Fear& - We Filmed This Last Wednesday.. ft. Wakewilder | Fear&
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Do you know why Roman statues are notorious for having small penises?
Yes, because large penises are seen as barbaric.
No, because most people, that's what a penis looks like.
Hold on.
When it's flaccid.
You know what?
I'm going to go ahead.
I'm sick and tired of this idea that people are hanging big.
Ladies and gentlemen, happy Monday.
Your week is just getting started.
And we're in the middle of last week right now on the Fierand podcast where we have a man-only episode.
Can I say something to you?
What?
I've never seen anyone tie a bandana more poorly.
Yeah.
I was looking at that.
Move your mic.
Move your mic.
I was looking at that.
Why is it upside down?
What the hell?
Is it like a bit?
Pull up the bandana real quick.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Just pull up like the way it's supposed...
What is wrong with you?
God damn it, I'm just trying to celebrate Halloween
and all you Scrooches
didn't show up in any fucking costumes.
I didn't know I was supposed to.
It's fucking Halloween.
No, it's not.
Well, by the time this episode comes out on Monday,
we won't have any time left.
It'll be November by the next time the episode comes in.
Oh, shit.
true. That is true. The next episode.
That's not even true. It'll be the 28th
next episode. Yes, and in the week
of the episode after that would be...
So there's another episode in between now and...
No, no, no, no. This is... No, the 28th will be this episode. Like, right now,
if you're watching, it's October 28, 2025.
And then Halloween's the 31st. No, it's the 22nd.
No, today is the 22nd.
But the episode will drop on the 28th. Austin is right. I can't believe I'm saying this.
This is the only...
It's math. Wednesday.
It's a matter of a
That's what I'm saying I showed up
In costume
I'm locked in
I think I'm a cowboy if anybody's wondering
You're a cowboy
I was wondering
I look fucking disheveled because I took my bandana
Yeah no the bandana really tied
The whole thing together
I think I put that back on
Hold on just
Have you never worn a bandana
You don't have what are you doing
Have you never worn a bandana
What am I a fucking bake robber? No I've never worn a bandana
I mean it's fine but you can like
You fold the top a little bit, and then the rest is supposed to...
By the way, ladies and gentlemen, we have a guest this week.
We have Blake Wilder.
That's right.
What is up, guys?
How are you doing?
Cutie Cinderella has no Halloween spirit.
No, she died in a self-munching accident.
Yeah, she broke her neck trying to eat her own...
Self-munch is so much more violent than self-sum.
She broke her neck trying to eat her own pussy.
It was horrific.
Yeah, you can say that.
that because you're gay. We would never.
No. Wait, should we bleep that out? No.
No, Austin. I just want to make sure.
Austin's also drinking chickfil-A, but he's a gay man, so he's not.
It's Halloween. I'm in costume as a homophobe.
Oh. I like that. See? I like that. You will not be spared. You are going to prison as well
under this new administration. Oh, under the what administration?
Stephen Miller. Oh, yeah, Zoharmam Dani. Zoharam Dani's New York reign.
Yeah. Well, anyway, yeah. Well, you know what? I'm just trying to enjoy Halloween.
You know,
getting your spirit on Halloween.
Halloween,
because right after that,
guess what it is,
Christmas.
Right after Thanksgiving is right there.
Right after how everybody knows
that the Christmas season starts November 1st.
No.
No,
it's explicitly after Thanksgiving that Christmas season starts.
Well, no.
We are listening to Christmas music on Thanksgiving.
That is even debatable.
Mariah Carey.
We're so, just starving for joy.
You know what?
Yeah, Mariah Carey.
We can start now.
Mariah Carey.
Mariah Carey is the queen of Christmas, and she said, she's taken over for Jesus, right?
She is more similar qualities.
Are you saying that Jesus was the queen of Christmas?
Yes.
He was the king of Christmas, and now Mariah Carey, people, when you think of Christmas, you think of
Mary Carrey more than you think of Jesus.
Unfortunately.
I think.
I'm going to go out there and say that.
Do you think of Mariah Carey when you think of Christmas as opposed to Jesus?
I don't think of either.
I'll be honest.
Well,
I think of Santa Claus.
Oh,
fuck.
I forgot about him.
Okay.
Well,
let's a Muslim man correct you about your Christian holiday.
Other than Santa Claus.
Which I still believe in,
by the way.
Yeah, he's a Turkish man.
Is he really?
Don't do this.
Not everything is Turkish.
He's Turkish.
Santa Claus.
To be fair, we just don't know.
St.
Nicholas is from an area that is
inside of the Turkish borders.
Okay, are we like going
like Ottoman?
No, no, no, no.
This is pre-Othoman.
St. Nicholas.
I'll be honest with you.
The Americans fucking nailed that.
Nailed the Santa Claus.
Ours is the fucking coolest.
I mean, we really fucking nailed it.
You want a bunch of shit, bud.
Nicolas who like beats the shit.
They got like the.
racist ones.
Yeah, they have Sinter Claus
with his black face helpers.
Wait, there's a racist Santh?
Yes. I don't know all of the like
Yeah, that's how you were. I was in, I was in
I don't, I, I'm so
detached from Santa Lour.
Yeah, no, it, okay, so.
All I know is that the dude is in
the Arctic Circle, which
raises some questions. So I was
in, I was in Amsterdam one year
and I was like, oh my God, was my friend Kirk
and I said, Kirk, look, it's, oh my God, how cute
is that, Santa Claus? And then
outcome is blackface helpers.
I said, what the fuck is going on?
Turns out, uh, oh,
it's Cinderclus.
He has Cinder Claus and is evidently
there is a race. It has a racist
past there. Yes, yes. Look it up.
Pull it up. It's a blackface Santa, Amsterdam
and you'll see. It's not
like his search bar
is cooked. Yeah, it's not even like
it's not even Santa. It's like something
else. Oh, no.
Oh, that is crazy. Maybe we should show them.
Wow.
Oh, my holiday spirit is diminishing.
Bro, they don't go have, no have measures for how.
I'll be honest.
Except for that one guy in the bottom where he was like,
the thing is that they look so happy to be in black.
It looks like some kind of clan meeting more than it looks like.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
They all look like gestures.
Yeah, they're all working for the Trump administration now.
Isn't that wild?
So anyway, awesome, let's not jump past Halloween, though.
What Halloween plans?
do you have? Oh, God.
Oh, God. How many
parties are you going to be attending? Well, every single one.
Yeah, I can get my hands on. I'm going to a gay
party in San Diego.
Yeah.
And then I'm going to be partying all through the weekend. I'm like,
how many fucking costumes do I need? You know what I mean?
You know what? I've reached the age. I'm just, I'm rinsing one.
I've also reached that age, but I can't.
Why? I don't know. Because I'm gay.
Okay, so this is a standard that has to be.
The other days, gay Halloween standards are much hot.
They will judge me.
They'll be like, he wore that costume last party.
