Fear& - The Girls & The Gays Finally Outnumber Hasanabi ft. Tana Mongeau | Fear&IceSpice
Episode Date: September 18, 2023This week we have Tana Mongeau on the show to finally take over and outnumber Hasan. This is no longer a straight white male dominated broadcast, this is the face of progress. In all seriousness tho h...uge thanks to Tana for coming on and beings such a dope guest :) Some of todays topics are, Logan paul/Dillon Danis drama, Austin feeling validated beautiful natural and seen, the ice spice dunkin donuts latte and more. 🎉BONUS CONTENT🍾 🌟PATREON - https://www.patreon.com/FearAnd🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS - https://linktr.ee/fearand♥ follow our guest! ♥Tana: https://twitter.com/tanamongeauCancelledPod: @cancelledwithtanamongeau739 ✰ follow Fear&! ✰Hasan: https://twitter.com/HasanthehunWill: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeffQT: https://twitter.com/QTCinderellaAustin: https://twitter.com/AustinontwitterMarche: https://twitter.com/MarcheFear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPod0:00 - Origin of Tana's last name05:25 - Austin Show gay deceptive liar08:00 - Crossing the sex talk threshold11:11 - QT Cinderella into Cutie Cinderella13:04 - Rapid fire Tana answers20:35 - Raya and normie dating app talk28:33 - Taylor Swift Weekly34:09 - Sexual Do's and Don't44:44 - What's your favorite airport47:30 - What does Austin Show do? 50:30 - Dillion Dannis drama57:20 - Cookie Kicks1:00:00 - Ice Spice Dunkin Donuts Latte Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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i think depression makes it better sometimes i'm not gonna lie the more we've been on and we've just been like, so I hate everything.
I'm not kidding you.
Brooke and I are kind of in the same boat, you know what I mean?
But sometimes those spikes of mental illness create amazing content.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Use it.
No, I'm kidding.
We need to.
Yeah, it's a blonde and brunette, too.
It's like the same thing.
Wait, I love that.
We should do a little crossover or something. We be so funny i'm so fucking did you just
ask me to use my connections to bring tana on just so you could fucking do a collab with the
podcast that you like more i'm such a podcast hoe i'm on every podcast this is insane you are
there you are worse to me than your boyfriend. My boyfriend is good to you.
No, he's not.
This morning we were supposed to play basketball.
Am I sensing some jealousy here?
Yes.
No problem.
Yes, I am very jealous that Cutie has a podcast that she likes more.
Her other podcast, which is lame because there's two women.
It's like everybody knows you need one.
No, zero. Get back in the kitchen. But there's a lot of i agree oh my god thank you finally someone's saying it why women shouldn't have microphones it's like you know it's a turkey
or ham on the sandwich like that's that's what we're at this is like this is like 98% of podcasts
so you're saying um tan is here everybody before we get started i need to clarify something
how do you say your last name mojo tana mojo's here i've been butchering your name for like the
last three weeks it's i swear to god i think my parents just like smashed their face on a keyboard
and then that's like what created a mojo i don't yeah i don't that's a cool name it's like a it's
like a villain like a powerpoint what's the origin of it i love that like mojo jojo yeah um the or it's french
it's french yeah obviously when i go to france and everyone gets it and then i come here and
everyone's like tana montague is on my pocket i don't it does seem like there should be a t in
there for some reason you know i completely get it like romeo and juliet like the capulets
what is it i don't know i'm making this up literally do you speak french not at all okay
you're originally from vegas i am originally from vegas i did my research I don't know. I'm making this up. Literally. Do you speak French? Not at all. Okay.
You're originally from Vegas?
I am originally from Vegas.
I did my research.
That is the Paris of America.
Yeah.
It's very,
Vegas is like probably the opposite of Paris.
It makes a lot of sense.
You know,
my demeanor and actions are very Vegas.
You are very Vegas coded.
I am Vegas coded. From the jump.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, but I'm,
I don't know.
I like it now i have a
newfound love for it maybe i shouldn't ask this how old are you 25 maybe i shouldn't ask that i
don't know people get weird people do get fucking weird but my age has been out there my stepbrother
grew up in like vegas vegas yeah henderson henderson vegas he went to green green valley
i went to green valley yeah yeah i dropped out of there but so did he oh my god that's
so funny i feel like that's that's par for the course for vegas though oh yeah they don't want
it's the in the school districts it's the 50th in the world it's absolutely the worst school
district wow in the u.s not the world but that's it wait it's worse than like mississippi yes oh
yeah wait how is that even physically positive that's really bad you have a kid in vegas you
just don't really give a fuck about it.
It's like an accident.
Yeah.
It's like, you know what I mean?
I remember being 10.
Like, why was I born?
Why were you?
Why are you raising me here?
Why was I born?
Okay.
That makes sense.
What do your parents do?
Well, I have, I was like adopted when I was like 12 or 13.
So my like birth parents are just, I don't even know what they do.
I don't even know how to classify.
You've never like tracked them down?
I know.
I mean, when I was like 12 or 13, I lived with them for like, you know, 12 or 13 years.
Am I allowed to ask these questions?
Okay.
I'm an old book.
I talk about it all the time.
Okay.
Um, so my best friend's family kind of took me in and, um, yeah, they, nothing to write
home about what they do.
Just a very normal job.
What do they do?
Like, like work in a casino?
No, I guess that's what everyone thinks about Vegas. Like that um one of them they're actually strippers does stuff in apple like she does like all the tech type of shit and then
dad just he's he's had a million jobs i don't know just a bunch of random shit okay now but
they deal with me and they love me so that's do you like do you like the vegas strip i love it
now okay it took me a while i feel like i moved I moved out here when I was like 15 or 16 pretty much,
like 10 years ago.
Another great place to be as a teenager.
Right.
Again, it explains so much, you know, but it's like Vegas or LA.
You know, two evils.
Had to kind of pick one.
And yeah, eventually I grew a love for it as I got away from it
and I can see why, you know.
I don't
see vegas as the rest of the world how'd you start on youtube well like what what drew you to youtube
i feel have you jumped in with questions so hot no i'm getting ready i'm getting
normally normally we never actually like interview the guests that we have on
because it's like usually a person that we know very well so they just like kind of sit here
yeah well thank you for caring we're so like kind of sit here we don't care about
well thank you for caring
so they kind of sit here
and we just like
chirp at each other
and they just like
kind of sit there
and then they talk about
how like shitty
of an experience
they had
as our guest
Andrea Botez
anyway
set the fucking bar low
for the podcast guest
so
I know people leave
canceled
traumatized
we were all researching
like I was studying
I flew in this morning
You are such a liar no I literally
It is in his nature he's deceptive he's gay
I love a good liar I love a gay liar more than anything
I'm
You're like a gay icon
I love the girls and the gays because like I have
Everybody in my
Like all my gay friends
They've been chirping I've been talking about
Like Tana's coming on the podcast and they're freaking out it's yeah the straights want me dead and then the girls and
the gays yeah i'm sorry um the girls and the gays are that's where it's at that's kind of my
demographic they're so excited you know why do you what why i don't know because i talk about
things i think that interest the girls and the gays. Things of no substance. Drama. Yeah, drama.
Straight man hatred, which I don't want to say in your house.
You know, I don't care. No, no, no.
I say it right in front of them.
Yeah, we say it all the time.
Some are okay.
I don't know you.
Let's shit on straight men.
No, no.
We're straight men are bad.
We're bad.
He's the worst.
He's a closet Taylor Swift fan.
Wait, what?
No, I'm not.
Yes, you are.
I'm staying a solid area with John Mayer.
He's the biggest closet Taylor Swift fan.
My good friend John Mayer.
And then he projects onto me to gossip about Taylor Swift.
But really, he just loves her.
I am a defender of John Mayer.
I was never done anything wrong.
You don't have will to defend you today.
I know.
That's why I feel tense.
I feel tense right now.
Three girls.
I'm playing.
I'm playing.
Yeah.
We like to have a diversity of opinion here and diversity of background.
That's why we have a token gay and a token woman.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I love that for you.
Yeah.
It is true.
But this is not, I should not be the center of attention here.
You are our guest.
Let's get back to.
I'm interested in learning, though.
I can't lie.
I never go on podcasts without knowing anything that happens on them and this is like we were both blind blind yeah like i'm
straight i just jumped into the water and i'm gonna say i think i literally asked uh you to
come on by way of jeff because cutie was like oh i want to have tana on yeah not fucking realizing
that it was just so that she could do a ploy to have you on her favorite podcast. The other one. It wasn't a ploy.
I thought a lot of people compare our podcast because
we are, well we used to talk shit before we got
depressed. We would just like, we would
my podcast name is Wine About It and so we drink
wine and talk shit. Wait, I love that.
