Fear& - HASAN PIKER JOINS 100 THIEVES (REAL) | Fear&CouRageJD
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what i mean like oh it's like oh we were just having a normal conversation it's like oh hello
didn't see you there boom all of a sudden did we start recording did we start recording
that's crazy like there is so much loud noise outside that the microphones are probably picking
up guys we're recording they stopped on a dime right yeah impressive that's professional they're
well they're professional they know what's going on i literally have my previous guests still in the house yep they have
not left yet they're on their way out yeah and in and out we're swapping them like crazy you're
probably thinking what's going on hassan you're in an entirely different outfit from the episode
that i watched last week because this is a different week for me guess what viewers
listeners this is happening right after the me young and tina kitten episode back to back i have
an incredible guest here will is of course not here once again as always he's off fucking off
somewhere probably at a wedding or a party i don't know what the fuck he's up to i think he's off fucking off somewhere, probably at a wedding or a party. I don't know what the fuck he's up to.
I think he's at a wedding.
Uh,
but I am joined by my esteemed guest.
Oh,
incredible.
I mean,
we've been trying to get fucking this man on this podcast for like years before
even started a podcast.
I was like,
I need to have this guy on bullshit.
And he was like,
ha ha,
get your money up.
Not your funny up kid
i'm not coming on it's jack courage dunlop in the building that's right 100 thieves owner co-owner
co-owner uh you were a caster yeah at a certain point i think i don't know anything about that
side of the world but i'm gonna ask you new jersey's very own yes sir yeah jack courage dunlop in the fucking
building wow i made it on the fear and pod yeah that's right fear and pod you had that you
practiced that you're like what the fuck is this dumb thing no no please my publicist i don't have
a publicist basically i'm just done with this bs of me being like unreachable i never was asked i was never asked and then when
i got asked i thought it was a mistake i said are you know are things getting or like you're having
that much trouble getting guests for the show because i'm low on the list that's not true like
you said me young and tina kitten on this this episode's gonna get five views compared that's
not true that's literally whatever the hell we want on here that's also true but also what's not
true is that i have
been trying to get you on that is true well thank you because i i i was very excited to have you on
um i love hanging out with you off camera i think you're very interesting very funny person
and uh you know we have a lot of we have a lot of similarities you and i in many different ways we
look very similar we come from similar backgrounds.
Yeah, for sure, man.
No, I mean, no, no, no, but there's a lot.
I'm shaped like a pear.
There's a lot of stuff that you're going through that I have gone through and am still going through with respect to like weight loss, being a Jersey boy, you know, eating bagels. Yes.
So all of that I'm excited to talk about.
And also you're like a analytics wizard you love
looking at analytics okay i'll take i'll take that thank you i think like what and i am too
i like looking at the you know i think it's fascinating to be able to look at something
that is otherwise qualitative yeah and uh you know arbitrary subjective and then and then being
able to quantify that is something that i find very fascinating so
i look at that a lot so there's a lot that we're going to talk about but yes i'm joined by jack
courage dunlop co-owner of hundred thieves well thank you for having me and i can't believe i'm
finally here at the house yeah the v place yeah so it's so rich and so expensive my god i mean i
actually can't believe that you had armed security and they checked my net worth walking in here.
Yeah, they were like, is that real?
They literally were like, they checked his necklace.
Like the guys on TikTok with the...
Yeah, it was fake.
Thanks, NadeShop.
Yeah, they were like, this is not VVS.
Yeah, no, I can promise you it's not VVS.
There's one thing it's not, it's that.
Yeah, they were like broke boys.
But anyway, listen, you're here.
You finally made it.
First question immediately, okay?
I'm firing this off.
Why courage?
Wow, great question.
And for what it's worth, listen,
we don't need to make this whole episode
about me and my history.
I'm more than happy to talk about
whatever you want to talk about.
No, I know, but that's what I want to talk about.
All right, good.
Well, why courage?
Growing up, and still now, I have a lot of anxiety.
Anxiety has always been one thing that I battled.
And when I was making my gamer tag, I was originally,
I used to play called Bambino from my baseball days.
Fucking dude, you are so New Jersey.
I was number three.
That's insane.
I was a first baseman.
I was a lefty.
I was overweight.
I would hit home runs in Little League.
I would literally eat in the dugout.
My nickname was Bambino.
And then I became XXLethal1XX and called it a four.
Come on now.
That's badass as shit.
That is the most no pussy having ass gamer tag I've ever heard.
Do not be rude.
Okay.
I got a lot of pussy.
No, you didn't.
And then I woke up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. No, it's definitely a virgin throw.
Wait, wait, say that again?
XX Lethal.
XX Lethal 1, XX, and the 4, the T, and the O in 1 were all numbers.
It was like 4, 7, 0, basically.
We were doing lead speak.
If you are jealous you didn't have that name, just say it.
My name was Hellboy Hassan.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
My entire, like pretty much.
You definitely like getting pegged.
Sorry.
No, Hellboy with the comics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, for sure.
I was a big Hellboy fan.
I don't know why I call myself Hellboy Hassan.
It's so weird.
That's kind of weird.
But either way, before you so rudely interrupted me.
Go ahead, Lethal One. Continue with way, before you so rudely interrupted me. Go ahead, lethal one.
Continue with your.
I was in death by headshot.
I did what?
In Halo 3.
And then I became courage.
I courage because I wanted to have more courage in my everyday life.
I was very easily.
Strongly with my anxiety.
Does that mean you wanted to be the lethal one beforehand
or do you want it to be the headshot haver beforehand?
I wanted to try to feel cool online
and I thought that that helped me
because I was an absolute pussy in real life.
And none of it helped.
Very different from the experience
of every other lethal one that you can find.
No, absolutely.
John Wick absolutely is a lethal one. I'm the opposite.
Okay.
I love that. That's cool.
My name is Hasanabi.
It just means older brother or son. It's not as cool.
But it's Turkish. It means like
the older brother. You know, Maddie was a swimmer.
Went to Turkey. Really? Yeah, she had a great time.
Why did she go?
She went with her family.