We're really thinking about fucking you, but same costume?
Hold on.
No, actually, good question.
Would that take sex off the table for someone?
Would they be like this is inappropriate?
No shot.
Oh, no.
Okay, so this is just vanity.
Gay Halloween is about making anything slutty.
Like, for example, Christian one year decided that he would be a, a shot.
somebody would be Bo Peep and
him and a couple
of his twinks would be
slutty sheep. Slutty sheep. Yes. Well, Bo Peep
didn't show up. And none of the other sheep did.
So he just ate a moaning a little
from that. He was just a slutty sheep.
Indistinguishable. A wayward
slutty sheep. But he didn't really know
A stray sheep. But his costume
was just white Calvin Klein underwear.
And I was like, that's not a sheep, Kristen.
You're just a whore. Did he have ears?
No. You need the ears.
many kinds.
You know, I was like, that's not a costume, baby.
That's a way of life.
Yeah.
So anyway, but I'm obviously, for those of you wondering, I'm a cowboy.
Well, okay.
The other thing we have to talk about, the news.
Oh, big news, ladies and gentlemen.
Big, big news.
And I'm campaigning here.
I don't think anybody else is.
But I have been nominated.
No, I'll tell you about it in a second.
I have been nominated as gamer of the year.
on Grindr, okay?
Grindr's Gamer of the year.
Thank you so much.
They noticed that I was playing
Flight Simulator.
What you don't mean?
Yeah, what the fuck game have you played?
Flight Simulator?
I watched you play Murder Midnight Club and the whole time.
Midnight Murder Club.
Hold on for an ad.
Hold on.
It was a hashtag ad and you sang the show tune the whole time.
Let me tell you.
I would play games without being paid.
Okay?
Okay.
Name one game you've played in the last
100 streams
that you did not get sponsored for it
that wasn't Fly Simulator
Well, I played Call of Duty
Technically it wasn't sponsored to play it
I was sponsored to do alien
Alien
That's still sponsored often
That was paid
That's a paid product placement
You know what
I don't get paid to play flight simulator
That's why I said
You should play a game
Top to Bottom on stream starting tomorrow
Hold on
Can we
In interest of winning
gamer of the year. Let's get back to it.
Wait, what you suggested
that you're gamer of the year? Let's get back to this.
No, in order for you to be honest.
Who the fuck are you to determine
this is a fucking metric?
I will sraggett.
I will sick my queer audience
on the grinder
advocates. You've lost all respect for them.
You don't even show your armpits anymore.
Look at you, you fucking, look at you
straggin with your sleeves.
That's hurtful.
Give me to show you can naked.
Draw blood, can't you.
Let's go.
Look, words are violence.
I'll tell you this.
Gamer of the year.
Yeah.
I'm campaigning right now.
Sure.
Who are you going up against?
Yeah, I'm curious.
I didn't look.
Okay.
I just look at my category.
Okay, so you haven't even scoped your competition and you're preemptively spiking the ball in the end zone.
I'm not, no, I'm not saying I'm going to win.
I need your vote.
We need a campaign.
So this is how you vote.
Okay.
You have to download Grindr.
Okay.
And you have to have grinder.
I already have it.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're on it.
Done.
So I expect all of you.
So I expect all of you.
So I expect all of you to download Grindr, and when you open it, you got to use it a little bit,
and then eventually it'll give you the notification.
You have to have gay sex so that you can vote for me.
At the very least, over-the-pants action.
It's like the Turkish military.
You have to bottom.
It doesn't count.
So I had to use the app for a while to...
Oh, for the gamer of the year.
So I had to use it, and then eventually it gave it to me, and then it reroutes you.
to a Google Doc, and then
you vote on a Google Doc.
Just link the Google Doc.
I fucking lost the way.
I got so excited
to vote for myself that I lost the lake.
He got to make a grinder account?
No, I can't let him do that.
Make a grinder account, Christian.
I'm just kidding.
He's legacy.
Oh, he's legacy.
You think he has one?
Wait, I should have him log into it.
I want to see what those messages look like.
Just out of care.
Anyway, Gamer of the year, I've never won anything.
Well, actually, we won an award together.
Name your prize.
Yeah.
But that doesn't count.
That does count.
I've never won anything like this, a gamer award.
I've never won a game or award.
Ludwig won the fucking award last year, and he's not even gay.
Yeah, but at least he games.
Wait, he won Grinders, gamer?
Yes.
That's crazy.
How they nominated him?
I am also nominating myself for Gamer of the other.
No, you're not.
If Ludwig can win it.
Suck his cock right.
now.
Suck it.
Get on, Granger.
Make it a cow.
You heard a little bit.
Wake, you got a cock.
Yeah, I got one.
Whip it out so you can sign.
Come on.
This is for Gamer of the year, Will.
Jesus Christ.
So, Gamer of the year, right?
This is what happened last year.
He really did win.
He did.
He did.
So, Wake.
Was there no outrage?
No.
Okay, so the gays do not care about Gamer of the year.
No, yes, they do.
I'm sure there's some gays that'll vote for me.
I went and hit up every person that I knew
that had Grindr, and I told them to vote for me.
Right.
Well, congratulations.
Thank you so much.
Except for Christian, apparently.
Oh, no.
Well, I'll tell him he's got to download it.
Yeah.
But no funny business.
Because he didn't have it.
No funny business, all right?
Christian, no funny business.
All right, so I'm gamer of the year.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Well, we don't know that yet.
Thank you.
Well, no, I've been nominated.
I depend on the fearanders.
I want you to vote.
Can I ask how many nominees are there?
If Will is nominated, I don't know.
I will be conflict.
in supporting you.
Are you going to download Grindr for me?
If Will is nominated, I might download Grindr.
Okay. Wake, are you going to download Grindr for me?
Yeah, sure.
And download it, thank you.
I mean, is it significant that you win this award?
I think it would be good for me.
I think it would be good for me.
It's a big lift.
I really do.
More gaming sponsorships, for sure.
I did.
Did you actually?
Like, do what?
Like, you did it.
You did Trump hands.
Like, in preparation of a thought.
I don't know, but I didn't really believe this.
Like you're metamorphosizing
like Stephen Seagal
towards the tail end of his career
you're slowly becoming a new person
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah sometimes
I don't know
Some people say I sound like him
Yeah you have a Trumpism
For sure
Certainly
You know what I found on Zoc Doc today
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Combined
I went to therapy today
Really
Yes
I actually have used
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Because I also had to go to a doctor
to get an EK
because I was convinced I was dying.
Really?
Are you dying?
Well, I had incomplete red bundles.
We talked about it.
I had incomplete red bundles.
It probably just means that the EKG thing was a little loose on one side.
It should be fine.
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Way to go.
Anyways, continue.
Gamer of the year.
Gamer of the year.
Congratulations.
Well, don't congratulate me yet.
I have only been nominated.
I will be also.
It's prestigious.
Yes.