I will come whine about everything with you.
We're not relevant enough for you. That's not how
I, that's not how I roll. That's so nice. That's not my vibes.
She's like, I'm on here.
I'm a podcast whore.
I love to go on everyone's podcast.
And if I vibe, I catch a vibe.
And I love to complain.
I love complaining.
Complaining is so fucking therapeutic.
My favorite.
I like complaining more than sex most days.
Really?
Don't you say really?
It's freeing.
It's freeing.
It feels good.
People look at it so negatively.
Do you ever complain about sex?
Of course. Is that your number one thing like it's like the best of both worlds lately
my thing has been like if i have bad sex with someone just being so real with them about it
like getting constructive like you know what i mean like you got dick notes yeah you're just like
exactly it's like you know because i feel like girls just lie about it they suppress it they're
like it was so good give us give the, no, I appreciate that.
I love that.
Give us like what happens most frequently that you think is bad that dudes are doing.
I think it's more so it's just like I, if you're going to like connect with someone
and have sex with them and you feel like they don't maybe care about you enjoying it at all.
Yeah.
It was like, you know, like if it was just five minutes of them like grunting and then
they think that's like normal. It's like you can't go your whole life like what
are big dues for you like definite dues and then don'ts i don't know i i don't think there's like
definite dues or don'ts i just hope there's like you just know when it's wrong yeah yeah you can
just feel when you're not connecting with someone you know and it's like oh my god that was yeah it's like weird seeing you be a girl it's weird seeing you be a girl one of the guys
over here no it's no she's not she's in it i do that though like i go on jeff's podcast and i'm
like no no fuck yeah let's talk about it asanya and fucking you know and then i'm like what am
i saying she's not one of the guys at all she's like a totally now i want to be one of the guys at all. She's like a totally unique. Now I want to be one of the guys. She's a totally unique separate thing.
Called autism.
Yeah, mental illness in general.
He was just saying it was such a cute smile on his face, though.
Maybe he's a little bit low-key.
I love cutie.
Everyone laughed.
So it's like it's not off the table.
No, I am like the annoying little sister that comes in and steals things
and eats all of his snacks and then leaves the house.
No, that's Austin.
You're describing Austin.
No, because he like complains.
I don't complain.
I take what I can get.
Yeah, I complain.
Well, like Hassan does offer me shelter sometimes.
That's really nice.
Yeah.
Do you think it's like a power play though?
He's offering you shelter so that he has control over you?
That is so sociopathic.
Why would I do that?
No, like I've never thought about it.
Or I'm just a nice person.
No, I'm just hard to come by out here, dude. I've never thought about it that way, but like I never thought about it. Or I'm just a nice person. No, I try to come by out here, dude.
I've never thought about it that way, but I'm starting to think that's probably it.
You know, a good person is a unicorn in this city.
I'm starting to think that's probably it.
I think he's trying to take advantage of me.
That's kind of hot though.
He might be into it.
Take advantage of you in what capacity?
I mean, he wants me for my money.
That's hot.
Is that what's going on?
Yeah, totally.
He knows Hasan has been trying to get at me for a long time.
He's not my type.
Oh, my God.
That sucks.
But we love a slow burn.
Are you nicotine gum?
I am a nicotine gum boy.
Talk to me about this.
Are you trying to quit?
No, I already did years ago, but I still chew nicotine gum nonstop.
What is it like?
I'm kind of like debating if I go down and try it if you want.
But what if it like, dude, the things I'll put in my body and then I'm like, what's in it?
Oh, like about nicotine gum.
It's I don't know.
I just got nicotine patches.
The Vegas.
It's good.
It's from the earth.
What's the craziest thing you put in your body?
Oh, that's a horrible question.
Say it like that.
I hate that you said it like that.
You know, I don't even know where to begin.
Okay.
I'd have to get my scroll.
It's a horrible question because it's offensive.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's I'm not, nothing offensive.
Do you think when we do our Wine About It crossover
that you can give me a makeover?
Are you serious right now?
Are you fucking joking?
I thought that was what we were going to do today.
Yeah, but you didn't ask her.
What do you mean makeover?
You're so hot.
Hannah, that's nice of you, but I want to look like you.
No, I'm telling facts.
I told you this.
I told you this.
I tell her over and over she's hot.
She's sitting here like literally no makeup on,
like bright blue eyes, gorgeous Cara Delevingne eyebrows.
The hair is herring.
I told you this.
I'm just being honest.
I want to look like you and Brooke,
and I want to fit in, and I want to be.
I wish Will was here.
I want to do pretty girl shit.
You are a pretty girl,
and you are able to do pretty girl shit whenever you want.
You're pissing me off, Tara.
The dynamic is broken right now.
I wish Will was here.
Why?
Too much girl shit dude fuck
no make that sandwich whore it's not even that i mean don't laugh at it what i was trying i'm
trying to i don't know yeah i'll mask it up a little bit yeah i'm trying to do pretty good
natural and beautiful go ahead yeah whenever you talk about periods he says it's natural and
beautiful look that's crazy it's a natural mine aren't mine fucking aren't dude let me tell i don't even want
to we don't like her this isn't the podcast where we have to talk about my period dude wait what do
you mean she talks about way grosser shit it's a natural human experience it just happened i just
think it's look i just think it's what women are experiencing these things and it's beautiful and
natural that's awesome we were just talking about before you came.
We were just talking about the last time I cried.
And I was just thinking about abortion.
And you cried?
Yeah.
Abortion rights being taken away from women.
Did you knock a bitch up?
That's when I cried.
I cried about it too because your mom didn't get one.
Banger.
Thank you.
You know my mom.
That's really fucked up.
She's like literally.
I still wish she would have gotten one. She's really fucked up. She's like literally. I still wish she would have gotten over.
She's one fucking room over.
That's fucked up.
Are you trying to be like a mean girl right now?
Yeah, I'm cool.
I'm trying to impress Tana.
Okay.
I love it.
I love it.
So.
I'll join you anytime.
You've done many things in the YouTube space.
I don't know most of it.
I know like only the cliff notes.
And they're all horrible.
And they're all horrible.
But you're also friends with Ethan, my co-host on Leftovers.
Oh, you guys have a podcast together?
We do.
Damn, she didn't even fucking know that.
I'm not kidding you.
I'm raw dogging this right now.
I don't know anything about you.
So am I.
This is awesome.
So, which is great.
But yeah, we don't even talk.
Do you know what I do normally
do you know like
what I do as a profession
not at all
you don't even know
that's awesome
wait that is kind of cool
wait you don't know any of us
no
that's so cool
but I'm here
I'm making new friends
hopefully
have you ever watched Twitch
don't even know how to get there
like is it a website
okay
this is awesome
this is like
you're an extremely online person
who's been online on YouTube since you were
like.
I'm not smart enough for Twitch.
You don't have to be smart for Twitch.
But I've decided that my new thing is going to be dating streamers.
Okay.
Woo.
Yeah.
That's cool.
I recommend against that.
Really?
But good to know.
Well, I think it's just like.
How could she date?
You know?
It's a different like little category.
What do you look for?
And I think it's gotta be a certain
type of mental illness
to be like
I'm gonna be live
24-7
and you know what I mean
so it's like
I'm into that
yeah
there's a lot of that
I wanna psychoanalyze
do you want a specific
type of man or
or woman
no I think you're already
through overhost
no I know
or woman right
yeah man or woman
but I'm in my like
celibate era right now
I'm reformed
well then a twitch streamer is the perfect person to date you know what i mean if you if you never want to
fuck they don't go out dude they don't like it's like kind of it's kind of good i've been in my
real grandma era like i've just been inside drinking tea i've been doing crossword puzzles
a lot that's what i that's what that's how i spend my time for the most part. It's nice. I spend it indoors. Um, okay. So you let,
let's talk about some of the,
the cliff notes before we move on.
Cause convention,
fake marriage.
Fucking.
Okay.
Oh yeah.
That's what I was going to say.
So you,
those are the only way you have a stalker.
Those are some of my things.
Oh,
okay.
So I know that I know Tana Khan.
Yeah.
I I've heard of that.
I've heard of that.
That was,
do you guys know what that is? I saw it on Wikipedia. Yeah. Did you look up her Wikipedia? I've heard of that. I've heard of that. That was, do you guys know what that is?
I saw it on Wikipedia.
Yeah.
Did you look up her Wikipedia?
Yeah,
I read the whole thing.
I'm proud of you.
Oh my God.
I read the whole thing.
No,
but like all the gays
that I talked to
love Tana Khan.
Yeah,
because they love,
they love like,
they're like Tana Khan.
Like they love it.
I don't know,
like for as much of a disaster
as everybody said it was,
all the gays are in love with Tana.
They want you to run it back.
Yeah.
