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Episode Date: March 24, 2025

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Okay, are you ready for this? 7.36 AM? 7.40. That's four minutes of hang time up there. He just stays up there. you know what we're about then. Where you know, can we film the whole show? Yeah, it's fake. It's not a real podcast.

We're going to talk about made up situations where I'm gonna tell you like, we're doing Sigma Grindset. I'm gonna act like I'm making $10,000 for everybody that joins my Discord server. That's what we're about. You completely misunderstood everything from the clips. We're in a testosterone crisis in this country.

This is a Sigma Grindset podcast. I'm also faking my homosexuality. So we can have like, yeah, we call my D I hire and we're hiding that we're gay so that we could be more alpha. And he's faking that he's gay, even though he's straight. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the fear and podcasts, or we have a very special guest Grammy award winner friend of the show Phineas what's up guys? How's it going? Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. How are you doing today?

I'm sorry. Thank you for being here on short notice because I'm gonna keep it real we they We almost had a vTuber on called Iron Mouse. And I've been trying to connect with you for some time now and I was like, oh man, I'm gonna do this last second Hail Mary, I'm gonna be like Phineas, you wanna come on? Tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. and lo and behold, you're here. You said you were down to do it.

I feel like, I don't know if you guys relate to this or not, like to me, months in advance or the next day is like the, is the sweet spot in my scheduling life. If you're saying, what are you doing in six days? I'm much more hesitant to commit to something than I am if it's like tomorrow morning. And I know what I'm doing the next day. So I'll just show up. It's like a Schrodinger schedule.

If it's six days out, I don't know what's happening. Anything could happen. I wish, I wish I could have that where like I can schedule something months ahead. I cannot do that ever. That's how you have to be with this podcast too. Yeah, I feel like an on call doctor because I live in the Pacific Northwest up in Portland, Oregon, and I'm just I sit by the phone to wait till we're going to film and then I get on the plane.

We also have a bit where Austin just fucking lies there. Up in Portland, Oregon, huh, and I'm just I sit by the phone to wait till we're gonna film and then I get on the plane We also have a bit where Austin just fucking lies to every guest about how he's the victim No of his own of his own circumstances that he designed for himself Where we've been doing this podcast for how many two years now with you two years two years? You've known me for a couple minutes. You can clearly tell Two years you can clearly tell the gas One of the main things that we were that we that we presented initially was like Austin You're gonna move to Los Angeles and he has not moved to Los Angeles for the past two years

Yeah, he knows how expensive the real estate is rich of him to assume that I could just move on a whim. I have a family. No, you've told us that you're moving multiple times. That's true. And also you have money. For over a year and a half. That's true, but it's tied up in mutual funds and things like that. We don't know exactly what he does.

We don't know how he makes money aside from the podcast, but he has money. Of course he knows how I make money. We don't know. I see him, when I go out to the Pacific Northwest, I see him dressed as Eddie Redmayne from the Fantastic Beasts and where to find them roaming around empty wizard's hat Assigned for a furniture store, so I take it you've been to Portland. I love Portland. Oh man. Yeah For sure I love it there. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's awesome. I feel like you would have made a Portlandia cameo years ago. Had my short window of clout aligned with that show's window of clout. Overlapped with Fred Armisen's independent Portland project. That would have been my version of being on Dave, would have been Portlandia. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Have you been on Dave? I was on Dave, yeah. Oh, OK. That's subtle flex, by the way. You just dropped that been on Dave I was on Dave yeah oh okay that's subtle flex by the way you just know I'm just making the point of like that's the current no that was the last five years I like our Dave our day yeah yeah is tomorrow's Fear and podcast. Oh, there you go. Holy shit, that was a shot in the dark. I'm gonna be it's gonna be tomorrow's like Bob House.

There's no more White House fireside chat. We're not we don't have we're not making content anymore. We're we're not making movies and TV shows anymore. It's just content. So I think that it's done. We're the next meta is going to devolve. Pinius, spectacularly. Before we get too far into any conversation.

Okay. I've been threatened by gun violence to tell you this. We have another host on the show that's usually here. Cutie Cinderella. Have they been ousted for my seat? What's going on? No, she's, she's just left us for a while. I see you to vacation.

And this is her message to us. Let him talk the whole time. Pick apart his beautiful mind. Austin, don't tell any fucking stories about planes. Hassan, tune down your autism. Will you're perfect. You can read that. Yeah, I saw that. I'm so mad.

Fuck, fuck, fuck. Damn it. Oh, wait, why was cutie Cinderella mad? Oh, that's right, because she's in fucking Utah for the past, what, 11 months now. She just fucked off and did a tour of some of the worst states in this country. Okay.

Okay. And then landed on Utah, which is all right. It's fine. Hassan, let's let Phineas. No, I'm actually not letting Phineas talk because of that All right, it's fine. Hassan, let's let Finneas. No, I'm actually not letting Finneas talk because of that fucking text message. But yeah, no, she really, she's a big fan and is very bummed that she couldn't be here.

And then, yeah. Does Cutie Cinderella use a government name or do we prefer that? We actually, this is interesting. No one knows her government name. Okay, interesting. She's fully alias So I yeah, and I we call her cutie, which is like in public. It's kind of you know I don't know I feel awkward calling her cutie. I'm never even know. I'm no I'm no I'm

Look, I'm a gay man obviously, but that doesn't go into it. It's just the fact of like you know You call woman toots before. I don't know. Just calling her cutie. I don't know. I get weird looks in public. Hey cutie, you know, it seems a little not of the times. I used to feel, I used to feel very awkward. I don't know if it's like the same in your space, but I used to feel very awkward as like, you know, in my late twenties when I started doing this influencer stuff or Twitch streaming in general, and everybody had a call sign.

Yep. And you just refer to people by not their government name, but what their screen name is. And I've always found that to be so strange. I'm just super used to it now. I do. I completely agree. And I would say that in the music world, which is I'm more

aligned with that in the music world, you is, I'm more aligned with that. In the music world, you meet a, you know, Baby No Money's name was invoked before this. Yeah. What's their government name? Alex. Alex, right. But like that's a good, where like I would refer to them in a conversation as Baby No Money.

I don't know that person, but I'm just saying that's how I, and maybe they're not this way, but other musician friends are like, it's Alex. And I'm like, no, dude, I'm gonna call you with a name that people are gonna understand when I'm referring to you. That's how it like, I'm with you. If I have a friend who's got a-

Do you have any aliases or gamer tags? No, I mean, I made, oh yeah, my- Let me get the gamer tag. I can't say the gamer tag. What? Then my Fortnite game will be all fucked up. I can't, I don't wanna say it then all my fortnight game will be all fucked up Seriously say it will bleep it will bleep it we have an editor. Yeah, it's

Am I actually Yeah That's that's a rip. All right. Cut all that. Cut all that. That's he had a hilarious game or tag. That's yeah. I killed. Yeah. Yeah. Are you public about your game or tags? You stream you buy? Yeah, it's everything's nobody wants to game. I also I also put my you seen him game.

I can't even. It's correct. Well, what is this? I'm not. I'm not my character. I'm not saying you're better. I'm not good. I'm sure you can pass he can't I Am I will admit I'm not the best gamer There are certain games that I'm very good at it or above average at but overall No, no, I was from software games. I'm like above average at like I'll cook like everyone talks shit when you play games on stream. Everybody does. And there's one where they're

respecting you. Yeah. And it, but it's kind of funny cause like you have professional like e-sports players and their chats talking shit to them. So like, which is awesome. Yeah. Where it's like, dude, this guy's like the LeBron James of flicking. You know what I mean? Like you can't, you can't come close to him. But I know that I'm good at from software games or at least above average, because everyone used to talk shit when I would play Eldering. So I did this thing one day when I was like, I posted up and I was like, all right, pull up. And I beat the shit out of every single one of my fans in duels in Eldering. Like, 32 in a row. But this is so lame. You're like Kevin Durant, like a guy who has time just to actually shit on his name.

This is the lamest thing to admit, but it felt so rewarding. Yeah, sure. Because sometimes those comments get to you. People say you're bad at gaming. Because the comment gets to you when you know it's a lie. No, the comment gets to you when you know it's true. No, but you proved that it was a lie. You beat them all.

Yeah. Do you let any comments get to you? I'm famously oblivious to the comments. A sort of a common denominator in my life is that like once or twice a year, a close friend of mine will send me a text and I'll go, I just wanna say, what they're saying about you is fucked up. And I'm like, what are they saying?

