Fear& - THE POLITICAL SUPERBOWL Ft. Jennifer Welch & Brace Belden | Fear&

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

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Oh. He's got to avoid the anti-Semitic stuff. Yeah, yeah. I always comment on a woman's appearance. Me too, but they don't like it. Really? Oh, I love it. No, I love it.

Did you know I was gay? Could I tell by looking at you? Yes. Really? Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another fabulous episode of the Fear Ann Potters, of the Fear and Podcast, or we have two very, very special guests. That's right.

I'm going to do the first introduction for my good friend who is on, may or may not be on some terror watch list right now, shout out to the Turkish government. No? No. Not any longer. No. No, no.

I'm a man of peace. I change my game. I take it back. You might know him as a man of many talents, a man of many names, Pisspick, Grandad, Racial Jake, the gay pussy eater. Oh, my God. Liberal Hitler has his new name. You can have it.

True and on very own, I like to call him, Trinon's very own investigative journalist, which he absolutely despises that title more than anything else. A man who went on a journey throughout his entire life. That's true. A man who went on a massive journey to Rojava to go fight against ISIS, came back, assaulted his union in San Francisco. then the, well, the brewery is not doing too great.

Listen, we don't get, but owned by a current. And neither is Rojoa, as a matter of fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything I touches turns to shit. But, Brace Bellden, ladies and gentlemen, very excited to have him here. And ladies and gentlemen, to my left. Better be better than it sounds in true.

One of the most beautiful, gorgeous women. On top of that, one of the most accomplished political commentators of our generation. She's the host of the I've Had It podcast. She also had a profession way before this. She left all that behind. She doesn't even need it anymore. She is now here doing politics.

I've had it. She does it all. She's very famous in the gay community. A lot of people know her. Everybody knows. She's famous with your mothers. Yes. Right?

She has raised a family. I have. You've raised a family. Two beautiful children. Thank you. Beautiful children. Thank you. And you've done a hell of a job.

Thank you. You've done a hell of a job. I've never, I haven't fought ISIS. No, you haven't done that. But I fought carpal lines. That's right. In the state of Oklahoma,

you live in a red state. Which is kind of like fighting ice. Excuse me. It doesn't really is. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to welcome to the podcast, Jennifer Welch. Thank you.

Thank you for having. So he gave you such a wonderful intro. I had to try to. I think it's interesting that you thought it was okay to comment on a woman's appearance. Really? Well, I'm a great.

Interesting that you didn't think it was okay to comment on mine. Oh. He's got to avoid the anti-Semitic stuff. Yeah, yeah. Describe me without laughing. I always comment on a woman's appearance. Me too, but they don't like it. Really?

I love it. He's gay. Now I love it. Did you know I was gay? Could I tell by looking at you? Yes. Really? Wow.

That's new. Is that wrong? No. I don't think. Did you get a gay d'ar pink? No, that's interesting. It wasn't a pink. It was like, blu-da-o- I don't usually get that.

Yeah, he doesn't have gay face. Was it maybe the outer face? Is it maybe the outfit that I was wearing? Yes, but that's also like... It's the jacket. But he would shut that motherfucker off most of the time. You really think so? Yeah, well, right now he's kind of dressed like Latino, but it's...

Yeah, I... It's his bad bunny look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You're giving bad bunny today. I had a thank you very much for saying that, but I was looking at old bad bunny photos, actually. We were on the way over here. I don't know why, but... It's kind of gay.

Yeah, that's crazy. He used to, he started looking like me, okay? I know that that's a ridiculous thing to say because he's an infinitely more successful and way cooler person. But I've had this look for many years at this point. Bad Bunny's old look was disastrous. And then he grew his hair out. And then he started, you know, people started saying, oh, you kind of look like Bad Bunny.

It was like, oh, great. But I was there beforehand. Let me ask you this. Do you have any evidence at all that Bad Bunny knows who you are? No, no. I'm saying it's totally, totally random that he like went in that direction. I wasn't saying I influenced them or anything. I'm just saying he has no idea who I am. No, of course not. He knows. Are you going to watch the Bad Bunny or the Kid Rock Super Bowl?

I'll be honest. I am going to watch the Kid Rock. Wait, Kid Rock's doing his own Super Bowl. It's turning point is having their own Super Bowl. Oh my God. Erica Kurt got another babysitter for it. I cannot wait. The morning continues. My God.

The lineup is incredible. So, Hassan, they really want him to be homosexual. Like, people are desperately like, they want him to be gay. But he's just, he couldn't be farther from gay than I've ever met. I think he could be farther. No. He's very, very, very, very straight. He just says that because he's worried that like, if I, if I encroached in his territory, he would never,

he would not have a single. twink look at him ever again. It's not true. It's not true. I'm very confident in myself. And this man, not everybody likes, not every gay man likes a man who's six, four,

with big muscles and beautiful facial structure. Really? Not everybody likes that. I haven't met any that don't like that. Well, you know what? They're out there. I'll say this. Some of them also are willing to accept other things. Exactly.

That's it. Very well-picked. Very well-put. You know what? You know what? I don't know if you guys know this, but Jen and Pumps are going to the GLAD Awards. We're nominated for a GLAD Award. You're nominated for a GLAD Award.

Best Podcast episode. And it's called, what's the name of that episode, Kylie? Gay Excellence. You know, hold on. I'm gay and I'm not nominated for shit. I'm a better ally than you are gay. I'm a greater ally than you are gay. I'm a greater ally than you.

And he is homo. True. Clearly. Because the gays have kind of, the gay guys have kind of betrayed our cause. Yes. The ally cause. Oh, wait. In what way?

Well, I mean, I feel like there's just been a lot of concessions made to like the right wing. Famously, a lot of guys in the administration are gay. Yeah. And sometimes I feel like. These are the demon queens. Oh, interesting. These are the demon queens. Like, I think you have like the gays who do what they need to do.

And then you have the demon queens, like that old queen that runs the Kennedy Center and drove it into the ground. And then you have the D.L. Demon Queens. That's the Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio. I believe J.D. Vance, he thinks J.D. Vance is a prostitute, which I have to concede, he totally is. But there's a DL. Demon Queen. Josh Hawley.

Oh, that guy has gay face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has gay face. And he is gay pex. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a little outside my general. Josh Holly has gay body.

Have you seen the pecks? Have you seen the image of him trying to kiss his wife? Yes, like a K drama. Yeah. And then have you further seen the engagement photo announcement of him standing in the end zone with Harrison Bucker, the kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs, the guy that said, women, you need to embrace your role as homemakers? Yeah. And there is this photograph of the two of them that looks like Austin and a twink in the end zone,

dolled to the nines. I've never looked at someone like that. It's a gayest thing I've ever seen. He is in love with Harrison Butt Kicker or butt kiss or whatever his fucking name is. Fuck that guy. I hope he misses every fucking field goal. Yeah, you tell.

I will. Anyway, Hassan, I was on the red carpet at the Grammys. I got to interview Paris Hilton and Reba McIntyre. A little name-dropping. Yeah, Gloria Estefan. You know, I've named after. Just those three? Michelle Obama.

Don't love Don. No, he, don't lie. You couldn't get Don't get Don't. But I couldn't get done. Don was being cut. Yeah, Will I Am, who's really into AI, which made for a very awkward conversation. That sounds like amazing.

