Fear& - Hasan and Will try couples counseling.. | Fear&ChessBoxing ft. Andrea Botez

Episode Date: December 19, 2022

Today we brought the peoples chessboxing champ Andrea to talk about her experience. Slime stuck around after Hasans stream and Qt is here because shes in denial about being a permanent host even though we all know shes on board shes just lying to herself at this point. Anyway we had 5 people on the podcast and it actually sounds good this time so i think i get to keep my job. Topics include where Will has been, mending Hasan and Will’s broken relationship, chessboxing and more. Okay thanks for watchin see ya next week love you merry christmas 🎄🎉BONUS CONTENT🍾 🌟PATREON - https://www.patreon.com/FearAnd🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS - https://linktr.ee/fearand♥ follow our guests! ♥Slime: https://twitter.com/slime_machineQT: https://twitter.com/qtcinderellaAndrea: https://twitter.com/itsandreabotez✰ follow the boys! ✰Hasan: https://twitter.com/HasanthehunWill: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeffMarche: https://twitter.com/MarcheFear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're good. I just got it. This man is a podcasting professional, though. That's right. Hello. Hello. Hello, hello, hello. While we're talking as well, so you can hear her over us as well. Is that better?

I'm fucking steezy these days. I feel like they're only mid because they're crunchy. They also could use, like, half a teaspoon more molasses and, like, one teaspoon of nutmeg. They could also use chocolate chips and regular cookie dough. Yeah. I think gingerbread is a cookie dough. Yeah. I think gingerbread is a cookie dough. Yep. I think gingerbread is a cookie dough.

I'm back on my podcast. He lays claim and ownership. Yeah, I know. I am so tired of people coming into my interpersonal space and going, Hey, Will, will stream 12 hours a day, bro. Anyway, I'd like to introduce our guest of the week.

Will Neff is here. This is ridiculous. Can we unpack something really quick? I think this is important. We were talking about this in the kitchen and I think that a song, you don't tell will that you love him enough that's true so i agree and i think he's valid and i want you to look at him and i want you to tell him how you really feel about him as a friend now surprise this is the relationship counseling on the yard

do you guys have someone who needs to be babied and like told all the time that you love them i think it's actually it's me i was gonna say i think it's slime yeah slime will sit there and he'll be like guys guys, listen up. This week, I'm precious still, right? Yeah, I do. I need reassurance. Because Ludwig, as Cutie can attest, sometimes is a little closed off. He is.

And you need to draw out that from him. You know, the number one conversation Ludwig and I have to have is I say, hey, Lud, just so you know, I need you to ask me every day how I am. And he's like, oh, okay. How are you, you will there we go fine no will we don't do that here we don't do that yeah yeah good job you tell him what you really think now i'm fine oh how do you really think how do you really feel i don't know there's some really great movies in theaters right now maybe Maybe we can go to one someday. I want to go watch Avatar on Sunday. Avatar?

Spit in my face. What about The Menu or The Whale? I want to see both of those. Brendan Fraser is back. I want to watch Avatar. You want to see it? I do. I definitely want to watch Avatar.

Wow, a sweetie experience. My dad took me to Jimmyimmy kimmel and we had to listen to the producer the more you talk about it the worse i'm feeling about my the sad thing about andrea she wasn't even born when the first one came out memory of watching avatar in theaters when it came out, but I'm guessing it was the second. See, I told you it's going to be hard. I told you. This is all the time I have the problem. Why don't we trade?

I'm always the one who needs the mic away from me. I'm an expert. No, don't let me shit on Avatar. Avatar will be fine. Avatar is going to be great. It'll be a great movie. And the first movie was a banger too. James Cameron's awesome.

Andrea, as my co-marriage counselor, who do you think is in the wrong here? What do you think they can do to fix their relationship? Well, so Hassan did invite Will to Valorant, but he raids Will, so I think it's even. Wow. Yeah, just buy me off. Okay, first of all, I did not invite Will to Valorant, but I know that he doesn't like playing Valorant that much. And the last time I invited you,

the last time I invited you, you literally gave like a, I don't know about that man, type of fucking answer. So it led me to believe, okay, Will doesn't want to play Valorant. He's only doing it for me. So I'm just not going to invite him.

I think I was probably midstream. Yeah. Well, that's when I'm playing Valorantant which is why i don't when i don't ask that's the reason because you're doing like react content yeah who knew communication solved the issue this is beautiful they just had to talk about it okay but that but like we're we're literally admitting that like i i knew what i was doing i would also like more oral sex there we go that you can't have wow gatekeeping it what is what else is lacking in your relationship yeah you need to work for that one i'm gonna hey i don't mean to turn this into a real moment but oh i'm not ready for the oral sex wasn't the real moment no here's what i'll say oh this life has given me so much i cannot believe by fortune to be a streamer

i make a ton of money i get to do very fun things but one thing i have lost is my best friend my access to hassan is extremely limited the reason i do this podcast is to get a chance to hang out with him and in the last 10 or in the last three years of our 10-year friendship we have now hung out more on stream than we have in person that's fair that's valid that slime has the same problem that's just that's like oh you know i know i know exactly what you're going through yeah i lost my best friend to streaming too i miss her so much honestly i doing the podcast with ludwig is the one time i get to actually sit down and talk with

him and i understand what you're saying will and that's how it goes sometimes and i don't fault you or anyone for that it's just some days i'm like man i remember the days when we would bribe our way into a nightclub with a pie of pizza. Yeah, I mean, I just, I also don't really go out that much anymore. That's another reason. That's also true. Lost to streaming and age. Is this what's going to happen to my sister and I?

To be separated? It's only going to be for content? Yeah, you will be the will in that relationship, and you will keep going out, and she will not. Yep. Are you more of a will or Hassan? She's a will. Okay. She's a will.

I mean, yeah, no, easily. Well, I was, I was definitely, I was definitely more like her when I was her age.

And you act like you're 50 years old. You're like 31. This body. I put a lot of will. I put a lot of 29. He is. He's older. he's older than me oh he's older than you see how surprised she is i mean that song just acts like he's like a

grandfather yeah i mean that's how i feel you know we're surrounded by children come on you can back me up on this i can i can back you up but i don't want to but because we're old boomers and balding yeah we have to stick together excuse me um sorry we talked about this earlier as well yeah i was getting roasted they're like yes you look really good bald no he said that i would never say that to a bald i would never say that to a bald okay hasan genuine question do you think the reason you feel so aged inside is just because out of everyone, you're streaming the most hours? Maybe.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. He just works so hard. The way I see it, the way I love doing this, I talked about this recently with a journalist who was interviewing me for something.

