Fear& - Pokimane Addresses The Clips... | Fear&

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I can't believe that for the longest time, you have been making it seem like you're actually getting... Wait. Oh, you didn't know this. Stop what you're saying to me right now. I don't think this hasn't even ill in it. You... No, it does. It's at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You need to look at me right fucking now. He didn't know this. And gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the fear and podcast. We have a very special guest. Her name is Pokeyman. Welcome. Welcome back to the Fierand podcast, Pokeyman. And I would like to be the first to tell you,
Starting point is 00:01:27 happy Mother's Day. Yeah. That's actually why I'm here. Thank you. For the Mother's Day episode. Yes. So motherly. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:01:33 The Clippers. Get ready. Yes. Get ready. Yes. It's going to be like, it's going to be like Rubet sponsored account with like 300,000 followers. Oh, my Lord.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Pokemon is pregnant and has 18 children already. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Oh, no. You gotta cut that. Thank you guys so much. I think I've got to go. Yeah, we can't do.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Comedy's illegal? Yeah. Sometimes. First of all, yes. Yeah. Comedy is so illegal. It's never been more illegal than it is right now at this moment.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's crazy. Like, all of the, all the Republicans that were like, ah, comedy is legal. What do you mean? Oh, I hate woke. They're all like, you can't make a single goddamn joke. How could you make a joke about Donald Trump?
Starting point is 00:02:16 We must kill you. We must jail you. They switched up on us. Yeah, those clippers really do fucking love you, though. Yeah. I love everyone. I keep falling for it. Pogie, I need to stop.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I need to. You are the worst. I'm the worst. What did you fall for? I literally asked her. I was like, are you okay when she got here today? You know, it's crazy? You're not the only one.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah. There was this, um, this like AI photo of me crying. Yes. Attached to some clip. That was the one. My own manager, one of my managers texts me and was like, hey, are you okay? I saw you really emotional on stream last night. And, you know, it was, I don't really check Twitter unless I'm like prompted to.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And so I was like, oh, like, I don't know, they must have seen something. I didn't, I know I covered some sensitive topics, but I didn't recall being emotional. So I was like, not at all. Not at all until I actually went on. And I was like, I sent it to him. And I was like, was it this? And he's like, yeah. And I was like, that's not actually me crying.
Starting point is 00:03:19 You know, that's crazy. I've realized back in the day, people would clickbait, obviously. It's always been the case. But nowadays, the new meta is just like taking a clip. Lying. And just lying about it. They're not even massaging the truth. They're not even massaging the truth.
Starting point is 00:03:36 They're not like, oh, brings up controversial topic and it's emotional. Like, they'll just be like in support of thing that she is actually against in the clip. And what's even crazier is they'll put the clip on there. So it'll be like, I've noticed something they do with me all the time where they'll put like a minute and 30 second rant that I go on, right? So if you actually watch it, you're like, this is not at all. That's not at all what they said. And at first I was like, oh, well, I'm glad that they put the whole thing. But no one watches the clip.
Starting point is 00:04:09 There's like two replies that are like, hey, did anyone watch this? I don't think they said that. Yeah, I scroll down to see. 20,000 likes. Yeah. I scroll down to see the one guy. Hopefully that's like, I actually watched a clip and it's saying the opposite thing that you're claiming.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Never. It's like buried between like 18 different algorithmic hustlers from Bangladesh whose names are like saved the white race in the West 1488, you know? An AI picture of you as shocker from Spider-Man. Yeah, yeah. It's just like, you know, this guy. I feel like I might be I might legitimately Mars liked that one yeah I might legitimately be the most
Starting point is 00:04:50 yeah I'm gonna be the most famous guy in India because all the white supremacists account all the white supremacists accounts are like oh whenever whenever we post about this guy people people love it famous man in India because of the AI trash accounts they're like oh we just keep making I'm imagining like a like an Indonesian content farm And they're just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:05:14 They're like, I really don't know anything about this guy, but we just keep making these AI photos. And they love it. They can't seem to get enough of it. Okay, wait. I will add one other thing to the AI photo thing. Yeah. The craziest part was when I saw it for a split second, I was like, did I cry? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And I had like this tissue. Yeah. And I was like, did I have a tissue? Oh, no. And so I have a theory that they used a photo from my recent stream, but maybe, maybe, maybe. meshed it with a photo of me crying from like years ago. Yeah. So we looked like extra realistic.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I don't know. I looked at it and I was like, I really had something for a second. You had cognitive dissidents. I did. Wow. Also, when you have people around you being like, are you okay? You cried so much last. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You're like, did I? Yeah. That's crazy. We got to get Bernie Sanders. He's trying to do a moratorium on AI. This is going to be the main thing for us. Yeah. They're talking about like labor-related incidents.
Starting point is 00:06:12 you know, environment, yeah, boring. Bernie, what do you think about the clip farmers? Can you please do something about them, Bernie? I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. No, he'll know, dude. Wait till they start doing it on him. Dude, so, so, I mean, how do you even,
Starting point is 00:06:29 when it's that, like, extreme, how can you, can you issue, like, a cease and desist on that? Or is there any protection against that? I think it's pretty hard on Twitter, not just hard, but it's hard to measure the return on your investment time-wise and financially when it comes to just... It's like playing whack-a-mole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:49 You know, you delete one... You get one tweet deleted. There's another that pops up. So I just try to go the route of, like, educating people, hey, maybe watch the clips and double-check things to make sure. Or just don't believe anything you see on Twitter really. Yeah, but the problem is a lot of people are very excited to believe everything they see on Twitter. They're like, wait, I said two cappuccino.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I'm sorry. I thought I ordered that what I thought I ordered it. Oh. I told you I got you two cappuccino. First of all, you didn't get me shit. What? Okay. You're making, this is, I bought these. I can't believe that for the longest time, you have been making it seem like you're actually getting.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Oh, you didn't know this. Stop what you're saying to me right now. I don't think this hasn't even ill in it. You, no. No, it does. It's at the bottom. You need to look at me right fucking now. He didn't know this. He's been buying the coffees?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Whoa. You rat, fuck. No, no. No, only the last. You will sit there and you will let. No. Yeah, no, it's true. For months.
Starting point is 00:08:05 No, not for months. No, not for months. No, not for months. Only the last two times. Oh. Only the last two times. I have the Uber eats receipts to prove it. Times.
