Fear& - Is AI Inevitable? (Ft. Asmongold, Tectone & Emiru) | Fear&Eggs

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

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Yeah. you ever watch Breaking Bad yeah bro I just watched it for the first time oh my god oh you went out

it was good it was so fucking good then I immediately watched Better Call Saul oh okay I was gonna say that's what I'm watching right now

you're just fucking fired bro you haven't finished Better Call Saul no I'm like in the last season couple episodes in oh my god

Bob Odenkirk in Better Call Saul being nominated for 130 different Emmys and never winning one. I saw a compilation of that. Yeah. He is so good.

Yeah. That's your smash. I'm going to go like El Camino, right? That was the movie. The Breaking Bad movie. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that there was a Breaking Bad movie.

What the fuck? Yeah, it was like wrapping up Jesse's story. Oh, I didn't know that there was a Breaking Bad movie. What the fuck? It was like wrapping up Jesse's story. Oh, that's coming out? It's been out. It was out like three years ago. It just kind of happened. It kind of went under the radar. I feel like not a lot of people really paid attention to it.

It's really good. I didn't even know it existed, but I just went on a Better Call Saul tear, and oh my God, it's so freaking good. This is how we start our podcast, by the way. Welcome, welcome. You might be like, what's going on? Why are you guys not in your studio? Wait, did we actually start?

Yep. Oh, I thought we were still on snack break. Oh, no, this is how we do it. We just like start. We just casually start. Let's spring it on people. Okay. Sorry, I didn't realize that was a little bit of a jump scare.

Yeah, you might be like, what's going on? Why aren't you at your studio? That's because I'm in Austin, Texas, here with Will Ebersavage Neff III, and graciously we were allowed to film inside of the Steak and Eggs podcast studio. Yeah. With OTK.

Which rules. Studio meaning warehouse. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's a $40 billion super compound. They got like turrets out there. It's dope. For stream snipers. Yeah.

Sponsored by Starforge. They got it all. Everything is in motion. We have a lot to talk about today. We have some wonderful guests. We got Asmongold, Emeru, Tectone in the building. And I am very excited. First order of business.

Yeah. I think we got to address the elephant in the room. Which one? Asmongold has been hasanabied. Oh, thank God. Thank God. All right. Finally. Yeah, we can talk about it. has been hasanabied oh thank god thank god all right you've been yeah you have been you you

you for those of you at home who are unfamiliar maybe you don't go on twitter too much and you know you spare yourself the madness you had a take i did you had a take about ai and pal world and ai art in general and it was i assume a much more refined take but the first fucking hours but the version that made it to the interwebs was not so refined now you and i might even have disagreements on the ai component but what you and i do not have disagreements on is that once that happened and i saw it and it is definitely a hot button issue for obvious reasons. AI is displacing a lot of parts of the sector, but specifically with art.

Yep. A lot of artists who are already, you know, struggling to make ends meet with their art are seeing that like AI is training on their work and, and all of that is very frustrating. Very passionate people came after you. They're very passionate.

But they didn't stop there. They started looking at other stuff that you were saying. That's right. Specifically to clip that and be like, this guy sucks. And like, keep going. Keep going on the, this guy sucks bender. Yeah. Yeah.

Happens to me weekly. Yeah. I am Happens to me weekly. Yeah. I am known for hot takes. And I wanted to hear your perspective on it. I'm completely fine with it. It doesn't bother me at all. I mean, I'm on a public platform. I'm giving my public opinion.

People can respond publicly. I think that's just how it is. Now, obviously, it would be nice if more of the viral tweets were about my argument and not my room but you know that's just what fucking happens that's what happens and and so i i thought about going and making a tweet explaining what i was saying or talking about it but then i remembered that once people have made up their mind that you're wrong well then you're fucking wrong and that's it like why would like if you tell them that they're wrong about you being wrong, now they're wrong.

Well, they're not going to like that. Dude, I saw, like, seven tweets where you're, like, trying to, like, talk to some of these commenters. Right. And then they would agree that you're right, because you were, and then say, but you were still mean about it.

Well, I was a huge asshole about it. And, like, it's true, right? And it makes me think, like, because, you know, I'm sure, San, you think about this, too. It's like, whenever you communicate, it's like, is your method to create controversy or is it to spread a message?

And how do you spread a message with controversy? Is this becoming counterproductive, right? And I think about this. And so it's like, was I being counterproductive? I don't know. In a way, yes. But in a way, a lot of people are talking about it. So it's hard to say.

Well, I think what you were talking about in maybe a less than tactful way is the inevitability of AI as opposed to the kind of morality of it. Absolutely. Yeah. And that's the problem, right? It's like people, it's like, I think it's important that you have to acknowledge like, this is what I think people are going to do not what i think they should do or you know what would be what what things should be like but like for example like we all saw like the taylor swift ai stuff and like all that that's completely fucked it was wild it was awful right and so i actually think that there should be laws against like trying to like impersonate somebody with ai i mean it, it's common sense. Well, there already are. It's impersonation.

It's just to be applied to that too. So I don't think it's necessarily like my perspective is really any different than a lot of other people's. It's just that whenever I try to communicate it, especially like you're streaming eight hours a day. Oh, yeah. You can have one minute of being an asshole. I think that it's just a lot of people,

especially artists heard your take and like it felt like there wasn't empathy there for for artists so they're like oh he doesn't care about how this affects me or how this makes me uncomfortable but i mean it was like a condensed take so like the misunderstanding was cut there were a lot of cuts in the video but what was your take well yeah basically what i'm saying is that like a consumer, I don't think really, are people going to actually care about AI in terms of a functional difference of consuming a product? And I don't, I haven't seen evidence for that. Well, I would say that you're right in that we also have a really good test market in that consumers, particularly in the United States, don't give a fuck about anything they consume, right? The majority of the things they consume at this point are unethical.

Absolutely. From the meat they use to the clothes they wear. If they're using a phone that was made in a sweatshop, why would they care if something was made by a robot? Everything is created in profoundly unethical ways. Absolutely. I think this is ironic because like AI literally is the exact same

in that same exact vein where it's like further exploitative because then it's like eradicating the human component. Particularly a hot button issue because now we are the ones that are suffering, right? It is the first time that that ethical dilemma has touched Americans or, you know or people that we are close to. And ultimately, I hope that it is kind of an awakening that it's like, wait a minute, we can vote with our dollars.

