Fear& - The Next Generation Of Streamers ft. Arky & Yugi | Fear&

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

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That's crazy. So you use the watch. us back in the day? Well, I, no, I wouldn't type. I was a lurker. Okay, so you, that's why I, he'd watch Bruce.

Yeah, Bruce and Rage and Dante. So you never watched my shit? Hell no, I think I'd rather die, dude. Yeah, no, I never watched your shit either. Sorry, that was weird. Sorry, that was honest, it's good to be honest. I did fun shit back.

I feel like I could be honest with you, bro. I thought I did fun shit back then. No, and I bet you did, bro, but I wasn't fitting to me. And I thought it was nice. Yeah, I thought it was good. Yeah, you're probably really good. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Fear and Podcast.

We have a very special episode for you this week. Austin is gone and Will died to a self-suck incident. Thank God. So, of course, we've replaced them with some young talent instead. Argy and Yugi, ladies and gentlemen, and also joining us, as always, wonderful co-host, QTie Cinderella. Welcome. Welcome to podcast.

Thank you. Yes, fresh off the plane. I did such a better job than Austin does. I should just do the intro. I don't know why he yells. I should do the intros every week instead of Austin. I can't like Austin. Oh.

Whoa. Wow. Wow. Okay. What the fuck? I just, I just give my two cents, you know? What? Give me one episode that you watch of the Fear End podcast.

Okay. I watched a couple, right? We used to watch it. We actually, we actually used to watch this all the zone back in the day. Yeah, wait, what first of all, why and then why did you stop back when we wanted to infiltrate the poggers community? Yeah, we're trying to understand lore and like see what you're like I understand the way we should act Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're lying like shit bro, I'm honest It's just wanted to hate on you, bro, I just like Austin yeah

That's okay That's good for Austin that's good for he needed that he needed that no, it's good, it's good Well, welcome they just got back from the streamer university Yeah, we landed last night I see Which is insane All right, give us the drama, give us the T, everything. Let's start.

Because I've watched some, look, I'm 35, full disclosure. I'm about to be 35. By the time this podcast comes out, as a matter of fact, I will have been 35. I'm 34 right now. Yes, I'm old as dirt. Brother, someone has to pick up the torch. No, I know. I was there.

You guys are going to start? You want to do politics? Oh, never mind. I think I'd rather die. Yeah, no. No, you don't want to take his torch. I don't know. No.

That's crazy. Do we cuss on here? No. Yeah, you can curse on here. I've been cursing off a storm. Oh, you got to make sure. Oh, you got a potty mouth? No, just sometimes I like filling in work. I'm a weird guy. All right. No, that's that's fine. Um, but yeah, what was I talking about? Oh, streamer university. They were 35. I'm 35 years old. So I just didn't really watch too much, but I saw some bits and pieces of it. It seemed pretty chaotic. I liked it overall.

Uh, there was some, some cool moments. Uh, we have to get into it. You guys were there. Yeah. Uh, uh, uh, Boots on the ground journalism is what we call it. Yes, that's what we're doing. We're having a serious discussion. Welcome, this is NPR. Okay, so we just get into it. Yeah, day one.

So me, I was an alumni. I was in last year from university, so I was only there for two days. But Yugi was there for the full five days. So he has, you know, you can start it off, then I'll come in. I think one of the biggest moments, I guess, like, everyone kind of the internet kind of saw it was like the max thing. Yeah. I think you guys kind of like seeing that.

Oh my God. How? So dare you talk to Max like that. So sad. Also, also dress like that. Also dress like that. It's crazy.

You can't be a fashion guy and then also be homophobic at the same time. I thought his outfit was nice. No, it was, he doesn't have nice outfits. But since he just talked to it, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. Fuck your outfit. Yeah. It was just kind of crazy. Oh my God. Yeah. I forgot how angry that made me. It was so cring.

It was so cring. Max ended his stream and everything. I was like, yeah. Yeah. It's the dopest tattoo in the entire world genuinely. I wanted to offer getting a matching tramp stamp. I feel like, I don't know why the internet was so mad at that, by the way.

The internet was so mad at that too. Yeah. Because people are deeply fucking insecure. They're insecure about their own sexuality and expressions that are like non-conforming. If anybody tries to do anything, everybody clowns on it because they're worried because they never want to be brave. in any capacity whatsoever. That's where it comes from. And I think, like, I saw so many clips of this dude, OJ, from his own community because

he got, like, his nails done, I think, at some point. And people were calling him gay for it. That's crazy. And he was obviously so insecure about that that he just carried on that insecurity to Max. And I think Max handled it fairly well. I mean, he was vulnerable. He teared up a little bit, but he was like, there's no problem with being gay. So what if I was, like, all this stuff?

But the hero, aside from, you know, the way Max dealt with it was Wardrow. Yes. I fucking loved that guy. That kid, he's 17. Well, he's 17. Yeah, 17 years old. He's insane. He stood up to that.

He stood up to that man. He just almost twice his age and he was like, nope, fuck that. That's unacceptable. I think many people would have shied away from doing that. I agree. Yeah, a lot of people would be like a little bit like intimidated. He's tough. Yeah.

He's tough. I respect them. It was like, who was your favorite? Who's your least favorite? Whoa. Whoa. Wow.

Okay. Whoa. What I mean? At Schumer University. Bro, Archie taught some, bro. You started it.

Oh, yeah, go ahead. He said, he was going to finish it, but as he said. Yeah, yeah. We're finished with him. Don't worry.

Yeah. The least favorite. Oh, least favorite was OJ, bro. Ridic. It was actually ridiculous. Good answer. No,

inside of OJ. Oh, God. Well, then that's just the, then that's just devalering the question. The question is just No, no, no, no. We already know OJ is the crowd's favorite.

I missed it. Did OJ apologize? He tried, but it's like, it's like one of those things where, you know, you kind of just got to take it to the chin and hope you do better. Yeah, and hopefully. Yeah. Because when someone comes at you personally like that, like I feel like Max is one of the guys that kind of got the you change, you change, you change, but it's like as a

human brother. I mean, you can say the same thing for both. You guys are all three of us, right? It's like, you are not the same person. You were like a year ago. Yeah, yeah. Maybe even two. me. He might actually be the same.

You know, you might be the same. I think he's been a... For us, normal. For the last 10 years. Yeah. He doesn't... But you know what I mean? Like, you don't even want to really see... Maybe in the future. Who knows? Yeah.

At the end of the day, I think he tried to apologize and... Or he said he's taking accountability, but it's... We'll see. No, he got yelled at it. And I don't think he was expecting that. I think Max is right to call him out. Because he was trying to clip farm. Yeah.

Because everybody, I think, has been like, clowning on Max for that for a while now. I missed this. I didn't know people were doing that. He's like doing the Prince thing, which is so funny that they're like, oh, dude, this is gay. Like, what the fuck happened? Like, that's Prince. Put some respect on Prince.

But I guess the new generation doesn't understand that. And then also, there is, I feel like, this environment, especially with kick streamers in general and like Twitter to Twitter is such a fucking clickbaited right wing shithole at this. point, that that I think causes people into leaning in to that kind of like weirdo behavior, chud-ass behavior, because they think like that shit's sweet because it does well on Twitter. So people respond to that and they go, oh, I can do that. It's hacky. You don't have a, you don't have a creative way of, you know, riffing with your friend or

someone that you know. So you just go for like the most bottom of the barrel line of attack. You've seen it in the comment section. People say Max is a weirdo. and you address it in that same exact way to get a clip off. And I don't think he was expecting that backlash. So when he got it, he got it, he was like, oh, you know, I just was trying to have a man-to-man conversation.

