Fear& - Ending Homophobia w/ Hasan, Ludwig and AustinShow (Warning: Emotional).. | Fear&Queer Baiting

Episode Date: August 8, 2022

Hasan Piker (Outspoken LGBTQIA+ Foe) sits down with Austin Show (Gay) and Ludwig Ahgren (Questioning) to squash the beef and get to the root of what's really going on here. No Will this week unfortunately. Hasan got insecure about how hard Will's tiktok is blowing up and cut him from the podcast. I'm worried I might be next..  Anyway topics for today's episode include, irl streaming, lying to the federal government, c&bt, youtube pranksters.🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS - https://linktr.ee/fearand🐥follow our guests!🐤Ludwig: https://twitter.com/LudwigAhgrenAustin: https://twitter.com/AustinOnTwitter🐤follow the boys!🐥Fear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPodHasan: https://twitter.com/HasanthehunWill: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeffMarche: https://twitter.com/MarchePatreon: https://www.patreon.com/fearand Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You already did it on this cam. And then one here. So that should be really easy to sync. You're going to love that. Hey. Okay. All right, folks. Episode three of Fear and Molding is live and alive we're here we're queer

yes we are that's right this is a sexy queer baiting episode that's right i love to queer bait i i saw how well will's tiktok was doing after he posted a bunch of the episodes like the previous episodes tiktoks and i was like get the fuck out of here you're cut yeah he cut me and he brought me in in an effort to gay bait punish will queer bait and also mend his broken relationship with the lgbtq community he has brought me in um and i think it's working your agenda is working do you think there's more people online that assume i'm gay than believe you are gay? You are the straightest person I know. Nobody's ever thought that, ever.

Yeah. There is nobody on this planet. You are the straightest person I have ever met. I think, first of all, I take offense to that. Why? It's very offensive to me. I have very homosexual tendencies. I will see Alex Jones at the Abbey before you.

No, I've been to the Abbey many times. I used to go to the Abbey all the time. If there was a poll and it was two options, it said would Hassan, is he more likely to be gay or commit a hate crime? Commit a hate crime would win 99%.

I agree. What is happening right now? Why would that be the poll? I don't know why, but it's... Why is that a poll? That's how straight you are. How about the poll is, is Hasan more likely to be gay or be very cool and nice? And then the very cool and nice one wins.

So being gay can't be cool and nice. No, you can be gay and cool and nice, but this is like... No, man, it frees up. I'm with you. Yeah, hell yeah. Face Saudi Arabia. Anyway, welcome to fear and we have your guest today ludwig that's right pod yep finally he made it we were supposed to record this

last night and then you know you were like it was busy yeah i know i was doing big things yeah we had to get him a private driver right now leak what you're doing right now when does this come out uh tomorrow god i'm not leaking it. No shot. I was working with Jay Schlatt. And we're going to... Yes, he's lying. We'll bleep this part out if you don't want it to be.

He was filming in orchestra. Why are you saying it like you know? I don't know. Orchestra. I feel like that's the... I feel like that... First of all, you say orchestra in Turkish, but... Right.

I feel like it's one of those words okay and by the way we bleep the previous part so what we're talking about currently is completely unrelated to like what this is fine you can say orchestra okay you don't have to bleep it but one of those things it's it's one of those words where i feel like it's like uh it's like a quality word you know what i mean so you have to put like almost british spin to it like like you know how british people say like aluminium instead of aluminum sure orchestra is is like one of those words where i feel like you're supposed to say orchestra so you think there are words you should say with a british accent not a british accent but like that is what you're saying like like

the difference between adult and adult oh right you get what i'm talking orchestra is always correct orchestra unlike adults but then what are you going to be a potato andy you're going to say potato no of course not because potato is is the tomato this is the commodity of the proletariat so i am not interested in like you know ruining that but like the orchestra is something that you know like all these like highfalutin hoity-toity rich people engage in i can't one believe that you thought we were gonna run out of topics none of this is yeah we're just freestyling and twoling. And two, it's not a high class thing anymore. You know what I'm going to in like two weeks?

I'm going to a Joe Hisayishi concert. What is that? He's the composer of all the Ghibli movies. Oh, okay. That's cool. Thanks for the invite, by the way. This is how I find out. New York.

He's going five days in New York and I'm going to one of the nights. You're going specifically to go to that in New York for one night, just to watch this and maybe hang out with Tarek. If we'll hang out with me. That's. Are you going with Jay Schlatt? No. Well,

I think, no, just me. Okay. I've got a story to tell you, please. This is the, this is the queer podcast.

So go ahead. The story is you were with Jay Schlatt. I didn't know Jay Schlatt was in town. He was in town just for this thing we did together. Yes, I know. Yeah. So I,

Hassan drops me off at my hotel at like one o'clock in the morning. And after we had sex, gay sex. Yeah. In the back of his, by the way, straightest way to say that. No, we have lots of gay sex. Gay sex. Yeah. In the back of his... By the way, straightest way to say that. No. It's not.

We have a bunch of gay sex. No, we just... We did butt stuff. No, no. Here's the thing. For gay people, it's just called sex. And that's what you don't think about. No, it's still called...

Actually, let me be honest. We still call it gay sex. Really? Yeah. You don't say, I'm having sex? You have to clarify? We do clarify because... If you're hooking up with someone and you were like, oh, let's go back to mine.

He's like, are we having gay sex tonight? Yeah. Or regular sex. Or else you don't get consent. So if you say if we're having sex tonight, he'd be like, what is that? Yeah. He would be like, what? Is there a girl back there?

They'd be like, what am I, a breeder? Yeah, exactly. See, breeder you know yeah exactly the more you know you don't know this because i'm a real ally you're not you're fake i've never been an ally of anything you are literally a homophobe i'm an only an ally to me i've always been that way so i agree uh same continue so in the lobby i walk in jay schlatt is in the fucking lobby checking into the same hotel that I'm staying at. SLS. Yeah.

And guess what? I have single-handedly built the clientele for the SLS. You actually have. Every time you come, you book people there if you're doing an event. And then they love it so much, they try something else, they always come back.

Yeah, always. Schlatt, so we went to Boa Steakhouse. I didn't know it was a fancy steakhouse. I thought it was a Brazilian steakhouse i thought it was a brazilian steakhouse chain uh because this because it sounds like brazilian like boa yeah hey welcome to boa is that your brazilian i don't know why are you italian it's like it's like well it's portuguese it's like come to brazil so like welcome to boa portuguese yeah but then every time i do the brazilian accent it turns into like i'm doing the cholo accent everyone always makes fun of me like i was just gonna say that brazil

we won't be mad so we went to boa yeah fancy steakhouse i didn't thanks for the invite by the way yeah no seriously what the fuck this guy flexing yeah hangs out with jay schlatt flexing goes to boa doesn't invite two gay men i don't know if you guys hang out with Jay Schlatt. Flexing. Goes to Boa. Doesn't invite two gay men. I don't know if you guys hang out with Schlatt a lot offline. He's just a guy who likes routine. He's obsessed with routine. He likes sleeping in his bed. He likes going to his restaurants.

And Boa is one of his restaurants. So he's like a book to said Boa. I was like, cool. I didn't realize it's a fancy steakhouse. There's a dress code. I showed up in these pants. I haven't changed pants since last night. I only took off my underwear.

I'm commando right now. Wait, really? Yeah. A fanny pack in a shirt that said commit tax fraud with Barney. I love that shirt. It's a great shirt. It's a great shirt,

but it doesn't fly. A lot of people at Boa would probably look at that and go, that's a great shirt. I'm doing that. They didn't like that. No, because then Nick also showed up in flip-flops. He had shorts on, but he swapped to Jay Schlatt's sweatpants.

And the valet. Even before we get to the balance of the valet, it was like... Another word, valet. Nobody says valet. Yes, people say in the... People that don't speak English say valet. No, like a valet. You are somehow going from high society all the way to uneducated i promise you reach the sides british pronunciation they don't say valid yes they do i'm i don't know if i know a british

person to call off rip yeah well there is a there is there is some words though that do have that yeah in a valid no not valid but like they they like don't they don't do the A. Pull that shit up, Marsh. Pull it up. What do you want Marsh to look up right now? British pronunciation of valet. Okay, I'm down for this. Valet in a British accent. If you are wrong, can you on the pod say Ludwig is smarter and more handsome than me in the camera?

I can't lie like that. You have to say it as a... It's just straight up a lie. You have to say it if you're wrong. It's just the... And I'll say the same if you i'm you're right but then it's the truth man up also no you know what we're gonna do we're gonna do rock paper scissors no no no hey you guys so anyway go ahead you want to say something to the camera no i don't you got you got something to say i don't want to say anything camera i okay well i was gonna hate you god damn you were right

what the fuck i hate when he's right i cannot believe i feel like you guys forget that like it's the first time i know things he doesn't know anything i think i say like I'm a himbo too much or, like, fuck around too much off camera. You guys are like, no, it sounds stupid, right? Like. How would he know this? He's the worst winner. He's the worst winner. Oh, dude, I know.

Because I don't really get it a lot. Him and Jordan. I don't really get it a lot. Oh, you don't get it a lot. No, I don't get it a lot. Osawa doesn't get it a lot. No, that's true. Yeah, that's the meme.

I always remember that. Hass mods. He never gets it. lot. No, I don't get it a lot. Osawa doesn't get it a lot. No, it's true. Yeah, that's the meme. I always remember that. Hass mods, he never gets it. Yeah, no, but like... But that's different. Women throw themselves at him. But that doesn't count. It's like, that's irrelevant. It doesn't count when women

throw themselves at him. No, it doesn't because it's irrelevant. Those are fimoids. Yeah, exactly. Top G podcast. That's right. We're here.

We're talking about broads. Beaches. Dude, actually, that's the topic that I wanted to talk to you guys both about. Boa Steakhouse. Go ahead. We almost get kicked out because the bouncer is like, you look terrible. He really takes in us.

He was like, you know this is a nice steakhouse. And then Schlatt pulls out a sick card. He shouts out some guy who works there. He's like, ask Steve about it. out some guy who works there he's like ask Steve about it oh and the guy's like the guy was like he didn't believe he's like you know Steve you don't know Steve and then and then Steve fucking walks out and then we get escorted in it I felt really cool anyway so that's badass it was a swag moment that is such a swag moment it was pretty cool reminds me of uh never mind I tell that story. It'd make me look bad.