But anyway, during the GLAD Awards, they were like, you know, Hassan, is Hassan gonna come to the GLAD Awards? And I told them he's not allowed. I said no. I would go to the GLAD Awards. I told him, yeah, but he would steal my thunder. That's crazy that you literally cut me.

So selfishly, I had to cut him from the roster. I said, I'm sorry, you can't make it. You blacklisted Hassan from the Glad Awards. I told the guy from the Gladde Awards, I said, Hassan's very busy that week. And he says, he says the word in private. Yes, he does. Well, that's, I absolutely started saying.

I said, I pulled Anthony aside. I don't think they would stop the, I don't think that would stop them from inviting me. You don't think so? You'd think that would send? They'd be like, he's done a lot. Okay, is it true, Hassan that you, big time, Don Lemon, like he called you to have you on,

and then you kind of big time, McNorris call slash text? Yes or no? Where is this coming from? Where, how do you know this? Huh? I just heard about it. That's crazy.

Did he call you from jail? Listen, I am very good friends with Don Lemon. Don Lemon's husband is my realtor in New York. I know things straight from the feck and horse's mouth. Maybe. What do you think the horse's mouth is? Did you big time Don Lemon, yes or no? I did not big time him.

We had a scheduling conflict and it didn't work out. But this was long before he became the, you know, press hero. Right. But, um, this is like, how much do you regret that decision now? No, I mean, I'm still, we're still working on answering your calls. We're still working on making something happen. Do you want me to help you?

Yeah, I'd love to have Dom. Is he still in the who scale? In the what? In the who's, in the clink. No, no, he's out. He should have done a couple weeks in there. He's back in New York. Yeah.

I think, yeah. He comes out like Lula. That's what I'm saying. Get in there, like get jacked. Yeah. Did you see that all. them memes, though, they were so great of Don with his husband, Tim.

I mean, fabulous memes. Have you seen it on your gay TikTok? No, I mostly see schizophrenic people on my Instagram. His Instagram, we don't have to tell about that. Our Instagram Explorer pages are, well, yours is worse than mine.

It's really not. I got a Charlie Kirk song in Spanish yesterday. What is your, what is your, what is your, oh, I said one. I don't know. Let's all do a reveal. Is there a way to throw to, to hear something so we can look at it.

Let's see. Because I want to send Austin. Yeah. Mine's excellent. I've got tennis players. There's Zoron, interior design, French Bulldogs. Wow, that is actually, that's a very dignified kind of Instagram. Look at that.

Look at how great that is. Let's see my. Austin, remember the song I sent you? Yes. That's what, like, that's my, that's my Explorer page. I built it brick by brick. And it's all like, planes.

What's the deal with planes? I'm a big plane guy. Oh, you are? I'm a big plane guy. I love planes. What about pilots? You know, I haven't, I'm not really like a big,

I'm more of a flight attendant guy. Oh, really? Yeah, I really like flight attendants. The pilots, there's a darkness. I feel like, I feel like, I want to be the pilot. You know, I want to be the captain. I've had a fantasy. You're a dom.

I would be the captain. And then, like, I would be. Mile High Club with the flight attendant. my flight attendants. Yeah. In a dominating sort of way? 100%. That's your jam, isn't it?

It is my jam. Yeah. Right. It is absolutely my jam. One day I'm gonna career change. Mark, I'm gonna know why. Super hot pilot.

So you get on a plane. So we can watch it. You're flying 10, 12 hours somewhere. Super hot pilot. I mean, hot. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Okay, hypothetical.

You get on a plane, super hot pilot, hot as shit, 12 hour flight. You all are eyeing each other. He goes out to go to get the restroom. He's eyeing you. He's big, he's dominant, all of the things. And then he turns on autopilot.

And he's kind of like, do you go or not? You're in first class fluffed up in a chair. And the dominant pilot wants to be with me. Dominant hot as balls, 12 out of 10 pilot. And he nudges you. For the first time. You know what? In air.

You know what? Mile high bottoming. Abs of fucking looting. He's lying. Yeah. Because I think I'll, be honest, I think that even you guys would probably say yes to that. What a fucking story.

Exactly. Plus, I can sue him. Yeah. Yeah. What an incredible story. You're like, this guy could have crashed us. The Malaysian Airlines thing? That's what that guy was doing. Where is that plane? Oh my God. It is in the ocean. I read a lot about this. Yeah, it's in the ocean. Was it a suicide mission? The guy, one of the pilots, I think he turned off the air.

Everybody went asleep forever. And he just drove that motherfucker. Yeah. So this is what happens. So in a plane, you can turn off the packs, which are the oxygen pass. And pilots have access to supplemental oxygen on their own. So they have oxygen in the cockpit. But you can turn off the packs and people in the back won't even know what hit them and they'll slowly just die. It's kind of a peaceful way to go out.

They all just basically what I think happened is he turned off his transponder, which is like a thing that transmits signal to the air traffic control so they can see you on the map. Same thing. what happened on 9-11, the terrorists turn off the transponder. So this guy turns off the transponder, turns off the path, turns off the packs, everybody dies in the back. He does this at the same time that one of the pilots

uses the restroom, right? So he's the only one in the cockpit. So you lock that pilot out? Lock the pilot out, turn off the packs, everybody suffocates back there, can't do shit, can't get in the cockpit, it's like reinforced Kevlar. Yeah. You, and then he just flies it slowly until it runs out of fuel and just flies it

peacefully into the ocean and kills everybody. Do you think he's alive when that happens? or do you think he's cut his oxygen? I think he's alive. I think he's alive too. He flew it quite of ways. Yeah, it was, it was flown for hours.

I mean, but there is a chance that like it just, he set a waypoint on the autopilot and it just eventually just kind of slowly crashed as well. He could have killed himself that way. Because it was in the middle of the ocean that went down. Yeah. Yeah. So it could have just literally just,

he directed it to the middle of the ocean. It was the layer of, I mean, I get suicide, but the, the homicidal like mass killing of everybody else. Well, Well, the guy that happened in Europe not too long ago, too. Yeah, the German wings.

Yeah, Airbus. Yeah, the co-pilot goes to the bathroom. He's like, mountain time. Yeah, pound it. And so... That one's horrible. This is one thing. I mean, we give the U.S. government a lot of shit on this podcast.

But I will say, one of the best things that they did, the FAA, mandated that the pilot, not one singular pilot, they did this right after 9-11. Not one singular pilot can be alone in the cockpit at the time. This is why every time you're on a flight, they do the whole charade, the flight. the flight attendants come and act as a body shield in case somebody's going to rush the cockpit. One flight attendant goes in, one pilot comes out

because after 9-11, I'm sure they had intelligence to suggest that, you know, one pilot, nobody can be alone at the cockpit at any given time. Yeah, they're trying to change that, by the way. What? Yes. Wait, yes.

I know what they're trying to do. They're trying to build a reinforced door between the... No, no, no. They're also trying to lower that restriction. Why? One pilot. What do you mean?