It was just like, and then after, day after, I said to, like, have a conversation with him, he was like, he was playing some type of, like, trolley characters, something like that. I was just like, yeah, but, like, brother, like, I don't know. It feels like backtracking at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just say, I'm sorry, and I fucked up.

Yeah. And then him explaining. it comes off as like, you know what I mean? Just apologize. I take accountability and, you know, you did what you did and move on. Yeah. You know all about that, huh? What do you mean?

No, I've had my fair share of, you know, fuck. He's grown up. Oh, yeah, that's true. I just threw that out. Yeah. No, I have. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, you have fucked up.

Dude, it's pretty bad. And it's just a list of women crying. It's pretty bad. You know what I mean? Like, for a good minute. It was like he was known as the good twin. You know what I was the one thing. Or the best.

He's the PR twin. Wait, why are you the bad one now? I was just saying stuff. I'm not the bad. He's still him a little bit. No, it's still, yeah. But he's the PR one. I'm the one that like, like the, I guess you can say, not, not that I'm not PR.

I think I've gotten better. No, you're, yeah. I think, you're, I think, let's not let this conversation take away with the fact that you refused to answer a direct question about who his least favorite was. Well, that's because he's learning, man. Yes. He's his favorite person at streamer you? Yeah. Dude.

It's hard. Like, there's so many of them. Bro. What? What? What? No,

I'm shocked that you're saying. What are you? You're implying that there were too many to choose from. No, but I did that it. It's like, bro, no,

no, for me, I might sound like I'm fencing. I'm not saying like a fence sitting. But it's like, who am I to judge someone's mistakes, y'all? You know what I mean?

Come on. Come on. Come on. Okay. That's a good thing. You know what I'm not fencing. God be over here. It's like,

No, I'm being serious. I'm being serious. It's like, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I don't think I didn't meet someone. I'm going to get this out of you. I'm not going to be like, oh, I hated them. No, there was actually nobody.

Like, I'll be honest. Not a single one. You're such a liar. No, I'm serious. I'm going to go back and look through all your footage. The only person on my life was O.J. And that's because, bro, he had multiple things that he did wrong. What about that one guy was like being physical with everybody?

I think he's talking about. Oh, that he slapped Jason. Oh, yeah. Oh, Raphael. Was that a real fight? I think he was. Yeah, it was. I think it was.

Until he slapped Jason on the butt and then I think Jason remembered like oh content Yeah, but it was ruined like yeah because like I know Jason I could tell he was very frustrated because I was the guy He's I think he's like 25-ish pretty up there. Yeah, like he's around there up there But like no no no no he's up there but he's up there. No, he's not a real no he's not sure in this room I'm we're all up there now I'm how old are you I'm 23 that's crazy. I am so much older than you I'm going to kill myself What do you mean? I should just die.

I'm going to die tomorrow. No. No, I think, bro, like, we're all mature here now. You know what I mean? Now I think we all have a good head on our shoulders. I fuck up all the time. Yeah. We still do.

I do. My God, federal government's coming after me. You need to be safe, bro. I always worry about you sometimes. Like, you know what I mean? Like, no, like no troll. I sometimes worry like, dude, I hope you, like, knock on wood. We all do that.

I don't, I don't want you to get murdered one day, dude. Thanks, man. That would actually make me sad, bro. That would make us all the sad. I'm saying the obvious, huh? I'm saying it's obvious. I'm going to keep it to myself. It's a great thing.

I'd be sad if any of you got murdered. No, it's true. No, but, no, you, bro, you, how do I say? You have heart, bro. That's what I'll say. You have heart. And you're brave. Thank you.

I like this. I like this dynamic. Have you ever had Yugi on your stream? No, we were supposed to. We were supposed to do a politic stream. Brother, I'm going to be honest. I'm bad at collabs. Oh, that was.

It would have been good. Why? Because we did the dog collar shocking stream. That was hilarious. Dude, that was hilarious. I zapped a fuck out of you. He got me so many time. It was so fucked up too because what was it?

It was like right after MLK day or something. No, it was. Oh my God. It was hilarious. When he told me he was doing that with you, I knew that was going to hit. It was amazing. It was great. I thought it was hilarious.

Yeah. But you get so who was your least favorite? Yeah, go ahead. Dude, I couldn't tell you. I didn't know no I'm serious I'm the worst person to ask this about maybe Give me some Yeah I don't have nothing brother nothing I'm trying to farm a clip off you so hard

No I'm doing good job Nothing because I'm proud of you Everybody walks into into streaming university like hey it's it's content Obviously there's those real yeah yeah yeah I think he can understand like You know you just because once you get in a bad mood Then the whole streamed Oh it's so I felt for Kai when like the award show Started and he couldn't get the number up the overlay done

Oh my God. And I saw him and he was like pacing and I was like, dude, that would fuck up my mindset. Like I would be so like. But he's incredible. He can recover like nobody's business. I would be like you'd be able to tell on my face. Like I have such a bad face hiding skill. Like, oh my God.

I can't imagine. I'm trying to actually think of a moment, man. I can go. I would say yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that guy that slapped Jason like the Raphael guy. At first when I was watching, I didn't like him. I was like no because like he slapped Jason.

He threw water at Bonnie. Bonnie. He spit on Sinai. Yeah. And he spent on Ray, like, on the floor. And then, like, he was just mean to Yugi, too. Like, he was just, like, very much to everyone. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, so I was just like, I'm going to like. So you couldn't even fucking say that was the guy that was mean to you? I mean, brother, I'm, no, it's like, I'm telling you. Stand up for yourself. Like, I leave it, like, this stream university, I try to, like, especially seeing his. Because I've seen his last year. And when I seen Arkees, it's like, when he would get thrown off, you know, he kind of just like, you know, that's the way Archie's always made.

Yeah, you're good at that. He takes it to the chin. So I was like, you know what? To this time around, I'm going to see if I could kind of do what he just takes it on the chin. You know what? That's good. I think like some of the best lessons I've learned is how Maya handles things compared how I handle things. So I'm the same way.

I'll watch Maya or all be in a situation and I'll be like, okay, how would Maya handle this? And it's always the right way. No, fuck that. You got to go balls to the wall. So it's never how Hassan would handle it. No, he crashes. He crashes here and there. He very rarely though.

I only looked at his balls like going up to streaming. He only looked at his vaugh. You studied his vase? No, yeah. I mean, I think. Because there's similar environments. Yeah. But I would say about like the Raphael guy, he did go and apologize to everyone after.

So it's like, I don't feel the same way. Yeah. At first when I seen it, I was like, so what? It's like a neon thing where he's just like, oh, it's just content. I'm sorry. Does neon say that? That was his excuse at first. He was all like.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One went on an apology tour.

Remember when he was like, I missed this. Yeah. He even apologized to me. I was like. I don't know who you are. I know now, but at the time, I was like, I'm okay. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

He should have apologized to every. He was going to, like, not a PR tour. Yeah. I'm just trying to fix his wrong. I kind of agree with you. Like, I'm pretty good. Like, I'm like, okay. Like, if OJ would have given a sincere apology to Max, okay.

