Fear& - Valkyrae Steals The Show | Fear&
Episode Date: January 26, 2026✨WATCH THE SECOND HALF ON PATREON✨ Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/FearAnd 🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS 🎧 🔊https://linktr.ee/fearand ❤️ follow our guest! ❤️ Valkyrae: https://www....instagram.com/valkyrae ❤️ follow Fear&! ❤️ Hasan: https://twitter.com/Hasanthehun Will: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeff QT: https://twitter.com/QTCinderella Austin: https://twitter.com/Austinontwitter Marche: https://twitter.com/Marche Fear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPod Chapters - 00:00:00 - Welcome Valkyrae, the most beautiful woman we know 00:02:40 - autism reveal party 00:04:19 - its not a pass or fail exam 00:08:12 - it better be at charles' location 00:09:30 - the new funny guy of the podcast 00:12:33 - RAG N BONE 00:13:42 - the new PHONE guy of the podcast 00:16:52 - hasan is in a documentary at sundance 00:18:06 - AUSTIN WILL BE HOSTING AT THE GRAMMYS 00:19:01 - doctors have stopped touching your genitals? 00:24:10 - AWAKE?! 00:29:50 - Shopify 00:31:10 - shes that damn girl chat, shes that girl 00:35:11 - the boys yearn for connection 00:38:19 - omg crazy idea what if we go to the abbey afterwards 00:42:23 - Zippix 00:43:39 - maybe dont tell us or tell us idk 00:45:09 - 5 people in a pod 00:47:23 - he has never acted this way before 00:51:27 - the maga family interview 00:55:23 - we all truly love america, because of what it can be, not what it is 00:57:49 - an unwillingness to believe there is a better way 01:00:00 - it just doesnt exist anymore #hasanabi #valkyrae #podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'll be honest, if I was straight, we would be together.
Would you?
Would I date you?
If I was straight.
Oh my God.
I'm just wondering.
Jesus Christ.
Would you still have all of your characteristics?
Thank God.
Wait, you're asking me, would I still be a gay man?
Would you still, like, be fascinated with airplanes?
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the Fear and Podcast.
It is a beautiful Monday here in the United States.
States of America.
It's not a Monday.
Well, I know.
But for those that are watching,
it's a Monday.
And we are joined by such an amazing guest.
Oh, my God.
It is...
Don't even start with me.
Don't even start with me.
Are you serious?
Valkray.
Wine about it.
Voway, everybody.
Yes, I'm here to fill in for cutie.
Can I just say...
We all miss you.
I've been waiting for the cameras to turn on.
Oh, I've also been waiting for the cameras to turn on.
Ray, I've been meaning to tell you this for quite some time.
You are one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
Shut up.
Oh, did he say this to Pokey last week?
No, I didn't.
Really?
No, no, no.
He has said it to Pocke's beautiful.
No, now it's performative.
No, it's not performative.
It's not performing.
But Ray, you are so gorgeous.
And I just, I want to tell you this that, like, and I'm not lying either.
Okay, thank you, Austin.
Why did you say that?
I feel very convinced.
Now you make, now you sound like you might be wanted.
No, I swear to God I don't, but it's not because they're not, I just, let's focus on you right now.
Focus on you.
Absolutely drop that gorgeous and I'm not kidding.
I'm dead serious.
They think I'm joking.
I don't think you're joking.
I'm just seeing where this goes.
Like, it's going nowhere other than to say.
Do you think I could turn you straight?
Well, oh.
I mean, I'll be.
honest, if I was straight, we would be together. Would you? Would I date you? If I was straight?
Oh my God. I'm just wondering. Oh, Jesus Christ. Thank God. Would you still have all of your,
your characteristics? Thank God. Wait, so you're asking me, would I still be a gay man? Would you still like
be fascinated with airplanes? Of course. Is that something that you find attractive? You're asking if
I do find it attractive. I do. Great. Oh my God. Speaking of autism.
You are all welcome.
Oh, thank you.
You're invited to come to QD's autism party.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
We're having an autism reveal party where she's going to go get officially tested.
Okay.
We're going to have a party.
I'm excited.
There's going to be a gender reveal cake except it's an autism reveal cake.
Wow.
I'm able to make it because the doctor's going to be like you need to be under medical supervision.
You've never seen.
You've never seen levels of autism like this before.
You have to be studied.
Not Austin.
I'm so sorry.
I would say common misconception.
Hassan, you could do it too.
We can do a double reveal.
I'm good.
What do you mean you're good?
Wouldn't it be fun though?
It's like some things are better left here.
We have two cases.
He's been revealed though.
Yeah, this is kind of like having a pregnancy reveal when you're eight months pregnant.
We kind of know.
Am I, am I?
I don't know.
The jury's out on that.
But it would be so fun.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, so then we'll have a cake, which will have the results, and then she'll do the cup thing.
What if she...
So what colors the cake?
Does autism have an official, like, flag or color or stamp or something?
Is it...
It just comes out in its Legos.
Part of the LGBTQ plus A.
It's the A.
Oh!
Wait, wait.
That doesn't flag is hype.
Wait, wait, wait.
Why is it just gay?
Yeah, no, that's gay.
No, no way.
No, take it down.
No, there's no way.
What do you mean?
Take it down.
He's homophobic.
No.
There's no way.
There's got to be something just for autism.
Hold on, hold on.
What if she passes and doesn't have autism?
It's like somebody
passed.
We don't call it passing.
We don't call it.
We don't call it.
It's not a bad thing to be autistic.
No, of course not.
I feel like I may be a little bit.
I got the pass, right?
We have planes.
Everything's on a spectrum, okay?
Right?
Yes.
I mean, I think we all lay on a spectrum somewhere.
Sexuality spectrum.
Sexuality spectrum.
Autism's cool.
Yeah.
It's past fail.
It's a binary.
It is.
When somebody's autistic, I'm like, damn, fuck yeah.
I actually, I actually love cutie.
Yeah.
I love cutie.
She's got 11 special interests.
Yeah.
If you're autistic, fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
That's what we should do.
Autism.
Fuck yeah.
I do need to ask her when she's going to go get her official diagnosis.
Autism, fuck yeah.
But at the end of the day, it doesn't change anything.
Is it bad?
No, no, no, no.
It doesn't change anything.
I love them.
Autism, fuck you.
Autism, fuck yeah.
I'm going to call her.
Wow, I'm crying.
You think she'll answer right now.
I think she'll answer.
Okay, let's see.
I think she'll, kitty, kitty.
Kitty will answer for sure.
Can we make our next merch if you guys test officially autistic,
autism, fuck yeah.
I agree.
Hello, cutie.
Cudy, it's Austin show from the Fearand podcast.
Oh, yes, you're on the Fear End podcast.
Oh, my gosh.
What's this?
What is that?
Oh, come on, cutie.
It's your second favorite podcast, Judy.
Come on.
That's be real.
Question for you.
When are you getting your official autism diagnosis done?
Because I did invite the boys to your party that I'm throwing.
Yeah.
Do you think I really want people to wear a certain color if they think I'm autistic or not?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we were just looking up if there was an official color or like an autism symbol or a flag or something, but we couldn't really find one.
Oh, it's a puzzle piece.
I also, I forget what it's called now because Asperger's isn't politically correct anymore.
Okay.
But I want a certain color if people think I just have that type of autism.