Starting point is 00:08:17 The last two times. He just decided. Well, I thought no, no, no, no, no, I have been getting all the coffee with my bank account. I have been, you can get all the money. I have spent hundreds of dollars on coffee. Okay, I'm sorry. I thought for a moment, you're insinuating that for months he has been taking the credit for getting us coffee while charging a son. No, it would have been crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:38 No, no, no, not for months, at least probably last three or four weeks. I'm just kidding, two weeks. Two weeks. The last two times, because this guy hits me up in the morning, Poki. He hits me up in the morning And he says, get me two cappuccinos And I said, oh yeah, you're going to get your fucking cappuccino And so I text him in his card
Starting point is 00:08:57 So I text Hannah And I was like, hey Hannah The boss wants two cappuccinos And by the way, how about a vanilla latte? You know what? He's facilitated. I fully swung to your side now. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:09 The double drink You should charge him. I've spent every pokey, every morning I would get up and I would always. And I would always. order a copy. I would ask for everybody's copy orders. I give you credit for that. And I thought that I had been lied to for years. No. I thought that I had been lied to for years.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Rat, fuck. Well, can you imagine though if you had been doing that? You were actually mad at me. I was mad. You were actually mad. If for two and a half years, you've every week been like, I take care of the coffee. Yeah, you're supposed to take care of the coffee. Why am I taking care of the coffee? Hold on, Hassad. What do you mean? What of what? You got. You got. You got You chose to be the coffee guy. Since when did that happen? Am I wrong? Did he not choose to be the coffee guy?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I chose to love farming. You love farming. It got really expensive. Every time we have a guest on. I looked at my overeat's delivery and I was like, that's a lot. Every week. Guys, we have to stop fighting our mothers. Guys, it's more work for him to actually get all the orders and get it done and make sure it gets done than it is for Hassan to lose like 20 bucks.
Starting point is 00:10:14 That's right. Thank you so much, Pocke. I knew you be on my side. I knew. you'd be on my side. Stop defending this griff. I just need to apologize for my initial reaction.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I thought I had been duped for the last two years. No, it was great reaction. It's going to make for an excellent clip. Out of context. Yeah. No, no, no, no. We're going to have to have the context.
Starting point is 00:10:34 They can't be looking like a demon. We're going to get a Twitter post. Will launches into slur-filled red. And Austin is AI crying? That's right. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Nobody, I, you know, I do a lot for him. You know who I feel for the worst with AI is Billy Eilish. I feel like every two seconds, I see a picture of her living her life and then a picture next to her of like a shape contorted into like the most insane thing I've ever seen it. And then someone's saying Grock, please make her do this post. I'm going to jump across this. What's wrong? You're lock in, bro. We're doing a pocket. I'm locked in. I got to stir it. I got to stir it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm so sorry. That's okay. You're not. You're not sorry and you will keep being messy for the rest of the podcast. That's a lot better. Why do you keep lying? I'm not lying to anybody. And most importantly, yourself.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I'm not lying to myself. Okay. Continue. Did you see there was a fan video this week on the, your end, Reddit, yeah, of you and there was a fan of yours, but the title of the video was Austin Show is a terrible person. I saw this.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It was a video. It's an awesome. She shows a terrible person, Poki, and it was an eight-minute video of her just glazing me the entire time. Oh, amazing. I know, but I was so, I was so, I saw the title, I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, but I was like, she was good, she was good. It was a beautiful video. And to that, to that person, I don't even want to call her a fan.
Starting point is 00:12:08 She's a friend. To that friend. She's family. She's a mother. She's family. Part of the fear and family, working class family. We have to kill him with me. And I'd like to thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We're going to bury him in Portland. At the end of this, and the end of our tour. I have a gift for Austin, actually, this week. I have an airline story. Yay! Poki! I have an airline story.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Don't lean into this. Oh, wait. What is it? You're feeding into his ride. Did you see Frontier Air yesterday? Yes, they, I do. I know what happened. Pocke is horrible.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Oh, no. Oh, my God. It was horrific. I have no idea what. Frontier Airlines flight, taking off from Denver to Los Angeles, late at night. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:12:49 somebody breached the air. airport boundary and ran across the runway and was absolutely destroyed by Frontier Airlines A3201. They jumped into the engine. They jumped into the engine. Wait, they were destroyed by... The plane killed them. They ran over...
Starting point is 00:13:03 Wait, what? They got sauce. Wait, actually? Yes. They turned into spaghetti and meatballs. Yes. They weapons sprinted. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Right into the engine. Is there a video? Yes. Wait, wait, there's a video of the person running into it? No, there's a video of someone inside the plane. Yeah. Now, there's a chance. chance they didn't see the plane coming and perhaps
Starting point is 00:13:22 they were just Austin Austin they didn't see the plane coming I'm sorry logistically could you explain that to me a bit more plane go why person running it yeah well I I think I think it was explain the angle well I mean I don't I don't know I don't know anything about the person
Starting point is 00:13:38 behind the engine yeah plane is taking off and they're kind of doing they're like we're taking off video no explosion of flame back of the engine and it presumably that was the person Oh, no, not presumably. So wait, do you see the spray?
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's all... Jesus Christ. It's mostly fire. Well, the reason why I ask is because, like, in, you know, TV shows, like, boys or whatever, like, hyper violent shows, they usually just go, and it's like a spray of mist, like pink miss. So I was wondering if that's what it looks like in the real world or if it's just the fire of the engine. I haven't seen this in practice. Well, I've seen a bunch of goose.
Starting point is 00:14:20 geese be thrown into an engine, frozen geese. They did that to re, sort of redo the... You watched this. Where did you watch this? This is one of those things... He looks at me like I'm supposed to evaluate him, but he is a bunch of...
Starting point is 00:14:39 Okay, honestly, if your mom walks in, are you turning on porn? If the video... If the video that you're watching... Someone flicking frozen geese into the engine. No. All not turning on porn. No, no, Mom, I'm watching porn.
Starting point is 00:14:52 No, because at the time when I was writing this video, I wasn't out to my mom. The question I'm presenting to you that you're failing to comprehend is... No, no, it's gay. Oh, sorry. Do I put on gay porn? I have to come out to her. Don't you think it's better
Starting point is 00:15:06 that your mom knows you as not a bloodless sociopath but instead a homosexual man? You're missing the context. The calculation here is gay porn is better than what you're looking at. Miracle on the Hudson. Soli Solenberger rescued and saved hundreds of lives in 2009. How many geese had to pay the price?
Starting point is 00:15:27 But some geese flew into the engines, both of them, big geese. And so in order to determine how it happened, they had to recreate the scenario. So I imagine they found a bunch of geese and unfortunately murdered them and froze them. Can we find the geese? And they put and they threw them into the working engine to see how many geese it would take to stop the end. 16-year-old Austin being like, I have to see these. You have to know how many geese. I was 16.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It takes to go to critical failure. But anyway, back to the frontier airlines flight situation. I was going to say, are there any details? Well, so I don't know. But one thing, first thing that came to mind is this poses a very high national security risk. The fact that somebody got on the tarmac, if there was somebody that wanted to commit an act of terror, they could get a couple people and then just throw themselves in front of the engines. And then... There's got to be a better way.
Starting point is 00:16:21 What? What, how would that be in a... They would chuck themselves in front of the engines, and then the plane would be at a critical point of departure. Question. Yeah. I didn't see this video, and I didn't know about the story. I was too busy going out to parties.
Starting point is 00:16:36 We'll talk about that in a second. Yeah, I'm cool now. He just had to mention that. I had to drop that in there. Not a big deal. Logistically, did the guy get on the tarmac and like crawl into the engine before the plane started moving? No, the plane is going down the runway.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, it's going down the runway. You know the movie weapons? Oh, yeah. You know the movie weapons where they like, he like Naruto printed and jumped into the engine? You can do that? Well, I mean, this guy's an innovator. Well, that's impressive. No, this is a, this is a national security risk.
