Fear& - MoistCritikal & Hasanabi Discuss Creator Clash, Guns, Responding To Trolls & More | Fear&Penguinz0

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

This week boys hit the road and flew to Tampa, Florida for Creator Clash and to pay Charlie a visit at the moisture compound. This was filmed an hour before Charlie had to go and host creator clash. N...ow that we live in the future times we know how all the fights went but this episode has all of their predictions as well as other topics such as, Charlie's gun collection, Austin trying to convince Charlie to fly, confronting trolls and so so much more. Okay goodbye hope ya like the episode leave a like even if ya didnt ok love you :) 🎉BONUS CONTENT🍾 🌟PATREON - https://www.patreon.com/FearAnd🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS - https://linktr.ee/fearand♥ follow our guest! ♥Charlie -  https://twitter.com/MoistCr1TiKaL✰ follow Fear&! ✰Hasan: https://twitter.com/HasanthehunWill: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeffAustin: https://twitter.com/AustinontwitterMarche: https://twitter.com/MarcheFear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:41 Dude, it's funny you say that because that's all we talk about on this podcast. We talk about cock more than any podcast out there. That's a bold claim. We have 300 episodes of all Dick Farts. Really? All Dick all the time. That's why we came here. We came to Tampa for no other reason other than to talk to the Dick Talk guy himself.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And it's kind of cool that you guys actually bought the uh is fortnight overrated couch so we're basically like recreating that right now we all we grew up we did a little bit of anovar and and now we're here is fortnight overrated is is what we're going to be doing no of course not we're out here in literally probably i hate to disrespect your hometown like this one of the worst fucking places in the United States of America. Jesus Christ! So I'm gonna get defensive. I think it's not even the worst place in Florida.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I think it comfortably belongs to Miami. True. I take it back. I've been to... No. Panama City Beach. What? Panama City Beach is a... No, that's the worst place in America. There's a lot of really bad places in Florida. I used to live here.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm going to disagree. I don't even think it cracks the top 10 worst places in America. I just don't think you've been to enough places in America. I've been to a lot of places. I've been all up and down the East Coast. He set my expectations at rock bottom, and I landed here, and I was like, God, you know what? It isn't that bad.
Starting point is 00:03:01 It's because you also did walk one block and then say that we've walked three miles and that you were sweating profusely. And you took almost your entire shirt off. Like, you unbuttoned your shirt all the way down to the bottom. It's Tampa. You've got to do that. Respectfully, it is 75 degrees, and I don't normally sweat at that temperature. Yep. It's a little humid.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Humidity here is absolutely like the silent killer. Absolutely. It's kind of the devil. That's the first thing thing people notice but I'm starting to warm up to Florida a little bit I don't know why it's a great atmosphere he saw one shirtless man and he went this is a very gay state this is a very gay state
Starting point is 00:03:39 not even because it's actually super gay but like there's just a lot of Puerto Rican Cuban Dominican men out here and then you know it's actually super gay, but there's just a lot of Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican men out here. And then, you know, it's just, you might suspect it to be a gay state for that reason.
Starting point is 00:03:53 They're not gay. A noise like a fat man perusing a menu. There's a lot of beautiful men and women out here, too. There's a lot of colleges here, so a lot, too. So there's a lot of colleges here. So a lot of the younger people come to Florida to study. And it has a lot of party universities. So you get a lot of different demographics coming together to share the same goal of just partying.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It is incredible. I have seen so many beautiful people. Men and women. It may have turned me bisexual. Oh, okay. Florida will do that to you. I saw some boobs that transcended sexuality today. Where would you have seen boobs today?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Well, not like bare boobs. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. They were on display. They were on display. Like I wasn't, they weren't out. Right. You could see the potential. They still had secrets to share.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yes, they did. You have a lot, I walked in here and the first thing I see is several cocks. Yep, the Moby Huges. So where did your cock obsession start? So a long time ago, we have a shop here called The Todd, and I used to drive by it a lot going to university when I was commuting back in the day. So I was always curious what they had,
Starting point is 00:05:02 and they had the wackiest shit. So they had alien pussies, and I was like, that's sick that's hype that's hot yeah what's an alien pussy like so that's what i wanted to get to the bottom of so i tackled it using the scientific method i bought one yeah and you fucked it i never fucked it actually that's crazy yep so i got it i wanted to test like the durability so i'd like break things with it and i was like this is fucking awesome stress testing yeah and it made the I was like, this is fucking awesome. Stress testing. And it made the goofiest noises. I put it in the passenger seat of a car and crashed it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So it was like, this is fucking crazy. Are all sex toys built like this? So then I just started getting a whole smorgasbord of all kinds of different utensils and using them for different things. So then I eventually found the Moby Huge, and I was like, this is the magnum opus. Then I eventually found the Moby Huge and I was like, this is the magnum opus. Can we explain what a Moby Huge is for those people listening
Starting point is 00:05:50 at home? Yes, it is a three-foot roughly 70-pound dildo. It's sold through Amazon by a company called Glorycock, I think. Something like that. The good folks at Glorycock. Patriots, honestly. All of them. Do you think anyone's actually used that?
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's impossible. It would actually bisect them. I know some men. It would split them in half. I was using it like a kettlebell, swinging it, and that shit's heavy. Do we think this is like the sub five minute mile where at some point in human history, everyone was unanimously, it's impossible. But as training
Starting point is 00:06:29 technology evolved, so too did our ambition for the stars. Someone has to be the one to finally break new ground. The pioneer to trade. Some fine young athlete out there. If Sysweb can't do it, I don't know. I don't know if the next generation will be trained on different types booty boot camp methods.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I think we may as humans. Assholes will evolve over time. Or being born without wisdom teeth and are more dilated over time. Yeah. To be able to take the Moby Hughes. Yeah. I think that's. So we need to begin to use them or attempt to use them.
Starting point is 00:07:03 And eventually. Yeah. You can't be speaking on this as the selfish top on this podcast no I can be because I'm looking for people that you are fucking up the mic here too is it bad how long was it bad for
Starting point is 00:07:17 not very long that's incredible is it better now it's actually a skill honestly at this point test test one two okay sorry truly truly I? It's actually a skill, honestly, at this point. Test, test, one, two. Okay, sorry. I mean, truly, truly, I think that it's a skill, what you're doing. I fuck up the mics every podcast. Every podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That's all right. He switches the mics in my studio, which is like stable, you know what I mean? And whichever microphone he sits on, he breaks. Yeah. Speaking of skill and lack of skill, though, you failed booty boot camp. I did. So there's this thing uh have you ever put something in your butt before not by design but like toilet paper ripping and
Starting point is 00:07:50 you get like yeah scare you got it so wait oh jump scare yeah it's not like what i was planning on happening okay oh i see what you mean in a finger yeah well there's this thing called you're wiping aggressively so When you have enough. It doesn't go fully in, but it knocks on the door. You know when you're wiping. You need a bidet, my man. That's what you need. I've heard the glory of the bidet. One day.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah, they're phenomenal. Nothing but good things. So booty boot camp is a series of dildos that works you slowly up to the size of a training kit. It is a training kit. And I notoriously failed. He couldn't up to the size of a training kit. It is a training kit. I notoriously failed. He couldn't get past the thimble. He couldn't get past the first one.
Starting point is 00:08:33 He couldn't even get past the finger in the butt while you're wiping. It was a little bigger than that. Give me some credit. Was it painful? No, it just wasn't my thing. It wasn't even painful. Hasan is homophobic, notoriously. He's famous on the internet. He doesn't like to even talk about this usually.