I know that's what's crazy
is I meet people all the time.
They're like, do it again.
I'm like, did you see what happened?
But Tana, like, I legit, I would go to.
In your words, what happened?
I held a convention in competition with VidCon.
Yeah.
Fuck Hank Green.
Dude.
And what did he do?
You know, he didn't do anything.
Yeah.
I was more frustrated with, like, I don't know, other people, not Hank Green himself.
But I'm frustrated with Hank Green.
Are you?
Fuck that guy.
Did he also write the books?
Is he that guy?
Him or the brother?
I don't know.
Both of them.
Yeah.
I don't really know.
I was coming at the CEO, Jim Lauderback at the time.
Now we're really cool.
Love Jim Lauderback, seriously.
But yeah, I held the convention.
It was really poorly planned.
How old were you?
I was probably convention. It was really poorly planned. I had, how old were you? I was probably 18.
Okay.
And I had, I just didn't choose good business partners and I learned a lot.
And it's just, let me plan a convention for you.
I don't, everyone thinks I want to run it back.
I just want to, I'm going to hold that L and just move on, you know?
Yeah.
I don't, I don't think I can plan anything.
You know, there was also the, the IDAP saga.
I remember you've talked about this right like
you talked because you saw him like apologize i know recently which is kind of it was unexpected
i i you know i it was so long ago that i just you know i'd moved on what's the idub saga he
oh it's his whole thing to explain we box boxes now right yeah yeah i think he just
from what i see he seems like he's
a completely different person now yeah he is you know what i mean i i did not know him back then
and so am i uh i did not know him back then at all i i only met him through his uh wife uh who
i love she's great and i realized that like uh the perception surrounding him was was not who he
currently was at that time like when i met him he was already like on the pathway to you know
rehabilitate himself i love anyone's growth journey and you know what i mean like and
i've definitely changed as a person so much so so many times. And so like before the public eye, so I have nothing, but like,
I'm rooting for people who ever, you know, want to do that, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
I was debating having him on canceled and kind of on my podcast and doing
that, but it also was just so long ago.
And I feel like I've garnered such a new fan base since then that a lot of
people don't even really know about it.
And yeah, I don't know.
You know, it's just, yeah. You don't want to rehash anything or not even that i just like
you know what i mean like it's when something's been so long what's yeah what's the point yeah
okay i feel that he seems seems like he's doing great yeah on on our growth era i don't know what
happened uh it was a he he ian was before the the boxing guy that you know him as
like who does like charities and stuff was a bit of a bad boy in the youtube era where everybody
was making like hit pieces on one another and he was the guy who like basically made the most
popular version of that called comment wait really yeah he's the guy who
made like leafy well i i would say his politics even back then weren't anywhere near as like
incel he did garner a big incel fan base uh-huh uh but uh it was weird because he would like shit
on keemstar and he did one on on tana i don't i've never watched it but i don't know i think it was like
honestly i was poking the bear too i like came at him on twitter like i when i look back it's like
you you made your bed for that one tana lyon and people want to argue all the semantics of it you
know and i i just don't give a fuck about it now but i just at the time like i don't want to say
it was a great video because it's like you know what i mean but like he did that was that era and he did the damn rolled up to her and and said the
m word like screamed the m word uh when they took a photo together like he and i didn't even know
it was him i didn't i'd never seen himself as a fan and then did that oh which is like real like
fucking 4chan poll incel like so many words i don't know so many things i don't know yeah
well those people
definitely know you and probably hate you as well as myself for sure hate me so like yeah you know
it was it was something along those lines and and you know he he apologized uh to tana personally
in his in his video where he's like apologizing for like the old videos that he had done yeah
something that nobody really asked for too so it was like very cool for him it felt like it was something that he really like wanted to say yeah off his
chest and stuff like that take ownership over yeah but i mean i i wouldn't change that whole
era for anything i think i learned a lot and i was on a path to kind of be on my high horse and
be an entitled brat and it humbled the fuck out of me and it you know okay i needed that i feel like at the time
or another all right so then there was a fake wedding is it i don't even know what that is
like you got married to jake paul or something yeah yeah me either okay so there's so there's
one part of this there's one part of this and we can cut this out if you don't want it to be in it
and it doesn't matter like this isn't live we can cut anything out if you don't want it to be in it and it doesn't matter. Like this isn't live. We can cut anything. I thought we were live.
Oh, you thought we were live?
No.
Fuck no.
That would have been insane.
No, that would have been insane.
This whole setup gives.
We're live.
No, no.
We're working on our set.
Because I am usually live on the other side.
Yeah, no, no.
We can cut it.
No.
So I don't know that you were like married to Jake Paul
or whatever at all.
I just like kind of had heard about it.
But at that time when you were, I think married to Jake Paul or whatever at all. I just like kind of had heard about it. But at that time when you were,
I think dating Jake Paul or,
or married to him or whatever,
you sent me a riot message at 2 AM.
I don't think that's possible because I've been banned from Raya since I was,
this was like long time ago.
Well,
someone by your name sent me a,
Hey,
someone else is fucking me on Raya, I'm pissed
because they won't let me back on.
I don't have it.
How did you get banned from Raya?
I just was using it at an age you're not
supposed to use it at.
And I'll hold that L.
That was not a wise decision.
I think it was around that time.
It was definitely of age
at that time. I now you're the age. I was definitely of age at that time.
I was like 19.
I don't.
I just remember getting a message on Raya from you.
And I was like, I looked it up.
And I was like, the first things that popped up was that you were married to Jake Paul, I think.
I really like, sincerely, I'm telling you, like, I've been banned from Raya since way before Jake.
Maybe someone is.
In that era.
I can't believe this.
So, did you message back?
No.
Why not?
You asshole.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
He thought you were married.
So you're on Raya.
He didn't want to be a homewrecker.
No, I mean, I've been on Raya, yeah.
Have you ever been on a Raya date?
Yeah.
Really?
Like a lot of them?
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
I've been on. Yeah. Really? Like a lot of them? Yeah, yeah, 100%. I got on Raya when it first came out because the girl I was hooking up with at the time
wanted to prove how cool and friends we were and not anything more.
And she was like oh my god the
idea the idea of me because i've definitely done that to a guy and the idea of a guy knowing i'm
doing that is like i'm having a visceral reaction yeah and and like she was like oh don't worry like
i'll get you on raya and i was like okay fine because i had like tried to get on it but i
couldn't because you know the panel i, like said no or some shit.
I don't know.
I think it was like connected to my.
Yeah, no, this was like five, six years ago.
Like when it first came out, when I first came out and they had the panel and like she even showed me like the panel of judges that they have and like how they select like their selection process and stuff.
And she was like, oh, I know the CEO.
Like, I'll get you on it.
And I was like, fuck yeah, let's do it.
Let's give her a call and get me on.
And then, well, it's been such a long time.
I don't know if she still knows the CEO or fucking anything.
I haven't talked to her in years.
Sorry.
Let's call her.
I missed her.
So she got me on it.
And yeah, I've been on many dates off of it.
And it was great. it was great it was
great in the beginning any relationships come from raya
no every raya date i ever went on call them relationships like i've i've uh i've been in
situationships situationships is that like your vibe still are you a big dater i go in and out of phases what's your longest relationship
um my longest relationship was two years it was like one of them it was my first serious my first
serious girlfriend yeah um and and yeah that was that was many many years ago it's beautiful i
don't know why i just started grilling you on your love life.
Yeah, I don't know.
Especially because I rarely ever talk about my private life.
Yeah, so I don't know if that was me on Raya.
I'm also not a big first messenger or wasn't on Raya at least at the time.
But if it was, you know.
My assistant.
Props to the girl for shooting her shot, right?
My assistant Taylor, she's on Raya.
I think genuinely because I think now you don't have to like.
You're downplaying yourself.
You have a whole ass assistant.
Well, I'm like a businesswoman.
But I'm not like.
No, you are.
You get it.
I mean, you are.
You'll get it.
You check out.
Taylor's super hot.
So I think you just have to be like pretty now to get on Raya.
I think that's like, you don't have to be like famous.
You just have to be gorgeous.
Because you can get the friend passes.
Like if you have a friend on Raya that maybe is noteworthy, they can just like, you know.
Oh, that's interesting.
I use that phrase in my real life too.
You know, like that person's a friend pass.
That's funny.
That's a friend pass ass motherfucker.
But she, we were trying to like, do you ever like play Tinder? Or like, let's play Tinder. And then you play the game. It's funny. That's a friend pass ass motherfucker. But she, we were trying to like, do you ever like play Tinder?
Or like, I mean, let's play Tinder.
And then you play the game.
It's fun.
I, or like if you're in a relationship and your friend's on him,
you're still going on there.
You get to play it.
I think it's so fun.
