i totally understand the therapeutic nature of working out
and no matter what is going wrong in other avenues of your life remember i told you about this with
with respect to streaming when i told you like i just cut out all the outside noise yeah and all of a sudden when i turn on my stream it's definitely an addiction
but when i turn it on like everything else is quiet i'm hyper focused on entertaining
30 000 40 000 people every single moment for the next eight hours and that's like so crazy yeah
it's but it's awesome for me and the gym is a similar
thing as well where like things might be going wrong in other aspects of my life but like as
soon as i'm in the gym i'm i'm laser focused on like achieving certain goals you know what i mean
pushing a certain weight week over week uh and and that is also therapeutic as well where it's like other things might be
going wrong but at least i still have this where i i have some level of control yeah and there are
moments where and i was talking to you about this as well we're like i'm dieting so well but i'm
still not my body is like in protection mode and it's like still holding on to the fucking weight
no matter what like right um and there are setbacks like
that where you just feel like you're crazy it's like these things that used to work for me are
no longer working what the fuck's going on what do i have to change but ultimately i just push
through it and you know you get the results inevitably and that is um that is something
that that gives you a lot of confidence that you can you can bring over to other aspects of your
life that's why i really
love it and appreciate it um even though i do understand like i've mentioned over and over again
that like if you're poor like not everyone has access to a fucking gym immediately you know what
i mean not everyone has access unfortunately i wish they did um and you know not everyone has
the free time if you're like so fucking stuck in poverty that like you're literally taking care of
your parents and you're working and then you have, you don't have enough time to like work
out on top of that.
It's just like, um, there's always, there's always a way that you can like restructure
your life in a way that you can, you know, figure it out.
I guess there's resources available.
Dude, even if you just can do like pushups and pull-ups yeah that's a solid
workout for the most part all you could do put a fucking body all you need is like a yeah body
weight squats i mean you could hold some random shit but put a bar in a doorway and do fucking
pull-ups and push-ups back to back and you can get a great workout yeah like as far as for that
mental aspect of it maybe if you're not trying to like sorry if you're trying to be like some
bodybuilder that might not be the most sufficient way no of course but like for the mental aspect like just the 30 minutes like non-stop routine like that
mental clarity that you're gonna get from that is gonna be crazy it's interesting i think about it
now i couldn't do a single push-up when i was younger i was so fat and like what i started
doing and this is so weird i i hadn't ever i don't think i've ever talked about this what i started doing is when i was watching tv i would like try to stay in push-up position for the duration of a commercial
i know that like some other celebrities like i think talked about like doing push-ups during
commercials and shit was oh my god it might be literally herschel walker actually i think
a lot in common yeah me and herschel, dude, we agree on the same political issues.
But yeah, that's like, I didn't hear it from him,
but it's just like one way that I was trying to like
produce results in my life that are tangible,
that I can like immediately see was like,
I would just like sit in pushup position,
like shaking for like a minute.
You want to hear some of my psychopathic tendencies? you're sharing yours yeah um it's not a psychopath
the ones that i'm about to share okay let's hear it um i remember in uh college when i was 18 i
lived in sacramento state and uh i was so crazy into what I was doing, like training wise.
And I was actually not as well versed in nutrition and diet and all this stuff as I am now, obviously.
And as I was after this point, which I'll explain.
Sorry, we did footsies on it.
We just, we just, we just touched it.
That was kind of dope.
That was dope.