I'm like, oh fuck, what are they saying? I never know. You entertain it, like you ask them? I'll be like, oh shit, I was like, should I, is it something I should address? And they're like, oh, and I'm like, all right, nevermind. I was like should I is it something I should address and they're like, uh, I Know some of it. I'm not like I'm in the comments on other people shit. Like I'm very much like comment like like I'm being a hater

I'm a hater. Yeah, I'm in the comments. I'm in the comments hating. I like to remain channel on the main. Oh hell Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's the most hateful comment you've written? Like that. On the main. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the most hateful comment you've written? I was watching a TikTok skit one time of like maybe a girl and her boyfriend

doing like a little like improv-y skit and I just commented, hard to watch. That's crazy. I mean, in all fairness, it probably was fairly hard to watch. It's fucking hard to watch. There's a lot of hard to watch things. Somebody's gotta say.

That's so tough. That's wild. It was hard to watch. Seeing the check lot of hard to watch things. Somebody's gotta say. That's so tough. That's wild. It was hard to watch. Seeing the check mark. To go back to your streamers interacting and being negative, a favorite phenomenon of mine, as I stay up really late at night and I watch the potato, the jacket potato guys in England.

Oh, Spud. Spud Man and Spud Bros and Spud Man. Yeah. And what are their content? No, you have to pull this up so that Will has a frame of reference. It's so English. It's the coldest line you've ever seen

in a community square. In the grayest community square. It's amazing. Look at the color filter. Spud Man. Okay, so I'll explain it while we get this loaded. And this guy has a GoPro, a head-mounted GoPro, and he's like, right then, what you want today?

And they load the biggest jacket potato, a baked potato, they cut a slit in it, it's steaming because it's so cold in England, they put a full stick of butter in it, and then they put a full cup of Heinz tomato beans and crispy onions and sour cream and a full bag of shredded cheddar cheese it's fucking insane so I grew up eating here we go look at how great it is look at

the it's so great all the people are great middle of summer yeah yeah no this is the brightest day in England okay answer cheese and sweet corn cheese and sweet corn morning guys look at you by the end of it you can't even see the potato yeah so this is spud army I'm not even familiar with this again we just found random guy this is the wrong British guy this is why I bring it up because all of the comments on all of them So like you go to spud bros account all the comments are spud man better That's all the comments are them leveling each other's but and there's now a couple a couple dudes in LA They have that have taken the public, you know

I pee of this thing and they have an LA thing called Spud Guy LA, which I frequent, and all the comments are like, all the comments are like, fuck you, God, there's so many. I love it, this is maybe one of the most talented guests we've ever had on the pod, and we're like, what are you doing? Yeah, no, this is Spud Guys. What are you talking about, fucking music?

Are you kidding me? This is the shit that we have to talk about. Oh man, I'm becoming a spud about fucking music. Are you kidding me? This is the talk about oh man I yeah, yeah, I'm becoming a bigger fan, but okay Oh, you thought you thought we were gonna talk about like no Finneas really in mind of any is riveted right now Yes, but man, but I punching the air will you have a business. I do have a business I sell hot sauce you sell hot sauce now What if I told you there was a place to sell that stuff online? What?

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if you could sell something quick? Three, two, one penises. Fuck. Sorry. Let's do that again. I don't know. So here's the thing. So this is in Turkey, this is called kumpir. We eat it as well. I've grown up eating it. It's actually delicious. It's so good.

It actually is delicious. You've had these potatoes. I've gone to Glendale. I've had the. I will say this though. Is that how you became a fan originally? You liked the potatoes? No, I would sit in bed at three in the morning

and watch and be like, that looks good. And then you ate the potatoes. And it was so good. You tracked it down. That's bold of you to say, because I was about to say, in Turkey, they do it with, I think it's called like Russian salad,

which is like a potato salad, basically. Like they put a bunch of different things in it, ketchup and little like pieces of sausage that they cut up. In England, they put the most English shit you've ever seen. I know, I know, I know. Some of them are disgusting. When I saw the first couple of videos,

I was like, this is ridiculous. And then I went and it was amazing. And it's really good. It tastes a little bit like you should bring Kaya because you, they're like, you're eating dog food. Like you're eating like a tray of slaw. I'll give my little dog moose a little bit of a forkful or whatever. But

they're carrying on all these traditions. I showed up the other day at Spud Guy LA and they were like, and I was like, Hey, can I get, and then he starts doing it and then he goes, chat's going crazy now, bro. And I was like, what? And I looked up and they were fucking live streaming. And I was like, how many viewers you got? got he was like 80 Okay, so we have to do a roll stream to the we got to go to like yeah, that's right There's one on the USC campus. There's one in Glenda. Are they all British or they just Armenian? Oh, and they all film which is like the opposite of being British The guy with the mohawk is Armenian?

Because I saw, he pulled up like a spud guy. And he had like a spud guy LA. Those guys were Armenian. And the ones I've interacted with are Armenian. Maybe not. Sorry? Where'd you get on your spud? What's the funniest spud order?

I went and I said, I get cheese and beans and sour cream and crispy onions are really good. Yeah. Chives and jalapenos. I wonder if the 80 people in the chat went to Spud guy and were like, yo, give me the- Then I take my girlfriend. My girlfriend goes, and she goes, can I get the,

can you do less? I don't really want any butter. And he goes, that's basically no butter. He was like, what is this? And she's like, yeah, yeah. And then she was like, she's very, what's the internet? She's Demure. So she's like, I'm full.

You should've checked her though. Like she has to have butter. He was like, that's basically no butter. And then she gets like, she's like, that's enough beans and that's enough. She's very sweet about it. And he's like, he's making our whole thing kind of shaking in the head.

And then my friend who's a Philistine like me gets up and this bud guy goes, all right, bro, impress me. Which I thought was sick. And he's like, big bottle. With his order this bug guy goes, all right bro, impress me. Which I thought was sick. With his order, he's like, all right, I'll get everything, whatever, I'll get everything. And then I was like, I don't have cash on me. I was like, do you have Venmo? And he goes, I just use it for gambling, bro.

And I was like. I was like. I was like. Why did he volunteer that information? He's a fantastic guy. I go, can I pay you in Venmo? And he goes, I'll gamble it, bro. And I go, cool, man.

And he goes, if I win, I'll pay you back. I have not been paid back. That's amazing. I like how they kind of chirp you a little bit. But that to me felt like they were, they had understood what the, cause if you watch the English guys, they're like, yes, how's it going then they're very gruff with the whole thing.

So I thought the fact that he was, I just mumbled, but the fact that he's kind of rubbing you, rubbing you the wrong way is on purpose. I like to impress me. Impress, bro, impress me. Quadruple butter. Impress. Yeah, just all the butter. Anyway, I digress. I wish that the Armenian guys would be doing a British accent

Bro What you want you fucking spud lad yeah um Spud bros is a great TikTok vibe. And today I wanted to bring up another great TikTok vibe. Oh, shit, you came prepared. I came prepared. Wow. Because, Phineas, you're all over TikTok. I wonder if you saw this, deep sigh.

I wonder if you saw this new guy that has been going super viral on Twitter. His name is Ashton Hall. Oh, you were going to talk about him? Send him the video. It's already in your fucking inbox. I have multiple videos that I want to show you, but let's get started on the one that went viral for a second. The Patrick Bateman morning routine. Ashton Hall. Yes. The man has titties. Okay, trigger warning for the folks at home. Put a goddamn bra on man. What are you doing? So timeline. Look at those tythons though man. This video went, this video did insane numbers on Twitter. It's got 300 million views. His titties are so distracting that no one in this room

has talked about the fact that he taped his fucking mouth. Oh yeah, I'm gonna talk about that too. I hate that shit. That trend is crazy to me. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's crazy. And every, my least favorite thing about TikTok is that like every now and then,

there's so many like secret ads, especially with the TikTok shop. I fucking hate, I agree. And they'll be like, this person lost 700 pounds. And then it's like an AI mouth on the, they've modified the Gary Brekka interview to be. Yeah. It's so fucking annoying.

Elon Musk talking about mouth tape. Yeah, I love taping my mouth. It's the only way I can get some sleep in the White House is this mouth tape brand, but this you can get on TikTok shop and it's crazy. That was really good. He's two for two on impression. Oh my God.