They went to Cappadocia.
And beautiful.
Bodrum.
Also beautiful.
And Istanbul.
That's where I've spent a lot of my summers.
Yep.
So she had a great time.
And Istanbul's where I grew up.
They stayed at a hotel where they had a wine dispenser.
Like in the walls.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And she said it was really bad wine.
But they had a great time.
They also got scammed about this pottery thing. Always. Yeah. to get scammed it's like the turkish experience that really hit it's weird like if you're a tourist in turkey 100 like when i go i
like to fuck with the cab drivers because they think i'm american you know what i mean and i'll
just like go in and i'll go speak in english and then and like they it's weird you can kind of tell
when someone's turkish like if i see someone
and i'm like that motherfucker's turkish i think like it's like a weird sixth sense right and i
think they get like a little suspicious at first but then when i'm like speaking english like an
american person they try to fuck with me and i'm like and then i'll just like bust into like
and then they're like holy shit yeah i'm like that
fucking white kid who speaks fluent mandarin on the price goes down yeah yeah oh dude have you
seen that yeah he's like white crazy white boy spits mandarin he actually crushes it bro he does
or maybe we think that because we don't speak mandarin no but he does all he does all different
languages he's thinking the same guy like dude every time you get to see people's reactions to that man talk about a way to bring people
together and like make people smile that content was so so good i just like i don't know if he
has like picked up like a couple words from because like sometimes he'll just be in like
uganda and i'm like you don't fucking speak this language like what do you mean there's no dual
lingo for this like what, what did you do?
Who's checking his ass?
Cause I sure as hell ain't.
Yeah.
Well then all those episodes,
he could just be saying,
yeah.
And then like paying someone to be like,
Oh my God,
this is brilliant.
You know what I mean?
Like,
but I don't know.
I don't,
it's just,
that's too much.
It's too much languages.
It's too many languages that know.
And I love the challenges too,
where they'll be like,
uh,
if you can speak a language,
I can't,
you get like a gift card for a free sandwich. they're like they have to come up with the most obscure
languages all right you win here's a free sandwich i was about to say that seems like a
like what i'm like all right well shit yeah okay all i know is english yeah really let you down
you don't you don't speak anything else took french for nine years
and that's also just a fake sentence.
Oh, you just made that up.
I think it's like I...
That was so convincing.
I speak a little bit of French is what I tried to say.
Crazy white boy shocks shopkeeper with his fluent French.
See?
And then there's like little sound effects.
Yeah.
That shit goes viral on TikTok.
That's crazy.
Oui, oui.
I know omelette de fromage and Sacrebleu.
Omelette de Fromage is just a cheese omelette.
Crazy white boy, dude.
Look at me.
I'm fluent in French.
That's how I got
into my gamer tech.
I love that.
For people that don't know,
how did you become 100 thieves
courage like what are the steps that took in your life because there's going to be a lot of people
who are like hasan who the fuck's this guy not because you're not famous or anything you're you
know you're you are sorry man i've already felt flexed on by coming to the house no no no no god
damn it stop stop no i meant i meant like you know i have a different audience. I get it. So I was just a fan of competitive gaming growing up.
Wound up becoming friends with people involved in competitive gaming
because of a game called StarCraft.
Those people became friendly.
They worked at a company called Major League Gaming.
I then got offered an unpaid internship at Major League Gaming
because I was a video intern or as a video editor in college.
I was going to school for media and film wound up having an opportunity to go and host the show
with chris puckett the mlg uh host and legend from that i did a good enough job that they
offered me a spot as like a tier two caster i need to pause you for a second there like your
youtube video fuck my brain's so broken from Twitch streaming. Chris Puckett also happens to be the name of a chaotic vice president of advertising
that I had to work under.
And it like reignited some trauma.
Oh my God.
This dude was a psycho, bro.
Sorry to hear that.
That's crazy.
Everything okay?
Are you good?
No.
Okay.
I don't know if I can get...
I was just thinking.
I don't know if I can keep going.
You say Chris Puckett.
I'm like, it'd be crazy if it was the same person.
Probably not.
It's definitely not.
I promise you it's not.
Chris is a very good man.
He's a very good man.
Yeah, this guy was not a good guy.
But go on.
So then he got me an internship.
I became a Call of Duty commentator
and went up kind of the ranks.
And that became like the top Call of Duty commentator
alongside my great friend Maven.
Fortnite came out.
I was streaming on the side for supplemental income.
Began to get a bit of a following in Fortnite.
Took the leap to going full-time into Fortnite.
How many viewers did you have when you were like,
this is my shit, I'm doing it now?
When I got, so I originally joined Optic Gaming and had the opportunity to get my full casting salary
under Optic Gaming.
But Optic at that time,
for anyone that's deeply involved in knowing of esports,
it was run by a terrible ownership group at that time for any one that's deeply involved in knowing of esports it was run by a terrible ownership group at that time and so i kind of joined like a shell of optic gaming uh-huh
and but thankfully i was still basically paid to just stream by them and like yeah rep their brand
so it worked out great for me my goal was to hit 3 000 subs on twitch that was like my i'm going
from a thousand subs and if i can hit 3 000 i can really Twitch. That was like my, I'm going from 1,000 subs,
and if I can hit 3,000,
I can really do this full time.
That's good money.
I mean, that's 1,500.
Oh, yeah, 15,000, sorry.
Yeah, and so,
when I took that leap,
I went from 1,000 to 5,000 subs
in my first month of being full time.
Like, my community really went all in.
That's what happened with me, too.
Yeah, and, you know,
I'm super grateful for that,
and it kind of just blew up from there.
What was your peak at Fortnite when Fortnite popped off?
Because for those of you who don't know,
Fortnite was the thing.
We still haven't had another Fortnite.
It'll be tough to have another Fortnite.
Yeah, I don't know if there ever will be.
It's like thinking about like Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson.