We can vote with our eyes. I don't think we can. Well, I mean, here's the thing. Did you see, this is like a fucking gaming bullshit drama thing. Sure. But the Yakuzaza one of the recent games for yakuza uh paywalled the new game plus yeah and i told everybody i said guys we're making another video complaining about gaming and this isn't gonna change anything but if we all stop

buying it it would never happen again and it's like it's so disappointing that like people don't have that consult that like solidarity this is so disappointing it all went downhill with the horse armor that was it it was that was the first moment where we went from like expansions which were standalone games right to actually maybe we can make extra money with like little maybe just a little bit maybe just a little bit was that oblivion yeah yeah yeah that's out Todd Hover for that. Why is that significant? The first one.

It was the first paid DLC. It was a horse armor and everybody said, oh, it's just a horse armor. It doesn't matter. And I'm like, people are saying, oh, it's just New Game Plus. It doesn't matter. I'll see you in five years. Yeah. And here we are. I mean, look, even people that criticized at the time, like,

fire. It is so sexy. It's sexy. But see, we're doing it. We're dumb. There it is. But that's the reason why you need, like,

regulation. How can we train ourselves as consumers to be more discerning about the products we are consuming? I don't think you can. Plus, also,

here's the second part. No, no, you can't. Fuck, man. You can't. But also, here's the other thing I was going to say. The only test is this, and this is the part of your argument that I actually do agree with. Yeah.

If it's good, people will buy it. We just talked about Chick-fil-A. Yeah. Chick-fil-A is homophobic. They hate gays. Gay people love Chick-fil-A, dog. Yeah. Gay people will consume it.

We eat that shit daily. Okay? It's good. If it was was bad no one would purchase it the thing with ai right now is that it's very bad but it's getting really good at an alarming rate so what do you mean it's very bad like ethically or like the where the state is no no no like quality you're talking about quality quality is just bad like you'll okay i've played some ai games on stream and um it's it's fun because it's so bad for the time being like if you do those like detective games or whatever it's it's not a game at all it's just really really bad it's really buggy it's really broken the ai sucks um there's like a very specific way that the ai talks as well and it's like you can kind of comprehend that. And I feel like that will actually start seeping

into our collective consciousness, just like how, you know, TikTok has ruined an entire generation's way of speaking and other stuff too. But specifically the way people say unalived in the real world now. Oh God, porn instead of porn, yeah. Yeah, so like that kind of stuff. Assault with two asterisks instead of S.

Yeah, so that will also seep into our collective conscience, like the chat GPT way of speaking, I think. But right now, overall, like mid-journey, fine. There's like some visual quirks to it, but it will get really good. And I've always been an advocate that like AI, just like every other tool, is supposed to be

something that alleviates the stress the tension from people who are normally using that it empowers them yeah it is supposed to be an empowering tool but of course it's not going to be an empowering tool because the bosses see that and go oh just fuck you all right no more i'm not paying you anymore why would i give you money for graphic design when this fucking machine can do it for free if I buy the software? And that's what the major issue is, which is why I'm an advocate for regulation. But this is not a political podcast, so I'm not going to be talking about that aspect of it that much.

I think AI is going to be insane in GTA 6, where every single interaction with an NPC is going to be different for every single person. Has that been stated? I never heard that. I have heard lots of rumors they're going to be using AI for GTA 6. Okay, so it hasn't been stated. I'll Google it. Okay.

I doubt it. I highly doubt it. Yeah, I don't think that Rockstar is going to invest themselves in tarnishing the release of GTA 6 because AI is still really hot button. Well, I think, yeah, I mean AI is not there yet. AI is so hot button. Like, let's put this in perspective. The conversation you had about AI. Okay, real quick.

Okay. According to the report, GTA 6 may include enhanced NPC interactions incorporating generative AI. Similar to Red Redemption According to a report. What does that mean? Which website is it? This is Live Mint and also Gaming Bible. I feel like that sounds like a fucking AI-generated website.

Game Bible. AI is trying to convince us that it exists. I've heard it and seen it everywhere, and I think it would be insane. What I wanted to dial back and say is the conversation around AI is so hot that your conversation stemmed from Palworld, right? Which, let's put something in perspective.

There's no evidence. There's no evidence that AI was even used in Palworld. It was released before AI could even make shit like that. Even to the fact that it's on Steam means that they actively lied to Steam because Steam asks you if you have AI in the game. And so they would have had to lie to Steam and even had it on their first play. And the evidence that people have is that the main investor is a tech bro. Yeah.

He is. And he's a very big advocate of AI. He's expressed that on Twitter. And there's a lot of fake stuff about Paladin. Well, the thing is the person that did the video of like the side-by-side with those different models admitted that he faked it because he didn't like the fact that they were like. It was animal cruelty in the game. Like it's even his pinned tweet. I saw this yesterday.

Yeah, the guy who did the tweet that's like, oh, they completely ripped the models from Pokemon. He edited the model to match the other one, but, and he did it because he didn't like the animal abuse. Let's say it out loud. Just because we don't identify or talk about the animal cruelty in Pokemon doesn't mean it doesn't exist. My mom didn't like Pokemon because of that, even in 1998. You're keeping animals in cramped balls.

You're forcing them to fight. Well, okay, they're not cramped balls. In Pokemon Episode 17, they actually show the inside of a Pokemon. It's pretty big, right? It's very big. It has a habitat that they're not cramp balls. In Pokemon Episode 17, they actually show the inside of a Pokeball. It's pretty big, right? It's very big. It has a habitat that they're comfortable in, like Squirtles. There's like a little rock with a Pokeball on it.

Okay, what about Arceus? What about the hundreds of years of legacy that you were putting Pokemon in wooden balls? Yep, that's fucked up. Yeah, it's fucked up, though. I don't want to insult God. Yeah, PokeGod. Oh, also, real quick, one billion lions or one of every Pokemon in the fight? Who wins?

Oh, one of every Pokemon. Yeah. It's not even a question. Okay, I'm not realizing, bitch. I'd fuck this shit up. Okay, here. We have to talk about something. Yeah, okay.

This is pal 69. They're farming. They are farming. Yeah. Okay, you guys both have that reaction, and he had this reaction. I have no sexual impulse to this animal well i don't have a sexual impulse but i can see why somebody else would yeah i can recognize you know what i mean i can see the intention i mean okay well then maybe you'll believe me i have no attraction to

it but i recognize the intent you way that it walks in game? No. So sexy. Okay. So she does the foot in front of the foot thing. Like she's doing the saunter, right? Number one. Number two.