Yeah, that was actually. Can we get audio? Yeah, we got to get the audio. Jamie, pull that up. Yeah. Yeah, it does. I feel like you're waiting on the Jamie. Pull that up.

Feels good, right? All right. 3, 4 a.m. Now, 4, 0, 1. Yeah, it takes him a minute to get a totally different camera angle. Three, four AM. Now, 401. Yeah. A minute to get a totally different camera. It takes him a minute because he's got to set up the camera outside. Yeah.

Or for I need you to pay attention to one thing. He has Saratoga water, which I don't mean to delay this. Can we go back? Yeah. All right. He's got the 408. All right. So all right. So 404 is doing pushups. Yeah. with the Saratoga water next to him. Okay, so 417 presumably

He's working push-ups. No, no, he did push-ups until force 17. Yeah, and then what's the next timestamp? Okay So you spent five minutes? Yeah Is he meditating? Yeah, he's meditating. Okay, you're you're picking a part like the time stamp. You're definitely paying close attention, which is good. Yeah, because notice how he moved the book. That was a two minute process. Yeah, like what is happening there? He's journaling. No, no, before he journal. He's journals for two minutes. He looked at it and he went like that. Hears slam. He's so ripped. Yeah, he's jacked.

He's so hot. He looks big. He's gonna be so rich about the Lord's business. He watches, yeah, oh, stop. Motivational videos. In the mouth tape, what do you guys think about the nose opening thing? You gotta do the nose opening thing.

If you're gonna do the mouth tape, you gotta pair it with nose magnets. I can't do either. Because one opens up your nostrils so you can breathe from your nose man. I can't do either because one So you can breathe from your nose, but on who's that one tried mouth tape? No, I can't even do with a mustache It's so hard. No, I'll feel like I'm suffocating. Yeah Really? Yeah, well, I was on tik-tok, dude He's he's getting this I'm on tour and on tour like so hard to sleep on a tour bus And so I try anything helps. No, I didn't find it. Okay

Like so hard to sleep on a tour bus and so I to try anything helps. No, I didn't find it It helped other guys though. Really? Do they not have mustaches? No, maybe I will try it cuz it just comes right off. It just can't great I can't purchase I have to like tape my face Help you sleep. Yeah, it's supposed to make you breathe through your dog If you if you believe tick tock, it does everything. Yeah. They will literally be like, it improved my IQ. Like they're trying to sell this thing so hard. It's crazy. They talk about how it helps you lose weight, makes you have a more

defined jawline, makes you stop snoring. All this stuff is just your bad breath. Drop shipping. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, okay, so, but you guys are pro nose strip. I don't care about either of these things. Have you ever done it? No. Is that supposed to help you sleep too, or does it help you breathe? I think it just helps you breathe, which helps you sleep.

I think the Breathe Right, which was the Kleenex brand of nose strip, I think is sort of the same end goal as the mouth tape. It's all to make you breathe through your nose, which is supposed to keep you asleep. I used to use it when I was sick. Keep you from snoring. Did you breathe right?

Yeah, I used to use that when I was sick, but it didn't really work. Just use Methyl tux as ozone like the rest of us. The thing that you, the Afrin stuff. Afrin, yeah. Just get addicted to that. Yeah, that's what I did. It's the fucking best.

That's what I did, I've done it, it's the best. It's a miracle drug. You breathe better than you ever have before. 100%. It's fucking crazy. And when you stop taking it it that kind of come down is because you're like, oh, I never without this Methyl oxytocin. Yeah, I never breathe that well ever in my life. Is that the generic name for the drug? It's something close to I thought it was just a nephrine. No epinephrine No, epinephrine is the thing that you push when you're allergic to something like the Epi pen

Yeah, like Epi pen. Yeah, but I thought it was a nephrine was and then the brand name was after okay I don't want to I don't let's go through we need to see more ashenhall. So right now. It's 45 he hasn't done anything He's done like 20. He's been over three hours. Yeah, he's never three hours. He's done like 20 push-ups Okay, and maybe you know a little bit. Yeah scribbled a little bit in his notebook now He's getting a live sermon from his tiktok. He's an iPad kid. What is so he uses Saratoga water to ice? Yes, he puts Saratoga water, which is apparently I did a deep dive on this guy yesterday because he was fascinating to me That's an upstate New York brand. That's like eight dollars a pop Okay, and I don't know if he actually- So ripped.

Fills that- So ripped. The fucking traps, dude. Yeah. Crazy traps. Yeah, it's really funny, because the part that he doesn't show is just the insane stack he's on.

Yeah. Which is definitely, I mean, he definitely works hard. That's before the video starts. 325, moose testosterone. Yeah, he's putting it like That's before the video starts. 325. Moose testosterone. Yeah, he's putting it like a heroin addict. Putting it through the feet. Webbing of his feet. Yeah. Yeah. Worthy.

No drip. By the way, ass. Worthy. Ass. I thought the outfit looked pretty good. Exactly. My point exactly. This motherfucker puts on the vanquif and the rollie and rings to go sprint on a fucking treadmill. I'm so angry.

This was the part that made me lose my mind. But see when you're that big, you kind of make anything look good. No, he's sprinting on a treadmill with his rollie. Rolex. Oh, I didn't see that part. So weird. Yeah, why'd you put the a treadmill with his Rolik. Oh, I didn't see that part. So weird. Yeah, why'd you put the, why'd you put the jewelry on?

Ooh, good form. All right, go back, go back, this is a very important part. How come he comes out of the pool dry? Yeah, because good question. He gets out of the pool and he's dry. Watch this, he has hang time. Okay, are you ready for this? 7.36 AM, 7.40.

Wow. That's four minutes of hang time up there he just stays up there gets out of the pool and he's dry dry yeah yeah oh he was kind of the service worker a lot of shampoo he's really winning me over now. He showered in the Rolex. He showered in the Rolex and the ring! This shit is crazy. The banana peel rub on the face, I've never seen this. This is new tech.

Yeah, and he eats the banana in a not-gay way, by the way. He snaps the banana. He does the kill, he kills it. He does the humane kill. Yeah, you can't be sucking on it. If you leave it dick-shaped, it ruins the whole video. You gotta break it. You have to snap it.

He snapped it. He's not Shallan, he's doing this. He's like Duke Dennis, he's like, oh man. Do you guys actually eat bananas like that? No. No. I gag on it, dude. Yeah. I showed that shit.

Okay, he's back. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. So his girlfriend enters the fray now. This is like, now you get to find out there's more to it. There's more lore. Now- The tight blazer is too- What's interesting about this- Is too bad. Is that I think this is a different lady

than the other videos. I did a deep dive. Oh. The other- Trouble in paradise. Significantly more pale complexion on the hand. Wow. In all of the other videos. And you'll see- This is his romantic partner, not his bowl.

His water bowl. Uh, it is implied that this is a romantic partner because he also is a man servant, which I will show you in the other videos is who looks very cool. What do you do for a living? I carry this guy's. I'm the serratoga ice bowl attache. Yeah. Yeah.

He's already, by the way, if you're keeping count $32 of Serratoga. He's also been up for seven hours. Yeah, I woke up at 9 0 6. He's been up for seven hours. He's on the Mark Wahlberg calendar. This part is amazing because now you're going to figure out what he does for a living, which is he doesn't like fully tell you anyway, and you will never fully understand it because this is the most Miami job of all time. Yeah. He is.

He is Miami. Wait, wait, wait. This is important. Run that back. Yeah. Listen to this. What does he say? So looking at it, bro, we got to go ahead and get in at least 10,000.

At least 10,000. At least. That's a Discord guy. That guy has a... But looking at it, bro, we gotta get in at least 10,000. Okay, minor note. Fake number. Minor note. Go back to that speech, the only time he speaks. There's two cuts in it, which is correct. No, no, no, no, watch, watch, watch, watch. So looking at it, bro, we gotta go ahead and get in at least 10,000. There's a cut there, so he couldn't even say that line. So do you think, I don't like the smashed avocado

I just sliced, dude, I can't endorse that. More Saratoga water. $38 of Saratoga. Yeah, so do we think he he said looking at it, bro, we gotta get in. And the guy said how much and he said at least $10,000. He cut the guy out. Now, $10,000 is a number that comes back a lot in Ashton Hall's videos. I think he was ordering a pallet of Saratoga water. Hey least $10,000 or is that like 10? Hey, I do inventory for your daily videos. We need enough water to last three days. At least 10,000.