Like these are world change the beatles
these are world-changing performers and acts that probably will never be replicated because
everyone else that comes after them is kind of biting their shit i'm formulating the tweet in
my head i can already see it michael jackson the beatles fortnight no but like obviously we're
clowning on it and it like it's whatever but at its peak
like it kind of redefined uh i mean it took brs of the next level it just took gaming to the next
and yeah i mean there was no battle pass before fortnight every game had loot boxes before four
yeah they were just hooking us up on gambling there's there's now more now right sorry now
right does both he's kind of fucked up pretty crazy. There's now more collaborative skins. Now Riot does both. Sorry? Now Riot does both.
He's kind of fucked up.
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
There are more
collaborative skins
in Fortnite
than there are
of their own
that they've created now.
So like,
in Fortnite,
you now could be
Master Chief
with Rick in your car
from Rick and Morty
with Michonne
from The Walking Dead
with, you know,
Kratos from God of War
with a lightsaber as your pickaxe.
And the glider is from Naruto.
And,
and you can do that combination hundreds of times over now because of how
many,
to be fair,
I kind of hate that.
It's very profitable,
but I do hate that.
Cause it's like IP plays are now becoming like the easiest way to kind of
get everybody excited.
Yeah.
And I think like, while all art is derivative if we're gonna talk if we're gonna talk about this from a higher level i think
that that does have the capacity to just kind of fucking ruin uh art in general that's how you get
all the the free guy movies and well i also think that a lot of like the dedicated fortnight fans
of like the lore of fortnight do miss when it wasn't,
every season wasn't a big character from a movie or a show
because I think it harmed the Fortnite storyline
that people so loved in chapter one into chapter two.
Yeah, there was like bombs and there was a rocket.
The rocket, yeah.
The island getting destroyed from the black hole
and then like midway through chapter two,
the Avengers showed up and then it like, then it kind of all began to get like what's even going on in this
um yeah but with that too fortnight also changed things were like there was no cross platform
before that like people on xbox couldn't face people on playstation is fortnight the first
cross platform that was the one that broke down all the barriers yeah they like playstation had
no reason to do it because they were winning the console wars and it was this whole big thing and
then finally now you can have xbox with playstation with switch with mobile with your that was not a
thing so yeah no i remember it's insane back in the day which was you know simpler time better
time i would say uh there was no uh you know spirited debate around you know what i'm about to ask you
no spirited debate around mouse and keyboard versus it's a big deal controllers it's a big
deal now for those of you who don't know at home you're like what the fuck are you talking about
this is this is the biggest debate yeah in the gaming community You are, what side are you on on this?
I'm in a bit of a unique scenario
as a little bit of background
because I was a Call of Duty commentator.
That was only controller.
So I was always only playing controller
and I have 10 plus years of controller experience
and I will say I'm quite good on controller.
But then I also, on Fortnite,
and on other,
I've played PC since 2011 as well
but i'm also pretty darn good in mouse and keyboard there's a lot of people who only are
good on one yeah and not the other you could just say nick merckx damn you called his ass out huh
and tim the tat man and tim you know he's ass on controller um isn't he also ass on mouse and
keyboard yeah he's just ass at everything yeah i was about to say i mean i'm terrible so yeah
it's all right.
Takes one to know one, Tim.
The good thing is that you can beat his ass,
so you can say whatever you want about him.
I don't know.
He's a big dude.
He does have dad strength now.
Oh, no.
He's got his father, so that gives you like 50% bonus strength.
Yeah.
Okay, so you're good at both.
And you can totally see the strengths and weaknesses to both sides.
Mouse and keyboard, better from range, weaker up close.
Controller, weaker from range.
Micro adjustments up close.
Aim assist does the job for you.
The issue, though, is that now competitive games
have the ability Apex Legends.
It's necessary to have a controller player on your team
for up close fights.
They can run an SMG or a shotgun
and dominate inside building fights. Or then you can have have a mouse keyboard player from range being able to typing
yeah and i think for a lot of people it's like well it shouldn't matter it's just come down to
their skill and those should be equal but it'll always be tough to balance and obviously just
like most things in life controller players think that mouse keyboards overpowered mouse keyboard
thinks controllers overpowered and it causes a lot of strife i don't really understand how you can say mouse and keyboard
is overpowered though because it's all technical it's like all there is no aim by i mean the copy
pasta and meme with it is that like you have your whole arm to aim yeah versus me only having my two
thumbs on the joysticks yeah i mean no one is i think saying that it's just as easy to aim with
a thumb and a joystick not but you know there not. But, you know, there is no...
I think the frustration is just the strength
of rotational aim assist
and how powerful aim assist in games has gotten.
I mean, there's videos out there,
and I feel like half the time they're just fake,
but there's a lot of videos out there
where just, like, the guy will swear.
He's like, I don't even have the hands on the controller,
and the controller's just moving around. Like, thehair is moving around no there's absolutely it it's
definitely very strong and now you can do all these micro things to dead zones and
and and vertical and horizontal you know aim speed and this and that and in cod you can have
dynamic or black ops or this aim assist her and it's like holy shit there's 800 aim assist
options nade shot just hopped on cod for the first time in a long time and was reacting to everything
he could change on his controller and it's like back in the day in monolith for two you were like
force sensitivity tactical hop in a game now there's 50 options that you can change that's
do you think it's better or worse i mean i just think it's
great that like player players can play whatever they feel comfortable but at the same time it's
like what can't we just like make it can't we just like hop on a game i'd have to change 800 things
okay uh there's another robust debate that's happening that you've also thrown your hand in
the ring on and you've gotten a lot of criticism for it. I'm of course talking about skill-based matchmaking.
You've been playing call of duty.
It came out.
Did you give him these topics?
No,
I I've,
I follow you closely.
Wow.
I am very familiar with you.
You want me to sign some stuff on the way out?
What?
Yeah,
no,
that'd be nice.
Yeah.
I have my,
I have the,
uh,
courage JD monster energy or not monster,
uh,
game fuel.
Yeah. The courage, the courage, you need gameage JD Game Fuel that I stole from your house.
Thank you.
That I drank.
That used real juice, so it better not be around here still
because you'll get sick probably.
No, I drank all of them immediately.
But, you know, I have the can still, so you can sign up.
Thank you.
Skill-based matchmaking.