Starting point is 00:17:13 That is the, I don't even know if it is because I feel like that's not replicable. Well, you need to be like a. ninja to you also have to be in a very rough place well what was the purpose well i think suicide something about the the run and i'm like there's got to be more to it i don't yeah do you see what i mean though like do we if you're about to commit suicide i feel like that's a like there's probably easier ways oh no that's the that's the worst way yeah and also yeah well i mean it probably happened fairly quickly like you train for that it's like being dropped in a giant blender.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Do you, do you train for that, you think? Yeah, it's horrific. And let me put this into context. The plane at this point would be at full thrust. So the turbines just... Oh, oh, you're showing it. He's like, he's in there. The plane I was on, LA hit a person that was on the runway.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I mean... There it is right there. Boom. Wow. Yeah. Boy, do you want to show it on the pod? So how low is the engine? It's like...
Starting point is 00:18:18 It hangs probably just like not that far off the ground. I'm a smaller plane too. That's not that small of a plane, but you would certainly be at. Yeah. Are you sure about the running and the jumping? Yeah. I just don't understand. I mean, unless new details have come out, as I understood it, this guy jumped a fence,
Starting point is 00:18:37 ran across the tarmac, like, beard into the oncoming plane. Yeah. Lined it up with the engine. But I don't know. My thing is this. What if they were on drugs and they were trying to catch a ride or something? Because... I feel like there's better ways.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Well, no, I know there is, but I'm just trying to say... I mean, the price of gas is crazy. Think about it. If you're running at a plane, those landing lights are blinding. How the hell are you going to see where the engine is? Yeah. You know what I mean? I think he missed.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You think he was trying to grab the wheel. I don't know if he... And he was trying to grab the wheel. I mean, you think he was trying to grab the wheel. Yeah. I mean, you think he was trying to grab the wheel. trying to go Tucson to Atlanta for free. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So what do you, like, what do you think this? If I was the captain? No, no, no. How many geese do you think the equivalent of a human? Damage. Well, we'll get there too, Sully. Listen, I'm asking you, this is in your wheelhouse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:37 How fast do you think the plan was going by the time it? Well, they, they had, now, the beauty of Denver International Airport is the runways are extremely long. 10,000, 11,000 feet. Very long. In contrast, the runways at Burbank, about 6,000. So it's about double the size of the runway. So you have a lot of runway.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So at a certain point when you're taking off, there is a point of no return, which is you must take off. And they were probably prior to this point. So you go V1. It looks pretty fast, though. It looks like it was about to fly up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But because the pilots made the calculation that they had enough runway to stay. stop, but at a certain point you're not supposed to, you're supposed to just go. But can you even take off? Yes, you can take off. We had an engine failure on where we in our simulator, but not when we were taking on. No,
Starting point is 00:20:29 we did. We crashed, but, but we were, it's because I didn't know what to do, but now I know what to do, but we we had crashed because of the long story. But I thought our engine failure did not happen while we were. No, we were, we were rotating. Oh, when you turned it off. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:20:45 My point is... That wasn't an entry failure. So you can... Yeah, there's a point in no return, but this point... So to answer your question, they were probably going... Getting close. I'd say at least 100 knots, probably 115 knots, which is probably about 120, 130 miles an hour. That's...
Starting point is 00:21:02 You know what's crazy? That's impressive to catch something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you have to kind of calculate exactly where the spot you need to be at, because this is not like a slow-moving vehicle at all. This is 130 miles. And it's huge.
Starting point is 00:21:18 A321. It's not a small plane. That's why I'm saying this is not a replicable crime. I don't think. Well, it's an incredibly impressive feat of athleticism and even mathematical calculation. And it's also unbelievably tragic.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Well, this is a tragic. Yes. Yes, thank you. It is a tragic. It's tragic. Oh, fuck, the clip farmers are going to go to town with this one. Oh my God. Dude,
Starting point is 00:21:46 I was talking about World War II history. Okay. Very dangerous. As you guys know, right, I love Easy Company and I love America. And you're a real band of brothers. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:56 I'm a real band of brothers guy. He said, I stand up in salute. Whenever I watch Band of Brothers, you know, America really fucking put belt-ass on the Nazi scourge. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Also a fan of FDR too. Maybe not all of the things he did, but definitely some of them. My favorite president. So I'm talking about pro-hard. He could really rock a blank It has this ever happened to you? Intense anal distress.
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Starting point is 00:23:12 You can even score same day appointments. Yes, that's ZOC, doc.com slash fear. Zocococ.com slash fear. Thank you Zoc doc doc for approving this message. I'm talking about Pearl Harbor, right? And I did not know. And I want to ask you guys if you knew this. And maybe they taught this to you in Canada.
Starting point is 00:23:40 A lot of people don't know that there was an oil embargo that America implemented on Japan because Japan was obviously doing basically the Holocaust in China and also Korea. And they were threatening Western territories in the Indo-Pacific. And that's when America was like, first America was like giving stern condemnations to Japan. They were like, man, don't do that. Like 100,000 to 300,000 slaughtered in China. Oh, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:24:09 But then when they actually started threatening like French, you know, colonial territories, then America was like, okay, we're stopping steel exports and we're stopping oil shipments that are going to Japan. And then Japan was like, all right, these guys are going to fight us. We got to go do a first, you know, preemptive first strike in Pearl Harbor. And I explained this concept and I was fascinated that like many Americans didn't know. So first, do you guys know that? Very familiar.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I know, because you literally watch World War II documentaries before you have sex. I think you forget who I am. I'm keenly aware of it because my grandfather was actively involved with producing and managing oil during World War II. That's true. Did you know? Did you learn about this in Canada? Might have, but it was so long ago. I don't recall that detail.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I pulled up an American history textbook and they like, it's like a brief footnote because I always wonder like, do they not teach this in school? Oh my God. Or are you a bad student? Oh, my God. Asan is literally doing the America deserve Pearl Harbor. No, that's I was wondering I was wondering when it was going
Starting point is 00:25:17 No, so the reason why I'm explaining the story is because like I'm going through this like history lesson And literally now people think I'm saying Like America is there at Pearl Harbor I'm like what's the thing you're talking about? Oh my God It's been a joke that I've been running forever
Starting point is 00:25:32 No and and people are running with it No people are like oh my God I'm a commie who supports Imperial Japan No of course not Like what the fuck is wrong with people No, I know you don't support it No, but it's crazy that like You can't even fucking describe
Starting point is 00:25:48 Like historical events that took place Without people just being like Oh, I guess you loved Pearl Harbor It's like no, I didn't actually Like I'm very much in support of America In World War II, what the fuck? Right I was, yeah
Starting point is 00:26:01 And we won the war, thankfully Yes Well, the USSR also put a lot of You know He always tries to put a lot of manpower It was victory day yesterday So we I would tell you what
Starting point is 00:26:11 no matter how much of a leftist I become, I will never become, I will never become, I will never become less patriotic about the World War II. I'm patriotic about World War II as well. I tell you what, in the United States, we were so powerful.