Starting point is 00:08:49 It's very uncomfortable. Yeah, it just makes me very upset. Yeah. The moment that we start talking about gay stuff. The moment I entered Florida, he felt very comfortable surrounded by homophobes. He was trying to throw me into traffic. Florida's **** is pretty gay. So, like I said
Starting point is 00:09:05 wait you have to bleep that out on the podcast wait why I just said the F slur oh yes we are not bleeping that out we are not
Starting point is 00:09:12 finally fucking got him dude he was dropping the F slur all day today you're like you're such a little kitten when you're on camera
Starting point is 00:09:20 you never want to say it wait am I gonna get canceled for that no dude I told you. You literally... Okay. You are gay.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. You also did order an unusual drink at Starbucks today. Yeah. It was weird. Yes. I ordered a drink. Say it. Say what the name of the drink was.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Oh, God. Say what you ordered. Say it. You know what? No. I hit my quota for F slur. That's not even remotely true. The moment that the cameras are off, you're going to start calling Charlie the F slur.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It doesn't stop. It's weird. I've never heard him say it. No, I've never said it. I've never heard him say it. My mic cut out. Can you bleep that out on the podcast? Okay, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Here's the thing. Low key. We'll get demoralized. Not even low key, high key. I told him this already. If you said the F slur openly in public like you do in private, you would literally be more gay coded. There's nothing gayer than dropping the F bomb.
Starting point is 00:10:13 What do you think, Charlie? I think it's hard for me to weigh in as a Florida resident here because there's just so many different factors at play. True. A lot of non-gays are saying the F slur. You got a lot of extenuatingays are saying the absolute. You got a lot of like extenuating circumstances in Florida for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I can't believe I said it on the podcast. That's awesome. I'm proud. No, no, no, we're not believing it. We're not. I didn't even hear it. I've never heard you say it. Good.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You are such, you are such a pick me. Hey, I'll say it. I'm an ally. You are such a pick me. Oh my God. I will say it behind the paywall. Okay. I like that.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Cause the second part of Okay, I like that. That's your reward. You get to hear a slur. You get to hear a slur. Live. I like that. I have something I want to talk about. We've left Charlie in the dark for too long.
Starting point is 00:11:00 He can't pipe in on the F slur. This is one that I'm probably not equipped to handle. Charlie, you know, you are a Florida resident yes but i wasn't sure until i saw you pull out a gun oh there's the moby huge right there that's gotta be blurry yeah we i don't think i don't trust the monetization am i covering it what about now wanders the halls. Like a ghost. It just showed up here on its own. It's like R2-D2. We weren't sure you were a Florida resident
Starting point is 00:11:35 until a recent video where you pulled out some very scary guns. Yes, I have some very scary toys. Oh my god. I thought you were about to pull one Just start Here my gym shorts It's just so recently I've kind of gotten into the whole gun scene and like really getting a handle on like
Starting point is 00:11:58 Firearm safety and all of that and a buddy of mine He builds them and he was like I I've got you, like, with some crazy shit. And I was like, brother, like, set me up with that. Like, it's time this blood gets even redder for the American country. Like, I want, like, the top-of-the-line stuff. So he got me this wild assault rifle that's so fucking good. Is that the one we saw? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You couldn't see it in the video, but the faceplate is actually all custom-etched moist droplets on it. It's fucking nuts. That's sick. It's like a Call of Duty gun. It is actually like a Call actually all custom etched moist droplets on it. It's fucking nuts. That's sick. It's like a Call of Duty gun. It wasn't super tactical. It was tasteful. Yeah, it was. It wasn't overkill.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't like so kidded that you look ridiculous. No. What are we talking about? That was pornographic. No, I think as far as AR-15s goes, like. As far as AR-15s? No, for sure. That's like saying as far as moby huges go it was quite tasteful no the reason why i say this is because like depending on how far down the gun pipeline
Starting point is 00:12:51 you go on youtube like you get to some insane stuff and uh there's a concept there's a concept called like tactical for that reason yeah yeah where like they will put like you know they'll put like insane sights on it you got the foregrip you put like you know they'll put like insane sights on it you got the foregrip you got like you know you got a bump stock or like an expendable uh like an extendable uh uh what do you call it the the the bump basically i don't know i'm not i'm not like a big gun guy but i've seen like some really insane stuff and as far as that goes that was like a tasteful it was a tasteful gun. It was not like...
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's classy. It has charm to it. It's not like egregious and in your face. It's like, it's cool, but it's not bragging about it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like,
Starting point is 00:13:33 you act like you've been there. That's what it told me from what I saw. I'm glad it spoke to you that way. Yeah, it spoke to me that way. Have you used it? Do you shoot it often? Well, not often,
Starting point is 00:13:44 but because ammo's kind of expensive, but in general, yeah. Brandon's it spoke to me that way. Have you used it? Do you shoot it often? Well, not often, but because ammo's kind of expensive, but in general. Brandon's America, man. I know. Are you a Tannerite guy? Sleepy Joe. Oh, Tannerite is pretty fucking awesome. Yeah, Tannerite. Is that fake? Is that fake gun? No, that's sticks. It's explosives. I've never used a gun. It's explosives that
Starting point is 00:13:59 are weirdly enough legal. I don't know why, but yeah, you can just, you know, you shoot them and they blow up. I mean, it's for home yeah, you can just shoot them and they blow up. I mean, it's for home defense, right? Not Tannerite. Home defense? Dude, the AR-15 is not even for home defense. Yeah, someone broke in so I blew up
Starting point is 00:14:16 the front half of my house. No, they won't even say it. I was just thinking, why else would you need it? It's not for hunting. Because it's sick! No, because it's fun. It's cool, yeah. Here's the biggest secret, I think, that is, like, not even really a secret if you watch
Starting point is 00:14:30 any gun YouTubers or anything like that. Guns are just fun to shoot. And that's why people want it. They want it as a hobby. They love it. It becomes, like, a part of their culture and their identity for some reason in America. But, like, ultimately it's because it's fun. Everyone that says it's for home defense
Starting point is 00:14:46 is being a little crazy because you know what's for home defense? A shotgun. Or if you have a handgun, a handgun. That's for home defense. AR-15 is not... If someone breaks in, I want to go going dark and then just sock them with a crossbow.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Will would, if someone broke into his house, Will would tie them up and torture them. No, I can't say that on the podcast. No, don't say that. Don't threaten them with a good time. That's why I always say, like, look, I live in a gated community, for sure, and very safe. Don't come to my house, please.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Don't do it. You know, we don't want that. No, we don't. But, yeah, I have katanas. Wow, so you're going to actually go full samurai if someone busts in the last thing they'd expect? Killing someone with a katana would be so high. That's so personal, too, because they wouldn't instantly die. You'd have to look at them in the eye and watch the light leave.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I almost chopped my toe off one time when I was slicing. Yeah, that's a fucking terrifying way to die. It's sharp as fuck. They are. time when i was fucking terrifying way today it's it's like it's sharp as fuck they are i i uh i was like doing fruit ninja which is very dangerous for the record do not do it the tannerite of swords yeah i was i was like i had like uh i think it was i think it was literally sap nap and george last time they were in my house they were throwing fruits at me and i was cutting them and I cut one and then I cut it down all the way to the ground and it cut a piece off
Starting point is 00:16:08 of my slippers that I was wearing. It was so close to my toe. You were there. It was so close. It was so close to my toe. I luckily survived it. You made me hold a grapefruit in between my butt cheeks.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah. The safety is always off on those bad boys. You made me hold a grapefruit in between my butt cheeks. But, you know, the safety's always off on those bad boys. You gotta remember that. Unless it's in the sheath. That's wild. I can't believe you never shot a gun. No, I've shot a gun before. I shot a sniper rifle.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Okay. I shot with Hassan. He's pro-Second Amendment. I don't know if you know that. No, I'm not. Yeah, he's pro-Second Amendment. I don't know if you know that. No, I'm not. Yeah, he's pro-Second Amendment. I've heard that. Big 2A guy. Yeah, he loves his guns.
Starting point is 00:16:50 No, I do love guns, but I think that we should definitely have regulation like around guns. I mean, no, he's right to bear arms with no limits. Yeah, limitless. I think every American has a God-given right, nay, a responsibility to own an RPG. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:06 In the age of Biorectars or, like, you can go on fucking Alibaba and get a drone that you'd be using in Ukraine otherwise, like, I think I should be able to defend myself against those drones. We need rocket-propelled grenades. I want a Gears of War gun with a chain launcher on it. Yeah, yeah. Now that's something everybody can. Yeah. That's something everybody can agree on. That is a tasteful attachment.