What is it, for those of you who don't know at home?
You want to explain it first yeah skill-based matchmaking is essentially where the goal of the game is to put
you in equal level lobbies or lobbies that are of similar skill to protect people from players that
are much better than them or protect those that are much worse than them from getting stomped
i absolutely think skill-based matchmaking has a place in gaming,
but there is a place for it
and it shouldn't just be everywhere at all times
without any rewards for being in them,
in my opinion.
I watched your video
where you talked about it
and at first I thought immediately,
get better lol.
That was what I wanted to write.
I wrote it out.
And before I hit send thank
you i stopped myself and i really i did something that no one on the internet does that's and i and
i tried to understand where you were coming from wow yeah wow and i just had the chills yeah one
thing yeah it's very unique you guys have tried out one time it's so strange it's a very strange experience um and one thing that you talked
about which was uh something beyond prestige like a ranking system yep which i i think they're
actually implementing that's what or at least i saw uh they made an announcement that there's a
coming in 2023 so that is you are correct i think that call of duty's ranking system the prestige system
is nothing like it needs to be at this in this day and age if you want to have a competitive shooter
even if the the dynamics even if there are so many variables that will like ruin a game make
a game easier whatever um you still need to have ranking system you still need to have top 250 top
500 radiant immortal that sort of thing like in valorant i know this from my
personal experience like i am a very casual gamer yeah but i've been playing valorant a lot
and it is um i'm obsessed with i'm obsessed with uh the idea of ranking up even though it's
literally for nothing not a single person's gonna be like oh wow like hasan made it out of silver yeah like
not like that's something that like 14 year olds do without even thinking about it you know what
i mean but for me it's like a big accomplishment and so i totally understand it no matter where
you are in the world no matter where you are in your own career that little thing especially when
you're able to just like ride with it like hold on to it is is a brilliant way to keep people sucked into the game but then like everyone values their time as well and like seeing yes the ability
to watch yourself improve and the fact that you know how there's the the triangle badge that shows
like what rank you've been across the axe yeah you can go back and see like yeah the fact that
in valorant i can go see three acts ago when I was silver to now being diamond,
and I can see my progression through the acts.
Oh, you were silver three acts ago?
No.
I've always been diamond or low immortal.
Yeah, it's all right, man.
We're not all shit at the games.
It's all right, bro.
You'll get there.
You really will.
No, I won't.
I will never.
I've done so many years of just playing.
People don't understand that.
People think like like i played
basketball my whole life so i i've always been able to recognize it from like that level of
competition where it's like the difference between like some of the top players on the planet
or uh you know someone who is like genuinely truly what is it it? Radiant is the highest? Yep. If you're not in the top 500?
Or Immortal?
Yeah, Immortal, and then there's Ascendant.
It's right below the green one.
Yeah, Immortal, Ascendant.
Yeah, let's say someone is an Ascendant player, right?
There's thousands of them.
Yeah.
But the difference between that guy and the couch potato who plays casually,
or tries to play seriously or whatever at like, you know, gold or plat is truly like demonstrably different.
And I noticed that when I started playing with pro players, because I always thought like, well, you know, anyone can do this.
Come on.
I've been doing this my whole fucking life.
Right.
And then I would play with like Shroud and I'd be like, oh, no, everyone can't do this.
This is literally like if I played with an NBA player. right and then i would play with like shroud and i'd be like oh no everyone can't do this this is
literally like if i played with an nba player like it's it's you know maybe not the top nba player
but definitely like any nba player would wash me i played basketball my entire life every single
person in the nba would destroy me i mean they they see like how you put a little bit of weight
on one foot too much. Yeah.
And then, you know, let me attack that.
Exactly.
Like, I can destroy, like, whenever I go out to the course, I'm not super good or anything,
but I have a size difference.
I have an advantage.
I've been playing basketball for many, many years.
So, I know how to dominate a lot of players, right?
A lot of different players.
Is this why you asked me to play tonight?
No, no, no, no.
Because why the fuck would I say yes to that?
Because you've been working out,
and we weren't going to compete against each other.
We were just going to shoot around.
Yeah, okay.
Because you've been working our out,
which we'll talk about in a second.
Okay.
But, you know, like I said,
any professional basketball player would destroy me, right?
And the difference truly is like that.
Like, the difference truly is,
like, between a pro player and, like,
a casual person that's, like, really good
is truly like a casual person is good at a sport and a professional player i mean shroud
kind of went viral for that clip where he called out the person in chat this was like a month ago
i want to say now or he had just gotten onto some game i forget what it was maybe oh it was
overwatch too and i think he clapped back at someone in the chat that trolled him or had mentioned something around a play Shroud had just made.
Shroud hasn't played a lot of Overwatch.
Yeah.
But Shroud, I think, clapped back at the person and had a line that was like,
my 10 hours on Overwatch 2 is your 1,000 hours.
Like, that's just how Shroud is.
And people were like, I think, upset by that.
And then Nadeshot made a TikTok kind of defending Shroud, and that viral it's like yeah it's entirely true it is 100 true like it's flat out
yeah like his mechanics are so advanced and that is not because shroud is like uniquely and
naturally talented which i'm sure plays a role in it that's because shroud has been fucking playing the mechanics
for 10 12 hours every day for the past 10 fucking years and you have you just got born like you
haven't you haven't been thinking about it enough you know you've been casually playing people don't
understand that i think like for pro play in video games like you're doing drills like you're doing
drills in a similar way to like organized sports, you know?
And,
and when you do it over and over and over again throughout your career,
you,
you get better at certain things.
You don't even have to think about it.
And those mechanics absolutely translate to other games that you're playing,
especially FBS.
It's like,
it's,
it's like Timmy too.
It's Timmy.
He's yeah.
You put him on a game and it's just like,
Oh yeah.
Give him 10 hours with it.
He's better than you after you've probably played for six months, legitimately six.
Like, he will make you be like, whoa.
Even if you're really good and he's got 10 hours on your game, he'll have moments where you're like, oh, shit, I can see what can happen.
We are talking about, like, unique people, though.