But so I, like what you said, the plank position thing, I would, once I started getting abs,
I would never not flex my abs i'm
talking about to the point this is no no no no i know what you're talking about now i'm talking
about i would try to go to sleep with my abs flexed that's awesome bro it was the most ocd
it's crazy like i would sit in class no matter what i'm like my abs are tight it was so bad dude
like the reason why i want to
share this story is because i got to the point is it bad though i feel like you're bracing your
core all the time oh but you probably no it was up your no no no not the physical act of it but
not the i the mentality behind this whole need for this was a was a very negative one because
not that that was bad um but i got to the point like at that point in my life at 18 years
old my dick stopped working completely because i was dieting so hard and doing so much activity
and this overworking like crazy overwork you know we're talking early about this like yeah
i did that to a degree where you can do that if you
yeah crazy because top nutrients me and touch it okay i think it might be the noise gate too man
it's not it's just like we gotta get a new cable sucks it up okay we'll get a new but we're good
now so 18 dick stops working yeah yeah i'm non-stop like like training and i was completely
uh under eating like massively under eating and it was but it was so ocd where it was like at every point of the day if i put something in my mouth i was eating you're
burning it off i was like going to the bathroom doing push-ups till i'm sweating i'm like i'd go
back to my dorm and i'd do curls till like i couldn't curl anymore i do push-ups so i couldn't
do push-ups anymore jesus christ it was such a problem that i'm literally laying in bed trying
to go to sleep and i'm laying in bed trying to go to sleep and i'm like i'm like laying down flat like with my abs tense
until like and i'm like staying up all night like i'm not getting sleep i get to the point where
like i'm waking up like every 15 minutes peeing because my body's like what i understand now
doing the research after is like slowly eating itself like breaking down like the protein of
my muscle to like create enough energy to
sustain my body because i was so under eating that i'm like pissing every like 15 minutes at night
this is a real problem you're burning like 4 000 5 000 calories just because you're constantly
active but not just that not just that but also you don't have enough food in it so you can't
sustain it so it's like eating away at the muscle that you bro yeah listen exactly that but i would also i would ride a bike like a bmx bike 45 minutes to a gym do 45 minutes
on a fucking elliptical train for an hour okay you're ride the bike back what do you think you
were burning bro i had i mean i was literally killing myself that's what i think about like
my dick stopped working where i was like i was like like michael phelps you know how like people talk about michael phelps like when he's training
for olympic you know swimming he was eating like his burn rate was like 8 000 calories a day like
i assume that's what you're i was killing myself yeah legit like and i was i remember like my fate
my i remember people were like yo are you good i was like i'm great because i have abs you know
like my my it was delusional. It was like some shit.
I really went through some shit that was like, not like that was not a healthy time in my
life.
But the cool thing about it was as soon as my dick stopped working and about six months
go by and I'm like, like literally I'd have a girl over and it'd be just like, I'd be
like, what the fuck is, and I did, this is all new to me.
I'm 18.
I'm like, oh, I need to fix this.
So I went to my, my doctor and he tries to give me like, he's like, try this like Viagra, like Cialis shit. I'm like, oh, I need to fix this. So I went to my doctor and he tries to give me like,
he's like, try this like Viagra, like Cialis shit.
I'm like, 18?
Exactly, right?
The fuck?
Exactly.
That is another component of like,
that is something I fucking despise.
We can talk about that in a second.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me finish this.
So anyways, I didn't take it.
I was just like, he's like,
but you should probably eat more.
And that was the thing.
It was like, and I was like, okay.
So I start eating more and I start,
the thing that I did, I was like, okay,
why is my dick not working? And I started learning about
hormones. And then I start reading all this stuff about diet and nutrition and how it affects your
hormones and how it's synthesized in the body and how all this stuff is so closely related to what
you eat. But that's when I learned so much and became really enamored with the actual science
behind what happens in the body. And that's when I started to learn about it. And then it took me
about seven to eight months. Cause like I started eating again. And then my dick finally started working like maybe three months. And then I got
kind of like little pudgy, little fatter. Cause like my body had a pretty much drastic yo-yo.
And then I kind of like balanced it out. So it took maybe like a year and a half to feel like
normal again. But this was a life changing part of my life. Yeah. I'm telling you your self-help
book it's titled. Okay. why is my dick not working it was
tough one thing that you mentioned there your doctor's immediate solution is like 18 years old
that's not i hate that because like that is how that is literally i'm sorry to say this but a
product of a byproduct of capitalism we're like because our medical system is so reliant on
constantly fucking driving profit when medicine is not supposed to be for profit.
And it usually isn't anywhere else around the world.
You know what I mean?
It's like they have socialized system in place for a fucking reason.
But in America, that shit is like super on overdrive.
That's why we pay 10 times more for like insulin and shit.
You know what I mean?
Than any other goddamn country but like it's
one of the things that has also created the opioid crisis that like our our our doctors are trained
to basically sell you product right prescribe prescribe prescribe whereas like pain management
is such a complicated thing that should factor physical therapy in it.
It has to have physical therapy.
Like when you injure yourself, and this happens to me sometimes, like I'm in the gym.
I injure myself.
I go to the doctor.
Doctor's like, all right, put you on ibuprofen at least.
I'm like, I don't want that.
I want fucking, I need physical therapy. Like, I need physical therapy so I can, like, fix the issue
rather than fucking, like, just dull the pain.
Because the pain is there because of a muscular imbalance
or the pain is there because of, like, something I'm doing physically
that's wrong, right?
Like, I have maybe overdeveloped, like, I have gamer neck.
I'm sure you see this all the time. Everyone, most people now have this because they're, like, sitting like this all day, right? Or they're like this on gamer neck. I'm sure you see this all the time.
Everyone,
most people now have this
because they're like sitting like this all day,
right?
Or they're like this on the phone.
