Fear& - We Forced Them To Be On Our Podcast.. | Fear&WineAboutIt

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/FEAR10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $25 discount Maya willingly came on our podcast, the title is just clickbait. She absolutely wanted to be here and was definitely not forced against her will to film this episode at all. Follow and support Alveus Sanctuary so she can see how friendly and wholesome the Fear& community is and maybe she'll wanna come back. Okay thanks for watching byeeeeeeeeee :DD Alveus Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/c/AlveusSanctuary Alveus Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/alveussanctuary ✨EXTRA BONUS EPISODES ON PATREON✨ Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/FearAnd 🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS 🎧 🔊https://linktr.ee/fearand ❤️ follow our guest! ❤️Maya: https://twitter.com/mayahigaAlveus: https://x.com/alveussanctuary ❤️ follow Fear&! ❤️ Hasan: https://twitter.com/Hasanthehun Will: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeff QT: https://twitter.com/QTCinderella Austin: https://twitter.com/Austinontwitter Marche: https://twitter.com/Marche Fear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPod Chapters - 00:00:00 - FearAboutIt 00:02:02 - the "real" intro 00:03:15 - fear& is the new testament 00:04:20 - weekly gifting segment 00:06:30 - willneff hates maya 00:07:52 - austin missed a flight 00:08:29 - we are so getting demonitized... 00:11:20 - id finish the dinner too if I was being honest 00:14:37 - we judge the way you mourn 00:17:17 - great question maya 00:18:19 - whats going on in mayas world 00:20:42 - zocdoc 00:21:58 - girliepopenation 00:23:20 - the boys are drowning today 00:25:28 - qts mom lore 00:27:56 - hickey tests 00:29:24 - joe johnson went to another school 00:33:00 - maya has been to 3x more proms than austin 00:36:27 - guys where the hell do I put the ad 00:40:36 - everyone loves selina gomez 00:41:11 - seatgeek 00:42:11 - quick rundown of selina and haley 00:43:44 - lana del rey lore 00:46:17 - wrestlemania 00:48:04 - that was kind of weird that you said that 00:49:05 - can hasan clutch up a 1v2 00:50:52 - the upcoming ring boy 00:52:43 - wait pause 00:53:09 - we spa 00:55:00 - the nightly routine 00:57:03 - these questions are getting out of hand (this was a 10/10 joke) 00:59:24 - for 5 years?! 01:01:20 - hot moment of the week 01:04:22 - he did not care about those dresses at all 01:08:25 - what is your honest opinion qt 01:10:20 - you know what my friend sir #hasanabi #qtcinderella #podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oh my god. Dude, start recording, I think. Yeah. This fucking guy, dude. Okay. You're not eating anything. Falling. It's fine. It's just a poke bowl. I want to be eating. All right. It's too late. All right. Here we go. Cutie does not care about these things. You know what I mean? This is your consummate professional. Are we starting? I don't care about these things. Are we live? You I care. Why not? We're not. Why not? Are we starting? I don't care about these things. Are we live? I care, whine about it. Whine about it before we start. I hope you know we slap our faces.

At least you don't look wet today. I haven't looked wet in months. That's true. Okay, maybe we won't officially start yet. Wait, why? What? No, it's like, we already start. Are you eating?

She's literally eating away from the camera. Marshall is actually starting? Are we? Yes, we've already started. No, no, no, we're not. No, I need to. No, no, no. We needed. We always need to do a good, good, good.

Autistic. I am. Oh, I know that. What do you mean? What do you mean to have order decorum? You literally are sitting in Will's chair and you had to do a five minute. Like, I need to make sure that I look good from this angle moment. Well, it turns out it's a little rough and I may need to kick my out of her seat.

Yeah, now you're complaining. I wanted that seat. Do you want to switch? Okay, all right. Now you're complaining that you haven't done the ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that's right. Welcome back to the Fear and Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the fear and podcast where we are yet again

Elevating and it's not good. It's vegan, huh? Oh It's not oh Jesus, it's not good. Yeah What is that what a waste of calories that is so bad Oh waste of calories. That is so bad. Oh, what you guys don't like it. I'm sure. I hate the lemon. Something's wrong with it. I think it's okay. It's okay, but it's not worth the calories. Austin and I have eating disorders, but we talk about them casually. So it's not exactly. And we joke about it. So it's not so it's not serious. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies

and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the fear and podcast where we are yet again, elevating, encouraging, and empowering women. We found this woman from Texas and her name is Maya Higa and she is here with us and we are so excited welcome to the podcast Maya Hello Maya, how are you? I'm really really excited and very very lucky to be here. I've been wanting to do this for a really long time Thank you so much. I just haven't had the chance in the past three years. Yes. Here I am I've been petitioning against yeah, I am coming on the podcast because Because she is my enemy why is she your enemy Petitioning against yeah, I am coming on the podcast because she's so annoyed that I haven't been on this podcast a minute

Because she is my enemy. Why is she your enemy? Dynamic you should know about Hassan is like ridiculously in love with me on this podcast. It's weird. It's a will-day won't they? Yeah, okay It's pretty basic stuff I'm in love with him and he would know about it. You would know about it if you watched our podcast, but you don't because you steal her from us. I actually, I think it's the opposite. Cause mine about it was well before Fearend. Yeah, but nobody, no, it's like. Don't say was it.