Flex, okay. Where I basically told him, like, I can shut off everything because streaming requires 120% of my attention. So like the moment I hit that start streaming button, everything else is quiet and I'm fucking in the zone. I'm tapped in.

I'm in the zone. I don't have to worry about anything. I don't have to worry about like things that are wrong. You're like me at Disneyland. Yeah. Yeah. My streaming is your Disneyland. Yeah, I love it. I'm built for it. I love. Yeah. I get it now. My streaming is your Disneyland. Streaming is your Disneyland. Yeah, I love it.

This is beautiful. I'm built for it. I love doing it. I genuinely enjoy it. I have that specific kind of mental illness that has made it so much fun for me. That's so lucky. You're lucky. But because of that, yeah, I do it for eight hours a day, six hours a day.

And then on top of that, I'm doing the podcast, scheduling all that stuff too. And then there's other obligations as well. So just i don't have time like i it's terrible and then i sleep and the other thing that makes me feel guilty is when i do get him out he's miserable that's not true we're gonna go out tonight i'm gonna be i'm not gonna be miserable no i'm not no i'm drinking. When I see you. You know that it's okay. That solves the problem. I'll drink. I'll drink. Don't worry. I promise.

See slime? Pull off the wagon. You know what it is, Tom? No, you drink too. You drink a little bit. I don't drink. What are you talking about? I drink too.

No, you do. You do. You drink. What are you talking about? No, you do. I've been sober for eight years. You were not drinking at the chess boxing event? No.

Dude, I had a drug problem. Okay, I was going to ask. No, you drank. Yeah. Look at this. That's typically what happens. I've told you this before. He's just like Ludwig.

This is fucked up. I'm taking this sweater off. Even though it looks incredible, it's so hot in your house. I thought you were just going to sit there shirtless. I could have sworn you were drinking scotch with me at the chest boxing event. No, Brother Bear was not. You went through some dark shit a few years ago. Yeah, it sucks.

Have you ever opened it? I've never really got into it, but it was Benzos. They're fun. Like Jordan Peterson! I'm the Jordan Peterson of this shit. Age-appropriate for you. I only ate meat, and I just loved Xanax and Valium.

It was great. Good for you for eight years strong. and Valium. So it was great. Oh, I'm glad to you. Good for you for eight years strong. Yeah. Again, yes. You look good bald. Good on you for not being fun anymore. No, I look slim.

I think you carry the yard. I think you're the best. Whoa. Clipping. I mean, I say that too. Whoa. How many episodes of The Yard have you watched? I've watched a couple.

I like doing my homework. Because, you know, we're thinking of a podcast. I like to see what it's like. Oh, so you want to see what the goats are doing? Oh, yeah. That's why she was watching us. I'm only saying because... I'm not going to lie.

I only watched this one because I had, like, mentally prepared for it. But The Yard, I watched it. We learned something interesting about The Yard. We learned something very interesting about the yard. What's up, bro? Can you say really you've never been a guest? Oh, yeah.

How does that make you feel? They hate women. Here we go. Marriage counselor round two. You know what? I think they have a lot of options for good guests. I think they just don't see

that I'm a diamond in the rough. Can we be honest? They don't see that I'm a diamond in the rough. Is that the only reason you want to join our podcast? Sh what wait i don't get it no wait i actually don't get it i actually don't get it wait what are you alluding to you your only reason for wanting to fear change the name change everything we will for you because we love you. Is to beat them? Yes. Oh, I don't think we can. I was going to say that, but I don't think that. Okay, okay, okay.

I love you two so fucking much. I really do. That's fucked up. I love you so much. I actually think there's potential. Tell them, cutie. Tell them why. Because we've had some talks about you guys.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, we could. We could do it, boys, together. We could. It would just take some time. And I just don't know. I don't know if the heart is there. My heart has always been here.

Bro, you haven't been here. Slima's been here more than you have. And like on accident. No, but actually, genuine question, like where do you go? Bitch! Let me give you an example of our scheduling process. It's bad. The last podcast we were supposed to do was around the fights.

And Hasan's like, yeah, dude, we'll just do it before the fights. We don't hear shit from him. And he's like, yeah, dude, we'll just go to the fight and do it after. And then he just leaves. No, we couldn't do it after. How am I supposed to schedule around that? No, no, no. You know what? We're coming back to the relationship issues.

No, look, here's the thing. Here's the thing, okay? I've told him I'll live in the house. That's not true. You're moving in? I will move into the house. This is moving faster than I thought. This is exciting.

What is happening? Yeah, you see the fear in his eyes? No, I mean, I'm fine with that. Fear in God in his eyes? No, I mean, I'm fine with you. Fear in God. I'm not ready. I mean, I'm fine with that. All right, we'll TV it. Best friends again.

Moving into Gallard. Shake his hand, God damn it. I don't think you need to move into my house to do the podcast. I'm selling my apartment. Farley's coming in, baby. I think this is the best solution we could come to. You do not have a say on this. You can't even control a microphone.

Excuse me. What do you mean? She's got soft skills. Don't do that. She knows what she's doing. She's a marriage counselor. That's true. Without me, you would have never solved the issue.

The unique thing about The Yard that this podcast could instinctively work on. Misogyny. They hate women. Maybe that's why the yard does better the yeah true they attract yeah we know where our bread is buttered guys well it's the continuity into it all right watch this watch this watch this one month commit to it february you move in i move in one month why don't we do January? Why are we waiting until February? Also, why is she- Because I need to get my shit in order. Why is she-

Because then it's going to be March. And you're like, actually, April. No, guys, I go skiing every fucking January, and I'm not going to miss that. That's fine. But the issue is, is Hasan and Ludwig are going to Japan in February. That's true. And that's going to be an issue. Well, he's coming to Japan in February as well.

We could do an episode in Japan. Wow. And then when we get back, we all move in together. That's exciting. Why is everyone moving in together? You're an asshole. Shut the fuck up. Everyone moves into his house.