It's like TikTok.
It's fun.
But for NPCs around LA.
I feel like that's a very girl opinion.
Because I feel like for guys, it's like a treacherous space
where you're like it's girl
every girl is gonna say no to me like i feel like that's the the shared uh well not for me i don't
feel that way i was gonna say you don't strike me as fear of rejection no no no no i'm talking
about the average common male experience which i don't think the world's different i what ls well
that's why you have yeah that's why you have me. Yeah, that's why you have me, to talk about gay experiences. Big mistake.
No, Grindr is like, I often say that you can get a blowjob faster than you can do.
Oh my God, you can.
Grindr's insane.
It's insane.
I've been doing this thing where I sit in a room full of straight men and I just go on YouTube and type in the Grindr notification and I play it and I see who turns their head.
Oh.
That's awesome.
That's smart.
What's the Grindr notification?
Wait, that is awesome.
Does it work?
It does work, yeah. I don't think I. What's the Grindr notification? Wait, that is awesome. It works. Does it work? It does work, yeah.
Oh, that's so cool.
I don't think I've ever heard the Grindr notification.
Wait, so like, is this like a YouTube video or do you just do it on your podcast?
No, I just do this in my real life.
I love doing things for just my own entertainment.
Are you surprised by the people that turn their heads?
It is crazy.
I just did it to this like group of rappers in New York and it was funny.
Who popped up?
Who perked up
I'm not gonna you know I didn't come on your day to out yeah is that the grinder notification yeah
that is one of them so you're there's like there's like so far on your straight whistle one
I think whistle is a different app my oh my boss one time went and got a blowjob during lunch break and his phone was going
off like crazy and we were supposed to have a meeting and he was like, I'm going to skip
out the meeting.
We're like, we're supposed to have a meeting over lunch.
And he's like, I just got to go back to my hotel room.
We're at a convention.
I looked down at his phone.
So it was going and I was like, it's fucking Grindr.
I was like, you motherfucker.
You can't like Grindr is not really for dating, huh?
It's more for hookups.
I mean, it's, it is for hookups but like it
can it can get into dating yeah if you like if you have a connection with somebody like a lot
of people are like like grinder's not for hookups or excuse me it's not for dating but like you can
sometimes you'll meet somebody and you'll what app would you use for dating um honestly i started
instagram yeah instagram yeah like instagram because like i i started like getting uh noticed Honestly, I started... Instagram. Yeah, Instagram. Yeah. Like Instagram. Because I started getting noticed on Grindr and Tinder.
The app he uses for dating is the Hasan Abubakar's on twitch.tv.
No, no, no.
I don't date his fans.
But everybody...
He gets...
I don't date his fans, but all queer people watch him.
So it's hard to not...
Ally.
Yeah, exactly.
No, no, no.
I'm an enemy. that's why they watch
oh they hate watch they're like i can fix him i'm like no you can't nope he's a foe he's a home
but on raya you get you get flagged so like taylor was over and i was like let's play raya
yeah and she's like okay and so we go to airstream it to TV. So I do that. It can't do that.
Yeah.
Because there's no screen recording.
Yeah. There's no screen recording allowed.
And technically air stream.
And so we're like,
so then we had to,
I use my phone's camera that we air streamed to the TV.
And then her phone was in between my thighs.
Women in step.
So everyone in the room could watch.
Yeah.
I'm sick.
It's that.
No,
it's why so much ingenuity?
Because it's girls night.
I'm playing Raya.
Speaking of doing girl stuff,
you were supposed to come on the broadcast
for some tier list activities earlier,
but instead you have the fucking sticker on.
Let's talk about Taylor Swift.
What's going on?
We're not talking about it again.
No, don't take it off.
Don't take it off as shame.
No, keep it on.
That's the Grammy Museum.
She's a huge Taylor Swift star. She had a pop-up at the Grammy Museum that got closed today, but it take it off. Don't take it off as shame. No, keep it on. That's the Grammy Museum. She's a huge Taylor Swift fan.
She had a pop-up at the Grammy Museum that got closed today,
but it was way small.
I thought it was way bigger.
Like, she wasn't there.
No, no, no.
It was her outfits from her Speak Now tour.
The Grammy Museum is full of outfits, idiot.
Don't laugh.
They had a Harry Styles outfit.
I wish I could have smelt it.
What? I don't care. Why would you bring up Harry Styles? I was like could have smelt it I don't What?
I don't care
Why would you bring up Harry Styles
I'm gonna be like
Oh okay never mind
Valid
Oh they had a whole Shakira floor
Dedicated to Shakira
Still I don't
And it's like in glass cases on mannequins
Yeah it's cool
So they won't let you smell them
Unfortunately
Unfortunately
Found out
Can't smell them
Was there a lot of Taylor Swift
There's a lot of Swifties
Were there bracelets
Trading and everything
Yeah someone came up to me actually
What? Were they a fan of you or With their bracelet Trading and everything Yeah someone came up to me Actually What
Were they a fan of you
Or
This bracelet
Wow that's an amazing one too
That's a cute one
The bracelet era
Is plaguing me
I leave like every show
On tour
Like up to my elbows
With them now
I love it
Is it like
Did Taylor Swift start that
Fuck no bro
It comes from like
The EDM community
And like
March I got you.
And like that's what I remember being on like ecstasy back in the day.
I have to clear some things up with this.
Clear the air.
This is some.
Okay, listen.
Yes, it started EDM.
They did that.
But the reason.
Raves, plur.
The reason it infiltrated and got spurred into the Taylor Swift community.
This was never before the Heiress Tour.
The Heiress Tour started this because on midnights.
Up the fuck off, queen.
Yeah.
On midnights, she has a song, You're On Your Own Kid,
where she says, make the friendship bracelets,
take the moment and taste it.
And everyone took that line and they're like,
okay, bitch, we're making friendship bracelets.
It's incredible.
Taylor Swift has mind control on white women.
It's crazy.
It is.
She can get them to do the People's Revolution.
That's what i'm waiting
on once once she reads a little bit of mal's little red book she's going to literally she
actually does have so much like so much control over it yes it's crazy it is like it's incredible
yeah if you're if you're like bored if you're like a bored housewife or even if you're like
you know grew up and had a relationship as a white woman,
you love Taylor Swift.
What?
Does Taylor Swift have mind control over you? I really love and respect her career.
I love her music.
I think she's an incredible lyricist.
Even just going to her tour, I've never seen anything like that.
Her stage presence, her ability to bring in the audience.
I agree.
What I say that I don't necessarily know if I'm like,
I think calling myself a Swifty is.
Why are you laughing?
It's okay not to be a Swifty.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's just, I love her.
I love everything about her,
but I know what,
like my assistant is a diehard Swifty.
Like she like would,
do you know what I mean?
Like I feel like I'm not doing it justice.
I'm doing like a,
you know,
am I doing a justice to the Swifty community
by being like,
oh, I'm a Swifty. Like I don't. No, anyone's a Sw know am I doing a justice to the Swifty community by being like I'm a Swifty
like I don't
no anyone's a Swifty
it's a commitment
you fucking grew up
in Nevada
and like
you know
got adopted
by your friend's family
like I have Lil Wayne posters
all over my house
well actually
you had a fucked up
upbringing as well
yeah
there's songs
she okay
everyone's
she's forever
anyone who says like
oh she only has breakup songs
no
like there's a song called
Seven
that's really about like growing up and being fucked up.
And just.
Yeah.
What happened to her that was like fucked up?
As a kid.
She's never got that scarf back, dude.
Yeah.
She did never get that scarf back.
Isn't that.
I mean.
That's an analogy for a virginity.
Good job.
Whoa.
I'm an ally.
That was great.
That was amazing.
Her parents are divorced.
Her mom had cancer.
As soon as she became into fame,
she just got fucked over in fame.
Her whole adolescence was just stolen from her
through the industry.
She's had some shit.
Once I know,
if I were to know more,
then I would be like,
yes, but that's some 50 shit.
I didn't know you were telling me that.
That seems like the Tana Mongeau story.
A lot of parallels.
Yeah.
We'll talk the swifty drama on your podcast.
You bitch.
I can't believe.
She was calling me a bitch.
I kind of liked it.
And then I was like, whoa, wait.
No, I wish I was.
I wish you were.
Okay.
So we covered all that.
We covered the Raya thing.
What else?
The Raya thing. Yeah else the raya thing yeah
no i've just been in my mind uh since uh since you've been thinking about it since 2014 no no
since you were like oh we should have tana on i was like oh i'll ask her about this that's kind
of crazy like you've always just like perceived me as like getting at you on raya yeah i was just
like damn he's been hollering i've been've known he's going to ask this question for weeks.
Yeah.
No, you didn't.
Yeah, you told me.
Yes, you told me.
