Fear& - Hasan Piker And Tarik Do A Mukbang (Turkish Food) | Fear&Valarante Baby Gaem

Episode Date: September 14, 2022

This week we flew out to NYC to meet up with Turkish brother and content creator powerhouse Tarik, no Will because this all happened super last minute hence the delayed release. Pretty chill one this week where the boys do a Turkish food Mukbang and talk about life, content creation, predatory esports orgs and a crumb of politics.🎉BONUS CONTENT🍾 🌟PATREON - https://www.patreon.com/FearAnd🌟TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@fearandtiktok🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS - https://linktr.ee/fearand🐥follow our guest!🐤Tarik: https://twitter.com/tarik🐤follow the boys!🐥Fear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPodHasan: https://twitter.com/HasanthehunWill: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeffMarche: https://twitter.com/Marche Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's going on everybody? We're back with another episode of fear and and let me tell you something okay this is unheard of we have a guest that notoriously refuses to go on podcast oh shit put me on the spot notoriously refusing to go on podcast but we had to get him we had to get him for the fear and audience that's right the man The man, the myth, the legend Tadek in the building. Good to be here. Um, I do turn down a lot of people, but you know, I made an exception for you.

Thank you. My fellow Turk. And I wanted to, you know, show him some support and this is my way of doing it. Yeah. I was like, bro,

we're struggling. I was like, we're, we're struggling on the numbers. We need to hit the Valo community a little bit. We need to, yeah, you've got to tap into a new market.

Yeah, we got to figure it out. And I was the guy for the job, I guess. Hell yeah. And I told him, like, don't you wear fucking pants. You got to look real slutty. I know. He's got the hair hanging out the sides. I think you're doing a better job than me.

I got the slut strands going. I'm opened up. We're in your casa. I know, dude. On top of it all, I was like, dude, you got an office in New York or something? He's like, no, we got a shoot in your... I'm like, okay. Yeah, no, I actually had a podcast studio that...

No, I booked a podcast studio, but I knew that this would be easier for us to do it together because like... I'm fucking around. It's way better for me, too. I don't have to go anywhere. I want it to be as easy for you because, bro, this guy, okay, I'll just say it. Oh, no, he's going to roast me. He's going to roast me. I don't know. He's like, I don't want to... Dude, I don't know. I don't have to go anywhere i wanted to be as like easy for you because bro this guy okay i'll just say it oh i'll just say he's like i don't want to dude i don't know i don't do podcast bro like i i hate that and i was like i'm not a podcast guy and we had never like actually talked to one another like all that long before until we met for the first yesterday last night

yeah i met him last night and then yeah like you've been watching your brother's been watching me like our brother knows about you from from your political commentary stuff but i don't really know apart about about about you apart from twitch yeah i'm into your stream every now and then but i found you a long time ago actually yeah speaking of what yeah toddock and fun fact for those of you who don't know literally uh one of my oldest subs like continuous oldest subs you're like a 40 month subscriber i know i've been showing love yeah and it was like when he had like no viewers and like yeah i had like 35 years but he was like a total he's still a boomer but he's a total boomer back then now he knows now he knows the lingo yeah at least yeah he's been yeah i've been i've been

pog champion and uh yeah he's been but it's funny when he says they're like you don't expect this guy to pogchamp no no not at all i i don't actually i still rarely ever use uh emotes when i'm talking in real life like that's that's the worst thing you could do man that's my fear actually i stream so much rechat so much that when i go into an irl interaction i say something like kappa bro i'll fucking die i'm already saying irl interaction even irl itself no irls no oh in real life bro that's like that's like that's like that's like normie shit though everyone says irls now know what irl is but like originally like highest tier normies like the most norman people the real normans they don't even fucking know what i when you say irl you're like what what the fuck the the fuck's ro is that because their whole life is in real life bro they're never online that's true

they have a word for the other side like oh i i did that online the dark web is what they call it probably that's probably what they that we stream on the dark web hey they don't even fucking know what what's happening here but yeah we wanted to we wanted to to get in touch with our turkish roots i told todic like i'm i'm not gonna know, ask any fucking hardball questions or anything like that. Don't worry. I think you thought, what did you think? You thought we were going to do all politics or something? I mean, I actually didn't know.

I asked him last night because he was asking me about coming on. I'm like, what's the agenda? To be honest, I don't want to do it. I told him straight up, like, I don't. And then I was like, okay, I'm going to do it as a favor for you. And he said, you know, it's not politics. It's just politics it's just chill we just shoot the shit talk about whatever so i'm like fuck it it'll probably be pretty easy

but i yeah i'm gonna do that right now yeah so listen um for those of you like everybody knows who you are on the twitch space but like i have an audience that's very different um like your brother and other people so uh give us give us a little bit of background like what do you do to those who are watching who not know who Totic is? Yeah so I'm born and raised in Brooklyn, New York. I've lived here my whole life um basically I'm doing full-time content creation right now on Twitch, YouTube, all that stuff. But previous to this, I was a competitor on professional esports teams for Counter-Strike. I've been on like six different teams. I competed for about seven or eight years. And I was just playing pro, kind of crazy traveling the world

going to events, competing. I've been to like probably like 25 countries at this point. And I did that for a very long time. I went pro early. So after high school, I basically signed my first contract. No college, just moved to Cali, gaming house. And then from there, just took off. And I've been doing that since. And then recently, this past year, I'm doing content creation. So now I'm like basically doing what you do,