I'll be campaigning for a streamer award this year as well.
Yes.
Because I want, I don't know yet.
We'll wait to see for the categories, but I will be.
Do you have one that you're sniffing here, like, that you, like, believe you fit?
League of their own.
Okay.
Because that's the only one I can sort of.
Is it the league of people who don't stream?
No, league of...
Yeah, I think...
Yeah, he's on his own.
Hear me out.
I think I am sort of unique
in the way that everybody knows me,
but I don't stream.
Right.
I think that's unique.
That is a league of its own, yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Somehow, people are like, Austin, show!
I like the...
How the fuck are you still here?
That's what I get.
That's what I get.
Gamer of the year.
Yeah.
I think Gamer of the year
would help you win
League of your own.
I agree.
Yeah.
League of your own.
That's right.
You got to, you know,
it's like winning a Golden Globe
leading into the Oscars.
I think, yeah,
a league of their own.
That's how it works.
I'll be honest, I have...
The streamer awards
is deeply interconnected
with the grinder awards.
I will tell you this.
One thing I find unique
about myself,
League of their own,
for those of you
who are thinking about
who you're going to vote for.
I am a openly gay man
that has been called
less than his straight friends.
I've been on camera
in a room
with a straight friend
who was just
just called the Fsler.
Yeah.
So, you know, I certainly think that that is unique.
That puts you in league of your own, you think?
Yeah, I do.
I do think that that's crazy.
That qualifies me.
Anyway, Wake, you're a straight guy.
Yeah.
Famously.
Famously a straight guy.
But you get a lot of gay attention.
I mean, you know.
How does that feel?
Flattering.
What do you mean?
Well, actually, not really.
And I'll tell you what this is what any degree of male attention will teach you is how
cheap and undeserved
it is. Yes. It's just
a bunch of people lining up
at a buffet. I do need to...
Just food under a heat lamp. It's nothing.
I didn't need to cut in here. It still feels good.
It still feels good. It doesn't feel good to you?
It's not the same as a woman's
attention. Really?
A woman giving me a mindful compliment about something I put
time or effort into resonates beyond
like, you know, just kind of like... Okay.
Well, that's because you're attracted to women.
no it's
you're not attracted to women
it's not because of that
I know exactly what he's talking about
okay so tell me describe
because women compliment me and it bounces off
I'm like oh thanks babe
in the simplest way to describe it
we as men are so
horny that it doesn't take
much to
go
yeah exactly
whereas like a woman I feel like it
requires a lot more for them to like
to deliver a thoughtful
comment. Yeah, it's
unga-bunga-brain. Yeah, you're right.
I do see that. I have, I used
to, when I modeled, I would, I have
this backlog of
DMs that I would be sent because I was
small to where I'd see them all and it was really funny
to me. Right. And when I say
it's like, okay, the behaviors
of straight men and gay men are still
defined by one operative word and that is men.
It is just the same shit
every woman I know has gone through.
It's just the most untethered,
insatiably horny
borderline incoherent shots in the dark
just like I had one guy just be like
okay wait
I don't know I'll actually go all the way in this
but it was a lot okay
I've heard it all
yeah no I'm sure you know I've probably been on the other end of the message
yeah who's him
anonymous account um I will say
I've been so horny I can't even speak straight
I will
one of my favorite DMs I ever got
this is the boys episode we know we've been in the same boat
but my but I
I will say, it still feels great.
It's very flattering.
I still like it.
I still appreciate it.
I think any compliment feels good.
You know what I mean?
It's nice to feel affirmed for something that you, you know, might be putting effort into with like to know is recognized for what it is.
Okay, follow up question.
If nobody's got me, the gay's got me.
And that's, that's, you know, it has not gone on notice.
What feels better then?
A nice compliment from a straight man or a compliment from a gay man?
Okay, I'd like to take the lead on this.
I don't think the origin of the compliment is as significant as the specificity of the compliment.
Someone who's really paying attention to something that, like, I don't, if someone's like, wow, you're tall or something, it's like, that's not really, it's like an observation at a certain point, you know what I mean?
But if it's something I put effort into, you know, if someone is, if someone comes up to me and calls me hot, it's like, okay, thank you.
You know what I mean?
Like, don't get me wrong.
It's nice to know, I guess, on some level.
By the way, I am paying attention to you, but unfortunately, I have.
two bad sides now, so I have to just
look straight. Austin, you look beautiful.
What do you mean? You have two bad sides? I've been finding
because the camera used to look good from this angle
and I've been like, holy shit. Can I also
offer a point of constructive criticism before you
see the episode? Yes. I think
that the bandana is going to create a silhouette
you're unhappy with.
Oh, no!
Give me the bandana. Do we have to re-record?
Give me the bandana. Oh, no.
Oh, my gosh. I just, I think that... I'll be
honest, I kind of look like shit. I look frazzled.
No, you look great.
You look great.
Wait, wait.
Did it make it look like I didn't have a jawline?
Oh, see, look at what Will's doing.
It looked like what Will's doing.
Yeah, look at what Will's doing.
You see that?
There you go.
Just craning your neck forward like a turtle.
What do you do it?
It's like you're feeding a baby bird for the first time ever.
I don't know how.
Is that good?
It's better.
It's significantly better.
It's significantly better.
The other one was just like hiding your jawline
and making it look like you had...
You had it on like a bib at Red Lobster.
It looked like you had, what is it called,
goiter?
And you were just hiding it.
Austin, you had some topics you wanted to talk about.
Oh, no, no, we were just talking about them.
I like it.
One thing I want to talk about,
because we didn't actually have the time to do so
because the last episode we recorded
was before TwitchCon, was TwitchCon.
I wanted to see...
I was in TwitchCon.
How your experiences were at...
TwitchCon in general, because I was afar.
Well, where do I start?
Well, I had a good time, as I always do.
But what do we want to talk about about TwitchCon specifically?
I don't get nervous.
Who you saw that you haven't seen in a while.
Oh, yeah.
You know, normal human things, Austin.
Okay.
What the fuck?
I went to TwitchCon.
I attended.
And I got my team.
ticket.
Why is this turning into like a, like we're not trying to extract information out of you.
Oh, okay.
Well, I don't know anything.
So.
So, um, go on.
I went to Twitch guy.
I got there on.
Go.
Oh.
Yeah, it's getting too late.
Boom.
Yours wasn't loaded.
How are you?
Have you ever operated a gun in there?
Is this real?
That would be crazy.
Yeah.
Have you just shot and killed me?
Anyway
A lot of people
Will be stoked
Okay
Are these real?
No
Okay
Okay
So I went to TwitchCon
I had a
I got there on a Wednesday
Which is why I missed the podcast
That's crazy
That you miss the podcast
So you can be hit TwitchCon a day early
No I had to rehearse
I had a show that I had to rehearse on
The night before
Or the morning before
After
So went to Twitchcon
I had a show on Saturday
I was in between two queens
I got to meet one of my favorite drag queens, Trixie Mattel.