When you called Marriott. Cause you think it was, it was in that vein. Moving on. Let's let's talk about your Karen moments, by the way. I don't think you have to be shy about them. No,

I don't like it. Sure. They go too far, but they make me. Have you seen me? Have you seen me have a Karen moment? Every waking moment with you is a Karen moment. Oh, that's not true.

He's so mad at you. You came in and you're like, oh, my God, I didn't order toast. Minx! I don't know. I don't just yell Minx's name. No, you're like, oh, I forgot to order toast. You have toast in your house, and then you're like, I need jam. Well, I mean, that's a normal question.

You have butter, jam, toast. I'm like, bro. Well, I mean, isn't that a normal question to ask? Also, I had a normal question. You have butter, jam, toast. I'm like, bro. Well, I mean, isn't that a normal question to ask? Also, I had a delicious breakfast. Exactly. I did have all of it. Toast with butter and jam? Yeah, I needed some carbs.

You know what you want, and you get it. Exactly. And I respect that about you. This is what I think. When you pay for something, you deserve to get what you pay for. Austin, the other night, it took you an hour and a half of convincing to post a sexy photo of yourself which you literally did not even want to post on your twitter account you were like should i post it on my main it's not good enough for the main maybe i

should post it on my alt and then finally you were convinced to post it on your instagram story one of my fans auntie piker posted your instagram story on Twitter and was like ooh how did that get here on Twitter and then you posted it on your alt with the caption I told you to post it and now it's popping off

it literally is doing but like none of it it's doing it's doing better it's doing better than my trailer for Name Your Price

because well yeah obviously because I told you the funny caption obviously because my trailers always do bad well I mean it did okay

it got like 30 some thousand yeah I mean that's good but like trailers are never gonna do as well as like something more intimate and basically did you see it that way you didn't like it i haven't seen it i've not seen it i did see this but you didn't like it you didn't like it no i didn't like it that's really messed up let's talk about it loved it. So what I do is I like it and then I like it twice, which actually unlikes it. That's me loving it. That's really good. I'm in the process of having Hassan convince me to post some other naughty photos, but

they're a little too naughty and risky. But he's like, we don't have to do a hostage negotiation every time you want to post a photo. Well, no. Let's dig into this. He has seen most of my cock. This is a different conversation, so we're going to loop back for a moment. No, it's relevant to the photo.

Okay. You want to see it? I wouldn't mind. Live reaction to Austin's cock. It's not like my actual cock, but there's definitely cock in there. Have you seen? You've probably seen my old look. If you've...

No! For those of you listening, for those of you watching at home great photos a great photo you need you need to edit you need to go i was gonna do that no matter what you showed me you could have showed me a 20 inch penis wrapped around his neck and i would have gone well there's no cock in the photo no there isn't it's like it's similar to old photos of myself where i have a towel where you can see the outline that's it that's what that's how i found out those of you yeah for those thirst Thirst traps. That's how we found out I what? You had a big hog.

You didn't tell from his 6'8 stature and truck-sized body? Believe me, I've looked at a lot of penises and, you know, just because you're tall doesn't mean that you've got a big dick. Fellas, can I tell you something?

Yeah. Sometimes women like really small cocks. Not true. Is that what Cutie tells you? What? No, she told me this is real. Yeah, no. For sure, there's a lot of women like this a lot.

Yeah. And coming really fast. Yes. That's what I've heard, too. Wait, are you memeing? Yeah. Yes, I'm memeing. Oh.

I'm going to meet in the middle with you. Nobody likes very small penises, but I think average penises are much more popular than big ones um ask yourself this when you go to mcdonald's or starbucks do you prefer to get a taller grande or a venti or a trenta i would never get a trenta that's way too much yep me too same thing i'm the trenta guy you get trentas i didn't even what he's a he's a size queen he is a size queen he just likes you know hasan did or maybe i'm just a big person and i need more space and i need larger things no he likes big cock how about how about how about we accommodate society to to my needs for once you know what i mean small people get away with so much oh like what uh being able to hide okay in most spaces what that is they get away with

this yeah like it's a crime they shouldn't be no i'm just saying like society accommodates public transport especially accommodates for um shorter people short kings rise up it's great uh am i a short king no yeah are you five nine you 5'9"? 5'9". Then you're average. Okay, cool. A little under, but just about. Are you? How old's all you?

I'm 6'1". 6'2", actually. He's nice. Just straight up. It's fine. I'll show you my idea. I'll show you my idea. You lie to the federal government.

Wait, if you show me. Look, we've had this conversation. You lie to the federal government. Why would I lie to a federal government that can control every aspect of my life you have been lying to my id says for a very long time my id says five seven but that's because i got my id when i was like 16 and i've grown since why is oregon allowing you to keep your id from when you got it at 16 oh no wait i got a new one recently i forgot did you not change your height on it i think i did i'll have to put the shades on because now people won't know who you are after

we outed you as a person who commits federal government lies i guess like i don't know if it's a perjury well i don't know what the legal term listen to me i'm joan lennon listen up lib cook i got something i got a little bone to pick with you all right let's hear it pick the bones you are sometimes a caricature of a machismo man you know that about yourself i mean i don't know about like like if you think of what is you know a masculine character you fill the role too well sometimes why what do i do i went to the to the party like a couple nights ago that you were at and we went to the bar to get a drink i don't know if you know about this and i was like uh because he never drinks when he goes to parties right hasan's usually

pretty fucking lame he shows up he's like i'm not drinking he eats three nicotine gums he leaves within like 45 minutes and he's like i'll go to stream in the morning for this too it's definitely true that's the hassan classic and so i bullied him before this event why'd you give me the gayest glasses what do you mean these are way gay like not the no those are those are like those are my my like well they're carl lagerfeld but those are actually they look like i got these at a gas station for four bucks. Yeah. I got this in my PO box, but. I can't see shit. They're dark. Anyway.

So I bully Hassan into getting drinks with me. So we walk up to the bar and Hassan's in front. And so he's ordering. I'm like, just order me whatever you're getting. And he does. And I quote, he does this. He goes, you, you, you don't want what I'm having. I just like his drink is so out there that i couldn't even handle it it's not out there but it's like it's it's an adult beverage and so i'm like i'm

like and you're not i think i could probably swing what you're drinking and then he says this like wore me off he goes it's whiskey like that's a like that's a like a huge flag no but it's like i drink a good amount of whiskey you just you strike me as a cocktail guy and i was being accommodating that's fair i wanted the way you come off as accommodating was was a little douchey because then you followed up no i think you followed up and i said i like whiskey and you went i drink it neat and you said that like you had done checkmate in chess like i was no i was gonna melt into a puddle of soy limb no i just didn't want you to know i i just did not want you to not appreciate the the short moment that we were gonna live together you know what i mean that's why i wanted

to make sure that you were maximizing on the do i take you as a cocktail guy i don't drink cocktails no do i take you as a cocktail what do i what am i oh dude yes are you kidding me literally like uh you don't i know you don't drink but when you do you're getting like in my mind in my mind you would be getting straight up the most like the gayest beverage in my mind it's not the gayest it's what is the least calories like a vodka soda or like a like a like a gin soda i can see that that's fair also very gay yes do you care about calories what are you a woman um we have gone from gay baiting to gay bashing straight to misogyny yes yes um in any In any case, what was I going to say?

Oh, yeah. You have not explored the depths, I think, of like cocktail beverage. I'm just going to say it. What? I think alcohol tastes like fucking shit no matter what. There's a part of the story that actually undermines Ludwig's overarching narrative of like how I was being a douche and not accommodating, which is that he told me he trains himself to drink whiskey. And I thought, that's insane.

What are you, like 12? There is intrinsic tastes that every human can enjoy. Salty, savory dishes, very sweet dishes. And then there are things that you have to train to enjoy. Things like caffeine, localized dishes like foie gras in France. And alcohol is one of those things that you have to intrinsically work to. I don't think I'll ever acquire the taste for it. It is definitely an acquired taste, but it's just funny that you're like, it's also poison. So it's funny that you're like, you told me that you drink like a little sippy sip of whiskey every night and you used to put maple syrup in it and then

you like slowly but surely diminish the amount of like maple you're wording it like i didn't do this scientifically and very five-headedly what i do is i would have one shot on the rocks and then i would put a little maple syrup in and then i would lower the amount of maple syrup, so eventually I was just drinking the whiskey by itself. Why didn't you just shoot it? Because then the idea is to learn to enjoy the taste, not to just put the alcohol down. I would only have one glass a night. Or you could have done it the old-fashioned way,

like struggle with alcohol addiction. That's lame. That's what my dad did, and he's dead. Way to bring it up. Your dad's dead? You don't know this? No. I feel like I talk about it all the time. God damn. did and he's dead. Way to bring it up. Your dad's dead? You don't know this? No. I feel like I talk about it all the time. God damn. No, he's dead.

It was a long time ago, right? Yeah. So it doesn't matter. It's one of those 17 year ones. Statute of limitations is up. Legally about it. At what point do you stop feeling bad about that? About your dad being dead? You want to dive into this one?

This is a good topic. Let's move on. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not the one that brought it up. I'm not the one that brought it up. I'm not the one that brought it up. I'm not the one that brought it up. I'm not the one that brought it up. I'm not the one that brought it up.

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I'm not the one that brought it up. I'm not the one that brought it up. I'm so sorry. Well, no, this is Austin's sweet side. Austin is very considerate about how other people feel. Yeah. But you don't have to worry about my feelings ever. No.

Okay, you should worry about them more. I will never. You are the opposite. I will never. You don't worry about other people's feelings enough. No, I will never worry about your feelings. Anyway, the conclusion of the story is that I got the whiskey. It was like bottom shelf Japanese whiskey. Oh, yeah he you shat on it in front of the guy you're the whiskey guy and you went for centauri toki like it's the best it's the best one that they had there there wasn't any

there was also johnny walker they had theirs bottom shelf japanese whiskey for the bar that we were at that was the best of the top shelf that they had they had that and next to that they had johnny walker blue label but john Johnny Walker Blue Label is not... Better than Satoru Toki. It's supposed to be. It's more expensive. But it's a matter of taste at that point. It's a matter of preference.