obviously in a completely different section, category. I do the gaming side more. You're more know react dandy political commentary all this stuff everything um but i i play just you know fps shooters mainly like valorant or counter-strike and counter-strike was the game that i was pro in but i play valorant now because it's it's like the new would you ever go pro in valorant um i don't think it's really in the cards just because i don't want to like you know go back and forth i want to just stay in one lane and commit to what i'm doing um so it's not really something i'm trying to pursue at the moment it's a question i get all the time because obviously people see the skill yeah people see the skill and they know i have the experience and

that's something they would love to you know make happen but uh yeah i've done it for such a long time dude it's it's you know it's it's been too long so now i'm looking for something new and content creation it's fun man like i meet so many people do so many different things yeah and you're and you're doing it for yourself that's the main difference like you're not you're not doing it for anybody else you are um you know you're working on your own you're you're your own boss you have your own hours that's that's usually key like that was a big jump for me when i went from the young turks to twitch when i went full-time i went full-time in 2020 and when i first went full-time i was like really scared i was like fuck what am i gonna do i'm i'm used to having a salary even though it was low as fuck i was like i'm used to this i'm used to the health care right all the shit i don't

know if valorant or it's a it's a risk it's a risk right because they offer health care like the esports teams uh yeah they have benefits health care 401k all that shit yeah exactly i didn't like it's like a full it's like a regular job like employment but it was probably the best thing i've ever done in my life because like you know that i mean demonstrably i started popping off after yeah but you know you did take a risk at the same time because i'm sure i think you were doing both at one point right and then um but you you kind of you know trying to pursue something that doesn't really have a clear path on how it's done or what you're going to get out of it so and and not there's so many people trying to become streamers now right like everyone wants to be a fucking streamer everyone says that have

you ever seen those fucking like there's always like a survey they'll do and like top professions that like children want to be back in the day used to be like astronaut oh or like fucking firefighter and shit like now it's all like youtuber tiktok or a twitch streamer makes sense though it's a different world i mean it's a pretty sweet job i'm not gonna lie it's pretty awesome it's it's nuts man the fact that we get to do what we do like the life balance of a streamer compared to a pro that's how i kind of compare it um it's totally different like yeah traveling compared to like kind of doing what i want for myself working for myself um yeah it's obviously it's it's a risk but if it works out you know it definitely pays off we were hanging out with psycho last night he said he looked through your

records he looked through your records and he said that uh you had no losses whatsoever or like i think you had like one or two losses or something he's always trying to hype me up i think he i wish it was true man i'd be fucking insane right perfect record like not perfect record but he said like you have very few losses um no i've played in so many events dude so i've been competing for seven years right so i've been to like probably i don't know over a hundred events right damn so it would be tough to have that but i've we've won some big ones thankfully there's there's some notable achievements there that uh the major win is like what i always get memed about like major winner tarik because it's like i guess in comparison it's like you know the hardest thing yeah it's like the biggest thing of it all so it's like the super bowl for example for like football if you

compared it it's like the major champion what's the purse on that uh so i think when we won it was a million um get all of it or so the the prize pool was a million, and then first place was 500. And then it's divided amongst you and your teammates, your coach, your org. Your org takes a piece of that? Generally, standard rates is your org takes 10% to 15%. I think at the time it was 15%. So 15% was off the top. But we still got a great payday in terms of that

obviously the price pool is huge but it's also every competitor's dream to win the major yeah yeah but that's one of them give you a ring or something uh i wish and call of duty they do that but not in counter-strike i know dude the worst part of it all is that for some of these events that we win we don't really get like something. The trophy goes to the org. That's crazy. Yeah. Don't they give like a medal or something? I complained about this for years.

I thought they gave smaller versions of it to all the people that played. Yeah. It's totally fucked up. It is fucked up. Generally speaking, players should, in other sports and everything,

they do. In other esports, they do as well. You got to go out to the club rocking it like exactly what's up yeah or you should make flash my shit i'm gonna make my own ring honestly fuck it you know if they're not gonna give you a winner topic there you go that way that way people can flame you harder when you're when you're playing on mic no when they're flaming me i just show them my ring yeah the ring you'll be like yeah kiss the ring kiss the ring talk to the ring bitch exactly um okay so this is i mean you don't want to talk too much about your background or whatever

because you said you've exhausted it but oh yeah we can talk about it i don't mind obviously we're talking to like a new audience so i would like to explain to you guys like who i am and where i come from we're both turkish but you grew up in america i'm turkish i grew up in turkey i came here when i was 18 yeah there's a little bit of a difference there i think uh'm turkish i grew up in turkey i came here when i was 18 yeah there's a little bit of a difference there i think uh this turkish is way better than mine we talked a little bit we can talk here yeah you use like slang, which is interesting. Konuşuyorz is slang. Yeah.

It's like shortened. I changed the words up how I like it. Yani benim dilim biraz değişik. Definitely. Yeah, because your tongue is not used to rolling in a way. Yeterli konuşmuyorum. O da var. Yani annemden konuşuyorum, babamdan konuşuyorum, ailemden.

Ondan başka yani fazla Türkçe yok. We're going to have to put subtitles on this. I'm just letting you know. Sorry to the... I'm trying to show because it's fucking... I'm just saying my Turkish is trash. I don't use it enough. He's got an immigrant Turkish. He grew up overseas in America.

And you can tell a lot of a lot of german people have like a kind of a broken accent too still pretty good though i mean listen i understand everything you say so i can understand no problem it's just when i talk and you read it right uh decent not great though not great okay like the hard part is when i hear like a politician talking turgish like there then it's like very much. I have a hard time understanding. Yeah. So that's like the comparison. Like then it's like,

fuck man, what the fuck? Sometimes they use like big ass words, like Ottoman era words and shit. I'm like, what the fuck is this motherfucker saying? Like, even I have a hard time with that.