So then they get extra points.
Oh, and then we can film that TikTok where we go up and ask people.
What do you think Qie has?
Yeah, because let's be honest, it's not going to...
It might reveal a lot of things.
I've always thought you were normal, kitty.
Wait, fuck.
What do you mean by normal?
That's not what I meant.
Oh, my God.
We're keeping that in.
We're keeping that in.
That's not what I meant.
You guys know I have good intentions.
You can be that.
You can be normal.
I think you're abnormal.
Everything is normal.
I think you're abnormal, but it has nothing to do with autism.
What I mean is, like, you said there's something wrong with you.
I don't think there's anything wrong with you.
you're perfectly normal and normal being everything.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So, okay, great.
It's beautiful.
It's natural.
It's great.
Fantastic.
Okay.
So I've got a question.
What have you.
Described as autism spectrum disorder level one.
Okay.
Now, what if you get there and you don't, you find out you don't have it?
It's kind of like, I don't know, like running for election and then everybody's there on
election night and it's like.
It's still, it's still, it's, it's.
It's a way for her to learn more about herself.
At the end of the day, it's fine whether she has it or not.
Let's be real.
She has autism.
Okay, Qudy, what do you think about having a reveal cake for Hassan as well?
Like a double, like a shared party.
Yeah, a double reveal.
Oh, I don't know if you want to share it with him, though.
I mean, we could do a shared party if he pays for everything.
What?
Cuddy, I have his credit card.
We'll just do that.
If he wants to rent out the Chucky cheese, you know, we'll just put it on his car.
Wait, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, full pause, full stop.
It's at Chuckie cheese.
Well, I haven't picked a location.
Cudy, I'm letting you know right now you're not in the process of planning it.
You are not part of it, okay?
I am going to make your cake.
I'm going to get the venue, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
But I need you to get your actual, like, go to the doctors and go get in official.
If I don't have autism, isn't that going to be a little sad a little bit?
That's what I was like.
I just have OCD and ADHD, but not.
no tism?
Well,
Cudy,
I'm pretty sure
you've got a little tism.
No matter what.
Yeah.
We're gonna support you.
We love you no matter what.
No matter what.
If I do,
if I do have tism,
you guys aren't going to be mean to me,
are you?
No.
No.
Like, I'm not going to get like bullied.
Like I can be a part of the jokes,
but I won't be like outside of the joke.
I'm going to keep bullying.
She's asking if she'll ever be me.
No, you'll never be me, cutie.
Don't worry.
Nobody will ever make funny you like me.
Nobody will ever be me.
You'll never be made fun of like me.
Don't worry.
Wait, I heard you're like the funny one of the pod now.
I mean, a lot of people.
You know what, cutie?
I'll talk to you later.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Okay, love you, bye.
We love you, kitty.
Any final words.
Bye, love you guys.
Bye, we love you.
What happened?
I started that campaign.
Yeah, no, that's where I heard it.
Yeah.
Wait, people have been, this message has been going around.
Yes.
Wait.
Listen, so, so they, they,
frequently liken us to the members of Always Sunny
in Philadelphia, which I think is apt.
That's a nice compliment.
It's a very nice compliment.
Well, they are kind of noxious nightmare people, but it's very funny.
And, you know, I always kind of get like the, oh no, Will, you're the, yeah, it's funny, funny, funny.
And I was like, you know what?
I think I'm the glue guy.
I think I'm the shortstop.
And I think Austin is the real funny.
You're very funny.
And then I double down by saying, I don't think this.
This audience gives him enough credit for being the funny man because I think he is constantly creating little hyperbole.
Oh my God.
Just let him have it.
No.
Just let him have it.
Yeah.
You're ugly.
That's why you have to be funny.
Oh, my God.
He couldn't even hold it back.
He called me ugly.
He doesn't mean it.
He doesn't mean it.
He's hurt.
You're fat.
Yeah.
Big ass can't get through the door.
Yeah.
Don't talk about his head.
Hips like that.
I'm proud of you.
You got real gay there for a second.
For the record, there's nothing wrong with being fat.
But in this particular instance, unless there's nothing wrong with it.
I'm just pointing out the obvious.
He's not fat.
You're so cooked out.
No, no.
Oh, no, no.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like Austin's always testing the boundaries of what's going to get him actually canceled.
No!
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
No, I'm not.
Moving on.
Okay, moving on.
I'm not.
What's going on in your life?
No, no, but let me finish.
Yes.
Being the funny guy, I've recently felt.
Here we fucking got.
I have felt the weight on my shoulders has gotten very high.
I hope you're happy.
Wait, really?
Is it weighing on you carrying the pot?
It is.
No, no, no.
The night before the podcast, I'm like, I'm like, I was a little tired today.
I was tired today.
And I walked in the door.
And I was like, Austin, you are the funny one.
You got to fucking show up and be funny today.
Yeah, you have to.
You have to be there.
I have to be on my Ake.
I'm like the quarterback.
Will.
You know what I mean?
It took him less than half of a millisecond to become the person.
He's Udang.
He's Udang.
He came into power.
You wore it like a sleeve.
Oh my God.
What have you done?
Look, guys, everybody knows that I'm just kidding.
And I'm not actually that funny.
Right.
No, you're funny.
You're really funny.
Everybody just do, I'm just doing it.
Wait, you're playing.
He's farming you.
He's farming you!
Okay, well, anyway, let's go back to my.
You know what Hassan has become?
What?
The phone guy.
Also, I did just see you pull out your phone about a minute ago.
Yeah, no, I just saw that.
You are a fan, aren't you?
I am a fan.
I'm a fan.
Well, you wear clothes?
I do.
What kind of clothes do you wear?
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Tell us about that. Yeah, you know, I've been seeing the
community, the fear and community calling you out for being on your phone all the time during the
podcast.
Okay.
There's a couple different reasons, but I can explain today's reasoning.
But usually it's because there's constantly a lot of deliveries being made to the podcast
while we are live streaming like coffee and things of that nature that I have to open the door for.
Marsh, did you order something?
No, it's Austin.
Austin usually orders coffee.
Well, God forbid I fucking have a little caffeine.
At least I'm not on cocaine.
That is true.
At least you're not on cocaine.
How would you say that?
What does that have to do with?
Yeah, what?
Well, caffeine.
He's saying that his vice isn't as bad as it could be.
That's right.
It could be on meth.
Okay, well, regardless.
At least he's not ordering meth.
I'm opening the door.
I'm opening the door for delivery.
Thank God for that.
Today, the reason why I was on my phone is because I was looking up,
my producers are out purchasing winter boots.
Because tomorrow at very early in the morning, by the time this podcast comes out,
I will have been back in Los Angeles, inshallah.
I will be in Murderapolis, also known as Somalipolis, also known as Minneapolis for a general strike that's taking place.
And, you know, there's, I'm very excited to participate in this.
You know, a bunch of locals hit me up and asked if I would attend.
And I said, of course, absolutely.
It's minus 45 degrees.
Yeah.
It's going to be minus 45 degrees.
So we've been panic buying like.
you know, thermals, the outerware, and, and, you know, specific, like, specific gear that you need to,
I guess, survive in the frozen dundra. And I didn't realize how bad it was going to be. Will,
you have a lot of experience in this, but the reason I was looking at the phone is because
apparently I don't have, like, proper, uh, insulated boots. Like, yeah. Negative, beyond negative,
like, 20, it's shockingly cool. And I was just making sure that my friend was prepared in a way that
he wouldn't potentially incur frostbite or something.