I feel like Shroud and Timmy with, like, their versatility.
They are in the.001 of yeah they they are definitely but those are the people that i was thinking of
when i was like when i played with them i realized like we're playing different games
my first ever ranked game on valorant i played with toddy and i made him play for me no way
and he just played reina uh inbox, and I still think about that.
Because he was like...
What rank was that in?
Probably silver?
Yeah.
I mean, he dropped like 37 or something.
No, but like...
It's like going to the playground with the Hulk.
Yeah.
No, because he was...
To fight the third graders.
The way I describe it is like, I play a game that's very clunky.
He was swimming.
It felt like he was swimming.
His movement was so fluid.
Oh, yeah.
There's no – his mind is thinking of 87 things at once too.
That's what I find most fascinating is that they can aim like that
while also getting the little bit of information,
thinking in his head like what corners he should clear versus not clear, knowing just every little bit of information thinking in his head like what corners he should clear versus not clear
you know knowing just every little bit of detail it's fascinating when you then watch
it's very it's it resembles chess a lot in my opinion i feel like those games for sure yeah
it's it's you know you need to take the smallest bit of information and see far ahead that's why
i love starcraft i mean it's a real-time strategy game, but you need to be able to go scout your opponent and see the littlest
bits of things, and then be
able to plan four moves
ahead to be able to win the game. There's no more
rewarding feeling for me ever than winning
a Starcraft 1v1 because
I can't blame anybody.
It comes down to my ability to have
seen what you were planning to do,
out micro, out macro, and
win the game.
And when they type GG,
it's like, let's fucking go.
And the game had a great rank system.
Yeah.
Ranky systems are great.
Yep.
I agree.
But going back to skill-based matchmaking,
you think that the ranking system should be there,
but you also want a no skill-based matchmaking type,
you know, arena play, I guess.
Well, not arena, but... It's a little bit tough.
Like right now, there's two weeks of dead air
before Warzone 2 and Season 1 come out for Call of Duty.
Everyone, for the most part,
many people are leveling up their camos
and trying to use random-ass weapons
that kind of suck compared to the best guns.
Well, because of my skill-based matchmaking,
I'm facing the top 1%
while I'm using a slow-ass, terrible LMG
and a rocket launcher trying to shoot down killstreaks.
But I'm facing kids who want to be optic scump
and only use the best gun and only do all this stuff.
So it's a little bit of a frustrating situation
where it's like, I get the situation I'm in.
Give me the ability
to go like search a social playlist and mess around with these guns so there's like less on the line
and then it'll also keep me in my skill-based matchmaking when i'm actually trying a bit more
seamlessly like now that i'm using all these shit guns it drops me in my skill base and then i wind
up just kind of shitting on everybody when i use the real guns again because my skill base goes down a little bit let me just go use the shit weapons that i want to level up
in peace and then so you don't want to pub stomp i i have no want for that no so i because i think
a lot of people when they complain about this many people just immediately assume like oh you
just want to pub stomp like you want to i to... I want to rank. Because Timmy was talking about that.
And I think Myth said something along those lines.
The response to Timmy was...
Or not Timmy, sorry, Tim the Tapman.
And his response basically was like along those lines.
Where it's like, you just want to pop stomp.
You want to get like 30 bombs.
You want to get a good clip.
You want to get YouTube videos.
And skill-based matchmaking is is good across the board i'm not sure if tim the tat man wants to
completely eviscerate skill-based matchmaking or not is that something that he's talking about
no i think him and doc are just a little bit frustrated where it's like there's just
and my one of my issues is there's no variability because skill-based match rankings goal is to put
everyone between like a 0.8 and a 1.2 kill death ratio yeah no
one's getting high kill streaks no one's being able to use different weapons it's like you just
need to use the best to compete with these guys that are all in your lobby that are the best
and every game every one of the lobbies like 28 and 22 and that 22 and 22 so that makes it so that
you don't feel the fruits of your labor you don don't feel like you're progressing. And whereas like, I'll go 22 and 22 every game,
but I'll win and rank up and be like, fuck yeah.
I did what I needed to do to win.
I got the win.
Whereas now, you can't even see your KD ratio.
You can't even see your win-loss record in the new COD.
It is weird.
It feels like you're, it feels, when you,
most people I think right now, when you end a COD session,
I think a lot of people end it exhausted versus feeling rewarded
because at the end of it, you're like,
man, I just went to the ringer.
And it's like, holy shit, every game was sweaty.
You know, the COD moments growing up was like,
run around with just your knife only.
Or let's all use riot shields.
If I did that shit right now i would be getting
fisted by this dude with smiley face in his name or clan tag this or wannabe pro player that
and me and my boys can't even fuck around with knives out because we're just in the we're in
the blunder what about uh what about cheating is cheating still a big problem in the new it's
gotten way way way, way better
ever since they updated Ricochet or added Ricochet.
Cheating was horrible in Warzone 1.
I remember.
One of the reasons I quit.
But Ricochet has actually had a lot of good and cool moments.
The premise of Ricochet is that
instead of outright banning cheaters right away...
It puts them in cheating lobbies?
It does all sorts of different things.
But one of the
funniest parts which has gone viral a lot is that it's the name is ricochet basically a cheater will
shoot you and their bullets will just ricochet off of you so they'll shoot you a million times
and you'll be getting hit but it does no damage so this cheater is helplessly aim botting you
and you can literally just walk up to them and just bop bop and they're dead that's fun
so it's like they run around and cheat go for it you just turn and you just laugh at them and just
kill them so like there's clips of tim and them just stunning the cheater over and over as he's
like trying to you know he's aim hacking on everyone shooting him a million times they don't
die and then they like take turns assassinating him and they and and people eat that shit up
that's pretty cool.
I like that.
I think it'd probably still be better
if they had an anti-cheat system,
but I don't know how you can do that for PlayStation.
And I've been a bit removed from...
Well, there's no cheaters on PlayStation and Xbox.
Oh, it's impossible.
No, it's almost...
It's 99.99% PC.
And that's for console players.
I'm not involved on console as much anymore.