And that's because like, I just haven't been, you know, I haven't been speaking or listening to Turkish, like regular colloquial Turkish for a while, you know? Right. But I do, I do think in Turkish when I'm in Turkey or like, if I speak Turkish for an extended period of time, or listening to turkish like regular colloquial turkish for a while you know right but i do i do

think in turkish when i'm in turkey or like if i speak turkish for an extended period of time i start thinking in yeah i i have that too but it's not just it's when i get mad i was telling you this yeah i was like when i when i get really pissed it feels like it's easier to express express my emotion to myself like in my head i'll be cursing in turkish yeah what do you got give me a give me a good one i don't know i'm gonna call them intro to orospu yeah i just i just hit it all i'm honestly keem is like the perfect yeah like uh i just fucking run through the lines i do that too when i'm playing like fucking video games i get mad i start it feels more expressive by the way i hope my mom doesn't watch this yeah oh no i'm sorry sorry mama todik um okay well we're in the east coast at first i gotta say uh

marsh you want to get a shot at this that you got the you got the nazar born oh yeah which is which is incredibly turkish it is like every turk has to be clear i didn't get it my mom it was like the first thing she brought here yeah same yeah like i she was like she like the second we walked into this apartment the first thing she brought like hung it up i'm on allah yeah exactly no someone will you know what if what if someone is jealous and then it's so real man it's it's so fucking real and i i totally what it's supposed to do is supposed to protect you the evil eye for those of you who don't know supposed to protect you from the jealousy attacks oh shit is that our food already yeah god damn let's go

got it okay just it's just on the screen just press uh answer and then unlock after so we are going to uh we're gonna have some turkish well i was gonna pay you all this part but fuck it we can just have it here and then we'll talk about some other shit on the on the okay um we're we don't have nearly enough minutes yet so we'll just we'll just eat it on this we'll just give it to you for sure you already ran out of topics dude no no no no i was gonna i know i still don't worry i still got plenty to talk about i'm fucking with you i'm fucking with you um no i just meant like it's already here we could eat while it's hot yeah i don't want to i don't want to i don't want to wait so yeah you'll get it for free and whatever you'll get it for fucking free

instead of behind the paywall i got you guys eating turkish food uh toddy said targ generously got the food for us but he was uh i guess yeah this is very turkish review uh we i haven't had good turkish food in a minute la not a lot of good turkish food there's like armenian food that's pretty close enough like it's close enough it's pretty good yeah but it's not the same and um you know i just i haven't had like the turkish food you're gonna love it man you're gonna love it's gonna be like so i'm excited i'm excited i got literally this man foolishly gave me his fucking phone so i I ordered like $1,000 worth of food. Yeah, I was like, get whatever you want, and he got whatever he wanted. Yeah, no, I got like literally everything, because I want to do a taste test.

You know? What's your favorite food? What's your favorite Turkish food? My favorite dish, it was for a long time, Iskender, but right now, I just love Adana. I like Adana because it's spicy a little bit, so I always get that. What about, you're not a Manta guy? Manta's good, too. Yeah, I like Mantaa monta's probably my favorite um i love monta i have always been a donut guy they said that this place has turkish donut like yeah with like a turkish bread so i'm

excited to see it's going to be fun but um would you say but is turkish food your favorite type of food um your parents cook a lot of turk? Yeah, a lot of Turkish food for sure. So I've had a lot, and I think it's what I'm most comfortable with. So it's definitely something I eat the most. But in terms of my favorite. Yeah, what is the one type of food you could eat for the rest of your life? If I had to pick, I don't know. I feel like I love a good steak with sides like that. But I don't know if I could last forever with that.

It might get boring. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken? If we're being smart, chicken. If it's my favorite food, though, I mean, that's what I eat the most. Yeah, that's true. Chicken is what I eat the most.

Chicken is what I could eat forever. The most versatile food. Yeah, we'll pause it here for a second. Or, I mean, we could keep it going. I was going to say we just hide the fucking bags of the fucking place. Yeah. Awesome. All right. gonna say just we just hide the fucking uh bags of the fucking place yeah yeah awesome all right um yeah if i if there was a type of food chicken smart answer but my favorite food probably pizza yeah pizza is easy we had some bomb ass pizza last night you missed out dude it was so good

dude it was one of the things i have to do when i'm here when i whenever i come to the east coast like there's a couple different food groups that i have to consume like hit it right pizza sub like a real sub because they don't fucking do that shit like a good italian sub can't get that you gotta hit up cat's deli man for that for the sandwich for sure have you been to cats yeah well there's good there's good uh not not like uh as good canters is like all right as far as like jewish delis goes i've had cats of course i fucking love that shit russ and daughters who are bagel and locks but i don't even eat locks yeah but they got some good ass bagels there too but that's another one breakfast sandwich it is you breakfast sandwich pizza you gotta get your yeah it's all none of them i mean these

things don't fucking they they functionally might as well not exist in Los Angeles. Pizza, they've gotten a lot better at in LA. But fucking no good breakfast sandwiches. I've never been able to get. They have breakfast burritos, which are bomb. But I've never been able to get a fucking breakfast sandwich in LA that's like even remotely near the quality. Yeah, dude, there's so much food like over here. You have like every

cuisine like everything so it's it's it's honestly one of the reasons it's nice because if i get bored of one thing i have like 300 other options for example there's like always what's your favorite food though to order uh my favorite food in general um i think i might just go with uh like sushi maybe honestly i love sushi i love pizza too so it's tough i don't know i don't know pizza pizza's up there um i don't know if i have a clear favorite though that's the problem that's why i'm struggling to give you a straight answer but i'm just oh we forgot the baklava oh we forgot baklava no i didn't order that because that's all right we're gonna we're gonna i'll grab you i'll grab you some for another day and And, damn. That's looking meaty.