Got to hang out and chat with her.
She's fabulous.
It was an awesome experience.
I, you know, went to several parties,
and I ended up at the gay bar every night,
which was fun.
It's one of my favorite things to do at TwitchCon
is get through all the parties and then go to the gay bar,
which a lot of the gay bars were there.
For the first time in our long friendship,
Yes.
I saw Austin completely disheveled at one point.
Wait, really?
No, do tell.
He got in the elevator looking like 10 pounds of shit in a 5-pound bag.
Well, tell him what preceded that.
I just remember you were stroking a subway bag.
Well, no, I came down the elevator.
Well, okay, so I was thinking, you know, it was about 3 o'clock in the morning,
and I was like, well, I'm just going to order some food.
So I ordered some subway, which is not BDS, is it?
I don't think so.
Well, if it is.
I do apologize for that.
If it is, I didn't eat it.
You bought it to throw it out.
A generic sandwich shop.
I ordered food from...
Okay?
Anyways, so I ordered food from a generic sandwich shop,
and I was like 3 o'clock in the morning.
I'm not going to see anybody down there.
Right.
So I came down the elevator and saw everybody down there.
And so I snuck out, and I grabbed the subway sandwich,
and then there was fucking Will.
Yeah.
And I had to, like, try to sneak past him, but I got caught.
Wait, why was your pussy ass back in your hotel room before 3 a.m?
What?
Who are you?
No, no, no.
Who are you?
I thought I could just sneak that by, okay, without you call it.
The fuck?
Yeah, who are you, Mr. 10 p.m?
Yeah.
So anyway, but Will saw me.
I did. I went to bed every night at 10 p.m.
And I was just a fucking mess.
Beligerent.
I look just, I looked like shit.
You told me straight up.
You're like, Austin.
you look like shit.
It's the only time I've not seen your hair up.
Yeah.
Wait,
can you?
It was like the life actually drained out of you so hard that it was.
It doesn't look good down,
does it?
I've never seen your hair down.
Yeah,
because it looks like shit.
Oh my God.
I just realized.
It was like it was deactivated.
It was like seeing your teacher in elementary school just belligerently drunk
and how that can leave a scar and impression.
Yeah.
So,
and there was this poor girl on the elevator.
She was in the elevator with us
And as I was leaving the elevator
Will was like making fun of me
As we were going up the elevator
And then as I leave the elevator
The doors are shutting
And he turns to the scroll and says
I've never met that man in my life
Yeah
But anyway
You pity this woman for bearing witness to you
Yes, okay
I do
I feel sorry for her
I was pretty stoked for you though
That you got to let your hair down
Oh literally
Not in public
I cannot believe in all the years
I've known you
I don't think I've ever seen
I didn't know it went down
It does
Yeah
It does unfortunately
How long does it take
To keep it like this
How long does it take to what
Goff it
How much work
Does it take to keep it up?
Yeah quaff it
Just like
10 minutes
Oh
I use a lot of thickening sprays
And
Okay
Wait how was your TwitchCon
TwitchCon
You know
Eventful
I get
Well I mean it was an eventful
Twitchcon in general
There was a lot of discourse
A lot of things
Were said about
TwitchCon.
So all, I mean, as an individual who likes to make himself available to friends and to be
present, I'd say that because of that, it was kind of fucking insane.
But I had fun, you know, it was in a show.
It was my first time being on the main stage, which, you know, was electric.
I lost the competition, actually, pretty significantly.
It was almost humiliating, actually.
What was the competition on?
I would love to explain it to you again, but the show was so convoluted.
forgot. It was like a codex.
That's why you fucking lost, Wake.
It was like, it was
a geogessor. Okay.
So it was like a geogessor thing
with like code names
in it and then some kind of, you had to
crack an ancient codex and then go
and open a bunch of locks.
I don't, it was bizarre.
I understand why you lost the race
or whatever, the competition. Yeah, it was
tough. It was tough. I did do all on code names
though. It was good. Yeah, a triumphant moment.
Got to hang out with my boy Rob Ced and Zoyle.
Yeah, God, Zoyle is
fucking huge. God, he's tall. I love, I love being around Zoyle. He just makes me feel like
I'm normal. Yeah. Awesome. I was on an airplane with Zoyle. Oh, wow. How was that? I mean,
I watched him go into an airplane bathroom and then come out of it. And that was me the most
incredible thing he'd ever see. Was he in first class? No, it was Southwest, bro. There's no
first class. Oh, yeah. There ain't no first class in South West. No. Was he at least like first
pick so he could sit in the front? No, he sat. I was in the front row. He was on the plane first
and still sat behind me.
I don't know.
Wait.
He picked a middle seat.
He chose a worse seat.
I don't get it.
I don't know.
And you know what?
He like slapped sound.
He like a big old baby.
I guess at that size you're just kind of used to being squinched up.
Well, that's what I say.
It's like like you and I are the upper end of normal tall where it's like you're not going.
When I look at Zoil, it's like you've got to be like in the NBA or something or this is just an inconvenience.
Yeah.
No.
Like the world doesn't make.
for you. I think post 6-5, like once you get into the 6-6 territory, you're, it's a burden more
than a blessing, I think, unless you can make something of it with your height. Yeah. I'd just be
haunted by not being an NBA player. Could you imagine being seven feet tall and like working
in accounting? Yeah. Like what? Yeah. You got it. You got like a one in five chance
statistically to be in the NBA. That's true. Yeah. It's, it's, it sucks. But as far as
pushman goes, I have a, I have a take.
Yeah. Let's get into it.
I think a lot of people, a lot of people, obviously by now have litigated and relitigated
the, the assault that Emeru withstood.
And much has been said about the lackluster security, which I agree with.
I also agree with.
I can go into that if you want.
As someone who has, you know, headlined these events and as someone who actually very
publicly said he wasn't going in an effort to make sure that there wasn't like any psychos,
that would put myself or others in harm's way.
And I've gotten the best security of Twitchcons
in spite of all of that.
I think there is something a little bit different
that is left unaddressed in the discourse.
And I think that's just like the culture surrounding streaming
has changed.
And I do feel like clip culture
and the constant like forced interactions
that people are creating.
first with their friends
but with like
but the culture that is like
that it has created
has made it like normal
to kind of behave weirdly
around other people
in an effort to get like
viral TikToks out of it
and I think that has made everything
a little bit more
at least from afar
when I was watching from afar
it made things feel less sincere
and less communal
as opposed to previous search cons
that I had attended
where there was a sense of community there
oh yeah
I mean I think there's two issues
of play. I think the first issue at play is like Twitch streamers and streamers have a new level
of celebrity that is compounding every year. And Twitch needs to adapt to the fact that like we're not
or were, I won't include myself in that category. There is a category on the elk of streamer
that is like a mainline celebrity now and you have to protect them like a mainline celebrity.
Yeah.