But when the cheating was bad,
everything in the comments was like console only lobbies,
console only lobbies,
because all their names came from PC cheaters.
Yeah.
No, I know.
I mean, that's why Riot's anti-cheat is like a kernel level thing
that you need to install.
It fucking breaks your computer, though.
It literally breaks your shit. It's crazy. crazy yeah i've never seen anything like it like i i've faced a lot of
cheaters i've all no it's one time in all of the all the time i've spent playing and i've played a
lot now like for the past couple months i've been obsessed um i've only had one cheater and it was
right after like the new map and the new character
came out and it was like they could fix in the beginning of act two i think like i went into a
game and this dude on my team was fucking cracked right and i was like that's you know i didn't even
think about it actually because like you don't even think that there's a cheater ever in your
lobby you just think that guy's smurfing right um yeah and i got this red screen that said cheater detected in your team like your match will
be not yeah your match will be void like no points will be given to anyone and it's kind of cool but
yeah you know who else thinks they face cheaters was uh the bronze kids that you faced in that
game that tarik played for you you dick yeah well i think everybody knows especially it's
especially everybody knows
in lower elo is like you're playing with a lot of smurfs oh it's which kind of sucks but there's
like not really anything you can do about it i play with smurfs too like because people want
to play with their friends you know oh so that's me right now like literally when i play cod
this whole launch i play with my five buddies from home i'm the best of that group
they join in with me and their experience is quite literally
multiple times harder.
Yeah.
And then, so now they're like,
holy shit, I'm trying to play with my boys,
and they're getting put through hell on earth.
Yeah, no, I know.
I play with, when I play with like,
Plat, Diamond, higher players,
and I do it regularly, we do five stacks,
I'm like, I'm not getting RR, because the game automatically assumes like I'm in higher players. And I do it regularly. We do five stacks. I'm like, I'm not getting RR because the game automatically assumes
like I'm being carried.
So I'm not even getting the experience that I would normally get.
And I'm playing against some much, much better players
who are just going click, boom, headshot.
You're playing a close corner with a judge and that's it.
You're just sitting there with a shotty hoping they run into you
and you get a double kill. shot you're playing a close corner with a judge and that's it you're just sitting there with a shotty hoping they run into you and yeah we'll kill it's it's it's ridiculous because they know
they know how they know where i'm at every time it's like playing against someone map hack on
like it's just it sucks but you know it makes you better um talking about skill based you want to
talk about working out um i do want to talk about working out there was one other thing that i wanted to talk to you about before that with was in this arena but never mind let's do it let's talk about working out sure
you've been working out you lost 20 pounds yeah that's awesome hyped has there ever been a point
in your life like what were your workout goals starting uh starting out have you ever achieved
them and was there ever a point in your life
where you were like, damn, I did it?
2017 was when I was like, I did it.
I went from 200, I was 262
pounds, I'm the heaviest in my life.
Do you have a photo of this? Can we pull it up?
Oh man, I gotta,
I don't know.
It was like sophomore year of
high school.
I can try to find it.
I'll try my best to find it.
This was a long, long time ago.
2000.
I don't even remember. But either way,
I was fat.
How much did you weigh?
260 pounds.
That's more than what I weigh right now.
Yeah. And you're like, how tall?
6'4".
Yeah. And I'm not um can i text
you or no uh send it to my uh twitter dm twitter dm it to me and then we'll pull it off okay hold
on let me try to figure out how to do this shit i'm gonna send it to myself first i'm stupid
or discord are we friends on discord i don't know that's what i'm saying i don't really add people on discord yeah i don't either um yeah let's do see are we friends on discord
see now we're just we're back to fucking square one hold on hold on why don't you just do twitter
do you not know how to do a twitter do? How do I do Twitter DM from right here?
I hit Twitter and it's going to tweet the photo.
Oh, screenshot it.
So it's the top of your photos.
Okay.
Shot it.
Now go to your Twitter DMs and then pull it up.
God.
My Twitter DM up.
Pulling it up right now.
On. Bang. Boom. up god i want my twitter dm up pulling up right now um bang boom boom there we go
that what is that holy for he just said said holy. God damn. Yo, what the hell was that, bro?
Why are we?
What is that?
God damn.
God damn.
You were a chonker, dude. Dude, what are you saying?
You were thick.
You were a thick boy.
Come on.
Theta Chi boy, too.
Hell yeah, baby.
I'm Theta Delta Chi.
Oh, there you go.
So, yeah, no, I was Jesus.
I was basically a bowling ball.
Chia pet hair.
That is the most New Jersey-ass photo I've ever seen.
Dude, I was a walking meatball.
Dude, that is so awesome.
Throw some sauce on me.
That is a, wait, are you a pork roll, Taylor Ham?
Taylor Ham.
So you were, that was a Taylor Ham egg and cheese.
I'm a North Jersey boy, come on.
Yeah, true.
And then 2017 was when I lost a ton of weight with Maven.
I was working out six days a week.
Went down to like 195 pounds.
Do you have a photo of that?
Yeah.
All right, send that as well.
I want to see it.
Let me go find that now.
Went to 195 pounds.
And it was a bit unsustainable
because I was like chicken, broccoli, rice, miserable,
living life like that.
Really?
You didn't like that?
Okay.
I fucking hated my life.
Oh, okay. That is unsustainable uh about that that is uh and i truly and i felt great don't get me wrong i was really
happy with how i looked but i blew back up after i you you did yo-yo dieting which is what happens
to a lot of people just like yourself uh that and i've done this my entire life as well where you did this thing where you
had an unsustainable diet because you did not love the chicken broccoli rice lifestyle i did not
yeah i did not love it i'm trying to find this picture i'm sorry it's all good no no no worries
uh it's a podcast we can pause it we can fucking cut that is true um that air it's all good but
yeah no i did not like like that lifestyle and then i this past year or yeah
this past year i went up to 239 and now i'm 219 the difference this time is that i've lived a
really sustainable um diet i've had like a really sustainable diet and doing a lot more fasting
which has been really helpful fasting really uh the first time around i lost a
lot of weight fasting yeah i did uh intermittent fasting i did omad which is one meal a day for
those who don't know yep um and of course tracking my calories calories and calories out
um and using my fitness pal to do that and basically logging everything, and it made me lose. I was 200 and I think I was like 320 at my highest,
but when I first started like seriously dieting, I was like 200.