Will, where have you been that where you've experienced is cold?
Utah and Montana.
Montana gets that cold.
Montana gets so cold.
Montana gets cold.
Montana gets cold.
Yeah, on top of the mountains too.
So.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it's, I got, I got a Ushanka.
I got Russian military gear.
It's an overcoat that I used to wear back in the day.
And you said I can't even wear like a regular ballic lava.
I have to have like, I can't have.
like, I can't have...
No, you can't...
It has to be insulated.
You can't have anything that, like,
any exposed skin means you'll get frostbite.
Or, like, your skin will start peeling off, apparently.
So I need, like, insulated bolloc lovas and things like that.
Your nose hairs are going to break.
Ooh.
They're going to freeze instantly.
What about your beard?
I'm going to be out here, like, ageing?
No, no, no.
It's things that get wet.
It's because your nose when you breathe,
there's, like, an inherent level of moisture just to your breath.
What about eyes?
Your eyes are going to be very...
Like, his skin is.
going to be dummy dry, but your eyes will be okay. You should wear some kind of like thing.
Come on, I got glasses. Why don't you cancel the trip? No. And not only am I not canceling the
trip. I actually was invited. This is a double story. I was invited to Utah for Sundance.
Oh. Oh. By a documentarian who informed me that I actually made it into a documentary
where my friend who just came back from Gaza as a doctor was, you know, he details his experiences
out there and they're unveiling it at Sundance right now or unveiling it. What's the
premiering it? Screening it. I don't know. They're screening the documentary at Sundance.
Premier. Premier. Premiering the documentary at hold on. That's so exciting. I need a huge favor.
What? Since you're going to Utah. I'm not going to Utah. I'm going to Minneapolis instead
because it's happening tomorrow. Oh, it's, I see. Yeah, here, I'll pull up the details. Can you stop by
Utah on your way home and do the pod with QD?
No.
Second favor. Can you guys come on whine about it next week?
I will be on whine about it next week. Yeah. What day?
Any day. As long as it's before Wednesday. What do you think? You're going to be out of town. Wait. Have you told them the big news?
Oh. Yes. No. No. I'm hosting on the red carpet with Glad at the Grammys.
Yeah, I did hear about this. I get to, I got asked by Glad, which is a wonderful charity.
that Will and I had be,
that we hosted on the red carpet.
And Glad asked me to co-host with
wonderful gentlemen by the name of Anthony Ramos.
I'll be co-hosting and interviewing people
on the red carpet.
I'm very excited.
That'll be fantastic.
Hell yeah.
That's so exciting.
Pause.
The documentary is called American Doctor.
Oh, I thought you were going to cancel.
I was like, what are you doing?
No, I was trying to pull up the documentary called the name of the documentary
called American Doctor when three American Doctors,
Palestinian, can I be honest?
You scared the shit out of me because all,
I saw it was doctor and I thought you got like results back and I was like oh god it's
oh my god he's got cancer it's cancer no I don't have it wait what he doesn't go to the fucking
doctor that's not true I do go to the doctor one's the last time you went to the doctor
a couple weeks ago really what did you test for regular checkup really did they touch your balls
I get blood work down I don't get my balls touch no you know what that's weird doctors have
stopped doing that wait I'm pretty sure you have to do that no for a physical well I it's
weird for me so
physicals when you're when you're younger
Austin and your doctor has seen
your balls too many times
yeah we'll wait till he knows you're fine
no it's my doctor's a woman
she knows you're okay well I haven't
okay so here's the deal this is what's thing
I go for a yearly physical
right right and I you know
physical you're supposed to they'll feel around you
and they'll take your blood and they'll make sure
everything's okay like on a basic level right
and part of the part of a physical
is they usually feel your balls to make
sure you don't have testicular cancer right
or if they're looking for lumps in your balls.
The thing is, it's...
You have a lump.
No, I know.
Oh, my God.
I saw.
I don't know.
Hassan.
He hasn't felt my balls before.
I'm surprised.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Wait, really?
Have you felt Will's balls?
No.
No.
Will.
No.
You have any friends that have touched your balls.
Will his...
Any?
I feel like I have a feeling of everyone...
Will has touched my penis and balls on numerous occasions.
He has touched my penis all up and down.
Is he cancer free?
Over the pants.
So my thing is, I think it would be really awkward to have to ask the doctor to show
them my penis.
Wait.
I'm, what?
So like if you're in a physical, right?
I feel like it's a little awkward to.
Hey, can you check down here?
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
No, you don't think about it that way.
Because you know how many times people get waxed down there, bleach down there?
They're used to it.
They've seen many weas.
Especially if you have, like, a concern.
Yes.
I don't.
You're saying it'd be nice to be noticed.
No, I'm not saying I don't have a concern, but like, what if they feel something that I don't feel?
Would you ask the doctor, what do you think?
Well, no.
Oh, no.
Next physical, you drop track of him.
Come on.
No.
Right.
One out of ten, what do you think?
Give it to me.
No, but I think some doctors.
because I've had my prostate looked at before.
And it was a weird experience.
Six and three quarters.
They had to bring in backup because the doctor, like, for some reason, it's protocol to not be alone.
They had to bring backup?
Well, yeah, because I asked for, I don't know, I was having a panic attack about my prostate.
Anyway, regardless.
Wait, you were like, can you please get up in my guts?
And then the doctor was like, I think maybe perhaps it's enlarged.
And they went in and they, they were like, I need a second opinion.
No, they brought in somebody else because the female doctor couldn't be in there alone.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
And then they, so they brought in a man who, what?
I don't know.
Maybe.
Maybe past experiences.
How deep do they go?
I mean, they're just kind of in and out.
Is it like booty boot camp?
Is it tough?
I mean, it was fine.
Did it feel like, is it, are we talking like around the rim or are they going?
Wait, how deep do they go?
How far are they going in?
Like, here, say stop.
Okay.
Wait, what's the procedure like?
Is it a finger?
Stop.
Austin.
A little bit more.
Say stop, Austin.
A little bit more. That's good. That's good. This?
No, I don't know. A little bit back, back, back, back.
They got to, right there. Good, good. That's how far
they go in? Yeah. Bro, that shit is lodged in there.
Yeah, they have to touch your prostate. Yeah. Does it feel good when they
touch your prostate? Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Let's let's let's let's make lemonade out of these.
Anal. Let's make lemonade out of these lemons. I actually, speaking of cancer and
the booty, I am talking with the American colorectal cancer society tomorrow about
my fundraiser that I've been planning with them called Will Neff puts his ass on the line,
where I will do a colonoscopy on camera with the help of the colorectal cancer alliance
to raise money and to try and take the stigma, the same stigma that you guys are expressing
right now.
Yeah.
I would say I was stigmatizing.
I was fascinated.
Yeah.
He's very curious.
A little too curious, no?
Yeah.
Well, you'll get a lot of these answers when I do this.
But part of it is I'm going to set goals to nominate other male creators.
and you've already nominated yourself.
Well, I think I've had a colonoscopy before.
Right.
And they found a precancerous polyp.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yep.
They did.
They went in there.
They found a precancerous polypilip.
They took it out.
It's no big deal.