It's pinched to the side of her titties. And it goes even farther. She only comes out at night. She is a night Pokemon or pal excuse me and then the heart is clearly supposed to be some big ass titties yeah and she has like a crotch she has a crotch heart too

I need a video of this thing in game please YouTube YouTube I mean come on what are we talking about those are bird legs sure they are you wanna fuck that? I said I'm not attracted to it. I just recognize the intent

of the design. Why is it wrong to want to fuck it? Why are y'all so against fucking it? It's not that I'm against it. It's just that it's not real. Am I going to spend all my time thinking about this? It's just... Yeah, there it is. It's out at night. Wait, wait. I got to see it yeah you know what's

really funny about this game it's like it's a lot of fun for sure but it's also like as far as okay it's got a hand on a hand an absolute dog shit game you think so well it what games need to be fun first and foremost and it nails it on that front but it's a dog shit game and there's like the ai is busted. It is fucking garbage. Can I say something though? Compared to when the latest Pokemon game came out,

this game functions 100% better. And that's what it comes down to, right? Game Freak is really bad. I've said this from the beginning. Pal World's success is more evidence that Game Freak has been doing such a woeful job by its community

Yeah, yeah that their fans are okay. What's going on here crazy? Yeah, you know something else I haven't seen why is it have heart eyes you never seen that shit? I wonder why she about to breed What you ever seen her chillin in the in the hot tub chills their hearts in her eyes clothes I'm smiling so so welcoming, so wet, so inviting. All right, guys. You know what I mean? You guys get what I'm saying about, like, it's a bad game in the sense that, like, all of the stuff, all the fixings that you need for a game to work, like, a story, for example.

There is no, I don't know. It doesn't have anything. There's, like, a couple of lore things. Like, you pick them up up and you read them on a smartphone and it's like who gives i didn't read a single one they do a little bit like yeah they do a little bit of like a like a souls born type like maybe we'll feed you the lore shit but i feel like they kind of gave up on it like there's not really too much going on okay so then what's the story of pokemon red i know that off you know what i'm saying off rip it's a kid you're

a kid fucking pokemon okay but there's, you're a born-to-catch-fucking-Pokemon. Okay, but there's also, you're like fighting against gym trainers. Yeah, same thing with Paloalto. There's gym trainers. You are the lab assistant to Professor Oak, a Pokemon scientist who has revolutionized the process of documenting and catching Pokemon.

And after his nephew is empowered with one of his private collection, he takes pity on you and gives you a Pokemon so that you can start your life as a Pokemon trainer. Yep. Gary doesn't like that. And then you catch them all and become the very best and then take on

the Elite Four. That no one ever was. Did you ever know the lore of the PC? Why it's called Bill's PC? That lore is insane. Oh, look into that. Why it's called Bill's PC. You meet him. Oh, yeah.

You meet him after you beat the Nugget Road, and he's in that thing, and you see him, and he's a Pokemon at first, transforms into a human. That's Bill. He's the PC. Yep, and then you fight fucking Mewtwo. The same thing with Power World, okay?

You're just a kid who wants to collect all the pals and bring order to the world. And maybe fuck the 69th pal there. Yeah. Well, it's like Rust. What's the story in Rust? Yeah. Right.

Yeah, there isn't one. And so I think that as long as the game is compelling and it's fun to play, that's all that really matters. Everything else, like the story, the, you know, lip syncing, the voice lines, all that doesn't really make a big difference. Hot dino pussy. Yo, no, I agree with you on that front where it's like... For sure.

It is a testament to how much Game Freak stands to make the greatest, most compelling, revolutionary IP that changes genre-defining IP of all time. Well, I mean, two things that are true. Two things that are true. Game Freak has never made a truly open-world game at this point to this day. They have not.

They tried with R-Series. It was terrible. Well, it's still not fully open-world. You, like, move to those locations. Two, there has never been a Pokemon game with every Pokemon in it. No, true. To this day.

Because they had version lock. Yeah, you're right. That made sense in 1998. Because what was it? Pokemon Red and Blue was like, there was the Sandshrew exclusive and then... I don't remember. Okay.

Gold, silver. Maybe Pokemon Go has every Pokemon in it now. No, they're not allowed. I maybe Pokemon stadium too, but like, I think Pokemon stadium did. Yeah.

Yeah. The thing is, um, there's also one other component in power world that we're not really talking about that, like game freak or anything that's like genuinely associated with Nintendo will ever be able to do, which is beating the living shit out of Pokemon with a weapon or even shooting them

or even using their like Pokemon power as a gun. Pokemon power. It is so funny that as Americans, like we heard that. We're like, what a meme. And then we literally couldn't control our boners. We need this. Everybody loves it. Everybody loves it.

And I don't think that Game Freak will ever do that because, and I told you this as well, Nintendo has very strict controls over this IP and they obviously already have the nostalgia bait for the millennial generation that grew up with Pokemon. But their goal is to sell fucking toys to the younger generation and develop brand loyalty. And if you want to do that, you can't fuck the Pokemon and you can't beat up the Pokemon. I'm a silent game freak.

You must not fuck the Pokemon. You must not beat the Pokemon. Number of days since last incident. So that's never going to happen. They're never going to, they're never, ever, ever going to make a game where you can like actually fight the Pokemon directly. Maybe the Pokemon can harm you, which Arceus had a little bit of, not a lot.

But beyond that, it was still like limited into that turn-based combat, for example, in the same exact classic structure. And I think that a lot of that could change and it should change after pal world i hope they do change it well i think that they should i mean it's a great idea but you're right it's like i remember watching nintendo direct and thinking wow these are all games for kids and i was thinking after that wait when did

i play a lot of nintendo yeah it's like of course they are that's what what it is. I'm like, yeah, sure, you'll have, you know, the remaster of Super Mario RPG or something like that for, like, an older audience. But, yeah, Nintendo is for a younger audience. And for a much older audience, too. Like, they basically hit, like, they try to max out on every demographic they can. Nostalgiabate for, like, the millennials.

Yeah. And for, like, the elderly to play with their, like, children. They also just make really solid games. Yeah, that too. Which is kind of what makes Pokemon an anomaly. But you got Hasan Abid. You got canceled by the internet. But it wasn't a real cancellation.

I think it's important that you also recognize that because, like, you click baited. Getting canceled is getting deplatformed. Yeah, you click baited it is like i got canceled and people saw the uh they didn't watch the two-hour video of course nobody would ever fucking do that and then of course nobody i mean people of course watch the video but like no one that wants to make a point is gonna do that of course um so they because then they might actually follow your logic threat yeah they uh they screenshotted you and said you didn't get actually canceled dumbass people just yelled at you and it's like i think everybody understands that at this point it's like i mean to be honest

i have no oversight for my youtube at all like my editors do everything uh they're paid a percentage and that's it and so like like, obviously I can say that, but it's still my YouTube channel. I'm still giving them the pat on the back, the go ahead for it. So it's still my responsibility, but I actually didn't really make the title, but yeah, you can get mad at me for that. But is it a good title?

Is it a clicky title? It's a great title. Yeah, it's a good clickbait title. It did. It's one of the minors. But the point is, it was supposed to be about Pal World. Then it was about AI.