Yeah, but it's kind of like BC, nobody remembers it. How many years? Yeah, Fearend is Christ. It's like the Old Testament, nobody listens to that. I think we're on. Yeah, we are that. I think we're on three years more. You've been doing it for longer than three years? Yeah. God, we're old.

We had Fearand malding before. Yeah, but nobody remembers that either. No one remembers it. Everybody remembers, Fearand started with when we took off the malding and we, and Cutie and I joined. It was pretty fine before I was though. QT was asked to join and we invited myself.

I think we had better ratings. They might have had better ratings. Before I joined. I went to the craft market today, I got you all presents. Oh my God, that's so sweet of you. Presents! No. You want to just, bit?

I got Austin this magnet. Oh my god. I love being gay look That's so cute. It's a heart and he'll leave it here, and he won't take it. You're so wrong about that I'm gonna put in my pocket, and I got this for Hassan. It says no fascism. Oh my god It's so sweet. He doesn't like fascism. This is actually really cute. I love this. Correct. Where do I put this? On your fridge. Okay.

And then, Maya, I got you a cup of man tears. Yay, whine about it. That's so sweet. Cute, I love it. And then, Marsh, I got you a heart that says slut, but with the Shrek logo. Oh. That's perfect for him.

I just thought you would like it. That's so sweet. Well, that's so thoughtful of you. All handmade by local artists. That's so amazing. Thank you. Yeah, so you could say I'm thoughtful. You're so thoughtful. Is this because you're 45 minutes late to the podcast

that you, on the way over, were like, I should probably... Crazy, because yesterday. Yeah. What time is the podcast tomorrow? I said six 37 ish. And then Austin today is bored clearly. And he's like, can we start at six? And then you're like, yeah, six.

I'm sorry, I live in LA. It's not coming. It's not happening. 30 minutes before six o'clock. I said six. I said six or six 30. Yeah, which is crazy. I kind of sneakily.

He snuckily moved up. If you wanted it at six yesterday, you should have said something or six thirty. Yeah, which is crazy. I kind of If you wanted it six yesterday should have said something yesterday bozo. Yeah, I didn't see the conversations He doesn't need you were okay. You involved and I don't see why I care. Yeah, why are you here at seven? You're not even here at six. I said six thirty seven. I pulled up at six forty five. That's right in between She's kind of early to be honest actually like Maybe we should do this every week about the time. Yeah. Well, yes. Yeah That's literally what she does Reply to lie about the time right right? That's not the culver here. No, I don't lie Oh, no, I'm saying you lie all the time. No one replies to you most of the time. Oh yeah, nobody is so true.

Should we address the elephant in the room? What's that? Will Neff hates me. Okay. Yeah. And why is that? Why is me here? Well, Will Neff decided he would go to New York selfishly

and miss our podcast. And also he doesn't like you, he told us. Yeah. I stand by him. I wish in solidarity that I didn't show up to this. He, yeah, well we can't, and we're like a broken family. We cannot keep it together. Well, I used all of my PTO,

and now everyone wants to use their PTO. Yeah, I have PTO. Okay, so I didn't. There's no garbage can, he just threw it on the ground. I live here. This is my home. I'll be honest, I threw it in the direction of where a garbage can should be.

That's crazy. Who should buy a garbage can? I don't know. Kaya, get out of there, not getting the Rice Krispie Treats. Y'all are, see you do it. You're gonna kill my dog. You derailed the conversation.

I was just trying to. I derailed it. I was in the middle of talking. Yeah, and then you. I'll pick it up. I'll pick it up. You chose the throat, you chose a discarded plastic. I'll pick it up, I'll pick it up.

He's not gonna pick it up. He's not gonna pick it up. All right, so. I'm gonna pick it up. I missed the podcast last week because I did something that's very embarrassing. I missed a flight. Embarrassing. Should we talk about, you know, I haven't really watched the air and, but I do hear that you guys talk a lot about airport drama. Should we get into it? Wait. Yeah. Do you have airport drama? I think she's fucking around. I think she's like egging you on. Cause cutie

calls her after the podcast to complain about what we talked about. They're like, oh my God, Austin came up with another airplane story. I've never complained about that. The people are saying that. The people are saying all they talk about is self sucking and Austin's airport drama. Yeah. And y'all keep fucking showing up every week. Yeah.

Okay. Well, I have something to tell you guys. All right. Well, fuck it. I got my first ever facial. Oh, that's right. I got a facial. Sexually?

Yeah. Yeah. Someone nutted on my face. How was it? It was awesome. See, I knew you'd come around. I've had this cystic acne on the side of my cheek for quite a while. I told you it was cancer.

That thing on your arm, that weird thing on your arm, remember? Yeah, it's still there. Yeah, go somewhere. You have cancer. You have cancer. Yeah, you gotta get that looked at. That's cancer. Yeah, you got to get that looked at that's cancer You it's probably it's probably in your pancreas. It's not normal I mean, I feel like my gains have been pretty good

So if I was still gain muscle with cancer if I was cancerous Wait, sorry Maya just licked her. No. I just licked the mic. He's on the podcast. She's always on the podcast This is not new. She's not the podcast. She's always on the podcast. This is not new. She's not here just because you're here. Also, anyway. You have like a problem with me or something. Don't you like, are you like jealous? I am not jealous.