Now, precancerous polyps, they told me as a 90% chance of not becoming cancer.
Right.
10% chance of becoming cancer.
That being said, that's where they start polyps.
I was 20, is a few years ago.
I was 28, I think, 27, 28.
Oh, so many years.
So now a lot of people have to get a colonelitis.
and cancer screening at 45. I think that's the recommendation. The age is going down. Well, the age is going down.
I have to actually get one. They recommended one seven years later. I'm going to bump it up a little bit,
I think, because why not? Well, hey, you can get done in the next few months. That's what I'm saying.
Marsh has already signed up. Well, yeah, that's being signed up. So, wait, like, oh, I'm filming
you guys getting it. Wait, this is so exciting. You're someone over here? So, you're all about raising
money for good cause, aren't you? Where are you looking at? Is it like, who are you talking to? So anyway,
awake? Like, awake? I'm going to be asleep. I'm taking that prophethal. They give you
propothal. What is that? It's the drug that killed Michael Jackson.
This is the, how many times have we had this conversation on the podcast? It is. It's a drug that
killed Michael Jackson, but he was using it for sleeping. Oh. So, yeah. Yeah. So anyway,
so they, they, they, they were, he was using it to nap, but it does fucking, it's a
fucking good now.
Yeah.
Right.
And they put you under and they give you and then they stick a camera up your butt.
Why do you?
So I'm doing it up.
You have to be asleep for that?
I'm doing mine awake.
Is it super deep in to?
Yes.
And it's,
is it hurt?
So you're going to feel it all up in your guts?
Yes.
Well, you will feel it.
You'll feel the camera.
Will you feel pain or is it just uncomfortable?
I don't know.
I'm going to find.
Not many people do it on sedated.
Dude, what if you know?
I'm not going to.
Ray, what do you?
you want to talk about. We're moving on.
I'm coming on. I'm actually curious. What if you do come?
Yeah.
On stream.
Yeah.
Like, you can't go back from that.
It's like slithering in there and it just tickles the prostate a little too much.
You're like,
then I will raise an unfathomal amount of money.
A lot of people.
If you come, I'll donate.
Can I,
can I be honest?
A lot of people have misconceptions about the prostate.
Right?
It's kind of like these.
So, respectfully.
Okay.
Where is this going?
Austin. You have a vagina. That is true. Now for women, especially, it's a mental thing to get into the
moment, right? So like, it's not like, it's not just like you can just, you know what I mean? Like when
it goes in there and everything, it's not like, it's not like, you have to be in the mood mentally.
It's a mental thing. You're not just going to like fucking hit the spot and that, oh, you know what I mean?
It's a mental thing. It's not just for women. It's not entirely true. Really? Yeah, girls are horny.
Well, I know you're horny, but you have to get horny. No, no, no, that's not true.
some girls are just fucking horny.
Well, I know, but you're describing,
you're proving my point,
they have to be in the mental state
to be horny.
Oh, I see what you mean.
You see what you mean?
I thought you were saying that you have to
like mentally like get yourself aroused first
before you can like,
no, women are very sexual people.
Yeah, oh, no, I know.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know, you know too.
I mean, I don't know really,
but I know, I heard about it.
You want to find out?
I mean, sure.
Okay, anyways.
This is a fever dream episode right now.
That was really curious.
Um, anyway, what were you saying?
No, no, you were saying.
You were saying.
So you're like, Ray, you have a vagina.
Yeah, going in, but I was trying to bring and connect to everybody together.
So you have to be mentally in the moat.
You're not just going to stick something up your button all of a sudden is going to happen.
But let's, yeah, that's it.
That's what I wanted to say.
Okay, right?
That's what I was trying to say.
Ray, what do you want to?
Okay.
Okay, keep on.
Wait, so what do you mean by that exactly?
Well, with the, with Will here getting his, he's going to be awake.
Yes.
And he's not going to be sexually aroused.
Exactly.
That's my thing.
So it's not in the moment.
It's going to be.
Unless that's something that arouses him.
It's not going to feel good.
No, not at all.
No.
And if they're recommending you to be asleep, why are you going to be awake?
Well, because I want to talk to the doctor during the process and make it as informative as
question for content too
they are also going to be
what if it's like too tight
because like
you won't be relaxed
I mean that's part of the thing
that's a good question
well they'll probably give you
what they gave me
if you clench up
what if you break the
cable
no no they won't they won't
they won't happen
they'll give you fentanyl
no it is probably too tight
he said
probably
yeah right
you're a slut
what
what
I think what you're doing is fantastic.
Thank you.
And I think we need to spread more awareness.
I think people should be getting coronoscopies.
That's right.
You need to spread less.
I think I think everybody, if you're out there, get a colonoscopy.
Yeah.
But we don't have health insurance.
So it's like, fuck.
Like, what am I supposed to, you know what I mean?
When is the stream?
Well, I'm going to plan a lot of that tomorrow because we're trying to find a doctor that
wants to be on stream.
Not just as willing to do it, but we'll also banter with me because the whole point is like,
we're trying to take the stigma out of this and show a very,
human side that this isn't something you should be embarrassed of and it's very limit like the the invasiveness
of it is not something you should actually worry about it's fine chat we also also will is like deeply
connected to the issue there's a good reason for it it's not like he's you know uh out of nowhere
decided let's do colonoscopy no why why did you want my my closest family member uh was diagnosed with
terminal colorectal cancer um and uh actually is beating it uh which you
is fantastic.
Yeah, yeah.
Congrats.
But I did a little boxing promotion.
The name doesn't really matter.
And I trained for six months
because I wanted to raise money
for the chloroctal cancer effort.
And we were going to bring in my cousin
with his Mayo flag and stuff like that.
And then that event didn't happen.
So we immediately were trying to find another way
that I could potentially raise awareness.
It would be funny if he still comes with the flag
and everything.
I come in my boxing trucks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think that can be cool.
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Ray, I have always admired you for being like one of, I mean, you're just, you're the eight girl.
You are that girl.
So what are you, what are you been up to?
lately like what the fuck are you doing like you i just like fuck you know what i mean there's a lot going on this year
you're on the cover of magazines you were like you had jim shark at one point like you're vogueing your
you're you're like in movies your voice acting like what the fuck is up with ray in 2026 yeah well um i am
freshly 34 so yes it was just my birthday so i kind of had in a you know one of those like
midlife crisis things where it's like what am i doing with my life i'm really going to be streaming
11 years now.
How am I feeling about this?
I want to go outside, do things.
So there's a lot that's going on this year.
Doing Fashion Week in New York.
Amazing.
Going to be another movie.
Oh, my gosh.
Making a video game.
Fucking incredible.
A cozy.
It's going to be like a cozy game.
Do you need a voice actor?
I may.
Yeah.
We're working on some shows.
I don't know if my voice is that cozy.
Why did you change the voice?
If I need a Trump impression, I'll reach out to you.
Yeah.
Great, great, great.
You brought it up a little bit.
I don't know.
I'm gay
No, if you go to the beginning of this episode
You'll see Austin was kind of doing
The Trump head till
When he was doing the Trump
I noticed that
I'm Lebanese
Is that his own person there
All right, let me try to do you
Uh
Huh
Wait,
Oh
Wait, you do laugh like that
All right
Give me a voice line
Other than
Ugh
Oh
Fuck, I don't remember
No, what the fuck do you
say, chatter, chatter. That's why I sound like, chatter, chatter, chatter. All right, chatter.