The second is talk to any woman on the internet.
The amount of harassment and stalking and obsession that they face is so beyond what you would glean from any kind of outward examination of it that like we need to adapt.
I mean, not just our security, but like our lawmaking, our policing.
And even our culture as well.
Well, like, because like female streamers are not just being like, you know, assaulted like
Emmy, but like you look overseas and women are being killed and like it's happened in our country.
And I think I don't know how much violence and stalking and threatening and assault needs to happen before we take notice of the fact that the internet is a breeding ground for really predatory behavior against women.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
And I always stress that, like, what you see is not even the tip of the iceberg.
Like, it's just such a tiny fraction.
What you end up seeing is, is nothing in comparison to the, the unimaginable amount of cyber-stalking, cyber harassment that leads to real-life stalking and real-life harassment.
And this doesn't just pertain to the likes of Emeru, who is the largest female content creator on the platform.
but like if you're a woman and you got 10 fans you got one stalker yeah like it's crazy yeah
and we're saying this from like all of our conversations uh with our with our female colleagues in
general so like um i think there is a there is a culture that certainly feeds into that as well and
there's this attitude of entitlement emiru's frustration with twitch khan is kind of like a microcosm
of all of these women's frustration with the total lack of empathy
or action to help them.
I'm not going to name the creator,
but there was one creator I knew on Twitch,
and she was going through the level of stalking
that she was enduring,
and it was like nothing I had ever seen in my life,
like just pages and pages and pages of manifestos and death threats.
And I, like, this was years ago,
and I kind of posed to her, like,
what is law enforcement doing about this situation?
And she's like, well, they keep telling me
there's nothing really they can do
until there's like a credible this
or something that.
Yeah.
And there needs to be some kind of, like, waking up to the fact that, like, we need a
new way to categorize, enforce, and protect.
Perhaps a new agency.
Well, even beyond, I think what we're realizing is that the rate at which technology
is augmenting, not just, like, you know, the Internet itself in the ways that we consume
media, but also in turn, the kind of perspectives that it manufactures for us, right?
the speed with which that occurs is significantly and exponentially with each passing year
greater than the speed of lawmaking.
It is just so profoundly sluggish.
I mean, even with AI, like, AI, every time there's a new release of like SORA or whatever,
there is a new tool that some sickos can utilize.
And I saw it, like I saw it with last night's or tonight's debate earlier,
before I shot this podcast
as I was watching the New York Merrill debate
in which like
Andrew Cuomo's team
released the AI slot video
where they showed like
a black dude wearing a kaffia
that kind of looked like Idraselba
stealing and shoplifting and be like
I'm a criminal and I love Zoraamamani
and then they quickly subsequently deleted it
but like that's crazy
but like that kind of stuff is so
unacceptable and the fact that like our lawmakers
are leaning into that
in races that they want to win
seemingly and the culture surrounding it is like not even remotely interested in punishing it
or saying what are you fucking doing like this is crazy that i fear uh is is becoming increasingly
normalized by the way before we move off it you know the we made the right person famous meme i
for a person i already have a tremendous amount of respect for it in emmy the fact that she
came out, finished the meet and greet, I believe, and then also did her show the next day
is like crazy.
Blisteringly composed.
Dude, that is digging deep.
Like, I'm the king of digging deep.
And I looked at that and I was like, yo, you're, that's wild.
And that is, I don't know, that's a level of professionalism and composure that is just like,
crazy.
It was like, because she was like, I don't want to do it, but like all these other people that
I care about, have spent a lot of time and effort to come to this thing, and they're expecting
to be on station ice. So I'm just going to do it. It's mad props to Emeru for sure. To find an
otherwise bleak and dismal sea of self-interest, someone considering the effort and experiences
of others is something to like really spotlight and cherish in my eyes. So I think like one great
additional point, 100%. It's not just like grid. It's like legitimate conscientiousness, which is
woefully, um, you know, decaying. Um, but it really does bring a lot of interesting questions up,
man. Like when you talk about how the concept of like content creation is shifting towards
being like flagrantly problematic or antagonistic to the ends of producing clipable content,
it's like we now also have to consider that the legitimacy with which these clips are even
posted or presented is something that we have no control over. And that's even in the absence of AI
augmentation so not to get like too dense i don't really know the tone of the show i all the clips i see
are just austin talking about um like twinks and like that's really it okay hold on can i address this
i only see now i have literally had hold on i have literally had three maybe two to three maybe four
or five total twink clips in the history of this podcast that have gone popular i i could name them
one was uh with tana mojo where i said i like twinks you probably are you sitting here and tell
Wait, just give me a second.
Tanamojo where I like Twinks.
The one where he said I was shipping Twinks across the country, which, by the way, was not true, false.
Economy, or whatever is what he said.
I was flying them out economy.
He said I was flying Twinks out economy.
Number two.
Number three, it was when the street twinks.
That was number three.
Street Twinks.
Okay, so that was like the three twink clips that have ever gone viral.
But there are other clips.
Yeah, there are a lot of other clips.
They just don't go as viral.
I didn't post them.
But, Austin, isn't this oppression tie-in to my last point of, wow, look at how certain clips can be decontextualized, how they can lead a conversation?
I, wait, I love Twinks.
No, no, no, no.
You know what?
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I didn't, I never just talk about twinks or flights.
All right, so hit us with it.
The Louvre.
We're going to talk about the Louvre.
Okay, I had a Reddit topic we were going to talk about.
Before we move on.
finish you. While you load this, I do need to talk about something controversial in my world.
Marsh, please bring up the Jets Kid.
Oh, we all seen it by now.
Jets, kid. So this week, I was sent the same clip over a hundred times by my family, my friends, my peers, people that I had met at a coffee shop one time.
actually by a member of the Jets.
And this is the clip.
Are they actively on the Jets?
Actively on the Jets.
I'll see them and get your thoughts on the game.
I hate this team.
I was born into this and I'm not going to ever.
I'm always a Jets fan, but like, I just, I hate this team.
How badly did they lose?
Well, they lost the Carolina Panthers, which is one of the worst team in football.
But it's just fascinating to see, like, something that I've talked about.
Are they 0 and 7?
Yes.
Being born into a fan base, like.
Like a child coal miner.
Yeah.
Waving in the pits of a Pennsylvania mine.
Excepting his fate.
Look.
As they preload cigarettes into his mouth and prepare his body for the dust.
There's three more hours, bud.
I was also born into a franchise that's never won anything,
substantial, the Minnesota Vikings.
And I know what it's like to be a kid that age
where you have such an idealistic view of the world.
You think that anything is possible.
It's for the first time,
your life is a majority consumed with hope.
And you slowly over time,
that hope gets destroyed by your favorite football team.
And you face a lot of realities
at a very young age that maybe you will never win.
And he's starting to come to that reality.