And I'm not super fancy with it. I drink Black Label. I like Black Label. That's fine. It's very smooth. But Blue Label is like... It's just more the price point is for the brand itself. Hassan, the type of dude to see you at a steak restaurant and scoff if it's not rare.

No, but medium rare for sure. If someone ordered medium, would you be like, I would judge you a little bit. I order my steaks medium. Yeah. And breakfast steaks, medium well. What is a breakfast steak?

Like if you do steak and eggs. I do medium well in the breakfast steaks because typically breakfast restaurants don't specialize in steak. That's right. So I get to cook more. I like that. Just don't eat the steak there, though.

No, I like steak. He wants meat. Yeah, sometimes I need a little red meat. That is wild. So he can't eat meat in the morning now. Yeah. Nissan's world. Or just go to a restaurant that has good steak.

Oh, I'm sorry. Not all of us can afford to eat at five-star steak restaurants. Just go to Boa at 9 a.m. next time. You literally refuse to stay with me and stay at a hotel every time you're here because you're racking up points for an inevitable vacation that is never going to happen. You already have enough money to buy off that vacation ten times over. Are you a point churner? I love point ch he does it's fun like i i feel pain when i have to use points because i'm like oh he's doing it like like it's a it's like end game i've got half a million

your inventory is stacked no his inventory is stacked he's never gonna use it he already completed the game no it's like five k is it yeah oh it's like one cent per last night you said it was like around 100k you are you were were you high there's no way i said that hundred thousand dollars were the points you know how many or no maybe you said ten thousand dollars yeah ten five to ten thousand sure big range yeah huge range and then don't even get me started on the delta miles you love your delta miles so that's what like i don't have any i don't even have credit card i don't have any of that i really need to start racking i need to start racking them up so you want to join so you're making fun of me and then you want to join in i just like i think that there's a lot that i'm missing out on i just need like a i need a credit card with like a

concierge service because like uh because i want to be able to like when i have friends over or whatever i hate the the hassle of like trying to trying to figure out, like, where will we go? And will I be able to get a reservation there? You hate the hassle of being a good host. No, I love being a good host. No, you don't. No, I do. I showed up here and you didn't give me a water.

And then you made fun of me because the only cup I found said Twitch on it. And you went, oh, gee, what the Twitch cop? And he orders breakfast for me, but not Ludwig. Yeah. No, you order breakfast for yourself. But then did you jump on his order? No. Oh, I told him to get coffee for me and Marsh.

I thought that you would want to come in immediately, film, and then get out. Hasan, you can just admit you're not the greatest host. And he's not as good of a driver as me. I'm Turkish. I take offense to that 100%. I'm a great host is that like a turkish thing is coming over to hasan's house i'm a good host is hours of being berated about wearing your shoes inside yeah okay well don't wear your shoes inside what do you mean

how is that so hard look that's why you have hardwood floors that's all i'm saying do you think the hardwood floors are clean yeah there are If I look at it right now, is it clean? Yeah, 100%. Hassan has a flaw. Well, maybe not in this because there's a lot of foot traffic here. Hassan has, oof. Did you just smell the dust? Jesus. And it's bad.

It's rank. What? No, it's not. And I'm not going to be goaded into doing it. I know your ways. It's rank. Yeah. Hassan will not

let me wear shoes in the house but he has like a bug infestation no there's because my mom is staying with me right now and god bless her heart she loves like i guess this is also a very good thing or a mom thing i don't know she loves opening every window in the house and you know letting the beautiful sunny air in i guess i don't know because it's like you know california and and then also she uh will eat it like like a lot of fruits and stuff and like she'll leave it out on the counter and i'm like mom please i'm very particular about being clean i'm like mom please put the fruit it like in the fridge or something wherever you put fruit i don't know i don't eat fruit but like please there's so many bugs and and also please close the doors and pump the ac she turns off the ac

every time she's cold and she turns off she she opens all the windows that's an all-person thing they don't like ac yeah and and honestly that's part of the reason why there's like a lot of flies now um hassan you you don't like that i go stay at the hotel but i don't think you can handle living with me true i would probably kill you yeah like there's no way no it'd be fine it'd be fun it'd be fun you think so it'd be fun the first time but then if he like he comes a lot no i mean it doesn't matter like i i i love dude that's what i was saying that's why i'm taking offense to what you were saying i love uh hosting my friends. I love that. And friends and family. It sounds good.

I have friends that come in and stay with me for weeks. You know what I mean? All the time. Can we dive into why you don't eat fruit? Sure. What is that? I just don't like it. Yeah, but you drink neat whiskey and you can't eat a fucking strawberry?

No, I mean, I just don't like the taste of it. But it's sugar. Sweet and delicious. Yeah. I've never found myself being, I need that fruit. But you think to yourself, I need a Coke Zero? Yeah, I love that. That's crazy.

Not Coke Zero, Diet Coke. It's much better. Diet Coke sucks. I'm a DC boy. You know the story, Diet Coke's not real Coke. It's much better. Diet Coke sucks. I'm a DC boy. You know the story. Diet Coke's not real Coke. Sorry, what? The reason Diet Coke and Coke Zero both exist is because they tried to make Coke without calories,

but they couldn't do it with the same formula, so they made a different formula. That's Diet Coke. Yeah, it's better. So it tastes different than regular Coke. Yeah, no, it's fine. It's better, though. Coke-O-Lite is the best, I think. No, I hate it. Coke Zero tastes like Coke. I's fine. It's better, though. Coca-Lite is the best, I think. No, I hate it.

Really? I hate it. I grow up with Coca-Cola Lite. I love Coca-Lite. No, it's awful. I don't drink soda. I grew up with it in Turkey. I don't either.

And the sweetener used in it, because, okay, the main difference is just the sweetener. Aspartame, I believe, in Coca-Cola Lite. I don't know what they're using in Diet Coke, but... Sorry, cutie um but basically diet coke i think tastes better than regular coke i've i guess it's an acquired taste but because i drank it so much i don't even like regular coke when i drink regular coke every now and then it's like way too sweet what What about a Kiwi? A fresh, juicy mango. The only fruit that does it for me every now and then is a pineapple. I do like pineapples.

Are you allergic? If you eat a lot, do you get the roof of your mouth? Wait, that's allergies? Yeah. Like some people handle the, like most people are allergic to that, but like some people handle it really well and they can just down like three pineapples and they'll get no like acidity bumps on the roof of their mouth i 100 get acidity bumps i know i don't get acid actually i get acidity bumps from most fruit really maybe that's the reason why i don't like fruit could be your mouth just might not handle the enzymes well

yeah i don't get the city bumps on my if you eat like a shit ton of pineapple you don't get like the roof of your mouth like a little bumpier, like a little smoother. I know. It's like a slightly inflamed your gums. Maybe. You've never felt that? Most of the time I eat pineapple

is usually on pizza. That's weird. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh yeah. There's nothing wrong with pineapple on pizza, but most of the time you eat pineapple,

it's with pizza. You don't eat the pineapple raw? Like you're just only having it on pizza? Yeah, I don't think pineapple is very good raw so like if you bought a pineapple in the store you'd be like honey we need to get a pizza yes i would that is that i'd say gay honey that's weird because otherwise they'd be confused yes exactly is there a woman in this house um that's weird yeah that's very weird uh okay you don't eat any fruit so you can't

uh no i like I said I mean sometimes I have pineapple I've never like felt the urge to eat an apple like I just don't like it it's very weird I know I'm weird

on this one for sure I just I don't get it you ever smoked out of an apple yes when I was in college yes I don't think there's something

you haven't smoked out of nah I was smoked out of I mean there's a million things you could smoke out of weed was illegal when I was in college that. I was smoked out of a guy. I mean, there's a million things you could smoke out. It was illegal when, when I was in college. So like I was smoking weed before it was legal.

You're you are becoming an old man. I am learning the authorities. Hassan has been trying to cope with his old age by calling me old, but you are old. How old are you? 20. I'm 31, 28.

Wait, you're 20. He's calling you old. Yeah. You're not 30 no i know so who it doesn't matter uh yeah exactly well he keeps you're old as well you're definitely old now you have always been old we're the same age we're the same age yeah yeah and same age as me always behaved old no it's just the truth no you are a full high school generation older than me

yeah that's a lot older. I'm Degrassi new generation. You're OG Degrassi. I have no idea what those references are because I'm not old. Hasan, when you were a senior in high school, I was 13. Okay. It doesn't matter. Look at you.

What? Excuse me. That was hurtful. No, no, no. You looked great, by the way. No, I didn't mean it like that. I meant like the way you behave. me that was hurtful no no no i didn't mean it like that i mean like you'll wait your shit no the way you behave you're in remarkable shape oh thank you for an old man but also it says the guy

that throws out his back every other week that's true uh also that's called being tall another problem for the tall into that a lot big you're stop i do it's you are not invited to the club. You are not invited to the club. It sucks. It's time to continue your homophobic rant. Okay. You were going to pivot to a topic. No. What I was going to pivot to, there's so many topics that I wanted to cover that are great segues.

The old thing is actually one of them, which I was going to talk about with respect to like, you know, content on the internet. And do you feel like you're getting old because you want to like, do you feel like you want to police content or at least have commentary on certain subjects where you're like, this is kind of off like the, I show speed Minecraft penis thing.

Do you know what I'm talking about? That was hilarious. I thought that was like, I don't know. i'm talking about that was hilarious i thought that was like i don't know i thought it was weird like i thought like a lot of i show speeds antics i feel like are are definitely way over the top quick recap for everyone who doesn't know i show speed probably the largest youtube streamer maybe the largest streamer in the world averages like 80 to 100k has 10 million subscribers on youtube and went from 1 million to a million like a year yeah right and he just streams and it's like maybe once uh like a day once every other day whatever

uh and he just does like outlandish stuff insane reactions to the things and recently he got fucking sloppy toppy and minecraft using a mod and it was like straight up minecraft steve and you can do an angle where it's dick out and the girl you can hear is going and you can't see it. Yeah. Wait, so, it's kind of funny. And he's reacting as if he's getting head

in real life when it's happening. Wait, so he's, like, role-playing him getting his dick sucked in Minecraft. Yeah, from this random, and it's like, it's kind of funny, but then you consider, like,

literally everyone that wives him is like 12. Yeah, but, like, that's fine it's a minecraft penis i don't see this is what i'm saying i i can't tell if you're trying to overcompensate by trying to be like oh i'm young i'm not no i think that's fine i think that's just like that's just like that's no different than the yard talking about piss shit and cum that's no different than you talking about sexcapades no no no i i get that but like i feel as though our audiences are a little bit older or not even a little bit like a lot older yeah but like it doesn't matter if the general age is older if there are people that are younger if you're uncomfortable because young people are watching it you know there are 13 year olds watching you there are it's not like there's zero 13 year olds watching you so you are saying it's like either okay you're like oh it's bad because it's

a lot of 13 year olds like what's the number of 13 year olds where it's a problem i think if it's like the majority but it's okay if like a thousand 13 year olds watch it yeah especially if you're especially if you're not like coding your content specifically for like much much younger audiences you see what I'm saying? If you pivot. It's like the Minecraft or paradox. I would get it if he was doing content for kids and then pivoted to sexual stuff. But like that's the base he built because they've always enjoyed what he's done. It's not different from what grew him to where he is.