I don't know. I'm gay. Continue, Ray. Continue. No, that's a banger. Continue. I mean,
I'm ashamed of both of you today. We have a guest. I know, I know. Pull it together.
No, I'm, I'm, I'm, pretend I'm cutie. Okay. I'm cutie today.
No, that's not. You don't have a bit, bitch. No, I'm sorry. It's impulsive.
That was in false.
You're not kidding.
You're not deeply mentally ill.
Oh my God.
She's not here to defend herself.
That's crazy.
As you were saying, you're going to be in a movie.
I didn't know.
I just want to do.
I'm going to Africa for the first time.
What?
Yeah,
I'm going to Cape Town.
What part of Africa?
Cape Town, yeah.
So that's where the movie's being filmed.
And it's,
and then I'm having extra,
I'm only come out to go film things.
Because I have this YouTube series called Touching Grass.
Cutie hates the name of it.
And I wish I could change it,
but I can't.
Everything's taken for a series.
I don't.
Why does she ate it?
Because she hates me.
Oh, speaking of hating me, I just want to clarify, we don't actually hate each other,
even though she did prank me last week with slime.
I don't know if you saw that episode.
I saw that.
Yeah, I was first ever solo pod episode.
I'm nervous all the time doing these episodes and stuff.
So I had prepared to interview Ludwig questions, you know, in my head and stuff.
I was prepared.
And then in-walk slime, mind you, never met him, like actually met him in real life.
So I had no research done.
I was not prepared at all.
And apparently this guy, you know, like,
all I know about him is that he's funny and bald.
That's all I know.
Right.
And it turned out to be a banger episode.
It was great, blah, blah, blah.
But the segment with courage was absolutely fucking hilarious.
Yeah, I can't believe.
I can't believe.
I can't believe you recommend it com town to you.
Yeah.
And I also didn't realize that was Stavi's pod.
Yeah.
Which I had no idea.
Yeah.
But yeah, I met Stavvy before.
So it's like, I didn't know.
So it came together.
Yeah, it was his favorite pod.
I like the fish out of water thing though.
Like Ray, we should just do that as a series.
Just throw right.
Just surprise you and oh my God.
Well, now I'm expecting it.
I did kind of want to break you guys by having slime come here.
That would have been insane.
I thought of it literally this morning.
I was like, man, that would have been a really fun.
Like double prank thing.
Am I coming on wine about it?
Please, please.
I, QD asked me today.
She was like, so would you like to do?
do, like, do you want to come to Utah film or do you want to have guests? I was like,
I'm sure I can find a guest. I genuinely wish I would be there in a heartbeat. I'm just out of town.
I know you're busy. I'm not even busy. Usually it's Mondays at night. Sorry, it doesn't matter.
We're locked in here. Okay. I thought I was also invited. No, no, no, no. I'm really sad because I
really want to be a part of it. I feel like this is my only opportunity to be on the podcast.
Only are you, has she never asked you guys? No, no. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it. I
I did it a long time ago.
I've been on it twice.
I've been on it twice.
I think I was a first.
I've been out of it twice, actually.
No, you were on with me because they asked me and then you.
You guys drink wine on wine about it, right?
We have a couple times, but we don't really drink that often.
You know what I want to do for our episode?
Have you ever heard the tort of Franzia?
No.
I'll bring a stationary bike and we have to drink a bag of wine while one of us is on the bike.
I love that.
That's a great idea.
Why don't we just get messed up for one episode?
I'd like that.
That would be so fun.
A drinking episode with people.
You just said you're out of town that time.
Okay.
Is there a day that you would be here?
I'll be here after the episode's recorded.
Oh, I see.
You're making it seem like you're specifically.
I could be available to next week, though, for the next week's episode.
QD is considering staying longer, by the way.
I don't know if you guys know that.
Oh, wow.
Well, I've been trying to convince her to stay longer because she hasn't been able to get the proper rest of the
She's had tooth surgery.
Tooth surgery.
Yeah.
She chipped her tooth.
She's getting things pulled and filled and everything.
I think QD needs to take more time.
Like she hasn't been able to rest.
I literally told her this.
I was like,
cutie,
you need to fucking step away and rest.
She can't stop working.
She's a workaholic.
Yeah.
She is.
She's always working nonstop.
Listen, hear me out.
I think she needs to stay longer and actually rest because what if she comes home and
then she's like, I got to go to Utah for another three months.
That's true.
What the fuck is going on?
I mean, you know how.
she is.
Yeah.
You are not a human being, Hassan.
Can you empathize a little bit more?
You don't have any fucking, all you do is work, work, work, politics, politics, politics,
mo, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, tell him.
Exactly.
No.
No, 100%.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyways, so, yeah, Will, we'd love to have you on the pod next week.
Thank you.
It would be so fun.
Al come on.
Um, Hassan, you can come if you can free up your schedule, but that's not going to happen.
If it's like filming before my stream or after my stream, I can do it.
It'll probably be, we usually do in the mornings.
Yeah, if it's early, I can do it.
Really?
If it's early enough, yeah.
I, fuck.
They're both.
I have fucking FOMO, Ray.
I'll pay for your flight.
Ray, oh my God, I'm not broke.
We need, no, but it's more like a, because you're using your time to come to
Enough about him and his tragedy.
What girly things could we do during our whine-abouted episode?
So, um, usually cutie is like the girly, you know, she brings all the pop culture and I just listen.
I nod my head.
Okay.
But what if we do something special?
Okay.
Oh, oh my gosh.
No, I love-dress up.
You want to dress up?
What if we, oh my God, crazy idea.
What if we went to the abbey afterward?
I think it'd be a special episode.
You know what?
Well, I think we should go to the.
Abby. Yes! I think we go to the Abby.
Tribe Brunch! Yes!
Oh my god!
We can hit up the cast of heated rivalry.
Oh!
But not the Russian one.
Have you seen heated rivalry?
You know, I think I can get in contact with their agency.
Yeah, I know them.
Wait, you know them too?
Let's do it!
It'll be the three best friends that anyone's ever had and only us and no homosexual men.
Except for the cast of heat.
Except for him.
Yeah.
Not the Russian one.
We're going to miss you, though.
Ray, would you book me first class if you flew me now?
I'm just curious.
I will always book you business up.
I appreciate you.
Always.
He would go in stowage.
No.
I wouldn't do that.
I flew first class this morning.
His fomo is so high right now.
He would literally, he would walk from Portland, Oregon to Los Angeles to make it to this thing.
That's, that's, I, I, I have.
You know why I'm busy?
Can I tell you?
Yes.
I usually keep my secret life private, my private life secret.
My life's secret.
I don't even know.
I just don't talk about a lot of things.
But I've got a friend coming to visit and he's taking down on my Christmas decorations.
And I have to be there.
It's one of my best friends and we haven't seen each other in a long time.
Bring your friend here.
No, it's too much.
Wait, why do you have a friend coming over to take down a Christmas present?
I have seven Christmas trees.
I don't know.
Why are they still up?
Because he hasn't had a chance to come.
We have a friend.
Why is it the one guy that can do it in America?
It's my, it's Kirk.
He comes out and he helps me.
Oh.
Yeah.
He comes out.
Kirk sounds like a tree kind of guy.
Yeah.
He's my man.