And now it's about you in particular. And now it's about like what's wrong with you and everything else that's wrong with you. And it is fascinating to see like that cycle that I go through on a regular basis. Sometimes relatively warranted, but in my personal opinion, in most instances, not really warranted.

And that just kind of like builds up. And I feel like it makes a lot of spaces toxic, especially online. Well, I think the two of you represent something that has been dangerous to man and woman since the dawn of time. You're two men who don't want anything from anyone. And I think that vexes people to no

end people that are able to exist independently of the machine represent a threat to it of course right yeah your lifestyle is threatening to people because they're like why doesn't he want our approval yeah it is weird it's very weird whenever people are like oh well i would do this if i had this much money i'd do that if i had that much money and it's like i understand and like i can never be another person and i'm actually not judgmental about people that feel that way and it's like if you want to buy all this stuff and it really makes you happy then you should do that on that front we were on the exact opposite too because i do like luxury goods and shit. However, people will be like, oh, he bought this for me. Like he bought this to flex on me.

He's like, no, dude, I bought it because I like it. Like, I don't give a fuck what you think. That part is true. But also, I do care about one thing. I do want people to be charitable. I want people to approach what I have to say with like a level of charitability which usually doesn't happen online at all and it increasingly got worse i think on twitch over the course of the past year you think that's what i wanted to talk about with my austin trip specifically i feel like this platform thrives on collaboration and like, you know, having content creators talking to one another in real time.

And collaboration is what? And it's bare bones. It's just like two content creators interacting with one another and their communities like interacting with one another. Right. Now, that collaborative effort or that interaction could be negative, and it could be two content creators debating one another, myself and XQC, for example. Saw that. Right? Or whatever.

I heard that. Or it could be two content creators actually interacting with one another in a positive way. And I feel like Twitch, for the most part, especially like in its inception or, I mean, since I've been on it, I never thought I would be the old guard one day. But when I first got on it, it was definitely way more collaborative in a positive way.

And I think over the course of the past year, especially so, it became very negative. Every interaction was basically tarnished. It had like this stink on it, no matter what. And I think a lot of people became islands in and of themselves. And that's part of the reason why I wanted to come down here and like hang out with with you guys and like do more of that kind of stuff, because it is very enjoyable. It's what normal people do. And I think that's the problem, right? It's like you stream so much,

you're doing so much of this other stuff, you forget that the other people you're interacting with are probably normal people who have probably more in common with you than most average people, right? I mean, who else sits in a room all day and like talks to a camera? It's a very unique lifestyle. So yeah, I totally agree with you. I think the reason why is that like, especially after like the 2020 COVID boom, you saw like some people getting dragged on Twitter for like saying something for having an opinion about, you saw like some people getting dragged on Twitter for like saying something for having an opinion about, you know, let's say COVID that's like uneducated or uninformed. And like, I think that a lot of people nowadays are much more gun shy to like interact

with other people or talk to other people, because they're afraid of like, what could happen? Because like, I had a lot of people message me, for example. And like, I'm sure like, you know, some of those times, whenever you're trending everybody's shitting you it bothers you other times it probably doesn't there's probably a spectrum right and um you know they were like are you okay is everything okay I'm like yeah I'm fine right but like whenever I first started especially like some of those things would stress me out and it would be like oh my god this is really upsetting and so like if it's a person who doesn't really have like the mentality or isn't used to dealing with that kind of stuff and then they just get put like i think

that joe cat guy who's that tech tone yeah he's the guy who said he loves girls yeah yeah yeah and he like he he said so i don't remember what it was he said he likes skinny girls or thick girls he made he likes all girls joe cat is an animator who made like a meme on his own stream and then like turned that meme into an animation that went super viral many years ago. A person I actually know jokingly was like, I made this. And like

because it's like a meme on Twitter to be like I made this and it's like actually cringe. And you're basically showing, because it was very cringe. We can show the video if you want. March, can you pull that up? Joe Cat. You've probably heard the audio of it. Yeah. Yeah, it was super cringe if we can show the video if you want march can you pull that up joe cat i heard the audio of it yeah yeah it was super popular so yeah the audio was really popular and and it certainly is cringe i mean this is but like i got canceled he didn't actually get canceled but like well he kind of did because he stopped making a lot of people were a lot of people attacked him and he wasn't able to deal with that. He stepped away from making content.

I think he's still doing some things, but he did take a big step away. And, like, I think that's why people are gun-shy and don't like to collab. Yeah, I think that's a big part of it. Can we hear some volume? Oh, yeah. Can we hear the volume or no? Oh, there's no volume? He's just saying, I like girls, then pointing to girls.

Yeah, and it's like skinny girls, itty bitty girls, big titty girls. It's based off of another song where it's a girl talking about how much they love men. But then they made it a song for a guy that loves women. And because you can't have that. Why are people mad at that? Yep. If you listen to it, you'd be like, it's cringe. It is cringe.

Because it is. But it's like, he's very talented. That's the funniest part. Like, he's such a talented animator. Like, it's obvious. But yeah, he's, as one of my friends called it, gay for women. I think I'm gay for women. Yeah.

So, but it was cringe and everybody yelled at him for being cringe because I think a lot of people online like treat cringe as like there's two things that people can't stand online.'s the perception of hypocrisy even if none is there yeah but you've assumed that there's hypocrisy there and also cringe if you combine these two things people online who are one inherently hypocritical as every human is and two uh very cringe because you're fucking posting online of course you're cringe you're just doing it anonymously so you can hide most of it they we hate ourselves we hate what we see uh we the worst aspects of ourselves we've seen others and we go ah i want to take you to cringe prison i think you're right about that those are the two main things but i think that the reason why they're so popular is that it gives the person who's complaining the ability to insert themselves as being superior right so like for example this

is cringe implies that i'm above this yeah this is hypocritical implies that like i'm morally consistent yeah so it's like it's built around basically like uh fueling the ego of these people more than anything i think that's why those are the two main popular things it makes people feel very comfortable in a group of people you're in in a crowd. You're invisible in many ways, but you're also showcasing that you are not cringe, but this person is. Anyway, let's move on from this topic. I feel

like we are... We haven't asked Emeru anything so far. Oh, I got questions for Emeru. Emeru, you're about to beat a bitch up. About to beat a bitch up? Oh yeah, Techie doesn't know this. I guess I'm about to beat a bitch up. About to beat a bitch up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Techie doesn't know this. What is this? I guess I'm about to start a fighting training at Iron Fudge.

Yeah. I thought you were talking about Moini and Elden Ring. I thought that's what he was doing. What's his style? Like boxing or like Muay Thai. Am I saying that right? I don't know. Yeah, Muay Thai, yeah.