Like, all right, you know, as long as, like, it's sincere. Not me. We had strikes. He had strikes. He had strikes. There was, like, like, he had multiple things you've done. Yeah. Really?

He went up to a course like you know whatever, but he went into to a pregnant girl that was Astrom University He said hey, batty Yeah, no, he said it. There was a move over, Jumbo? I believe so Yeah, there was two of them. What two? Yeah, I never seen them, but it's not actually high school.

It's okay. Well, I mean, there's pregnant people at high school too. I just, that's crazy. It's a crazy chaotic environment. And he went up to her and he was like, yo, can I put my hand on your belly? You know what I mean? And I was like, oh, that's a question, but He says that

I said okay, that's question Yeah, and then she's like No, I just don't like men who touch my I don't know I'm very particular who touching my belly And she's like I think he says yeah Well that baby is evil or some shit

He says that even that baby Maybe I don't want to touch that baby Or something like that maybe yeah Maybe I don't even want to touch that baby Yeah he said something like I don't even want you stupid ass I don't even want to touch your baby or something It was something on those lines

Interesting He was like actively wanted to touch the baby Yeah, I don't even know. But then it's like boom, boom. And it's like these several moments where it's like, OJ, I don't know if he was playing a character or something. But like it was. That's one thing I started thinking about is like when I first came up, I played like I tried to. I was looking at streaming you.

If I were to go now, obviously I could be myself. Right. Like I'd be fine and I'd be, I couldn't handle it right now, which is why I didn't. I applied this year, but I rescinded my application because I was like, you guys know I've been. No, it's okay. A little cookie. But that's okay. But when I first came up, she was engaged.

Yeah, I mean engaged. Oh, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Do you want to try it on? All these dudes are going to be throwing themselves to me. Oh, wow. Try it on.

Oh, I got too big of fingers. Oh, it doesn't even speak on me. No, my fingers are really chubby. Oh, my God. It doesn't even get past the first. Do you have chubby fingers. Oh, my God. Yeah.

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Wow! But when I thought you would have had dainty fingers. That's crazy. Yeah. When I came up, I played a character. Like, I intentionally played an offensive character. You guys have received an OG? Yeah, no.

I don't think I've seen it. It was bad. It was bad, but. She was a crazy girlfriend. That, yeah, I'd play like, I'd just play like, just, like, just, like, obsessed with people. Like, I would, like, like, you would, like, and I would be mean to other girls but I would go into, I'd always ask

permission, like, because it was like stupid Zoom call. Never asked me permission. I wouldn't ask, I didn't know, okay, I didn't, I wasn't mean, was I mean to you? Fuck yourself, you deserved it, I'm sure. You were crazy, but like, I would go into the Zoom calls and then be all these girls and I'd be like, hey guys, I'm going to be mean to you,

is that okay? And they're like, yeah, like, please, like, did it, you know, because they wanted the clips because the clips back then were still the clips, but it was different because the clips were just Reddit. Yeah. The clips were nowhere else. Like it was weird. Only Reddit.

LSSF. LOSF was like where everything, wow, we're just teaching you guys the old lore. It's weird. God, I'm so old. Fuck. Yeah. But yeah, back then, LSF was actually good. Like it was, I mean, it had its problems still.

But it wasn't like infiltrated by these like insane communities and like totally brigated into shit. So most people like fans would post their favorite. moments from streams and like everyone would watch and everyone would react to it. Yeah. And then you get a boost on your stream. Like I went from 20 viewers to 100 viewers to 300 to 1,000 all because I would just say these insane things. Like I was just like like I would neg people or I would like I went on a dating show with

Hassan and I like dressed up as Hassan and then he eliminated me and I had this giant cookie and I just like destroyed it and like called him ugly and fat and all that's what streaming was about it. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was farming, but it was, it was like, I don't know, it just felt more, like everyone knew I was doing a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Nowadays, it's like, now you can't tell. Now you can't tell. And also, I feel like, I mean, it's in person. It's like, I could never imagine doing that. Could you imagine doing that in person? Yeah, no. I don't. No, I don't, I don't do that. I didn't even do that back then, so I couldn't do it, uh, anyway. But we had like, there were some communities back then, even before our time, honestly,

that would do like basically news and streaming, but they would do it to the next level. Like, what kick streamers do for the most part, like there was a group of people that would do that. And, and... But they just got banned, right? Yeah, they got banned. But for the most part, like, that was it.

It was like their own little circle. And then the rest of it was like, I would say far more, far more communal, if that's the right way. word for it. Like people would hang out. Like we were all friends with one another. We were all friendly with one another. We were all friends with one another. We were all friends with one another. We collaborate. And then I think somewhere along the line, I think like post-COVID, like during

COVID, it got so big that people started making real money, like crazy money. Because before that, it was just like Ninja and Tifu and all those guys that got like, you know, 20, 30 million dollars or some crazy shit like that. And then everyone else was making a decent amount of money, but it wasn't anything like during COVID. And then I think like it got really clicky. Yeah. And community started like that's why it's so funny to like, because I hear you guys call us like poggers and whatever,

you know, like here. Does that just mean we're old or what does that mean? Yeah. What do you I say categories like poggers ass? Poggers to me was always like because I, I mean, I think we grew up more like W and L.

So at that time it was more like Bruce, Ray. Right. Dante, Akai, you know what I mean, WL. So growing up, we knew, or at least I knew, I've been on Twitch for like, since like 2013, 20. Wow. So I knew you guys. I knew you. Jesus Christ, bro.

Your brain is fucking five. No wonder you turn out like this. No, yeah, dude, it's bad. But I knew you guys. So it's been a minute, like a long minute. That's crazy. So you used to watch us back in the day? No, I wouldn't type.

I was a lurker. Okay. So you, that's why. But you watched Bruce. Yeah, I'd watch Bruce. Yeah, Bruce and Raich and Dante. So you never watched my shit? Hell no.

I think I'd rather die, dude. Yeah. No, I never watched your shit either. Sorry, that was weird. Sorry. Honestly, it's good to be honest sometimes. I did fun shit. I feel like I could be honest with you, bro.

I did fun shit back then. No, and I bet you did, bro, but I wasn't funny to me apparently. And I thought it was nice. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably really good. But Pockers, like, Pockers isn't a bad term in my opinion, unless like, unless you use it that way.

Like, Pockers, I feel like, yo, that's the PR. side. That's the way I see it. Dude, that's so funny because, like, half of the people that you guys consider to be PR side are just, like, demonic. Yeah. No, yeah. I mean, come to find out, you know what I mean? Yeah. I think because, like, every time, I remember, because when me, Archie, I'd always go with Archie whenever he'd go to Austin and whatnot.

Yeah. And I'd be like, you're like, you know, like I said, PR is something. It was something new to me. So I was like, I don't know. I'll pick up my voice a little bit, speak a little lighter, you know what I think? Even little things like that. So to me, y'all, the Pogger side was like the PR side to me. Interesting.

It's funny because, yeah, because I think people call, I'll hear us refer to like, I'll hear myself referred to as poggers. They're like Ray, Ray and I were talking about it today. And because Haskell. Oh, yeah. Wow. Haskell. Yeah, Haskell.