Were you like flexing it or were you like this weird girl?
No, he just said he was like, yeah, I'm going to ask this question
because I get to him.
I really don't think it was me, but if it sounds like me, that's a card.
I thought it'd be good drama.
That's like my whole life, though.
I'm just like, well, it does sound like me. That's like my whole life though. Like I'm just like,
well,
it does sound like me.
I have really bad memory.
I was hoping you'd have a moment where you would have been like,
Oh,
I had such a big crush on you in 2000.
That'd be fun.
No,
I sadly,
but it turns out you didn't even know who he was until now.
That wouldn't have stopped someone from hitting me up on Raya though.
Maybe he had good.
What were your photos looking like at the time?
I don't remember. They were probably all right i did well for myself i think
on raya in general on dating apps so that's the show
yeah um yeah i don't know why we're talking about this okay we were talking about do's and don'ts
and you kind of were a little evasive you You just were like, oh, it's whatever.
Any do's, any don'ts.
Oh, sexual do's and don'ts.
Yeah.
You want to revisit.
I love it.
You should have asked me on Raya.
Too late.
Yeah, why didn't you respond, asshole?
Well, you thought I was married.
Well, that was one, but I don't even really remember.
But there was a lot of, what do you mean?
There are entire fucking videos on youtube
like of of poke may make fun of me for uh not responding to girls on raya okay okay yeah well
yeah i don't i don't know i really i don't think it was me the timeline wise but who knows
maybe anyway do's and don'ts maybe he's still holding on to it um those matters a long time ago just in general a big don't for me
is like overt insane narcissism like a man who's gonna go through his camera roll in bed with you
like that's a huge like there's dudes who do that okay so you're not a camera roll guy wait what
does that mean wait there's a type there's a type of what the fuck wait wait wait is that type of
guy oh yeah awesome doesn't know because he isn't.
No, I'm not.
I've never gone through my camera roll with somebody.
It's like we just hooked up and why am I looking at photos from your trip to Big Bear three
years ago?
You know what I mean?
Wait, that's a thing?
That's such a thing.
Like, dudes will pull out their phone.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Are you kidding me?
Okay, I pulled out my camera roll before, but not on a hookup.
Okay, okay, okay.
No, no.
A camera roll is an amazing point of reference and obviously an archive of your life. I'm not saying you can never open your camera roll. I'm saying there's a time and a place and a social etiquette. Okay. Okay. Okay. No, no. A camera roll is an amazing point of reference and obviously an archive of
your life.
I'm not saying you can never open your camera.
I'm saying there's a time and a place and a social.
Well,
like,
okay.
Okay.
Well,
I got to come out.
I'm a camera roll guy,
but not like,
but no,
he is,
he is.
No,
no,
no.
But,
but,
but like not on a hookup.
Okay.
Like we're talking like we're dating.
We've been together for like a few different weekends.
Like we're like in our third weekend and then maybe I'll pull out the
camera roll to reference something.
To show all your shirtless photos. Yeah. As long as. To show all your shirtless photos yeah as long as you show all your shirtless photos no no i would never show them shirtless pictures as long as it makes sense
you know i there's there's a line there there's an area there so you had sex with someone and
they literally were just like this is more common than you think you like i'm yo tana check this
this is more common than you like. How? I've been asking.
Dude, I was gay for a second.
I was like, I can't see another camera roll.
I can't see another fucking.
That was like all the dudes you were fucking were doing this?
No, I don't know, dude.
What the fuck?
But you know what I am realizing?
But they were like pretty boys or something, right?
Like, I don't understand.
Would they show pictures of themselves?
Like, I need to make sure I'm not one of these guys.
Yeah, like, I don't understand.
I don't show pictures of myself. Why would I do that? sure I'm not one of these guys. Yeah, like, I don't understand. I don't show pictures of myself.
Why would I do that?
Austin, you and my brother, when we were in Japan,
went to breakfast multiple times.
You made him change his seat every single time
so you could not even look outside
at the beautiful scenery of Tokyo at the Four Seasons,
but instead, because the light was...
Well, I wasn't staying there. He was.
Because the light was actually hitting his face
so he could take Snapchat pictures to send to
Japanese twinks. Honestly, that's
valid. Thank you, Tana.
You are the most camera roll guy ever.
That's poetry right there.
That's what I'm saying. Poetry.
It was completely dark.
Poetry?
I was trying to take photos and it was dark, so I had to get where the lighting was. That's what I'm saying. Like, I can't be. Poetry. It was completely dark. Poetry? Yeah, it's like poetic, but.
I was trying to take photos and it was dark.
And so I had to get where the lighting was.
You know what I mean?
No, yeah.
It's unacceptable.
Okay, but to be clear, Tana,
I don't want you to think I'm one of these guys
that's like sitting there like, oh yeah, check it out.
I don't think that.
It's a romantic.
Even if I did, you know, you're not swinging for my team.
True.
So if you want to go do that.
True.
Like, I'm not like, yo, check out.
I'm not a flex type of guy.
I don't like flex.
But I had this out-of-body
experience the other day where I saw this tiktok and this girl was like I get the biggest ick when
a guy's leaving Starbucks and he has a frappuccino it's just like as a and I I was like damn like
I'm one of these girls like this is so fucking embarrassing like I think I just have to retire
the whole ick of it all and do's and don'ts of it all because it's like you know what I mean like I
do a lot wait the girl has an ick when guy drinks a frappe but you know what the fuck why
there's lots of icks in the world but i just think societally what are your icks get everybody give
me your icks but i'm trying to i'm trying to stop being i know you're trying to stop being type of
girl because it's like i do the worst shit we don't do any of that we don't do any of the basic
stuff what's your ick give me your i don't remember give me an egg an egg i'm trying to think my major one was um watching a
guy chase a ping pong ball and then that's that's awesome that's so but that's good that's funny
it's like i'll be like putting on my shoes with like no socks or something and it's like
where do you have the room to like you know that was a bad analogy i wear socks but you get what
i'm saying so she's saying nobody's perfect.
I'm wearing socks right now.
And you've got to work it.
Okay.
But if you saw, who's the sexiest man that you know?
Other than Jeff, who is the sexiest man that I know?
Is he?
Yeah.
I've gotten so close to him that I like.
I'm going to take it back.
I'm going to take it back.
No, I don't want him to get it.
He's going to be too confident.
He's a sex god.
I know.
I know. It's a fucking piece of shit anyway it's gotten to the point where we're so close that
like i his his sex appeal no longer affects it doesn't affect you well it is never affected
we see each other in so many lights where it's like oh my god i love jeff um yeah but uh wearing
these crazy no-show socks the other day and i I was like, I can't look at you.
He gives me shit because I wear.
Yeah, no-show socks are nasty.
I just.
What are you doing?
There's not enough sock in ratio to foot.
He was wearing no-show socks?
He was wearing.
That he got on the airplane and he put on, and I was like tucking them into his shoe,
and I was like, oh, my God, we are just too close.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
It sucks.
What was he wearing?
Loafers or something?
What the fuck?
What was he wearing?
No-show socks.
No, like these little sneakers.
I love him.
See, this is how people look at you when you fucking do your no-show sock shit.
But also like.
I mean, you can kind of see.
And this is a crazy take for me, but like he is gay.
Yeah, thank you.
So he's one of the girls.
So he could wear a no-show sock.
It was like Jeff like, you know.
I could show a little ankle.
I could even put a tattoo on my arm.
No.
Yeah?
No.
It's unacceptable.
Are you into him, and that's why?
Yeah, that's why.
I want to have gay sex with him.
You fucking nailed it.
What did I tell you, Tam?
Now you're starting to see it.
Why do you have to say gay sex?
Why not just sex?
I think it's funnier.
I told you I'm homophobic.
Well, he's homophobic, yeah.
And I've always said that about you.
But the funny thing is, he also does say that. He's like's not gay sex it's just sex i'm like no it's gay sex
he truly doesn't see sometimes i'm like having sex with a guy and i'm like this is gay sex
yeah is that mean it's like really good or like no that's but
well like it depends on who you're talking to because if i'm like this is gay sex i'm like yeah
fuck yeah yeah i don't i just elaborating i think would do me an injustice so, this is gay sex, I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah. I'm just elaborating, I think, would do me an injustice.
So, like, he is gay and, like, he just doesn't know how to.
Maybe.
There is that, like, level of sex.
Have you ever had sex with a guy who was, like, straight and then you're like, I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's like, what?
Like, yeah.
This is Cutie's forte.
Like, why were you hyper-focused on only my asshole the whole time?
You know, like, it's like, um.
But I don't, no, no shade.
Wait, really?
I just opened Pandora's box of questions.
Maybe he's just the ass man.
He just loves ass.
But not like an ass man.
No, sometimes you're like, they're gay.