I'm not jealous that QT likes to spend time with you. And when I ask her to spend time with me, she doesn't respond. It's giving me. I said I would go to KBBQ with you tonight. Yeah, she did say that. Only because Maya's here. No, she would probably go if I wasn't here.

The problem I had, the reason I hesitated is last time after this podcast, Fear and Me, Austin and Will went to KBBQ, my uncle died. Well, no, it was Japanese barbecue. Okay, but your uncle can't die twice. He's dead already. I have so many uncles. Yeah, she's got other people in her life, Hasan. You're right. What if someone dies?

I don't think it's correlated. I'm gonna have to stop going to KBBQ. I'm gonna be honest. Yeah. If, if, okay, it's a test. This is important to do. We go to Korea barbecue and if another immediate family member dies of yours, then at that point, well, I guess we'd have to close the podcast now because your ass would not be here. Yeah. Just stop going. You're like a Victorian era lord, where you're like, oh, I'm mourning the immediate family member.

I was mourning, it was appropriate. I've gone on a walkabout. He was supposed to help me fly. That was my pilot freaking uncle. Oh, that's true. That was fucked up with him. Oh, so you're never flying. Oh, we're cooked.

Because then the only way we were going to Japan is if he was flying. But him. Oh, so you're never flying. Yeah. Oh, we're cooked. Because the only way we were going to Japan is if he was flying. But he didn't die because of a flight accident. No. What was it, cancer? No, a heart attack. Yeah, it's a heart attack. I don't know, I wasn't there at Korean barbecue.

It was sudden. I tried to save your uncle by not showing up at Korean barbecue. And he died anyway. It was a sudden thing. It was sudden, but it was right after it happened. I didn't know how to handle it. The situation was just Austin was the biggest victim. No, no, no, no.

It was like it really ruined my vibe. No, no, no, no, no. It was fine. Did I pay for my food? No, that would have been awesome. Are you mad? Do I need to pay you back? No, you don't need to pay me back.

Austin sent you a Venmo request like, hey, by the way. No, no, no. No, but it was like, we, I was like, hey, kitty, like, you can leave. Because you would just leave. I walked outside and took the phone call. She finished the dinner. I was hungry. She finished the dinner.

Well, you ate it. Well, yeah, I mean, I didn't know what to do. What do you do? So now, what am I going to eat if somebody dies? So I start crying now. I didn't cry. I was just in shock. I was like, that's crazy I just kept saying that's crazy. Yeah, and we're just like, you know, you want more fried rice?

It was just it was you want more fried rice. Yeah It's always will wills like wills like give me a ride home and I'm like, okay And then on the ride home wills like tell me about him. I'm like well That's so I'm like, I need to open up. I can't. You can open up to me. He wanted me to.

Yeah. Will wanted me to open up. I was not ready to open up. I feel like you're also not a good more. RP console Austin right now. There's 0% chance. How old was your relative that died? 80.

Okay. You live the fucking long ass life, dude. You know what I mean? It's the best you got. Hey, come on. 80. OK, he lived a fucking long ass life, dude. You know what I mean? It's the best you got? Come on, 80. I get it. At that point, it's like you're expecting it to happen. No, yeah.

His life was probably, you know, not as good as it once was. No, it was like a buck some 60. It was a really good life. Well, that means he lived a great life. He did. He got a long life. That's like what everybody was. He was murdered. He was. Well, at that point, it's like, can you even call it murder?

He was murdered by what? He's crying. I know. He was murdered by what? But you push down the stairs like what killed him? Oh my God. I'm not really good at this. Light breeze.

I'm not a good mourner either. I get very awkward. Like when your relative passed tragically. Arby mourning? Yeah, no, no, no. You're, well, I'm what I did. Reverse the world. I'm with Cutie, I would check in on you.

Yeah, you check on me. Who died? My grandmother. Alzheimer's. Oh, well. It was really, it was really grim. Well, I mean, come on, Alzheimer's, she's been gone for a long time.

Well, that's really crazy. I had a relative. She had her moments. No, but I had a relative with Alzheimer's. She had her moments where she would remember me and my family members. This is why men commit more murders. Look, I do. I'm so sorry for your loss.

Did you kill her? No, I'm so sorry for your loss and it must be so hard to deal with that. You sound so disingenuous. Well look, I- She hated gay people. This is- He turns on Feather by Sabrina Carmen. Look, I-

So sorry for your loss. I got this, let me start over. Hassan, I heard about your loss and I just wanna say I'm here for you. If you need anything and take his- What are you doing with your hand? I'm on the phone. We're anything and what is the take is I'm on the phone you're next to one I know oh sorry why are you um I thought I'd be calling you I don't know why and if you need anything I'll be here and take as

much time as you need but not too much because we do need you on the podcast uh-huh you're out of PTO I'm going on an 11 month vacation. Yeah. I'm gone for 11 weeks, okay? I'm gonna, yeah, like you, that's old school though. Like mourning for 11 weeks. Yeah, I wore only black. And traveling in that process is like very Victorian. Yeah. I am Victorian.