Yeah, I was like 300 pounds, and I went down to 220, 225.
That's when I had a six-pack.
I mean, that's a huge amount of weight.
Holy shit.
Yeah, that is.
God damn, look at this dapper young weight. Holy shit. That, that is, ah,
damn,
look at this dapper young gentleman.
You look better now.
Yeah.
And so I,
I,
and I,
I thank you.
I agree with that.
I think I,
I like much more like that was one 95.
My goal.
If I had a goal weight right now,
it would be like two Oh five with good muscle.
Yeah.
From lifting. I'll never be a 180 pound person or anything like that
you're i mean you're more swagged out now you have like you're you've grown into yeah you've
grown into your uh your body thank you that's what no i but i talk about this all the time like
dudes good facial hair it's like 24 there no it doesn't matter a lot of people don't figure that out i i
look like you know i i couldn't figure it out either and a lot of dudes don't realize like
good facial hair good grooming habits you know what i mean a lot of that goes a very long way
dressing well oh yeah back then i like was barely tailoring clothes and things like that that that
is like a huge factor most dudes don't realize that that's why i always say like every dude can be a seven no matter what you can always improve uh in like
pretty easy and simple ways uh make immediate improvements in your life that will make you
more attractive in general to a broader population people don't want to believe that though um but
yes working out and dieting is the hardest one but the most important one definitely yeah um but yeah i lost all that weight i gained all of it i gained so much weight during covid
i went i shot back up like uh during covid because i was like not working out my mom was living with
me i brought her over here to to live with me yep uh during covid she was just fucking feeding me
she was feeding me i was playing a lot of grand theft auto rp like i was
just not leaving i was a potato yeah i just didn't move at all and um i felt like shit all the
fucking time i was depressed it's crazy how that works yeah and i went back up to like 285 and now
i'm down to 240 249 i'm still trying to get down two 25, but I put a lot of muscle back on.
My muscle is atrophied.
Um,
you know,
I'm still working to get back to my peak shape.
Uh,
and it's been a journey.
It's hard.
You're hot,
bro.
Uh,
thank you.
You're a hot guy.
I don't,
I will.
There's no other way to put it.
I,
I hit it well when I was fat because people were still thinking that I was
like in really good shape when I wasn't. And were still thinking that i was like in really good
shape when i wasn't and it sucked because i was like big black t-shirts that's my yeah that's why
that's how you do it that's how you hide it black is nice and slimming yeah but my my hack this time
for anyone watching that might want to lose weight if you have a nintendo switch three incline on the
treadmill or sorry 10 incline of the treadmill free, and play a turn-based card game like Slay the Spire
or a turn-based anything game.
And take the nunchucks off
and you just kind of walk on the treadmill
while playing the game
as it's resting right there.
And next thing you know,
40 minutes of the treadmill,
I'm dripping sweat,
it flies by,
and it's great.
And then I fast with the Zero Fasting app,
which I actually got from elon musk
oh god thanks elon we don't like elon not too fond of you you have pictures out there of him
yeah you have like signed stuff with x's with x's marked on his eyes no you have it's like
your whole thing is like grimes brought it over when she was here
yeah i am not too fond of him but especially recently
what's funny is no i agree but what's funny is he just tweeted about how the way he was losing
weight was he literally said oh there's this app called the zero fasting app and i looked it up and
i've been using it it's been what is it what is that i i have never said it helps hold me
accountable so like when i'm fasting um i can hit like start fast and program my type of fast so I can see the
benefits to what I'm doing.
It helps me actually see my goals.
And that's interesting.
I,
again,
I like a rank.
I like seeing what I've achieved for everyone.
It is very different.
Like every,
every body is different.
I lost a lot of weight doing OMAD.
I don't do it anymore.
Um, I, uh, usually will break OMAD. I don't do it anymore.
I usually will break my fast, I guess, quote unquote.
If I'm working out, I usually break it with a protein shake in the morning after I'm done working out.
And then I eat lunch and dinner now.
Or if I'm not working out that day, I usually will break it at like around three.
But again, lunch and dinner um and and then
you stream before or after you eat no i i eat during i i straight up during okay yeah i'll i'll
have one of my two meals uh while i'm streaming exactly that's normally me too yeah and you know
people are always like oh bro you're always eating on stream. I'm like, click, ban.
You ban them.
You're not a – dude, if I had a dollar for every time someone tuned into my stream and said, of course, Courage is eating when I tune in, I would have too much money to know what to do with it.
Yeah.
It's just like – this is like, dog, have you thought that maybe I eat at the same time every day and you're tuning in at the same time every day?
Maybe that's the reason. No, they haven't thought that no i know it's just so frustrating at first you're like you
entertain it when you're a smaller streamer you talk about it you're like well this is my only
meal of the day that i'm eating on camera but we give it the time and then and then when you have
30 000 motherfuckers in there and like a hundred of them are saying it in a row click click click
click you pop off like you pop like five of them they're gonna shut the
fuck up quick how many people do you think you've banned in your stream more than 10 000 easy
easy um i know for a fact that i had 10 000 viewers i'd ban all 10 000 but i don't so yeah
i mean this is over the course of many many years and like there have been moments where I've had, you know, 200, 300,000 people or 250.
I think it was my peak during like events that when was that peak?
Was that elections or January 6?
Okay.
Elections was like 150.
Wow.
And then January 6 was 250.
But I mean, we need more insurrections for you.
Well, I mean, I like I like when shit like that's not happening you
know what i mean no i get that um i you know and sorry to bring a soft topic but this reminds me
something is like kind of you kind of been a good little bill of of always on the edge of drama in
my opinion okay part of what you do i couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, man. I couldn't do it. It sucks.
Doesn't it take a burden on you mentally?
It does.
It sucks.
I hate it.