Starting point is 00:17:30 That's a bipartisan compromise. You hit it right in the middle. We will have socialized medicine and chainsaw guns. Hell yeah! 100% of America votes for you. Chainsaw guns would be unironically great
Starting point is 00:17:46 because it's so heavy and so stupid that it would literally make it pretty much impossible to do a mass shooting. And that way, I feel like the oil industry would feel safer about electric cars because they know that you'd need crude to power that chainsaw. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah, straight up. You've thought of every angle for this platform, actually. These are good. Yeah. Charlie, I'm curious about something. Yeah. I love airplanes. I used to want to be a pilot.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Okay. I hear that you don't fly. I do not. So I have flown. I've flown probably like 10 or 11 times, and I hate it. I can't stand it. You can't stand it. Fear.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Let's unpack this. It's 9-11. He's out of principle. 9-11 scarred me for life. So, is this... How long has this been going on? Are you afraid of it? I think it's kind of a blend of
Starting point is 00:18:34 lack of control and just the stakes. So, if something goes wrong in a plane, it's not the same thing as a car. It goes catastrophically wrong on a plane. If it happens when you're in the air, you're just kind of fucked. No, no, you're not. Have you seen that footage of that Nepal plane crash where, like, just flames everything?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Everyone's dead? Yeah, but it's Nepal. What? What does that mean? It's still a plane. What the fuck? No, look. No, I said a trap for you. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Well, look, the regulations in some countries are not as intense as the United States, and that's a fact. Well, I've got a counterpoint. The Boeing Max, do you remember the Boeing Max controversy? Yes, I do. By the way, he knows everything about what you're about to—he will debate you on this. So I might be spotting the details, but they had a flaw with the Boeing Max where there was a new edition made that wasn't communicated to the pilots because they didn't want to spend the money to train them. Correct. They started falling out of the fucking sky.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Correct. That's terrifying. They didn't really fall out of the sky, per se. They just plunged into the ground. You are not helping. The nomenclature was a little off. But it was... Plunging to the ground.
Starting point is 00:19:42 The, um... Yes. That's what happened. Look, you do, there are dangers of flying, but very, it's the safest mode of transportation. You've heard all this shit before. You've heard every argument against it. I don't think I'm going to sway you. One thing that I, you conceded so quick. He just destroyed you by bringing up the max. Like, that's the easiest.
Starting point is 00:20:03 No, but let me, let me comfort you by saying that a lot of those uh the max it's it's an easy fix and they fixed it yeah but even if the even if mcast was still there there's something called stabilizer trim switches you could just go like that and cut it off and save yeah everybody at the time they didn't know that which is why it became such a problem right charlie as someone who's also afraid of flying oh you're in the same boat okay i mean so i'm in this boat i don't really tell the story often but i was living in princeton which is a commuter city for new york and my mom was a flight attendant she's flying back from i think europe the day of and because i was in new jersey and a lot of, like, the families worked in Twin Towers, they gathered up all the kids that they thought their parents were, like, victims. And they started, like, immediately, like, grief counseling.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And I was in this group. And I didn't hear from my mom for, like, a week because she was diverted to Alberta, Canada, I think. But I, for, like, a good day, thought my mom was gone until like the details started coming out and stuff. Holy shit. So after that, I was like so, and I used to travel all the time. My mom was a flight attendant.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And I've been dialing my way back. You got to fly. You're a creator. Exposure therapy. You got to just take it. So I recognize that it's irrational. Like I know for sure it's not only the safest motivation. That's why I can't, that's why you can't, like, argue with me.
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's just such a hard thing that, like, a phobia is never going to be rational. And I recognize flying is a really good try. And every time you hit turbulence, I still, ah, like, butthole clench.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Absolutely. I also was afraid of flying. Even when you wanted to be a pilot? Yes. It's a control thing. Oh, I gotcha. Because I'm sitting
Starting point is 00:21:41 in the back of the plane and I'm not in the cockpit and I can't see the instruments and I can't do that. To this day, when I'm going through weather or something like that, I'm not in the cockpit and I can't see the instruments and I can't do that to this day when I'm going through weather or something like that I will pull up my app and I'll check the altitude and airspeed because I'm like what's going on you I like to put something that would make me more that'd be a lot more nerve no no because no because what you'll notice when you open up your app and you look at your altitude and airspeed is that you're feeling yourself getting thrashed around but your speed is not
Starting point is 00:22:03 it's like staying the same. And so is your altitude. It's very much feels more intense than it actually is. What if the, what if the pilot was like, we're going to, we're going to shift gears here. We're going to go a little bit slower. What would you, would you be like, oh fuck. No, no, that, that is what you do when you're in turbulence is they slow down to soften the, and everything that they do to avoid turbulence is for your comfort, not for you,
Starting point is 00:22:24 not for safety. It's all about passenger comfort they fly around i mean there's certain things that are weather-wise that are a little bit more dangerous but they will literally avoid turbulence slow down change altitude for passenger comfort not because it's dangerous in any way shape or form the the the amount of uh beating and i'm sure you've heard this all before that an airplane can take is insane they fly these things into hurricanes, like the eye of hurricanes, to measure the wind speed in the eye of a hurricane.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And these aren't commercial jets. They're like props. Well, at a certain point, you just got to monkey-de-loofy it and smile at death. Because the world's too wide. There's too much to see. There's still a lot I want to go see, especially Japan and everything just looks amazing. Oh, dude the oh my god you don't understand okay like it's it's embarrassing
Starting point is 00:23:12 to admit this but if you're a weeb especially i think like japan is the greatest place on the planet yeah everything i've ever seen from it or heard from it from people that have been is nothing but glowing reviews it is literally like living in an anime you will do like normal shit that you would normally do in america and it just seems cool you go to the konbini and it's like it's sick you're going to a 7-eleven and normally that's like not a fun activity in america uh do they even have 7-elevens here i don't know maybe yeah um what well 7-eleven is like mean, it's everywhere, but like in certain states, they don't have a lot of 7-Elevens. Of course they have it here.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I don't know. I mean. In every state in America. Brother, this is a public institution. Okay. This is a public state for sure. This is a public state. You got lots of 7-Elevens.
Starting point is 00:24:01 We have a ton of 7-Elevens. It's not rare. The majority of 7-Elevens I think are like literally in ton of 7-Elevens, yeah. It's not rare. The majority of 7-Elevens, I think, are literally in California, though. I see them everywhere. Texas. Yeah, they have them. North Dakota. They have them in most places, but I just thought maybe this was Publix only for a second.
Starting point is 00:24:15 We need to get you across this great nation, Hasan. Brother, I've literally lived in this state. I've been to pretty much everywhere in this state. Oh. Yeah. I'm very familiar with Florida. I didn't know that. I've never been to Tampa, though, for obvious reasons. What the fuck is there to do here? We have Bush Gardens.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Hell yeah, Bush Gardens, Tampa. We have the Buccaneers. We have the Lightning. You also have a baseball team right now that is making history. Yeah, they lost last night. Unfortunate. Yeah, I feel like this is where you come when
Starting point is 00:24:46 uh you know there's like a corporate retreat like the company the company wants to give all the sales executives like uh like a weekend and then they send you to tampa i feel like it's the whole city's vibes are are around that a little bit a lot of it's tourism so we have all of these beaches like in clearwater and st pete and there's a lot of places to stay there. So a lot of company retreats always center around that area, which is where a lot of it comes from. So you're not wrong. So we're not even in the good part of Tampa, is what you're saying. We're in the bad part of Tampa, like Creator Clash.
Starting point is 00:25:15 You're in the heart of college Tampa. Yeah. So where Creator Clash is being held is where the Lightning play. And in that area, you have University of Tampa, which is where I went to school. And then you also have USF and another smaller university that all converge in the same general area it's pretty fucking cool though if you like that atmosphere i'm 31 years old i'm i'm good on that my content brain i want i would love to see you do a moist company retreat you pay for like a like a scranton pennsylvania's company retreat but they
Starting point is 00:25:46 have to do all the things that you set up for them that'd be kind of hype actually yeah yeah they're doing like they're doing like strongman competitions with the dildos you have to throw moby dick off of the free vacation but you also got to do this content yeah that would be pretty cool yeah i don't know i'm i'm i'm expressly anti-tampa so far because like i like you've broken me okay why your bougie-ness is like oh yeah it literally i used to i used to out of principle even when i could pay for like more expensive tickets out of principle i used to never fly uh class, business class, none of that shit I wouldn't even do economy plus And I'm 6'4, I'm a big dude
Starting point is 00:26:29 It's hard for me to fly in general Now I've gotten to a point where There's no All the business class or economy plus Tickets to Tampa Because it's not super well traveled From the rest of the country
Starting point is 00:26:43 Are not lie flat seats at all. No. Which means you can't fucking sleep on them. No. It's almost impossible. You're squished up. And they didn't even serve food on the flight. And I found myself...