Like he's my man.
So like he is, he does the man.
Yeah.
He comes, he comes out three times a year.
And he organizes my garage, cleans out my pantry.
And.
Do you pay him?
Yes, of course.
Of course.
And we're also friends.
Like he's my best friend.
But I also, of course I pay him.
I make it worth his time.
What the fuck are you saying right now?
Don't act like you fucking put that tree up from Christmas and took it away.
Oh, yeah, I really saw you hauling that fucking tree out.
Where did it come from?
Did you go out and cut down that tree?
Hassan.
No, you didn't.
No, my brother did.
Yeah, you did.
Well, this is my brother.
This is the version of my brother.
But I didn't pay him.
Well, you should have.
You exploited his fucking labor.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy that you didn't pay him.
That's fucking wild.
you didn't pay him.
Aren't you like a socialist or something?
Yeah.
Oh, what the?
He's my brother.
Yeah, but he's still doing labor for you.
Oh, my God.
That's what they say.
That's what Corpo say.
Bo, you're my brother.
That's what they say.
Is he actually defending paying his friend to do
handyman tasks around the house?
Yes.
Of course I am.
I'm defending it because I think we should elevate
each other.
And we should, you know what I mean?
You should always pay people for their time.
Hassan, if you came over and you looked at a few boxes, I'd cut you a check.
Right?
I would.
Okay, I don't believe that you would pay him.
I would.
I'd say, Hassan, thank you for your time.
I want to pay you for your labor.
He's like, how, I can't accept it.
I'm like, like, imagine if I charge Christian for staying here when you used my house like a hotel.
Like, that'd be fucking insane.
You know, it's weird when you charge.
It's only, it's only if you.
I have to offer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
By the way, did you hear that he's decided he's not going to stay with you anymore?
Why?
Because he's staying with you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, actually, I haven't, I'm actually staying at a hotel.
Oh.
Wait, why?
Can I be so real.
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He doesn't like staying.
No, I love a hotel room.
I think a lot of people can relate with this.
I love a hotel room because I just,
it's something about being alone in a hotel room.
It's fucking open up and just close the blinds,
just all to yourself.
Just ferociously beat your shit.
Just beat your meat.
Every man has this experience.
Every man has their own hotel room.
That's what they do.
It's the number one thing.
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
I swear in the comments section,
if you, that's what you do, tell us.
Well, that's weird.
Maybe don't.
Do you furiously beat your shit?
Yes, no.
But I don't know.
Do women do that?
beat their shit
flip their shit
you flick your bean
in a hotel room
and you're like
like do girls
like is that something
you look forward to
as a girl like
just like getting there
is this too much?
I don't think it's
I mean me personally
I don't think it's something
that I like oh I can't wait
to book this hotel room
so I could you know
beat my shit in
yeah yeah I got you
she's a classy lady
I understand
I don't go with the intention of
you know
if it happens it happens
yeah you don't have to speak about this
I'm sorry
it's very inappropriate
but
No, I'm inappropriate for asking.
You're not inappropriate for talking about it.
No, no, no.
I have no problem.
We literally talked about going up Will's ass.
Like, what you mean?
Hello?
The clippers are going to go crazy on me.
Yeah, it's true.
What else is going on in there?
Do you have any things you want to talk about, Ray?
Quit clean that, Will.
Why?
Poor girl.
She hasn't really answered the whole time because we keep talking about assness.
We.
Mr. Funny guy over here.
He's the funny guy.
There's a lot of pressure.
He's been cutting it quite a bit recently.
This is the funny guy revelation.
I mean, no, not really.
I didn't really come prepared.
No, that's fine.
I just always like to open it up
or else the comments kind of rip us apart.
Oh.
Wait, what did they complain about?
I didn't even give gas chance to speak.
Can I be honest?
Yeah, true.
I do feel like five people on a pod is a lot.
Yeah.
So I don't know how you guys do it
with four people every, minimum,
four people minimum every episode.
I think it's great.
Because isn't there one person
that's always not going to talk
as much as someone else?
Yeah, me.
But we always trade off.
Yeah.
No, it's me.
I'm always.
Well, because you're on your phone.
No.
No.
I get on my phone.
Oh my God.
I get on my phone after a while
because I'm just out of the conversation.
I'm like, all right,
nobody wants to talk about politics of me.
I light up.
When Brandon Lee Mulligan was here,
I was lit the fuck up.
I think,
it's also the morning.
I think the issue is we.
is we stream it, we do this at night time.
Yeah. After a 10 hour day.
I'm, I'm ready to go right now. Ask me anything politics related, I'll be fucking yapping.
Okay, I'm a great a yapper.
You can talk about your other interests.
I want to talk about something. Yes, you do. You love trains.
That's true.
Did you see that there's a train movie nominated for Best Picture?
Which one? No, I didn't see that.
I think it's called Train Story.
Look it up. Marsh Best Picture nominations?
Yeah, I was going to bring this up.
talk about the Oscar noms. Are you familiar?
Do you look? I know Superman got fucking
nothing. And I know you're a little
bit devastated by that. Wait, is that one of your favorites
or something? I thought it could have used
one nomination. Oh, train dreams.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Train dreams. I haven't watched it, though.
I feel like that's right down your pipe. You know why I'm
upset about Superman? Because
F1 got nominated for Best Picture.
Yeah. Which is crazy.
Yeah.
You're going to pee in that bathroom?
I don't know.
That's so close.
He's acting brand different.
brand new.
Is it me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He always,
he has like different,
he has like different personalities.
He has like different personalities.
Yeah.
Like,
if it's a male,
guess he has a different vibe.
Like,
it depends.
Like, he'll sometimes like,
throw it up.
Like,
yeah,
I love football.
And then like,
oh,
Super Bowl.
Yeah, he queens.
It up for ladies.
Okay,
I'll bring it up for him.
Like,
let him know.
I know about football.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are we talking about?
Uh,
I know that the Seahawks need one more win
to go to the Super Bowl.
God damn right.
God damn right.
Okay.
I may be going.
Really?
Yeah, I was invited.
Cool.
But they may, you know,
they may have some deliverables
that I don't want to do,
so it's pending.
Have you ever been to the Super Bowl before?
No, I really want to go.
It's fun.
I love watching the finals of everything.
Yeah.
I actually love watching competitions.
Like, even league, I don't play league,
but the finals of league,
it's always so hype.
Yeah.
And seeing how dedicated football!
Yeah.
We're talking about the Super Bowl.
You're a Vikings fan.
You don't have to participate in this conversation.
You've never tasted victory.
This fucking guy.
You've never tasted victory to your fucking leftist.
I'm a Rams fan.
I'm a Rams fan.
I'm a Rams fan.
You're a Rams guy now.
Yeah, I'm a Rams guy now.
Bullshit.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Why?
That's my guy.
Okay.
The Rams, that's my guy.
Name the quarterback.
I'm a Rams guy because Matthew Stafford.
Fuck!
How'd you know that?
You're a bitch.
Oh.
Anyway.
Yeah.
You're my bitch now.
Because I'm a Rams fan.
No, I know because we went.
That's the only Super Bowl I've ever been to.
And the Rams won.
The Rams did win.
Yeah.
We went.
That's the only football game I've ever been to.
Yeah.
Was the Super Bowl.
I was there.
I remember you stood for the national.
Wait.