Starting point is 00:26:29 We're conquered and just destroyed. American steel, American machinery, but Russian manpower. Yes, yes, and not Russian, actually. That's also a misdemeanor. But the use of the nuclear bomb is. not something that I supported, but I wasn't alive, but I couldn't say anything, but
Starting point is 00:26:45 retroactively, oh. What do you want to talk about? Well, I want to actually bring something up. It's very, it's very sad thing. I'm sorry, but I feel I want you to talk more. I'm happy listening to. Please, I don't want to interrupt. On Mother's Day, it's horrific.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yes, you are. We have talked about a lot of horrific things. Yes, we have. We have. How is your time on the Fier ad podcast? We talked about a lot of horrific things. We talked about a guy getting diced. Yeah, what's on your mind, pokey?
Starting point is 00:27:20 Actually, funnily enough, I do have a dilemma to pose to you all. I love it. Since, you know, I'm in a room of guys and very different guys, so I feel like you might have helpful differing perspective. That's right. So, I have been friends with this guy for a long time. Okay. So excited.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I can't wait. I can't wait. So excited. So I've been friends with this guy for a long time. We don't like hang out one on one. We have a lot of mutuals. We see each other at group events, right? Group hangouts, whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And, you know, at some point, oh, I had invited him to something with a bunch of friends. We did it. And then like a few months later, I was going to invite him again. So I go to message him. I'm like, hey, are you free on this day? Blah, blah, blah. And he doesn't answer for a couple days, which is on my life. like him. So I go and I check his socials and I see he's on vacation. So I'm like, okay, he's probably
Starting point is 00:28:19 just like busy. But then also when I went to his socials, I saw he unfollowed me. Whoa. He's got a new girl in his life. No, hold on, Will. Jesus. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Jesus. Jesus. Fuck. Shat of the late. So yes, I noticed he unfollowed me and like across the board on everything. And I was like, that's peculiar. That's very. That's very. Especially of a friend of like years, years, years, years, years. You have the heart drop feeling. A little bit. And I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:28:49 It was so peculiar that I was convinced someone had told him some lie that I must now clear up or something because I'm like, there's like no other reason. Right. Anyway, so I follow up and I'm like, hey, just saw you're on vacation. Also, I saw that you unfollowed me. Like, I hope everything's okay. Yeah. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You called it out. Period. Oh, period. Oh, period. Oh, period. Well, you know. Period. Girl, I love how bold you are.
Starting point is 00:29:13 No, no, I'm not going to lie. Most people would just eat that. No. No, that's good. I'm telling you, we have such like a good friendship. Chemistry, okay. That I was like, oh, like for you to do this, something must have happened. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:27 This isn't like some random person. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So I was like, I was really convinced like someone had told them a bold face lie or something. Right. So I was like, hey, like, I hope everything's okay if there's some kind of issue or misunderstand. like let me know. Hope you're all, whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:44 He gets back to me the next day. He's like, oh, yeah, sorry. I'm out of town. I can't make it. As for unfollowing you, I unfollowed you out of respect for my relationship. What? And then, okay, I called that from John.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, I'm not done. My blood's starting to boil. Then he said, there's absolutely nothing wrong between us. Yeah. I hope that clears up any confusion. Had you had you had an intimate relationship?
Starting point is 00:30:13 No. Never flirted, never went on a date, never anything. Okay, I can tell you the exact X, Y, Z of this. I can tell you the exact X, Y, Y, Y, why. Can I? Present your dilemma first. I mean, for starters, it's a situation where I'm like, what, there's nothing, you know, I'm not going to combat this, your choice or her, the relationship choice.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But I can't lie, I was a little bit hurt because I thought we had. Don't be hurt. A good friendship. Don't be hurt. Really? This is, okay. I mean, it's a little bit of a compliment.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm going to tell you exactly what happened. I'm going to tell you. Wait, wait, wait, sorry. Can I add one more like big question mark in here? He, like this is not a new girl.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Right. So, yeah, he got caught. Oh. Caught, do we what? I'm going to tell you right now. Oh, I'm going to tell you right now.
Starting point is 00:31:02 What? Okay. I'm going to give you the X, and I'm probably within a few percentage total accuracy. Okay. I can guarantee. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I needed answers because, you know, I can't ask him. One drunk evening, he and his woman friend were either playing the, who do you think is cute of your friends game or? Landmine. Or she was like, can I use your phone to order food game? She's going through his saved Instagram posts. He sees, she sees one of you. And she's like, what's, and he's like, oh, that's. And the seed was planted.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Or the seed was planted. And then time has passed. And it gets more, she's like so why, like, why do you, why is she the cute friend? And he's like, I don't know. We just like, I've always thought. She's like, but you guys talk a lot. And he's like, we don't. We don't.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Okay, here's, no, no, this is what it is. Okay, are you ready for this? Yes. Instagram stories favor who you watch on Instagram or who you communicate with every now and then on Instagram. Or, you know, who likes your posts on Instagram, that kind of thing. There's some algorithm behind it. Pokemon's Instagram story is at the top. Number one.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Number one or maybe number two. He really wants to know what shirt I'm wearing today and what brand it's from. Totally platonic. But he sees that. You're right there at the top. Or this is another one. Top of the search bar. He's scrolling.
Starting point is 00:32:30 There's no way that this was self-imposed. Yes. There's no way that he just one day was like, I can't follow Pokemon anymore. I can't do this? Yeah. Out of respect for my relationship. What took place, what took place. I fully respect my word.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Either your Instagram stories popped up. Either Instagram stories popped up. I didn't for the last however many years we were together. But today I respect her now. Yeah, something came up for sure. You were in the search bar or there was a, there was a scrolling situation where maybe he liked on accident or deliberately a post of yours. And it was seen by the partner. And they went, why do you like it?
Starting point is 00:33:08 that photo. What about that photo was so good? Did he like, did he like all your photos? No. Recently you posted you were like, I'm back in the gym. I saw it on Twitter, right? You were like, oh, I'm back in the gym. What if he liked that photo? What if he liked that photo? And then I can totally see a situation. Why do you
Starting point is 00:33:24 like that? Why do you like that? Why do you like that? Guys, guys, I'm really and run it through. I'm like, oh, because I think help. Help is good. Yeah. When's the last time you worked out? Oh, you're a big gym guy now?
Starting point is 00:33:40 Come on. I said we were going to start. Do you like when I work out? You've never liked one of my workout posts. I said we're going to start working out together, remember? I want you to unfollow her on everything. I want you to unfollow her on everything. She's my friend.
Starting point is 00:33:53 No. Okay, it's fine. I'll follow him. Guys, I completely understand. I really do. I think I was just perplexed because I never see him like my stuff. We rarely see each other. It's like a long-term group friend kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Okay. Last story. But I don't disagree because, again, I don't know exactly every single person who's liked everything. Are you ready for this? Yes. Okay, this is the last theory. Again, drunken night, something like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's not, you're not the inciting incident. Okay. But you might be in the back of the mind of the partner, the other, the female in the situation. and something takes place that causes the woman of the relationship to demand a mass unfollow spree and you get hit in the cross in the crossfire. Does he still follow other women? I think so. I think that's also why I was like, what about our friendship?