Why? It's cheaper. How is it cheaper? They still have to be there. I'll be honest. I can operate a commercial jet by myself. No, I get that. It's cheaper to fly. It's cheaper to fly with one pilot the entire way. So they're trying to lower that restriction to like, to certain flights where there's only one pilot in the cockpit and shouts out to Sarah Nelson, who is the head of the. She's amazing. You got to have her on. I have no idea. She's incredible. I will. The flight attendants union, like she's the head of the union. She's a tough. That's not a serious thing. There's no way. No, no, this is a real... You can't do that. Dog, I'm telling you, what do you mean? It's like a real initiative that airliners have been advocating for to lower costs

so they don't have to hire as many pilots. I don't understand that. They want to lower the contingency of having two pilots in the cockpit at all times, and they're trying to loosen that restriction. And the last line of defense is the labor unions, once again. I will say that means I'm one step closer to my hero fantasy. That's... Of you taking over?

How many flying hours? do you have? Well, technically zero. Okay. But this is how you said technically. But FAA recognizes the hours that I flew in those flight simulators. So I've got about probably about 15 hours in the 737, 800 and about 15 to 20 hours in the A320. So I've got about 30.

And I'm about to put in four hours on the 747 this weekend. FAA certified full motion training simulators. They recognize those hours in those training simulators as real flight hours. This is something you do like for joy? Yes. Yeah, he's super autistic about it. Pretty bitch. It's a really butch development in your character.

It is, yeah. Have you read these stats they asked a group of heterosexual men? Do you think you could land a commercial area? And it was so ridiculously high. It was... Yes. Have you seen this? These things pretty much land themselves.

It's true. But... You know, I got an argument. I don't think I could do it, but I think that I could... I mean, I'm not saying it couldn't do it. You can give it a good go. I want to say that I had gotten an argument with the chatter about this. because they were telling me, Austin,

I'm one of the heterosexual, well, I'm not a heterosexual, what the fuck? I'm so sorry. I was such a mistake. I'm a homosexual, but I answered, I answered that in the poll. I said, I can do it. And I even signed up, there was this video, like they were testing people, and I wanted to, like, go in there and do it.

Anyway, I'm one of the people that said, yes, you're right, the planes are automated, but there's a lot of intervention that you need to. You would not be able to do it. Even if it's automated, you wouldn't be able to do it because there's so many things. Of course I can. First of all, anything's possible with God.

Absolutely. Anything is possible with God. I am so confident. I am so confident that I could do it. His brother is a pilot for a Cessna. My brother has his pilot's license. He has his pilot's license. We are in a situation where his brother and I, Marat,

were on a plane together and both pilots died at the same time for some reason. Or Hassan was the terrorist. Yeah, or something, which would make sense. Yeah, which is on brand. Or maybe they had diarrhea. Right. Something like dysentery. Dissentary.

Completely dehydrated. Dizzy. Can't see. Down. Yeah. They ate. Yeah, whatever. I believe that I am more qualified

to fly that commercial jet than his brother because his brother has only been trained on those little GA planes. And he has no idea how to operate and has zero understanding of the systems of a seven-th century. Is this the brother whose wedding you didn't go to? Yes. Yes. And also the brother who has built that plane that he's talking about. Oh, because he lived in Oklahoma.

Oklahoma City. Yeah. And he works for Boeing. Yeah. He literally built it. Just because he built it doesn't mean he fucking knows how to fly it. Do you think this is delusions of grandeurs? Yes.

You've been in the real flight simulator that you act? Yes. It's like the whole thing. Yes. The whole thing. Every stage of flight. I am straight up taking off. Every stage of flight.

I'm not saying that for religious reasons that I'm not letting your mother land this plane. I'm not, I just want to be clear. I'm not saying it for religious reasons. What was interesting is. I will say is that I am trusting. somebody who is who is has cared enough about the art of flying to move up to something bigger than sassette i hate small it was interesting hasan he builds the big planes well they don't build them well famously boeing yeah that they've had some problems that's it

was against him i would argue that you know that was a that that that whole case you know i think boeing's cleaned up their act they're very safe planes um well the problem with that is that they're downsizing that's why they're always like cutting corners and that's for And you know what I've learned? Take place in the production side. So I, I, I, I don't know much about me probably, but I was a, I'm a recovering liberal. I was really into, I'm just getting into it.

Yeah, oh, you're just getting into liberalism? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get liberal Hitler. It's really good, that shit is good. I'm like to lip out, yeah. It's good. So, um, but what I've learned is that the only thing keeping you safe is like regulations.

Like the only thing keeping you safe regulations. Like corporations will do everything to maximize profits. So like you, that's the only thing. Like the only reason you're safe is because of regulations. Which is why the Democrats should start calling them consumer protections. Yes. Because they are there to protect the consumer. They're really protections. Yeah. I've got a strategy for those of you out there. When you're trying to, when you are trying to seek compensation from a company, you need to leverage the fear that they have of getting sued against them. Let me give you an example.

Let's see you have a rental car. You've rented a car from Hertz or something like that, right? And you're like, oh, fuck, I want to return it to another location. Well, Hertz is going to charge you $300. Oh, yeah. Right? Right? They're going to charge you $300 because you want to return it to another location.

Why don't you call up Hertz and say, you know what hurts? It just feels like I hear a weird sound or something in the car. And I don't feel safe driving this vehicle. I'd like to return it to the closest rental car station. What are they going to say? No. Have you done this? Yes, many times.

And it works? Every time. So, can I just apply this further? In any product that I use temporarily, I can just call whoever's doing it and be like, I don't know about this. Rental cars, and the reason I feel completely shameless about this is rental car companies are some of the most predatory institutions on the planet. I have a great title for your memoir.

What's that? How to land a commercial. airplane and skirt the system by Austin Show. That's it. I love that. It's fantastic. Is it, are people gonna drag me for- I have another one? Are people gonna drive you?

Okay, I'll get your suggestion. Okay. Gay con man. Yes. Yeah. That's the one I think. But I'm just saying, try it, folks. If you're like in a pinch and you're like,

oh fuck, I booked a ticket out of Miami instead of Fort Lauderdale, I don't wanna drive all the way up there again. You know what I mean? Oh shit. Or at the end of every month, just dispute every single credit, car. That's what I've been doing for like five or six years. I didn't buy that. What are you crazy?

Look. My wallet gets stolen often because I'm too trusting of a person. So they're punishing me for being nice and leaving my wallet places. I want them to be on record here and say that every time I've done this, I've been seriously concerned about my safety. Of course. I've been seriously concerned about my safety and some of these rental cars, they're just not safe. And I felt very So I had to return it early and I don't think I should be penalized for that. And the reason it smells like cigarettes is because I was smoking, which is a way that I deal with anxiety, which is a mental illness that I have. And it is illegal to prosecute me for doing that. I fight for the consumer. And I think more, I think as consumers, if we really, he disagrees

with me on this. I'm, I fight for the consumer. I don't disagree with you on this. I just think that you make it seem like you're a civil rights advocate. And I, I'm going to be honest. I feel. I feel like if you were going to make it as a civil rights advocate in 2026, being like nickel and diming your way out of charges from like Hertz Manor car is probably the way to go. I'm telling you took this far like a little bit further. You probably could be the most famous man. He brought up the CIA's like or the OSS is sabotage manuals right to be like see this is how they were combating fascism initially in Europe. Oh you might be a genius. I'm telling you. I'm crazy. I'm telling you. No, the OSS. We looked at this. We looked at this. We looked at this.

sabotage manual and it was about like lighting office buildings on fire. Yeah, for insurance. I'll be honest, have you heard of this manual? So like in in Nazi controlled France, I believe the OSS manual was written as like a guideline for people to sort of disrupt the mechanisms of fascism. It basically pranks. Right, right. Little little things like subtle things. Yeah, they were dumping sugar into the cement to make sure that the building couldn't have a foundation. Not not like offering petty grievances But that was in the 40s. We've sort of modernized the manual, right? Yeah.