And I, you know, it took me many years, but I'd certainly have those moments, like in 2009, when Brett Farp threw an interception over the middle of his body in 2014 when Blair Walsh missed a 27-yard field goal in the playoffs versus the Seattle Seahawks, you know, the list goes on.
Oh, in the playoffs.
In the playoffs.
Must be nice.
Well, when the Eagles beat us 387 in the NFC championship.
Can I, I've made this argument before.
I think it's tougher to be a Vikings fan because we've never, because we make it to the big game and then we lose.
You would like to be 0.7 right now?
No, but you have no.
hope. So at least you're not emotionally invested, right? I mean, come on. You have no emotional
investment. The Vikings get my hopes up every year and then rip my fucking heart. You have something to
watch, Austin. Yeah, this is why I said, uh, as soon as I saw this clip first, I was like,
that's young Will Neff. Yeah. And it teaches you a lot about resilience. And I think we need to
immediately radicalize all the Jets fans to becoming socialist. So they also, because they're used to
taking a lifetime of elves. Well. So that's fine. Like they already have that resilience, that built in
base. To that kid, if you see this, I'd like to send you something. You want a gaming
PC? Because you're done watching the Jets this year. If you reach out to the Fear End pot, I'd be happy
to send something to Long Island or New Jersey or New York where you are. How do you know that he's not
in Philadelphia? He'd be a Eagles fan. But there's no set that, like, to switch to a winning
team just is like, there's no, that's no fun. No. No, you can't respect.
You got to stick with your team through thick and think of that.
I will sit and watch the Minnesota Vikings every single game, regardless of their record or if they're not going to make the playoffs.
Right.
Sit there because I will sit there in pain and I will suffer because when they win one day, it'll feel that much better than I was there during the low times.
That's insane.
Well, you don't know, no, this is the soul of fandom because it's not about the experience of winning.
It's about the hope that one day you could.
Winning will never be that cool.
It's going to the point of maybe winning that's excited.
I genuinely believe that when the Vikings win a Super Bowl one year, I will break down in tears.
I get chills.
I believe that.
I get chills thinking about it.
They're multiplying.
He wants to keep edging it forever.
You know what I mean?
There'll be one grandiose climax.
Part of me does think, like, when they do win, I mean, like, what's left in my life.
That's, yeah.
That's insane.
I'm the Jets fan and I don't even feel that way.
Well, no, I'm just like, you know, what is left to root for in my life?
If the Vikings are the winning season.
I think I can, I can, I can, I think that's it for me.
I suppose, but it's like I've reached.
He's just going to kill himself.
At that, at that point, at that point, I have reached Valhalla.
He really did.
And they can take me.
You know what I mean?
They can take me.
You get struck down.
All right.
Let's talk about.
the Louvre. No, actually, I don't want to talk about that.
I want to give a shout out
to President Trump, the most
pro-LGBQ presidency
in history. He has pardoned
George Santos. Marsh, pull it up.
Wow. That's right.
Just Google George Santos. I had to sound
like I was prepared.
He did do that.
So he gave
criminal fraudster
who did charity fraud
who had a pretty solid open and shut case, George Santos.
That's right.
That's right.
It's now been released.
So what the fuck was the reason for this?
Like, other than the fact that Trump is obviously gay and pro-LGBQ, right?
And for those that are watching and need a tone indicator slash J, obviously he is not, he is not a fucking pro-LGB president, okay?
He's horrific on a number of issues.
specifically against trans-brile slash j not serious i love gay people but anyway
yeah i love him for trump we'll have to bleep that out yeah he had a he had a statement
that he revealed uh he had a statement that he had a statement that he released after george santos
released but what i thought was really funny is uh george santos won um first uh criminal
to have been uh on the uh connor eats pants yes fortnight friday yeah has been released was he first or was
Exotic first. No, Joe Exotic is the one
that hasn't been released. So that's why I said
Did, was he on four and a half writers from prison?
Yes. It's fucking insane.
Yeah. Conner's killing it. Really, truly.
He is, he is.
Maybe the most
even kill investigative journalists
on the internet right now. At a time when
legacy media has really dropped
the ball and democracy is
dying in the darkness. Connary's pants
wearing a Will Smith fortnight
skin asks the hard-hitting
questions. I mean, he did. He literally had
Gavin Newsom, he was like, this Israel stuff
is pretty cool. Can I say something
publicly? He pushed the governor
on the issue of
Israel more than CNN,
MSNBC, ABC,
CBS ever has. While playing as
OJ Simpson. Yeah.
I'm so incredibly proud
of Connor because, I mean,
he is absolutely killing
it. Yeah. And I
couldn't be more proud and happy for him.
He's put together a fantastic show and he's able
to galvanize his audience
to, on Twitter, to get these high-profile people.
And it's incredible what he's doing.
And he deserves.
Could do the same.
Well, look, I've got a lot of stuff cooking.
I had a great day yesterday.
A lot of meetings.
A lot of new ideas.
Well, we'll talk about that later.
Anyway, we're talking about Connor.
Actually, that is part of it.
Name it price.
No, no, no.
I got a new show.
In the tub.
Can't talk about it.
Actually, in the tub is definitely making a comeback.
But anyway, couldn't be more proud of that.
Connors incredible.
But anyway, I did find it really funny because he got released.
And then immediately his first tweet, I think, was something along the lines of like,
Zoram Mundani is bringing about lawlessness and criminality to the beautiful city that I once called home.
I will be immediately leaving New York City.
And everyone was like, Zoron's not even mayor yet.
And he's already getting the criminals out.
Wait, so, Ken, do you think would you think, would you?
Would you, could we ask him to be a guest in this podcast?
Would we get hate for that?
Or Zoram? Santos.
Um, yeah.
Will we get hate for that?
Yeah, for sure.
Really?
But he's, to me, he's just a fucking meme.
Yeah.
No, we could do it.
I think it's fine.
I mean, it's up to, it's a democracy, so we'll vote on it, but I'm fine with that.
I'm going to wait to see what the people say, and then I'll vote.
Ah.
Because I'm a man of the people.
Oh, my God.
True.
Truly, truly political.
But Zoron, yes.
I think he, I think he would
But you know, interesting
But what, but Hassan, what was the point of him being pardoned?
Like, why did he pardon him?
He doesn't give off the fuck.
No, Trump just said he's a Republican.
That's literally what he said.
No, I'm not even kidding.
Trump's statement after releasing George Santos' prison was
he's a lifelong Republican voter, so I did it.
And he just don't give him.
As in, as in, he knows nobody gives a fuck.
Nobody gives a fuck about George Santos.
in general, but, like, I think
people are fatigued
by the minimal
amount of attention that they're paying
to whatever the fuck
Trump is doing on any given day.
And he's doing a lot. So I think
I think people are just like, what?
It's like, it's hard.
It's hard to get angry anymore. It's hard
when everything you're doing is chaotic
and crazy when you're just like,
ah, fuck it, George Santos, whatever. You're free.
Because you're a Republican.
Yeah. Cool. What precedent does that
set for America.