Haskell was, you know, he was like, I don't mean offense to any of the poggers. Like, I don't Ludwig, Ray, any of the poggers. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, it's crazy. the group that is considered hoggers, half the people don't even get along or talk to each other. Like, I'm like, it's crazy. I thought you guys were all best friends. No, no, no, we used to be. It's like, I want to be called something else.

So here's the thing, like I said, we used to be fairly tight knit. Like, everybody would hang out with one another. Everyone would collaborate with one another. And it was like, it literally was just like, you know how you go to Austin? It was kind of like that where people would just like travel to L.A. and you would have these like crazy assortments that you normally would never get, you know, ex-QC with Pockeman and someone like myself.

And, and then like, click started forming, bags started getting bigger. There was a lot of drama and, and a lot of, you know, accusations,

lawsuits, shit like that. And then it just imploded. And people basically, the way I think about it, there's two ways to network, right? Network.

You can either collaborate with someone in a positive manner, or you can force a collaboration by calling them out. And I think we went from positive collaborations and doing fun stuff together to just like people constantly doing drama with one another where they were calling each other out and shit. And that's what ruined the environment. But then you guys came along and I think

there's been a decent, there's been a decent amount of life brought back into the platform. Like the W&L community has always been pretty good. I'm sure there's drama there too. Who do you hate the most out of that? Nah, bro, I don't. I don't know, bro. Let me there's a couple people.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Speak your truth. Dude, I don't just nobody. No one for the W&L community watches his podcast. Oh, like WL community

that we don't like? Yeah. Dude. Anybody that doesn't fuck with Arckey, I don't really fuck with, bro. Who doesn't fuck with Arkey? You'd be surprised, everybody puts with Arkey.

What are they saying about? You'd be surprised. What's the gossip? He smiles too much. It's like, everyone likes me. I'm heard. Who knows? Who knows?

Who knows, bro. Deep down the side he's devious is what people say. No, no. That's what you told me. I've talked to things I've never said. I haven't even talked to you, Hassan, in the past three months. That's crazy. No, the last time I spoke to you was July 4th.

July 4th. At the July 4th phase party. Last year? Wow. No, that's not true. We did the cutie thing. What cutie thing? Oh, yes.

Oh, my concert. Oh, yeah. The Christmas charity event. That's where you told me we were going to do a Christmas charity event. That's where you told me. I want to do a political class. with you also, Arki's fake as fuck. I guess I said that.

That's what you said that. We were supposed to do that. What the fuck? I forget. It's because I'm not a, I'm very, I'm very nervous with collabing. I'm so weird. I'm a weird dude. I'm like that, me, Archie are literally opposite sometimes.

Like, we are just like, like, it is, it's, it's kind of crazy. Because he's, he collabs a lot. He has good energy. I'm, I have bad energy. Me too. I think we're the same. I have bad energy. Very negative.

Yeah, maybe you're the, you're the Maya. Yeah, I'm just like, I'm just like, Rki, I have good energy. No. You're on your own island. You are not related to us right now, brother. You're not related to us right now, brother. I'm not able to listen. Listen, I am capable of having fun.

I know the suit is probably not doing me any. No, I think we're all looking chill. He just probably woke up. You're looking chill. I woke up with his shirt. You, yeah, like this whole thing. You're making me uncomfortable here, brother. You know what I mean?

I want you to just chill. You turned up the hall. I'm from Texas, bro. Yeah. I see the Buckees hat. Yeah. He's from Texas. He's from Texas.

What part of Texas? Austin. Funny enough. Oh, that's funny. That you're from Austin. Yeah. That doesn't count. Yeah.

What? Austin's so woe. Oh, here you go. No, no, no. It's not real Texas. No, it's Texas. That's where everybody dead has lives. It's good to live in Austin so everybody could go to the San Antonio, Dallas.

It makes it easier. You know what I'm just how it is. I might, I might come down to Houston soon. Quill Town, dude. A fucking I don't like the, well, that's like the, new things you're using. I'm sorry. I'm very,

I'm like my quill. But like, oh, fun, I like it. Okay, I got so nervous I was going to have

another agent moment right there. I got so scared. As soon as I said it out loud, I was like, fuck. I think it is, it is boring.

You're right. It's just like they've designed this fucking city with parking lots in mind is so goddamn unbearable. It's just like all excerpts. And then the rest of the city you got the one downtown

and then you got parking lots everywhere. Everywhere, brother. And there's constant traffic. I hate that shit. Where are you from? Ohio. What?

I give Ohio. No, I'm born and raised in L.A. I'm born and raised in L.A., but I moved when I was like 14 to Vegas. And then I came back. With my family. Okay. What part of L.A.? Um, like from, like, from like Inglewood area.

So from, yeah, that's where I'm from. Kind of like the Sofi Stadium. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also another place where there's mad traffic all of time. Oh, yeah, it's terrible.

But the traffic was so bad. And it was the hood at that time. Now it's like, it's getting judgment. It's getting gentrified. It's way different. You put a giant stadium in there. It'll do that. Yeah.

And it changes everything. Yeah. It's crazy. So explain. You filled out an application. You both applied. Yeah. Correct.

Yeah. So did you, you didn't know until you were watching it who was going and who wasn't. Right. No. Yeah. We don't know until like he unveils it on the thing. So like I thought like we didn't know that he was going to do like alumni come in later. I thought it was going to be like everyone was going to be like everyone was going.

to be announced. I thought there was going to be a board. Yeah. For alumni. Okay, now we're going to see the alumni. So I was like, boom. But then when he was going, I was like, my hope was going. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm not getting.

Yeah, because there were no really alumni that weren't professors. Like, Yanna was, or drama club or whatever. It was like club director. Yeah. Okay. And I was like, damn. And then I was like, okay. Like, it's okay.

Like maybe next year. But then, but then Kai called me and he was like, oh, yeah, you're one of the, like, alumni. So be ready. And I was like, oh shoot, let's do it. And I was super nervous. So when did you know? It was like two days after he, uh-oh.

Oh, okay. There is not enough. There was not enough time. Yeah, so you had three days to, yeah, okay. Not at all. They're flying out to, was Arkansas? Dude, it was Arkansas. That's crazy.

Oh, the weather over there was terrible. Arkansas, I don't know. I like it. I've never been there. It's super human. Oh, really? Everyone talks about Arkansas in such favorable terms normally. I took my family from.

Like, I took my ancestry test. they were from Arkansas. But yeah. Your ancestry test can say you're from Arkansas? Said you're from Arkansas. Well, like they're from the south, but then they moved to California. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Okay. Like your family tree. Yeah. Okay. Okay. From like my dad's side. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. I can get behind that. Okay. So you don't have anyone that you made beef with, though. I'm sure. Are you? No, no. I didn't make beef anyone.

I was pretty like, chill. I was just like trying to meet everyone because I was only there for like one to two days. I was like. Not even that, bro. Yeah. Like, it was literally like 24 hours. How many streamers were there? There was like 140.

Oh my God, 140 streamers. Oh, my God. 140 streamers. And then when the alumni came, it was an extra 50. So then there was like 190 on campus. That's crazy. So like, okay, so I'm, so you did it last year. Did you see a lot of benefits?