We can stream us building a set. I would love that. We can stream you learning to love my dog. I love your dog already. Him. She has multiple animals. He talks about it. You don't love my dog?

No, I love... Wait, what do you mean? He looks like a dog hater. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I love dogs. What are you talking about? You do love dogs.

I just... Okay, so yeah, we'll get there. Sure. I'm a friend of all animals. Look at this. For all you listeners at home, look at me. Ready to commit. Okay.

I'll put a ring on it. You are talking big. Fear and wine move in week. No, no no wait now maya is involved what's happening continuity this is what i mean i know they're doing regular episodes i know listen sit your freaking ass down open those big ass ears the truth needs to come out right now shaming what i'm sorry your ears are normal size um uh that what they do is i just developed a new insecurity i didn't even know i had this you could use a couple you're all right you'll be all right since they're all friends and they all live separate lives and they come together each week it's the it's the powwow it's they're

listening you're listening and you know two weeks ago they were looking forward to checks boxing boxing they talk about it coming up and then it's the day before oh my gosh they're nervous in that episode and then it's the next day it's happened so there's continuity with their stories because they're living their lives and they're bringing it together a big issue that happens on this podcast is you get derailed by the guest you don't treat them like hey my new member andrea you treat her like hello andrea let's make this about you and let's be a little awkward now. They're saying we're too giving and we care about our guests too much,

whereas the yard doesn't. Correct. The yard says to their guests, you are one of us now. Take your pants off. You guys are like, all right, fine. Take your pants off. I'm wearing the skirt, so don't. It's a loophole.

She's beat the game. Beauty told me to do it. That's a benefit that they have and I think we could get there. I do. I think there's hope for us still.

That's beautiful. I'm saying move in week. Move in week. One week. Okay, that sounds insane. That'd be fun. We all live together

for one week. You sound like you're not down. You sound you're down. Hassan picked all of you under his roof. We're live together for one week. You sound like you're not down. You sound you're down. Hasan, take all of you under his wing. We're making cookies. Cookies. We're helping out on stream.

We do politics in the morning. We watch horror movies at night. Yeah, at night time. Obscure horror movies. I hate horror movies. One week together. Oh my God, I love that. It might work if we tell him we can stream 24-7.

Yes. On your channel. Yes. No, no, no. It doesn't have... We don't have to do all that. Okay. We don't have to stream 24-7 on your channel no no it doesn't have we don't have to do all that that's okay we don't have to stream 24 7 24 i i am like will thinks i have autism i don't think i have autism i'll just say this okay i i am very particular about like my regimen and you're habitual i feel

like if it breaks i I'll fall apart. So you don't want us to move in. And what you're telling me is like terrifying me a little bit. Like the moment that he said, the moment that he said horror films and you said 24 hour stream, I'm thinking like,

okay, but when do I have my unwind time? Like after streaming? Cause I need to watch like episodes. That's the horror movie. And now the whole exercise has come full circle. Notice who the barrier in the road is. Wait.

I think it's going to be a tough sell to tell people of this podcast that I'm the one preventing us from making more content because I've been on every episode. It's in your house. That's true. Yeah. I mean, we can do it at a different studio if we want to. Oh, we're good.

We'll figure it out. You know what, guys? But then we're going to run into limitations with like when we can make scheduling decisions on guests. We're live at 7.07 right now. What typically happens at 7? I stream. Basketball games.

So anytime that I want to do fear, I have to give up my shit. It's true, but sometimes I also, wait, first of all, I also shave off hours from my streaming to do it before or after my stream. Do you have an office day? You need one office day and that's when you do podcasts. What the fuck is an office day?

Like a day off. An offline day. Or if you have an offline day. We're moving in together. I've made the decision. Yeah, Will seems to be dead set on this and I think that's beautiful. Look, I think that you guys are figuring it out and you're coming together and I think you need to have a powwow and you need to put in effort.

These things don't work without effort. And Hasan and I will sleep in a bunk bed. Fun! You sleep in a bunk bed. And it's got little logs on it. It's like camp. Okay. Shit camp. That sounds awful. I'm going to be honest with you. That would be a really small and good for you.

I'm a 31 year old man. Okay. Here we go, man. There's so many habits that I've developed over the years that it would make me go crazy. See, okay. I can't tell if you guys are joking or serious because you all have roommates, Caroline, Ludwig, and you know. Yeah, she's my roommate.

Yeah. And what? Yeah, Ludwig is her roommate. I feel like you guys would genuinely be down to all lift. But I mean, Hasan. Yeah, I don't see it. I would do it for a week. I would do it for a week. I do it for a week.

I couldn't do it for more than a week. We can do it for a week. No, I'm down. If it's just going to be a week, I'm down. Go for a week. Except for we're going to change the name. The real takeaway is that everyone's wanting to try a little harder. And I think that's beautiful.

Well, I'm also sad because honestly, my goal of this year was to have a very successful female-ran podcast. And now I'm with boys. Yeah, but you're running the podcast. Yeah, you're the female running the podcast boys you're hurting the boys into the pen can i still hypothetically you know we can have the taylor swift power hour but question would it be an issue if perchance i join fear and full-time i'm i'm the i'm here every week no matter what rain or shine probably late sometimes but can i still do wine about it

i can have two podcasts is my question you want to be paulie have two podcasts i think it's bad for the brand to do two i think so i'm kind of with you too but i'm just it's bad for the brand to do too. I think so. I'm kind of with you too, but I'm just wondering. It's not as strong. It's not as expensive. I don't care about that because obviously I have another podcast with H3H3, but. He just doesn't care. You're not special.

You're just another one of his many podcasts. No, I mean, but this is like. Jesus Christ. This is like my podcast. You know what I mean? I see this as like the podcast that I care about. You know what I mean? The other one is like. That's cute. The other one is like. Oh, it like the podcast that I care about You know what I mean the other one is like

Oh it's just business No the other one is H3H3 I love them their family But like they do all the Leg work you know what I mean they do all the hard Stuff like the production the studio It's all it's all up to them You know what I mean they put in the fucking

Hours behind the scenes And I love that podcast but this is i feel like i'm doing legwork here it's different yeah it's ultimately a question of who's tricking out who who's in who's stable if you will i don't even know are you in h3 stable yeah yeah yeah for sure it's in your stable yeah well no i mean h3 and i no no no h3 and i have a podcast together though like ludwig i'm tricking him out yeah it's just business yeah yeah if i am i am the cripsies no he's not in my stable we have a podcast together like it's not the same if i'm in the stable i want to be a pony no that's that's not how this works.