I can't see the sun, I get burned. That's just a vampire, I think. Oh. You're mistaking. You have a problem with how she mourns her uncle? What? You think I was going to back away from that? Drama!

By week three I was like, bitch, get the fuck back here right now. That's crazy. That's what I was calling like this. What the fuck do you think you're doing? That's really mean. He said you don't even know his middle name, and I was like, whoa! Yeah, I did. You have 30 have 30 uncles is like give or take What do you say that for real? No?

No, no, they actually I was I don't think one of them pressured me to come back once I was like actually like I was really surprised. We did She didn't get it clearly Yeah, no she she totally, now I'm beginning to realize that we were too polite. Maybe I should have done. Maybe I should have done, we flew to you. Right, I remember.

You guys should have stayed longer. Yeah, we flew to you and did a episode in the park. Maya came from a week. Hi, dad. I would have stayed longer, he just didn't wanna stay longer. Yeah, it wasn't, that's not't want to stay longer. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't. That's not happening.

It was good. It was fun. We know you liked it. Your ass fucking plant. You settled there. I did. Yeah. I'm buying a cab. I feel like the Airbnb owner was trying to kick you out by the end of the process.

You're like, this is supposed to be short term, short term rentals. What do you not understand? They loved me. They were like like move in. By the 11th week, it's like, what are you owning the place? Yeah, I was out there landscaping. I feel like that episode was the forgotten episode. Why?

Because like I just when you came back when you came back here, that's when Cutie was back, even though you literally were there for an episode. But it's like that was the forgotten episode of Fear and. You did have different vibes when you were there. Maya, did you feel like she had different vibes when she was in Salt Lake? Yeah, I think she was happy Okay, don't I know but like you guys make her depressed Maybe it's the weekly wine about it's that make her depressed if you thought about that Is this what you guys do on your fucking yeah, yeah, I stop listening I don't know I don't

How was the episode last week? What? Of Ferriand. What? Oh, it was pretty good, Austin. I was nervous you were gonna feel self-conscious. Really? You didn't watch the episode you were on?

It was a banger. No, I didn't watch it. Who was it? No. It was just funny, it was just kicks and gigs. Most of the episode. Well, I probably would've dragged the energy. How does that make you feel, Austin? I probably would've dragged the energy. Yeah, I'm also like, oh, yeah. It's funny. It was just, it was just, it was just kicks and gigs. Most of the episode. Well, I probably would have dragged the energy. I probably would have dragged the energy. It's okay. I'm always depressing and just like, look at me right now. I'm sucking the

energy out of the room. What is happening? It's not just scrolling. No, I'm looking at the episode. I'm looking at if it did well. I mean, it did well. It did fine. Didn't do as good as the one we were all together, but you know, that's all right. Who's counting? It seems like counting? Pretty good. Wait, let me see. So what's this podcast about? What's the tagline? We don't have any topics. Uh, uh, our, our, our viewers, uh, hating women like, yeah, real problem. Yeah. Yeah. I have, I let them, this is what I do every week. I show up, I let them talk just aimlessly for 45 minutes. And then I usually say, okay, girly pop nation time.

And then we have a topic, but I let them like, you can't like let them in on it. Otherwise they feel controlled. So you just kind of have to let them kind of like do their work out their energy. Yeah. If they don't work out their energy first, then they won't listen to girly pop nation. That's not true. Go ahead. I'll be honest.

I would listen to girly-pop nation. That's not true. Okay, go ahead. I'll be honest, I would listen to it regardless. Austin is a suck up. Yeah, I am. He's phony. At least I lay my cards on the table. Thank you, thank you. Wow, three, two women and one gay man. Three of you. Yeah, he's trying to be a woman.

Sometimes he tries to switch. That's true. I do try to be a woman. Sometimes he tries to switch. I do try to be a woman. Maya, what's going on in your world? That's what Will would say. Oh, you're so right. This is what I would say, Maya, what's going on in your world? You know, the huge animal stuff, conservation stuff, wine about it, Texas. Yeah. Are you going to get out of there? Texas? She has the fucking sanctuary there. No? Yeah, I can't go anywhere. Oh fuck

I'm stuck there. What do you want to move it? You got plot? What do you got a plot in like San Diego? Yeah, I can't afford that the sanctuary can't afford that Yeah, by our sanctuary. Yeah fucking by me like that San Diego. You do. I don't have money like what about the old LA Zoo? That's just a weird park now. You could buy it. Yeah Selling it. I don't know Why did you suggest because one time I drove past it and said old LA Zoo and I was like, oh my gosh And they have a little caves and stuff for sale. No, it's just a park now, but I feel like it's a public park Yeah, but like, you know politics you could call someone. Yeah

Gavin Newsom real quick the governor. Can you buy it for me? Yeah. Yeah, I don't have money like that. These are actually so cute. We should always keep these on the mic. Yeah, I know. I like them. I'm gonna keep it right here.

Well, that's gonna be will see. Yeah, there we go. Austin, we know that you are not gonna take it with you anyway. Like you, we, it's, after you leave, we talk about how you leave your shit. We get what Will didn't take with him. I don't know why well didn't take that

Yeah Good will that's nice What the mics mites mites like dust mites they all are in your house now Dust my I'm sorry. I shop at Goodwill. Mm-hmm. You poor shaming me? Some of us can't afford to shop. I love Goodwill. I got this jacket at Goodwill. Nice. Thank you. It looks great. Maya's in town because we're bulk recording some wine about it episodes.