I actually,
contrary to popular opinion,
which people are always like,
Hasan, you're always finding yourself in drama.
I don't like it.
That's why I often,
I want to do positive collaborative relationships
with other streamers.
Like the way that like XQC, for example,
hangs out with like uh kai and
and aiden and all these other people i usually can't do that unfortunately because like you know
they do a lot of stuff or aiden does a lot of shit with like andrew tate or problematic people
and he'll do something or say something that's like dumb and i feel like my community or even
myself sometimes need to address it so i can never have like a positive collaborative relationship.
It feels like,
and I think that sucks.
And the only time I'm like,
quote unquote,
collaborating with people is when they fuck up,
uh,
in a gigantic capacity that like,
it's so much so that it becomes like platform wide or like real world news.
Um,
and I,
I hate that.
I wish it was more like you know i'm just chilling
casually and i play a video game with like would you do a cooking stream with me yeah would you of
course but you're also like you're very brand friendly you're not gonna say anything like
i try to i try to avoid that again because i can't i just can't that that's different though
like i i mean i hang out with like offline tv and and you know the roomies and everyone like that that's entirely different
because like they're never they're very brand safe and also they're they don't have like
problematic opinions or anything like that you know what i mean but i do it does suck sometimes
so i i don't like um i don't like that kind of drama. But if you're asking about real-world news from a drama perspective,
that definitely is burdensome for sure.
Covering police brutality, mass shootings.
The worst is when you actually do have a passionate candidate
that you fully want to support and are publicly supporting like brady
sanders or even like john fetterman in pennsylvania right now um and then he gets stroked out like he
had a fucking massive stroke first day of his campaign looked like he was going to destroy
this guy dr oz yep heard of dr oz yeah uh running for pennsylvania center as a republican now
and then that like renders is that really through a giant,
uh,
mountain of a hurdle on his campaign.
And then you're sitting there and you have to like,
watch this guy try to fucking communicate.
And you know what he used to communicate like,
and it just breaks your soul.
Yeah.
Like that is the,
the worst,
my,
my worst feeling moments are often during controversial instances like mass shootings and whatnot or the invasion of Ukraine, things like that.
But then also when I have the audacity of hope and then it's just like stripped away from me.
That's when it sucks.
That's like really, really sad.
Anyway, I didn't mean to get serious.
We don't do politics on this podcast.
Hey, I enjoyed that conversation. Thank you for answering my question. Yeah, no problem. I think't mean to get serious. We don't do politics on this podcast. Hey, I enjoyed that conversation.
Thank you for answering my question.
Yeah, no problem. I think you did a great job.
You should become a podcast host.
Yeah, this is...
You could really make it. You're lucky
we'll let you host this today.
It's really fun that he
lets me host it quite frequently
by not being here.
It's great.
Yeah, he's a busy boy. Don't worry's what courage and a shot show has definitely been more than a few times where matt's available
and i'm or i'm i'm only available and it's just like all right we got to roll with the punches
yeah it happens but isn't courage and a shot on hiatus it's so interesting it's not it's it was
on hiatus for a bit uh-huh then it came back but
then there was a miscommunication on it being like every two weeks like we never wanted to
be every two weeks we just wanted to really have episodes that we cared about we oversold it the
year prior why you guys never asked me to be on it because you cared about the episodes you were
like yeah we just knew this episode would suck that's interesting i mean i
don't know man we have people because when thieves who help get the guests yeah because when jhb had
me on his show they build it to me as though like not build it but like they sold the idea of me
going on as i was going on the courage and nade shot show you weren't on our podcast no
i feel like we would have first off that's just stupid you weren't yeah i was never asked okay
well the only time i was asked to be on a podcast was the jhb show i apologize which is not the
courage and nade shot show no okay jhb is fantastic yeah he's great um but i think i think matt and i
are also you know in the three years over three years we've been doing it, life takes a lot of turns.
Matt's planning a wedding.
He just got a house.
100 Thieves has grown a lot more since then where it was like, oh, Matt was in every video.
Now he's helping launch an energy drink, helping plan a game behind the scenes, helping with our future apparel, like things like that. And then for my end, I'm helping more behind the scenes than ever before with content planning,
especially for 2023 and how I'm spilling YouTube secrets to a hundred thieves
and try to help them from a channel approach that we've gone very much from
like being one of the only four people that can be on camera to like,
Hey,
we're helping a lot more move,
you know,
move the yard line forward behind the scenes.
Is that football terms?
I don't know.
I don't watch football.
Yeah, neither do I.
But yeah, so I think right now I would love to keep the Courage and HL show going,
but at the same time, it's both busy, very busy.
On that note, you just said spilling youtube secrets and guess what we are going to be
doing that however not on the free episode but behind a paywall oh my god yeah we don't want to
we don't want to give this good stuff so out of touch what do you oh we i am behind a paywall
yeah oh yeah for of course uh this is how we pay this is how we pay this is how we pay marsh's salary as a matter of fact uh patreon.com oh yeah page well when he was treated so badly
when he's not fucking up the audio when he's not fucking up the audio marsh yeah i mean every time
i saw him at a shoot 100 thieves i just knew this it was gonna go haywire. Yeah. We will talk about that drama as well.
Boss versus former employee.
Oh, my God.
Patreon.com slash fear end if you want to see the juicy bits.
What do you want to promote?
Where can people find you?
I just want to promote everyone having a happy and healthy holiday season.
Okay, but where can people find you?
Courage JD everywhere.
All right, everybody.
On that note,
we'll see you on the other side
past paywall.
Peace.
Maybe it's because
I look it up on Pornhub
and stuff,
but it's like not very good.
I also can't find myself
like I would never
like read something
and jerk off to it.
I'm surprised these books
aren't like stuck together
for how much you
probably use these.
That's a nice cock. Perfect cock. use these. That's a nice cock.
Perfect cock.
Good cock.
Now that's a nice cock.
Who else has got?
By the way, we are fulfilling our contractual obligation to talk about penises every episode.
This is great.
We literally talk about dicks every episode.
I've realized.
I think, you know what it is?
The dick is really underappreciated.