And now it manifests in, hey, I have a, I hear a clunking sound in my... It's manifested into Karenism. Yes, it's Karenism. It's white hat Karenism. White hat Karenism. Resort fee.

Like, what the fuck? What the fuck is in a resort fee? The fuck, $35 a day out. I thought that was the charge for the resort. And Mondami is taking a play out of my fucking playbook. He is banning surprise fees for hotels and stuff. When you go to a hotel,

you are a family that worked your ass off to work in New York City on vacation. I'm trying to visit my daughter's polychule. Exactly. Or a skilled pilot, gay man. Entertaining his tween. It's right. Either way.

And I budgeted for this vacation in New York and all of a sudden there's a surprise fee all of a sudden I can't afford to eat. And you can't afford the $26 per night? Yes. Okay, no Bubba Gump's Time Square. Yeah. Exactly.

No, no, no. How about we get a can of wrinkles? We all have one. It's true. We use the thing as a cup. If you are a business or you should not be, part of your business model should not be conning consumers out of extra fees. I mean, that is literally what the business is.

That's pretty much like, yeah. That's all businesses. No, not all of them. Think about how they make money in the first place. I mean, they just, you work all that. Yeah, oh, you work all that for them and they only pay you all this. But I believe that. I believe I'd be very successful.

So there's been a, recently he was asked by, you were talking with somebody in Qatar that asked you why he doesn't run for office or something like this. Oh, Janus Verkanakis. Like, he had a good time doing it. Yeah, no, he literally did say that. He was like, I did it and it was not good. Yeah, so I've actually, in the comment section, top comment,

somebody said, I would be. Oh, you're in my, you're in my replies. I was looking for affirmation. requested by his community to be the one that would run for office. Will you? You know, at this moment in time, I cannot confirm, nor deny, nor deny my plans to run for office. For 28.

Right, 28. I'm not old enough in 28, but 32, I'll be old enough to run for office. That was the meanest fucking thing you've said. What? The whole podcast. You're not old enough to run for president. How do you think that makes a son feel? No, no, no.

I'm younger than him. You are? No, he's not. No, I know. Look how shocked she look. She was not. He's 37 today. Okay.

Happy birthday. Yeah, not 37. What's wrong with being 30s? I'm 34 and nothing. Yeah, you're 36. You see, I thought you were younger than he was. I've been, I've been doing a lot of experimental peptides. Really?

Were you going to show us? Heson, were you going to show us your four-you page? We can watch this. I mean, the time has passed, but my explore page I built break by brick. Thank you for giving us on track. And one of the things that I love personally is, Christian musicians.

Oh my God. That's my worst nightmare. Oh, I love it. Oh, I love it. I love the mentality behind it. I love the work that goes into it. I love the art, honestly. I'm a big fan.

So let's hear, this is the one I said to Austin. I was like, look at this shit. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Okay, we can pause it. Can I be, yeah. We don't need to hear that. Can I be honest?

I think we need to start calling people like that. I'm going to be honest. Actually, I'll think my next thought. I'll think my next thought. But I'm not exactly, I'm getting a little bit of gender confusion by the hair. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just going to put it like that.

It's just like. So does he have a gun in his hands? Yeah, he does. Because like, you know, I think there's. But he's not for real. I mean, clearly this is. No, it's serious. There's things happening.

I, listen, I also watch a lot of homophobic Christian rap by young white men. There's a huge. There is a huge. I believe one of the guys that followed did have his child taken away from him because he had also had his child rap about things of this nature. Oh, yeah. Wait, is it the 13-year-old? No.

Yeah, the 13-year-old was taken from his father. No fucking way. But that just proves how dedicated he is to homophobia. No matter how you follow the topic, we do like to see somebody passion. Okay, okay, you know who, you know who, okay, new conspiracy, I know who took it. It was Rock Nation.

It was Rock Nation. It was like, this kid is good. Yes. This kid is good because that one I saw and he's like, oh, I'm 13 and I hate the gays. He rhymed very well. Yeah, he did. I mean, it was fire.

It was going viral on Twitter. And his, but his dad, uh, his dad, so I, I, are you familiar with, like, kind of maga rap world at all? No. So. Forgey Otto Blow? So, you know how Trump just like show tunes and classical music and stuff like that? Like Mariah Carey or, not about it.

But like, he likes, you know, sort of, he likes, you know, sort of, he likes Andrew Lloyd Webber. Yes, he loves Andrew Lloyd Weber. Because he's an old queen. Yeah. Yes. But he wanted to be a Broadway producer. This sort of, because of his move. to Florida, there has been sort of

a Floridian turn to the Trump to Trump world and Tom McDonald I think is a great example of this. His biggest L is that he's Canadian, so he's not like... A lot of these gentlemen are ND Canadian. Forge Yotto Blow is spiritually Canadian even though he is from Florida. He is very much from Florida. But Forgeado Blow also told

someone I know that he's like, I don't care about Trump at all. It's just all these kind of older white people start giving me money once I started rapping about how cool he is. But like Tom McDonald, for example, is Yeah, he's a really good Charlie Kirk song. Wait, let's give it a listen. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think it's time.

I think we should. I can't believe he's not at halftime. Oh, what the hell? Oh, they didn't, wait. They snubbed him. They snubbed him. They snubbed him, they got kid rock, but not Tom. A gay man in the commercial before the video.

It's hot. Oh, bucket heads. Yesterday in a violent act of cowardice, an assassin took Charlie Kirk's life. My heart goes out to his wife and two children as millions of loyal supporters, all proceeds from this song will be done. Kind of sounds like Macalmore. Wackle of him.

He's looking up. Oh my god. They're looking up. They're talking to Americans. I don't know if you can see us now. But if heaven has a window, I sure hope you're looking down. Because we ain't going quiet. He's looking up.

Oh, my God. So disturbing. Oh, it's very much. Okay, question regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination. Yeah. The text messages that the FBI produced where it's like, my love,

da-da-da-da. Manufactured or real? I think they're so stupid that I'm like, oh, they're so... They're so tactical. Yeah, they're very tactical. I think that they totally cooked them. I think that they're real.

No, I think they're the real. But I do? You think they're the real text messages? Because I saw, I, when I first saw it and he was like referring to like, uh, officer, squad cars or something. Referring to cop cars as like, you know, officer-bound vehicles or whatever.