Yeah, Muay Thai. Who are you going to beat up? I don't know. Like, I just want to learn how to do it. But then I was thinking that because I was like, okay, well, that right i don't know yeah yeah yeah who are you gonna beat up i i don't know like i i just want to learn how to do it but then i was thinking that because i was like okay well most people who like go train at these gyms are bigger than me stronger than me they've been training for a long time so it's like well then who could i fight but i'll fight you who will fight me well emily already said that she would fight me and she has a little bit of boxing training she's someone that's around

my size but i think i mean i just want to learn and then also with doing the fighting I also have to train like weights and stuff I have to get stronger so I mean it's something that I've thought about doing for a while than everyone's been doing stuff at the gym which I was like kind of sad because for a while I was kind of scared to go to the gym like it's such like a public location and stuff yeah but seeing everyone there was like okay it's probably not that big of a deal. It will be the best decision you ever make. I've been going to the gym every day now for a month and two weeks. I can't stop. It's my favorite thing.

I would love to see you with some traps. Traps? Trapezius muscles. Yeah. And treat it like a video game. I'm a muscle mommy. Yeah. I don't know if I could do that, but.

Treat it like a video game where every time you go, you're like, oh, plus two strength. Yeah. It makes it so much more fun. I love it. I do that for everything. Seriously, though, if you had to fight someone. If I had to fight someone?

If you're putting together a prize fight. Oh, I know. Lily Pichu. Lily Pichu. Oh, God. Why? She's vicious. You know, I mean, similar build probably.

She doesn't have the killer instinct that you do, so it's easy buckets. That's what you think, though. You think Lily doesn't have the killer instinct? Compared to you? That's easy buckets. That's what you think, dog. You think Lily doesn't have the killer instinct? Compared to you? That's what you think. You played League for fun. Lily got excited when Michael Reeves was fighting. She got into it.

Oh, shit. She was a big fan of it. I think she'd take that fight. I think she's got that dog in her. I wouldn't undermine her. I would pay American dollars to watch you guys. I think it would be really funny to fight Lily. Yeah, I would do that.

Oh, my God. What a title fight. Tectone, you're built like a power lifter that just quit lifting many years ago. Tectone, if you shaved your beard, you would look like the creative character in every NBA game before you start working on that. I like a troll from World of Warcraft. That's what I prefer. So, what's up with that?

Are you going to take some fucking steroids and man up or not? I used to do steroids. Oh, really? I didn't know that. Do you have photos? Actually, I have a couple. You're jacked. You said he wrestled. Yeah, I did professional wrestling at Austin Anarchy Pro Wrestling. It was a very fun time.

I got injured very quickly. What did you hurt? Broken dick. Yeah, I did professional wrestling at Austin Anarchy Pro Wrestling. It was a very fun time. I got injured very quickly. And my sternum. Yeah, broken dick. Sternum got really fucked up. And then my coach, his name was Ray, wanted me to be a luchador because he thought I was too fucking ugly to not wear a mask. That's awesome. Which was insane, by the way.

And I'm like, all right. Get up on that top rope, Techie. He said you got a face built for radio. I did the same steroids that Canute currently uses, which is, it's like rub on medical grade, where you rub them on your chest, and then it puts the test, god damn. Yeah, you like that?

Wow. That was unexpected. Canute does topical steroids? Yeah, yeah. The fuck? You rub it on, the testosterone goes up. Yeah, I've never heard of that. Can even... You rub it on, the testosterone goes up. I didn't know you could even do that. Yeah, you can. I've never done it before.

Can you jelk with that to get extra length? Oh, really? But I will admit, like, that shit fucks you up. Even the shit that you rub on is not good. Yeah, definitely. But you get really big really fast. Because it's not that steroids make you stronger. It's that they give you the ability to train harder.

Yeah, more capacity. Exactly. So you get juiced really quick. But yeah, I mean, right now I'm still out benching what I used to anyways. Just because Camp Canute changed my fucking life, which hope to God we do a season two. Oh, I think that's happening. Yeah, it needs to happen 1 million percent.

And yeah, I'm enjoying it now more than ever just because I just play video games and I go with my homies. It's very nice. I go with a group of I go with my homies. It's very nice. I go with a group of like seven people like every day. It's so fun. If I worked out with Canute for 30 days, I would die.

It's actually the best. Because like there's a lot, like look, I'm a relatively experienced lifter doing this for 10 years now. You know, I've had my ups and downs for the most part. But when I'm around someone like Canute, he has this energy. It's easy, Hasan.

Yeah. Five more reps, Hasan. He just makes me push way harder than I normally would. Oh, yeah. And because, like, I have something to prove to him because I respect his size. Yeah. He's a specimen, right? He becomes like a father figure. Yeah,

where you're like, I have to show him that I'm capable. I can't let father figure. Where you're like, I have to show him that I'm capable. I can't let my dad down. Yeah, exactly. I have to show him that I'm capable of this. Tell me you're proud, dad. And it's just like I am in so much pain. Good pain, not bad pain. From working out

these past two days where we did chest the first day and then legs the next day and everything hurts right now. And I don't know if I can do that for 30 days straight. I would like to. I think you would be surprised at how much you're capable of

when you're doing an exercise regimen with somebody who cares about you with seven other people that are your friends. Yep. And you do it every day and it's like hanging out with your best friends, getting jacked together, motivating each other to get stronger, and the best thing, motivating your audience to do the same.

Yeah. It's the best. Yeah. So do it. You guys are going to be a part of this as well. Oh, fuck. Now. Oh, fuck.

We saw you in there, man. You were putting up, you were bench pressing. The bar. Yeah. So? I mean, look, man. You were putting up, you were bench pressing. The bar. Yeah. So? I mean, look, don't let anybody make fun of you. The internet wants you to get jacked. Yeah, that's a lot.

I don't know, man. Stone cold gold. Like, the real reason why I haven't really tried to, like, work out or gain weight is that I feel like the way that I live is a medical anomaly. And I don't want to fuck up some sort of like internal equilibrium, right? I'll start working out. Trump said that too. Where he was like, he literally was like,

I don't want to, and it's true, he lives on Diet Coke and McDonald's. Yeah. And he's going on, he's 75, 76 years old. And so I'm like,

guys, I'm 33. I feel good. Yeah, I've had a problem with my back a little bit, but other than that, I feel great all the time. Do you ever contemplate, though, that you might just really have good genetics,

and if you worked out and were healthy, they'd give you to be even better? Yeah. So you're wasting your genetic potential? Oh, shit. A little bit. God, your rants would go so hard, too, if you were just shirtless and jacked.