That's looking meaty. We got Munson, too. Let's go. I wanted to try it. Hell, yeah. Are we going to be in frame if I, like, get closer? We got the Tesla thing. I was going to talk about that.

Fucking, I hate Tesla. Oh, man. I hate Elon Musk, and I hate Teslas. Why don't you like Elon? What did he do to you, man? First of all, what did he do to me? He did to everybody. Oh, man. I hate Elon Musk and I hate Tesla. Why don't you like Elon? What did he do to you, man? First of all, what did he do to me? He did to everybody. Oh, fuck.

It seems like a... I feel like... Oh, so, okay. This is... This is Cigaraburria, okay? Which is like a cigarette burdock. Kind of like Spanakopita, I think it's called. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's like Greek. I mean, um, fuck with that heavy. And,

uh, this one has like feta, white cheese. We got kind of, and then we got, I think we got like fucking Bob chicken. Well, yeah,

I got a... I'm not even fucking waiting. Oh, yeah. This is a... I don't know what this is. What is this? You might have ordered. I don't even know what this is.

What is that? It said Turkish bread. This is not Turkish bread. I got a pita. Yeah, yeah. I got a pita bread. This doesn't have anything. Wait, is this Turkish bread? Which one is-

Yes, this is Turkish bread. Okay. This is, yeah. When it said Turkish bread, I thought that meant like ekmek. Have you ever had like real Turkish bread? Like it's like- You're talking about- Oh, you're talking about a long wrap like that? Yeah, yeah. It's not a wrap. It's like a bread. Oh, it's bread, bro. It's bread. I got you. Like a hero kind of.

Yeah. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a hoagie. I got you. No, this is like their homemade turkey. They call it pita. Like homemade pita, yeah. Yeah.

Bomb. I don't know. They didn't hear it. Marshall's been in the background saying this podcast shit is easy. Okay, bro. I'm going to make you do more remote shoots then if you like it so much. I'm going to put this down. I got to fucking fix my hair real quick or else.

That's one of the worst things about long hair is it gets in your fucking, gets in your face and in your mouth when you're eating. This is Esme. I got Esme. Do you fuck with that? Yeah. And we got Manta. And I got a chicken platter for myself. This is just like. I got Esme. Do you fuck with that? Yeah. And we got Manta. And I got a chicken platter for myself.

This is just like what I normally eat. I got other than a kebab. And pita. I think the most... What is it? He's about to go in. He's putting up his hair. He's about to go fucking demon mode on about to go demon mode on this food.

Oh the hot sauce has come with the meals. So I think each one. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is like, this is like Ramadan. Like, this is, they usually only make this during Ramadan in Turkey. All right. Jumping in now. Okay. Yeah. All right. jumping in there okay yeah alright this is like hot ones now

what is it? this is like hot ones you ever see that podcast? oh you didn't talk? you didn't talk? yeah no

I wish I had the podcasting aptitude of Sean Evans so I can ask you some cutting questions in the middle of a fucking bite while lowering your defenses. You know what I mean? That's how he does it. Oh, he goes and then he asks him a hard-hitting question?

Yeah, he'll be like, I'm going to do my Sean Evans right now. There's a classic clip of you playing in the underpass what did you feel in that moment in the underpass like i said talking about overpass so people that know me know what he's talking about but like i said i told him before I was told not to kill those guys in that clip. It's just a clip of me, like, missing on the back of two guys.

Yeah, you have the flank on him. I have a flank on him, and I'm moving up on him slowly, and then I whiffed the clip, but I was letting him know that that's exactly what was supposed to happen in that moment. It was for the better. It was for the better. It was for the better.

Somehow. Another. Another shot of his trope is like, you're seen as a bit of a bad boy in eSports. Streaming shirtless regularly. Eating cereal while you're playing. Has that image helped you become a better content creator that's so dude if you ask me like that i think he's being sarcastic as fuck i'd be like

oh man um no but the sherlock stuff is funny you say started off because i was in my room playing we get super fucking hot my dad gets pissed when i keep my ac on for too long whatever this and that my ac is fucking busted well i took that yeah i can't keep my pc on at night like everything has to go off no fucking lights something's like you can't waste power is it because of money or is it because like um it's both honestly it's money as well uh you know i come from a pretty lower class family but it's also just the principle i guess i want to fuck it uh i don't want to keep it open because for me now a couple things like my dad whenever he's staying with me and my mom,

they literally cannot stand having the AC on all day. I'm like, yo, it's my house, okay? And two, like, I'm in a room full of fucking electrical equipment and lights. You don't understand. This shit gets hot as hell in here. Yeah. They're always like, come on, turn the AC down. And they used to literally turn it down on their own. I like no yeah you fucking pissed probably i have the nest so now

i just like control it could be a game of like them turning the ac down and me turning it back up or you know uh taking it down to like a 69 yeah uh i know what you mean but it's the same thing literally it's even if it's not about the money it's just the principle of keeping it open when'd you move out of uh your parents house so i just moved into here um been almost three months now yeah how do you like it nice i like living alone um definitely a lot more responsibility just like everyday life you got to take care of all your shit on your own you don't have like you know people helping you so i think it's a the right step you know growing as a person and shit like that just becoming like you know an adult basically because i've been traveling and living at home so the most turkish thing you can do is literally be live at home 30

years old and living with your mom there is nothing more turkish than that yeah literally until you get married i think so as well and the thing is that your parents want you to stay home too yeah they don't want you to leave so it's like on top of you not wanting to leave they don't want you to leave so i guess it works out but i think it's a good step you you moved out you you moved out on your own or were you living alone For always I did the non-Turkish thing And at the age of 18 came to America By myself