You see that we're in the bad timeline?
Wait.
What's the?
Oh, yeah.
Tell Ray.
Tell Ray.
What's happening?
When he made that pass in the fourth quarter, I was like,
it's the prophecy.
There was this whole prediction that when the Cubs won the World Series,
we fractured into a terrible timeline where Donald Trump became president and everything
was in the upside down.
And that's why everything's been feeling so off since then.
The only way for it to reset was if another Chicago-based franchise won a major
championships, so the Bears, but they lost.
By the way, guys, I don't know if you know this, but I've started doing Jets talk radio.
No.
No.
Wait, that's what you were, I saw the...
I've appeared on two separate Jets.
I'm fucking love that, dude.
Wait, how did you get that opportunity?
Like, did you randomly call in or was it the ad thing that I saw?
No, no, no, it was, it was, I literally did Badlands podcast last week.
Oh, okay, because I saw you post it.
No, I have, I have commented about the Jets so much on Twitter and in just my private life
that I have become like an internet Jets expert.
and that fandom is completely separate
from like my streaming acting film world
like I am just known as a Jets personality
on the internet.
You don't understand.
I used to call him out for this back in the day
when we were like first becoming famous
and Will with his whole ass like, you know,
internet personality Twitter profile
would be name searching Jets.
Like these are not inbound.
It's all I do on Twitter.
These are not inbound requests at all.
You would have some random fucking, like, Cowboys fan
tuning in, like, Barbara 1744 or whatever.
And Will would be in the replies being like,
shut the fuck up, Barbara.
The Jets are going to get it this year, you fucking bitch.
And I was like, Will, you can't do that.
You're famous.
Like, you're calling out people with like 38 fans.
Sports is different.
He key surges shit.
Oh, my God.
I do think sports is different.
Sports is different.
Yeah.
I'm very superstitious, so I have a hard time trash toss.
because I always feel like it's going to come bite me in the ass.
Why, you're a Vikings fan.
You lose all the time anyway.
Jesus Christ, let the boy live.
I'm just saying, switch it up.
I'm sorry we have joy.
By the way, I think we might be in the worst timeline
because I think there's a possibility that the Patriots will win the Super Bowl.
Really?
And we hate that.
And America may invade Greenland.
Well, oh, fuck.
Trump.
We don't get anything.
But I do have a...
You get to have a plane segment every...
fucking podcast.
Tell us about Greenland.
I did. I did. I did.
Tell us about me.
I was going to say it's not even for Greenland.
Wait, Hassan, I want to hear about you interviewing
the MAGA family.
Yes.
That was actually,
it was so fun to watch.
It was hard for me to have.
And I was like, that was my favorite stream of the year.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
Yeah.
That's the type of shit we want to see.
Yeah.
None of the serious politics is posted by
two, like a brother and sister
A sister owns a bakery in Texas
is like very famous
I think it's called High Bakery
Brothers is like a movie maker
And their parents
Are super maga
Like ultra maga
And some of their clips have been going viral
I was like hit up by a friend of mine
That knows them
And randomly had actually asked
Would you like to have them on your stream
And I was like sure why not
And then I saw their clips
And I couldn't believe it
One of them we could play if you want
Because it's actually insane
Let's uh
It's on my Twitter
I retweeted it right before I interviewed them.
So I think this will give you a pretty good understanding of where they're at
if you are unfamiliar with who they are.
But yes, the mom and dad are super maga.
They're in Oklahoma.
The sister is in Texas, runs a bakery, very famous bakery.
And Chad, the brother, is in Los Angeles.
Here is the general vibes overall.
This one minute and 49 second video will get you understanding everything.
What if Donald Trump says,
I want you to carpet bomb Oklahoma City
everyone. You think the Air Force should carry that out?
Yes.
There might be a reason. We don't know.
This is insane.
You cannot be this stupid. Jesus,
Christ.
Oh, my, my.
This podcast was going well until that.
You just said it's cool.
We f***levels, Oklahoma.
You're like, yeah, fuck it.
There must be a reason.
Like, you literally can't be that dumb.
You know what the problem is?
Mom and I don't believe he'll ever blow up Oklahoma because we're on his side and so's the whole state.
No, it's because you're in a cult.
You guys are worried and afraid because you live in a state where it might happen.
Okay, let's theoretically say that does happen.
Let's say Trump sends in the Marines to Los Angeles, California, and let's say I'm out going to see a movie on a weekend.
And he says, go into that shopping mall.
Quiet, piggy.
He says, go.
Call his dad Piggy?
And fuck everyone you see.
And let's say I get gunned down by the Marines for just being at a mall.
Okay, number one.
All four.
Let's just take it.
Okay, dad, wait a minute.
Mom, wait one second.
Wait one second.
Dad just, hang on, Mom.
Dad, you just said you are for Donald Trump murdering me for no reason.
And you would support that.
If he walks into them all to people with military.
There has to be a reason.
There's a reason.
And I'm all for it.
And the people.
Los Angeles, California
are as deserving of execution
as the assholes in New York City.
You're all communists.
Now, I love Bob.
That's Bob.
Bob's my favorite.
Yeah, Bob was...
Can I see your glasses?
Yeah.
My favorite was when you were talking to him
about Minneapolis and he was like,
none of those Ethiopians are any good.
Yeah.
I don't like any of them.
Yeah, no, he said...
And you're like 95.
percent of them are citizens.
He's like, none of them are citizens.
Get them out.
Oh my God.
So it was crazy.
So here's the thing.
It was crazy.
I think I get a lot of heat for, you know, being a
hater of America and stuff, but I truly fucking love America.
And I love every American, even people like Bob.
I especially have a soft spot for people like Bob.
Right.
And that really came out in this conversation because I came in, I went into it.
I immediately laid it on.
I was like,
listen, Bob, you're talking to a communist terrorist,
you know,
un-American.
I,
you know,
helped get Zoron elected,
you know,
like I told him all this stuff.
And he was like,
not having it at all.
No.
And then after that,
I challenged him.
I said,
I'm a bigger MAGA than you.
Like,
I,
you know,
I have a higher MAGA level than you do.
And he's like,
hell,
no,
you doubt.
And I was like,
I started pulling out different things.
And I think I disarmed him a little bit with the,
with the hat,
with the comical,
The comical hat and the other thing that totally threw him for a loop is when you started mentioning that you pay for your entire family.
He's like, that's good on you, man.
That's a check for you.
Oh, yeah, that too.
Yeah.
When he found out that it was wealthy, he started to respect me.
Yeah.
He started calling you sir and shit.
Yeah, it was weird.
I don't know why.
But like, I think I have this theory that, and it's not like that crazy of a theory to have, I think.
I think everyone wants what's best for this country.
Everyone wants what's best for others.
I disagree.
But I think there's a side that's quite more selfish.
Yes.
Very selfish.
I think like there is definitely a level of selfishness and self-interest.
And there's a way to talk to people like that.
There's a way to design the argument that like they kind of get it.
You can lean into certain qualities or certain things that they actually care about.
For example, like competitiveness.
Like that's the reason why I was consistently talking about like how education is important
because we want to have a competitive labor force.
We don't want the Chinese to have, you know,
smarter, more intelligent engineers than us, right?
That's why we've got to make education free.
So, like, there is a way to have that conversation.
But I think at the end of the day, a lot of these people, like,
they're misguided.