It's not like he was doing like child Roblox and then he was like, now here's porn kids. Has this been controversial? like child Roblox and then he was like, now here's porn kids. I get that. Has this been controversial? It's kind of controversial, but only because Jake Sucky just tweeted out. Yeah, fuck that guy. Jake Sucky tweets out a lot of... He's a bit of an I showed speed police officer and tweets

out a lot of the fuck things he does. This is Ludwig unironically trying to fucking... No, I think... This is what is known as a king star method where you know that there's a powerful fan base or a very popular content creator, so you establish yourself as not

directly targeting them. Mogul mail speed. Not directly targeting them, but also being understanding. We're not. Go ahead, continue. Where you like uh you know being understanding we're not pull it up no you go go ahead continue okay where you you uh attack the guy uh that's like you know policing his behavior he's basically trying to say i'm trying to get on the good side of speed i think you're probably you've probably been critical

of him it's it's hard not to be critical of him bang yeah so i've done the policing of speed i just think that it probably overextends because of what he's done to like like i'm willing to bet if you looked at that there's a lot of like uh positive commentary in there well i think i recognize why he's big i think you pulled a philip defranco and hit the hit the two sides no i i think i 100 i think i understand why he's big i think and you you have to be ignorant that too if you don't understand that and it's like he's clearly resonating with millions and millions of of teens and kids yeah uh which is why i was asking like are we getting old because like when i was younger i'm sure if i was like 13 14 i would

fucking love that content i'd be be like, this is so good. Yeah. This guy's crazy. You just don't understand him. Like he's so funny. But now I'm 31 and I'm like, should the kids be watching this? Well, not really, but like, I'm not even saying that, but I do sometimes feel like, uh, I don't know.

Maybe I'm just being a party pooper, but I do sometimes feel like a sense of responsibility. I don't even enjoy the fact of getting old is all about aesthetics for me i don't care about the like the personality i know because you've been listening to like frank uh frankie valley in the four seasons you were 14 frankie valley the four seasons yes a lot of you guys are very old uh frank sinatra but i also i listen to, my music days is very varied. I listen to the rap pack on one day and then the next day

I could be listening to Beyonce's new album. Which is pretty good. Which is great. Hassan wouldn't let me listen to it last night. Because she said a slur. Oh, that's bad. And I can't, not my queen.

I don't think I can associate with her anymore. Yeah. That was ableist and I, that was ableist specifically in the UK. That's the funniest that is like the funniest uh uh i don't know line of of criticism for someone is like well this is a regionally this is a regionally a slur i mean that's how it all is right yeah no i know but it's like really funny because we're in america so like when something is a slur here

because we dominate culture so aggressively, so powerfully that, uh, ever, it's like, well established that that's considered inappropriate. Right. But it's just funny to think about it from the perspective of like people in the UK being like,

well, no, this is unacceptable. This is, this is disability. This is ableist. You're like Batman's hench. Yeah.

This is, yeah. This is unacceptable, Beyonce. I've been a big fan for many, many years. He wouldn't let me listen to Beyonce in the car yesterday. Because I'm not an ableist. Oh. That's why.

Which is why we listen to King Von. He wasn't ableist. I didn't even like that song. Look, I don't think you're ableist. You're trying to defend yourself for real now. No, no, no. I don't even like that song look I don't think you're trying to defend yourself for real now no no no I just I'm coming across like you are to wrap up the conversation I don't think speed is

much like the biggest problem no I don't think so either I think Andrew Tate is like a bigger problem I think Andrew Tate is definitely a bigger problem than speed because like speed's type of content is more like uh like it's it's supposed to be shocking like you're not he's like white boy seventh street for zoomers yeah some people will try to emulate that but not everyone will i have no idea what you're talking about it's okay we're gonna move past

that another content another content creator that i actually want to talk about even though this demographic of people talking about it is kind of uh not the best look aesthetic aesthetically speaking but jidian uh there's a jidian tommy in a drama i saw that and i've been thinking a lot about this and for those of you who don't know uh jidian was banned from twitch for a harassment campaign that he did against pokemane he apologized for it they made up for it and and you know they became friends and then but he's still banned but he's still banned from twitch so he went to twitchcon eu he snuck in with a partner badge from someone else and he filmed something there and he was being like you know he does a

lot of pranks he does like you know the best buy uh prank shit where he goes and like annoys people that are you know minimum wage workers are best buy yeah he went to twitchcon eu because he's banned from twitch so it's like a fuck you to twitch and then maybe this is a good video so he's just trying to disrupt a bit yeah exactly which i don't have an issue with that sort of thing at all like that's what you're doing uh the part of the part of which was like controversial is that uh he went to the tommy in it meetup and there's a lot of minecraft stands there obviously and uh he was like you know yelling and then they said that he was harassing them like the minecraft stands so there was a huge line for the meet and greet that was closed and he clout cut through line because one of the guards

is like i know you he's like get me in the line so they like brought him to the front and then he was like like just like overly excited screaming for tommy he's like tommy i love tommy he's so hot i fucking love tommy like pretending to be a fangirl of tommy yeah it's like a joke but like ran that bit for like 45 minutes into the ground uh and then and then he got beef with girls around him who were just Tommy in it stands. Yeah. And then Tommy talked about it. He was like, there was a guy. Tommy tried to reach out to him after, and he was unable to reach out to him directly.

He hit me up and told me to reach out to him, which I did, but I never got a response back from him. Tommy told you to reach out to Jadian. Yeah. He said, I'm trying to reach him, and I can't. And you DMed Jadian? Yeah, I did. And he done it with you? And we talked.

No, we had talked previously, like right before then. And then when I reached out to him with the Tommy Innet thing, like I didn't get anything back from him for a while until the video dropped. And he was like, yeah, I was suspended from Twitter. Like I could not even talk to him this entire time. Oh. So. That sucks because in the video dropped. And he was like, yeah, I was suspended from Twitter. Like, I could not even talk to him this entire time. Oh. So.

That sucks because in the video, he reacted to Tommy saying I reached out. And then he's like, Tommy never reached out to me. Which is not true. But he just, I guess, didn't know. I, yeah, I don't. Sure. I don't know. I don't know what, like, I watched the video yesterday.

But the reason why I wanted to talk about it is because it's a unique situation. On the one hand, Gideon, as you can see from that video specifically, reaches out to a very different, but certainly there are content creators out there that are now serving an otherwise underserved community. I think this is a huge white base. What? I think it's a huge base of people who are just white. It's like rap music. Everyone consumes it, and there's more white people. So, of course, there's going to be like a big amount. I think you can just say he covers a much less nerdy side of the

internet. Like it's much less gamer focused. The only game those people will play is like call duty. Yeah. But no, I, I also think that like, um,

our audiences are, are much more white than percentage wise. And sure. Yeah. But they're very nerdy. They're like on the spectrum of D&D to Call of Duty. We're on the D&D side. Yeah, they're the jocks.

The Call of Duty, Madden, 2K players are the jocks of the game. If we played a football game and it was our viewers against their viewers, I think we'd probably lose. 100%. But if it's a chess match... Actually, that's not true. I do have a lot of i have a thomas crabtree in my fan base so is he like a fan is like michael crabtree's brother or something

he is a uh i think he's a heisman trophy winner i'm also a pretty good football player he has a super no not a heisman trophy winner but he has a super bowl ring no i am i'm pretty good are you good were you good at any sports quick aside yeah i was uh i was a competitive soccer player i played left back oh he's actually very he is i could imagine i'm a good soccer player and i also uh was starting quarterback for my neighborhood football team we played we played a little bit of basketball you're not very good about no i i never played basketball is not great but you are athletic i play left back as well by the way no no i'm saying bench well basketball coordination my coordination put me a quarterback in any game and i'm gonna yeah no you not great, but you are athletic. I play left back as well, by the way. Basketball coordination is different than anything else. Put me a quarterback in any game and I'm going to...

Yeah, no, you would dominate. I'm saying your coordination for basketball is different than other sports. I would destroy you in a 1v1. What were you saying? Oh my god. Are you going to let him get away with that? I don't know anything about basketball.

1v1 in basketball. Hasan, you've got to continue the thought. We were losing. Wait, that is the most insane thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I do love the conversation. Let's get back. Put basketball in one of the bros versus bros, dudes versus dudes. Basketball is one of the games.

3-v-1? What? Bros versus pros is me, Stan, and Atrioc going three against one in a professional of their eSport. You want me to do three versus one and you win basketball? Oh, I thought that's what... I thought it was like one v. one. That's bro versus bro. Yeah, bro versus bro. Different series.

Okay, bro versus bro. You were talking about doing one with me. I said I would do it with you. One of the games is basketball. The only problem with that? What? I wouldn't do it because I'd have to put you in the thumbnail. So, can't exist.

Okay. We're going to, that's a very cool way to try to deflect away from that's a very cool way to deflect away from it order's been called back to the jidian thing i was talking about initial thoughts initial thoughts one thing i want to say before we before we get to the initial thoughts is like i think that pranksters like jidian have existed since the beginning of time it's existed in mainstream media it's certainly existed on the YouTube space. Gideon, as far as like his impact and his content or the way he carries himself and what he does

is infinitely less problematic than a lot of white pranksters that popped off on YouTube and got clouded the fuck up and did horrifying shit both in their videos and also the way that they conducted themselves. But because, and this is the controversial part because Judy and his black, same with I show speed.