Oh shit My dad did not want me to At all He was like what the fuck It kind of came at him by surprise basically It's like I don't know if I've ever talked about this really on stream. It kind of came at him by surprise because I was studying for the OSSA at the time,

which is like the aptitude, like the SAT is basically for Turkey, and everyone has to take it. Because we actually are a public-educated country? Shit, dude. You got to use the hot and white, yeah. It's not even hot, but it's hot. No, it's good. It's good as fuck.

It makes it. By the way, can we get a drink? Yeah? You want to grab one, yeah? I can come back. It cool right bro you got oh my god you got the fucking bottle of diet coke bro this is the most this is literally straight up turkey right now i've never fucking seen i have not seen like someone pull up whip out a one and a half liter bottle of diet coke in a very long time i don't know i feel like americans always have cans i have cans always i never have a big bottle you don't know no ice for me i'd rather drink at

room temperature trying to assess his evaluation through his facial expression it's got too much vegetable in it but does but it's loaded as fuck the donut part is really fucking good that's probably one of the best donors i've ever had that's the fucked up thing about it because they they they don't put that much donut in there. Yeah. Yeah, they really fucking load it up. They load it up with the veg. It's probably got, you know. But the donut is fucking fire. That's a really good donut.

We'll never tell you where this is from. Get fucked. Hey, dude. Yeah. Oh, it hits the spot. It dangerous man this you know i can just as no i don't get it every day but i have it at least once a week at least easily yeah so actually probably more than that probably like twice a week yeah it's fucking hard dude i i know i'm saying like if this had um some french fries in it

less vegetables french fries in it yeah no carrots and and also uh pickles we put pickles in it too normal turkey this shit would be bomb it would be very similar to like a regular turkish uh donut straight up the donut itself was really good you gotta load it up with sauce i'm telling you to bring all the flavor because it's too it's too dry otherwise like the red and white sauce brings it all together but this way you're actually getting the authentic taste of you know what you got we're having turkish food it's like nostalgic for that and then on the other hand you're very new york so i get nostalgic for nostalgia for you know college no fuckers been in new york a million times obviously like my mom used to live here for a little bit when's the last time you're back in new york college. Rutgers. Been to New York a million times, obviously.

My mom used to live here for a little bit. When's the last time you were back in New York? It's been a while. I have not come back in a while. Yeah. Because it's just a hassle. Six hours, dude. I can go to Europe in six hours. Yeah.

It's a long flight for sure. He's been down to the pole in the spring. He's been down to the pole. Yeah point yeah i know he's commenting on that so people don't recognize this but in la we have arrowhead and that's what sucks that's literally dog piss bro yeah not even human piss worse you can taste the difference literally yeah it's it's like shit and poland springs is like the default mode for water in the east coast and it's so much fucking better like i miss that shit i miss it a lot it's like sweet it's got like a sweet taste to it especially when i'm thirsty yeah arrowhead never tastes even when i'm thirsty arrowhead is

a type of water but i'll just literally be like oh the only thing you have is arrowhead i'm i'm thirsty arrowhead is a type of water but i'll just literally be like oh the only thing you have is arrowhead i'm i'm might be fucking really thirsty i'll be like i think you have his area i'll i'd rather yeah no i'd rather just not i'll wait it out at all i'll wait it out instead are you are you i'm a water connoisseur what do you mean by that like i just i don't know i'm real picky with my water like what kind of water you're drinking no um i'm picky about tap water when i go to like different countries or states like i definitely don't fuck with that shit like i know in like the nordic region they have you know really good tap water like sweden finland stuff like that but i still like i'm fucking shying away from it. Even New York has good tap water, actually. But I need it to, I'm fucking paranoid about it.

Yeah, we do. But I'm still paranoid about it, yeah. I just don't like the taste. Like. Yeah. Because you're not used to it, like, not being filtered, right? I don't like the taste of tap water for the most part. But I was saying, like, in Europe, one of the things I hate the most is Evian.

I hate the taste of Evian, Perrier. All European brand waters I feel like taste like doo-doo to me. I don't like it. Evian, yeah. That's like the classic brand they would have in the hotel. Favorite place you've gone to? My favorite country that I've been to?

I was saying I've been to France and Spain. Portugal was really cool. Brazil was awesome because I played for a Brazilian team at one point. And they were like, yeah. They were like kind of superstars over there.

Reverse Turkey. Turkey always has Brazilian soccer players play. Yeah. I did the reverse card. That's true. That was really cool because they they they took us around to like some really cool spots um hard to say my favorite in particular again because i feel like i've had great experiences in so many spots but and they're also unique right country to country it's like the culture and even just the street the street you can't say turkey no i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't say

turkey um i would probably i would probably go with uh i think i would go with spain man i think spain was really cool yeah yeah barcelona yeah we were actually we were in madrid and uh it was a vibe for sure like the people there were really nice the the streets the design the architecture was really cool they got awesome beaches there um yeah no it was it was great um hard to pick again my favorite because like i feel like there's so many countries that are just so special in their own way but i think spain stood out to me for sure urban amsterdam i have that uh not in particular amsterdam was cool I don't think it would be my favorite though that's how I feel about Amsterdam oh yeah

in terms of the architecture and how the streets are or just everything we're American so we are not a city that is run adequately. Like, even New York,

closest to a cosmopolitan European city as you can get, with, like, some notable exceptions, like Chicago, you know what I mean? But even in New York, our public transportation is dog shit. Trains, it floods. Yeah, that's a concern. Yeah, no, it's fucking, they don't improve it, dude.