Yeah, if you were hydraulic. Oh, God, bro. God damn, dude. You might save the young men of this country if you get absolutely strapped. I mean, somebody needs to. I feel like there's a lot of them. There's a lot of, you know,

internet dads out there. Yeah. They're all deadbeat dads who love cryptocurrency and also suspiciously are telling you, you know, one, women ain't shit, and two, you can make money by joining my Discord server and learning about financial tips and tricks. Baller University, baby.

Yeah, hell yeah. I mean, if you could fight any character from lore or history or otherwise... Who would win? You or Kirby? Kirby. Kirby owns. What? You or Kirby? Kirby. Kirby owns. What the fuck? He's so over here.

Yeah. Who would you fight, though? Mariah, Nikki. Anyone. I love to beat the shit out of Manus. That's not going to happen. But if I could... No, he's asking if I could.

Oh, okay. I would fucking kill him. Manus Dark Souls, extra... What's it called? DLC content. Yes. Fuck that guy. Okay. Why is there so much hate in your heart for him yeah because i i fought him for like six

hours and i i almost cried more importantly that's your nameless king yeah she went into dark souls with a big fucking ego and she was very much ahead of me on deaths oh we yeah we did a death race i was like a 100 deaths ahead. And then at the very end, I died to this one guy like 80 times. And it went all downhill on that one boss. That was it. And I did end up winning. Yeah.

Yep. Listen. By two. Anybody in lore, video game? Ooh, I don't fucking know. He's got a long rope. He's got a long bro. He's got a list. This is the lore guy. You can ask him anything

about WoW. He'll know the year it came out to. Cook for two seconds. For me, I'd fight Blackbeard from One Piece. Oh. Wow. I mean, he'd rip you. I hate that motherfucker so much. He's got gravity. He's got so much. He's got everything. He's got everything. And the worst thing is he's not done and wonder why he's gonna kill

Speculation So first he's gonna kill Trafalgar law, I know that's gonna to happen. But remember, no one else here watches One Piece, or do you? No, they know. I only know like up to where like the Netflix show is. I am currently, where am I? Zoa, and then I think I finished, I just finished Dressrosa. Yep, you're in a great spot. Or about to finish Dressrosa.

Yep, you're in a very good spot. Yeah, it's so good. I'm going to say how it ends. The One Piece is on the moon, and it gives people... Oh, with Skypiea. Yep, and it's going to give Luffy the ability to connect all the islands

and make the world One Piece like Pangea. Whoa. Okay, that's actually kind of sick. If that's correct, someone in Japan is going to kill you. Fun fact, I've been saying this for over two years. Well, this will be the clip. No, since I had

a previous podcast where we were talking about speculation. I said that is going to happen. Who would you fight? Who would I fight? Any person. I didn't even, I like that you asked everybody and I didn't even think that I would answer this question. I don't know. I'm a lover, not a fighter. Come on.

One person. Who would you fight? You beat the fuck out of Miskif yesterday. That's true. Miskif. Miskif again. No, no, no. In video games?

No, any video games, books, movie. Who would I fight? Yes. Physically in the room. We've asked everybody. Like a real person. I can put forward a real. Oh, dude.

Put a beating on him. There's so many people. There are so many people. It's just like a lot I won't say because they're political. Fight Trump. I would fight Adolf Hitler. Yeah. There you go. Not controversial.

Brave. I know. Who would you fight, Will? Bad guy. Giving this a lot. Someone who pissed me off the most, you just watch this show. I'd fight Skylar from Breaking Bad. Oh, my gosh.

I don't like her. She's the worst. The fucking worst. And, you know, if I had a situation where I couldn't be judged, I would just beat the shit out of Skylar. Oh, straight up. Terrible.

Jesus Christ. Terrible, like, horrid bitch. Was she the one who cheated on her husband? Yes. Oh, okay. Oh, my God. Like, she obliterated Walters character Like he's so passionate about this is like every week every other week. There's another see the meme There's another viral meme about like how Skylar is actually not a bad person in the show and you guys are like misogynistic

And it's like, no. It's a fictional character, and she's presented in that way specifically to make the content worse. So yeah, of course, you're not supposed to like her, okay? You're not. You're not supposed to like Walter all that much either, but you're definitely not supposed to like her either. Well, it's like in most normal people's lives, they might have a girl that cheated on them,

but they probably didn't know of a cartel boss. So it's more personal. They don't run a meth-making operation. They don't understand the dynamic. And we're just doing a fun game on a podcast. Who would you fight? I'd say the Lich King, something like that. It's a boring answer.

I just don't really think about it because in my mind, the Lich King beat my fucking ass. He's the goddamn Lich King. How are you going to beat anybody in there? You would probably fight the name. really think about it because like in my mind, oh, the Lich King beat my fucking ass. He's the goddamn Lich King. So it's like, how are you going to beat anybody in there? So it's like kind of, it's like,

you would probably fight the Nameless King. Like if you saw the Nameless King in a bar, you would probably just pop off. I've made peace with it. That's why I was going

to say Nameless King at first, but like I killed him. If you had to go beat the Nameless King again right now, you'd have a good time. Was it that bad?

Yes. I quit for like a year. A year? I finished a game and everyone was like, no, you didn't. You didn't kill the Nameless King. Do you want to know what boss that was for me? Owl 2.

Oh. I was on that one for a long time. Punishing boss. I think that was like five or six hours for me. Yeah. It took me a bit. I thought Owl 1 was harder. No.

You're fucking high. Because of that little ball? It's because Sekiro, unlike all of the other Soulsborne games in the franchise, actually puts you with limiters. There's no way to over level and get back to that fight so there's literally no help it's all rhythm it's all pure skill yep in that entire franchise which is why i think it's the hardest one in the entire franchise for that reason which is why born i think um it was a joke i think at the end though some of those late game bosses are kind of dude

you know orphan of cause yeah guess how long it took me to try to beat that one of them. That's a you know, it's crazy. I went with half potions Yeah with whirligig. He's really good at games or something. I just got lucky on that one ball Oh, it was actually skill, but he's just that's not applied. Would you agree that Breaking Bad is just death now? Think about that. Yeah, it's the same show Think about think about think about Hank and Walter White. That's literally Kira and Al. No, because Al is competent. Hank is famously incompetent.

Is he? Yes. Well, he was very good at everything else. What? He was like, he got promoted to like the lead operator. In the police force. That's like getting promoted at a tasty freeze. In the DEA.

Same. Okay. You think the DEA does a good job in this country? The war on drugs going well? They literally, they literally, they literally promote you. The more thumb-like you look, the more you get elevated. It looks like a thumb. It's like a light and cure if they weren't as, or sorry, L and cure if they weren't as smart.