Because Ludwig obviously popped off with his like lectures. And one of the things that I was watching, because that was like the only thing that I could associate with because I'm old. That's the only thing I can understand. I was like, oh, agents doing a lecture. Yeah. And then oh, Ludwig's doing a lecture. And he was talking about how like streamer university actually doesn't have positive benefits for most streamers. Do you want to see it actually?

What? I have them. You have the PowerPoint? So Valki-Ray came over to my house the night before she flew out. And she was just taught. She was like, I was helping her with her slideshow essentially. And then I remembered halfway through because of streamer awards, I keep a like tracker of everyone who went to streamer university and their positive and negative for 30, 16. 90 after leaving.

Just to kind of, you know, it's just an incubator. Thank you. What the fuck? You're like a baseball style. You guys, I take the stream awards very seriously. Oh my God. People don't give me. Cutie, what the fuck?

You know, I have another spreadsheet in my phone. Every single night, I watch Twitch for at least 10 to 20 minutes, minimum. And I just go through all that and you still don't watch me. That's great. I'm trying to find new. I'm trying to find the new. You're going to start questioning yourself here, brother. That's actually a really good point.

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I should be on there maybe. Like you can see their change like from April to June because it was, it was, I think this was there before and after, if I recall. But, like, most people, like, the bigger streamers obviously lost viewers, right? Because they've only peaked then. And then Ludwig had a more intense one that broke down, like, even now, like, currently. And majority, like, didn't, like, I think the average was negative four viewers. But I think here's the thing, because this is a top heavy platform, right?

Yeah. So obviously, it's really good for content creators who cut through the noise and, like, make a, make a massive impact during, like the, the guy suburb baby, suburb baby, like that dude went from literally what, three viewers to like 180,000 or some crazy number. And I'm fairly certain that like going forward, if he keeps up, if he keeps streaming, he's going to be a 10k streamer easily, which is a huge, huge boost from going from zero. Because going from zero to 30 is probably the most difficult part of Twitch streaming. Yeah.

And then going from 30 to like 3,000 is also just as difficult. Yeah. Going from 3,000 to 10,000, maybe less difficult, but still. It's still hard. It feels like there's like a very likely. Very unlikely. Go for zero to a thousand or zero to 10K concurrent consistently. It's probably where he's going to land on, I assume.

I don't know. I didn't really watch any of his clips. I don't know what his deal was. What was he doing? He was like the, he was like the main enemy of the campus. Like he was the guy that would. like ditch the classes and prank people and like start the water war. But not in like a not in like a negative overtly negative way.

She was like the good villain like you know like class clown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So people who like went to war with him, they knew it was all the joke and it wasn't like bad blood. Like it was like oh shoot like yeah. Yeah. Like it was like good blood.

But if you mess with him, you just know you'd have war pretty much. War with him. Like he was the guy that like Kai was looking at get and then he had like the like the streamer you like PD and then it was all like, it was like, Subber Baby is the most. was wanted. There was like a bounty on his head. And it was trying to find him and stuff. So it was like that. Yeah. I see. Did you go to

classes when you went for the day? Yeah. I only went to two classes. I went to agents and Ludwig. Oh, okay. Okay. Because I was on a tight, tight schedule because we got there when the classes ended. And then we left the next day and then by the next day we had to leave by three. So then it was like, I'd have enough time to go to

every class. Yeah. And what classes did you go to? I went to everyone I could. I went to Ludwig's, I think, two times. I went to agents. I went to Rays. I went to Rages. I went to Rage. Yeah, Rage had a class. Rage was teaching Rays? No.

Imagine. He was the guidance counselor. He was a counselor and he was like. He was just talking about your feelings. Like mental. Like mental. Oh, okay. Your head like your head on your shoulders, I guess. I like that. I talked a lot during that class, bro.

I'm like, ah, you know what? Oh, okay. So you weren't. But I do remember a slide. I do remember like a slide or two. He was like, you know, you got, oh, then, yeah. Oh, I guess content ideas, you know, it was either content ideas, how to feel about your content. It feels like you really got a lot for me. Yeah.

It feels like. Oh, my God. I was like, you didn't listen to shit. You changed your life. No, no, no. You were there. Bro, you were literally there to farm. You are the, you are the problem.

No, no, no. Right. That class was, it's because I forgot what. That's not, bro. That's okay. That's bad. Okay. Give me one lesson you learned from a week ago.

He was asleep to bed. Give me one last that you learned from a Ludwig class. Ludwig class that streaming 300 hours isn't really, I mean, this is kind of obvious, but like streaming 300 hours isn't really grinding. It's just kind of empty calories. I guess you'd be nowhere. I don't even know if I agree with that. What the fuck was he teaching these kids? No, no, no, it was different classes.

No, no, no. It's the analogy. It's the same. You can say like, because you're a freak. You have new, you're doing news. So you're getting like a filter. Your whole stream is. Oh,

oh, he's saying like, don't just stream for the sake of streaming. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Be intentional. Yeah.

Oh, well, I literally also set it up every day. Well, I know, but that's what I'm saying. That's why I said you're a freak. Yeah.

I wake up in the morning at 6 a.m. every morning and I literally download. He has to look at all the news. Every, yeah, everything that's going on and then figure out a run of show every morning. If you think about it, that's like unlimited.

Like news. Yeah. Not saying that you know, you don't work hard. you work out. No, no, no, I understand it. And it comes with lots of death threats. From a, from a content perspective that, yes, I have

technically unlimited content. Of course, news also get stale. People don't give a shit. Of course. You know, close friends never watch you. Clearly. Dude, clearly. I don't know why he said close.

They're like, ugh, yuck. Yeah. You know, that type of shit. But yeah, I say you have a good unlimited type of content, but, um, not unlimited, obviously, but, uh, with Lederway, he was like saying, like, pretty much like, pretty much like, use that time for other things.

Which I've been told by many, many people, obviously. Consistency is key, though. Oh, 100%. I agree. Again, something I learned from him. But, yeah, something that I learned. One of the things I learned, because he taught multiple classes, which I think his was obviously, I mean, proofs in the pudding.

It was like the most insightful. And then he did a YouTube class. Smart guy, huh? Very smart guy. And he also told us to cut some of our members. Yeah. So what's that? Unpack this drama for us.

For the people that don't know, what's your group name and who are the members? Yeah, so me and you... No, actually, wait. Hassan, who are the members of OSCS? Oh, yeah, that's good. That's good. There's OSCS, and there's a, you two. There's a girl named Sonny who you hate.

Not this again. You hate her. And then I don't know the rest. Okay. There's one dude. Okay. Then one more question. What?

Who are all the members of Corps? Core? Core is the new phase, right? Yeah, who are the members? Lacey, Jason, Marlin, Ron, Silky, and I guess like, oh, Adapt, obviously. And does KSON count? Like, he's not. He's like an honor.

Yeah, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, so you even had an honor right now. Okay. Name all the members of OTV. Zero percent chance. Okay.

Okay. Well, I mean, because they've changed. I just want to try. I just want to try. I just want to change like a fucking disguised toast. Okay. City on. Lily.

Poki. Who graduated. Yeah, she left. Okay. See, that's what I mean. Okay. But that's it. I'm just curious.