There is no stable. If you're doing a podcast, we're all partners. For an episode of our podcast, I think we are all in agreement that we need to get you back on a horse. I mean, I'm down. I don't know what ranch is going to let... Sean used to ride horses. Professionally.

We're going to put him on a Clydesdale. Yeah, I think a Clydesdale is our only option. You see it. What do you mean? Who's that one dude with long, luscious hair in the world? Fabio. Yeah, it's like a Turkish Fabio. You like that?

No. That episode would absolutely go bananas. My haters used to call me Brown Fabio, though, which I always thought was weird because it was like, you're complimenting me. Yeah, that is funny. But they were racist, so they thought saying Brown Fabio, though, which I always thought was weird because it was like, you're complimenting me. Yeah, that is funny. But they were racist, so they thought saying Brown Fabio, who ironically is more brown than I am,

just by skin complexion. What did you do with horses? I used to be a professional show jumper. What? Am I being fucked with right now? No. Can you imagine that? No, there's photos of it. Look up Hasan Piker question and it'll come up on Google. How did you get into jumping for show just i had my my family was much wealthier when i was growing

up and then you know poof all that went away put him on a horse um and yeah they literally were just like look at that little guy should get him yeah oh my gosh but you did this in high school as like a little as a young yeah yeah yeah was this in high school as a little young kid? Yeah. Was this in Turkey or in... Yeah, in Turkey. That was Slime's idea. It was Horse Girls. Yeah, I thought Horse Girls was a really funny name. That's why Ludwig loves it so much.

Yeah, he loves anything Slime does. No, he didn't know I thought of that. Yeah, you were in the Discord group. Do you two ever feel like you guys need to, or do you compete for Ludwig's attention? No, no slime has the tattoo so he wins yeah i have a tattoo of ludwig's name on my ass like i i've won i don't need he's he's won we've already talked about ludwig's tattoo of yours have you guys ever experimented together sexually no i've seen his wiener a lot and his open butthole but who hasn't at this point?

Yeah, I was going to say. And that just speaks to. Does that make you upset that like he shared it with so many? No, because I don't. I'm not an ownership. Notice how I'm not asking QT these questions. I rank higher. I want to know.

I want to know your perspective is. Look, Ludwig, I've told this story before, but the first night I literally ever hung out with him, we were playing Mafia at a house because we all stayed together for a Smash tournament. And it was like seven of us, it was like AZ guys, SoCal guys, and we played Mafia.

And he did this thing where if he was a detective, he would show you his balls, basically. So it's like you wake up in the morning and he knows you're Mafia. Actually, sorry, he was moderating. And he would show you his balls because he knows you have to open your eyes and look at him so i saw his balls before like i talked to him pretty much wow that's did you see his balls no i didn't

no actually we know we know that we know that he was timid markedly reserved about showing his balls to Cutie at first. He was. Well, it's kind of not his fault because I did friend zone him for quite some time. I was like, I'm not dating a streamer. That sounds like an awful idea. Yeah. It'll probably lead to people. You also used to be more intimidating.

What? I think it was the dark hair. Yeah, you had black hair. No, your whole personality. No, I think your entire, like, I'm a crazy bitch and I'll kill you, ex-girlfriend personality on shows that you were appearing on. Personality, am I right? I mean, yeah.

Well, that's all we knew you as, though. Yeah, I played a bit of a Circe Lannister. People don't realize how talented I am, actually. I didn't. I just thought you were really mean to me. No, I'm sorry. I think I was filling a niche on the internet that no one else was brave enough to do.

Right. What made you transition from that cutie to this cutie, if that makes sense? Well, so I would only do that on shows. And the problem was, is I've seen people fail where they would act like a certain way on a show and then they'd go to their own stream and try to maintain it.

But there's no way to maintain that. So instead I'd use Austin's platform to drive people to my channel and then they just fell in love with me. That's true. The riz was just unbeatable. Because they'd first come in and they'd be like, oh.

Bronsley gameplay. They're like, this is my shit. This is the girl. Girl of my dreams. No, because they like, they'd first come in and be like, wait, you're not mean. This is the girl. Girl of my dreams. They'd first come in and be like, wait, you're not mean. It's actually very interesting. There's not that many strong personas that I remember, but Minx is an example.

I feel like on stream, she's pretty similar to the persona she played on Loverhost. I think that was very smart how you did that. Thank you. What was your first impression of Cutie? What was the first time we met, actually? I mean, it had to be on Lover. I mean, I was probably scared shitless on Lover.

Were you on Loverhost? No way. I mean, yeah. I just think she hated me, and she's mean and scary. I don't feel like, I feel like it was better, actually. What about your first impression of Cutie? Mine was actually great. It was, her and Ludwig had like just started talking

and I remember at the time I had broken up with somebody and it was like, it was fine. It was just like mutual breakup, but she, Ludwig told her that because they were just talking

and then she got me an edible arrangements like fruit basket. Just has like a nice, she barely knew me. I just remembered the first time we met. It was so nice. Fruit baskets are perfect. Like edible arrangements are perfect because they're, like, kind of funny.

Yeah. Yeah. But they're also, like, I'll eat a pineapple. Yeah, I did. And I was like, this is so nice. She doesn't even know me. So that was great. I can be nice.

What about your first impression of Will and myself? I think it was when we just moved to LA. Or maybe before that. But that's kind of my first memory. I think, like, Will took us out. We had a great time time hasan went to bed at like 10 p.m oh wow that's crazy you guys were very friendly and especially like you know hasani is easy to shit on and stuff but you're actually very nice in person which it's just not what you expect because you're always getting shit on. Yeah.

So you think that you'd be more intimidating? Like, hashtag cancel Hasan shit on is what she means. I just don't know. I mean, it's kind of... One of my first memories of you was your sister and you invited me to be on a chess dating show. Oh, God.