Starting point is 00:26:57 What? He's saying my earpods suck. Oh. I found myself legitimately upset when we went into the flight. And Marge and I are sitting there. And I asked the flight attendant. I was like, I'm sorry. Is there any food on the flight? And she's like, no.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah. This is a red eye. I'm a pretty real. It's a five-hour flight. What if I die? Charlie, I'm a pretty real. What if I die? Yeah. So I flew what if I die that so I flew in August And I actually had a flu yep. I went to a rocket league world champion my team
Starting point is 00:27:32 I the second it took off. I thought I was having a panic attack my chest was tightening I actually thought it was the end of me Yeah If you have like an emergency like if you conked out from blood sugar loss or whatever the fuck would happen without eating You just done. You can't do anything. They have a heart thing on there. A defibrillator?
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah, they have a defibrillator and oxygen. And all the flight attendants are CPR certified. I actually don't know that last part. Except the flight attendants, you know what they're not certified? Certified in giving me treats. Because she was very, like, she brought the snack tray over and i you know i i took a little bit of time looking through the snacks like because i was like there's a lot of snacks i want to i want to eat some i want i need to eat something so did i make you this way
Starting point is 00:28:15 i feel like you've broken me so i'm i'm a pretty reasonable consumer charlie yeah i just like i like to get what i pay for. Don't you agree? Makes sense. When you pay for something, you pay for a service. If that service isn't delivered to what they have presented the service as being, you should get your money back. So I couldn't disagree more. Really? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I love this. I've never in my life ever asked for a refund on anything. Nope, I couldn't do it. I can't do it either. I agree with you. It's traumatic. Wait, wait, wait. So, like, do you disagree that you don't deserve it or you just can't do it?
Starting point is 00:28:51 No, like, if you pay for something, you'd want it to be, like, the best it can be or what you're expecting. But when it's not, I just roll with it 100% of the time. When something goes wrong and it's egregious. Like, in what way? Oh, man. I'm trying to think back to an example. I mean, there's. Your last example was you didn't get a meal on your first class flight.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Okay, so I pay for a first class fight. Oh, this is already rough. To Minneapolis. I was going to see the Minnesota Vikings play football. Right. It's a three-hour flight, by the way. It's a three-hour flight. And I took my friend and a couple of family members, and I flew everybody first class.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And we get on the plane. Wait, so you refunded multiple tickets. I'll get there. We didn't even know that. I like how this is the second time we're hearing this story, and it's like an onion. There's so many new layers to it. There's new details. So I fly delta a lot right and the uh we get on board and the immediate thing oven's broken no which means don't look at him like like he's gonna agree with you
Starting point is 00:29:55 right don't you hate that's an outrage oven's broken no first class meal now here's the deal here's the deal look Here's the deal. Look, I... By the way, he got... No, no, no. Tell this part, though. You got that flight specifically because you wanted to get the meal. Yes. You could have gotten another flight.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Part of the experience of flying first class is getting served food, I think, on this particular route. And so I... What was the meal supposed to be? It was supposed to be like some sort of... I think it was a quiche. This is so bougie. It's I think it was a quiche. This is so bougie. It's unreal. We didn't get... Nothing hits quite like
Starting point is 00:30:31 airplane quiche. That's the worst part about this. It's so dog shit. Delta especially. The food is so bad. I didn't get mad at the flight attendants. It's not their fault. I would never get mad at the flight attendants. They were awesome. fault. It's not their issue. I would never get mad at the flight attendants. They were awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We had a great time. In fact, I ran into one of them in Phoenix like three weeks later. Hey, man, what's up? Big Philadelphia Eagles fan. Side story for another time. But anyway. He's trying to humanize this. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I kissed his baby. It was great. So anyway. So then I go to corporate and I say, hey, look, with all respect, I need, you know, I paid for this flight. I understand something went wrong with it. How many tickets did you have in first class? Three.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So you were refunding three tickets. And I got a refund for all three tickets. Were they like profusely apologizing to you for it? Not profusely, but they were just like, sorry, it wasn't a good experience. He is like a rewards demon. I'm like the top of that fucking tree chain. Yeah. Now it's time for me to fucking talk shit okay okay i'm ready for this guess what so because he's a rewards demon i kind of utilize austin like my my what is it called uh my concierge agent ambassador yeah no but like he books everything for me he
Starting point is 00:31:43 gets the points off of it it's great for him whatever but i also get them i don't yeah i don't get your point i get all of the like all the extra benefits of like uh being like a halcyon member of like the you know delta marion is that halcyon yeah well no it's ambassador yeah i just i just made it okay it's like but it's like he's like the 10th dawn of fucking delta and also Marriott in the Marriott franchise. They know him. And because he's such a fucking point demon, a point rat, if you will, he booked the JW Marriott for us. And there was apparently a much nicer hotel in the same franchise, the addition.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And he literally was like, he was like, well, sorry, I was getting a lot more points at the JW Marriott. So I booked you at the JW Marriott. That sounds reasonable. I'm like, bro, put me in the nicest one. Cause like, it's so expensive. Cause it's like the weekend where like, you know, Taylor Swift is here, all this stuff's happening. So like the prices are insane.
Starting point is 00:32:46 The Swifties have come in. But Charlie, let me tell you something that he's not telling you. March pulled up to his hotel at 6 o'clock in the morning. They were on the same flight. And he had to wait how many hours? Two hours for his room. I arranged for Hasan. He arrived at the same time immediately, 6 o'clock in the morning, king bed, room ready.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Let me tell you something that they're both not telling you. Creator Clash got them a free room at the hotel I'm at, and they both opted out of it. That's tragic. Okay, look. That's true. This is true. This is a fact. That's true.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Look, I don't want to be disrespectful because I'm very gracious, and I am using the room to store my luggage this afternoon. Taking full advantage of their hospitality. That is so sweet. I'm glad that the room is being put to good use with your luggage. No, you're not even using their room. You're putting it in Will's room. I didn't want to say anything.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I didn't want to say anything. I didn't want to throw fuel on the fire. But respectfully, this was a points trip for me. Awesome. I needed some points. But you're going to enjoy the fights tonight, right? I will not be at the fights tonight. So do you go to places just for points?
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yes. Yes, sometimes, yeah. He's such a freak. No, literally. He's going to miami tonight it's in his thing for the fight i have to but i have to be there to film tomorrow yeah i would be here for the fights no no we're we're gotcha we brought austin from miami to here specifically so we could do this oh fuck yeah that's huge thank you for taking the time and i'm we're just like talk we're like including like hey you're reacting now which is funny because this is usually how we do the podcast. We always have a guest, but we just kind of talk.
Starting point is 00:34:31 That's half the fun, though. That is the point of a podcast. That's what we do on ours as well. I think that's the most healthy and natural way of running one. What's the last big topic you had on your podcast? Lead us in that conversation. You talk about cocks a lot. We do.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Do you have like a nuanced cock topic that we haven't covered yet? No, not really. So we haven't talked about masturbatory deeds in a long time. We've usually been doing
Starting point is 00:34:54 topical cock stuff. Do people get sick of that sort of thing? We kind of did because it's like how many times can you talk about masturbating in different ways
Starting point is 00:35:04 before it just gets to a point where it's like it's the same deal. Before it's masturbating. Yeah, before it's like, how many times can you talk about masturbating in different ways, right? Before it just gets to a point where it's like it's the same deal. Before it's masturbating. Yeah, before it's just masturbating. True. Yeah. So usually if we're talking about wiener, it's if it's topical at the time. Okay, what's some topical wiener?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Is there anything like breaking news? What's going on in the world of cocks, Charlie? There actually has been one yesterday. Oh. A, I think, I can't remember where, but a police dispatcher, 911 dispatcher, was caught sexting seven other officers. Oh, I did see this. Yeah. And confirmed affairs with two of them. And they're facing termination.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Yeah. Whoa. And the text, the sext messages leaked. Why would they get terminated for that? Just unprofessional fucking at work. That's the only thing cops get fired for in America. Remember the one that was like throwing it back for the whole precinct? Yeah, Megan.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, Megan. Megan. Superstar. You're on a first-name basis with her. She's a superstar. Was she a Florida cop? No, she was a Tennessee cop. But there's a lot of twists and turns there.