I changed throughout time, right? So then I don't even fucking know. Scara And Who else? I don't know I think that's No you missed Jody

John Oh true Jody and John Michael Michael Mike Reeves is a part of OTV Yeah I don't know

I don't even Yeah See okay but that's That's a good example But OTV doesn't really count For that reason Because like I know these people And I know that they're

Like I forgot Jody and John For sure But like Like Michael Reeves I had no fucking clue He was part of OTV Right right Right.

Like, I just thought he was, you know, hanging out because Lily. No. Yeah. But that's a good example. Yeah, that is true. Because then it's like, okay, think of their marketing versus, you know, Cors marketing. He knows all the names. And this guy.

Also, you have to remember, though, these are people that I've collaborated with, people that have known for years at this point. Even with, like, Phase, I've done a lot more than I've done with OS. Yes. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I just know.

But you've a collaborative. You've known OTV people longer than you've known Phase people. Yeah, but I've collaborated. with FaceMpeople more recently. But then also, like, the reason why I knew Sunny is because Archie hates her. Right. Yeah, you know what I mean? That's not true.

Like, that was what, I mean, look, Yugi tells me about your drama. So maybe you need more, and you can tell me about Sunny's drama. Yeah, I didn't do more drama. Oh, yes. Yeah, because this was a little bit of drama and people are talking about us a little bit, but maybe not in the best life. I agree. Okay, so what happened? So, boom, me and Yugi had a class.

We had the Ludwig class. It was on my last day. and he was doing questions after so I was all like, oh, shoot, I was like you like, let's ask him about OCS because like we got nominated for Orga the Year last year. Yeah, yes, why are you laughing? You're actually weird, bro. No, you're actually weird for why laugh?

I just am a happy guy. So, yes, we got nominated for Oregon to the year last year and then we haven't really done much after that. Like, you know, that was like our highlight as a group. So I was all like, hmm. So like we tried a lot of stuff, but like things fell through. We got lazy and like, we had plans.

I know you guys is like being into Asian girls. That's how I know. Not true. Not true. My girlfriend's Asian. Yeah. I was like, wait a second. But,

but no, that's not true. Is she a part of OISE? No, my girlfriend is like, she's in her own niche. Uh-huh. I kind of let her just, hey, man, that's fun. Okay. That's cool. But a lot of, like, for example,

uh, um, I mean, J-Dabb, okay, J-Dab likes a lot of, He likes black girls too. He likes Hispanic girls. Sonsi also likes his spanish girls. You said two as in like it's primarily Asian girls but then black girls as well. No, but I'm saying I'm giving different different.

You know what I mean? Different. And then. So I'm not wrong. I clocked your shit. No, that's not true. That's not true. Okay,

Yugi does. That's like the girlfriend because that's his girlfriend. That's my girlfriend. So I have to like it. Asian girls. Like I'm not. It would be crazy if he didn't like. Yeah.

That's kind of crazy. Yeah, I like black girls, but my girlfriend's Asian. Like doesn't make sense. Right. But like, For example, like, it's just a narrative that's spun just because, like, that's marketing.

Yeah, like, yeah, no, 100%. Okay, so maybe lean into that. Yeah. No, 100%. I mean, look at Jason. He did that. That's his whole career. Yeah.

But that's the thing. It's like a lot of people, it's like that's the narrative. But at that time, you got to understand. Like, for example, like you just said, like, Jason, right? This is obviously, side out to him. He helped all of us, right? But he, um. And Jason, ABGs?

No, no, no, no. Oh, my God. In our, in our, our road, our road. So it's like, for example, that's the narrative that's getting put out. But when we were grinding, we're trying to make OSCS bigger. What do audience, what does his audience like the most? What are they going to like? You know what I mean?

Obviously, you know what I mean? So our mind is, I try to think of it like this. I mostly can speak about mostly me and ARCII because I spend the most time with them. Yeah, yeah. Our minds are the same. We're like, okay, how can we maximize the amount of people that are watching this content? This is when we're coming up, of course. Right.

So we're like, okay, how can we do this? Make sure this stream hits. I mean, the chat loves Asian girls. So let's do that. I see. So that's the narrative being. Genius. I'm going to have more Asian girls on my stream.

But like at that time. I really like this advice. But I'm trying to say. That's what I need to do the breed life back into my. I'm trying to stale content. No, but I'm trying to tell you. I don't think I have enough. It's not.

It was just a narrative at the very beginning. Right. Because it's like, straight of Hormuz explained to Asian E-Girl. No, but like, what do you think? No, but I'm telling you. No, I would have to. No, no, no, no, but I'm telling you.

See, he's calling your ass out. You want the fuck out of that. It's not just bringing an Asian girl on the stream at that time. It was more so like, okay, how can we maximize the opportunity that we have and be smart with it and not just like, hey, you know what I mean? It's just what we thought. But that's what I mean. So what's what we're trying to do to OSCS? He's trying to cut a member, right?

Yeah. So, boom. I talked to Ludwig and, you know, I tell him about the group, you know, like, he knows, like, some of the group, but he didn't know all the members. Just like, how, like, Hassan could have name them all. So I was like, yeah. And then, like, we run into these problems. Like, some people, they stay up too late so we can't wake up early to get all the stuff done that we had planned. Some people, I stream too long.

Some people, um, don't stream enough. Some people, it's just not their, like, priority or, like, they, like, have a task and then they miss a task or, like, it's just, like, stuff like that. So he's all like. tighter ship. Yeah. But it's like we started off like as friends first. So it's like he got to like this weird line where we were like we all started off as friends like in a discord call that would just stream together. Yeah.

And then now like we have like a little bit more recognition and like responsibility because like we got nominated as like a top org. So not all like let's try to like step into that role and like really like level up. But then like it's just it was a big step for us. So like we're trying but we're just not fulfilling the shoes. So I came to Ludwig with those questions and he was. It's just like, yeah, like, if you're having these problems and people aren't doing these things or like they're not like meeting like the expectation, then like we should have the talk of like cutting people. So then like, yeah. Right.

Drama. Mm-hmm. So then that was drama. And then like that went like really good on the internet. Like everyone was talking about. Oh, yeah. Like I can't even name some people or you should kick this person or this and this and this. And then it was in there.

I was like, yo, you got to get sunny out. I was just that. No, I love sunny. That's what I was saying. That's what I was saying, because I was like, what Arki told me? No. Cut her out. But yeah, so then that became a whole thing. And then, yeah, we have a meeting with Ludwig coming up.

And he's going to, like, run OSCS for a day. And we're going to see how a little. That was the funny thing. The funny thing that I saw were people being like, blood doesn't get it. They came up as friends. Like, that's not how it works. All of Ludwig's employees are his friends.

Unfortunately, sometimes working with friends does not work. Sometimes they do take advantage of you. And it sucks. and it's horrible. It's one of the worst things that I think can happen to you, but Which is what Sonny's been doing to you wouldn't tell us. But like through that, you know, you have to prune and unfortunately like

that's just how it is. Like if they have you know, he has the yard with four of his best friends and it's like if someone's not showing up to it like then there's no show. So it's like you just can't you know, I mean they're obviously with four people, a podcast is a little

different than a group like But even OTV, that's a good example of a group with more than, they have a lot of people, and they'll do shoots where it's like, okay, we only need four here at this shoot, right? And so I, I'm guessing, if I, my guess is Ludwig's going to tell you that, you know, everyone's in charge of a certain shoot. Like if you guys are trying to do a shoot a month, that means ARCII gets December, you get January, whatever. Everyone's in charge of their own shit. Everyone shows up if you don't show up, you're cut, you know, like, because clearly you don't care. If you don't plan, then you don't care. True.