We have no precedent.
We have no institution.
Pardon precedents in and of themselves can be kind of murky, right?
Because at the end of the day, what do they really have to offer by way of explanation?
They can just kind of hand wave it.
Yeah.
They can just be like, whatever.
No, but that's why I think it's like, he's just straight up signaling.
If you do a crime in your Republican, I will release you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, it's just a real Mussolini hours.
It's also just an opportunity to like dunk on the lives, you know?
I mean, like, it's always, oh, they're so mad that we're strong and unified, you know?
I mean, oh, God.
Speaking of crimes, though, I do think it's important to talk about the loo.
The liu.
Because I personally really appreciate old school.
Jewel Heist.
Yeah, old school crimes like this.
I was talking about how I was trying to encourage a group of engineers we know.
Oh, true.
To steal a bunch of de blooms on the bottom of the scene floor.
Not even stealing, though.
Technically under international waters, like, it's not.
Is he considered stealing?
I don't know.
I think that that is maybe the coolest way to get rich.
Is stealing?
Deblooms.
Oh, de Blooms.
Well, I mean, yeah.
Or just like jewelry.
Jewel thief.
Yeah.
Italian job.
You look good, man.
Awesome.
Thank you.
You look good.
Yes.
Museum heists have changed.
Why the Louvre robbery is a worrying escalation says CNN style.
Now, I actually did a little bit of a deep dive into this.
And I don't think this is.
that museum heists have changed at all.
I think that museums are remarkably insecure.
And I was shocked.
They did it pretty slap dick.
Yeah.
Just to give people context, if you didn't hear,
some of the crown jewels were stolen from the Louvre this last week.
Oh, that's sick.
I think it was a team of six.
Yeah.
Robbers pulled up outside with a, like, furniture moving piece of, like,
car with like a ramp on it yeah pulled up under the ladder yeah under the window climb the lamp used
up uh at night no during the day no during the day use a angle grinder to cut a hole in the window
used the same angle did the truck block the view of the window no it was on the first floor and the
window was on the second floor oh shit um use the same angle grinder to threaten the cards and then
to saw open
the displays, grabbed
a bunch of the crown jewels, including
one of the king's crowns,
which they dropped on the way out
and damaged. Into the gutter.
Made their way down.
Escape vehicle pulled up.
They tried to set the original
car on fire,
failed, and sped away in an escape.
Did they get away?
Yes. Now,
does, how the fuck do you sell
the king's jewel?
So, there are two different ways that crimes of this magnitude or this style are committed.
One, you either have a pre-established buyer ahead of time, especially if it's a high-profile piece
that just wants the thing intact, you know, like an oil baron or something.
So it's like somebody in the Middle East or, like, or Russia or any number of different places.
Elon Musk.
So you have, you have that.
But the other way that they could do it is that the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
total worth of the stolen artifacts, I think,
is around 102 million euros.
So it's a significant number.
It also happens to be like, XQC's kick contract.
Just so people understand, like.
I was gonna say, that's kind of shockingly affordable
for museum jewels.
Yeah, so what they could do is technically
take these priceless gems and break them down.
And I think there's like something about like the way gems are cut
after a certain period where there's like a way to figure out exactly what artifact it belongs to,
but these are so old that there is no way, so you could just like break it down.
But the loss for history is so significant that like people are hoping,
including the police that straight up said, look, the money is not the problem here.
The problem is like, this is a major loss for history.
Please do not break the jewels down.
Okay, but $102 million.
Why didn't they just go to Jared?
What?
Like he went to Jared's?
Yeah, like, why don't they just go to Jared's?
Do you think the average jewelry has, like, jeweler has $102 million?
Maybe you can hit a few of them.
No, no, no, no, this is a very question.
But the other reason is, and I'll fill you both in, first, they don't have that much product on them.
Second, the security at a Jared is probably tighter than it is at the Lube.
No, infinitely tighter, not even a question.
Jewel heist do happen, but the security for jewelry stores is far greater than what we found out was the security for museums.
Do you think that the mystique was the deterrent?
Like, they were like, of course you can't rob the loom.
There's a couple different automatic deterrents there.
High profile pieces have been stolen in the past, like the Mona Lisa was stolen at some point.
The fucking stole the Mona Lisa?
They got it back.
Yeah, they got it back.
Why do they get it back?
because you couldn't fence the fucking
Mona Lisa. So they actually
caught it. I think he's just like, the, the robber
had it in his, like, trunk of his car or something.
He's had it in a Ford Ranger.
Yeah, because, like, because that is
the reason why it's very difficult. I love the idea of
a jewel thief in France
driving a Ford Ranger. And like a
Kia Sorrento, just fucking jam.
He definitely drove a fucking mopad.
Yeah, like a Mini Cooper or something. Like, something
European, like a Peugeot. A
Pigeau. Agenu.
but yeah so that's that's the deterrent factor in and of itself is that like it's very difficult
to fence these items um and then there's like a massive manhunt that takes place and stuff
as well there are known jewelry thief groups by the way which i thought was really interesting
like there's known elements known criminal elements already that people know uh so it is exactly
like the movies in that regard um but overall overall i'm gonna give you some facts the the area
that they broke into
is the area
of the Louvre
that has the most
priceless gems
and also I believe
it might be the same place
of the Mona Lisa
is in the section
of Mona Lisa is in
well the Mona Lisa
behind six inches
of bulletproof glass
so yeah
okay so they
reinforced Mona
but they didn't
have an opportunity
but here's the thing
exactly
you think they would have
reinforced the rest
they did not have
reinforced glass
and get this
75%
or no 35%
of all of the priceless artifacts in the lure
are never under constant surveillance
75%
35% are not under constant surveillance. So only
Airbnbs are under more surveillance than that. Yes. Yes, it's
crazy. So I have one story that I want to tell you guys about
where it was actually boss mode of a country
allegedly a country executing a
jewelry theft, but it wasn't actually a theft. It was
It was actually an extraction of their own priceless artifacts that were stolen from them initially.
It was China.
And then I have another question for you guys.
When I heard the story, I was a little confused because I was under the suspicion that they just usually have dupes up there.
And everyone told me I was stupid.
Did you think that this dumb?
Like, did you know that like when you go to the museum, the thing that you're looking at is definitely the genuine thing?
When I went to Italy, I realized that David, I went and saw the statue of David in Florence.
Right.
And David, they had a fake David out front.
Yes.
But they did have the real David in there.
Yeah, they admit to that.
They will tell you, I think, when it's not, the real display is not there.
No, the one that they have out front.
is never the real David.
The real David is now always in a room.
No, I know, yeah.
Because of the very nerdy thing,
micro fractures in his ankles.
So the way that David was built,
he's enormously thin for a pro,
like a statue of that type,
and his entire profile is very thin.
And it's because they source a large...
Because Michelangelo was gay.
Well, no, they sourced a large block of marble
and they had to drag it from where they had it in Italy initially.