Starting point is 00:34:56 And again, no flirting, no nothing ever. You know what? I think that this, I know you, you obviously handling it very well. And you're doing the right thing right now. But I don't respect that at all. I mean, there are some couples where, like, you can't even acknowledge that other people are attractive. I just don't respect it as human beings.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Like, obviously, it's unbelievably insane. I respect monogamy, of course. But are you serious? Do you hear this man? We started laughing at it. You're Mr. threesome. Well, hold on, hold on. Every fucking, every, every.
Starting point is 00:35:36 fucking episode. Yes. I'm going back to Portland early so I can fuck my cancer. He told me in his morning he was he had a tragic blow to his social life because his his his threesome partner was in a bird accident where he received lacerations on his face. So he had to bench him. No. Bench. That sounds like
Starting point is 00:36:00 I didn't have to bench him. He's like I gotta go out and find some more ass. No I didn't Fetch him. Pokey, don't listen. Tropaganda. Well, listen, I, even if you don't participate, I think you can respect monogamy. Of course. He just may need a couple week break. Yeah, you just, you respect monogamy from a fire. You don't participate in it.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I respect it from a far. I respect people's rights. Yeah, yeah. To engage in monogamy. Yeah. I feel that. But I think that even though people are monogamous, we need to understand we're human beings, right? I will always find other people attractive.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You will find other people attractive. You will find other people, you will find other people attractive. It's part of being human. Acting on those impulses is another thing and that disrespects monogamy and I respect if that's your engagement, you can't break those boundaries and push those boundaries. But I think that insecurity in a relationship
Starting point is 00:36:48 in that particular, things like that, is such a big turnoff. I mean, I've been there, I've been on the other side of it. I may be vulnerable. I've been the insecure partner at moments in time where I was like, so I noticed you liked a lot of his photos.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Why is that? You know? I've been there before. I've worked through it. And now I see sometimes, and I see sometimes, and I'll be like, oh, man, he has liked a lot of those person's photos. But then I just, instead of confronting about it, I just go find somebody else hot. I like all their photos. That's not.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. You're living in a different system. A beacon of health. I'm just kidding. A beacon of healthy, masculine. I'm joking. And then I send him all the fun of my life.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Just so you know. said what do you think of this photo big Austin show like this yeah yeah no okay I'm sorry that happened yeah but I'm sorry that's sad you guys are so cute I'm trying to make it uh I mean I would be know it too
Starting point is 00:37:50 in a weird way it's like there but I really this partner considers you to be very pretty yeah and and it also kind of exposed the guy like now you know he kind of had a thing I guess I just wish there were maybe some answers because
Starting point is 00:38:06 I never got that impression. And so it had me thinking, okay, is there some kind of secret thing that she caught on to in relation to him? Or does she not like me? Or like, does she view me as like, I don't know. It just made the friendship feel insignificant, which was kind of hurtful to me because I take my friendships very seriously. Dude, he knows this. I had an ex at one point who made me go through my Rolodex because I have a really good relationship with a lot of my ex. I have a really good Rolodex.
Starting point is 00:38:35 No, that too. A real hoi-poly of attractive women. No, but she made me go through and, like, call some of these women and be like, I no longer can have a relationship with you. And it was like a huge sticking point. That's insane. That led to like a bunch of- I know who you're talking about. Yeah, that led to a bunch of fights because, like, there were some women where I was like, I'm simply not going to, like, I have way too much time in with this person.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Like, there's someone I grew up with. Like, you have to, like, I'm not going to call one of my exes from. Prince of New Jersey and be like, I know I haven't really seen you in a decade, but we can, just know we'll never see each other again. That's also, that's also a weird predicament because it's like, what if you haven't talked to that person at all in like 10 years? And then now you're just calling them up. The interesting thing was there was one girl in particular that I was really, really close
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Starting point is 00:40:47 They're from New York City. So you know they're good. Fuck in a bar. Hey, I'm walking here. Because we were like, do you know what a bar boyfriend is? It's like kind of like when you're going through your like most intensive part of your study. It's like someone. But this person really helped me.
Starting point is 00:41:05 with my master's degree and we were tight. Like an exam buddy. Right. And our breakup was like so amicable. So she like made me call this person. But this was the only person that I like acquiesced on. And then after the breakup with the latter girl, we connected again. And she was like I totally understood.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Like it sounded like a hostage call. Yes. And I knew. Right. And so like we were able to mend that afterward. But I certainly think that like, you know, went down the road. you know, if this guy comes around, I'm always like,
Starting point is 00:41:39 because I've had situations like this, where I had to be cut off by somebody. Really? What was that combo like? You sex, I con, on you. Wait, you had to be cut off. Well, I've had people, I've had people that I... Be like, we can't be friends.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Well, I've had people that I've had, you know, tax with. Really? Yes. And this one in particular, I remember, and I had sex with him, and then he would get a boyfriend
Starting point is 00:42:03 and then he'd unfollow me. And then he'd refollow me. And I'd be like, oh, he's single again. And then I'd, of course, I'd follow him back. And then he'd unfollow me. No, and then he'd unfollow me. And we go through this whole process. And every time I was like, you know, you don't need to unfollow me.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Like, I'm not going, I respect your, I respect monogamy. Unfollowing is such a statement, you know. It's like, unfollowing somebody on social media. Such a statement. It's an act of war. Such a statement. I don't. I think so.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Okay. No, it's an active war. It's an act of war. It's an act of war. I think it is a declaration of something. Yes, it is. Okay, depending on the depth of the friendship or relationship, you don't really know each other.
Starting point is 00:42:46 It's a declaration of not much. You do really know each other for several. Come on. You know what my reaction is when somebody unfollows me? There are a few unfollows that I've, like, had to justify to friends because we know a lot of adult entertainers. And at one point, my timeline was like too crazy. So I reached out to some of these women and I was like, I'm sorry, I can't look at your butthole anymore.
Starting point is 00:43:10 On Twitter, like peace and love. I have to unfollow. This is too insane. I respect that. I just, it's all mute. I put it on mute because I, because I look at Twitter for my job all the time on stream. Yeah. And I had to literally mass mute every single sex worker friend of mine because, yes, like you said.
Starting point is 00:43:32 There's one girl that I'm like, what's going on? What's going on in the straight of hormones is that it's like, pussy shot. Bottle. I in person had to be like, I'm sorry. I can't do this at 8 a.m. while I'm scrolling Twitter. I can't. Maybe it's the closure of it all more than anything. Like if he messaged me and he was like, hey, this happened.