Like he was doing tactical cop speak. I was like, oh, this is like a 45-year-old FBI agent wrote this, right? But then there was a video that came out of him getting into like an altercation and talking to a cop where I think he was like a witness to a car crash or something. Oh, yeah, I've seen that. And he was talking to a cop and I was like, oh, he's just Mormon. He just talks like that. No, he literally was talking to the cop

like years prior to this incident. He was talking to a cop and he was using similar language. I will say that the, so today there was unfortunately another defection of a minor TPSA personality from TPSA over to the Candace Owens camp. Oh, I have, listen. Another clandestine operator. I don't like to talk about women like this,

especially two women. Okay. But I would, I would commit a minor acts of genocide for 10 minutes with Candace Owens. Really? Oh, major. I mean, I would, I would for a mutual massage close on. You folded under zero pressure.

You went for minor to major action. I mean, I just want to be honest here. I think she is beautiful, scrumptious, even. Is she like number one in the spank bank for you? There is no spank bang. I don't do that to get my cheat. It's like a cheat thing. But I do, I do.

That is such a. I think about her fondly often. Yeah. And I watch her as often as I can. Do you? Yeah, because she's the most famous crazy person. Yeah. I think.

Or like, what is she, is she, has she yet linked to, she's linked it? Within days, she linked it. Because it was,

because her original thing was, okay, Charlie was killed by Israel, by like the Jews, but then, and it was Israel, and then it was also like maybe just Jews within TEP USA,

especially crypto Jews, who are pretending to be Protestants. That's a big thing in the neo-Nazi circles is suspected Jews. Suspected Jews. And sometimes they'll be like, oh, because, you know, this Christian married a Jewish woman. So therefore they're basically, you know, Jewish now

because their children are Jewish. But sometimes there's no connection whatsoever and they'll just be like, no, that person is actually secretly Jewish. Sometimes even if someone has a German last name. A Jewish tequila, if you will. A Jewish tequila. Yes. So she was like, okay.

It was Israel that did it. But then she was looking at the footage more. I love what she looks at footage. I love when she's interested in something. She looks at the footage more and she notices that several members of what turned out to be, I believe the rugby team of the school were wearing maroon shirts. And she was like, actually,

these are members of the French Foreign Legion. Yes. Deployed by Emmanuel Macron. And of course his, you know, gender non-conforming wife. let's say, Brigitte in order. I don't know why they would kill Charlie instead of Candice, but she also says that she was warned. She kind of dropped this,

but she was also like, I was warned cryptically by a TPSA higher up that I was going to be assassinated and then Charlie Kirk was assassinated. What about the most recent one about that Charlie's a time traveler? Well, okay. What's going on there? So she has trouble,

so Candace first came to prominence because she made a doxing website but she didn't know what the word docks. And this was during an incident that I'm sure both these gentlemen were involved with possibly on opposite sides called GamerGate where gamers went crazy I don't know how to explain it more than that but gamers went crazy. Yeah, they just got really invested in like an Armenian Woman by the name of Anita Sarcassian who they thought was destroying gaming by making it more women friendly I mean she was she was but uh what was this called I'm gonna text my son ask your son which side he was on what side I don't even know I'm kidding.

She wasn't just trying to. I think most people don't know, but it was really big for crazy people on the internet. He might know because he's very into gaming. What side were you on during GamerGate? During GamerGate. Ask your son that. The one that's a fan of mine might know. But even that.

It's the one that's a fan of yours. If he says he's on the side of the gamers, you got to have a talk with it. I'll tell you this. He's good now. When this was actually occurring? When did this happen? Like 2014 onward until like 2020. I had just, yes.

I believe, because I remember I had just, I had been on heroin for a number of years. And I stopped being in it. You did heroin? It's really bad. He did everything. I can't imagine that heroin is like a, people do it because it doesn't feel good. Exactly. You know what I mean? Exactly.

There's got to be something to it. How did you get off of it? Did you take, what's it called? Suboxone. Suboxin? I have taken Suboxin to, to lesser and greater effect. Are you on it now? Suboxone.

No, no, no. This is many years ago. Are you abstinence completely? For over a decade. Did you quit cold turkey? No alcohol or nothing. No, no, no. Hassan tries to get me to drink a lot, but he'll send me sometimes, like, he'll, like, send, like, like, guys to my house.

Do you relapse for him? Hell no. No. No. No. So, you know, in the program, they would probably say people, places, and things that would cause you to relapse. So Hassan would be a trigger for you. If you hang out in a bar long enough, you're going to take a drink. That's right.

If you hang out with Hassan long enough. Yeah. He's not even lying, though. I did forget. I did forget one time, and I did offer him an alcoholic beverage. I don't care. I actually just like heroin. So it's like if someone off me would beer, I'm like, no, no, no, no.

And they don't even make it anymore. They make fennel. Well, good for, there's not many people just hanging around with heroin, are there? Okay, the time traveler. It's rare now. It's because it's from the earth. It's natural. But, but, all right, but I came out of that.

And I'd sort of been in a fugue state for a number of years, and I had missed a lot of events. Like, when Occupy Wall Street happened, I was like, I don't know what's going on. Hired and kind of. Like, where is that? Yeah, I missed it completely. But when I came out, it was right when Gamergate was happening. And I started trying to pay attention to it, but I'd missed so many things in the past like four or five years

that had happened to make people go crazy that I could not make head nor tales of it. But it did have, since then, I've learned about it, but it had, I would say, long-lasting insane effects upon large groups of mostly online, but still somewhat influential people, especially on the right. So like a lot of the people kind of in the Elon Musk's sphere who like, Elon Musk gets his kind of right-wing ideas from,

came from this gamer civil war David DePee was a gamer gay Who fuck is David DePee The gay lover of Paul Pelosi Oh Who tried to do

Who tried to do facial reproduction Who by the way Has been pictured Walking around normal What Paul Pelosi? Yeah So I was under the impression It had hurt him a lot

But I think he's doing better now But he's also somebody He's 12 steps would help But And if you're watching we will, Paul, we are going to, we can go. Yeah, he is a big advocate for a drunk driving. Yes.

He loves drunk driving. At the age of 94, I think. Well, at that point, it's, you know, it could just be natural. Are you just driving? Yeah, right. But Gamergate really drove a lot of people. I don't know, why were we talking about Gamergate in the first place? The time traveler of Charlie Kirk.

Yes. And so, to Candace Owens, when she kind of makes her splash in the political world, she had created a website that just was able, was to fight. Right online harassment, but it was just a doxing website. Okay. And she, everyone got mad at her. So both sides of GamerGate got mad at her. And they both kept using the word doxie.

But she had never heard that word before. And so she assumed that both sides of this online conflict were actually faking having a conflict and were actually united secretly in attacking Candace Owens. If that makes sense. And so her, that you can kind of almost extrapolate every view she has on events since then about that. She'll misunderstand something very. very basic or do zero investigative work and instead create a Baroque conspiracy that she is somehow at the center of.

Yeah. I will say there is an angle where she might have been poisoned by black mold and I think that probably plays a little bit of a role in her like mental faculties not being all there. Candicellone was also, you know, back in the day in high school, successfully sued the Connecticut Board of Education for being victim of racializing

attacks that caused her to develop an eating disorder. And then the Gamergate stuff happened. Do you think she believes her conspiracy theories or she's just putting this on to Gryft? It's hard to say because either one is appealing because if she is putting onto Gryft, she's doing such an amazing job. Staying in character. Yeah.