It's kind of that simple. Let's get back to it. Let's get back to extramar university. Okay. Because we're getting too inside baseball, I feel like. Right. I'm thinking about like our audience. Our audience is like, yeah. Our audience is a little confused.

They're like, why is no one talked about being gay? Yeah. So. Let's do it. Are any of you gay? Yeah. Me? You have to play the role awesome.

You're gay now. Okay. All right. Gotcha. All right. Nothing changed. I like that. That's very well.

You didn't change anything. No, but. No, what I was going to say is going back to Streamer University, this massive event, who was your favorite? I like that. Who is the shining star of Streamer University from your perspective as someone who watched it, as someone who experienced it last year as well? Yeah, I would say this year, like, I didn't have enough time to even spend with a lot of people. Like, I probably, like, briefly met people like five minutes each.

But I would say, like, in terms of stars, like, I would say, like, I met Suburb Baby a couple times before he got into Streamerabee. University and and then like I knew like he was gonna do good because he was how'd you meet him does he live in L.A.? No I met him at like the audition oh okay okay oh because you went to like all of them yeah or two of the three yeah and then I met him at though still didn't make it awkward yeah I didn't make it yes I knew that like he was like gonna do good because he came with a plan he was very like intentional so like supper baby is probably one of my favorites and then and then he came prepared like he had two cameramen really yeah So when one got tired, he got the other one in and then he kept going crazy.

That's cool. Yeah. So he came very prepared. He was very locked in and he was up early every day. Yeah, he was very at it. Way to go. And then there was another, there's a lady named Tanya. She's a streamer.

She was very funny. I only met her for like 10 minutes max. But I can just tell from meeting her that like she's a great streamer. Yeah, I never heard of her too. But I can tell her she was very good. She was very funny. and Yana, of course, she's just hilarious.

Right, yeah. And she's one of my good friends. And also, the guy who was doing all the cosplays, he was very funny. He was a movie. His name was like Juicy Jacob. He was like in the Silver Surfer. He was a caveman.

He was a, what else did he have? The Lorax. Yeah, yeah. I think he was different than the cat in the hat. The cat and hat was his friend. He was just the cat in the hat. Yeah. He was like Robin.

And they always played their character. Yeah, like he was so good to play his character. He never broke. He was on his phone. I could never. So like he realized that like him streaming himself on his phone wasn't that good. So he like committed to like just being very funny on other street. Wow.

And I think it worked well because I've seen them everywhere online. Like if you see like a person in a cosplay, it's probably him. Yeah. Yeah. So those are like some of the ones that stuck out to me a lot. That was smart of him. Yeah. What are you, Yugi?

My favorites? I would have to, yeah. I would have to say. Bro, you know this question is. Yougi, this was a good question. You're fine to answer this one. Yes. No, I mean, listen.

It's just there was, no, I just, I just, I meant more, I meant multiple. No, it's not that. I was trying to think why he was saying, but he was saying people that I agree with like, juicy. Juicy Jacob was good. No, juicy Jacob was good. Obviously, I'm like, I really love the, for example. I mean, I hung out around him the most. So I would say Yusuf was very good.

Usive seven. Was that your roommate? No, he wasn't my roommate. Oh, he was that? He was a, but Yusuf is like a streamer even before Schumer University. Yeah, he's like a known. He's the one with the with the hairline, right? Yeah, with a big, big forehead.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know him only as that. Yeah. I know him only as that. No, yeah, that was like his like main like Joe. Like, it's because he actually has a really big head. It's crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. Crazy kind of crazy. He's studied. Yeah. It's so. Atlanta. Yeah.

Atlanta. Yeah. He's a very cool guy. Yeah, I love. Like, thinking about streaming university is so hard to, like, kind of get yourself into the mojo sometimes, especially, that's why I don't kind of, I kind of understand the small streamers a bit, like, where it's like, yo, it's kind of, how do I explain it?

What's the word? I'm not very good with English. It's, like, intimidating. That's the word. Very intimidating. Very intimidating. To laugh at him. What is wrong with you?

I'm not very good with English. Wow. What language are you good at? No, I'm good at Spanish. Spanish, pretty good. You're not that good. No, you're not. But it's just very intimidating sometimes.

And not because it was intimidating to me, but sometimes it's like, like, I think we view, obviously me, Archie, we view like stream as an art. Like,

you know what I mean? Like deeper than what it is. So it's like if you try to unnaturally get yourself into, like a cut scene that they call it or like a scene, something that they could come off as like cringe or things like that. Okay. So I was looking at the, I was looking at some of the interactions.

And I was getting like secondhand. And not saying, hey, embarrassment necessarily, but I was, like, getting uncomfortable a little bit because, like, I've been in situations like that, obviously, back when I used to get invited to stuff, and I don't anymore. You're Trump adopting a lot of the podcast. That's a lot of big feelings.

Back when I used to get invited to stuff, I felt like, or actually, that's not even true. I was doing something with rage, right? And after our stream was over, went to this party, and it was all, like, younger streamers at this party, and everyone had their fucking phones out and everyone was streaming

and I was just like what the fuck is it I felt so goddamn old and I feel like in that situation there is like a level of discomfort that I have at least maybe it's something you get used to

after a while because like your generation every event that you guys do there's like 18 different cameras literally fucking streamer back in our day dude remember I I did seriously, dead ass back I did the very first shit camp

people argued with me and told me it was a bad idea to even have like like even to have multiple people stream in the day not even at the same time like I had someone do a breakfast stream and then they raided into the canoe stream and then they rated into whatever

because like number one it was always only one person could stream that was just the rule like it was the rule. Yeah. I would love that this year bro. No, but that's right. 50,000 viewers, bro. That's what I mean. That is so much, that is crazy.

It's smarter, I think. Well, actually, I don't even know. No, it's not. I don't. The new meta is better. Really? Yeah, because then it's mutually beneficial in like such a instant way. Yeah, but it's just like it's so, I don't know.

I guess you get used to it. Have you gotten used to it because you're old like me? Yeah, I've gotten used to it. And I see the benefit from it. But the thing is I'm also like a little old fashion. Like you guys, I mean, I'll go stream with Ron and I don't even care to spark up. Oh, okay. Good lingo.

Yeah. Like half the time half of the streams I've ever done with Jason I've never even gone live you know like I just I just I mean I'm a little Yeah I don't I never like when I'm when I'm collaborating with someone I never I never I never live bro But I've gotten better at it like I remember the last time I when I did something with adapt I was like is it okay if I go live too and he was like yeah no shit like of course Like it's very like and then I know now when I do my events like that's why like you know the charity concert I'm like whoever wants to stream it stream it because it's like we're just going to raise more money for charity True. Like, the worst case scenario is we get more eyes on it.

I don't care if it's on my. And that's what's good about being like, like, I have my career. I don't care about more eyes on me. I'm not a numbers focused person like I used to be. Like, I used to be like, oh, if I don't have this many viewers, I'm washed. And now I'm like, I'm fine, right? Like, I don't care how many viewers I have. So it's so if I haven't like, and there's been multiple times where I've had an event and Jason has more viewers than me and I did all the work for it, whatever.