Looking at it, bro, we got to get in at least 10,000 for my three-day supply of Saratoga. By the way, that's 9 a.m. He's got another presumably seven, eight hours of Saratoga water. No, that's what you would think. Does he go to bed at 5 p.m.? I don't know exactly what time he goes to bed, but that would make sense, right? seven, eight hours of Saratoga water. No, that's what you would think. Does he go to bed at 5 p.m.?

I don't know exactly what time he goes to bed, but that would make sense, right? There's a lot that, as someone who cares about fitness and health, there's a lot that's wrong with what he's doing there, specifically waking up at three and then doing fuck all until 9 a.m. You should have just slept. You would have had-

Yeah, the sleep is the important part of the thing. I agree. You would have had much better gains overall. I don't think he does this every day, but it's really awesome because what does he do when it's you know daylight? What does he do after nine when he does the looking at it bro at least we get 10,000. Does he post it? Yeah sometimes. March, can you pull up Ashton Hall's TikTok, please? Austin, show, you've said many times you wanna smell like Mount Fuji. I really do, cause I love Mount Fuji.

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Now in Espanol. Oh, nice. Let's see what Ashton does. By the way, while he's pulling this up, Ashton has spawned an entire ecosystem of Patrick Bateman morning routine. Wait, did you also send him the other link as well? I did not, but I saw it. Oh my, yes.

I didn't send him the link. I have it like right here. Dude, our cycles have synced. I know. Look at this. Ashton Hall going viral. And I have like the OG version. So we've been friends too long.

This is a mess. So here So this guy is the this guy's the og but we need to do more Ashton Hall because like Ashton Hall is a What? What what? What are we doing? We're pulling up the video? Yeah, is that the yeah? I just sent him and also our our thing beverages Yeah, thank you, dude. You just gotta make sure you open the door from the the Is that the cold brew? I just sent him and also our thing came out. Our beverages. Okay. Yeah. Thank you, dude.

You just gotta make sure you open the door from the button over there. Nope. Oh, never mind. What about Balkan Breakfast? You guys on Balkan Breakfast? What's Balkan Breakfast? So Balkan Breakfast is originally a Turkish guy. It's a Turkish dude that eats like a poor man's meal. He eats like a hard baguette and a tomato and pepper in alternating bites.

And normally you're deconstructed sandwich. We'll pull that up in a second too. Like I grew up on that. When you say this, this is this man's entire content. He does it every day. Yeah, you'll see why though. You'll see it's captivating. It's captivating.

He's taking really big bites. Yeah, it'll see why though you're captivating. It's he's taking really big bite Yeah, it's it's amazing and it is literally something that people like I eat that when I was growing up I would eat that all the time right? You just take the bites. Well, not like him. He eats like a like an animal, but you have little slices of stuff Yeah, I love how you take credit for so many things being Turkish. It's actually Turkish. He's a guy who just takes big bites of a baguette and a tomato. So I was like, that started in the Ottoman Empire.

No, no, no. Well, there is a, the concept is called Balkan breakfast now, but like, yeah, the OG is, uh, the OG is a, the concept is called Balkan breakfast now, but like, yeah, the OG is, the OG is a Turkish dude. I got a regular cold brew and I have straws. I'll pick them up. That's gotta be the vanilla. Vanilla, oatmeal. Single shot. Did you get me regular?

Cold brew. Is it regular or decaf? Did you just ask if that's decaf? Yeah, I've been on a decaf. You order a decaf, oat milk, vanilla latte. I did, but we'll see if that's decaf? Yeah, I've been on a decaf. You order a decaf oat milk vanilla latte? I did, but we'll see if it's decaf or not. No way it's decaf. Just get a chocolate milk and fine.

I like the taste of coffee. I've been trying to, but you decaf, you actually get a little caffeine in it. Not too much. You turned that last time. That's a TikTok fact. No, it's a Google fact. Actually, there's still a little bit of caffeine.

No, there is. You can't even decaffeinate the beans. There is, there is. It's like 20, 30 milligrams. Yeah, but that's a little bit like saying there's, you know. A little alcohol and non-alcoholic beer? Yeah, well, same. Yeah, that's true.

Thank you, boss. That's true, there's a little alcohol and non-alcoholic beer, and there's a little caffeine and non-caffeinated coffee. Yeah. The more you know. Okay. I wish I could drink. That's true. There's a little alcohol and non-alcoholic beer and there's a little caffeine and non-caffeinated coffee. The more you know. Okay. I wish I could drink.

I drink like one or two coffees a day and there's a time of day where I can't keep drinking them because then I stay up all night. I don't have like, it's, I still have, it has efficacy, but I love the, if I'm suddenly talking like Ben Shapiro, I love it. Yeah, no. I love when my clip is faster. Yeah. You know. I'm suddenly talking like Ben Shapiro, I love it. Yeah, no. I love when my clip is faster.

Yeah. You know. I'm a crackhead. I run on, I slam two espresso shots. And coffee and the whole thing. Yeah, you got the juice. Yeah, and doing a Zin while you drink your cold brew is nasty. It's a coffee Zin.

You know what my father would talk to you about that he loves that is Turkish, is the Turkish barber. That's my dad's fucking jam. Dude. Yeah. Okay, there's so many methods. Can I ask you a question that'll benefit my dad? Is there any Turkish barber in LA?

Not that I know of. Because we go the place where there are the most that we go regularly is London, is full of Turkish barbers. And also Germany. My dad, if we swear to God, my dad comes on tour with us as a carpenter. we go regularly is London is full of Turkish barbers. And also Germany. Dad, if we swear to God, my dad comes on tour with us as a carpenter.

And he, if we have our tour calendar for the year and there's like two London visits, plans his haircuts. I love that. I'm gonna get a haircut in March in London and then I'm gonna get another haircut in August. Can you put me on what is different about Turkish barber? Everything. Okay.

Fucking everything. It's a full service experience. Massage, it's an oil, they're doing the flaming thing that they're smacking on the ear and burning the hair off the ear. Oh my God, he comes out of it. He comes out of there looking crazy. He looks insane. I had a Turkish haircut, at least I thought, in Germany. Maybe he was lying about being Turkish.

Wait, he didn't set you on fire? He must have been on a home run. No, it was in Germany. I don't know. Are you often this short on the beard? Yeah, yes. Because he's got a big beard, and I think that when you got a big beard,

they go harder. They have more oils and more shaping. More fire snacks. They did, at the time it was longer, and they did like the little curve. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I see some Turkish Barbary? Yeah.

Barbary, Pueblo of Barbary. One of the most famous ones, the old guy. One of the most famous ones is the old guy who like will crack your back. That's right, that's right. He goes crazy. Crack your back. The old man takes your shirt off

and will loosh in your upper body. What? Sometimes we, sometimes we think this guy is a sexual predator. We've played shows in London. I like to ask my dad, I go, who'd you put on the list tonight? And he's like, oh, you know, my cousin Andrew.

And I'm like, the Baba Barbara on the list. Baba Barbara. Yeah, some of the guys from Baba Barbara. Some of the guys. some of the guys from Baba Yeah, I didn't get any of this explaining Hair your hair. Yeah, why not just trim them? Because it's stylish. You're right. Phineas, you're so right. And it smells awful.

Jason does it. No way. Oh, because of burning hair. It's burning hair. But then he just, oh, that's the first one. Yeah, March. That's the guy. Please show me more.

I'm in. So this is the old man. Oh, hand trimmers. You got him to do the sound. Yeah, he took a shirt off. Oh, he's topless. Because the sound is important. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah Least patriotic Turkish man, he's got the fucking Turkish clock back there.

Oh my God. What is happening? Oh my God. Yeah. There's something very... What is he doing? Erotic. He's washing his hair, bro.

I love it. Inter of a Turkish barman. You know what else this has to me is that I'm a... I'm a... I'm like I'm a Look at it. Look, there's also a look that he gives to the camera Where he's like, yeah, you know, they're always improving a little yeah always like I'm gonna slap him now Wait you were saying Phineas you were saying something about

What is he even I have acne so I go get like facial sharing me too and I think that like My dad and most men of that age is like never considered ever getting a facial ever in their life. And so the idea that somebody is massaging their tissue and like that they're like, that's unbelievable. I'm like, you can just get a facial. Like, you know what I mean? They're like, my haircut was amazing. I'm like, you like that somebody like rubbed your ears and your forehead. Yeah. Yeah. How often do you go? Like every two months. Oh, okay. Yeah. I use a weekly facial every, every week I go, where you're glowing. It looks well, we were on a set recently in a makeup artist. It's a weekly facial. Every week I go. Where you glowing? It looks great.