They're misguided on what they think is actually going to make this country a better
place.
And I think, like, over the many, many years, they become, like, more and more selfish.
But that's often my position.
Like, they, their starting point is always going to be good.
No one is born an evil person, right?
It's a sequence of events and social learning and learned behavior that causes you to become the person that you are.
I think the other thing that, like, was very aptly depicted in your conversation with that family is I think there is this unwillingness to believe that there is a better way.
I think a lot of people grew up in a, like, 60s, 70s, 80s, America.
and they think that the challenges that they had to overcome are inherent to the human condition.
And when you talk about something like free college, they're like, yes, it is a great idea,
but they treat it like the tooth fairy, where they're like, there's simply no way that this can be made manifest.
And if you're telling me this, you're trying to sell me something.
Yes.
And then they, but they refuse to go down any kind of logical threat of, well, here's the possibility.
and here's how it would inherently make things better.
Or here's how it works in other countries.
They're like, no.
I don't care.
It's like, dude, what do you mean?
We're the only OECD nation that doesn't have these things.
And I think that tracks back to a level of nationalism
where they think that the United States is so fundamentally
the best country in the world that even imagining another country
doing something superior to us is poppy cock and.
Yeah.
You know what I find interesting about wealthy people and specifically people that were
successful in previous generations is a lot of people attribute their wealth and success to the
hard work that they put in. Oh my God, I know. And look, I'm not going to discredit. Sure,
hard work. No, I'll discredit. Hold on the way. Hard work is, is, is necessary. But just because
you work hard doesn't guarantee your success. And a lot of the thing, what they fail to recognize
is the privileges that their generation had over the current generation. Absolutely. So this is the one
thing that's manifested in my opinion on this is a lot of people have generational wealth.
and then they're like, I'm going to keep it for myself and not give any to my children because I want them to work hard and whatever, yada, yada, yada.
I'm just like, well, you know, again, like, obviously this is a different situation because, you know, this is generational wealth.
It's a completely different thing.
But they always think that if you work that hard, you are going to have that wealth.
And they don't understand that the people in the current generation and the current landscape of the world don't have these same privileges afforded to them.
The cost of living is unaffordable.
They can't afford housing.
They can't afford education.
There's many things that are not accessible to them.
And this is very, this is fundamentally important,
very different job market landscape in general.
Where like they think,
boomers genuinely fucking think a firm handshake
and like, you know, looking them right dead in the eyes
is going to get you a fucking job.
And then you sit there and you work through the ranks
and you get your fucking golden bracelet Rolex on the time,
on your way out of the company with a fucking pension.
That shit doesn't exist anymore.
Because good, look, all of us sitting here in this room
are living examples of the time.
We're like, look, yeah, we've worked hard.
I mean, most of us in the room have worked hard, right?
I'm discrediting you myself, of course.
But, like, most of it, you know, we've all worked hard,
but it is ridiculous to ignore the fact that to some degree,
all of us were in the right place at the right time
to be able to capitalize on the opportunities that we have.
Sure, there's a tremendous amount of talented people on this planet
that could do what we do.
Bro.
We happen to have the right, the opportunity.
There are school teachers that after a long day at the school go and do Uber delivery.
Okay?
I'm sorry.
That person works a million times harder and is an infinitely more valuable worker for America
for America's future than fucking Elon Musk is.
And the mentality that a lot of people have is like, no, just because Elon Musk has more money,
he's a better person, he's more moral.
Like it's this prosperity gospel mentality that a lot of people have that stems from the Calvinist tradition.
and I am endlessly frustrated having to deal with that kind of stuff.
The other thing that's frustrating is the association that wealth has to intelligence.
It does not.
It doesn't.
There's so many dumb fucking rich people.
Yes.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yes.
I feel like look at us.
Good example that you don't have to be this, you know, brilliant.
Me too.
I don't know what a tuminal means?
No.
Exactly.
Do you?
No.
I do now.
Is it real?
What is that?
No, you missed a sound.
It's of, what?
You missed a sound.
Atumnal.
Oh, okay.
Atumnal.
It's of autumn.
So, like, if I say it's very autumnal, it means it's of autumn.
So it's like very, it's like autumn.
What is it like French or something?
It's English.
Oh, it's.
See?
Like, we don't know these words.
No, we don't.
No, but I had the right, right place, right time.
Right, you know what besmirch is?
No.
Thank you so much.
What is that?
Thank you so.
This is coming from someone that is trying to become a reader.
I'm trying to read this year.
And I haven't read it all the recent.
Maybe that's why we don't know what research means.
Yeah, no.
There's a lot of words I don't know.
Yeah.
But look, also, I don't think intelligence is measured by how many words you know.
I think that I think it's how you use your talents and capabilities.
Just because I don't have pretty word don't mean I'm an idiot.
But like, I think that there's a level of social intelligence and being aware.
Absolutely.
Especially in this nowadays.
Like you can make a living.
With the power of the internet, anything's possible.
Like I'll give you an example.
Today I was on a plane and I was sitting next to a woman and I could not help but tell her why we were landing on a particular runway.
Right?
I was like, I couldn't help it, you know?
And I have the social intelligence to be aware of that, but I couldn't help myself.
What does that have to do with anything?
You just brought it up because you wanted to bring up a plane.
Sorry before we end the show because we are at time.
Wait, it's already over?
Well, we have a paywalled episode at Patreon.
dot com slash fear end but ray where can people find you thank you so much for coming on
you can find me at whine about it my podcast with cutie cinderella who we miss very much we also
have a patreon uh that is um way better than fear ants but we'll see there well hold on but before we go
to that before you go to that patreon and spend absorbance amounts of money which i i love a lot of
people were telling me they're like wow this is fucking expensive yeah yeah go to fear and
patreon it's much less it's much more cost effective yeah yeah you get more bang for your book
that's right right jeff from me that's right
That's not true.
We have segments on wine about it.
Well, so do we.
Oh, yeah.
Do you guys do gaming together?
No.
Do you guys have calling confessions?
We're starting a new segment where we all jerk off together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I'm down.
You're saying that hasn't been a segment yet.
Tier four is just all of us.
Just me, Marsh,
Yeah.
Hassan, Will.
Sometimes we throw a guest in there.
And what are you jacking off too?
You do that a lot now.
What is this?
This is a new thing.
You ever just put your money?
egg up and get real into it.
Funny man.
Can you see it?
It's a funny guy.
He's just a funny guy.
I actually don't like this funniest.
Don't shut off the podcast yet.
Damn it.
All right.
We'll see you on the Patreon.
That's great.
Can't light this fire to save his life or mine.
They didn't even provide lighter fluid, Ray?
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
Not only was I pissed because he, like, said he could do it and he couldn't.
He was a little, he was a lot afraid.
the fire. He just like wasn't, I'm like yelling him like, put the newspaper under the big wood.
You put the little wood in and then you've got to rub it really quickly, which you think he'd be good at.
Terrible.
With how much he's sucking and fucking. You think he'd be able to do it. But he's not.
I'm like, I'm very competitive, right? So I'm like, Austin, get your fucking shit together.
You can't even do this in a controlled environment.
Oh, no, this is this day I learned a lot. This is years of resentment.
Yeah. No.
Justin, because I worry about you, okay?
Like, I realize if you were out in the wilderness,
you're right.
You would die.
You're right, I would.