MCA's's been they're raising the price all the time but the service has stayed the same throughout so like where the fuck's the money going yeah and it's it's an expensive endeavor it is to be an expensive endeavor it's they make a lot of money though they make a shit ton i don't know how much it is but i know they don't they don't tax the fucking developers enough that take advantage of like a robot robust public transit and that's a huge problem in new york is it's like it's a city designed almost single-handedly for like wealthy it's a wealthy person playground and like poor people are slowly being priced out

yeah i mean you said it yourself you're you're like from brooklyn right you were growing up brooklyn was not brooklyn i mean it's changed throughout the year so much for sure uh just not even only in terms of like uh you know what's what's around like the buildings and everything like that but the people here right like we we have a lot of immigrants here for sure people that come overseas and uh you know that's how my family ended up here as well but it's so much so many different people crammed up in one small area. So it's bound to just not only develop over time, but also cause some chaos, right? You know, you throw everyone into a mix together and they don't really, they're not about the same vibe.

But it's gentrified. Right now it's way better. But I mean, yeah, but also it's like unaffordable. It is, yeah. And there are, it's better now you're also kind of like enough money yeah that's true for like the average person it's not easy to survive with everything going on too i mean dude i i saw gas prices that when i went out like i saw gas prices that randomly i hadn't gone outside for a couple weeks i was doing a hard gaming binge you

know i was fucking grinding hard as shit it was like six bucks and i was like dude what the fuck's going on in this world like how have we reached this point it's in cali it's like 10 bucks or so how is like the regular person supposed to go to their job and come back provide for their family get food all this shit one of the ways to offset that would have been adequate public transportation but like i said it's fucked playground for rich people new york in general and even the fucking five boroughs are now basically becoming more of the same right like brooklyn queen is safe haven for at the very least like um largely people of color immigrants people that are first like fresh off the boat coming into america. Kind of start off with opportunity. Right. Yeah. Like.

Now they're being pushed out even further. Which kind of sucks. I mean. It's hard. Textification is like. It's fun. Because like. Now you also have like a fucking Whole Foods.

That you can go to. Yeah. Which is great. But also at the same time. It's like. Pull out. And makes things more expensive everywhere. But we're not going to do politics.

I'm just. I'm just. I'm just doing it out there. I'm just doing it. there i'm just doing it hard it's hard no it's relevant though it's relevant to me too because i i feel like i am kind of you know i i do come from uh a lower class family in the sense that my my we were always kind of uh my mom and dad were always kind of trying to grasp to you know keep us you know up foot upright everything like that and um i guess i'm also pretty privileged in what i do

and how early i got to start doing it because i never really got to personally uh you know i was living through my family's means have that struggle of trying to uh you know find food or pay your rent or this and that or have that real life experience of going through it obviously like i went through the stress that my parents went through but it was them at the end of the day finding the solutions you know yeah um good i mean recognizing that privilege is good too yeah i i i uh i had a very affluent beginning turkey my father was um pretty pretty rich growing up and then they lost everything trading for the most part he lost lost so much. In the stocks? Future trading and shit, yeah.

Oh, okay. It's funny because my dad lost a lot, too, from that. And that was a big part of his money. The crash affected him a lot. So by the time I got to college in 2009, they were broke boys. Whoa. Whoa. Oh.

Out of battery? I know you're a fucking beast, by the way. But I'm glad you like it, though. It satisfies me seeing you enjoy it. Yeah, 100%. It does. It does, man. I'm living through you.

AC's on. I've just been eating so much. I'm just like, my spice is starting to heat up because i haven't i haven't eaten all day today and i got the bang in me that's true that's probably part you're probably trying to get fucking moving and you're not yeah you're not moving the bang in me i'm like fuck i should have gave you a coffee man i didn't think of it though yes for an energy drink i was like this is what i got i was cracked uh so it's good it's surprising that i don't have one though right like i should what energy drinks dude yeah i'm surprised i actually have sometimes around my

dude i need an energy drink but then i don't have one i'm fucking pissed it's good i gotta stock up healthy for you bro they are they're fucking what do you use the bank before you work out that's that's for workout yeah but i'm trying to get off those two man what do you do give me your workout regimen um well right now right now i'm not you know i hurt my hand on some stupid shit yeah how did that happen explain oh fuck man it's so ridiculous i'm gonna give the tldr uh but basically i just jammed my the back of my hand uh on a metal hook and then where in my shower and how i don't know how and and uh give us a long version so all right all right basically okay i got a mirror for my shower and this fucking mirror i bought with some stupid ass cheap ass products

and it has this metal hook on top of it and i was taking a shower and i don't know how it happened it must have been a quick movement but at some point i just like fucking hit my hand right into that metal hook and just like right over my hand right into that metal hook. And just like right over here, it just went straight through and just blood started gushing everywhere. And I never seen this much blood come out of me like this fast. It was like it was scary. It didn't hurt, by the way, at all. I guess like, you know, adrenaline rush, whatever it is. But it didn't hurt at all.