Well, we were on a set recently and a makeup artist was like, you get a facial every week? He's like, I get a peel every week. And she's like, he goes, no, no, no, every other week. I think that's maybe actually dangerous. Yes, the makeup artist said the same thing. She's like, you're getting fleeced, dude.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the deal. I looked it up. I Googled it. And what I found in my extensive research of the AI bot to, here's the deal. I looked it up. I googled it and when I found in my extensive research The AI bot to be back in the officials to get every week in the White House. Well, yeah Every other week is okay, and it's a light. It's a light peel. It's okay. It's not a story. It's It's not see when you think of appeal you think of like a like a peel where you're like shedding like a snake

Mine just like a nice little yeah, because you have no skin left My take a quick little exfoliant little extraction here a little extraction there a little microcurrent I have acne too. I'm going through my phase right now. It's rough springtime when the season changes you go through that too Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think you should go less. Okay. Yeah. Okay, but what do I do about the acne? Do I just live with it? Well, you go as frequently as you can go

and you still have acne. Okay. I don't think. I know. I think you can just go less. I know, so maybe, maybe, you know, I never thought of that. Maybe, maybe less peels?

I would go, I mean, I have a facialist. Do you think that the facial's causing more acne? Sometimes they do. I have a facialist who is Serbian who fucking rules and she one time said to me when I started going because again, to end with, have you guys ever had acne? Oh, dude, I used to have cystic acne.

Did you do acutane? I never did acutane. I did that. I never did it I have acne now sometimes but it's like I have this like one thing that won't go away I need to lance it most like so I Actually so bad through here. I used to wrestle in high school Yeah That my shit would rupture when I was wrestling and I would wear white shirts and I would go through three or four white shirts

Cuz I'd have a ring of blood. So I did this treatment called Thermage when I was in my teens, where they passed a bunch of electricity. Yeah, I did that too, it didn't work. That was like a godsend for me. It was painful. Yeah, totally.

Horrible. Yeah, I mean, when you go get a facial and your skin suddenly is way better, the impulse is to do what you're doing, which is like, I'm gonna go do that every week. And I had this facialist and she was like, you actually really want your skin to be resilient. And she was like, every product,

a little bit like we're talking about with the mouth tape, she was like, every fucking product is exfoliate, exfoliate, exfoliate. She was like, your skin should be the way your skin, you're not trying to just shred your skin and peel your skin off. You just want your skin to be healthy and you want your pores to be clear. You're right, but I can't stop.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm an addict. Every time I see something, I'm like, I need to go. I'm telling you, I'm looking at you and I'm seeing the thought you're about to say. I can see the thought through the skin. What am I supposed to do? Oh, you can see it. I can see the brain waves beneath the forehead. Yeah, you can see it. I can see the brain waves beneath the forehead.

Yeah, I can't stop. You know what? I'm going to take your advice, and then I'm going to go. Just go a little less. Yeah, just a little less. Once every three weeks? Start with that, then go to six. OK.

OK. Dial it back a little. Wait, who do you? Let's go. Well, who's? But going back to the Turkish Barb is one thing I will tell you is that this is deep Turkish lore. But. Let's go. Who's going back to going back to the Turkish barbers? One thing I will tell you is that this is deep Turkish lore, but he's making

more Turkish. Yeah, this is the Turkish over like Turkish barbers that you wouldn't know. Is there from Turkey? There is a thing that there's a joke in Turkey about how like barbers will I feel embarrassed. I feel embarrassed to even mention this. There's a joke in Turkey about how like barbers will jerk. I feel embarrassed. I feel embarrassed to even mention this. All the Turks are going to yell at me for leaking the state secrets.

That's crazy. That's crazy that you're leaking deep state. No, they're going to fucking they're going to get back as the Lyra is going to tank even further. But there's a concept called Diamach where the barber will put his penis on you while he's like cutting your hair. What? Yes.

So I was right. I was right the whole time. Will's not off. I don't think the barber's in England or Germany do that. Where does he put his penis? Just like while he's cutting. Like a little parrot action? Just like.

Did he take the penis out or is he touching? No. Is he putting his. Yeah, he's just grinding on you while he's cutting your diamond. What? Is it like an is it just something that just happens or is it like I guess Turkish barbers have done it in the past Need to know is this like part of the service up because when I go to get haircuts, I buy, you know, a certain service. It's just like, okay.

Are you excited? No, I don't. He's gonna demand a refund. I paid $50 for my haircut. I didn't get any Dianmoc. Well, I'm just, well, I don't know. It would be interesting to have a cock on your face while you're getting your fucking.

He's like, am I not hot enough? I'm like, what's going on? You put it on your face? No, no, no. On your lower back. Yeah, lower back, shoulder. That's one way to get a peel. Am I not hot enough It's like it's like an awkward situation because you how it sounds like the Denmark the death yeah so why don't you get a Turkish haircut um I just don't you get a Turkish haircut? I just don't really know if there are any Turkish barbers around here.

I eat a lot of Turkish food. If you find a Turkish barber, you gotta let me know, because my dad will wanna go. After this, some Turkish barbers in LA will probably hit me up in my Instagram and be like, bro, come on. What do you mean, help me, help me with this.

That's what you said to your readers on Twitter. Yeah, the full service though, it is a full service thing. You do, you know, Turkish barbers do take a lot of pride in their work. Yeah, it looks sick. It's like a Cirque de Soleil haircut. I do still want to go back to Ashton Hall. Oh wow, you're still. There's so much more Ashton. Hassan.

I guess we can move on. Yeah, let's move. We can do it in the Patreon. Okay, let's talk. Okay, I got a question for you. And you let me know if you don't wanna talk about this, but I believe it was on your Instagram story. You recently unfollowed a bunch of people. But it can't be, I did research.

Not only did I. I knew this, I'm a fan. I had like the two worst, the two like. Is this, you don't wanna talk about it? No, I'm happy to talk about it. I just sometimes like do a thing and I'm like, why did I do that? Okay. Yeah. I posted unfollowing spree. And what I knew when I posted that was that everyone insecure would check to see, you know what I mean? Normally when you unfollow somebody, you hope.

Did I make the cut? Yours followed still. You did it so gleefully to unfollow. I was so, so gleeful. Who'd you unfollow? Mostly I unfollowed like Joe Biden's Instagram account, like Instagram accounts that I'd been- Was he mad?

Did he check? He didn't know, the auto pen letter of, he was pissed off. Yeah, mostly it was like, cool houses in Bali, like random accounts that were like followed from years ago that I was like, whoa, sick architecture. But I did unfollow a couple friends. Oh, wow. Who just, I don't like the content.

Oh, really? That's cold. You're cold, that's cold as hell. I just don't like these. Did they text you? Yes. Oh, wow. There was no reason for me cold as hell. I was like, I just don't like these. Did they text you? Yes. Oh wow.

There was no reason for me to do this. It was just hateful, just cruel and hateful. Did they, were they like, are we still friends? Yes. Okay. And I was like, yeah, yeah, we're good. We're good. Did they, I'd be so insecure if they didn't follow me.

They were super insecure, I felt bad. Okay. Felt bad. So like what sort of content were they making that you didn't like? One of them is just like always philosophizing, always like musing. Now you are specifically calling out

your girlfriend that you unfollow. And he's a great guy, I really like him, but I think sometimes- But not his philosophy. Not his Instagrams. And I think that like sometimes people, I bet you- But not his philosophy. Not his Instagrams. And I think that sometimes people, I bet you have myriad people where you're like, I love playing basketball with this guy,

and then you see their Instagram stories and you're like, this is crazy. And anyway, so I just unfollowed him. And I'm sort of happy to be confrontational, so none of it fazed me. And I was like, yeah, we're good, man. And then a friend, my very close friend hited me. And I was like, yeah, we're good, man. And then a friend, my very close friend hit me the next day and was like,

what did you, what good did you think would come of this? And I was like, to me it was a comment on like, how much stock everybody's put in this. Like I have friends too, like, I have friends who are like, whatever, in the public eye and I follow them on Instagram and like, they don't follow me back or whatever because maybe they follow zero accounts

or maybe they just are using, and I don't care. It's not a big deal to me. Anyway, but he was like, but people really, it matters to them, whatever. And I was like, do you think, and so the next day I posted, close friends going crazy right now. Just on my I posted, close friends going crazy right now. Just on my main stories.