Really?
They're just gay.
It's like, I might as well have just been, like, just a butthole.
Yeah.
Wait, so that's a red flag right there.
It's not a red flag.
It's a prideole. Yeah. Wait, so that's a red flag right there. It's not a red flag. It's a pride flag.
See, everybody knew,
I think some people knew I was gay because when I was...
Because...
Because...
When people would ask me what
my favorite part of a woman was, I would
say the navel. I don't think that's... You've said this before. I don't think that ask me what my favorite part of a woman was. I would describe, I would say the navel.
I don't think that's,
you've said this before.
I don't think that's gay,
but a lot of,
a lot of women.
I don't think that's gay.
It's just stupid as hell.
It's just like,
no.
Cause that,
I don't know from like,
I don't really like you.
Like people probably,
the type of thing that like the way you describe that in a setting would not like,
uh,
would not hit my gaydar at all.
I would just think like, you're trying to be a pussy. Like, Oh, I love a woman's face like uh would not hit my gaydar at all i would just think
like you're trying to be a pussy like oh i love a woman's face i'm not no i think i like a belly
button more than most people too yeah yeah see i think it's an important part it's a it's it's a
good it can be a part that you look at and go like damn so if you were the guy who's hyper focused
on your belly button the whole time you wouldn't i wouldn't think he was that wouldn't be a pride flag no yeah i would just be like whoa
so then it's like if i liked him i would probably play into it i'd be like putting like bedazzles
so wait dudes are really into anal like that like exclusively that's very weird you meet the
weirdest dudes i do have a lot of weird dudes yeah i know a lot
of weird dudes i definitely had just an era of my life where i felt like i was attracting relation
you know peculiar men like youtube yeah you know youtube does that i feel like yeah and just being
in la just my choices and people i'm i'm i'm rebranding i'm um i'm reformed from all of that
activity as of late but What do you do now?
Nothing.
I'm fucking, I'm celibate as fuck.
Okay.
Beautiful.
No more going to hide.
No more age group.
I'm not kidding you.
That was a great analogy because sincerely, it's the type of people.
I don't even know what nightclubs are popping anymore.
He won't go.
He can't last in the, I try to get him into the Abbey or something.
I'm really, yeah, WeHo scares the shit out of me why because i always get roofied there oh i haven't been in
a long time and the gays roofie me that's the thing that i'm like so fucked up what was your
goal they're like they're never trying to fuck you yeah like you know what i mean they're just
trying to fuck with you what are they doing i think that they just think i'm more fun than i am
you know they're like she would love this ghb yeah
it's been a long time since i've been to weho i yeah i don't really go out anymore
you know i'm where's the lat where's the last nightclub you went to i'm like asking because
i like to be like in the living vicariously no i could just live if i wanted to i just don't want
to because i hate it my dream nightclub as of late is like a Gelson's grocery store at like 7.30 p.m.
But I was just in New York for Fashion Week,
so I had to attend some events for work that were like at the clubs there.
I went to like Marquee in New York and stuff.
But it was scaring me.
That still exists?
Yeah, like it was just crazy.
It's too much for me.
And it's so weird because I'm i'm 25 and i i feel 80 and
i go to these like nightclub settings now and i'm like this is packed why do i want to yell over
people's voices like this it's just it's because you've been in la for 10 years yeah that's why
i feel 80 but it's like and then i see all these like 30 year old influencer men like out at the
clubs and it's just like i think it's aick. I think that's also because they haven't like popped off until later in their lives or something.
Like I've been living here for 10 years.
I did all of that when I was like in my early 20s and it was a lot of fun.
Yeah, I went out a lot.
So did you like kind of blow up when you were younger?
No.
I was just here.
You know what I mean?
Where are you from?
I'm from Turkey.
I grew up in Istanbul.
Really?
It's my favorite airport
really
such a good airport
isn't it
strange
I love planes
is it not a great airport
it's fine
it's not like
what do you mean it's fine
even Casey Neistat
said that at some point
it's a nice airport
for sure
especially if you're used
to American airports
it's just a great airport
what's your favorite airline
what's my favorite airline
yeah
I think JetBlue
or Delta oh Delta Delta's think JetBlue or Delta.
Oh, Delta.
Delta is sexy.
JetBlue is all right.
I'm a plane nerd, so I love planes.
No, JetBlue is good.
No.
I like Louisiana's airport because they have these plastic things on the toilet, and when
you flush, it rotates and covers you.
I know exactly what you're talking about, and I love those as well.
Those are so sick.
Maybe they should get some environmentally friendly ones.
But no one talks about those enough.
I know. You know, if we have to forsake a few the Portland airport. But no one talks about those enough. I know.
You know, if we have to forsake a few turtles for those, like, I'm kidding.
That was a joke.
I like the Portland airport because the Portland airport is, like, big enough.
But it's still.
He likes the Portland.
He likes my airport.
I said I like the Portland airport because the Portland airport's big, but it still has
the vibes of, like, a local airport, like a tiny airport.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it's an international airport.
Yeah, it is.
That's my hometown.
I don't know.
That's what I mean.
Like,
I like it because like,
it still has like the vibes of a,
like I feel like I'm in fucking Fargo
when I go to,
when I'm ever in Portland airport,
I feel like I'm in that,
in the movie
or in the TV show Fargo.
It's like very,
it's got like a very Midwest aesthetic, uh aesthetic even though it's not it's
not even close have you been to portland i've been to portland there's fucking carpet and and
it's like i really like portland did you did your tour go there sad town it is everyone's sad in
portland and i i feel at home it's depressing but i like a depressing place because it's they're
owning it they're wrong in the depression they're like we're all fucking sad it's fucking raining yeah and it's just something about that feels like a hug it's cozy it's cozy
yeah it's cozy i like portland yeah did your tour go there not yet um i've toured there before in
the past you should yeah i've done some shows there and it's really fun people you know that
place voodoo donuts yes people always bring me the penis yes oh yeah my shows when i do them there
so i i've never been to Portland.
I've only been to the airport.
Really?
You won't come visit me.
I refuse to go.
Oh, you're from Portland.
Yeah, I'm from Portland.
Are you sad?
I'm not sad.
No, because I come to LA every week.
You're a little sad.
Yeah.
You think I'm sad?
No, you want to.
I don't think he's sad.
You've talked about it.
I don't think he's sad at all.
If there's one person I know that rarely ever gets sad, it's him.
Really? You are kind of it's him. Really?
You're so sweet.
Thank you.
He works like
eight hours a month. There's no way
he could be sad. I work all the time.
I love someone who does nothing.
I have a lot of friends like that where
I live vicariously through them.
Never had a real problem in their life. A lot of people don't know what I do, but I do a lot of friends like that where I'm just like I live vicariously through them Yeah, I don't know like never had a real problem in their life
Yeah, a lot of people don't know what I do, but like I I I do a lot, you know
You do well, I do a lot a lot of it's secret
A lot of it's secret. I don't tell exactly like you're fucking working at Langley. Come on
Yeah, oh, yeah, totally he goes to Starbucks sits there with a laptop and he's not even doing anything.
But what matters is if you think you're doing something.
I feel productive, right?
I go to my local Starbucks and I pull up my laptop.
This is why the gays love you.
Right?
One, because you're messy.
And two, because you're.
And I just live in hyper delusion and I'm down to feed everyone else.
Yeah, you're like, oh, no, it's great.
You don't have to have a job.
Thank you.
Tana, this is the most validation.
I'm going to die anyways.
Yeah.
This is the most validation I've ever had on this podcast.
I'm happy to do that for you.
Yeah, usually Hassan and Will.
Cutie's my ally over here, but not really.
I try to be really hard to agree with sometimes.
Yeah.
Do you think it's because he's gay?
Yeah.
No.
Probably.
Yeah, I don't agree with his lifestyle at all.
I have a hard time with it.
That's why I don't go to Portland.
Too liberal.
I hate that. When you're on tour, how many live people come? I have a hard time with it That's why I don't go to Portland Too liberal Hate that
When you're on tour
How many
Like
Live people come?
I loved live
Like the live stuff
Like the cattle I'm herding
It kind of is the vibes honestly
That everyone's feral
That comes to our shows
It's usually like a thousand
No more than two thousand ever
So somewhere like
Under there per shows
And we do smaller shows
And we do theaters
It just depends.
Has anyone ever tried to sleep with you?
I'm really lucky that my fan base is so girl coded.
Yeah.
So it's like usually the only like men that are coming to my shows are boyfriends that
got dragged by their girlfriends.
And it's so funny to see because they are just fucking miserable to be there.
They know they're getting the best blowjob ever that night.
What do you guys talk about that's so just something
that guys don't want to listen to?
That's a really great question.
It's the same as wine.