It's a very similar plot. It's like Light and Kira if they weren't as, or sorry, L and Kira if they weren't as smart. It's a very similar plot. It's a very similar plot. I feel like a major component here is It would be like Death Note if Light Yagami was Walter White and L was a kid with progeria trying to play football. But the thing is, you have to understand, Hank is very smart

but you have to understand, it was his ego that was getting in the way of him realizing that, because he thought Walter was so pathetic. Do you not even remember Hank Schrader's art? After he got shot, he was useless. There were all seasons where he's like, oh, oh. Have you been shot? No, but Al was never like, I'm so scared. Because he didn't get shot.

You're wrong. How do you think Al would have reacted if he got fucking shot? He would have been like, uh, a bullet. It's in my arm, though. So I have a wild bandage. I need to think about the best tourniquet I can make. Okay, maybe. He would tank it.

He'd tank it. Al would tank it. It's nothing to him. The problem is Al is maybe the greatest anime protagonist ever. I think so, too. And Hank Schrader is fucking Hank Schrader. I thought Hank Schrader was a great character. Schrader, bro.

He's a great character. He's no El, though. No, he's no El. Okay, but he's an Americanized version of him. I think El is. You know what it is? You know what? I think El is like the perfected version of like the much older style of like Sherlock Holmes.

But as a protagonist. No, he's supposed to be the guy from Murder on the Orient Express. Yeah. What's his name? I can't think. I don't know. The famous detective. But he actually is like, I think a lot of times with like Sherlock Holmes and whatnot.

Or like Glass Onion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's supposed to be like the omnipotent detective. But the way that they present Sherlock Holmes usually in like especially modern renditions of it is like he's just really smart. He always gets it. Like there isn't any, there's no element to it. The other thing about Al is that you have to factor is he is fighting God. Yeah, he is.

A lot of people are like, oh, Light and L are evenly matched. They're not. No, they're not. The only reason Light can compete with L is because he's been given the power of God. Absolutely. Which puts a detective in an impossible situation

where he's literally doing logic about the unfathomable. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't know. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen Death Note. You guys knew that? We talked about this multiple times.

I thought by now you would have. I haven't seen it yet. It's also a super easy watch. It's not long at all. For the first season and 26 for the whole thing. I knew I was hooked when they played tennis and there's like a 30 minute sequence of him being like, he's's gonna hit a forehand wait

It's a slice Lights in the car right and then he touches the paper again and then everything comes back and he's just Information overload. Oh my god What is else because, because I just realized that you're a weed today. I had no fucking idea. He's a weed. It's so funny because like,

I went on trash taste. He got mad. You went on trash taste? Yeah. What the fuck? And when I went on trash taste, they were shocked because I went on trash taste,

which is like the premier weed podcast. It's the anime podcast. Yeah. And it's like, and i had like notes written out ahead of time for them like i brought controversial subjects some of which i think like have been very prescient uh attack on titan is an anime that is uh actually a mecha anime it is 100 okay i'm glad yeah flesh mecha yep and especially with the political undertones or overtones. That is a good take.

Yeah, and then the other one is Luffy is a terrorist. Yeah. Oh, what's that about? He's a freedom fighter. He fights against literally the one world government and sea cops.

You're right. There you go. 100% right. Both of those went like super vile. Like people at first, they were like, whoa, and then they were like, okay.

So I need to know this because everybody has this moment. I'm not sure if you might not remember it, but try to. What is the moment where you were like, I fucking love this shit? Oh, I remember. Mine's very clear. It's when Krillin blows up and Goku's like, well, we can't have that. Goes Super Saiyan 1 for the first time versus Frieza. Yeah, dicko mode.

Insane. What was your anime moment? I think it was manga. I think it was Dragon Ball as well. Was it actually? I remember mine specifically because the stars aligned. I was at a sleepover at my friend Ben's house.

It was my first sleepover ever. And many people experience this. Your first sleepover, you're scared shitless. You're like, I'm not in my house anymore. What the fuck is going on? So I couldn't sleep. So he was a really rich kid. So I snuck up to one of his like living rooms that was isolated.

And I started watching TV. And I put on Cartoon Network because that was like my safety. It happened to be the night that Adult Swim was debuting Cowboy Bebop. What the fuck? And so I was like 10 years old. Nine years old. I was like, Cartoon Network, like let's get some fucking Dexter's Lab in. Here we go.

And all of a sudden it was like, I don't know if you guys remember the old original bumps for Adult Swim, but it was like all kids out of the pool. Yep, I remember. And I was like, what the fuck is that? And then fucking Cowboy Bebop came on and my mind, it was that first episode on Mars with the red-eyed coyote and all that shit. My mind like imploded and mind, like, imploded.

And I just, like, I put away childhood things forever. I was like, there's a world out there! And it just, I was hooked to the point where I would, like, climb, sneak down in my house and watch adults swim. And I was exposed to all of these things. And it was similar enough, because it was cartoons in my mind that I could rationalize it or try and wrap my head around it. But the,

the, the themes and the concepts were so adult and so challenging that it just felt like alien in a native way. Like the, the first time a girl touches your butt during sex, you know what I mean? Like, and,

and I just loved it. I fucking, I loved it and I couldn't get enough loved it. I fucking, I loved it, and I couldn't get enough of it, and we, from that point forward. I think Dragon Ball got me invested in, like, anime and manga, because I read Dragon Ball as a manga.

Yeah. But I think my, like, come-to-Jesus moment was probably Samurai Champloo Adult Swim as well. Samurai Champloo? Do you remember the specific moment? I don't remember the specific moment, no. Damn. The first episode is so fucking strong,

so it was probably in there. That show is so goddamn good. For me, it was, like, random, because, like, I didn't grow up here, but, like, sometimes in the summers, I'd come to America, and that's all I did was, like, read comic books and read manga.

I'd go to Borders, which is, like, a Barnes & Noble. With a cafe in it? Yeah, with the Seattle's Best Coffee in it. And I would get one of those like fat fucking milkshake coffees. And I would just sit there and just like read as much as I could because like they don't have that shit in Turkey.

I can't buy it. My first manga ever was Chobits. Me too. That's a classic. Dude, no way. And it's like a very girly manga because in my fifth grade class, there was a girl named Xiao Nin. And she like was reading that. And I was like,

what the fuck is this? And she's like, read it. And I remember there were boobs in it. Yeah, there's a lot of boobs. It was a big hug for me. Yep. But I was like 30 volumes into show bits. And I was like,

this story's incredible. I had another girl in my English class. Your first manga was show bits? Mm-hmm. That's so awesome. And I was like, this story's incredible. I had another girl in my English class. Your first bingo was show bits? That's so awesome. And my first anime too, yeah. They made an anime of it? Yeah, you haven't seen it?