Not with me! We literally just invited you. Did I get invited too? I invited myself and Austin is still inviting us all and he is not getting invited. Am I invited? Do you want an episode? Oh my God. I mean, I do have to, I do.

I don't know when you want to fly in. I'm here all week. You're harder to invite. I'm here all week. Oh, you really are? Yeah, now you're really stuck in a corner right now. I know. Thursday.

Thursday, I am hosting something on Thursday, but I could be free depending on the time. Let's work it out. Okay. We can work together on the time. Excellent. Yeah, okay. Yeah great And Hassan you want to do it? Maybe Doctor doctor give me the news. I got a bad case of loving you except I

Don't got a bad case of that But Hassan has a sinus infection and he doesn't know where to find a doctor. Where will I find a doctor, Austin? ZocDoc. ZocDoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high quality in-network doctors and click instantly to book an appointment. Now Cutie, you ever go to the doctor?

I was thinking Hassan should go to the ugly doctor. That's true. And you gotta hope that he's not out of network. Yeah. Cause that sucks. Sometimes he goes visit the ugly doctor. Hassan, you should go to the ugly doctor, but you should find it in network on ZocDoc.

And you gotta use it. You gotta use ZocDoc. All right. So folks, stop putting up those doctors appointments and go to Zoc Doc Doc Zoc Doc dot com slash fear to find an instantly book a top rated doctor today. That's Z O C D O C dot com slash fear. Zoc Doc dot com slash fear. Production note play. Bad case of loving you. Asan, what are you going to talk about on wine about it? Girlie pop nation shit.

What do you mean? Say something, girly pop nation. Um, OK. It's not girly pop nation no longer. It's girly pope nation. The girlies are actually taking great consideration into the conclave after Pope Francis passed away in an unfortunate and untimely meeting with JD Vance, the vice president. All the girls are going crazy for Pope Tagley. He's from the Philippines. Pinoy gang, Swag

of Pinos rise up. Yep. What do you mean? There's a lot of drama. There's a lot of drama. Do you know what the conclave is? There's so much drama. It's like different giving. Yeah. What do you mean? There's a lot of drama. There's a lot of drama. Do you know what the conclave is? It's just so much drama. It's like different. You don't get it. Yeah, it's like we like. Yeah, we we do like. But like we don't. OK, let me try.

You know what I'm saying? Like like it's when people say like, oh, the Kardashians are girly pop nation. No, they're not. No, no, I got one. I'm going to get one. Hold on. And last, but you know what is girly pop nation. When you talk about the Kardashians is a subsect about how Travis Barker used to have a massive crush on, did you know this? Travis Barker used to have a disgusting massive crush on Kim Kardashian in his book. He even talked

about like checking out Kim, how hot she is, and now he's married and has a baby with Courtney. I just Courtney. That's girly combination shit. But otherwise like Kardashians in general, that's normie shit. Girly population. What's going on with Justin Bieber? Justin Bieber actually broke ties off with the previous, the previous clothing brand he had called Drew,

which is named after Justin, co-founded by Justin's friend, Ryan Good. See, this one's kind of sad because Justin's going through a lot right now. He's going through a lot, but that's kind of like a weird thing to bring up. It's something girly pop and shit. It's too depressing. Yeah, it's kind of a weird thing to bring up.

OK, well, the girly pop actual drama side of it is like that Ryan Good actually came out and was like, it's probably because I left the church that he was a part of because it was getting too culty. That's the new meta. That's the new thing that came out in the story. What are we talking about? No one cares I'm trying my best. Okay. I'm gonna get another one Austin you go. Come on Talk about Frankie Valley in the four seasons. He has nothing he has no motion on the girly pop side in the four seasons. He has nothing. He has no motion on the girly pop side. You're a shame to the gay men all around the planet. He really thinks I don't know anything about

girly. He's still brain. Find something girly pop nation. Nation of girlies that pop. Let me tell you something girly pop nation I would I just you know what I don't know anything I Don't know anything. I really just didn't brain dead. I am probably one of the dumbest people I know what is happening Listen, it's not I was talking to somebody that I know today that you guys know who I'm talking about. He was driving me to the airport. And...

Jesus Christ. Anyway. Who could it be? And I was like, I was like thinking about it. He's like, you should go on Hassan's stream this week. I was like, yeah, you know what I should. I was like, but sometimes I feel like I'm in over my head. And I was like, wait a second.

You know why I feel like I'm in over my head and I was like, wait a second You know why I feel like I'm in over my head is because he's the son of two PhDs. Yeah, that's crazy. My dad's a pothead. Yeah, my mom's dead. Yeah You know what I mean? She could have had a PhD and then died I don't know. She couldn't she didn't she didn't want to. Yeah, she was too busy Yeah, she was being a little ho most the time. Wait, what? That's crazy. Wait, your mom was a Yeah, you'd be a little ho most the time Wait, your mom was a hoe Yeah, I didn't know until after she was talking. Wait, did all her exes show up did all her So my parents get divorced right? I'm sure it's a girl Yeah, and my parents get divorced and all sudden my mom just starts all there's all these boyfriends

I'm like, okay sleigh queen and I'm like eight just starts all there's all these boyfriends. I'm like, okay, Sly Queen. And I'm like eight. And there's this one that always called me sunshine. I did not like it. I was like, no. And then the other one was my brother's basketball coach, which was a little drama.