I mean, the problem with Wine About It is it's a podcast
made from a Twitch audience, which is all male.
So they see two female Twitch streamers,
and they're like, oh, we're going to go over here.
And then they start listening to us bitch and Twitch streamers and they're like, oh, we're going to go over here. And then they start listening to us
bitch and moan
and they're like,
oh.
And so we've had to grow
our female audience
like organically.
And so it's been really weird
to like see that
because like a lot of the guys.
It's a fifth column style
infiltration of other podcasts.
So she can grow their female audience.
You wanted me here.
Honestly, same, same, same.
Yeah.
I mean,
I feel like the dynamic of my podcast,
I always relate it to the girls waking up after a night out in like college
and then they all get on one girl's bed and they unpack what happened that night.
I feel like our podcast kind of possesses that dynamic very much.
Well, what do you talk about if you don't go out much anymore?
There's still other stuff happening in her orbit.
It is harder.
For a long time i
felt pressure to kind of do a lot more so that i would create something chaos to talk about but
i've kind of noticed that you know chaos follows me no matter what so it's not you know our dating
lives our lives are you know right now we both had to have some weird stalker situations work
and i so we kind of unpack that today just random shit really i have a a thing
that's like randomly happening in your periphery as well uh that i want to hear your uh your takes
on what is his name dylan danis what was what do you what's your take what's dylan is it danis i
always thought it was danis i don't fucking know dylan danis who is this i don't fucking know i
don't follow any of the shit oh is that the guy that's obsessed with... He's fighting Logan Paul.
Full disclosure, for those of you at home who don't know anything about this because you watch me and I never cover shit like this for the most part, Logan Paul...
It's weird how there's YouTube drama and Twitch drama.
There's like...
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know much about the Twitch drama.
I don't really cover Twitch drama that much either anymore.
But Logan Paul is Logan Paul.
Not exactly the biggest fan of him, even though I do love Mike.
That's funny.
He's supposed to.
How do you get yourself to love Mike and not Logan?
I'm kidding.
I love Mike.
I just love to give him a hard time.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, we're not going to talk about that.
I've talked about that way too much, and he's been on the pod before twice. Logan Paul is facing off and fighting Dylan Danis,
who is a Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy
who was, I think, Conor McGregor's grapple coach,
and they were supposed to fight as the undercard
underneath the KSI fight.
KSI is Logan Paul's business partner on Prime,
and what ended up happening uh over the
course of this past month or so was that dylan danis decided to uh instead of shit talk logan
he just decided to slut shame logan's uh fiance yeah what's her name nina yeah nina's such a like
sweet amazing girl so yeah i hate to see it. I really do.
And, like, really gruesome shit.
And every day.
Possibly revenge porn, if I'm not mistaken.
I've gotten dragged into it a couple times now,
like where he'll say something about me.
And I've been treading the water lightly because I just,
I don't need the Pandora's box of my life opened really by Dylan Dennis, I think.
I think part of that is also because it seems like he's doing the Andrew Tate thing.
Yeah.
Where he's like, I'm a fighter guy and also love doing misogyny.
Like, you know.
And there is a.
There's a huge audience for that.
There's a huge audience for that.
This dude, I feel like everything I learned about him was against my will.
I did not want to learn anything about this guy.
I know.
That's how people feel about me.
But I fucking.
Well, that's how people feel about me but i fucking well that's how people feel about me too but um but i fucking learned
about all this shit because like it kept coming up on my fucking timeline over and over again on
goddamn twitter because now it's like more of a shit all these women just you know making sandwiches
and then yeah and that's the kind of misogyny i do like yeah right i mean there's there's tasteful
yeah tasteful misogyny.
I didn't want to say it because it'd get clipped.
Yeah.
And then like these these fucking gremlins are like, yeah, like Logan is being destroyed.
Like you're destroying him.
And it's like, I mean, all he's done is just like put photos of her that she took with
like other people.
It's also like Leonardo DiCaprio and shit.
Like, I know if that happened to me, it would be some lizard los angeles with like face tattoos and no career so at least it's
leonardo dicaprio um i mean all of that is unfortunately in the name of the fighting
game and it you know it's you could classify where does the line draw where it's good fight
promo or it's too far i think no women and children's like the mafia you know even even they drew a line at that yeah but that's fair but yeah i think that there's like uh
there's a lot of hostility towards uh women and there's a lot of hostility towards men from what
i would categorize as as brad fems or fem cells uh not to the same degree of course and obviously the systemic the systemic implications
are not the same either however it's always like everything devolves into gender wars
online i feel like especially on tiktok too and certainly on twitter and at a certain point it's
just like you know dudes are just kind of using this as a way to like become more famous i mean he went hard because
it's working thousand yeah you went for like 60 000 for like a million that's what's annoying
is it's like such a rinse and repeat thing like i'm a guy with no talent so i'm just gonna start
shitting on like women or gays or whatever to get more clicks and then all of a sudden i'm making
money off of it and it's like oh my god how exhausting i mean it's interesting because like logan paul is such a target rich environment to shit on like if he
just kind of shit on logan paul i would have been i would have been there for it you know what i
mean i don't fucking know anything about dylan danis i think people love to see logan in a like
weak light or like in a you know some people love to like see this i i mean i can't lie i can't wait
to see this fight yeah When's the fight?
That's the funny thing. All this promo
and none of us know when it is. Yeah, that's really
fair. But we're going to find out though.
Yeah, we're going to watch it.
You know, it's interesting to see.
Yeah, I'm going to watch it. I'm invested
now.
You can keep going.
Oh, yeah. Well, I thought
you were figuring out when the fight was.
How many pieces do you chew a day, you think?
I have no fucking clue.
More than 20?
Probably.
Is that like a 300 pack?
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's Costco.
Oh, it's Walgreens.
October 14th.
Oh, my God.
That's so long.
There's another month of him posting pictures of his girlfriend.
Is it every day?
Yeah.
No.
Well, she also got a restraining
order on him successfully as a matter of fact and and uh apparently like her snapchat might
have been hacked and like that's where he's getting some of the an ick is when guys use
the doggy snapchat filter get out of my life so good oh yeah i think just snapchat in general
you look stupid as hell oh i can't like if a Like if a guy's like, what's your Snapchat?
I didn't like.
OK, but like in I have to do that to like validate what somebody looks like on Grindr.
I understand.
Well, Grindr and Snapchat kind of go hand in hand.
Stop defending yourself.
Grindr and Snapchat go hand in hand.
It's all hookup culture.
You won't have the same X as us.
Oh, I know.
But I was just, you know, I was just seeing like what what do you think about that?
You keep wanting passes from us. I'm trying know. But I was just seeing like, what do you think about that? You just keep wanting passes from us?
It's hookup culture.
We think you're cool.
Tana is validating me today.
I need to get all I can.
I think Snapchat's a part of, yeah, hookup culture.
And, you know, if you're just trying to hook up with someone, it works.
So I'm not.
Like, I'm ready for marriage.
I really am.
She's ready to trade her dowry.
You're ready to settle down.
Okay.
Trad wife.
Where are you looking? Trad wife. what does that mean traditional wife haven't you seen the
propaganda on like tiktok of them like all these men want us to go to the workforce but like harness
your female energy and stay home and be a caretaker and and make cookies and bake and so
it's what you're made for sweet i'm like i know i've been watching it i'm kind of like wait see
like i'm kind of down for misogyny sometimes you know what i mean that's what you're made for. People make it so sweet. I know. I've been watching it and I'm kind of like wait. See like I'm kind of down for misogyny
sometimes. You know what I mean?
You go build that shit.
I do want to harness my female energy. You go build that shit.
I will make this sandwich.
But like I want to eat it too. I don't want to
give it to somebody. That's my problem.
You know what I mean? You're a feeder.
You're a feeder.
With cookies? Yeah.
I'm in a cookie kick right now i'm just a
i used to be a pastry chef what do you oh my god what do you like what's the brand that you're
okay it's not about the brand it's about just a good like oh just i don't anywhere there's
gonna be there's gotta be like one that's like consistent chocolate chunk collab like oh i love
a little sea salt in there like that i like hard like hard cookies. Like, I want them, I want it to be like hockey puck status.
You don't like fucking chewy?
No, like chewy Chips Ahoy.
No, ew, Chips Ahoy is disgusting.
I love chewy cookies.
Chips Ahoy in general is nasty because, like, I feel like there's, like, a chemical taste to it.
I love, like, an OG, like an original Chips Ahoy.
The crunchy Chips Ahoy?
That's the biggest thing.
I hate, yeah, I hate crunchy.
Chewy over crunchy any day.