It's like Erica Kane from All My Children. Are you all too young to know about Erica Kane from All My Children? No. Well, I know what all my children is, but I've never seen it. It's a great soap opera in the 80s and Erica Kane was the epicenter of the show and she was nominated for Emmy, Daytime Emmy after Daytime Emmy after Daytime Emmy for years she never won. Erica Kane was snubbed. Her real name is Susan Lucie and she just played this diabolical character on all my children. It was excellent. Y'all miss the

soap. It was great stuff soap operas in the 80s. Oh, I, I, they were fantastic. They still have them around a little bit. Yeah, Candice Owens. My people have been taking over the soap opera field. Yeah, and the Latin and the Latin exes. Oh, they do? Yeah. Yeah. Koreans, the Latin X's, and the Turks are dominating the soap opera field. At one point of plan last year where a bunch of TPSA surrounded people wanted to do a reality show, like a conservative content house reality show. With a prager you guy. They did it? Xavier, the gay guy.

I love Xavier. Yeah, Xavier. If you know who else is on it. Who? Destiny. I love this guy. I'm the guy who's Dickie. fucking in that video. A lot of people don't know that.

I thought it was. And it was horrible. I thought it was Nick Weinberg. That's why I became homophobic. I get it. But but but but bad dome will do that. Candice is I am fascinated by her because she's one of the biggest per person who is on the right.

Yeah. Right. And everybody else is now kind of like like like of this like normie is right wing like not crazy like not as not as like Nick Fuentesi but she is actually more. I would say refined in her anti-Semitism than Nick Fuentes. Like her theories on Jews, I'm like, I'm familiar with them because I know a lot about, I guess, like, 19th century, Central European anti-Semitism. And I'm like, she is familiar with this as well.

And so she has all these, I mean, it's really, but I tell you, I've said this, I've said this five minutes alone in a room with her. She's walking out with Pais. she's walking out with peas she's wearing the yama she's wrapping I'm wrapping her after that and we're shooting a little bit of ketamine

but we're rapping of the percentage of people that watch her how many do you think just watch it like you all do for entertainment and I am not going to lie I think there's a lot of people watching it for entertainment but I do think that there's a good chunk

of like liberals who watch her as well and think she's awesome Yeah, I've met a lot of, I met a gay black man who is a diehard, yeah, just once, just one time. And he was like a diehard Democrat, diehard liberal, straight ticket blue voter loves Candace Owens. And knows Candace Owens' background with the George Floyd investigation that she can do. Yeah, because that was like a big thing. Like she was like, George Floyd was a fentanyl addict. that's why he died and it wasn't Derek Chauvin.

Not how overdoses work. I've overdosed. It's not, you don't, it's, it's, in any case. He is a tolerance. They know all of that stuff and they still find her so compelling. Yeah. And, and follow along because, like, she's been able to corner this market of gossip and true crime and crazy conspiracies, Q&A style conspiracies that somehow all center around her being

the victim of these international forces. and that's why she pivoted to France very quickly where she was saying, first she was saying, you know, Jews occupy the American government, Zog, Zinus occupied government. And then she pivoted to actually the real Jews are French. That's, and that's fast. Which was awesome. Yeah.

I thought that was fantastic because she had like somehow found a way to tie that back to her like ongoing defamation lawsuit with, as you said, Gender fluid Brigitte McCrone. I ask you this. Who do you think? your counterpart in the right wing media is. Mine? Yeah. Oh, God, that's a good question. Definitely not Candice Owen. She's a lot bigger. I mean, well, she's just also, she, she breaks boundaries. In the right way. I don't know if you

have, like, a direct, like, version of yourself on the right. Because no one is, like, railing against the establishment Republicans in the right wing media in the way that you do against establishment democracy. I also think that, you know, part of your appeal, I mean, not, All of it. Respectfully. Like, the fact that, like, you would be,

maga coated. You would be maga coated. Like, you look maga, but you're not. Right. And you're such a breath of fresh air. Because, like,

somebody that looks like, you could have very easily, you're from Oklahoma. Right. You grew up in the Bible Belt. You could have very easily been one of those maga freaks. So you don't even have. American stock.

Yeah, you don't have like that. You don't have like that counterpart. Because your counterparts are in church on Sundays. Every, you know, they're not, they don't have a microphone because they're all,

we've seen a lot of them. Yeah. So I'm featured on the five, Fox Five a lot. Greg Gutfeld. Have you on? Have they invited you? No. They just cover me.

Would you go? Fuck, yes, I would. Does my queen Jessica Tarkov defend you? I haven't seen, I just see the clips, but she's been on our podcast and we've been on hers. And she probably would. You should, you should ask them. No, if they invite me, I would 100% go. I'm sorry.

Is Gutfeld, Greg Gutfeld is rude about you on TV? Yes. That's not surprised. she's a woman first of all. What the fuck? Yes. He is very rude about my appearance. About your beautiful.

They call me trans. They say that's crazy. Yeah, they call me. That's crazy. They call me trans. And I just want for the record, I want to inject. What a compliment. I want to inject a photograph here for the permanent record, March, if you'll put

this on, of Greg Gutfeld in a swimsuit. Oh, let's see that. Greg got filled swimsuit. All right, I got to like make my meta-ray bands do my bulge. Sex appeal is. be off the charts. So here's Greg Gutfeld who, that's all they have them.

That's Tom. But that's all they have, though, is to comment, you know, ad hominem in tax. It's always something like. It's always the, and what kills me about these, these conservative men that insult women

is you all look like, fucking shit. Look at them. There we go. Oh my God. Get that. Get that one. Here we go.

Humberna, humming a humana. No, go over one with him in the water. Yeah, there we go. That's him. There we go. Oh, he's got a bit of, he's got a touch. To the musk body to him.

I'll tell you what. Yeah. Yeah. He's sexy. Yeah. This is what I call a pink arm. A white man that kind of has pink arms. Yeah.

This is what the ice agents are. See that? See that pink arm? There's no tone. And it's just a pink. Look at that. He's a pink arm. This is a pink arm male.

Look at the title here. Ponchy Fox News Star shows his softer side. That's a double entendre there. Look at it. Ponchy. That's not a good word. I'll tell you what. You don't want to be.

want to have that's for the daily mail too yeah my god so Greg gutfield he goes after me what does he say but so he insults your looks yeah says that I'm unattractive or that she's trans one day after I went after Rahm Emanuel they did a whole story on me and then he goes well she's kind of attractive for a trans woman and then another time I think I was really calling out oh is when I called out jd vance for not taking it for his kids and the right wing and some of the liberals went crazy about that do you remember that when yeah yeah they went right fucking I was a hundred 100% right. Which is why all the liberals

and the right wingers got mad at you. I think that's usually what happens when you're right. This is a man who has never touched a gym. You can tell. No, you're wrong. This is a man who is also a gyraider, a jackrabbit.