I think that we do end up analyzing it from a different lens. Maybe, but I also think Aiden Ross receives the same flag cause he does a bunch of dumb shit. I don't think to the same degree as Judy and those though. Really? Yeah. I feel like it's possible. think that that is like uh people will get very mad at me because they'll and they'll

bring up like examples of like white people being canceled or whatever the fuck and that's true certainly but if you look at the impact of someone like judian like he's just being annoying you know that's his thing yeah he's being fucking annoying i personally am not a fan of that kind of content i don't think it's not for me i've never enjoyed it um but plenty of people do but that is less impactful than like you know sexual assault prank i used to enjoy it or or like going to the going into the hood with my trump car prank you know what i mean like all that shit that's like way worse yeah that is i i don't think he's nearly in that category and i think it shows because i think he has a lot more success in those people and longevity than those people because those people

are like a flash in the pan but i think for this specific example like uh i think tommy reacted in a way because of how his fans felt about it. Oh yeah. No, I wasn't saying the way that Tommy reacted. And then I think also Gideon was like super disingenuous about how he phrased it. Cause he's almost been like, damn, they're trying to put a smear campaign against me. What if I was genuinely a Tommy fan?

And it's like, well, yeah, that's the whole point. What if you were, you weren't, you were like a disingenuous fan yelling. Yeah.

And it's in a way, I think pretty easy to perceive it. If you're like a Tommy and a fan yelling yeah and it's in a way i think pretty easy to perceive it if you're like a tommy and a fan in a lineup and then someone's like fake yelling and it's pretty easy to tell when someone's like yeah tommy yeah they don't actually care that it devalues the thing you are caring about and it just makes them feel bad i don't think they have to fucking go out of their way to like try to kick him out but yeah he probably made everyone feel like a bit worse in the line 100 i i agree with you on that absolutely and i don't think he cares about that i don't think he's ever considered that in

his life and i think that's the the life of a of a guy who goes around in films youtube videos in public is you can't care about that yeah otherwise your content will be worse yeah so you are like i think that the whole idea is let me devalue humans or just put me above them and be the dominator in the space. Put the content above it. Yeah. Cause content is more important. Which is fine.

Everyone that does IRL does that to a certain degree. A hundred percent. Yes. Except that's the reason. That's why I try to be as like careful and considerate when I'm doing IRL streams and with respect to like. There's no line, right? There's no like, this is okay.

This is not okay. Everyone's subjective line is different. And even holding a camera in public like they're half the world will immediately think you're a piece of shit absolutely this is why they're right this is why i don't yeah i don't enjoy doing irl streams i hate it yeah as much as i like it you're good at them when it's not on your stream yes because yeah it's it's it's a lot more pressure when you're when you're holding the camera or it's on your screen you are the guy making this happen i think i think that's the same for everyone by the way the you're i'm better at other people's irl streams as well than mine because i'm constantly worried like is this good are people enjoying this or am i annoying am i being a nuisance

exactly i'm trying to balance like i don't want to fucking be a nuisance and annoy people and also at the same time is this good good content for everyone? And when you, when you have, when you're just a character on somebody else's stream, you can keep the perspective of, am I being annoying? Am I being a nuisance in check a little bit more? Because you don't have to pay attention to,

am I being good content as much? Cause you can back off. Exactly. And it doesn't matter. Cause exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's not your fault.

You're just there. Yep. I agree with that. I'm just better on other people's streams period. Unless it's you can back off. Exactly. And it doesn't matter because it's not your stream. Exactly. Yeah. It's not your fault. You're just there. I agree with that. I'm just better on other people's streams, period. Unless it's Name Your Price. Everyone is. You're great on Name Your Price. That's what I'm saying.

That's the only stream in which I've actually been able to be. But it's a studio setting. It's different. Yeah. Yeah, because it almost feels like probably someone else's stream because they're doing production.

But yeah, I think Gideon probably does receive more flack but i think i think it's kind of dumb he's trying to be a victim in this spot without at least accepting like what like that he's being a pain in the ass everyone for the record just so everybody is clear on where i stand on this i agree with you 100 on that part i think that think that the TommyInnit fan part of that, proportion of that, definitely, at least according to my subjective lines, went beyond what is appropriate,

acceptable, good content even. I think that he could have handled that delicately. But him doing the push-up contest and stuff like that, that's funny. There were actually legitimate funny parts in that video. Yeah, the soccer part was funny. Yeah's fine exactly because it was like everyone is having i think anytime you're

doing something and everyone's having a good time you're adding to the vibe exactly but if you are like creating content in lieu of other people's vibes like it's just i think it's fucked if your content is bumming people around you like if that's your if that's your stated purpose then yeah i i think he's gotten better at that i think he was worse i think he's he's way more ready to just make other people's days worse so he would have better content and it's like fuck it i'm i'm a rebel i'm devious doesn't matter yeah and uh and i think i think he's gotten way better at that yeah um so we are in agreement there for sure um okay but the reason why i brought it up was the age thing however um there's another angle to it

we talked about andrew tate misogyny on the internet do you think it's popping off again like i feel like there was i mean it's always been there obviously it's a structural problem it needs to be tackled uh with uh with material restitution however i do feel like uh content is of course always reflective not to get too gromshy in here but content is always reflective of the material realities and right now it does seem like the 2016 era like gamer gate era like i'm just gonna be misogynistic because you know it's gonna trigger the right people type of content is like popping off again right i imagine it's like a swing thing right like it's like pendulum yeah yeah and uh and i think the trend is always less sexist like if you if you

like look big zoom out like over the past hundred years but that probably involves periods where it's like hey this is a more sexist period and that's probably in like a direct retaliation to a period where everyone was like super shut down on anything sexist and also a new generation who hasn't like yet figured it out you know how there's like kids who can do the behind the ear joke and they'll like they'll like they'll be like oh my god how's there a coin back there and they don't know i think it's the same it's like they like they see misogyny on the internet like that's sick there's i think a literal 12 year old on tiktok who saw like the call of duty washing your dishes tiktok yeah and it was like it's like a call duty female

call duty player it's a new joke it's a new joke and it's a new joke and they're like oh my god this is crazy it's it's demeaning women but like to them they're just like a fucking 12 year old boy and they don't and the backlash from like a figure an authoritative figure uh makes it almost funnier for them because like oh this is also pissing off like a parental figure you know what i mean like old people care about these sorts of things i'm young i don't give a fuck that's why i always say like you know young kids always have like an anarchist streak in them uh with respect to that they consider that to be like a a hierarchy that they must destroy but i feel like it's getting better i don't know our kids dropping slurs in valorant lobbies at the same rate they were doing in

call of duty lobbies it's much better than it was when we were that age that's what i feel like is the case i don't know i think so i think so too like there was i don't think there was ever as like robust and as uh big of an online community like the minecraft community is which also tends to go way too far to the other side on the the radfem shit where they just like are ridiculous um but that kind of community has never existed as a counterweight and has been like as big or as powerful on the internet whereas like i feel like in the 2014 to like 2016 era it was mostly just like people going ranging from like misogynistic you know transphobic bigoted content all the way to like 2016 era it was mostly just like people going ranging from like misogynistic

you know transphobic bigoted content all the way to like straight up nazis right like um and there's a little bit more of a balance it's not there uh but there was no there was no like left adjacent uh counterweight to that which there is one now but now i feel like there's another shift and i'm sensing it well like the shift can't go that far because there's a tighter like like leash for creators like you know the shit you could get away with on twitch fucking five years ago oh i know you can't get away with any of that today yeah not a shot and so like that puts a leash on creators which then is like a leash on what viewers can watch yeah you know there's still a lot of stuff on twitch though but especially on tiktok tiktok i think tiktok is the one that's

like fucking wild wild west yeah are you on tiktok yeah i'm on tiktok do you see that shit uh i i most of my tiktok is just thirst traps is it yeah my instagram and t and TikTok are just like thirst traps. Yeah. You know, it's curated for you. Yeah, I know. So you enjoy that. It's okay. I do. I worked very hard on trying to build a good for you page for myself, but I constantly undermine it whenever I look at like cringe shit for a stream.

My Instagram, I intentionally like to look at shirtless men. That's fair. Right? I think it's what Instagram's for. I think Instagram is pure vanity, and there's no substance behind it. Is it weird, though, that I deliberately know that, and I don't want to fuck up the algorithm, so I will only look at that?

No, you're leaning into it. So you wouldn't, like a friend gets married from high school, you're like, can't look at that. I got to look at the shirt. No, no. Quick, scroll past. I don't want to like this. I've got a lot of straight friends, and sometimes I'll be like, like, like, cause I've got a lot of, I don't want to like this. I've got a lot of straight friends and sometimes I'll be like,

yo, is this girl hot? And she'll like have big boobs and then like boobs will be all over my fucking for you page. And it kind of ruins it. Get it out of here. I don't think boobs are gross. Yeah.

I don't even think those milk bags. I don't even think vaginas are gross. I just, they just don't do anything for me. And I prefer to see shirtless men. That's fair. So you're curating a page. That's good for me and I prefer to see shirtless men. That's fair. So you're curating a page that's good for you. That's the whole point.

Yeah, but I feel like I'm missing out on it when I don't have a good for you page because there's things which we're going to do in a little bit actually like the tortilla slap challenge. You know what I mean? Stuff like that? Yeah, we're going to tortilla slap challenge. Is it on this pod? No. In an hour we're going to do the tortilla slap challenge Challenge. Is it on this pod? No. We're going to do it after. In an hour, we're going to do the Tortilla and Slap Challenge.

Before you leave. I have Sussy Sunday. I know. Gotta go then. No, I'm locking this shit down. I have to play Amogus. Are you streaming after this? No, I'm not.

Okay. I decided to take a day off. Congrats, by the way. I was going to do Sussy Sundays, and I heard Ludwig was going to be on it, and I was like, I don't want to. You like hanging out with me a little. It's kind of awkward. Well, since the sun's taking the day off, I'm also going to take the day off.

I think I've been working too much. Bro, you're the opposite. I'll be honest, I'm the busiest non-streamer that anybody could ever be. This is pretty funny because this was one of the things I was going to talk about. Last night, we're at Matt's birthday. Oh no. And Shot's birthday party. Oh no. Is he going to expose me now?