They must be Pumping those
Chips ahoy
With a lot of chemicals
Because I've had
Some in my pantry
With the bag open
For like three weeks
And they're still chewy
And I kind of
Put my hand in there
Every once in a while
And they're still chewy
I just don't fuck with
That Laffy Taffy texture
Yeah
No I like chewy
I like chewy cookies
But like not chips ahoy
Like real
I want that shit to be
Like homemade cookies
Yeah
Wait even homemade cookies
You like hard Yeah Like I set them out And I like wait shit to be like homemade cookies. Yeah. Even homemade cookies you like hard?
Yeah.
Like I set them out and I like wait for them to like.
That's interesting.
How can you call yourself a cookie slut when you have such bad taste in cookies?
That's usually how it goes for me, you know?
That's nasty.
Like I'm just repping my horrible taste.
Like what about crumble or some shit?
You know what I mean?
I've never had a crumble cookie.
Those things are insane.
I'm an LA influencer.
You won't like crumble.
Get your priorities straight.
They're too soft.
You won't like it. You have to harden it. You won't like it. They're too soft you won't like it you have to harden it you won't like it they're huge though for like a day yeah they are
they're crazy they'll still be soft they're crazy because they literally like they sell it as uh
like one cookie for like 20 or something no i'm in the wrong business yeah do you want the crumble
cookie drama yeah i know that are you gonna say calories? Is that what you're going to? No, bitch. Oh, what's the other drama?
I'm going to talk about the drama.
What's the other drama?
So there's this cookie company called Penguin Brothers in Logan, Utah.
Uh-oh.
And then Crumble started their cookie company.
Don't tell Dylan Danis.
Also in Logan, Utah.
Yeah.
And they started, Crumble essentially stole all the Penguin Brothers recipes.
But then they got more famous.
How did they steal the recipe?
It's chocolate chip cookie.
They had an ex-employee from like the Penguin Brothers.
And for the record, it might not be called Penguin Brothers.
Yeah, that's a bad name.
It was something.
It was a rogue thing to make up.
It was something.
It was something.
But they stole somebody, another cookie company's recipe.
And that cookie company kind of sucks.
And Crumble went crazy, mostly because their marketing,
because their recipes were nearly identical, because they yoinked them.
But then they pretended like they didn't.
Those cookies are fucking nuts, though.
They're like 700 calories per cookie.
Yeah, it's insane.
No way.
Yeah, it's nuts.
It's like this big.
But the entire fucking cookie is like a whole ass meal,
which leads me to my
the subject that I wanted to discuss
the new ice spice latte
on Dunkin Donuts.
Y'all seen this shit?
Yeah, it's crazy.
Wait, ice spice like the singer?
Yes.
Has a latte?
Ice spice did a collab with Dunkin.
And the recipe got leaked.
Be famous enough to be something
that I can drink.
He'll never collab with the corporation.
Yeah, I'll never do it.
I could do it now.
It'd be like no corporation is interested in the free Hassan Piper drink.
Oh, I could do it now.
I could totally do it.
There's been corporations that have-
Oh, yeah.
They'll make the Hassan Gatorade.
They want-
Don't worry about it.
No, not Gatorade, but I did-
Hassan Prime.
Yeah, there was, for the longest time there was uh
uh what's I think it's factor like one of those like pre uh meals yeah they wanted to do a collab
you don't collab with anyone I very rarely do he only does like video game sponsors pretty much
really good yeah I I usually say I'll take any dollar the only sponsor I was actually going to
do that I was like kind of stoked on stoked on, your boyfriend took from me.
Crocs.
He does.
Yeah, but he reps.
Yeah, they sent these to me.
Oh, you're wearing them?
Which ones?
Pieces of shit.
Ludwig got the freaking strap ones.
I'm not even going to show it, actually.
I shouldn't even show it.
Those assholes.
Yeah, we were, I was supposed to do this like be like a brand ambassador this whole thing
and they just like went quiet after a while and i kept hitting on my manager what the fuck's going
on with this crock shit what's happening and apparently it was like this is how it always
works usually there's like a fan in the marketing team that like really pushes for me and then like
when it goes up to the higher level execs and they google me and the first thing they see is like
america deserve 9-11 and they're like what the first thing they see is like America deserve 9-11.
And they're like, what the fuck are you doing?
You can't work with this fucking guy.
Yeah.
You could have like some Twin Towers Crocs.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Exactly.
Each Croc is a tower.
It would actually sell really well too. And think about all the little gibbets.
The gibbets could be the planes.
Yeah.
That's a million dollar idea right there.
See, there you go.
Crocs, hit my line.
I'm still down to do it.
All right, show this TikTok.
This shit is bananas, okay?
B-A-N-A-N-A-S.
It's like, it's very, it frustrated me watching this.
My friends, this is a pumpkin swirl frozen coffee.
Who the thought it was a good idea to put this on the menu because it's a drink.
Has 185 grams of sugar in here.
How much is it?
185 grams.
She's gonna show.
It's 46 teaspoons of sugar.
Oh my God. To give you
another perspective,
the amount of sugar in there is equal to 14 glazed donuts.
I would much rather eat the donuts.
What? What does it taste like?
There's no pumpkin in here.
It's artificial flavors.
There's 12 mentions of sugar in high fructose corn syrup in there.
Is he in the Dunkin' Donuts?
There's 930 calories.
That's the part where the closet.
930 calories.
Holy shit.
That is literally for the average like male American's like diet is like 2000 calories.
Yeah, that's crazy.
But this is going to sell so well because of the...
Everybody's going to buy it.
We're going to buy spicy vinyls.
This is happening.
Two-thirds of us are already type 2 diabetic.
Dude, this is going to become the new one-chip challenge.
They're going to be like, how many of these can you drink before you die?
Yeah, literally.
I just like...
910 calories.
I want to try it.
This is the type of...
See, it worked.
Their marketing worked. This is the type of marketing work.
This is like you give this to like a like a French adult and they die immediately.
They drink that and they're dead.
They perish.
That is the diabetes pack for sure.
Because like I did.
Oh, God, it's so it's like frustrating because it has no dietary fiber in it.
Even it's supposed to have like crumpled up crushed donuts or something.
This is like really what stirs your soup, huh?
Grins your gears, keeps you up at night. it's just like it was very sorry you're going
through this when i found out about it it pissed me off there's so many better ways to consume
god gives his toughest battles to his children thank you yeah i'm the i'm the muja hadin for
calories exactly anyway that's what donuts into the drink yeah yeah so it sounds but no one's getting that
thinking like god this is my green juice of the day i think everyone knows it's that type 2 diabetes
no i think it should be illegal like i literally think that the the marketing executive that came
out with that should be control us yeah 100 yeah that person should go to jail dunkin donuts ice
spice drink is the new fentanyl.
Spread the word.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, it just won't be as quick, but.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're definitely, I mean, obesity is a big problem.
I'm just saying, you know, think about that.
All right.
On that note, we're going to talk about even more stuff behind the paywall because I think
we're at that time now.
Oh, shit.
Do I get a cut?
No.
Sick. Yeah. No no not at all but if you want to check that out you need to go to patreon.com slash fear and we have all the
the new updates right march yeah we have all the the bells and whistles we have a lot of shit
thanks to cutie and me no i guess you record one thing i don't know shit i don't do shit for it
yeah tan is there anything you want to yeah she's on tour like vaping right now yeah horrible
i appreciate you guys having me on i'm on tour right now um we'll be releasing new dates soon
that will be available um tune into the canceled podcast if you're a part of the
four percent audience over here that might enjoy the things we talk about but wait really
this is four percent men no i was saying the four percent of the 4% audience over here that might enjoy the things we talk about. Wait, really?
This is 4% men?
No, I was saying the 4% of what's your audience?
It's 30 women.
He has a higher female audience than I do.
Wow.
Isn't that funny?
That's kind of crazy.
Because he does more like broad talking and I started in gaming.
I'm just here for the vibes. It was nice to meet all of you guys.
Such a pleasure, Tana.
Good vibes. Thank you for having me
Such a pleasure Tana
See you on the other side
Do you know who Ludwig is
She doesn't know
She doesn't do any of this stuff
I wonder if you think he's cute
I wonder if you think he's a jock too
It's so funny because we're in such a similar world
I know we're like Doesn't similar world with such a different vibe.
I know.
Yeah, but doesn't that give you a sense of like...
It's like Lord of the Rings and some of us are in the Shire and some of us are in Rivendell.
Go back to that photo.
That photo's so funny because he was wearing a romper.
Wait, where'd it go?
A romper?
He was wearing a romper from Target.
How long have you guys been together?
You can see his wiener.
So he had to put shorts
over it
because we're at Disneyland.
I'm not going to lie.
How long have you guys
been together for?
Do you think you're
going to marry him?
Do you believe in
traditional concepts of marriage?
Are you going to stream it?
Judy, speak into the microphone.
Hassan, shut up.