Do you remember this? You were great. You killed it. You were the star of the show. They asked me to be on a chess dating show. They never mentioned that we would play chess. That's funny. You were like, we want you to be on a chess dating show. They never mentioned that we would play chess. That's funny.

We want you to be on a dating show. Really? Yes. You said we want you to be on a dating show. When it's chess. It's not implied. You have to say the word chess. Yeah, no, I think we just, that's kind of our brand.

We trick people into playing chess, thinking they're doing something more fun. Sounds awful. So I get to the dating show, and they're they're like okay you're gonna be playing chess now and i was like i've never played chess in my life i swear we told you so so so they assure me they're like don't worry you'll lose in the first round somehow i win that's exciting because i'm up against someone who's equally as shitty at chess real quick what, what's the format? You didn't put them against IMs or whatever. He was on a team with another person.

It was like Yasso. He was pretty good. One person who's actually cracked. And then I don't remember who the other one was. But three games of chess later where I'm literally just blindly moving pieces. I have never felt so naked. Did you win the game? He had a team member shouting moves at him

and he would make the moves. Yeah. And like, yeah, and then I think they threw in like one move, but he did very well considering he had absolutely no idea how to play. That's so funny. I really, I thought we included the chess.

I was surprised you even said yes. I can't remember when we met. I do. I was very new to streaming and we were just it was when pogchamps was starting like chess was right when the pandemic began and chess was getting viral and we did a hand and brain match with you and ludwig oh my sister i remember now yeah i remember yeah yeah i was like damn the right women do suck at chess just kidding damn i'm pretty good though

from the jump i was like no chess for me you did grind for pogchamps I do remember that I was grinding she was crushed when she lost I cried a little bit damn

so I I remember seeing that and I'm like alright she's a fucking gamer cause I was like she's tried really she's trying really hard and she's taking her loss hard

that sounds that sounds a lot like her league gameplay yeah I literally have a coach in league and everyone you have a coach I have a coach in league. You have a coach? I have a coach.

What? It doesn't show. I know. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Fire the coach. Get a new one. It's not working.

It's not his fault. I'll be honest. But it's a... Are you just not... You're uncoachable? Is that what you're saying? I'm so bad. Are you grinding off line?

No, this is my issue, is when I play league, I zone out. I treat it as my zone out, but I would like to be better. So the coach will literally be like, you're not listening, and I'll be like, huh?

Just play support. And I'm not. No. Ew. Here's the problem with support, is when I first got in the league scene, I would go to events, and people would be like,

oh, do you play support? Because I'm a girl and i was like fuck that it's like playing peach and smash if you're a girl everyone assumes you play peach and you're like fuck you i do play peach and smash it's sad though because like you kind of fulfilled the meme now though well no are you a pick me league girl what does that mean you know what that means no it's like when you're like. I'm good. It's a pejorative thing. It's not a nice thing. I was making a joke, but it's like, I'm not like other girls.

I play mid. I play ADC. I like playing ADC, for the record, to my detriment. Don't you play Jinx? Yeah, but if I was a pick-me girl, I'd play Jungle. Okay. Because that's rough and tough. That's my territory. That's my territory.

That's my shit. I'm not like the other girls. I play jungle. I am better at league than people think I am. You are good at league. Do you guys all play league? I do not. I think it's disgusting.

I think it should be banished. League is, I think, not banned, banished. Pounds a pound, dollar for dollar, still the best competitive game. I agree. That's the dumbest shit anyone's ever said in their life. Okay, coming from a Smash guy.

Yeah, I was gonna say, you like Smash, though. I play Melee, you pussies. Oh, I'm sorry, what franchise is that from? Nintendo. Dude, dude, dude, dude. Smash. Dude, it's most notable for the smells, okay? Dude, dude, dude, dude. He has nothing.

Get it all out. Get it all out. I will say, I think Melee is a very good competitive game. I do. I really do. I think it's a very fun game. But at the highest level, you're essentially breaking the game to be good at it, right? No. You just think that. What's a wave dash?

What's a wave dash? You literally just slide into the ground. How? How do you wave dash? You literally just slide into the ground. How? How do you wave dash? You air dodge into the ground. You air dodge into the ground. Yeah. Is this hard to understand?

Will, meth? No, it's very easy to understand. I just think a lot of the mechanics that now are commonplace in Melee were not mechanics that they intended at the inception of the game. Yeah, and that's been a big problem. Because the competition has gotten so high level

so it's not even like approachable anymore. No, it's like crack. You don't get it. Even bad players can like experience the delicious crack that is Melee. I love Melee. I do. I'm just saying in terms of balance

being able to go in every time on my computer and just find like a decently ranked match, League is infinitely better than me having to bring my fucking game cube to a tournament. Some of us work. Some of us work for our crack, but I get it. There's a layer of friction and you make a lot of sense,

but man, and then when I get there, me, who's decent at melee, we'll get his shit pushed. Yeah. For like two years. Yes. Yeah. So, so that's not Melee, will get his shit pushed in. Yeah, for like two years. Yes.

Yeah. So that's not a... Sorry I'm hardcore. I'm sorry about it. Yeah, I mean, yours is mass-produced crack for sure, which is why I think it should be banned and banished. I also think it's funny. We're talking about being the best gamer

when you're right here and you're a high-ranking fucking chess player. I've zoned out in the last five minutes. Can I ask you, what are you the best at that isn't chess? No, I'm not good at other games. No, but there's got to be something. You're good at beat that ass, though. Which is a good segue into what we were supposed to talk about today.

It's okay. I like hearing your guys' little chats. Our little gamer chats. So patronizing. I did beat some ass. But chat. Our little gamer chats. So patronizing. We did. I did beat some ass. But she's my good friend now. Tell me about it.

We've made amends. I mean, it was great. I had six weeks to train for it. Took it very seriously. Yeah, we could tell. You had insane cardio. It was actually shocking. I've never seen this.