Close friends going crazy right now. Do you even have a close friend? And my friend wrote, Why am I not on your list? He goes, dude, you, I don't see anything on your close friends. And I was like, so I just posted nothing.

Yeah. And I got, and it's like, You're just gaslighting my shit. I'm just gaslighting my ass. That's awesome. And so many of my friends were like, on my close friends texted, like responded to it and they were like, hello.

Like they were all like, let me in. Which is like, you know. You know, it's nice that you- But why am I doing this? It's nice that your close friends noticed though. They care. See, I think we're just in a period of time where everybody is, what's that comedian, Chris Fleming, I think,

and he has like a bit of like, he's like, do you think you could have survived middle school with close friends Instagram? And it's like, we have made the friendship of more and more fragile dynamic. The find my thing is, you know when you like go on your find my and you see like three of your friends at a place and you know nothing about it,

and you're like, fair enough. We've made it, we've let ourselves know about our own exclusion to such a humongous degree. It has become in our culture, when you get unfollowed, it's almost like an act of war. That's right. It's almost like a fuck. It's like pissing on someone's ass.

Every step they're like, all right, fine. What did I do? You can mute them, right? There's so many little private things that aren't diplomatic gestures. I've gotten better over time, but the person that you're describing that would be impacted by this would be me.

If we were. But also, I like to masquerade as a person who wouldn't care, but I did it knowing that somebody would care, and that takes the empathy to know that I, you know what I mean? I don't know why I did this. I don't think about this stuff at all.

I don't, here's the short answer, is I really don't, I don't, I couldn't ever tell you who is following me or unfollowing me. I'm not, you ever see somebody look at the likes or the views of their story? I've never done it ever. Cutie Cinderella, ironically enough,

is the person that told me that you were following me. Okay, there you go. It was like you should hit him up to be on the podcast. And you did this when Cutie was in Utah? Well, I. Sad, bro. That is nasty work. I didn't even, but see, that's the thing.

I'll come back when Cutie, Cutie, I'll come back. To be fair, she's been gone for 11 weeks. Yeah. She's been gone for 11 weeks. Yeah. And also, I didn't even do that deliberately. Like that seems like something that I would have done in a sinister fashion, but it was like,

I didn't even think about that. He's actually helped me overcome a lot of these random, like things that don't really matter, like the unfollow, because he's so nonchalant about everything. I really don't I really I'm pretty detached Do you do you think it's one of those things where it's like your logical mind is fighting out against something that seems so ridiculous? But is so important like a firm handshake It's ridiculous But people put a lot of stock in that and like especially working in music

Who you know and who you're associated with is so directly related to like your success. Like I know so many aspiring musicians that are just trying to put themselves in the orbit of successful people and so that on follow could mean the world to someone who's you know maybe getting laid just on the fact that you follow them. Oh mean? Yeah. I don't think I have getting laid from a fall of cache. Yes, you do. For sure. Anyway, the point I'm making is I empathize. I empathize.

It's a weird time, man. Yeah. The weird time. But it kind of disgusts you at the same point. It's super disgust. I think that's I think the reason I did it was being grossed out by the yeah, I think that like, when I when I read a book about a very different period of time, and there's a totally different social

dynamic at play, somebody's like, I fucking hated this. See when I when I hear about see like, it feels like the our version of a scene. Yeah. And so I'm like, I hate this. I was telling them I think think the next wave of kids, counterculture, punk, whatever, is gonna be like Luddites. Yeah, phoneless, yeah, yeah, I completely agree with you. People who reject technology, and I think as we- I have a cousin who has no,

he's like no internet presence at all. Yeah, I mean- No traceable anything. It's crazy, and he's had to be, you know, we have to verify ourselves so many times for anything. It's crazy. Like he's and he's had to be there, you know, we have to verify ourselves so many times for anything. Yeah, and he's gone all these circuitous routes to be sort of unverified by everybody. And it's like, it's impressive. I hope that Instagram is like our generation's mullet, where we look back and we're like, what a

strange time, I can't believe we we suffered that kind of I think, I think, unfortunately, the future is going in the opposite direction. Totally agree. It's going to be way more everything. I look at China and what they do over there in terms of always being on and everything being connected to your social media account basically.

Weibo is life over there. It's your credit card. It's everything. It's what you are and it certainly interferes with your affairs in the physical space. And I think that's probably where we are, that's the direction that we're moving. Yeah and if anything I would fantasize about what you're talking about but I do think that we've only just crossed over the bridge into people realizing that

what they say online does impact their kind of ephemeral physical life. I mean, like the fucking Carla Sofia Gascon, right? Who's like, what? I posted some opinions. They're like, you're not going to win that Oscar. By the way, imagine being the journalist six years deep in a Twitter, all in Spanish and being like, translate. Imagine being like, George Floyd, translate. Just running down the hall.

They're just like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. To be fair, she's Spanish, right? Yeah, right. From Spain, like an old, old queer person from Spain, like it's gonna be, and you know, white, it's gonna be a target rich environment for the most part. I feel like European. Target rich environment is great.

European, Europeans are operating on a very different spectrum when it comes to like social courtesy or identity politics in general, at least in my experience, like old, old trans people in the UK, which is one of the most transphobic places in the Western world. They still will advocate to call themselves transsexuals where they're like, no, we it's fine or transvestites even not transsexuals transvestites. Like that's just the, there the, they just got different,

different attitudes out there. Is Eddie Izzard, I grew up watching a lot of Eddie Izzard standup specials. Does that person still identify as transvestite or are they transgendered now? I don't know. Cause I learned the word transvestite from watching Eddie Izzard's specials.

He is so old. He was so sick. So funny. So funny. Yeah. I don't, I don't, did he identify as trans? I don't know. Transvestite. That's really fast.

He identified it as a biological male. It's the same, yeah. It's the same thing. That's a driven person. You know that they've ended up like running like hundreds of marathon. Really? They did a period of time in the last couple of years where they ran like a marathon a day for a week,

like insane shit. Okay, that's crazy. That's a really driven person. Yeah. Yeah. That scares me. It's impressive. That freaks me out a little bit. I don't understand long distance runners.

It's a different breed. Yeah. Very different, yeah. So in getting to know you a little bit, one thing I found so interesting is when you write your music, or when you produce your music rather, you will find sounds from just things that you hear in your environment.

Like I think I heard of a, like the sound of like a street crossing, street crossing thing. Could you talk a little bit about that? Sure, I mean, you pretty much nailed it. I feel like, you know, I've kind of always been distracted by cool sounds going on, you know. I was literally, I have like a video yesterday of like being on a hike in Griffith Park and like good woodpecker sound. I mean like that sounds fucking awesome.

And there's like a lot of percussion in nature, you know, just happening. A lot of like LA, there's always like construction happening on a good rhythm. So yeah, I've just always kind of recorded little videos and audio clips of it. And if I throw it into a piece of music, I think, you know, one of the things that's happened over the last 15 years is everybody has the same access to the same everything. Do you know the thing Splice? Splice is like a sample library thing where it's like TikTok for samples that you can download. There's like most popular kicks, most popular snares. And they're amazing. They sound great, most popular loops. But at the end of the day, you do have like... They've been burnt out. Yeah, you have this thing that everybody has that,

you know, I'm not naive enough to think like I'm using this the best way. Somebody else is very musical and using it in a great way. So like, yeah, anything that I have like, well, I'm the only guy that recorded that thing at that point in time, whatever, you know, that sound is I'm the only one that has it. Let me go use it. So that's what you record on just my phone. Nice. Yeah. My phone mic is great. Do you heard of a movie called blowout? No, it's blowout. You would love this. It's an old movie with John Travolta. Cool. Where he goes around recording sound and he accidentally records a murder cool great Fantastic plot fantastic film. That's all of it. Do you is there like a sound that you hear and you're like, ah