Starting point is 00:35:57 She started claiming they groomed her into it. Yeah, it gets... Did this particular 911 operator, were they sexting on the job? Yeah, so a lot of the problem, because they were doing it on duty, apparently. Yeah, dude, can you imagine? Responding to a domestic abuse call. Here's a picture of my tits.
Starting point is 00:36:15 By the way, there's a fire downtown. It's just like, yeah, there's like an overdose. You're going to an overdose call. She's like, oh, I want to overdose on your cock right now. God. I wish that, so they have some of the text messages. I wish it was more like that. It actually feels like, if you've ever read like My Immortal, that fanfic.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Oh, give me some. So one of them is, she was talking to one of the officers. But the guy's like a lobotomite. So every time she would say something, he just says, mmm. Every text message is like nine M's. The M. And they always talk about kissing. So she's like, I can't wait to see you later so I can give you some smoochies.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Dude, that's my favorite type of sex. She puts little fucking kissing emoji. That's not sexy. That just sounds like someone's in a relationship. No, no. That's like when you're super repressed, that's the kind of sex thing that you do. Oh, they're lip hungry harlots. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It goes both ways. Either you're saying the most freak-like shit. It's like, I want to hang of sex thing that you do. It's so bad. It goes both ways. Like, either you're, like, saying the most freak-like shit. It's like, I want to hang you upside down. I want to piss on your tits. It's either like that, or it's like, oh, I can't wait to go. Is that Will? Yeah. I can't wait to, that is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I want to piss on your tits. I'm a humorist. Yeah, yeah. He just made that up. That totally is not something he thinks or says. I want to see you use the Moby Hughes. Or something like, I can't wait to give you little kisses,
Starting point is 00:37:33 little smooches on the mouth. It's just, it is what it is. Was there adultery involved in this? Yeah, so she cheated on her husband with two of them at least. I don't know if those were on the job, but it was just so revolting to see the text messages because of just how juvenile they were.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Was she good at her job? I don't know if she was. She was a hell of an operator. She was a hell of an operator. Separate the art from the artist, guys. If she's just... I don't know how you would kill it in that job. If someone calls you,
Starting point is 00:38:04 I'm going to fucking end it. Don't end it. I want to give you smoochies. What? Maybe she's saving lives. That's when you're mixing business and pleasure. Maybe she's saving lives. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I mean, that's an interesting tactic. It probably wouldn't be super helpful, though, in an emergency. You probably not want to mix. I think I'm having a heart attack. Don't do that. I'll suck your cock. What?
Starting point is 00:38:23 No, it's getting worse. Okay, debate time. Now that we know what Charlie thinks about not getting refunds, I think this will be a good opportunity for Austin to reveal what he thinks about tipping. Oh, you a big anti-tipper? No, no. I've changed my... Okay, so originally, I'm like a big tipper.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Okay. I like to tip. Specifically, I have a driver in LA that frequently drives me around. I tip him minimum 40% usually. Wait. Other side. Oh, no. It's ruined.
Starting point is 00:39:03 It's over. You've ruined him. If I didn't be in the whole episode, we would be winning. Thank you. Thank you no. It's ruined. It's over. You've ruined him. I'm going to be in the whole episode. We're going to be winning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I know this is you.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I didn't want to say anything. I tip at least 20% minimum. But I think tipping is getting out of hand. I was on a ride yesterday, a Lyft ride. And in the middle of the ride, I get a alert from the Lyft service that says hey Austin enjoying your ride show your driver you appreciate them by giving them a tip in the middle of the ride it's like a threat at that yeah it's like we haven't even made it to our destination yet and like we we just left the Tampaa airport see like i i would agree that's a
Starting point is 00:39:45 little egregious because you're not there yet yeah so did you just stall or did you no i didn't tip until the end of the round no he took a screenshot he took a screenshot of it and sent it to the group chat and was complaining yeah but also no but i agree with that i think america and and hasan has changed my perspective on this. I used to think, oh my God, people that don't tip, they're fucking jerks. But you know who the jerks are?
Starting point is 00:40:09 The employers. The corporate employers that are putting the price of tipping on the consumer because they're not willing to pay their employees a living wage. That's the root of the problem.
Starting point is 00:40:21 By not tipping, you're not fighting back against that. You're just hurting the people. But for the record, I do tip. And even in Europe, I do tip. I appreciate it. It's a minimum 20%, but I do think the system is flawed.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Do you know what I've noticed? This grinds my gears a little bit. I don't mind tipping even for takeout stuff. If I go get a coffee, and there's a tip. You know what I mean? Someone made a coffee. It's okay. okay whatever i tip on that for sure but i've noticed the amounts the pre-stocked amounts have been going up have you noticed this yeah stocked amount of wood where it's like do you want 10 15 20 oh gotcha i've seen some of those motherfuckers go up to 45 now where it's
Starting point is 00:41:01 like 45 30 and then if you want to tip a normal human amount, you have to enter it by yourself. Yeah, but then you're disrespecting that. You're sitting there. You make a custom amount that's just below all the averages. What's your general guiding philosophy on tipping? I always do whatever the maximum
Starting point is 00:41:20 allowed is. I do a lot of Uber Eats because I don't really like... Maximum allowed? You can infinitely tip. Well, no, no, no. Like up there. Not on the other. Usually it's 15, 25, 35. That's going up to 45% now.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I've only seen it to 26 here. That might be a California thing. In LA, that goes way higher. Yeah, it might be a California thing. There's all sorts of taxes associated with it. Make no mistake. Tipping should not be, in my opinion, off of jobs performance. That's the secondary component to tipping culture in America is that like everybody likes to feel like they're making a performance assessment in that process, like while they're being served.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And I think that that's part of the reason why it's also justified to, you know, the overwhelming majority of the public is that like you get to make this decision in this circumstance you're like a little lord you know what i mean you have your own little surf like serving you and i think that is probably the secondary component as to why like people don't really push back against it um but i see tipping as uh you know as as charity like i see it in the same way as charity in the sense that like i always max out because i know for a fact that this person who's like serving me in the service sector is a one million percent not making enough money and definitely needs the tip more than i do just a hypothetical back to the origin of tipping what if the service fucking sucks i still i still do it yeah it's so hard to just be like i'm not tipping off that's fucking i never not Yeah, it's so hard to just be like, I'm not tipping off. That's fucking tragic.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I never not tip unless it's like, the worst I'll do is like 10% if it's like really crap. That's what I thought. I will still tip, but it'll be cheaper. It'll be less. And on the other end, when the service is like so accepting, my baseline is 20 always. That's like the default. 20%. If it's like crazy and like, like they're just like,
Starting point is 00:43:05 we're just having a good time. I've, you know, I've, I've dropped some pretty big tips on people. No, I, I always,
Starting point is 00:43:11 I always max out the only time I don't tip is when I can't, because like they've stole the food. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. Sometimes bad service in the current day and age. Isn't just like someone being inattentive at a table. It's like egregious. Yeah. It's like i had someone deliver something three blocks away yeah and i had to go walk and get it i still tipped but i was like that's yeah no other than even in a situation
Starting point is 00:43:36 like that even in a situation like that i still max out because like i said i think i i feel like i feel like it's it's it's charity like people will get mad at me for this. Someone who's working in the service sector might see this and think, well, what the fuck? No, I think it literally is. The way I approach it is I think it's like an individual charitable donation you're giving to this person. I remove it entirely from the performance. So I think, have you been to Europe?