You literally did the street fighter like warming yeah stance yeah you were literally bouncing but that was my that's what i had prepared but that's insane you're not supposed to do that you're like literally exhausting yourself for no reason but you still never got gas i mean okay because real because it's 90 seconds three rounds i knew even by the end of the third round like i'm not like i was sparring with like pro fighters and we do 10 rounds yeah you're the first time we did like two minutes i'm way more than 98 pounds but no i had like yeah that honestly um i had prepared to be moving the weight of my feet so i could go on the strong punches but since she didn't fight back that was ineffective it was really sick but in a professional fight that's you want to i mean

you know i don't look professional but i'm trying to get that no you did i think you're slowly learning for six weeks who are you calling out next well uh who i'm fighting well i actually have one in the works but it's it's really difficult so my goal with that chess boxing fight was to like make an impression on people in like the other boxing world and like started talking like misfits boxing like actually relevant boxing no no no it's like i use i use just like i want i want them let me say chess boxing especially to the chess community was like really meaningful to a lot of people and i think it was a great event and obviously really entertaining but i mean i wanted a fitness challenge And I didn't have the time to commit to something full on.

So it was a really good segue. But 100%, like obviously the event was a hit. But I would like to do like a real just full on fight. If you could fight anyone, historical figure, celebrity, Jesus Christ, who would it be? Who would you take in the ring? If I felt nothing, I would fight my sister because I think it'd be the most entertaining. But I love her too much and I can't. But I think that would be super entertaining.

She's also way too tall. Do you think you could beat her ass, though, regardless? I mean, if we weren't related. But, of course, she's taller than me. Yeah, I think the height is an issue. Yeah, I think Alex walks. Well, actually, that's not true. Yeah.

If I think about that, I don't know how much she weighs. I see where you're going. But I'm pretty sure the weight difference Is the same as like Me and my next boxing opponent Yeah Like we could get with That's like everybody Wants me to fight Hasan

And I figured out That we would have He would have to lose 30 pounds And I would have to gain 30 Yeah Yeah

And that would be You'd be looking like Squidward When he found out He likes to grab your face What's the height difference Between you guys Uh Six four

So It was six I guess that makes sense I guess it's a six inch difference five inch difference okay good my next opponent's like four inches and she has to put on a lot i have to but yeah that's four inches taller or shorter she's shorter whoa four inches shorter where do you find her um what the fuck what is she five one is this what are you um i'm five six she's five two oh my god yeah um And she'd have to put on like 7 pounds I'd have to lose like 7

But it's doable But she's like a very Oh I guess it's not formal So I can talk about it But Michelle Correa You guys know Michelle Oh Michelle

Oh yeah My old Buzzfeed friend Oh you guys worked at Buzzfeed together Wait who is it? Michelle Carr She's dangerous Yeah She's dangerous

Dude she used to be a professional cyclist I know Yeah that would be a together. She's dangerous. She's dangerous. Dude, she used to be a professional cyclist. Yeah, that would be a good fight. She's in insane shape. She's like a solo tri guy. I'm not going to lie. Wait, how do you spell her last name? She might kill me. She couldn't find the three-girl-aligned-along-one.

K-H-A-R-E. No, she's cool. She does a lot of challenges. We've been talking about it. We haven't put anything in the works, so I'm not leaking anything yet. Sure. But she's the girl we love to get to be doing.

No, she... Shouts out. I mean, her living, she makes YouTube videos or she picks up hobbies. Yeah, and she used to do stunt work. Yeah. Oh, she's gonna fucking kill you.

Oh, no. She's really... She used to do stunt work. And she's a professional cyclist. Oh, dude. Oh, no. Hey, I believe in you, Andrea. Yeah, somebody please back me up. I mean, look, I have the weight advantage. That's really about it. Professional cyclist Oh dude Oh no Hey I believe in you Andrea Yeah Somebody please

Back me up I mean look I have the weight advantage That's really about it I think you're also hungry And that matters a lot too I mean I think we're In a similar shape

Like funny enough We went on a hike together Which I need to stop Befriending all of my Boxing opponents Because it's counterproductive But like we went on A hike together

And like I honestly think We're in pretty similar Fitness levels Except I'd have to cut some more pounds. Who do you hate that you'd want to fight? Well, they're not women. Got them. Of course they're not.

Hey, welcome to Horse Girls, everyone. What's your name? Martin Screlly. I don't hate anybody. I don't hate anyone. Just think the controversy. Not the controversy. Actually.

Say it. I don't think she should. I don't think she should. I know who it is. I'm definitely not controversy actually say it i don't think names say names i'll say i think if women could fight men i think you'd be really good if i just fought like another it's not illegal chess you like that hikaru or gotham chess but you versus hikaru would be a fight of the century fight of the the century. Maybe I could take it. I'm front row with a mink on. But yeah, unfortunately, that can never happen. I feel like Hikaru washes you, though. Slime, take your shot.

I don't know. I think I have the stamina and the energy. Who would you fight? Who would I fight? Yes. In general? Because you're going to fight eventually. Dave Grohl.

Dave Grohl? What? Why did you come up? You had that in the chamber. Why? He's not Dave Grohl. It? Why did you come up? You had that in the chamber. Why? He's not Dave Grohl. It's a new thing. Who's Dave?

It's not a new thing. It's not a new thing. He's trying to be cool. He's ubiquitously the best liked man on the planet. No, he's not. The Foo Fighters fucking suck. No, I know. I don't disagree with your take.

Listen to me. We got to inform the people at the table who don't know who Dave Grohl is. I don't even disagree with what you're saying. I'm shocked that it's Dave Grohl. Dave Grohl is former drummer of Nirvana with Kurt Cobain and then eventual lead singer of Foo Fighters.

She's going to say, what's Nirvana and we're going to die. No, I wasn't going to say that, Hasan. What do you have against Dave? It's a great question, Andrea. Let me start by this. He has an amazing drumming career. I play the drums.

You said that sarcastically. No, I mean it. He's been in bands, live shows. He's been on recordings that are insane. He's a very accomplished drummer. And then he went and made the worst fucking band of all time. And for that, he must go down. I am going to say this out loud.

He was on Them Creepy Vultures. There was a worse answer to who do you want to fight. That is the worst answer. Yeah, it's so weird. Put me in the fucking ring. That is the most. There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.

He's too white for. He's going to like Foo Fighters. No, no, no. Foo Fighters ubiquitously sucks. It's literally American Nickelback, dude. Thank you. It is. It's on base.

It's American Nickelback, and I agree with. It is. It is. I love Nickelback. It's American Nickelback, and I agree with everything you're saying. And I'm still surprised. I cannot wait to read the comments, because you're going to be eaten alive. Yeah. I'm not going to be eaten alive. You're going to be eaten alive. Because real ones know. Real ones are known.