No. Dude, the opening's a banger. Oh, peep it. I had a chick in English class in sixth grade who would let me read her Ravemaster manga and then make me eat

bugles off her fingers while I would read anime mistress Who of my favorite things Things combined what a treat. All right, I'm gonna pull up, let's see. Okay, we talked about... The old anime, like, I remember watching, dude, for me, it was Ghost in the Shell. I remember seeing that,

and it was, like, the first cartoon that I saw that was, like, serious. I was like, oh. Oh, shit. Wait, what? How ahead was Ghost in the Shell? It's ahead was Ghost in the Shell it's insane Ghost in the Shell

there are projects like that that make no sense to me where it's like we are now in 2024 Ghost in the Shell came out in the 1980s have you ever seen Lane what's up Lane

the serial experiments Lane yes I recently watched it like maybe a year and a half ago that was the exact fucking thing that I thought yeah how are they more relevant now yeah than they were when they came out exactly that makes no sense to me i think some of it is

good politics and the other is just they just nail it it's it's got it's got good philosophy in in it and and then it becomes like way more prescient i feel like ghost in the shell is kind of predictive in the same way that really good sci-fi is. And the other piece that I want to talk about that with AI becoming more and more of an issue, full circle on this, Dune. If you really get into the Dune lore with the men's hats,

what happens, the lead-in events to Dune that they kind of cover in the books, not the movies at all, is that mankind goes to war with AI. Notice they don't have guns in Dune? Right. What's that about?

They completely change their religious, technological, and cultural structure to avoid using computers. Yeah, it's a wipeout, a full wipeout. And they change, actually, Christianity. They have the orange book, this is some nerdy shit, now I'm taking you there. I didn't know all this. Yeah, this is crazy.

But the idea is that they went to war with AI because they realized human beings could not exist harmoniously with AI. So mentats are actually human computers. They're people that have spent their entire lives training to do what a basic computer would do because they are now against the law to use. What the fuck? That's actually so cool. A lot of the technology is just like, it's wiped out completely. But they predicted that in like the 80s, man.

How? How? I don't know. It's like the internet's coming up. I mean, not 80s, but like it's the, there's like a tech bubble. I think if you understand human psychology and you can kind of predict that people always want more,

will always escalate things more and more. I think that a lot of that is built off of that psychology and big surprise, they're right. Yeah. You know, it's fucked up. We just can't help ourselves. Yeah, no, but you're, but that true, actually, yes. That's why I love a good dystopia.

Yeah. That's why, what's the Matt Damon movie? Elysium is one of my favorites. Do you think there's any cure to that? Do you think there's maybe like a gene that we can point to in the future and eliminate to stop human beings from being so just impossibly ambitious? No, but it's not even ambition. Dude, look. Well, not ambition. you're making me want to talk about politics.

This is very political. This is like, I'm holding back. I'm holding. Talk to me about ethical consumption. I'm like, what? Just give me like 10 minutes of ethical consumption. It's the way that we've progressed post-industrial revolution that has like basically designed our entire lives around permanent growth

and not necessarily sustainability at all. That's why it's like unique when someone like yourself exists in this way. No, I'm serious. You live in like, you live an aesthetic lifestyle. Yeah, you're like diogenes. Which is like odd because you make a shit ton of money. And I mean, you make, in comparison to the average person. I do, I do.

Things are good. Things are very good. And beyond that, like, but you don't have any interest. You have figured out what makes you tick, what you enjoy. I have as well. And you just kind of just keep hitting that button. And you don't hit any of the other buttons. You're like, no, that's the one.

This is the one. This is the shit that I like. And I think that that limits your growth potential under capitalism, under a capitalist structure. This isn't to say that you're a socialist by any means, but that mentality is oftentimes lost upon many, and that is because we are taught and we have normalized this concept that, like, no, you have to constantly, like, build.

You have to constantly expand. Hasan, why don't you hire more people so you can like build a business? Because I don't want to. I care more about like hitting the button and doing the things that I like doing. If you could program a button to do one thing over and over again for the rest of time.

I don't know if you want the answer to that. Feed him Dr. Pepper. Now that is a good lead-in. Now that is a good lead-in. Now that is a good lead-in. What would your button do? I don't know. I mean, like, to do anything? Just one thing.

Like, you press a button, turkey, bacon, sandwich. Boom. Cure any illness that I have. Okay, that's a good one. Yeah, the doctor button. No, mine is closer to Kira. World leaders. Oh.

Like 3D printing them? No, killing them. Oh. I didn't say that either. The assassination button. I don't know we got that. Would you have a medical button or an assassination button, or would it be simple?

I'd probably just have a button where, like, when I'm tired, I need to sleep, I press it. It's like I just slept. That's a good button. A refresh just slept that's a good now that's a person who loves living life okay you're like oh i don't want to i don't want to miss out on anything i just find having to sleep so intrusive and annoying really yeah like when i when i sleep i enjoy it but if i could choose to never have to sleep, I would never sleep again. True. Okay, I got a better button.

Okay, better than the assassination button. Better than the assassination one. That was a bit of a meme. Okay. I hit the button, and it basically gives me mouth pleasures. And it is zero calories, okay? Oh, dude, I thought you were talking about him. You were talking about him. No. I thought you were, I thought you were talking about him. You were talking about him.

No. I thought you were like, I just talked about him. I was talking about fucking, I was talking about food, my man. I'm eating like A5 snow beef wagyu that was like just cut off a calf that was like fucking massaged her whole life. Food button. Food button, but it doesn't, like, do any of the negative side effects. Like, making me fat.

What's your button, Tack? Probably, what's it called, telekinesis button. The read minds one where you can, like, fucking move shit with your mind. That's not, but that's just your... No, no, no. That's just your... No, no, no. That ain't a button.

So the button does whatever I'm looking at, goes into my hand. Okay. Like a force pull. Yeah, exactly. So like, oh, I want a soda. Press the button. It goes into my fucking hand.

That's it. That's the hardest thing in the world. If I had a button, it would be shaped like a bell, and it would be to turn on notifications for the Fear End podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, you've been watching Fear End, and our guests today have been steak and eggs.

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Thank you for letting us use your set and peace. Is there a Rule 34 Yoda? I bet there is. March, can you pull that up? What if they have eggs or something? Yeah, I think that's what I was thinking. He's kind of like an amphibian. Aren't there species that don't have sex?

There's just the eggs, and then they come and fertilize the eggs. It's like scorpions I found out. So it's not sex. I don't know scorpions, yeah. What if it just lays eggs? Do you think Yoda lays eggs? Oh, my God. I don't think he does. Yeah, what if it just lays eggs? That's about what I would have expected That is low-key actually hot though Why is Yogi the big asshole? Is Grogu him? What the fuck is happening?

That is low-key actually hot, though.