There's are sounds that are better than others were like, ah, I got to get into the studio right now Put this into something or is it just like when you're creating something you remember a sound that you heard and you're like, oh that Would yeah, you want to hear a good one. Yeah, I was in All right, put a header on this Phineas is sound that you heard and you're like, oh, that would go. Yeah, you want to hear a good one? Yeah, I was in. All right. Put a header on this. Phineas is sounds. I was in Chicago a couple of weeks ago. And I'll show you a little video clip of it because it's looking cargo and like Michigan is doing that thing right now where it was like

all of the everywhere near the shore was frozen. And now it's all like it's all ice cube on like it's all just like really small piece of ice and so this is how So this is how? Where's the best camera to point this at here? You just send it if you want Yeah, I'll send it anyway. That's how it looks and then it sounds fucking crazy Let's see. Wow. So, it's a real rain stick. Wow. Anyway, so that could be in a,

that'll be somewhere in the background or something. That's kind of ambient, but that'll be a nice texture under a vent or something. You know, I've been thinking about going to China. Really? Yeah, but I'd like to get on Facebook while I'm there This lead into this ad is amazing keep going, but I like to get on Facebook But you know they banned Facebook in China. They'll take your social

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you've produced that you've left into like an iconic song that you've made? I can't think of a specific, like this was an accident, but I will say that oftentimes, especially like when you're playing an instrument like guitar, piano, or you're singing, there's a kind of a uncomfy, you know, I'm a fine pianist, I'm not perfect ever. And so I'm playing along and maybe I do a thing where I'm like, ah, fuck, I didn't really mean to, that's not how I meant to play that. And then you do another take, whatever.

And then you kind of, in your mind, you're like, I'll fix that later, I'll fix that later. And by the time it's three hours later, you're like, I love that thing. It's built into the song. Yeah, and I think that that has a lot to do with like, we overthink everything and sometimes the thing that was just like the way

that you played it right then is the coolest, you know, is the coolest way. So I'm very like, I'll do a couple of takes and be like, fuck, I really kind of bombed that. And then go back and revisit it later and be like, actually, I can replay a couple of things, but I like that in general. Other nerd examples of that, Billy Corrigan's

whistling guitar and smashing bumpkins. He had's cheap guitar that whistled the whole time Yeah, and in the air tonight, they played the drums back through the studio monitor and it sounded better through that That's how they get that crazy compression or wasn't I mean this is a little bit different but radio head Creep, didn't they not like it? So they were trying to I don't know if that's a myth or not But there were you know the the two-two the best sound on yeah, but they but they didn't like the song So they were trying to bomb it, but then it came like an iconic To good we fucking hate I mean, I don't know. I heard that they didn't like that song and so they were just like fucking around and okay

My friend David and I David is a fellow fan of Hasan Universe. Sweet guy, close friend of mine. We were talking about, he's another music producer and we have a thing about self-own music, like music about how much of a loser you are. Sure. And we generally try to stop people from writing self-own music.

Okay, why? Because- I love some self-own music. Okay, why? Because. I love some cell phones. Well, okay, I'm glad that I'm bringing this up because generally when we're in the room and somebody's writing it, the cell phone that I'm talking about is usually career-based.

Oh, okay. And that's not like a career-based cell phone of like, I can't, you know, my album's gonna flop kind of a cell phone. I'm like, ah, this is. Okay. You're gonna, people believe what you tell them. Like people are gonna think you're a loser, you know?

I mean, some notable cell phones, Eminem. Well, okay, but. Loser Beck? Loser by Beck is fucking awesome, but it has nothing to do with his career. He's just like, I'm a loser. And he goes, I'm a loser, why don't you kill me? Which is cool and kind of confrontation.

That's the line. But Creep is the best cell phone song ever. Okay, I'm trying to think. I think you might be onto something. I think that's the best one. But anytime there's a song that's like, kind of about the process or something, it's a cell phone, exhausting. I also really like Save It For Later by The English Beat.

I can't sing that to you right now. That was re-recorded by Peter Townsend. But is that his cell phone? He talks about how he's crying and how he's alienated. You're thinking of cell phone as being vulnerable. Listen dude, I was watching that guy's morning routine and now I'll... Pete Townsend from The Who? Yeah, he re-recorded it.

It's one of my favorites. You're on the Sigma Grisette mindset right now. I'm trying to think? Yeah, he recorded. That's one of my favorite. You're you're on the sigma. I said, I'm trying to think of like other really yeah, my heart. I'm trying to think of other really nasty self owns then. You're right. It might be the pinnacle of that. Yeah, pretty great. Well, before we end this first hour,

I want to talk about a man who doesn't get enough credit, but he his story kind of went Quiet for a long time and now they're making a retelling of his story with Walton Goggins. Oh And the name man's name is foolish tremendous. He's incredible. Nobody looks like that man. Yeah, no so good He's got the best veneers in the world Paul Michael Larson Who was a contestant is amazing best my god. He was in Django

He's in a lot He's walking Goggins. Yes. He is a very beloved actor. Yeah. Oh, sorry I just I really felt like I yeah really onto something there. Anyway, the system is crushing. Okay. We all are just pawns to the system. We all create our morning workout routines, but rarely a man beats the system. And in 1984, a man named Paul Michael Larson beat the system. Have any of you heard of a game show called Push Your Luck?

No. Push Your Luck was a game show that existed in the 80s and then came back. Very successful where there was a whammy. Press your luck. Press your luck. Not push your luck. Sorry. There's a whammy, right?

And if you hit the whammy, that's where no whammies, no whammies or whammy. Oh, that's what that's from? Yes. Okay. The whammy would take your money. But in the 80s, this game show gave out more money Paul Michael Larson That's him what this game show gave out more money than any other game show Okay, so let's go ahead and watch some of the open like Orson

Yeah, just play here just play No whammies. No whammies. Come on, big bucks. I need lots of money. Come on. It's a lot of money. So especially I'll give you the premise of the game. You answer some kind of trivia and you get a number of spins and then you use those spins on the board to get money and more spins or you get whammies. Those yellow guys, whammy, they take all of your money. So stressful. Now let's go to the middle of this video, please. Go back a little bit, go back a little bit. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Back a little bit. Go back. No, three hundred and thirty six thousand.

There you go. So play from here. Let's watch a little bit Yeah, yeah He's cleaning do other guys get this level of the prisoners left us four thousand yeah at this point Michael has won more money than also yes he hit the button and went, yeah, he just screamed. I feel like you can't entertain the delay on that one. That's like hard to figure out. I'll give you guys the odds.

You have a one in five chance of hitting a whammy. I high 25 or 20% chance 20% chance. Michael has won more money at this point than any person ever on pressure lock ever and you have the opportunity to bail probably bail every time so now skip forward a little bit and let's see how Michael is doing in about 10 minutes no that's too far yeah get like get like here yeah let's watch so they're begging him they're like him. They're like, Michael, you got to stop.

44,601. Will he keep it? 44,000. Yeah. Oh my God. One in five chance. He's 20 spins in now. Jesus Christ. Skip forward another 10 minutes. So nobody else gets a turn? No one. Cause he's just dominating the game. So nobody else gets a turn no one because he's just dominating 74 The guy on the left is thinking I could get a turn I could do this That's what I feel the water the crazy thing the guy on the left is last week's champion He won two weeks in a row Michael came in and started clearing him the fuck out now I want you to watch one more spin play and I want you to watch no just play from here watch Michael's eyes

31 the odds now are astronomical at the craft The odds now are astronomical. Put him at the craps table. Yeah. Press again. Oh, 74,850. Because he has a one in five chance of losing. Every time. But he's in his flow state.

Stop! Fourth! Ha ha ha! I think he's hearing the melody. Now pause. I want you to go back. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. What did you just say?

I think he's hearing the melody. That's interesting that you said that. Go back to Michael's eyes for a second. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do years before he went on my god set up six television sets in his living room without any kind of express purpose. He watched those sets meticulously day and night looking for any patterns in any show or anything on the team. Oh, not just this one. Not just looking for any pattern. His wife was bewildered by his like militant focus. After two years, he said, I found it. I gotta go on. Press your luck. I found the pattern. Michael then watched press your luck for months. He recorded every viewing and he played them back. And he noticed that press your luck had five unique patterns in which the lights blipped around the screen. He noticed that if he could recognize those patterns based

on if they landed in the top left corner and went to the next tile, he could identify which of the five patterns there were and then accurately predict when to hit the buzzer in order to beat the system. It was at this point in the show that the producers noticed that Michael had beaten. I go to the end. Yes. Oh wait, he's got a hundred thousand dollars. The guy on the left has zero. No. Michael wins a hundred thousand dollars. This is the most that had ever been won on a game show ever at this point in history. He cleans them out and he basically wins this show. The network figures out what he does and they bring in attorneys and

they try and find any way to take Michael's money. But technically, Michael didn't cheat. He just watched it. He broke the game. So Michael gets to leave with his $100,000. Now the sad part of the story is Michael became obsessed with get rich quick stick schemes after this. He became obsessed. He was obsessed. He bought six televisions and had them in his living room. And essentially blew through all of his money. On different

things. Yes. And this is the crazy thing that airing of press your luck was only shown Because ABC was so ashamed that someone got the best of him that they basically like threw the tape by a shame They're probably also convinced that if you watch it you can you can identify what he's doing. You're like, oh, I was you know Here you are you figured it out. Yeah, ABC wanted them to buy six television sets the old fashioned way. It's like that who wants to be a millionaire guy, right? Who uses his final thing to just call his dad.