Austin is sitting in a corner by himself, and he just looks visibly shook. And normally, Austin is a social butterfly. You've seen him. He's a people pleaser. He loves being the life of the party, talking to everybody. Max!

How you doing? Anyway, left and right, you know, shaking hands, slapping butts. I'm a schmoozer. You're a schmoozer. He's a schmoozer. And it's great. It's great. You're extroverted. i'm a schmoozer you're a schmoozer he's a schmoozer it's great it's great you're extroverted you're you're schmoozer love that i am as well but but you've probably never seen me schmooze i've never you know schmooze exactly you're not a schmoozer do you know why because you used to be a schmoozer what happened austin experienced that

for the first time in his life i know no no he was sitting in the corner he goes damn what like why am i so tired i was like yeah because you fucking streamed for four hours before you got here but i'm like that on my shows too maybe it's just politics suck the life out of you but you never but you don't actually go out and like you know engage in like networking or like go to a fucking event right after you stream for like four or five hours? No, you're right. But usually I need like a cool down of like an hour or two. Yeah. And then I'm right into it. Well, look, like TwitchCon, like we're streaming on the floor.

I was able to put that energy right after that and go to the parties and network. I think that's a little bit different. I think it's politics. Politics suck the life out of you. Dude, streaming at Hassan is like a fucking sweatshop, bro. He has you in here sitting in your chair. You got this weird ass high angle that's for like eight foot nine men you're not sure if you should be there at certain moments no half the time it's just like you're just spectating

his stream he'll go up on a tangent and it's like you should like he'll turn to me you can go if you want you know like you don't have to stay because i feel again it goes back to like the dynamic of like, I want to make sure I'm accommodating to you. And I want to make sure that you're having a good time. And if I feel like you're looking at, you know, you're looking at shirtless photos of dudes in your phone while I'm like watching Trump speak or whatever. Then at that point, it's like, yeah. But I enjoy, I enjoy being on his stream and I also enjoy watching it. Being on a song stream is like going to your friend's house for dinner and sometimes he gets mad at his parents and they yell at each other.

You just got to chill. And it's a little awkward, but you'll get through it. Yep. I understand that. I just got to get better at it. When Hassan dips into something really controversial, I try to leave to go to the restroom. What I do is if he's not in one,

I'll get him to say something controversial so i can leave oh okay so you have when you have to pee and like you just you need to like and i just i'm like sit the fuck down yeah yeah watch me it's like when i said the basketball won't be one thing part of me is like oh this is my time yeah yeah this is how i leave no this is great we're definitely doing that for dude versus dude yeah dude very what's it's actually called dude perfect that's what the show oh really yeah yeah well i i too love christ like those guys um anyway so back to what we were talking about i totally forgot what we were talking you were talking about me being a social butterfly at parties oh yeah but he just he just realized that like it's exhausting and i think that's what it is like i used to be a much more introverted much more social person and because i give everything you've talked about this before too you said like i give

everything to the stream where i'm like trying to be 100 all the time on stream for like eight hours it takes a lot out of me and i don't even realize it and then when i go out i'm just like it's sloppy seconds for the rest of us yeah it. It's not good. I, I call myself an extrovert with introverted tendencies. Everyone is, no one is fully extroverted. Yeah. But okay. Fair enough.

I mean, I, I, I often when I'm at home, usually like I, I would much rather like stay in and like be alone and go out and go out and party. I think that's fair. Cause you're old. Same with me. And go out. And go out and party.

I think that's fair. Because you're old. Same with me. No, I'm not old. You're not old. When I come here. It's just your preference. Los Angeles is just more, I think, of a fun party city. I mean, it's a fucking dump.

But it's still much more fun of a party city. I never hang out. I usually, I go to like something once a week. Maybe once every few weeks. You never hang. I don't hang. You're not a hanger. Yeah, shit to do. But when I hang, I feel like I'm pretty weeks. You never hang. I don't hang. You're not, you're not a hanger. Yeah, shit to do.

But when I hang, I feel like I'm pretty one-on-one. I try to, I try to balance it too, but I'm, I'm not like, I'm not a hanger either anymore. I just,

I just stream all the fucking time. And then when I don't stream, it's like. Hassan likes to Netflix and chill with his straight guy friends. Are you, is that weird? Yeah. Why is that weird?

Well, like, are you watching something particular are you like browsing no like he's like you want to come over when austin was here when austin was here like a couple show like a year ago or whatever uh and i was like bro you want to like because i didn't want to go out so i was like you can come over if you want we can watch something and he was just like no yeah i was like that's kind of gay bro yeah literally i was like what do you mean like why we're friends like friends can watch your show yeah i just normal to watch it if you

have a show in mind if you don't have a show in mind and it's just for the sake of for the sake of friendship that i know i know that this sounds weird but if i want to go like watch something with somebody like unless it's like a like a really good movie like go to a movie theater like an event most of the time when i want to watch something with somebody it's like oh yeah there's gonna be we're not gonna be watching the movie we're not gonna be watching i think that's odd but like you think that's all i wouldn't i wouldn't hit you up to like drive all the way from wherever the fuck you are seven and a half hours away to be like hey come over we'll watch like i don't know some random thing but um

he's here already instead of sitting in his hotel alone i'm like yeah just come over if you want to hang out like we can hang out in my i would rather go to a rooftop and drink and socialize than if he had been like yo everything everywhere all once he's playing in theater i want to see you want to go with me that would be different oh what if he was like okay the rehearsal just came out on hbl max and i really want to see you want to come over and watch it on my tv no really because to me those are the same no they're different for me but if he was just like hey come over and maybe we'll watch something not maybe we'll watch something like we'll watch something we'll just hang out if we hang out at my places that are

going somewhere if we were already here and he turned on the tv and we started watching something i'd be like this is gay this is gay this is indecent i would just much rather with my friends i would much rather go out and do an activity than sit in and watch sure and if if i do sit and watch something with somebody like i hope i get laid this is an affront to god that is a little weird you're a little you're a little no no no no no no no no most of the time wait you think that's a little strange tell me why that you wouldn't like if i was like yo austin i think there's a sick movie you'd love and i'm gonna watch it you want to come over and watch it and it was like not an inconvenient thing and you know their plans and you're like i'm saying most i feel like most no he's homophobic most of the time i i say like i feel like watching something on the couch with somebody is more of an intimate

activity most of the time there are exceptions I will give you that. There are some times. It's me and Cutie. It's you and Cutie? Then I'm third wheel. Then it's weird. Me, Cutie, and Aiden. Then I'd come over and watch. Because you think it'll lead us all back.

No, no, no, no. I have zero expectation. That's the other thing. We talked about this on the show. You're a hornball. No, no. We talked about this on the show. The Hasan Abiy broadcast yesterday. When you, and not to go off on a tangent but when it comes to intimate things just because somebody invites

you over to go watch a movie and there may be a little romantic connection prior doesn't mean anything's gonna happen are you saying that there's a little bit of a romantic connection prior with you and aiden no god no no not at all do you do you wish for there to be no aiden's cute he knows that i think he's cute But there's nothing beyond that He is cute It's true Aiden's got a cute personality

He's a cute guy Why am I not saying that Because you're homophobic What? You can't say that Because you're homophobic What the fuck Yes I can

You spent the first 45 minutes Of this podcast I can be homophobic And say Aiden's cute At the same time You gotta pick I just did it Wow

Aiden is very handsome And he's very sweet It's true. But you know what? He's... Keep saying nice things about him. He's got a girlfriend. No romantic attraction.

No, not at all. What? Aiden and I are strictly platonic. You keep saying it like this. What? I'm going to do you. Okay. I don't want to fuck a son.

You would get a different vibe from that. Okay. KSI versus Logan Paul. Or Jake Paul. Oh, shit. Who? Nice. Are we trying to fit in with a younger crowd?

Who asked? Yeah, I did. What are we? Are you trying to get hip now? I'm trying to get hip. That's not going to happen. What? I know.

Do you want it to? Do you think I would beat Ludwig in a boxing match? I think you said I would. Evenly matched, as a matter of fact. You guys are around. You're pretty fit. You're the same. Yeah, but I'm not a fighter.

What's your weight? It was 170. I've lost about six pounds. I'm 164. I fucking destroy you. Yeah, but I look so good. But I've seen how he fights, and it's not very good. I'm 164. I'd fucking destroy you. Yeah, but I look so good. But I've seen how he fights, and it's not very good. I'm 188.

The thing is, Ludwig, is I know I wouldn't- Are you guys the same height? No. I know I wouldn't be a good fighter, because when I was watching the boxing with Minx and everything, I was going out and watching them go out, and I saw the Vaseline on their face. I was like, that would clog my pores.

And you don't want that. No, I would be so obsessed with how I looked on stage. You're not going to look pretty. That's what, but then I would be out. I could see you trying to like, fix my hair.

Off the reflection of like, I don't know, anything in the crowd. Be like, when you're running, when you go on a run in the morning, do you think about how you look if other people are walking by you go to run in the morning do you think about how you look if other people are walking by you as you run no because you probably look bad yeah in

the morning when i'm at the gym i don't look good i wear like shitty clothes okay with that because it's not no yeah it's like i'm under construction at the gym i don't i don't see that as an opportunity to impress people i'm like working on myself and there's no one that like you run into that you're like oh fuck you saw me like this no in the gym in the gym there's just like a bunch of straight i go to a bodybuilding gym so there's like a bunch of straight bodybuilders bodybuilders not my type that's fair also straight not my type that's good straight men the most repulsive human beings on the planet you are you are alone on that what i feel like you think gay men every every one of my gay friends with the with the exception of you would definitely want to fuck straight dudes.

I don't think straight men are, because you guys are straight men. I love straight men as my friends. But the moment I hear a guy is straight, now there are certain men that I find attractive. And if they were gay, of course I would want to maybe do stuff with them. But if they are straight, it's off the table because so much of my attraction to somebody is them being attracted to me that makes sense so you want to feel loved and i also think that you know because you're very masked you are you are like very straight passing unless you're trying actively to speak like he says i code switch you do switch 100 everyone does to an extent like around girls yeah this is my natural cadence

i think this is what i normally yes but when you're around girls you you queen it up for sure yep i do like absolutely yeah they they love it and then sometimes he does it for me he like will literally perform it's weird in front of you alone no no when you're talking to like women around me sometimes is that not is that what you do do you not do you not do that when you're talking to like women around me sometimes is that not do you not do you not do that when you're when you're like talking to someone you'll be like yeah i i i amped it up for you oh oh yeah there was one time i know hasan gets a kick out of it so like i played it up even more he'll be like oh my god your skin is gorgeous and he's like he's like doing shit i've never seen him do before like you're like limp resting i'ming. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?