Starting point is 00:43:51 She saw or found this. He didn't even give you a heads up. Nothing. I just found it. And then he was also confusing because he's like, if there's not, he said there's nothing wrong like between us. If there's nothing wrong between us, why do you need to own? Yeah, what's the issue?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Why can't you look at my gym pigs? And if you can't trust your partner. It's a part of the wellness journey. Now, I understand, like, you know, I'm an influencer, and sometimes I post whatever photos that look like cute or sexy or what happened. Okay, let's say it. What? You're hot.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Let's come on. It's finally, let's say it out loud and proud. But mind you, this was like across the board, all socials. So I was, I don't know. Damn, he took the LinkedIn down. The LinkedIn to you, girl. That's crazy. But maybe I'm overthinking it because, of course, I don't view myself through that lens.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And our friendship, like, it's just a friendship. I don't trust your women's intuition. Yeah, I don't think you're overfithing. Is it unfair that it made me feel a little objectified as like, oh, I am nothing but like a potential. Yes. Yeah. Yes. No, your instinct on that is right because I think you're clocking that in their relationship,
Starting point is 00:45:02 whatever happened between the two of you, like whatever his infatuation was, it had to have been problematic for, to prompt, like either him being like, I can't even look at her gym photos without wanting to go fuck around.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Or, right, like him just being like, I need to do this out of respect to my girlfriend. But what an enigma. I don't know. Or his girlfriend was like, this needs to stop. So you looked at his other unfollow
Starting point is 00:45:28 and he was still following like only fans models and stuff? I didn't scroll through whatever, but I just know he still follows like other girls that he has been friends with like me for a long time. Are they weird? Are they, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:43 He's saying are they caught? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. You're a crazy person. What? Maybe his girl doesn't like me. I'd be willing to bet this was a ghost tag situation. What's a ghost tag?
Starting point is 00:45:56 When someone favorites a photo instead of liking it to keep it on their roller box. That's a crazy. Do guys do that? I don't. No, I've never done that. You never heard of ghost following? There's a, there's a huge...
Starting point is 00:46:06 I mean, I'll like stuff on Twitter to come back to it because I lose it. Okay, so there's a huge kind of like concept where there are, if you ever see like an attractive woman with a massive following, but like maybe there's not many likes. I thought you were about to say it with massive cannons, which is what you do ghost tags for. That Venn diagram overlap is bigger than you think. But no, uh, if you see their follower account and then they're like, like like and comment count, it'll be like disproportionate. It's because people are saving it?
Starting point is 00:46:35 People will follow and just not say or do anything because that, but no, there's ghost following. Ghost following is like ask, ask your friends who are like adult entertainers. I think most people are single. I don't understand what the purpose of. Most like men are horny animals. Oh yes. They don't want people to know they're gooning to something.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So they'll follow it to keep it on there. I don't understand how you goon to book. Mark Twitter. Bro, you used to draw your porn in Turkey. Yeah, dog. Porn was illegal. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He was trying to bed diagram.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So, 14 years old, hormones going crazy. There's some teen Turk right now. Goon to Twitter. I mean, maybe. That's what he did. You jerked off to Twitter when you were back in Turkey. I did do that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Thank you. Because it was literally all the porn sites were banned, and Twitter was the only way where I could see. No, I was in, I was in Tennessee. I don't know what's happening to this country, but I was in Tennessee. I was trying to watch some porn. And I had to fucking show my ID. I was like, this is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:47:38 You showed your ID? No, I didn't show my ID. Dog, you are so horrid. Just hard, dang. Trying to get it to scale. No. No. Christian flipped the car. No, that's catatonic.
Starting point is 00:47:51 No, you are. I didn't do. You are, that is like. I didn't do it. I said, you know what? I'm going to have to go back to the old vault. I don't believe you. I think you didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:48:00 No. I think you scanned your shit before you beat your meat. I don't beat my meat. Poki, that was a fantastic topic. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much for sharing that. I'm curious, do you guys have rules like that in your relationship? What do you think is okay or not?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Because I do agree there is a way of being a, there's a line, you know? If you are spam liking another girl's posts, I understand your girlfriend being bothered by that. I think that's fair. Both of us have had, my boyfriend and I, both of us have had moments where we don't really have rules. in terms of like operating on social media. We very early on was like, hey, like our social media is like what we do and we can find other people attractive
Starting point is 00:48:38 and we can like photos. I think though every once in a while on both sides, some people will be like, we'll be like, oh no, no. And then he'll be like, come on now and I'll be like, all right, sorry, I'll lay off this guy's photos. And I'll be like Christian.
Starting point is 00:48:52 But you guys like talk together, right? Of course we do. No, it does matter. Austin just posts, oh, woo. No, I don't. I don't do that. I don't post that. But sometimes I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:49:05 and I go back, I'm like, Christian, what are you talking about? And I go back, I'm like, whoa, I was really, right? In line every first, you know? But anyway, you know, we all like to, I like to support my, you know, like to support. But we don't really have any boundaries there. I think, you know, it's just like a, hey, just use your common sense.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Don't go crazy, you know. Yeah. So, I mean, I have a lot of, we have a lot of friends who are in, the industry, the industry. And I think for me, the only, like, people that, well, women that I'll ever post, like, you know, looking hot or whatever are, like, my rider dies. You know what I mean? Like, Miss Gina Darling.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Right, right. People that I have time in with. Because I just think that a guy posting anything on, like, a woman's, like, like, like traps or, you know, just fitness picks. can be taken the wrong way. I know. I'm saying all the time. Yeah, like with Pokemon's latest, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:07 going to the gym post, if you write anything underneath that, it has to be like a long, a long paragraph about the... A victory for women's fitness everywhere. A beacon. It has to be about wellness. Shatter the glass ceiling.
Starting point is 00:50:21 It has to be a paragraph of workout advice. In the 13th century, Joan Darry found women's empowerment. And let me just say, I'm not like I'm not clueless to that. He was not someone who did any of the above. I think that's why I was so shod. He never wrote long convoluted posts.
Starting point is 00:50:37 He never did any of the like. I was really like, we just had a good friendship for many a years. Amazing. We actually developed something right here on the podcast that I've seen a lot of people use. I've seen it everywhere. For platonic man congratulating woman on looking hot.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah, without looking horny. And you just say, do it, lady. I like that. You just have to be gay. It's just kind of like a tip of. the hat like a hey
Starting point is 00:51:01 a fine pussy to you you have to you just have to gay it up looking extra thick today ma'am do it lady yeah it's like I love your nails me thinks me finds you very attractive I like that I like that
Starting point is 00:51:16 no you can't get too ready with it you have to be gay like you have to be like I love your nails sis yeah that kind of thought yeah closet sis and lady are good ones Will yeah you've been selling some stuff that's right and it makes me feel good.
Starting point is 00:51:31 That's right. I've been selling my used underpants. What have you? I stink them up good. I work out in them. What? I package them up. Got a little kiss on them.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Send them out. Wow. What platform do you use to sell these on? Shopify. That's right. Stinky, smelly underpants. You know there's a market for that. Oh, big time.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Really? Yeah. People send me messages. They go, Will stink them up. Well, stink them up extra. And you know what's great? No matter what your market is, Shopify's got your back.
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Starting point is 00:52:42 And when they ask who sent you, tell them Will stunk it up good for you. Yeah. Marsh, I hate to make the podcast a little bit more sad, but I have a message. Another horrific topic. No, it's not sad, but it's a feel-good, but also it's not sad. We didn't even talk about the Asian jol- We should talk about the James Charles thing, too. Oh, yeah, I don't even know what I want to talk about the James Charles.