And it was also crazy because my grandpa was a little racist and she was, as soon as she broke up with my dad, she was only dating black men. And my grandpa was a little racist and she was as soon as she broke up with my dad She was only dating black men and and my grandpa was like not happy not happy How old is your grandpa dead too? No, but he's like in then he's like 90 something. So he like He's happy. Oh, you guys are terrible at talking about death. Well, yeah, I just called him race. I got one What the freak I'm over here opening up. Yeah, let her. About my childhood. You're talking about how your mom is a hoe.

That's incredibly insensitive. Yes, incredibly. She was she's a dead. Oh, OK. I've show some respect. A little ho she didn't have time for a PhD. Yeah. OK. If you can be a little hoe and your PhD kudos, but it's really difficult. Yeah. So so she said she has all the boyfriends, right? And I specifically remember one time I'm in the car

and she's in the front seat and she's on the phone and she doesn't know that I understand what she's saying. And she's talking about giving a guy a hickey on his inner thigh. You've talked about that before on the pod. That's why I knew that you're not on the pod. Yeah, she's talking about it. Anyway, we get back and I distinctly remember

we get to the house and my grandpa's there because they're like visiting and she we're going to my brother's basketball game that night and that's the other boyfriend. She's got two boyfriends at this time. Wow. Yeah. Good for the basketball game and we're at the basketball game. My grandpa's there. She goes up and like talking to her guy, you know, like hugging kissing whatever being

a little ho and then my, we get in the car afterwards and he's so mad. Was this, was this gentle, was it because your grandfather was racist? Yeah. Okay, so this was an African American gentleman. Yeah. Okay. And so what, is this the gentleman

that she gave a hickey to on the thigh? I don't know. Okay. I don't know who she gave a hickey to. I would never, respectfully, I would never give a man a hickey on their thigh. I don't know. Okay. I don't know. I would never, respectfully, I would never give a man a hickey on their thigh. I would. Well, why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? I wouldn't like that. I actually don't know if I've ever given a hickey. I feel like the dangling would just be on your forehead. Yeah, perfect. I don't think I've ever given a hickey actually. Oh my god. I have when I was younger. In high school I was a little hickey hoe. Oh wow. I was so weird. You got hickeys or you gave him? No, I gave him.

I've never given up. I loved giving hickeys like a little vampire. It's nasty. Yeah. Cause then I figured out later that it's like you're, when you give a hickey, you're actually sucking up blood. Bursting blood vessels. Yeah.

And when I learned that I was, it's so gross. Yeah. You have to suck really hard. Well, and I was, I was dating this guy and I don't know what it was, but he would get these massive, it was like, they were like, it looked disgusting.

It looked like a tumor almost. It was like- I think you did it too hard. I think I did too. He'd get these massive bumps. Oh my God. And then people would be like, what is that? And he'd be like, oh, I got hit by a lacrosse ball.

Did you guys ever try to fix hickeys with quarters? Is that a real thing? A frozen spoon? No, I would use a quarter and you like scrape the shit out of it. Oh, I remember that, yeah. Yeah, cause it is like moves around the blood or something. We should do a test where we, that's a good YouTube video. Hickey test. Yes. Hickeys and then all the different ways to get rid of them.

Who's gonna give who a hickey? We'll find. Don't be so excited. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. Sorry. You were kind of wondering. I have a, well. We're kind of wondering. I have a girl.

I have a girly pop nation story that actually is more fun. I have a girl. That's about you. We're having so much fun over here. Yes. Selena Gomez. He loves me. Selena Gomez took prom photos of Benny Blanco.

Yeah, former child star never got to go to her own. And I feel like this is very relevant to cutie Cinderella because even though she was invited to prom when she was a child, everybody always made fun of her and she didn't get to have the best experience. Wait, okay. Number one, I wasn't invited to prom. Did you also not go to prom?

I went with the cardboard cut out of Justin Bieber. It was awesome. We took him to Tempaniaki and everything. I mean, we isn't like you and your friends or you and your family. My friends, I got him a corsage. It was he looked great. So is it because you didn't have him a boutonniere? You didn't have a date?

No, long story short, I had a date that was a friend of a friend. I didn't have anyone in my school to go with. She's coming up with a lie. I like that you're lying. He doesn't go here. He's in Canada. His name was Joe.

I remember his name was Joe. You couldn't find a less generic, made up name? John, Joe Johnson. And he went to another school. He actually did. He actually did go to another school. In Canada? No, in Washington. Basically Canada. He went to another school in Canada. No, in Washington,

basically Canada. He went to another school and he was like a friend of a friend. I didn't have anyone to go with genuinely. Um, it was, I'm shocked. It was, it was boys choice crap. I was going to say it was a girl's choice. It was boys choice. Don't ask me. I asked, I asked, well, a friend of a friend was like, Joe wants to come. He goes to a different school. They don't have prom at his school. He wants to come to our prom. Can he go with you and I was like Yeah, Joe shit is that I don't know even and then super Mormon. He didn't have prom at all. No, he wasn't Mormon He was cool. He was like a cool kid He was like cool Yeah, everybody wanted six seven

Yeah, you need to moderate the lie to make him believe it. I was starting to believe it. He had work so he couldn't show up until like 8 p.m. And so I had... 8 p.m. Yeah, so I had to do kickball without him. I had to do the dinner. Wait, why does prom start so late?