No one thinks this. Sam, the guy that toured with Queens and Sonia in 2002 has the shittiest band ever known. That's crazy. Okay, what about his appearances in Tenacious D as the devil? That's fine. That's great. He likes everything but Foo Fighters.

The problem is that the Foo Fighters suck so bad that he shits all over it. Delirious. I'm not delusional. I kind of understand why you want to

fight Dave Grohl now. Thank you so much. I feel valid and seen. Even though I was surprised originally. Okay, who would you guys fight?

Let him cool down. Who would you fight? Ben Shapiro. Oh, you would fight Ben Shapiro? That's easy. You would snap his neck Ben Shapiro. Oh, you would fight Ben Shapiro? That's easy. You would snap his neck like a rabbit.

But that's a good one. That's a good one. It'd be funny. It's a good one. I would love to see that. I'd pay literal, actual, a lot of money to see that. That'd be a great fight. Even more than Destiny.

I'm trying to think who else would be like your... Oh, I would never even be around that man. I guess there's... Yeah. What about you, Cutie? I'm trying to think i really am excited for cuties i don't know my i know give us some tea uh uh claire from bon appetit oh fuck claire i told you i got her i got her for christmas i got her a uh claire's dessert person book

fucking and she was like this is really nice but i fucking hate claire i'm like my fault og i didn't know yeah i didn't mean claire's claire's a bitch why john mayer you would fight john mayer i would fight john mayer i i think uh well the issue is my brain goes like like logically and i'm like oh like so that was my biggest thing is watching minx fight and creator crash minx and minx and i are very close to the same height like same height almost same like we're within 10 pounds of each other already and i was like i would would die. Like, which is crazy. Cause I can be very competitive.

Yeah. So Alex and I are close in height and size. Probably. Oh, I don't, I don't think I could fight Alex. He hates boxing. You are ferocious.

I know. That's the thing. I think a lot of people don't realize is like, I would kill someone if I had to like without hesitation. People realize that. They say that a lot about you. That's pretty much what Andrea said about meeting you for the first time. I know.

So I think, I'm like, oh, maybe I would be killed by Jax. Where did you get the idea? Maybe I wouldn't. Where did you get the idea that people don't say that about you? Well, you know. I think in unison we're more shocked that you said that you're not ferocious. Well, I think people think like, I'm just chill, you know? No one thinks that.

Where did you get that idea? What? Not what I was expecting. Really? Okay. Chill is like seven zip codes away from manically grips herself. That's weird. People think I'm fucking chill.

I'm fucking chill you know the only thing that genuinely bought the only time like a a lady so i can't even say whomst because it would cause drama but like ladies that slide on ludwig i'll take you in the ring that's an easy i'll take you in two seconds yeah name one anyway. But air that bitch out. I'm surprised anyone has the balls to slide on Ludwig's. Knowing you are chill. I'm surprised anyone would slide on Ludwig. That is me. I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. He's very handsome. I would slide on Ludwig. But yeah. He looks like Guile from Street Fighter. Big yeah, I think. He looks like Guile from Street Fighter. He has blonde, big ass hair. Me?

No, Ludwig. Oh, I forgot. Dude, I loved it. I loved it. Ludwig is so outside of the scope of like an athletic person in our minds that he thought you were talking about him. That's really funny. He's buff.

Ludwig. No, he's been lifting for a long time. He's really strong. We give Lud too much shit he gets very upset which i think lud is handsome he also has the most insane ass of a man like and a chest hole it's in a chest hole yeah but um everybody's got it who would you fight you're the last person i mean good fight they're not someone i. Just someone I'd like to fight. I think battle of the internet good guys, Markiplier and I. Oh, wow.

Markiplier would kill you because he has access to baby blood and adrenochrome. But that's the thing. I need to lose that fight for the sake of the nation. You can't beat Markiplier. No, bro. He's too nice. You can't beat Markiplier. No, bro. He's too nice. You concuss Markiplier? Yeah, that ruins you.

No, that ruins him. I'd play the villain. People would hate him after that. This is crazy. Me and Caroline are close to the same size. That'd be a good fight. We could fight. Someone I dislike that I would fight.

Yeah. Who could I fight that I dislike that would be good? Amaranth, you hate her. No. He just takes her down. While you're thinking secret lore, was that Will and Myth were supposed to be the big fight? Yeah, I've talked about this.

Okay, yeah. Because I remember that way back. I'll talk about this in full first of all that was that was presented me by both fighting organizations they you guys and greater clash both okay both wanted me to fight ali and i sat on it a while and i really didn't want to fight ali because i i love the kid and then i talked to ali and his reflex was like, I'd rather fight someone else. Oh, interesting. So we both kind of agreed

that like we wouldn't want to fight. Now I lucked out because little did anybody know Ali was going to fucking turn into Muhammad Einhardt Bruce Lee and fucking hit the Ali shuffle having never watched an Ali fight. I was so money, bro.

Did you hear he's never watched an Ali fight? Yeah. That was just him on reflex. It's just in his bones. He's just, yeah. That's an actual boxing shuffle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought he was just-

No, Muhammad Ali used to do a lot of what he did. Oh, I was surprised. I didn't think it actually helps the boxing. Even, it's not. It's for reflex. No, it's a flex. It's a showboating, yeah. Oh, okay, yeah.

It's like taunting. He taunted a lot. He taunted when he did the swing, too. Also, his opponent was like a last minute Phil. Like, no offense. Who had a chin? She was incredibly. Which was crazy.

He outperformed. Charlie was dope. He was amazing. That's the first part of that. Now, the second part is, Lud came back to me and was like, we'll find you a different opponent. And I was like, oh, great.

And the day that Lud came back and was like, you have to basically sign your intent, was the day I had a panic attack. Oh, shit. And to basically sign your intent was the day I had a panic attack. And it was the first and only time I've had a panic attack. And it was because I went into a show that I was supposed to do with Twitch and we were a week to air and they didn't have a set and they didn't have costuming and they didn't have any idea and they didn't have any segments. The only thing that they had done was sell an hour of ads against a two-hour show.