Starting point is 00:44:02 No. Okay, so one thing. You don't fly, bro. You can take a boat. You can sail. What the? You can take the ferry. You can take the Queen Mary over to London.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I got to see it with my own two eyes. So one thing I do think tipping culture does in the United States is I think it breeds better service. That's what I mean that's dude even the way it does though yeah but like dude think about that unpack that was the most capitalist i know unpack that for a second you're literally saying like it's basically a gunpoint at that point it's like the threat of like poverty from this meal uh that like if they don't serve you so well like they might not actually get paid
Starting point is 00:44:48 a decent amount especially when the actual uh the actual uh like low amount that they can get away with like paying you in a restaurant it's like you know two dollars and 25 cents in certain states as the baseline no and i think i agree with you on this. I'm just saying that the product of it is, the service in Europe is like the UK in particular. You go to a bar or whatever, you just... They don't give a damn.
Starting point is 00:45:16 They don't give a... You show up and I'm like, I'm going to take my business elsewhere. They're like, eh, fuck off. That's what they say. They don't give a damn. You have no leverage as a consumer in other countries, which is why I think American business dominates the globe. Amen, brother. That was a very patriotic stance.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I would rather have servers make a living wage and be able to survive. We don't disagree on this point, for the record. And then give me shit service. I don't give a fuck. It sucks, but... We don't disagree. No, I would disagree on that. We do disagree on this point, for the record. And then give me shit service. I don't give a fuck. It sucks, but... We don't disagree. No, I would disagree on that. We do disagree on this.
Starting point is 00:45:48 You literally would lose... You would throw a hissy fit every fucking time. I'm a huge fan of American business and entrepreneurship, like Disney. You're a big Disney guy? Big Disney. And they're fighting back against Ron DeSantis. That's true. They just had that big blow-up recently between the two of them.
Starting point is 00:46:04 How would you... Look, I know we're not supposed to... We don't do politics. We don't do politics on this podcast. We don't do politics but why would you piss on the company that literally made your state relevant? Because it's not real. It's just theater. Sorry. Let's move on. I don't want to get into politics. It's theater. He makes it seem like he's fighting
Starting point is 00:46:19 against Disney because they're woke and gay now. It's like, when has Disney not been gay, brother? What are you talking about? Disney is literally the gayest shit. Yeah, which is why I love Disney. Do you like Disney? Disney's alright, yeah. I don't like going to Disney at all, though. You're, like, close to Disney. Yeah, but I've just never really liked it. I think the parks
Starting point is 00:46:36 are just kinda ass. Really? Yeah. Like, it's cool if you're really into it. You get to see, like, all the props, but it's just fuckin' boring. Will will not go to Disney. I agree with you, too. I agree with you you i didn't say anything no look are you six flags guys i've only been to six flags once it was cool i like universal though universal studios is fucking great i'm a six flags guy i couldn't disagree with you more really the quality of the park at disney is far superior i think it's like spongebob and patrick in the for imagination, though. Like, the fun of Disney is picturing yourself in Disney
Starting point is 00:47:07 as opposed to actually being there in person. Because you're, like, in the locations. I will say Universal Orlando is much better than... If you go to Universal... Oh, you haven't been there. Don't fly. Yeah. But if you went to Universal California,
Starting point is 00:47:19 you'd see what I mean. Yeah, maybe Universal there is a big shithole, but here it's pretty fucking cool. It is pretty sick. Orlando Universal is pretty sick. They have Islands of Adventure, too. Can We get you out to LA. Yeah, what do we have to do? So I will suck your cock right on the live stream for the patreon or whatever. Yeah after on the paywall Yeah, he's that's definitely enticing now. He's definitely We get slurs in the dick sucking session for the paper. You'll say the slurs in between.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Whoa. All the media. All the media. It's WF1. I'd be super down to go to LA. I've been once, and I fucking hated it, though. Yeah. I think it's a big shithole.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah, you're right. It's not great. Sir, you are throwing rocks from Tampa. Yeah, but the beauty of Tampa is, like, everything is still accessible in LA. If you're trying to get from point a to point b it's gonna take yeah but that's also because like no one's here yeah which is nice though like that's so fucking nice like it's great i mean though the beauty of florida is that like in spite of uh in spite of it being in florida and it's probably gonna sink in like a couple years um We got about 20 years by good estimates. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:26 You know, other than the entire state. Yeah. Entire states projected to be underwater by like 2050 or something. That is insane. There's parts of the state that are currently underwater due to massive flooding. They'll build a levy,
Starting point is 00:48:40 right? They'll do something. They'll stop it. What? How do you think people are? He could be a Republican president. That was awesome. We're going to build a levee, folks, around all.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Come on. They built a wall across the entire southern border. They could build a levee. They could build a levee, yeah. Waterbenders, maybe. You can't get your way out of the soft ground that this state is built on when it wasn't supposed to be built on soft ground. Well, look.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Here's the deal. I think Republicans and people will do anything to avoid state income tax. What does that have to do with the levies? They'll build one. Oh, gotcha. To avoid California. Can you, is California going to go underwater? No, but we're probably going to be hit with a big earthquake.
Starting point is 00:49:17 That's what they've been saying for the last 1,000 years. What? It could be any day, though. It could be any day. Yeah, that's what they say. Like, from here until whatever You know that guy Living in Pompeii
Starting point is 00:49:27 Who's like They've been saying this forever It's dormant It's dormant He's also the guy in Pompeii Who like You know Fucking solidified
Starting point is 00:49:35 As he was masturbating What? He's like Oh no it's not a big deal Whatever Frozen in time Saying the F word One last nut
Starting point is 00:49:44 Look I think they should build a levy around florida and i'm gonna be i'm gonna run for governor hey when ronnie when ronnie's going up against donald but republicans need a gay governor they need a gay like other than what you mean half of them are yeah that's true but they need somebody that's out and proud gay yeah and like you need to be a be a way bigger scumbag. Ron DeSantis, I can't believe I'm saying this, is better than Rick Scott, who is like Voldemort. I would love to see you as a Republican politician.
Starting point is 00:50:15 You're like, I'm gay, and so I think that I know that I should never get married. It's like, yeah, we've got to get this gay stuff out of our books. We've got to get this gay shit out of our schools. We got to get this gay shit out of our schools. We got to get them out. It's fucking bullshit. Let's stop with this. I just don't think I should have the same rights as others.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Okay, you would win. Dude, are you kidding me? If you also dropped a couple like, Democrats are the real homophobes in there. You know what I mean? Treating me different, thinking that I need advantages. Treating me different, thinking that I need advantages. That's right. You know, treating me different because I'm gay.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Amen, brother. He's like, I want New Game Plus difficulty as a gay man. Let's go back to the good old days. No, I'm a registered Democrat and will be for the rest of my life. Why are you looking at him and telling him that? I just want him to know where I stand. Yeah, I was getting confused on where he stood up until then. One thing that I do love about Tampa, we got off the plane.
Starting point is 00:51:04 First of all, it's unnecessarily large of an airport. It's a big airport, actually. Is there that much commerce happening in Tampa? No, but they went hard on that airport. They redesigned all of it. There's a train service inside of it. I appreciate that, though, because LAX is a total piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:51:20 The worst. Absolute worst. When you fly, talk to me. I'm going to tell you where to go to make sure you don't go through Los Angeles. The Delta Terminal at LAX is like Ellis Island now. They have like four seats for like a thousand people. There's like one restaurant. It's so bad. There's like a two-hour line for Jersey Mike's.
Starting point is 00:51:38 This is the thing about California. Bet your ass, anytime they have some sort of thing that they're building to improve something, it'll make it 10 times worse. And if the duration, it'll make it 100 times worse because the construction is never ending. Yeah, they will never, ever do anything right. I am confident. Like, what have they done that's, like, shitty after trying to improve it? They built. L.A. exit.
Starting point is 00:52:02 L.A. Yeah, they did this thing where they moved all the Ubers off of a lot in order to take the traffic congestion out of the horseshoe. The airport's built like a horseshoe, right? You have your arrivals and departures, and you drive in, and then you go all the way around the horseshoe, and then you exit, right? They took the Uber out of there because of the congestion, and somehow it's more congested than it's ever been in history. Because they also brought it back. Because if you get Uber Black, then you can still avoid that. Then Uber Black will come and pick you up as though it's a private vehicle.