Right? Like, I don't care. I like that. Let's just have a good time. I think that's a good mindset to have. If I can set up like a petri dish for fun and everyone can benefit from it, I think that's like, then I did what I enjoy,

right? That's just like the best thing to do, especially right now. I feel like a lot of people, at least obviously in our space is very young. It's so, so young. And when you get such like,

how do I say it? People love, how do I say? I think streaming right now is like, that's your quick way, not quick, sorry, but the easiest way to fame.

Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, that makes sense. It's the most accessible. Yeah. become famous, which I'm pretty sure everybody in this room or everybody who streams

is like, one day I want to be famous. I want to be a famous actor. I want to be this. I want to be famous. I had no ambitions of that. Well, that's clearly. When I started. Why? Why not? Me neither actually. Yeah. No, not even a little bit. It was different. It was just a hobby. Like dead ass. No, no, 100%. When I started, it was a hobby to make money. Even before I started streaming, like, you're saying in general, people like arrive a streaming, but they initially want to be famous.

Right? That's what you're saying. I didn't have that. When I first started, I was at the Young Turks. And I had a opinion. I don't think they know it Young Turks is. Young Turks is a news network. It's a YouTube news network back in the day. And I would write for the Huffington Post, which is a newspaper on the internet where people write articles and then people read them. I'm just.

They don't do that anymore. We're not that young. So I would do that because I was like, I have a political perspective. I want people to know about it. But I never was like, oh, I'm going to be fucking famous one day. And the reason why I started Twitch, the reason why I started Twitch streaming is because I just wanted to get better at off the cuff commentary. Because everything I was doing before then, I actually was scripting.

I was writing my scripts and then I would read through a teleprompter, like a news broadcast. So I wanted to get better at off the cuff commentary. That's why I started streaming. And then it just popped off. That's what I'm saying. But like nowadays, that's what I'm saying. Like I feel like everybody wants to be the talk of the town. Yeah.

I mean, I think we like at least me and Archie, maybe we've, we've, you know, you want to be for that speed. You want to be that Kai. And obviously that doesn't mean people have difference. Like, Arki wants to leave like a legacy. I want to live like a legacy. Maybe the person over there wants to, he wants to be rich. The person over there wants to, hey, he can average 500 years and he's good.

Like, there's different reasons people enter. But I think the main thing is like everybody, you guys could disagree with me on this as well. And I think I talked about it today on my stream is like, you are valued. I mean, you can sometimes view it like this, but you are valued with what you, like, how many viewers you bring. Like, for example, depending, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's the tail as old as time issue. The grass is green as take, but I feel like you're valued in a sense where, okay, if there's a thousand viewers streamer like... People treat you different.

Yeah, it's sad. How many viewers you got? Me? It varies. I say like a... I like to lowball myself, but I say like, you know, 1,0005, 2,000. We're not collabing anymore. You know what I mean?

But no, but people are actually like that. Like, you got to think. You know what I mean? People are actually like that and stuff. And I think, no,

you guys are actually pretty, pretty cool. You guys are pretty cool. No. Don't say you guys. I'm different. You're especially cute. It's amazing.

Yeah. Have you? Don't love me in with the song. You got to start having talks about you. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't give a fuck. I'm collaborating with A.

I'm collaborating with Arkey. What does that mean? What the fuck? That street did amazing, by the way. I just kind of want to put that out there. I will say a lot of people don't give Hassan credit. If you go to Hassan with an idea, he almost will never say no. Yeah, I'm always down.

He's actually down. Like, no one, just nobody asks. I did not know that. I cannot think of one time in my entire career that Hassan said no to me. Yeah. Yeah, bro, I got to start messaging you more than that. No, yeah. He don't do anything.

He really will. Especially if it's like, especially if it's in the afternoon or if it's in the weekend, I will always say yes. Yeah. Because, like, I have my Monday through Thursday. is like prime time for me, right? I got my news because my audience is definitely a little bit different than the rest of course. Yeah.

So I have my primetime news broadcast from like Monday 11 to, you know, it's usually 11 to 5 p.m. 11 to 6 p.m. That's like prime time. And then anything outside of that and I can just do it after like 3 p.m. 4 p.m. 2 during the weekdays as well. And then anything outside of that, I'm totally down. I did not know that. You seem like a very busy guy, which you probably are.

I am a busy guy. He is busy, but he makes time for people. People don't realize. I appreciate that, as well. No, yeah. I was surprised when, like, I messaged you with, like, the stream idea and everything, that you were just down. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah.

What is the... Okay, behind the paywall, we're going to... Because we're at time right now. What do you guys want to promote? But I'm going to ask you as a question, what do you... What was your opinion of me then? Jesus Christ, because I want to know... I think you're ugly.

Behind the paywall, well, we know cutie's opinion of me. At patreon.com, slash fear. And also, what do you guys want to promote? My name is Arki. Check me out. My name is Yugi 2X. 2X. Yeah, we got to get that change, so you're easier to find. I asked you months.

I asked you months ago, but... You asked me? Was it you or or blau? Damn, that's a really big... Wow. That's a very big difference. What the fuck? What the fuck?

No, no. No, no, yeah, no. I think I wanted to ask you and I never asked them. Yeah, I've been... I don't play me out. Which I owe you a baking stream for like five years now. No, no. That's one of the funniest joke in my stream.

We're going to have baking streams soon. But, okay. But the person is banned, the one that has my name. But he's been banned for like a year and something. I'm sure we can get it. You want me? I'll ask. That'll be so cool.

I'll ask. I'll ask. Because nobody knows, I guess that's my community name, but like nobody knows me as like Yugi 2X. Yeah, Yugi 2X. Okay. Check them out on Twitch and tell them specifically you watch them on Fear And. Okay.

We want the Fearan fans. This was a very. Twitch, uh, heavy episode. We usually don't talk this much about streaming. No. Yeah. Not even a little bit. I don't think we ever talk about streaming. Because once again, our audience is like a little bit not, I wouldn't even say older necessarily, but like definitely not as invested in the Twitch sphere. More pop culture. Yeah. Let's talk about pop culture. We will. We have an hour. We have one more hour. We're going to go and we're going to talk some more. So see you guys there. I think it's because you're wearing a suit, but I've liked the whole.

like three of us ganging up against you. It's been awesome. That's not true. Austin has a crush on you and Will usually takes your side. That's sometimes. Oh, two members are missing. Yeah. Yeah. You don't even know who's on the podcast normally?

Who's on the podcast? Dude. That's crazy. Well, now he knows. Because he just said up. No, yeah, definitely Austin. I'm going to be honest. I feel so bad. I didn't know Will was part of this here. That's crazy. I feel so terrible. Because I'm going to be honest, I was like, what's a good fit?

You know, because I was, I'm like a lot, I might have put on a good sweater or something, but I went back to one of the odds episodes and QD was wearing like a striped pajamas. So that's why I decided to come like this. I'm gonna be completely honest. You put it. You put a nice fit on and then you saw Cudy and you're like, I was like you know what? She's wearing comfortable. I roll up. We're lucky if I roll up. That's not true. You've got I don't have been throwing fits lately. Like this episode excluded.