I don't know. He's pleasing the crowd. I'm cleaning it up. I'm just being who I am. But they love it, though. No, ladies love it. They love it. Yeah, oh, I know.

Why can't you just let a gay man be gay? No, I just hate it. It's so interesting. Keep that shit in the bedroom. I think I'm in this weird, this interesting, because I'm a masculine-presenting gay guy, most women that I meet that don't know me think that I'm straight.

And when they find out you're gay, it's a completely like... Yeah, they lift their defenses a bit. Exactly. They're completely like, it's all off. Women treat you so much better when you're a gay man. It must be a bit annoying sometimes. Sometimes. I think i get treated well sometimes sometimes well i mean not all of us they might just be too friendly sometimes i get frustrated when women are like some women

they they put on a front like i am interested. Not all women. Some, some. Yeah. This is a misogyny podcast, you can say it. Wait, it is. But, which is annoying. So like I actually deliberately will go talk about how I'm homosexual. Yeah. That's interesting.

Well, that's why the incels are right. Wait, that was kind of an incel take. Yeah, it was. You're like, yeah, you gotta fucking, I tell them I'm gay immediately, so they treat me like a human. That's what you said. Can we cut that from the podcast?

No. No cuts. No cuts. This is a Top G edit, for sure. So you don't want to talk about... There's one element of the Paul brothers, and I can't believe I'm handing it to them, but I do respect everything they've done to their bodies and how much they've like worked on no homo though

it's like it's the natural progression i think it's like youtuber or maybe just famous person gets very rich they get power and then it's like i feel like getting a fucking hot tight fit bod is uh it comes to the territory but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the amount of work and dedication that you have to put in to be able to actually fight in the ring, even if it's like... Oh, yeah, Jake Paul's a great fighter. Yeah, even if... He's probably actually good now.

Yeah, I agree with that. Even if it is... I have friends who fight train. I have friends who are actual trainers, and they also agree that Jake Paul is a pretty decent fighter from what they've seen. I feel like he's been doing nothing

about training that. I don't care if he fights Case. In the case, I will not fight him. It's a nothing burger of a... It's not his best interest. Do you think he'd beat me in a fight? I think so because I have 20 pounds on you and a few inches. But you think you'd beat me in a fight? I forgot. I think so because I have 20 pounds on you and a few inches.

But I think you're very strong. I don't. I think you would also beat me in a fight. I don't think. Because I like you too much. I'm not specifically good at boxing either. I like you too much. I don't know if I could punch you that hard.

I don't think I could either. I think it would be. I don't think I could. I don't think I have any. Maybe it would be like the Hunger Games and we just eat blueberries and make love. Is that what happened in the Hunger Games? I have not seen it. Maybe I do want to fight you.

Katniss and Peter. I do like the idea of like wrestling another man, but like just like in a very... You just want to have sex right now. You just offered. Yeah. Okay. Hasan, let's talk about your depression real quick.

My depression? Yeah. I'm not depressed. Well, that's because your viewers depression real quick. My depression? Yeah. I'm not depressed. Well, that's because your viewership's doing all right right now. It's true. It'll come and go. He's also really excited to be on Name Your Price this Thursday. Is he?

Oh, my God. But who's going to be there if it's not a good lineup? Well, I heard somebody leaked that Ray's going to be there, but I cannot confirm nor deny it. And there's one other guest that I cannot leak. Actually? Because that's coming out tomorrow, yeah. Well, this comes out tomorrow. Yeah, but I cannot confirm nor deny it. And there's one other guest that I cannot leak. Actually? Coming out tomorrow, yeah. Well, this comes out tomorrow. Yeah, but I don't know

about the timing and, you know, who knows. It'll come out after. What time is it going to come out? I don't know. Just say it. Whoa! Yep. Hey, be prepared to bleep that out. This is huge! No, actually

bleep it out anyway, because then they'll have to go to my Twitter to look who that that out. This is huge. No, actually bleep it out anyway, because then they'll have to go to my Twitter to look who that guest is. Oh, my God. All right. Hasan, why are you still so results-oriented in your day-to-day joy? It's the best thing to be able to otherwise analyze something that's qualitative. That's why I look at numbers. Do you know you're

going to fall off? No. How dare you? Is that true? Yeah, of course you will. We all fall off. We all fall off. Everybody falls off.

God, that sucks. PewDiePie has fallen off. Name three actors from a hundred years ago. The most famous actors. God, you're fucking right. A hundred years ago. Everybody falls off,

but they're dead. The three stooges? Dying is the... Charlie Chaplin. Charlie Chaplin. Charlie Chaplin. Marilyn Monroe. No, wrong period. Okay.

By like 50 years. Dean Martin. I don't know anything, but... Off by like 10 years. Dean Martin and what's his buddy's name? See, I can't even remember. It was like Dean Martin. They were like a very powerful duo.

Okay, for the record, those guys have died. That's the ultimate fall off. You're dead. Plus L, plus ratio, plus you're white. Sure. That's done. I'm talking fall off you're dead plus l plus ratio plus you're white sure that's done i'm talking like while you're while you're around relevancy yeah but like why does it matter it'll be gone when you die then why do you need to have it like it will fall off and so i feel like it's futile to try to hold on to it for as long as possible and have that be your source of

joy i have a very real answer for this that i don't think you're going to appreciate or believe and i've had this conversation with you before i'll listen um the way i see my relevancy and it feels good to be relevant like you know a little bit of narcissism there who doesn't have that especially in our sector in our industry but the way i see relevance is a way to try to uh combat otherwise reactionary ideologies that are very prescient permanent a part of our everyday existence social conditioning is is really powerful right for for people to be bigoted And I do see that like relevance in that respect for myself is a way to show people that like, you know,

you can still be fun and cool and be friends with all your favorite content creators and, and not be a piece of shit, douchebag or, or bigoted. You don't have to be a misogynistic to be funny, even though I do engage in it every now and then, like there's a little bit of podcast.

Yeah. Like this podcast, same with like homophobia, transphobia, everything that we talk about. even though i do engage in it every now and then like there's a little bit of podcast yeah yeah like this podcast same with like homophobia transphobia everything that we talk about if we're going to be serious for a moment like i think that it's the hackiest way that you can pop off but because the social conditioning is so set um as a consequence of our our material conditions that uh it's the easiest thing to lean on. You can always, there's always an avenue for success there. And a lot of people see that. And I think a lot of people look up to that in a weird way almost, right? They think it's cool and funny and edgy.

And I want to be able to combat that. So I see that like relevance has two different metrics of success for me. I get the fulfillment, not from the relevance relevance itself but from what that relevance indicates which means i'm going to have a larger audience of people that i can talk to about politics that i can change the minds of that i can urge to become community organizers that i can urge to actually organize in their workplaces a lot of the starbucks union people are are you know hasanabi heads um there are so many people in my community that have done amazing things like Sean, the black, for example,

who just got a vice piece done on him for coding a way to like to, to disrupt union busting software for, I think it was for Amazon as well. A bunch of other, a bunch of companies that were trying to immediately hire uh scabs when they had uh when they had like workplace uh stoppages happening like strikes happening so you think clout is a currency to fight against like racism homophobia sexism whatever i think that the way it works is as long as i can stay above water and and relevance in and of itself it feels good it feels good to be liked for sure but I do also see that there's like a there's like a secondary reasoning behind

it as well yeah I think that I think that that is if you fall off then they win because then they just be you are washed and irrelevant well that's not the way I see it because i think that i'm not i'm not uh confused about like my impact i don't think it's like incredible i don't think it's like system changing you know what i mean impact you would have would be lost if you were not relevant the impact i would have would be yeah totally blunted and and yeah 100 look at twitch i think twitch i think twitch when i first started on twitch was dramatically different than like the attitude towards like uh bigotry was i think different than what it is now on the platform for sure you don't think so i think so i think 100

culture comes in swings yeah i think that there's obviously much larger uh there's much larger differences at play there um there's much larger systemic actions at play there as well twitch is uh twitch is interested in like maintaining like some level of terms of service you know what i mean like that's a that's a big factor in it but i think overall like part of the reason why that space became as positive to even like receiving political news is because they saw that one of the largest communities on the platform was a leftist political content creator and i think that people look at that and go i'm more open-minded to hearing this guy out i'm more open-minded to hearing this guy out because he's friends with my favorite content

creator i'm more open-minded to hearing him charitability is a huge tool that i think people uh don't recognize and i'll have a more charitable approach if i'm doing content with you for example but your community is already pretty left-leaning to begin with no no not at all uh yeah i mean i i get that i think um i i mean i think it's enough to to have impacted people i think it's powerful i think like i think if it's like a a war of clout and if i am more clouded than i am more reliable that's like dangerous because then people who are clouded who maybe have ideals that are bad like objectively bad then like then they are people that you can look at and like like if uh if andrew tate is friends with a bunch of big streamers then his opinion is valid yeah no but that is unfortunately valid because he's that is unfortunately how it works that is unfortunately

how it works it's like it's like swimming upwards with like uh with like a tiny paddle instead of being on like a boat you know what i mean sure swimming upstream you do what you can it's not the most reliable thing to do but um it's it's the it's the only thing i have in my tool belt that i can use do you see what i'm saying yeah and and that is unfortunately true though that's why like uh that's why it's it's still impactful when you know steven crowder was blowing up with memes and whatnot and then um and and because of that he was like getting way more prominence same with andrew tate same with uh ben shapiro being on like the meme review like how many children were were uh introduced to ben shapiro um as a consequence of that that's what i that's the way I think about it. Do you think we can control falling off?

Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that's what Hollywood does? Literally. Do you think what people, uh, like PewDiePie and the, as you mentioned,

they become, they become so large that there's, they've maybe not, there's not satisfied, but there's a sense of complacency that sort of is a catalyst to them falling off yeah like i think pewdiepie is like a retired man who lives in japan and vlogs his life in japan and then occasionally hops on like a reddit and then makes a video because that's like when it's canceled no so do that gets canceled but like i don't think uh i don't think that like i think to to not fall

off is just like adapting to the times yeah and then yep and then that's it and then but you're not going to be relatable if you're like so out of touch that uh you are so incredibly famous and and and so rich and so far removed from like any sort of backlash or any sort of commentary you don't even have like any people in your immediate vicinity to tell you like you're wrong about this and you should rethink the stance or whatever. I think that definitely makes your commentary less sharp. We see this with older comics all the time. Dave Chappelle being a great example of it.

Yeah, that is the thing. You become less relatable because you're rich and complacent and then live a good life and you don't know the people anymore. Yeah, your commentary suffers as a consequence of that. You know what a great idea is for you? What? This will keep you hip, keep you young, keep you energized. Go to every Starbucks in America. That is an insane thing to do.

IRL stream and try to get as many unionized as possible. That is an insane thing to do. Give up all your worldly possessions for one year. How many Starbucks exist? I think you need to live in a box. My guess is like 6,000. First of all, the irony of course is that like,

and what you, what you're saying isn't wrong. Like, I mean, I see what you're saying. Your point you're making. 7,500. How many Starbucks?

That'd be a great YouTube video. Oh yeah. Look at that. Okay. Um, that would be a fun YouTube video, like visiting every rainforest cafe, except I would have significantly larger impact literally staying at home.

I don't agree. No, 100%. Individually, I do not have access to 35,000, 40,000 people. 15,000. 30, 15,000. Jesus Christ. 15,000 Starbucks locations. That's a lot.

Let's ditch Starbucks every Amazon warehouse. What? That Starbucks locations. That's a lot. Let's ditch Starbucks every Amazon warehouse. What? That's easier. There's a lot of Amazon warehouses. There's not 15,000. I bet there's like 2,000. Amazon is actually, well, I will be having. 110.

That's doable. I will be having Chris Smalls on of the Amazon Labor Union on the broadcast this week. He's in Los Angeles right now. See, like I do things like that already.. He's in Los Angeles right now. See, like I do things like that already. I'm talking about a big publicity stunt. No, no,

I understand. Cause I think that's how you gain a large influx. That's what it is. That's how you stay relevant is you have a big catalyst that spikes a huge group of people to know who you are or like what you do. And then, and then it goes down and then like the trend like stays like, you know,

smoothly going. Yeah. But if you just keep doing the status quo thing, then it goes down and then like the trend like stays like, you know, smoothly going. Yeah. But if you just keep doing the status quo thing, then it just, it's like this and like maybe it goes up, maybe it goes down, but it eventually will go down. So you need the big spike. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I see that. That's like, we're, we're getting into like the real, you know, backend stuff.

We're opening up the engine right now and showing you how the sausage is made. I use like eight different analogies there, but, um, but yeah, I mean, the way I do that is like, and I get that the way I, the way, the way I do that is through guests and whatnot and things that sometimes get me canceled.

So you won't visit every Amazon warehouse facility. It's a good idea. I do like it. IRL stream it, go to everyone. Maybe. And it's like Ryan Trahan's journey. The problem with that is that it,

um, the way I make content as far as like commentary, it's every day. So I would not be able to keep up with that schedule while simultaneously doing something like that. But it is something I've been, it is something I've been considering a lot, uh, is,

is more, um, just get sick of the grind pre-plan no i i always like it taking a day off today i am i'm i only take a day off because and thursday i only take a day off because i feel i feel myself getting uh a hair trigger like if i start popping off on chatters that i normally would like because there's always people trying to derail the stream but if i start recognizing that i'm popping off on chatters that i normally would like because there's always people trying to derail the stream but if i start recognizing that i'm popping off on chatters that i normally would like avoid ban and move on and i'm just like doing it a lot and i start like yelling at long-term community

subs for like things that i find to be offensive to make an example out of them then i'm like oh shit i'm starting to get like burned out a little bit but you still enjoy the the actual practice of it you just sometimes do it too much. Yeah. It's crazy. I love what I do. I'm built for streaming. Like, it's perfect for me.

It's perfect for me because, you know, I love talking about politics. And it's perfect for me because the format is great. You like going to, like, a pool and then swimming laps up and down until you're exhausted. I like getting real high and doing a big cannonball and then getting out and do another cannonball you're also a cannonball yeah i'm a cannonball guy but like i do i like do a cannonball and then like i come back like three months later and then do another one yeah you do a cannonball and then you like like go fuck the lifeguard yeah that's true and then also maybe set up like a cool way to do a new cannonball or something that's the thing. I want to do that too.

I want to fuck the lifeguard. I want to do Cannonball. That's the Amazon warehouse. That's what I mean. That's the Cannonball. But right now, I'm too much in the... Fuck Amazon. Fuck Jeff Bezos.

I agree. I think he's a great guy. No, I'm saying go fuck him. Oh, have sex with him. I don't know. Did you guys see his girlfriend kind of looks like a less hot but more bimbified version of his wife?

Zipper 7, pull that up. Harsh. Pull up Jeff Bezos' girlfriend. Jeffy B. Yeah. And then pull up Jeff Bezos' wife. Also, we got to wrap up for that. We're going to do this tortilla thing.

I got sundaes to sauce out. Give me images. Give me images. That's his girlfriend. Okay. Now pull up his wife. His wife. Mackenzie Scott caught such a gem

no yeah i think so i mean no they look very different they do no they do but it's like sure it's like more i feel like jeff bezos current girlfriend looks like, is in the same realm where it just looks like what his girlfriend would look like if she got a lot of Botox and plastic surgery done. Right. Mackenzie Scott is like what you would think of when you think of like a, I don't know, a six-year-old, fifth-year-old woman.

She's like a mom. She's like a woman. I mean, she keeps it tight. She's in great shape. She's beautiful. I'm not saying she's not beautiful. I'm more so saying she's like a- Like a normal person. More of a normal person. Like she's, she's in great shape. She's beautiful. I'm more so saying she's like a, like a normal person.

More normal person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, and then obviously his new girlfriend is someone who's just like fucking trying to be hot and shit. Yeah. And you're never going to go from being billionaire, billionaire, breaking up with your wife and then find like a normal person. Yeah.

I think it's probably impossible for him to ever date a normal person again. It's, it's completely over. And for that reason reason i just find it really strange that he did that that he cheated i guess yeah i mean that's probably not like i don't think he considered he cheated on her yeah that's why she divorced yeah the story's actually really wild i think it was like the saudis were involved in in like intercepting communications or something like jesus christ yeah it was high level insane yeah yeah it's weird he gets around yeah well he's a bit of a slut jeffy jeffy is but i mean he looks good out of all the billionaires i would say like you got bill gates you got elon musk jeff bezos in

the best shape out of all the billions for sure although one thing gates bill gates is not in he's not in the best shape no but out of all of them bezos out of all of the billionaires not in the best shape. No, but out of all of them, Jeff Bezos, out of all of the billionaires, is in the best shape. Are you saying those three were in the best shape? The billionaires in the public eye and public consciousness, Richard Branson is probably in better shape than Jeff Bezos, but outside of Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos is probably in the best shape. I think Jeff Bezos looks the best.

His body looks the best. Richard Branson's body probably looks pretty good. You think so? Jeff Bezos has a fucking... Yeah, he's on that HGH grind. For sure. One thing that is terrifying, though, is he's a billionaire

and he's bald. Bald billionaires terrify me. No, I think he gave up. They seem like they have naked cats. No, I think he gave up. Because you have Elon constantly getting hairline surgery and constantly doing stuff.

Because his hairline is like LeBron's. You know what I mean? Goes back and then goes up again. And you can't do that if you're gonna take like steroids because steroids also fuck up your hairline wait he he uh jabezos does steroids i'm almost certain that all of those guys you think so early enough that i think it's shell uh yeah he was bald like real early on yeah when he when amazon was when amazon was supposed to be a digital library he was bald my man was bald as hell he before it became the e-commerce giant rocks with him yeah the bald he's a bald ally yeah i mean bald if i guess if

you're bald long enough i guess that you just you would look weird with hair. Yeah. Like Mr. Clean. Yeah. Or Johnny Sins. I have friends who literally... I have bald friends. Oh, do you? Not the flex. So you can make fun of bald people? But they look... Yeah.

My president was bald. Yeah. I have bald friends who look better bald than they do with hair. Do you think I'd look good bald? No. Well.

You're fucked. I'm not losing my hair. Do you think I'd look good bald? No. You're fucked. I'm not losing my hair. Unless you grow out the beard more. Yeah, I don't like growing my beard out because I feel like it makes me look too old. Dude, you have great Lebanese hair genetics. Oh, I know. You should grow your beard.

I could grow it pretty big, too. I think I could grow a beard like yours. Beards are straight-up makeup for men. Not to get all like, huh, TikTok rat femme with it, but beards are makeup for men. It makes you look older. It does, but it makes you look hot. But it's worth it. I like the stubble.

I think most people, we'll see what the YouTube comments say, but I think most people prefer, that are attracted to men, I think, or I guess women can have beards too, are attracted to stubble as opposed to big beards. I'm going to shave right after this. That's what I'm going to do.

On that note, while Ludwig is filming Austin for some reason, I think that's a good point to end it. That's a good point to wrap it up. Look at me, though. What are you doing? Are you posting this?

I'm trying to see. Oh, you have a. I had to get it. I had to load it. Continue. Okay. Well, anyway, on that note, I think we can wrap it up here. I wanted to give a big thank you to

Austin's show for coming and taking Will's place for this I had to move my flight for this yeah he did he did

thank you and I'm flying coach because of it no you're not I literally am wow devastating the sacrifices you make

are are tremendous you look good send that to me we'll put it in the fucking I like it wait

where are you gonna put I like it to be honest yeah you look good you look good well yeah I don't think I look bad I just prefer this I want to see what you look like

you probably look great as well also Ludwig thank you Ludwig Ludwig do you have anything to plug where can people find that's terrible

that's terrible you look hella Lebanese with that one you look the most Lebanese my dad had a mustache for years yeah anything to shout out you said yeah yeah guys That's terrible. You look hella Lebanese with that one. You look the most Lebanese. My dad had a mustache for years. Anything to shout out you said?

Yeah. Yeah, guys, check out Chuck Schumer, at Chuck Schumer on Twitter. Very cool. And we'll be posting some fun memes there, and that's all. Yeah. Okay.

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