Yeah.
So you have,
you have like overdeveloped,
you know,
front delts and overdeveloped,
your traps are overdeveloped.
Yeah.
But then you're like back is underdeveloped.
So you have no scap muscles.
Yep.
And you have to work that.
You have to make sure that there's some balance there because all muscles work like fucking this.
And if you're only working on this and this one is like constantly stretching, the moment that you have to activate it, the moment that you have to activate the other side, you injure yourself.
Yeah.
And like people don't think about it like that and immediately just go just dull the pain.
There's no issue with like, you know, if you have chronic pain or whatever obviously you know this
is really important i'm not like an anti-medicine guy at all but there are certain physical ailments
that absolutely require physical therapy but because that's like super complicated and super
expensive and and not as profitable those do not include 18 year old impotence
no no that's but no but it's the same it's the same mentality of like instead of having a more
holistic approach to your health because the body is like a very complex thing right instead of
looking at like all the other things that you are genuinely doing wrong hugely do immediately
they're like all right how do we solve the problem your dick's not working here's viagra that's insane no it isn't saying i fucking hate that
and there's also so many other things you could do like as far as like we talk about like um
talking about uh ibuprofen and all this type shit like there's so many other things you could do
that are just like more natural remedies and there's other supplements that are actually
really beneficial for the rest of your body that help reduce inflammation that you could also just
take turmeric baswellia serrata there's all these different things that lower information in the
body that people just like they just rather give you a pill that is actually slightly liver toxic
and these other things are not at all and it's just like it's just create blood thinning it does
all these other things in the body that is not necessary to fix the problem that like you're
saying is more largely dependent on like fixing your fucking posture yeah it's like but it's like we're not no that's the thing like but if you don't because
if you don't do that if you don't fix your posture if you don't actually figure out where the fucking
issue is and then work to like the you know work against your muscular imbalances and like you know
fix the problem you're gonna run into the same problem again yeah and then you're gonna need to
dull the pain again and it doesn't matter because you didn't you didn't fix the problem, you're going to run into the same problem again. Yeah. And then you're going to need to dull the pain again.
And it doesn't matter because you didn't,
you didn't fix anything.
You just.
Yeah.
No medication.
And this is why I keep talking about this whole thing about self and all
these problems we have in the world,
et cetera.
It's like at the end of the day,
it is us having to fucking deal with the situation and the circumstances
and trying to learn about ourselves in relationship to them.
Like,
what do we actually need to fix?
It's like a lot of times,
like all we can really do is something that's from us because we we can't obviously
we want to affect change right and i know that's important for you but like at the same time in
order to do that we have to be well suited to do that we have to be willing to do that within
ourselves first yeah um i gotta piss real quick yeah that's fine i was just about to say on that
on that note yeah let's uh you know
where can people find you we're going to move on to the paywalled portion of the broadcast
where we're going to be looking at gym talks and stuff as well and uh talk about uh some some more
uh you know issues surrounding the self and mind and uh improvement where can people find you
bradley uh instagram at bradley martin bradley martin with a y i'm on youtube you could just
probably have like four channels raw talk if you guys like the podcast
i'd appreciate everyone to go subscribe that's actually the most fun i i have making content
is this kind of content so raw talk is my podcast i'm at zoo culture at encino every day it's on
ventura boulevard um yeah stop by literally i'm there around 11 o'clock come say hi all right
perfect all right we'll see you on the other side, everybody.
Patreon.com slash fear and.
Not live.
Oh, shit, it's lit.
You did a good job.
Thank you.
That was awesome.
Even if we're talking about the idea of being alpha male versus non-alpha male
and, like, talking about or saying I have this or showing I have that.
Are you an alpha male?
Do you consider yourself that?
I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck it means, but I am a very secure person.
Okay.
So I'm a confident person.
I'm confident in my ability to achieve goals that I set out for myself.
That sounds alpha.
And I feel like I've accomplished enough in my life that my accomplishments speak for themselves.
I don't have to constantly fucking, you know, be i'm the best i'm the best i'm the brightest okay
so on that point right you sound like an alpha male to me and you said you don't have to speak
about your things there is a there is another thing here though that's at play which is like
the need to also speak about other people's things right the need to say he's not alpha
because of these reasons is also indicative of someone
who's not. And if we're just talking about being alpha, it's just, it is what it is.
Like, I think there's certain things like, you know, you're welcome to criticize anyone for
whatever you want, obviously, because that's the internet and it's the world we live in.
But there are also ways to look at it where it's like, is it also necessary to say so-and-so's
this or so-and-so's that because they're doing these things that I don't necessarily
agree with or would do myself.