Yeah. Oh, the best. I'm about to be a millionaire. I don't have a question. I don't know the answer. I just wanted to tell you I'm about to win a million dollars. That's awesome. That's fucking cool. Yeah. It's pretty great. Yeah, all right.

I'm gonna close out mine with a question another friend of the show Oh, here's the here's the question. It's fucking heady. I said I'm doing Hassan's Oh, you want to you got anything for me to ask him? You want to hear it? Yeah, I want to know how he imagines us navigating the spectacle of Politicization in an attention economy. We're calling attention to an issue becomes an issue In and of itself can't wait to hear the convo. Jesus Christ. You want me to repeat it? No I got it. No it's actually it's a great point. She's smart as fuck. Where whether or not you like Palestine is a great example of those like what you have said about the genocide in Gaza matters almost as much as like the actual issue

in and of itself because in the Western world, especially in the attention economy, we have this selfish nature to the way that we operate online. And I think what's most impactful, what's most significant, and this is something I tell other content creators all the time that wanna do good, but are worried about the, uh, the

backlash they might receive or that if you, you know, do you donate publicly? If you donate publicly, then Jesus Christ. Okay. If you donate publicly, then, uh, are you doing it so that people, you know, so that people say you're a nice person. And I always- Is it performative? Yeah, is it performative?

And what I always tell them is like, it really doesn't matter. People that don't like you are gonna find any reason to like sabotage or derive some sort of like cynical purpose out of it. So just do the right thing regardless, no matter what people say. And that's how I feel about all awareness issues as well, all awareness campaigns as

well. If this is something that you truly care about, if something that you've read about or you see an injustice and you want to call it out, I don't think it matters what people say about it. As long as you stay the course, as long as you know that you are doing your very best in a meaningful way, you should just keep doing it regardless of what people say. And I try not to pay attention to the noise,

usually on issues like this, because things do have a tendency to devolve in the drama and drama is what like drives a lot of clicks and a lot of attentions in and of itself how you said something what your true intentions were and I think that comes out of a place of selfishness we don't we can't empathize with people in in horrifying situations so what we have what do you mean by that? Sorry to I think a lot of people like I'll give you this example. I'm going to go back to Gaza as well. Gaza versus the West Bank.

Right. Right. Americans have no understanding of like entire city blocks being reduced to rubble, because they've never felt they've never experienced it in their own physical life. they've only seen like 9-eleven maybe and that's not even an equivalent to what has history books yeah war movies yeah they've only seen it in movies and and if they've seen it on television it's been presented to them as like people who kind of do that over there and maybe they deserve it yeah right like look at at Syria, look at Iraq, look at Afghanistan. The messaging of that, of how the context within were shown.

Exactly, so the way that they have no way of conceptualizing the untold amount of pain and cruelty that these people are subjected to. Whereas in the West Bank, that violence is a lot more personalized because they're doing pogroms, right? You have settlers that go in, they spray paint a house, and then they, that means you have to clear out the house, they're going to come in, they're going to throw Molotov cocktails, they're going to drive you out of there, and then the IDF is going to come in and they're going to

shoot the Palestinians that even try to like defend their homes. That is a more personalized form of violence. So I think Americans like recognize that as like rabid right-wing reactionary doing a school shooting because they are Aware of that they know they know what a school shooting looks like So if something looks similar to a thing that they can associate with They can internalize that better. They can empathize with the with the victims in that situation Do you feel that people in America can even? victims in that situation a little bit better. Do you feel that people in America can even fully contextualize and empathize

with school shooting victims? Because I don't perceive that they can because the reaction is so numb and void of compassion. I feel like your point is true for sure about our kind of contextualization of war-torn, you know destruction of civilization, but I look at the ability to empathize with the thing that we should know Immediately we do you see the you know? CNN footage of the front of the school with the cops outside refusing to go in Yeah

we know exactly how that looks and feels and sound like we've seen it and smelled it and I don't perceive that most people can put themselves in it the fucked up thing about that is now there's like a measurable percentage of Americans And it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger yeah, yeah, so there is a Hypernormalization that occurs in this process shuts out to Adam Curtis. But, and that is very damaging to our collective psyche. I think we are becoming more ruthless day in and day out. It is certainly the boomerang effect of all of the colonial violence that we've subjected the global South to

that comes back and rears his ugly head on domestic soil in terms of like domestic instability. comes back and rears his ugly head on domestic soil in terms of like domestic instability. And you're right, people do slowly but surely refuse to react to these incredible instances of violence like school shootings in the way that they used to. Like you look at Columbine. I remember hearing about Columbine from my mom. I think Columbine was before, I was born in 97.

Columbine was in... Yeah, it was definitely before you were born. I remember hearing about it as a kid from my mom and being so disturbed by the story of it. I don't know what those two guys looked like. Like I don't have any visual, I just heard about it and was so disturbed. I remember Sandy Hook, I remember Parkland,

I remember Pulse, I remember Parkland, I remember Pulse, I remember, sorry? Yeah, I remember Route 96 or the Vegas, I forget the exact name of the Vegas shooting. Remember all those? Yeah, Stephen Paddock. After all of those, I've lost all, there's so many of you, you know what I mean? Yeah. I don't remember where I was when Yuval Day happened,

I don't remember what day that was. Yeah, it becomes- They don't even where I was when Yuvalde happened. I don't remember what day that was. Yeah, it becomes, it all- They don't even make national news anymore most of the time. It all gets smushed together. Yeah. And yeah, that does have a really scary way of normalizing this kind of violence as well, where we just become more cruel to even one another.

And you're absolutely right. I think that it does play a role in making people less empathetic to even their neighbors that might experience something like this. Having said that, it is still a concept that people can kind of wrap their heads around. That's all I was saying.

And the reason why I mentioned that is because, because this is so alien to us, the idea that like a significantly more powerful military force that is a belligerent occupier that is like bombing you into rubble, like destroying every school, mosque, you know, places of worship. Because that concept is so alien to us, we can just like kind of hand wave it away. way. And, and that is the reason why I think a lot of people don't think about the impact the human, the impact that it has on humanity and therefore focus on like the attention economy side of it all. So I think what's important is to remember why you are trying to bring awareness to an issue and continue protesting, continue advocating and try to offer as much. Don't sweat the stuff that doesn't fucking matter.

Yeah. Because that's, I mean, look, I get targeted pretty viciously for my opinion on this issue and every other issue really. And the reason why I don't let it get to me is because I'm thinking about on the other side, the people that I do talk to that live in Gaza, right? The journalists that I talk to in Gaza, the influencers that live in Gaza that are going through tremendous hardship, like that are experiencing a genocide, all the people that have interviewed. And I do it for them. I think about them and I, you know, it makes me very angry to even entertain the notion that like, this is hurting someone in the Western world's feelings, right? Like someone in America is getting their feelings hurt because of what I'm saying. That is like objectively true facts about Israel's conduct in this, in this genocide.

Um, I think it's disgusting to bring it back to like how you personally feel in this process. Um, but, uh, that is what helps me. me recenter my focus on the issues that matter and speaking out about it. Thanks for the answer. I really appreciate it. Hopefully that was good. We normally don't do any politics on the podcast. I, you know, I asked. Yeah. All right. But this was a varied episode. We went from Turkish Turkish but guys putting their wieners School shootings I also have to pee. Oh Phineas. Are you sure you have an incredible vibe? You are such a fun person. Well. They said I had an incredible vibe. Yeah, I mean listen you really want me over with this Phineas thank you so much. Hey, do you have anything that you want to plug? I mean, I'm all good

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