Oh, yeah. A soft serve. He reads short to me as well. Wait, he used to touch him. Wait, this is him early on. Yeah. His feet don't touch the ground when he sits on those high chairs

and it's so funny because he'll be saying the most heinous shit and then the camera pans over to the wide shot and his little feet are just going dangling and dangling on the on the bottom of the high chair yeah i love seeing that can you imagine just him and bill marr together just talking to you awesome awesome but there i don't i don't think that they should be rude to women on tv it doesn't it really they they are but it doesn't bother me because here's the thing like they we have all of these things going on and every time fox airs me it just means more money for me

So I'm appreciative. Yeah. I'm appreciative that they are highlighting me and driving viewers to my channel. Liberal curious white women. Liberal curious. Yeah. This whole thing about Jesus going on the suicide mission seems a little suss. Yeah.

But I've been told I could never buy into it. And then here's this atheist that's like, it's bullshit. Well, you have your theories on that. Oh, about Jesus Christ? Yeah. Well, you think that it wasn't a suicide mission that just happened? I think he's a great fictional kid. character. I think Jesus existed. Oh, I don't. She's coming after your guy. You don't think he existed as a

person as a human being? No. You don't think he existed? There's no evidence that he existed. The first writing of him was 100 years after his death. That's three generations at that time. You're telling me a guy that's doing magic tricks and all of these things doesn't make it into the historical record. Oh, I had no idea. There were historians at that time. I thought that they proved that he existed. No. That was the guy who wrote about historical and then he got fired immediately. from CNN for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget his name.

I will say this, I'll say this, I just found out about Jesus Christ last year. Really? Yeah. Did you accept him as your Lord and personal savior? I'm willing to if I figure out if heaven's real. That's kind of my, that's spelled in his wager. I believe in Jesus just in case.

That's what I'm saying. Well, that's Pascal's wager. And he's the closest God that I know. Jesus. Jesus. I grew up around, he's the hometown God. I'm a cultural Christian. Okay.

Like I celebrate Christmas. Yeah, I like that. But also, But Santa Claus kind of trumps Jesus. But the pagans really did all of that before the Christians stole those holidays. The pagans. The pagans. The Maypole thing.

I'm like, that's weird. You know, we're going around this thing. I'm glad that the Christians. I've said this for a long time, but I think Mariah Carey is more popular than Jesus Christ during Christmas. There's no question. The Beatles said this and got in a lot of trouble. Oh, that Mariah Carey was more popular. Yeah.

But I just found out about it because I'm trying to figure, I'm trying to, because everyone got mad at us for herding him allegedly at the Jews for her killing him. But my whole thing is It's a layup. What's what I'm saying is No.

Yeah, what you know, I'm Italian. What do you think? I'm not going to assume your background. What do you think my nose comes from, dude? It could be Lebanon. No, there's a straighter. I'm Lebanese.

Did you notice? It doesn't look like mine. Yours is like yours is actually, you know what? It is kind of bottom heavy there. I told you. It does droop. It does a little bit. It does droop.

does droop a little bit there. But, but, but, but, uh, but my whole thing is I'm trying to get us out of trouble. Because we, we, we've, we've done a lot of damage control. I'm trying to do some damage control. Right. And I'm saying if we did it, if we did it. Right. Oh, killed Jesus.

If, well, if we temporarily took a guy named Pontus, what was the, not just pilot? That one, yeah. Not Jewish, by the way, Roman. And his whole thing is that the Jews made me do it. Well, you're the governor. You know, but we can't really make you do it. that, okay, we were like, you gotta fucking, yeah, put him on the thing. And he did it.

But he came back. And he had to go. And then he was like, miss me yet? Like you guys believe me? And then everyone's like, oh, Jesus is real. It's all real. So I'm like, if we didn't do that and Jesus lived to be like, whatever, 50, like old age back then and just like died in a farm, we'd give a fuck. You know what I mean?

We would just, you know, we would still, everyone would be Jewish still. And so, or like, one of the other ones. And, uh, and so I'm like, okay. So the murder was to benefit Christians. I'm like, if we did it, why are you mad? Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, why are you mad?

I agree with this. I'm on board with it. I agree with that. We helped you by, which we didn't do it. Do you think he was a real? Do you think Jesus was real? I think it was probably a real guy named that. That's really stuff. But I'm like, but I'm like, but I'm like, there's a lot of guys like that.

The magic tricks. You know, my whole thing is I'm, I'm doing an investigation of all religions of the So when you investigate, you'll find that there were many Jesuses before Jesus, born of a virgin, all of the signs. Because it was a prophecy. Right. It's a, basically, Christianity is stolen from ancient Egyptian religions. So it's, it's all been borrowed. I'm a believer in the Chinese Jesus.

Which guy is that? The, what is it, the Taiping? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the boxer rebellion. Yeah, the one that, the one that caused like, you know, not even the boxer rebellion. No, not the boxer, but it was the one that caused like, you know, millions of Chinese people to slaughter one another. He changed his name to Jesus at one point, right? Yeah, yeah. Are you religious?

Um, I grew up religious. Do you pray? Uh, no, I don't pray. Which religion? I pray every once in a while. I was, I was raised a Christian, but very loosely. Which sect? Yeah.

Uh, I don't know. My mom was Catholic. My mom was Catholic. My mom was like, my mom was like, not. Did you get confirmed? No, I never got baptized or anything. Nothing. I went to Mormon church for a great.

period of time. You went to a Mormon church? Yeah, just for one one second. What? Were you in trouble or something? You went to a Mormon church? Here's a story. My mother, my mother grew up, was raised Catholic. We have a part of my family that's Mormon. Is she a Maronite? No. No, I don't even. No, I don't know. Well, he's, your dad is the Lebanese. Yeah, my dad's, I think he is Maronite. Yeah, but my dad is like, the religion is my, the religion has been fading in my family. Get back to you going to a Mormon church. Well, I want one time my, my mom was like a religion hopper when I was younger.

Shocker. Yeah, she was shopping around religions. And for a brief period of time, she's like, I'm going to be Mormon. And we went to one service. And that was enough. She said, this is fucking nuts. And then we left. And we never went back. But I really like the bread that they serve. They have better bread. They have bread. They have bread. Yeah, they kind of stole from the Catholic Church where they give like that, whatever. I'll tell you the best bread is Hala, the Jewish bread. So I sent my kids in Oklahoma to a Jewish preschool because I didn't want them to get recruited by the evangelical Christians. It is liberal Hitler. Yeah, because I did not want them to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Christians

are horrible, right? So I send them to a Jewish preschool and they would come home every Friday with this holla that they baked. And it was fantastic. The problem with sending your kids to a Jewish preschool is the September dickover. So there's all these holidays. And as a mother, you need your kids to be in school. Yes. You need the separation. You don't want to be at home in kid jail. You need that separation. So they finally go back to school the end of August. And I don't know, it was like Rosh Hashanat, all this bullshit holidays that completely interfered with my Jennifer time. I'm with you. All these.

It was my Jennifer time. And I'm like, I just spent all summer with them. I need for them to be here. And they're not even doing the holidays. They're like. My kids are atheists. So I'm like, can you come teach them on these days? But it was, I had to.

And then in the summer, there was this great little Jewish camp I sent them to Camp Havarim. Oh, interesting. Yeah. In Oklahoma. I'm surprised. that they didn't turn out to be pro-Israel after all that. No, when you're a kid, you're just like, I don't know what that is.

I mean, by the time they were five, they were in a different school, so preschool, but they, my son, Dylan, the one that, let me see if he's text back about the Gamer Gate, he said that, oh my God, here he is. I was a bit too young to get involved in that when it happened, but looking back, obviously the journalist side.