And almost all of them were American Eagle. And the motto was, I think it was, young and fit. And I looked at them and I was like, what about me? Says American Eagle. So I literally, week to air, left this meeting, and I had a full-blown like, I can't do this. I don't have time to do this. I can't do this.

And I called- You had a lot going on on there. I had a lot. This is when I had G4. This is when I was- 100 Thieves stuff too. 100 Thieves stuff. I was doing a ton of shit.

So I called my manager. But you couldn't do the podcast. I was like, I got to pull out of this. So 20 minutes after I had that conversation, I got a call from Ludd. And he's like, hey, bud, we need you to commit today. And I'm like, Ludd, out of this. So 20 minutes after I had that conversation, I got a call from Lud, and he's like, hey, bud, we need you to commit today. And I'm like, Lud, I gotta be honest with you. I had a panic attack 20 minutes ago.

I can't commit to this. Now. And he was like, you're dead to me. No, he was so gracious and so nice. And I would be happy to do chest boxing in the future. You can tell Lud. Would you do like creator clash if you had an opponent? If it wasn't Ali. Dude, you you're just afraid and that's cowardly i am afraid of ali but beyond that i i don't know i've always had a very he knows i i like a very weird almost like i would

call it parasocial attachment to him where like he really does feel like a young ali is our child no he's not just our friend he's our child that's that's what i'm saying he feels like my little brother in so many ways it's funny i feel the same way about him yeah like and for me to go in there and just beat the fuck out of him i see well i think that makes sense he i mean the first time he did anything like literally physical was with us during covid yeah and i was like bro you have an insane frame like what the fuck are you doing I mean, the first time he did anything, like, literally physical was with us during COVID. Yeah. And I was like, bro, you have an insane frame.

Like, what the fuck are you doing? You're just, like, wasting it playing video games. And then he went home and he was like, Cassandra just kept talking about my frame and how beautiful it was. Fucking weird. Kept trying to measure my skull. No, at the time people were, like, saying, like, oh, that's, like, weird, dude. You're saying, like, a black dude is, like, genetically gifted. Like, I was like, no, dude, I know what a fucking athlete looks like he's built like

sauce gardener yeah he's like tall and his wingspan lanky his wingspan of a six foot four person yeah he's like he he is an incredible wingspan and also he was like relatively coordinated too which he demonstrated i think on on that ring. But that's the full sauce behind the boxing. I'm going to be honest. It is something that I felt for probably two weeks afterward. I felt tremendous guilt about having to say no to Ludwig. Everyone backs out. I've never felt guilty about that.

Let me tell you. I think it's very fair. That's not me. I never back out of things. And I have so much respect for what lud does and his and his product that i was just like damn man i i let him down no don't worry he's incapable of feeling let down now that's that is not true that's not true he it is hard to get his uh to get his emotional core though it's getting harder and harder even though

he has a chest hole what what's up so the more he moguls up the more the harder it is you think just he it's yeah he always i have i wonder that i wonder that a lot what's up i've thought about that a lot in general about ludwig yes this is actually this is literally something i've thought about i'm like he's way too fucking nice like he is way too confident i think no i think he's a very nice person i love him i love him to death beautiful human but i'm always like he's he can't be this confident no he is so way back in the day when he was like he's like a loo viewer andy it's not aloofness he just has like a brain that was kind of built for like i remember i asked him once like doesn't it piss you off when like youtube comments are fucking mean to you like doesn't that get to you he's like no i'm like how he's like i don't know

they probably just like want to be my friend like they're they're probably really nice in person and i'm like that's crazy yeah that's crazy he is his mind is literally a fortress built for being big it's it's really interesting i've thought about it a lot as someone close to him i think i'm on the opposite too i was i was built for it in the opposite way because I love seeing the nasty shit. That's crazy. Yeah. I look at it, but I don't like looking at it, but I do look at it. I look at it so much.

It's like picking a cut. No, literally. I'm like, it's a scab. Exactly. I say reading TikTok comments is like my new self-harm. No. You know? I do it so much.

I do it so much. Dude dude it is like misogynistic racist transphobic i'm like what like they're inventing new phobias over there for me i'm like fucking shit i didn't know i had all these things in me but i love it yeah i i think i'm the same wait like there's just human nature like yeah that's the i want to read more into that weird thing about ludwig is that he's weird because it's like he's had years of therapy, but he hasn't because it's like something like, oh, I learn about projecting now.

And it's like, well, Slime probably hates Dave Grohl because he never wrote You Are My Hero. Oh my God. Wow. Dave Grohl is really funny. Hey, I have a question I want to ask about Chadwick. That was cutting. I have a question I want to ask about Chetney. That was a good deflection. That was cutting.

I have a question I want to ask about. I think it's a shit song. It doesn't hurt me. It's a shit song. No, no, no. That was a joke. That was a joke. But Ludwig sees the way people are mean or whatever,

and he's just like, yeah, they're just not happy with themselves. And literally. It's like obviously, but still. That is true. But it still hurts. Yeah, but it's just weird that he's so good at talking himself out of going down any sort of... Rabbit hole.

Yeah. I have a question I want to ask about this, but I want to put it behind the paywall because it's a little spicy. Well, guess what? It's actually time for that anyway. Regardless, thank you guys so much to our wonderful guests. Thank you for watching, everybody.

Where can people find all of you, please? You can find me on BoTezLive. I play chess a lot. I recently just boxed. Had a great fight with her. Her name was Dina. So you'll see me around. Yeah, she hit you a lot harder than I thought.

Yeah. Well, I don't. She knocked the weave right off my head. Yeah. It's crazy. What about you? You look great. Thank you. Thank you. No. Yeah. The guests today were really great. I think Will Neff was the guest. Just going to load that up. all right no she's got daggers um i'm kitty cinderella and i'm not a host of this yet she's lying hey i'm will neff i've been fucking usurped as a host go follow my youtube and i'm hassan piker and if you want to check out the more juicy stuff behind the paywall that is going to be at patreon.com slash fear and so juicy oh we are gonna get nice with it it's like a steak and it's juicy steak yeah juicy steak are we behind the wall all right see you next time bye bye you know you gotta share wow my colon is great like if it's like one big long log you gotta

I still have to ask after you refused to mush the poo were you dropped from the frat no he made it in I think they appreciated the moxie when it pokes out of the water yeah like a long yeah if it's like a long one

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