And it took them,
years to drag this piece of marble.
And the original artist commissioned to do it
wasn't Michelangelo
was another artist
who didn't have the skill
and he started chipping away at the block
and made it much too thin.
So they brought in Michelangelo to fix it.
David is like very petite and thin
and could topple over at any moment.
And this was the first thing
you wanted to see in Italy, yeah?
David?
This very petite and thin naked man.
Look, I did have a point on that.
Do you know why?
do you know why
Roman statues are notorious
for having small penises?
Yes, large penises are seen as barbaric.
No. Because most people,
that's what a penis looks like.
Hold on.
When it's flaccid.
You know what? I'm going to go ahead.
I'm sick and tired of this idea
that people are hanging big cock.
Like a lot of us are,
a lot of the statues,
we're growers.
Okay.
And I don't appreciate this notion
that like penis is out there
and I've been advocating for this
for a long time, wake.
Did you feel more comfortable?
Look, I have a fine...
We've been through this before.
My penis is fine.
In fact, sometimes I look at it.
I'm like, wow!
That's a nice penis!
Who put that there?
It's almost too big.
Sometimes the lighting is hitting perfect.
Yeah, it looks distinguished.
It looks beautiful.
Standing tall.
Austin, did someone tell you about the penis thing
or did you just come to that conclusion on your own
to make yourself feel better?
I've seen a lot of penises out.
I mean,
I trust you when it comes to the...
Because you have a big penis.
Okay.
Thank you.
I mean, I'm sorry to put you out like that.
Was that inappropriate?
No, well, not for you, never.
I feel like as a straight man,
I feel like I feel comfortable saying that to a straight man,
because it's never going to be like...
This is a Twitch Hymbo's trio.
Yeah, Twitch Hymbo is talking about...
There was literally a post about our three penis.
Yeah, that's true.
How dear.
Wait, mine?
No.
You were excluded.
Oh, I was excluded.
That's so strange.
Look, I'll be honest.
Fine, fine.
You guys have bigger flaccid penises than me.
And maybe you have to make me more.
No.
Don't say it.
Whatever, fine.
But I have the smallest penis in the table.
It's the motion of the ocean.
It is all the size of it.
I have a fight.
My penis is over six and a half inches.
All right.
Yeah, we totally believe you.
Can we bleep that out?
I don't know if that's appropriate.
It is greater than that.
It's less than seven, but great...
Depends on the wind and the temperature of the room.
So, anyway, jewel thieves.
Wait, hold on.
I'm not done with the penis element yet.
So, just so we're clear,
David is like, he has, like, cum-gutter abs.
Yes, he's hot.
So the thing that the only element of David,
that they were like,
this has to be relatable to everyone
was the penis.
They make this
called a god and they're like
but his cock must be modest.
Look look at this.
Now I'll be honest
mine is bigger than that
but
Hey dude, let's go, come on.
So you went and you saw
Austin, Austin, a priceless historical artifact
of the entire time you're thinking
I got a bigger day.
There it is. I mean, look
I got a bigger one than that.
Look, in relatively speaking,
what's frustrated about this
is the entire body
is like the penis is the only thing
that's not to scale
well you know what I mean
I don't think it doesn't
I think it suits the body fine
anyway Michelangelo was a gay man
so he saw a lot of penises in his
and that's how you know
it's accurate because he saw a lot of penises
it's literally what I said
I'm pretty sure it's because like
it wasn't phoenix and it was
indicative of like being a
monster bark it wasn't
yeah it was not aesthetic at the time
well I think
all big penis
Maybe you should say, oh, it's still not the aesthetic.
You think that big penis is just like all of a sudden they became popular?
Yes.
Really?
Because women gained agency.
Oh, man, what a sentence here, Marsh.
What is that?
While Michelangelo's sexual orientation has never been definitively proven, there is strong evidence that he was gay.
Supported by his passionate poetry, drawings, and his close relationship with young men.
That is AI.
Yeah, but he was definitely...
Look at why penises on stashes are small.
Yeah, can we get...
Well, it's because it's...
Oh, let's just say why they're of...
Did they have a specific shape to them?
Yeah, not small, but...
To some cultural or social standards.
I mean, look, we do know that it's more accurate,
and that's why we don't even need to look at it.
Do you think that it has to do with maybe like a reverence for growing?
Let's see.
Kind of like a David...
Small penises because I imagine it's something, something, something,
it's more accurate representative of the human body.
Fettish something they're actually better
How about, let's just
been holding a minute. Wait, hold on to the
contemporary eye, their bodies are ideal
except for one, ahem, seminal
detail. They may have
small to very small penises
compared to the average of humanity.
They're even, they're even
doing penis propaganda
in the art. Historian
Hang on, can we see Hercules' cock real quick?
Thank you. Like, that's probably,
that probably grows to a solid six inches.
Is that your guesstimate?
I'm telling you, I've seen, I'm telling you.
Like you're a prospector doing a blueprint.
I'm telling you.
For those of you who have been out.
Look, rewind of the ancient Greek world of around 400 BC, which is when Austin would have thrived.
The small penis was- You'll find these large erect penises were not considered desirable, nor were they assign a power or strength.
Well, I say it all the time.
It couldn't possibly be part of like a meta-build.
No.
For procreation, that's just legitimate inconvenience.
You know what I mean?
Okay, first of all, I don't ascribe to this.
I really don't.
Those are two separate art historians that are quoted in the article, Austin.
Yeah, well, let's see their penis, and I'm sure it'll match.
I'm sure it'll match up to what the statue looks like.
That's crazy.
You know?
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, my Lord.
We didn't really talk about it.
No, we didn't talk about it that much, but that'll be all for this week's non-pay-walled episode.
folks. Thank you so much for watching. And of course, we have a paywalled episode behind
at patreon.com slash fear. And thank you so much for his support. Happy Halloween. Is that where
you talk more about Cox? Yeah. We'll talk way more about Cox behind the paywall. You already
know what it is. Am I the paywall one sec? There's a vlog
of Hassan and I, right?
Mesh.
Oh, wait, what do I want to shout out? Oh, wait, what do I want to shout out?
Yeah, wait. What are you? What are you? What are people find you?
I big barbarous speakers.
That does not.
You know what, shout out to Austin's show, a champion of all bodies.
I'll show you my penis.
I've had this dream.
Next TwitchCon.
Uh-oh.
I know what he's going to say.
Stadium full of people.
Glitch theater.
Yeah.
They have no idea what's about to happen.
Oh, no.
Light comes up.
It's me, shirtless, leather pants, and a very skilled piercer.
And they put piercings in my back.
and suspend me from hooks.
You ever heard of a hook suspension?
Okay.
I feel like that's a medieval torture method.
I'm suspended from hooks.
Going into shock and I have to paint
suggestions from the audience
as a bit threshold
sprays lemon juice on my back
to further go into intense bouts of pain.
Thank you.