Starting point is 00:52:36 You know what I mean? No public transportation infrastructure to take you from anywhere in the city to the airport. No tram to connect you from any of the terminals. But that's the problem. Because L.A. is a car-focused city. You used to have trams. And then they bought them and literally destroyed them specifically so the city would have no actual public transit, like no working public transit.
Starting point is 00:52:58 This was a deliberate decision by car manufacturers. And we are living the impact of that still to this fucking day. That's why the congestion never goes away. The only way to get away is to get rid of congestion. That just feels like a terrible spot to live. I don't know why anyone would choose to be out there. It's the weather. The weather, the taxes are insane. It's crippling.
Starting point is 00:53:17 It's like 60% tax on income, right? I max out. I would like to steer the direction of the conversation elsewhere from our gripes, because we have 20 minutes left before we go behind the Paywall portion. Yeah, we are here for a reason. Yeah, yeah creator clash. Let's talk about it Yeah, so while you talk about it It's a bunch of youtubers fighting man like that's that's really about the gist of it i know a lot of them take it super seriously they don't want to get like hurt you're working it
Starting point is 00:53:51 yeah i'm doing commentary but i'm just i'm not providing any insight like i'm not i'm not like a real sports commentator i just say goofy shit yeah you don't have any dogs in the fight no i mean there's people i want to see but who do you do you want to see? So I think the one I'm most excited for is seeing Dad go ballistic. Dad in the first Creator Clash in KC was a feral animal. No one really expected
Starting point is 00:54:12 much out of Dad. I'm going to be honest because he's unassuming. Yeah. And he whooped that ass. No, he went crazy. He went rodeo. He actually went crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:21 So I want to see what he does this year. He's definitely the one I'm most excited for. Who's he fighting? I actually can't remember who his opponent is. Yeah, but they're probably going to need a coffin if he comes out like last year. Okay, so that's one of your predictions.
Starting point is 00:54:31 That's one of your stone cold locks. I know whoever he's fighting isn't as like psychopathic as he is, so I feel like he'll probably win. Stone cold lock. Yeah. Do you think Andrea Botez is going to win her fight? No, I don't think so at all. Really? No, I don't think so. So I'm a big Botez fan. I love Botez.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I'm a bit worried because I know Michelle Carre from BuzzFeed, and she's got that fucking dog in her. Professional cyclist does professional stunt work. Right. Like, she's a gamer. Yeah. I just feel like also Andrea Botez is probably not coming out there with like intent to kill and you need that no i don't think so i don't know about that i think she's like killer she's way too like content brained like i don't think she'd come out there like i want to hurt this
Starting point is 00:55:14 i think it's gonna be one of the best fights i think it's gonna be one of the best fights that's a sleeper pick okay um the other one i'm picking is stone cold Lock, Epic Mealtime. Harley? Over the WWE guy? Harley looks... He's changed his life. We saw him in the lobby. He looks insane. He's a big guy. He's got about six inches on the dude.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Yeah, he does. He is a much bigger guy than his opponent. His opponent's a WWE wrestler. He's also a dancer, too. He's got great cardio. Oh, my God. He's a dancer. He He's also a dancer, too. So he's got great cardio. Oh, my God. He's a dancer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 He's got that Patrick Swayze. His moves are nuts, too. I don't know if you've seen him dance, but he does some crazy breakdance moves. Yes. Is he about to fucking pop into Cabo Era? That'd be great. Like Eddie Gordo? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 He just starts stone locking him. Stone cold lock of the century of the week. Myth. Myth. Yeah. My horse is coming in. You think so? He's going to beat that ass. Who's he fighting?
Starting point is 00:56:11 Hundar. He's going to beat that ass. The face you made is the, look. I don't know. I'm willing to put a bet on that. We have the same trainers. I love Myth. I think it's going to be a tough fight.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I think it's going to be a very tough fight. Hundar is a big boy with experience. I'm telling you right now. I think it's going to be a tough fight. I think it's going to be a very tough fight. Hunder is a big boy with experience. I'm telling you right now, I've known Ali. I've watched him grow. And when last I spoke to him, he had bad intentions on his mind. You can tell when someone's been cum retaining, when they're pent up, when they're violent, he's violent. Wait, you think cum retaining is a critical strategy?
Starting point is 00:56:44 I think it helps. Is it strategy? I think it helps. Is it so? I studied exercise physiology. I don't know if you boys knew this. If you want to maximize gains, if you edge before working out without cumming, it actually improves your gains. I call that spiking teeth. By what percentage? They teach you that in exercise physiology?
Starting point is 00:56:59 It's something I just learned while I was still in college. Do you do that? No, I could never. I don't know how you have that kind of control to edge and then go work out. I just learned while I was still in college. Do you do that? No, I could never. I don't know how you have that kind of control to like edge and then go work out. I couldn't finish before working out or I'd have no motivation. Well, yeah, T levels drop after you ejaculate. But not even, I just, yeah, that's probably why I wouldn't have any motivation. Yeah, you need to spike that T. Yeah, I cannot jerk off.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You need to look at lewd photos on the internet before a bench press. Yes, I need to get photos from sexy men. If a sexy man that I was trying to get after sent me a photo of themselves and said, you need to look like so shredded. Yeah. I remember when I realized that was a thing because like my freshman year of college, there was a beautiful girl in the gym and she was like, how many pull-ups can you do? And I did like a hundred.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And I was like, the most I've ever done is eight. His arms kept going. I felt my lats just tearing. And I was like, keep going. Did you do anything with her? No. It's not about that, Austin. It's about the
Starting point is 00:57:59 fucking games, man. It's about sending a message. It has nothing to do with getting laid, dude. Have you ever had a situation like that? Not at all. Never. Not at the gym. He is the most peeled out of all of us, so maybe let's listen to him.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Shredded. I saw a picture of you as Jesus Christ in here. Yes. Which, by the way, I don't know if we can get the photo on the screen here, but it looks like you could be Mormon Jesus. You could put yourself in a Salt Lake City Mormon church, and nobody would even bat an eye. That's what happened on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:58:29 So on Facebook, the old moms and shit, they used to circulate my picture as a Jesus thing, like thumbs up if you like Jesus kind of thing. It was really cute. That is so awesome. It was so cute. A buddy of mine, his grandma framed my picture without ever knowing it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Yeah, I was going to say, they didn't know. They thought you were Jesus. I have an idea, man. Here's an idea for you. If you ever knowing it. Yeah, I was going to say, they didn't know. They thought you were Jesus. I'm an idea man. Here's an idea for you. If you ever need an album cover or a picture that you circulate, you build a cruciform out of dicks. Giant cocks. You've had a lot of dick related ideas since we got here.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And then you Jesus yourself on the cross on two massive penises. That's a big idea. That'd be very controversial. No, but you look so much like Jesus himself. I think Facebook moms wouldn't even notice this. You don't think the cocks would upset anybody? Yeah, that might be a little perturbing. I mean, they elected Trump to the
Starting point is 00:59:19 office of the president. You could convince people of anything. What would I be convincing them of? It's okay to hang on a cross of dicks. He died on a cross full of dicks so homosexuals couldn't have sex with one another. He's salvaging the dicks for himself.