Why does there kickball at prom? You guys don't do day activities? I've never had prom. No. I never... I had a prom at my high school. Wait, so you brought this up because you're sad about your prom. You guys don't do day activities? I've never had prom. I never, I had a prom at my high school. Wait, so you brought this up because you're sad about your prom. I do, I'm a grub and turkey, we don't have prom. I just- When was there a kickball at prom? You don't do day activities at prom? When do you get ready? We do, we wake up in the morning and we do our day activities. Sometimes we do paintball, sometimes we do kickball, sometimes you do ice skating. Paintball? Yeah, I did paintball before Homecoming. What? I think they just didn't want them to fuck. That's why. Yeah, I think so. But before the dance?

Yeah, we do. Who fucks before the dance? It's called the day activity. No, I'm saying like if they get them all tired and who fucks before the dance? Yeah, they get them all tired before the dance and they have to go to sleep at a reasonable hour. So they can't fuck. I'm only fucking after the dance.

Everyone's only fucking after the dance. No, I understand that. My point is they were probably trying to get them tired. So they go to sleep Well, everybody has their own you're in charge of your own day activity. It's not like Lame-ass shit. Yeah, what no everybody did it? Everybody did it if you don't do a day activity or weird. I never went to prom cuz I didn't have a date No, it's a straight prom I never went to prom because I didn't have a date. You two can go to prom. You can go take pictures at the JC Penney. You want to go to gay prom? No, it's a straight prom.

It's just normal prom. Gay guys can go to normal prom. That's true. Also, you weren't gay back then. I know. You were gay. I was in the closet. You weren't outwardly gay.

I was hitting on this girl that I thought I had a crush on, but she had a boyfriend. Oh. Yeah. It was very sad. Her boyfriend was really jealous and then banned her from talking to me. Little did he know. That's like, like you were a threat. I was a threat. It was badass. I was like, I would go to, I would go to her soccer games. I went to three proms. She's a little ho. All with the same boy. Yeah. Wait what? I'm not a hoe. Explain how that works. In case she's not a hoe.

What, you guys breaking into other school proms? No, no, no, he was a year older than me. So first year, I went to his prom because I was a sophomore and he was a junior. So I went to his junior prom. The second year, we did senior and junior prom. And then the next year, he came back from college to go to my senior prom.

That is crazy that he came back from college. He's a freshman in college. That would suck He's like in college at that point. Yeah, we were like we were like a year apart Yeah, but when I remember college your brain shift. I remember being a freshman in college and having senior and high school friends And I always felt so old Yeah, I call him to hang out with because I thought I remember when I graduated high school like and I always felt so old. Yeah, I couldn't. Going back home to hang out with them. Because I thought, I remember when I graduated high school, like all my junior friends, I was like, we're going to be friends forever. And then within that summer, I was like, bye. Can I make a confession?

You just grew up. What? Please. I was, you know, those cringe people that go to college and then come back and hang out with the teachers in high school where all the high school kids are still in class, but you're like, cool, because you're in college. I did that with my math teacher because I thought we were friends, but it was the one that was a predator and went, oh.

Oh. Was he cool to you? Do you think he was trying to throw work your way? Yes. Throw work? Okay. He was very, very nice to me. He said that I should be a model.

Oh. And we would- She's five two. And we would go to- Oh, damn. And we would go to lunch together. He would put his bike in the back of my truck and then we would go to lunch together. He would put his bike in the back of my truck and then we would drive to lunch together,

like on school days and go get lunch. And then even after I graduated, I would come back and visit him when I was a freshman in college. And then the allegations came out and then he got fired. And then he hit me up on Facebook Messenger and he was like, will you testify and say that I'm not weird? And I was like, you know what?

No, I won't do that. Because now that I think about it. He was weird, but I did not know at the time Wait, yeah, I mean, that's the whole point of also finger to her prom. Yeah, actually it was my my ex-boyfriend Sorry, wait my ex-boyfriend fingered her crazy on the dance floor Your ex-boyfriend were you currently at the, you were dating her? Welcome to whine about it. Fuck. I was not dating him at the time. Who fingered who, Maya?

After me and boyfriend broke up, there was prom and they're homecoming, prom. I don't remember. Same thing. Why was fingering a big deal? I don't understand. Cause it was on the dance floor and there were teachers lined up on the bleachers

watching everybody dance And he fingered their upper mini dress. Yeah, you had to go up her dress. What did everybody see it? Oh, yeah, I mean, that's how I heard about it I don't know if people saw it. What if they weren't wearing a maxi dress? It's not like they fingered anybody. Maxi dresses are not that hard to do. You'd have to go up It would be the dress. They're grinding. I'm saying they if it was like like a short dress like a short it was a short dress But I know the problem because you got to reach around the do men do that on the dance floor I don't know my ones. I feel like I feel like you could have pulled it off. I feel like

I'm saying he did he did pull it off But like not in a but then everyone called him finger Freddie It's crazy and then you And then you dated him after. No, I dated him before. Really? You guys had bullies. Oh, he made that up. Yeah, she made that up.