Starting point is 00:53:08 We got to talk about that. James Charles. Fuck. We only have nine minutes. Son of a bitch. How do we only have nine minutes? I know. Okay, we can do an extendo episode if you want and just add ten more minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yeah. Two topics. Marsh. Would you mind pulling up the link that I sent on Instagram? This mess. She's just such a good guest for. I know. The one that I, the most recent one.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And this, this, you have to turn it up. Oh, I, dude. This, this message is for all of us. And this will make you cry. I know. What, what time? I mean, moms. So this, this is a, this is a voicemail that I received.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Sure. From a fear and's universe. I saw. already made me cry a little bit. Yeah. What? This is a 61-year-old game man. You guys give you so much story.
Starting point is 00:54:06 The news just takes me apart every day. You got bad and my cancer, but you have signed, your boyfriend, everybody. You guys bring this to it. So I know it looks like it's like it's not an effect of all, but we'll all be okay. Okay, it's real hard to me to decide, but it's ahead. I don't know, I'm talking to answer, but I just want to let me guys know that I watch all the time. Cuba, you guys are just trying to all my steps, so please don't stop.
Starting point is 00:54:46 You bring me to us, thank you. I'm so cute. Well, I We reached out We texted him And he texted us back So we are going to send He doesn't have
Starting point is 00:55:04 We tried to I was like Can we make a video And he watches us from his TV So we found that he watches us from the TV So I wanted to give a shout out To you I don't want to say your name
Starting point is 00:55:15 Just protect your identity But we love you We support you And we're so happy I love you Do you refer to me as Hassan's boyfriend. No,
Starting point is 00:55:24 he referred to me. My Christian. Yeah. But we're going to send you something nice from the Fear Am podcast. And also, what the hell was I going to say? I lost my turn to thought. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:36 It's not a good time. Just lose my turn to thought. Oh, I wanted to say. You know we should send them? Let's send them. We've had those there forever. Send them your unreleased pillow cover. Sure.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I'll send them that. Yeah. Absolutely. But thank you for watching and supporting the Fear and podcast. And the Fear and. cinematic universe, if you will. And yeah, I just think it's a, you know, I, I set this on stream, but, you know, he said he's a 61-year-old gay man.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And I think it's really, you know, it just made me think, like, gosh, you know, I always say thank you to our gay elders because they put out a lot. They sacrificed a lot for the rights. Obviously, the fight never stops, but the rights for people like me, my life would be completely different if they didn't fight for our equality. So thank you, sir, for your fight. Homosexuality. And your homosexuality.
Starting point is 00:56:30 But yeah, you never know who's watching. So, you know. That was so hard way. Shout out to you, because we wanted to send you a video, but you watch us on your TV. So it's great. Anyway. James Charles. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That is, you went from gay rights to gay wrong. He can do it. Like, that's crazy, Austin. Whoa, what am I? That's a good, like, YouTube chapter. But we have to, we have to talk about this because. Well, we do. We do.
Starting point is 00:57:04 We must. God, damn it is like the T of the week. It's the T of the week. I thought this was AI. I really did. I'm not kidding for a minute. I did too. I was like, there's no way he's saying this.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah. I was like, this is AI. And the way he's, like, moving in. Well, let's play the video. Oh, yeah. It did. It's in Discord. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I sent you a TikTok. fucking Christ. I think you guys should watch it in full and I think maybe clip it for the podcast. Society has had enough of James Charles. All right. You know what's interesting about this?
Starting point is 00:57:36 We'll get into it later. But I think there is a kernel of his sentiment that is smart. But beyond that, the way he handled it, the way he talked about it, the way he dealt with the whole day was so wildly inappropriate. I just can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Like, I can't even believe it. March is getting one-shotted by the capture. I have added T to this, actually. You have added-March is getting one-shotted by the capture. He's doing fucking captions. Yeah, March is a fucking bot. What is how much is going on?
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah, March is a fucking bot. It's obvious. Put the fucking puzzle piece in. What is going on? It's not getting it. Do you think it's, uh, uh, throw it up on incognito? Um, or maybe.
Starting point is 00:58:22 All right. So let me, while we're waiting, the kernel of this that I think is true is, I don't know if you guys have this in your community, but like I'm kind of close with like a lot of people in my community that are struggling because of really tough financial times. And there's things that I've done to try and help a lot of people in my community. But there is an economy of people that use like bots and will cold call you, especially if they know you're a community that takes care of your community. to try and like squeeze funds out.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And I think that really sucks because there's a few times that I've like gone down the road with someone that I think is like a community member and I'm like, wait a minute, this is just a bot that's fishing. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And so I think James getting pissed that the person isn't a community member. I understand that. But again, that should be like a one second, like, oh, they're not a community member, throw it out. You should not go on a... This reaction is a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Let's watch. Yeah. Yeah, this is bad. I know you'll probably never say this, but if you could just take a minute to read, it would really be a lot to me. I'm really struggling right now because Spirit Airlines just found out for bankruptcy
Starting point is 00:59:35 and I haven't lost my job. Here's the go-fund-me, Link. Any donations help. That laugh is crazy sauce. That laugh is crazy. You know what else would help you? Getting another job. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Because in the time that it took you to coffee and paste the same. fuck out message to myself who you don't follow by the way 100 other influencers and celebrities you could have applied for 100 other jobs but you didn't because you're wasting this shit and you're entitled
Starting point is 01:00:04 Is that not crazy? Pause it for a second Here's the problem It could absolutely be a bot However there are real people Who do that? He framed it as a real person
Starting point is 01:00:17 Okay another Another problem is he's belittling losing your job in a mass layoff like that. In a mass layoff, as your fucking James Charles. You're an influencer. What the fuck do you do? So trivial.
Starting point is 01:00:32 So again, this is what I'm saying. The kernel of truth that there is kind of like mass, like kind of just spread, playing on people's heartstrings and kind of belying the fact that you're a fan and lying about it. That is, that's the wrong. But to deal with it like this is like, that's smart. I always like unhinged. Completely. Again, there are.
Starting point is 01:00:58 That's what I thought it was AI. It's not. It's a psychotic. It's crazy. You're absolutely right when you said like there are real people and he framed it as a real person. That's insane. He didn't even frame it as it could have been a bot.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Even if it is a real person, like your response being like, uh, get a job instead of panhandling on the internet, sweetie. Why? Why? But I ever help you. You're not a fan. You don't even follow it. You've never supported me.
Starting point is 01:01:23 This is your first time, Vienna. And you think that I'm going to send you money because you lost your job. Oh, my God. Welcome to the real world, sweetheart. Crazy. I know. Pretty and able body. Okay, pause.
Starting point is 01:01:37 This part coming up is the worst because he categorizes who he might send money to. And his depiction is like someone in the worst. Like there's, it's so, so bad. All right. This is fucking crazy. A lot of other people out here who are trying clearly much harder to make a better life for themselves. Why would I fucking help you? Aside from that, 17,000 people lost their jobs at your airlines.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Why do you think you need to go fund me? I can at least like 1% respect the mentality of closed mouth. Don't get that. It doesn't hurt to try. But honestly, it does hurt to try because now you pissed me off. Okay, I'm not the one. Go find fucking Mr. Reese. This is literally his entire schick.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I'm sure the next YouTube video is literally going to be like, I rehired all 17,000 of the Spirit Airlines employees, and it's going to be the real life. Guys, how is this real? To leave the Spirit Airlines plane gets to be the CEO of the new company. Wait, pause for a second. On the one hand, like... I could see Mr. Bees making a video. Yes, but also on the other hand, like, how are you trying to posture as a more moral person in this circumstance?