Starting point is 00:59:36 To stop the gays from having any of the dicks. He died of too much... Never mind. I'm going to get this canceled. Other than the creator clash clash there's one issue that i wanted to talk about sure you recently did something um that i personally think is is a little bit scary we don't have to talk about it if you don't want to but you responded to trolls yeah you did it not only once but twice true and i have a lot of opinions on this because I used to be like that as well.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I used to give in, and I still do sometimes. But I think that it's ultimately unproductive because I feel like they benefit more from you giving them legitimacy, especially if they're coming at it from not like the standpoint of constructive criticism, but instead simply to gain clout. How do you feel about that? So – He knocked and he pointed. Oh.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Oh, okay. Can you toss me my phone real quick? Yeah. Let me just see what time it is. It is almost 4. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I can tackle this and then i'll probably
Starting point is 01:00:45 have to head out okay okay yeah so the way i look at it is i always give people the benefit of the doubt that where they're coming from is a place of good intentions and i feel like at the core there was a conversation to be had about the topic regardless of who was opining on it so like it wasn't just a troll like i still feel like other people had legitimate criticism of it so i wanted to tackle it more from that perspective while also maintaining that i disagreed with certain aspects of the situation i i understand where you're coming from but i always view everyone as coming from a place of like actual care even though i know that's not always going to be it not everyone's genuine no i i this is literally exactly the same thought process i went through a couple years back
Starting point is 01:01:31 uh and then once i realized that it cultivates an audience basically that uh for the other party and yeah just never really kind of in the space once you open up the floodgates i mean look hopefully it doesn't it doesn't end up that way. But I don't think it was an accident that shots were fired in your direction almost immediately after the Sneeko thing. I just always, I don't, I understand that that kind of personality exists. I just never really believe it until I see it. Because I just feel like people naturally don't want to foster a community
Starting point is 01:02:06 like that yeah that's what i thought too yeah i just feel like no one really wants that kind of audience in the first place so it wouldn't be like if it happens it's something they didn't plan on or things got misunderstood or lost in translation i think um i i agree with you i do think that some people do want that because they see the short-term benefits, and they don't necessarily think about the long-term consequences of having an audience like that. I've said this to a lot of people who do this kind of content over and over again, that it's not a sustainable business model for you if you're a content creator, and you're constantly going after whoever you think is on the downtrend and like pile on to it and you know cut commentary no matter how silly it might
Starting point is 01:02:50 seem you might actually get like a bunch of haters of that person to come and watch your channel for that brief duration but your viewpoints are gonna your view counts are gonna drop off immediately afterwards because they're not there for you they're they're not necessarily there for your commentary they're there to just like shit on the person um because they don't like them for whatever reason and um it creates a very toxic space for them i don't think that was charlie's motivation by any means why did you choose to respond that's not what i was talking about no i know i know that's what i'm saying because i like i said i think there really was a core discussion to be had on it. Like I recognize that I also wasn't super clear.
Starting point is 01:03:28 So I thought it was maybe a big misunderstanding on the whole situation and things getting tossed around and getting lost. Now I recognize that that was never really the intention behind it to have a conversation about it. But even still, I just never subscribed to the belief that people want that for their own personal community, right? Well, I'm here to tell you that they certainly do. It's possible. It's just, I don't know. I just don't like to believe people enjoyed that because that's just existing in a perpetual shit headspace. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Surrounded by people that you also probably don't even like. Yeah, no, literally. I think it is very toxic and there are a lot of spaces like that online especially in like the lol cow side of things where like there's a lot of communities that that basically gravitate towards that kind of content because i think we're living in dark times overall and i think that the more uh the more things seem uncertain the more people's futures look uh you know worse and worse the more they gravitate towards that kind of thing it's just another kind of disease of despair whether you know some people go to
Starting point is 01:04:30 alcohol some people go to drugs some people go to gambling and then others go towards this kind of commentary and content that like it doesn't really make them feel good but it at least makes them feel better in comparison to whoever they see on a pedestal that's like being brought down a peg. It's like this accountability politics, which there is a place for, I think. And I do think that constructive criticism is an absolute necessity. I think that's a very good thing. that take advantage of that better nature of content creators end up making it harder for everyone to even have a charitable
Starting point is 01:05:10 and constructive conversation. That was a powerful segment. That's a good segment. Especially piggybacking off of wieners. Yeah, I know. This is what we like to do. Crucify on cock. We've really covered everything.
Starting point is 01:05:21 We can go out on a lighter note. You are a cock expert. What nickname do you have for your penis? I've never nicknamed it. That's insane. I've also only ever taken one dick pic. Really? I was so unbelievably ashamed.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Did you send it to somebody? I wish I still had it. Pull it up. It was repulsing. Show it to Austin. It was repulsing. Why was it repulsing? He would puke.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Really? I sent it to my girlfriend at the time, and I didn't know how to take one, so I was laying in my dorm room bed, and I pulled my pants down, and I took it from my knee. You went balls up? Yep. So I took it from my knee, looking at my head. Mistake.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Your eyes. I have a natural curve, right? So it's like looking up at me like I've got myself a gunpoint, and my cock looks like a piece of cheap gun. It was so bad, I deleted it. I didn't send it to her because she would have broke up with me if I did it. I don't think that that's a bad dick pic. Balls up? No, no, no. Austin is greasing you because he wants. I deleted it. I didn't send it to her because she would have broke up with me if I did. I don't think that that's a bad dick pic. It was terrible. Balls up.
Starting point is 01:06:07 No, no, no. Austin is greasing you because he wants you to do it. Balls up. I don't have it anymore. Look, balls up, it's because most gay men take care of themselves. I like to see little balls up. It wouldn't change the structure, though. It looked like a Digimon devolving. It was a terrible angle from always. Did you know monsters? I appreciate the anatomy like a Digimon devolving. It was a terrible angle
Starting point is 01:06:26 from all the ways. I appreciate the anatomy of a man. I really do. There was no anatomy to even be seen here. It was so... It was almost like an abstract work. Charlie, why don't you retake it real quick? And we'll analyze it behind the paywall.
Starting point is 01:06:39 We'll put it on the paywall. Charlie, you gotta go. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me on. Everybody knows who you are, but what do you want to plug? Moist Wrestling League. It's coming out to defeat the WWE, baby. Can't wait.
Starting point is 01:06:53 When are you going to get me in the ring? Brother, we were talking about that. I reached out and I heard back crickets. When did you reach out? Via Twitter. In the thread, respond. Put me in the ring, daddy. You could have just DM'd me.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I know, but it's more hype. Can I have a wrestling character? Overly flamboyant wrestling character. The thing about wrestling is there are no flamboyant characters at all. Oh. It's homophobic. If you know anything about wrestling. They're all overly flamboyant.
Starting point is 01:07:20 God damn it, I'd walk out of that. What was it? Gold Star or something? Gold Dust. Gold Dust Was it not Gold Dust Gold Dust Yeah Gold Dust was so Fucking hype
Starting point is 01:07:29 His father Is like one of the Coolest wrestlers He had a song that was He's just a working man And he was like The white guy For the black people
Starting point is 01:07:40 Wow I did not know that Honky Tonk Redneck He was He was Honky Tonk, Redneck. He was Honky Tonk, but Donk of Donk before it existed. I love that.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I didn't know anything about Gold Dust's dad, but Gold Dust was fucking hype. He and Dusty Rhodes. I think his dad's Dustin Rhodes. Dusty Rhodes is their dad. Dusty Rhodes was like... He was dope. Charlie, you were a fabulous guest. Oh, well, thanks for having me on. We really enjoyed having you on, truly.
Starting point is 01:08:11 And you made the trip worth it. I'm glad, yeah, since you're leaving tonight. Fuck yeah. If you would have bombed, it would have sucked. Yeah. We would have buried the episode. I would have stormed out of here in a fit of rage. You would have still had your points, though.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah, that's true. I'm very excited to ball later tonight. That'll be fun. and also ball tomorrow. If you boys are down, we can ball both days. I'm fucking down, baby. Those are send-it pics. Yeah, recreate my cock.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Once Austin is gone, we can all send you a piece. Is your basketball court air-conditioned? No, it's outside. Is it air-conditioned? I'm going to go to Miami then. I'll see you guys. I'll see you. Alright, that's it for us. We'll see you behind the paywall.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Peace. Thank you. Bye-bye. Twitch con. And then they're like, we met. And I was like, oh my god, I was hammered. I would rather have them hit me in the face with a shovel than have that interaction. It happens to me all the time. It's the worst thing when you're just like,
Starting point is 01:09:05 when they're like, they clearly know who you are, they clearly have met you before, and you just are blanking out. You're drawing a fucking line. You know how you get out of it, though? What? They're like, unless they ask you, do you remember where we met?
Starting point is 01:09:17 I'm sorry, I just got out of my head. What? I'm sorry, I'm recovering from... Have you ever worked the steps? Have you let God into your life? I'm recovering from a heroin addiction.

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