He's just saying that. He's so woke now. He's woke. He's always, he's always, When I put a Hillary Clinton sign in my yard, he said, Mom, I can't believe you're so conservative. And I was like, me? Are you calling me conservative? The nerve.

How old is he? 23. He's in college. No, he's out of college. Law school. Law school? What kind of lawyers are going to be? I don't know.

I think he might want to do like some sort of entertainment type law. His father, my husband is a criminal defense attorney. He was that. The scene was planted. He's coming. Has he seen entourage? Oh, yeah. He's got to watch all seasons

his entourage. Listen to this. One time when my kids were, Roman was five, Dylan must have been like eight or nine. We go to L.A. with our friends. Have you heard of the band The Flaming Lips? Yes.

Okay, so Wayne Coyne, the lead singer of the Flaming Lips, lives in Oklahoma. His ex-wife, Michelle, one of my best friends. Before they got divorced, Flaming Lips is playing at the Hollywood Bowl. We all go. We take the kids. We're sitting at the Roosevelt Hotel, I think it is.

The one on sunset by the wax museum. Yeah, yeah. My kids had to go to the wax museum all the time. They were like five in the game. We're sitting there. The whole cast of entourage comes in and we're in an episode laying out and they film it with all of the actors. You're in an episode of entourage? You can see me lying in a lounge chair and then you see my kids swimming at the end of the pool. That's my dream. You're the most amazing moment in the world. We didn't sign jack shit. And the actors, the guys that came in, they're like, we're sorry guys, because my kids were like splashing and being noisy. And I was like, I was so starstruck. And I was this young mother and I was like, do I need to take my kids to the room? And they're like, no, you're good, you're good. We want it to feel organic and natural. Your kids will just be filmed and put on TV. They're at the end of the pool swimming.

Wow. That's incredible. Okay. Yeah. Since we're on the topic of children. Yeah. I know we're almost, we're at time. Okay. But I need to ask you something. Yeah. I really want kids. Yeah. One day. Okay. But I really struggle with the idea of raising. them in those early stages are really rough. It's really hard. Yeah, and I don't and I want kids. I don't want to adopt, I want my own. But I, but like that beginning stage where you have to be there constantly. Yeah, it's Chinese water torture. And I don't know how

my, I need a recommendation because I want them. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it anyway. But what do you recommend to a gay man who still wants to enjoy life and have children and really struggles with that like probably zero to seven or eight? So here's the thing.

Seven or eight? Kids are not earrings that you put on as an accessory with an outfit. So if you want to have kids, as much as I bitched about those early days, it was critical for me to be the one, to be in the trenches, taking grenades, cleaning at diarrhea, all the shit. It's their liquid disasters. Yeah, don't do it. When they're toddlers, it's like living with a little alcoholic.

They hit you, bite you, kiss you, throw up on you within a matter of five minutes. You're living with a miniature, alcoholic, emotional terrorists. And then all of a sudden they just love you and their darling, but you have to put the time in. Now, if you don't want to hear that, I would recommend a fantastic nanny type person. That's what I was thinking. Subsidize the parenting.

Yeah, hired out, delegate a little bit. And I'd be willing to let that nanny be in their lives the entire time if they like. But so, okay, I think I can do it because really there's, I think you can, I think you can, a lot of people. Would you be the home room mom? Would you get, take it that far, helicopter parenting? I mean, I don't, no, no, no, I'm a big believer. I'm a big believer in, I do need to let my parents, my parents, my kids make mistakes to some extent, right? They need to make mistakes. And also, I don't believe in hitting my children, right? I believe

that I will deprive them of their privileges. That's what I'll do. And you're right? Here's the problem with that. Let me tell you, the problem with depriving your children of privileges. So the one that just messaged me here about Gamer Day, game, game or gate, whatever it is. When he was a senior in high school, I called him and I was like, hey, Dylan, you need to get home. He's like, okay, I'll be there. And like my mom Antoinna's went up. Like, something's not right here.

So he gets home, and I hear him kind of creeping through the house. I'm like, Dylan, get back here. He shows up at my bedroom door, and I'm like, why do it take you so long to get home? and he's like, uh, and I'm like, are you stoned? And he's like, no, I'm not stoned. And I'm like, Dylan, I could blindfold you with dental floss right now. You are stoned and I'm going to ask you again. Are you high or not?

He's like, yeah. And I'm like, okay, give me your car keys and your phone. He's like, what? I go, I'm not pissed that you got high. That's not a news flashed to me, high school senior smokes weed. The driving part pisses me off. So I take his car away from them. Do you know who gets punished?

Who? Me. Oh yeah. Because then I have to drive his ass around. That's true. So the punishment, taking the phone away, all of that, it punishes you. You've got to deal with more of them. It punishes you.

This makes sense. Ground him from TV. It punishes you. This makes sense because when I used to get punished, my mom took my privilege ways, I would negotiate my way out of the punishments. And it probably wasn't hard. I used to, yeah, I used to get early, early, I used to, she would sort of talk to me and I'd negotiate an early exit.

She'd be like, you're grounded for a week. You get this for a week. And I'd be like, mom, how about if I clean the kitchen or something, we could get out of this little early. And it worked. Dylan got his car back within one ride. See? And I was like, I'm done with this.

I'm pretty much about to ship you off to college. Yeah. Don't drive stone ever again, you fucking asshole. And then that was kind of my approach after that. If somebody maybe did a podcast and with a woman and that woman had a baby, after how many months off can I be like, when are you coming back to the show? This is a totally random question. It has nothing to do with his podcast.

The baby is maybe not born yet. But maybe we're thinking ahead. I would say, I'd say 48 hours. I would say like four to six months. Four to six months? Yeah. You're cooked.

That's the worst answer you could have possibly given me. Well, you could have her bring the baby, but they're kind of noisy. That's what I'm saying. Bring the baby. We'll put it in a box or something. You know?

Sometimes they're not. On that note, ladies and gentlemen, this has been a fantastic episode. Thank you both. And we have to, of course, ask you guys, where can people find you around the horn here? Grace Belden. True and on podcast. True on podcast. I've had it podcast.

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That's right. Are you an atheist Jew or a religious Jew? I grew up. I grew up. Why is that so funny? Thank you for asking. Go on. I grew up because I'm not circumcised and we're talking about this.

Really? I break the covenant with God. You're not. I break the coffin with God. He's lying. I'm not circumcised. You're not circumcised. swear to

I swear to God I'm not circumcised Prove it I can't I can't Well no because I'm a wreck right now And so it's supposed to try to but No I'm not and I asked my dad about this when I was 10 Because I saw other dicks in the fucking Windsor waterworks It's a really shitty water park

I was chosen when you say you're No I saw a dick in the fucking water park Like locker room not the bathroom But in like the people are changing and I was like Oh mine's all fucked up It's jarring And I asked my dad This happened to me when I first

was with my first un-cut. I was like, what is this? And then when I was like, when I was like 13, there was girls at school that were like talking about how fucked up unciracized penises was. And I was like, oh, man. Now I'll never be able to make love. Okay, back to your religion.

Uh, I'll say this. I didn't realize that any Jews believed in God until I was about 17 years old.