Just a shit ton of blood. And then I run over and grab some Neosporin just get out the shower and sprint over grab some neosporin i just splurge it on top because i don't know what the fuck to do with it and after that i i facetime my mom i'm like yeah it's bleeding i don't think this looks good uh what do you think and then she's like you need to go to the hospital right now and then that's what eventually i wrapped it with a towel and went over. But it wasn't like that crazy. It's just like frustrating, annoying. You have a very himbo image. You know what a himbo is?

No. A himbo is, I mean, people call me that as well for the record. So it can be perceived as this kind of, but like an aloof male who means very well, has a kind heart, oftentimes is attractive. And is more, but like more al aloof do you feel like you have that kind of like laid back kind of no no no but like kind of i'm gonna be mean here because but like i said it's for me as well everyone says that about me as well it dump okay okay like with the thing i did right that's why it's so that's what i got pissed about. But having said that, you are, despite the Himbo image that you give off, you are very mature and very well put together.

Your house is super clean. I'm the same way. You immediately grab Neosporin. I wouldn't have even done that if I got injured. I would just let it ride. Yeah. Did you get stitches on it? Yeah, I did.

I got stitches on it. That's fucking serious, bro. It's not that serious. It just annoying bitches but yeah do you feel like do you feel like people uh paint you in that way in that light uh um i guess like sometimes based off my gameplay you know i can get kind of crazy but not necessarily speaking i mean um i'm kind of all over the place i think i'm very like sporadic you know i can be random i can be i'm all over the place. I think I'm very sporadic. I can be random. I'm all over the place. That's the best way I would describe it.

But generally speaking, I'm chilled. I'm laid back. In terms of making silly mistakes or choices, this is so clumsy. That's how I see it. That definitely exists. I'm the same way. Yeah.

But do you feel like that makes you a better content creator? I think so, for sure. It's authentic. You know, it's who I am. I'm not trying to act like something I'm not. Just trying to just, and that's what makes it like fun for me, right? It's not like I'm going on and trying to put up a show. I'm just being myself playing games.

And I think people enjoy watching that. So it's easy for me, right? Obviously, it can be stressful here and there. But for the most part, it's just like it's a dream come true. Ask me about any political subject you wanted to learn about. Well, okay. So before you do, I need you to give a definition of what you think it is first. No, the thing is, I don't have.

Okay, we can go with that. Sure. Because I'm going to keep eating this while you ask the question. Okay, well, the first thing I want to start with, I guess, would be like, and I don't know if it's the most controversial one, because I know there's some controversy about your views and stuff like that. But what I think it is, you just say it how it is, and you're very blunt. People don't like that.

I don't know if it's true or not, but that's what it comes off to me. But from my understanding, there's like a right and left wing, and you're left, and that's one of the things that, know people maybe harp on you sometimes about or maybe not and i guess i want to hear about is that true and if not uh or is it like is it very like frowned upon or what is it there you're asking like people call people say you're a socialist and harp on you for it is that what you're saying yes exactly yeah i mean but they say you're a socialist but you don't act like a socialist for example like this kind of shit right americans and just people in general as a consequence of the cold war uh and the ussr

losing and socialism losing any sort of like global power it had have this profoundly misunderstood perspective on what socialism is there's a different economic organization of society different way to organize society yeah okay um capitalism is one way to do it socialism is another way to do it we haven't really ever been able to accomplish a socialist organization of the economy there have been like attempts at it yeah um but overall they've been either squashed uh aggressively by the united states but ultimately because it's been so heavily propagandized against that people just don't really understand it they think socialism poverty cult right they think socialism means like you have to be poor you have to be like jesus

right that's not the case socialism simply is is about getting more rights back for the worker in the simplest way that I can put it. And having allowing workers who are the singular reason for value to ever be created. Like, for example, I'm going to use the e-sports team, right? As a wage labor in that situation, as a contracted worker for that e- esports team, who are actually what's creating value for that org. So it's kind of a socialist move, right? For me to join an org instead of doing it for myself? No, doing it for yourself is fine. Doing it for yourself, you just have ownership of your own production completely, entirely.

Now, there are still, obviously, exceptions to that. You're still streaming on an Amazon-owned platform. Someone else is making it goes deep rabbit hole goes deep then yeah someone else is always going to be making money off of your labor in under capitalism there's just no other way around it right um but but that is also part of the reason why we say like ethical consumption is impossible uh under capitalism and that you are always going to be a participator in capitalism even though you want to undermine it or change it because it's impossible to avoid the world you're talking about is like is it is it

realistic for that to ever exist and that yeah i mean i i so that's what you're kind of pushed for like that's that's kind of the direction the direction or it's just that you have that view and you share how it how you see things when things happen yes um the the reason why we i personally think that the reason why we experience um you know anger frustration and and like even the fear of your parents like for example not making enough money to make ends meet every month like that is a byproduct of the current economic organization of society that there's got to be some winners and some losers which means that there has to be losers which means that someone has to be getting fucked over at the end yeah like i personally think that we have enough wealth and uh we generate enough that

we could absolutely make sure that we have uh all of our you know primal needs taken care of yeah and then some even um i see what you're saying i i i and i and i recognize that it's like very very hard that's like but it's i don't think it would ever work though because like it's kind of saying like what if we're doing the same job we're getting paid the same amount for example not at all that's not how that works either because like um i'm not advocating for a flat rate for every single person and that's not socialism either or equal pay in general for everyone that's not how it works it's more so that like your output is in your control to a certain degree like the best example i can use is the