Starting point is 01:02:45 And Mr. Beast's, like, exploitative practices of, of, you know, maybe making this hypothetical video still comes across. says like morally better than what the fuck James Charles is doing, which is absolutely nothing. Actually, it would be better if he did absolutely nothing. This is the worst thing he could possibly do. We're just shitting on 17,000 people that lost their fucking jobs. And in a moment of desperation, in a moment of panic, they're like, all right, I'll just ask this fucking influence. I also don't know why he brings that up like 17,000 other people lost their jobs. That doesn't make that one person situation any better.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Like they're all in tough spots. Every time I see somebody that is struggling, my first thought is never to, oh, they could get themselves out of that spot. It is the system in this country has created circumstances that are, the things that they need, they're unattainable in many instances, you know, health care, livable wages. Yeah, of course. Not ideally. We're very fortunate in our positions, but we had to, a lot of things had to go right for us
Starting point is 01:03:51 to be sitting here and be in the position that we're in, you know, great, you know, up our upbringings or what are the circumstances of our upbringings. And there's a tremendous amount of privilege that we had to be here. So like, it's easy for somebody to sit back with millions of dollars and be like, get a fucking job. It's like, bitch, you don't have to live and survive under those circumstances. It worked out for you. You need to have grace regardless.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Of course. Because the fact that you're not in that predicament, even if you were like regular working class, like also struggling. and you saw someone struggling harder than you, you have to realize that you are still in a better position overall than this other person and you could just as easily be in their shoes and if you're fucking James Charles or any influencer,
Starting point is 01:04:33 like we won the lottery. We win the lottery every day, man. What the fuck? Like have a little humility. Jesus Christ. It's un-fucking bearable. I feel like it's like designed in a lab. He needs to read up on maybe why it works out
Starting point is 01:04:49 for certain people and not so much others, and that it's not all correlated to how much you deserve it. Life is not a meritocracy, unfortunately. I know when you make it, you want to think that it is. You want to think,
Starting point is 01:05:00 ah, I did all of this because I worked hard. Everybody works hard. And not everybody makes it as far. Read outliers, read anything that might make you just get another perspective besides your own. Also, unfortunately, just being an influencer, you have to be cognizant of the fact
Starting point is 01:05:19 that you will live in some sort of echo chamber. Because the people that watch you will kind of yes man you. But be mindful of how far, just if anything, how delusional that might get you. Also in your circle. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:33 The people that you surround yourself with are also going to be of a certain level of wealth, especially when you're, you know, that famous, I guess. It is, it's unfuck and bearable to hear this.
Starting point is 01:05:48 But once again, I'm going to repeat. this. There are a lot of chuds who would 100% agree with that sentiment, who are also, unfortunately, also of the working class are in a similar predicament, like moments away from also being fired. And they also have internalized this concept of like meritocracy. James Charles and many other rich people don't want to believe that luck played a tremendous role in the family they were born into, the financial predicaments that they experience and the way that they were able to overcome said hurdles if they did actually,
Starting point is 01:06:21 you know, engage in any sort of upward social mobility. Luck has played a formative role in every part of every single one of our lives. Sure. Wait, you know, everybody worked hard. He's still in the same bed and now it's not at time. It was Pier Airlines and she sent me a message with a go-fund me link asking me to donate. And the video was basically me yelling at the camera up being super upset and frustrated because this person had never followed me, never supported me before.
Starting point is 01:06:45 and it was clear that she had basically copied and pasted this DM to every influencer and celebrity she possibly could asking for a handbook and I called her lazy I said she was stupid and said she should have spent the time that she spent copying and pacing the message applying for jobs instead this did he was fucking stupid it was rude it was obnoxious it was privileged and most importantly it was completely fucking unnecessary when I saw that DM I absolutely had the choice to ignore it and say absolutely nothing at all and move on with my day yeah or give them money couldn't even tell you. I like that option, actually. And I decided instead to make a video about it. And I bashed her and it was obnoxious. And I shamed her for asking for help in a situation where she was clearly really struggling. And this could have been her absolute last resort. I have no idea what was going on in her life. And I should have never assumed that she was just copying and pasting this DM as an easy way out.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I don't know. Wait, I want to add one last thing. Oh, okay. Because Hassan was saying, you know, a lot of. people's success also has to do with luck. I just want to say, again, life's not a meritocracy. It's not just luck. If you just take a little bit of time to look into so many of these success stories that we glorify and idolize and look up to, a lot of people either come from wealth or pretty privilege or maybe are in the right place at the right time, what have you, for things to work out for them. Almost everybody is working hard in some way or other. That's like the core
Starting point is 01:08:12 necessity. Everything else still has to work out for you to reach a certain level of wealth or privilege like this. So tremendous. Yeah. I always think about the teachers that I'm in in Oklahoma when they were doing a wildcat strike a couple years back. And they were telling me about how like they were getting paid, I think at the time, like 30 grand. Oh my God. Yeah. Abysmal. And then outside of that, they had to literally Uber. Like they had to do Uber. They had to do postmates and the reason to do that is so that they could have some like disposable income in the like after the regular work day and then possibly even purchase like materials for their students. Like some of them are doing this just so they could fundraise for their students.
Starting point is 01:08:55 They could get like, you know, coloring books, things like that nature. And and like when I when I think about those people, I'm like, you think Elon Musk is working harder than that fucking teacher in Oklahoma? Of course not. As a matter of fact, Elon Musk is working way as a way. has a way easier go at it. So it blows my fucking mind that there's this like assumption that, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:15 all these royalty people, they must have worked really hard and they must have worked really smart. Sure, they did work hard at some point, I assume, you know, sleepless nights, that sort of thing. But the reality of the matter is, so is the fucking teacher, just like you were saying. So is the guy working to the Amazon distribution facility. Show is my...
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah. Yeah, so is Austin Show. No, every day. Every day, working so hard. I was going to talk about how my mother, my mother was a single mom of three. She worked her ass off And she worked a full-time job
Starting point is 01:09:42 And she took care of those three kids It was before I came along And she worked her ass off She worked harder than I ever have worked Yeah, you know So have some fucking humility Have some decency Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:09:54 Yes, for God's sake And on that note We are going Thank you for watching And thank you for being here Um I don't know Thank you for having me
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Starting point is 01:10:26 to observe and somebody came and gave me a clipboard. And so I started drawing. Okay. Tell me you have the drawing. Tell me you have the drawing. I have the drawing, but not on me. I'll send it to Marsh later.
Starting point is 01:10:39 I have... I know I'm so upset. I left the drawing at home, but I have the draw... I drew an art. I signed it and dated it and everything. And I drew... You drew an art?
Starting point is 01:10:50 I drew because I felt awkward because I was... So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you were like... We were a little turned on. You wanted to see what was going on. Well, yeah. And you wanted to get a closer look.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Yes. So you sat down and you were forced into this Larry David's style situation. I was surrounded by all these people I'm imagining people Real artist Shoulder Yeah an artist is doing
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