difference between you as a uh owner of your own content like as a content creator versus you as a uh you know as a player and a team okay when you're a player on a team someone tells you what your hours are you're beholden on other people you are dependent on other people when you're a content creator you make your own hours you have autonomy you have freedom you do whatever the fuck you want even if you want to fail you could fail on your own volition uh you can't do that when you are working for an org. Now, under a socialist organization of the workplace, you would at least have a say. You could say, I, and there are many different ways of organizing workplaces under socialism,

but the most basic way to describe it is like, you can be like, listen, we got paid out a million dollars right from this game that we won from the major that we won i think um let's say some of the benefits you were not happy with like some of the benefits package that you were getting from your org you were not happy with we are not giving the 10 to you back to the organization we want you to take that 10 because you generated that for the org without you that was not going to happen right right um you could say instead of giving that 10 to the organization we want to take that 10 and and put it into our uh benefits package we

want to have better health care for example so that's a that's a thing that you can say as a worker and have all of the other workers aligned with you in a socialist organization of the economy and and change that for yourself you could say i want to take more days off you could say i want to have more say in how things are run kind of yes and you're saying right now people are like they have no power at all currently the way it's designed it is top down it is a it's like the word above you they say that's the final word done yeah they think they know better than you and in some instances they might know better than you but in a lot of instances you as the player in an esports team right i guess it's a good comparison yeah significantly better than anyone else that's why

a lot of like the esports orgs that are like run by former players themselves end up having like at least a little bit better of a perspective on this yeah because they've kind of lived through it yeah oh the frosty shit yeah uh that with uh nature i didn't actually follow it closely so i don't i didn't uh it was going on when i was doing all this shit but i know what it's about like he was kind of talking about um you can segue it and i'm not sure well i mean speaking of esports organizations run by uh former players i mean i guess nadeshot was he ever a competitive like pro player yeah so nadeshot he he competed for a long time actually and uh he owns his own org now 100 thieves and they're doing great so

it kind of ties in what you're saying these players who've competed and actually been a part of the other side have that experience and ability to identify it all together he's not a good business owner don't think so no wait what are they doing wrong man do you see the amount of merch they're selling no no no they're great they're they're a great uh oh he's not as an owner or as a business as a business manager i think like with the frosty shit like it's very obvious that he literally made insane bets by just being like oh i like my mods i like these guys i'm just gonna give them 60 grand plus like whatever the fuck took a gamble on them for sure he did that was a bad that was a bad move from no if i were to unlock like my capitalist side of my brain i'd be be like, dude, what are you doing?

No, but I think to him, it's like he saw something there, right? And he was like, I want to invest in this idea, these people, and to see if they can make... Some of them did well, though. Yeah, make it grow for me. Out of the group, some of them did actually pop off. Yeah. I guess he was technically not off on the market. I didn't follow the group closely, but I would imagine it's something along those lines.

He saw something bigger that could happen with them, then you know maybe they took advantage of it or whatever uh specifics of it i'm not sure bad business owner stuff oh come on you can't pin that dude but what about all the good things he's done though he's done too much no i'm the guy's the guy's resume is too fucking good for me when i say someone's a bad business owner that's a positive for them because like that means that's that's what it is yeah because you just you know you're you're you're hyping your homies up. You're giving them money. You have to respect the fact that he went on a stream and addressed it all.

And that's what I give him the most props for. Although I didn't follow it closely. But the fact that he's the owner and he's involved in the situation. And he went on a live stream and discussed everything and talked about it. Like, dude, you're not going to catch that shit with other words. The contracts were crazy. The 85% thing was like wild. Yeah, I agree.

That does seem wild. I'm not sure if it was totally true or not a lot of but that's dude at the end of the day the guy signing the contract why is it our fault it's like people watching me no you got to defend them that's like so that that is one thing that's like people watching me that are like kids like if it's not my fault to parent what they're doing on the internet for example why is it our fault to also make sure they're signing a good contract well that's a good question or uh it's a a lot of people feel that way but i don't agree with that it is still on the at least like

the regulatory agencies to ensure that they are not locking people into predatory contracts oh it doesn't exist though and because there's no regulation around that sort of thing especially in the esports uh space as we know um i think it's still up to business owners that not fuck their oh man oh dude only if you knew not fuck their fucking player only if you knew like it's so fucking common yeah it's fucked up i totally agree yeah all right well i'm not gonna leak any contracts but yeah we will we will be he will be leaking contracts he is absolutely behind the paywall though unfortunately so if you want to see that be sure to check out fear and on patreon patreon.com slash fear and uh and is will coming

to join us for this podcast no he is he is not. He's in Los Angeles. Yeah, he's going to pop out of the fucking room. I don't know if it's going to be a surprise or what. He said he wasn't coming. Has he been on every show with you or no? No, he has not. Has he been on any? No, he has been on a lot.

The way you made it sound, I was like, dude, I haven't been able to find the guy in weeks. Yeah, no. We were in Fresno together earlier. But yeah, plug everything that you want to tell people where they can find you and stuff here. I think the best way that you guys could find my stuff is twitter at tarik that's got all my all my socials on there so yeah they'll link me link in the bottom plug it in but yeah um and you're on twitch you stream on twitch yeah i'm on twitch i'm on youtube instagram tiktok everything i do the whole dance all right thanks for coming

well now you're coming to the now you're arriving at the heart of like why a lot of people fucking either love me or they're like they can't stand what i have to say because i'll just be like yeah i think elon musk sucks if someone asks me why i think that i will tell them the short and sweet of it is because he's a billionaire and oftentimes it's almost impossible for a billionaire to be like a kind good person individual it is because he's a billionaire. And oftentimes it's almost impossible for a billionaire to be like a kind of good individual. It's not, it's not happening.