His name was Freddy though. Yeah. Called it. I'm lying. Damn. I remember my, so I was the Mormon girl in high school, so no one really wanted to like tell me their sins because I thought I would judge them. And my best friend, I found out she got freaking fingered

and she didn't tell me and it was a big deal when you grew up with your girlfriends and then all of a sudden someone has their first kiss and they have to tell everyone. They're like, you have to say when you got fingered. Anyway, she got fucking fingered by some doofus named Alex or some shit and she shows up to school and I'm outside, school's over,

and other friend comes up to me, she's like, did you hear that so-and-so got fingered? And I was like, are you kidding me? She didn't tell me. Was the other person closer to her than you then? Don't, well that's when you freaking find out. That's when the truth falls, yeah. No, but like was she, or no,

I'm trying to assess how bad the damage is. Is it irreparable? We were three best friends. We were the three best friends. That's always how it is. That's why girls cannot be friends and group three. You can't have three girlfriends. It's a law. I'm learning so much.

What are the other laws around girls? I had one girl best friend in high school and when she got figured, she told me that when she got figured for the first time and how many fingers it was. Wait, wait, you guys knew each other? How many fingers was it? Three. Three?

Yeah, she said it hurt real bad. That's ambitious. I know, she was like it was the first time. Can you even get three fingers in there? Oh, yeah You can get a penis in there. Yeah, that's crazy. You can get a baby in there. Oh, I guess it can't expand a little bit. Also, you can put a penis in there. Do you know how thick three fingers are? It's not like... You can crumple it. Don't think. Do you know the fraudulent nature?

Do you know the fraudulent nature of fizzing? Like everybody says, like everybody thinks this is how you fit someone. But this is actually what you do. You do it. That's so controversial. I never knew one time. One time they tested out their dirty talk voice on this podcast. It was miserable.

Yeah, you were here. Yes, I sat here and they kept saying, do it, Kitty, I wasn't gonna fucking do it. Yeah. And then she did it. I shouldn't do it. She did it. And it was gross.

It was nuts. They were like pumping each other up there like, oh yeah, you said it. You know what it sounded like? You know what it sounded like when Kitty did it? I can stop. I don't. Kitty was like, show me that dick.

Yeah, that's why dirty talk. Yeah, let me munch on that penis. Yeah, that's how she sounds. Show me that day Yeah, that's how she sounds she called him daddy I did it I did it That's the worst ever to call somebody daddy. No you guys practicing your dirty talking podcast It's fine, I think I think it's normal and natural and beautiful. It's fine for Austin. Thank you. That's right. Gay men can dirty talk in front of women. Why is it fine for Austin? Because it's gross when you do it. And it's fine for when you do it. He's gay. Almost. I'm the only one who can't do dirty talk. I'm really upset that you did the fisting thing. I'm never going to forget. That's right. How did you find that out? I, stop!

How did you find that? Were you in the middle and you're like, she's like, no, no, no, no. No, no, I didn't. I didn't. I found that out through a very funny way. No, I found that out through somewhat of a funny way. You know how like they have like dildos? Yes, I know how they have dildos.

They have a fisting dildo and the fisting dildo was like that and I was like, oh So that's how you're supposed to fit. Oh, I've never done it myself. Why are you plugging your ears? It's not like I'm doing it No, I've never I've never You had to do I don't know you had to think about. Now, is this fisting a vagina or a butt? No, not a butt. It's crazy. Really? I feel like it's logistically way harder to fist an asshole.

Yeah. Have you done it? No. Quit looking at me like no. No, I don't think he's done it because he didn't know about the Italian method. Yeah, that's true, that's true, fair. Although, what if he shoved it like that? Nah, you can't put this in a ass, dude.

No way. I mean, there's no way. I've never done that. And now it's everybody's, no, stop, no. What else do you guys wanna talk about? I brought a good, I brought a good girly pop nation story You why do people not like Selena Gomez? Can you give me? I feel like some people hate on her. Like which fandom does not like Selena Gomez. Everyone loves Selena Gomez

The only fandom that doesn't like Selena Gomez are none because Haley Bieber has no fans Thank you, that's what I figure out doesn't like Selena Gomez are none because Hailey Bieber has no fans. Oh, okay. So that, thank you. That's what I was trying to figure out. So it's Hailey Bieber fans that don't exist. No, I mean, there's some like weird Justin. Like I, if you're still, if you still have Bieber fever, like genuinely go to the hospital.

I don't know what's going on. You should have grown out of that. He has a child. He has a child. Like he's got a chill. Yeah, he's got a wife. Hey Will, I'm kind of a nerd and I also want to go see the game.

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I'll cover that at some point together. But the thing is, is genuinely, I think Haley was just a fan girl as one is. And then she ended. It's like, if I ended up with Orlando bloom, like that'd be crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like that'd be crazy, but she ended it's like if I ended up with Orlando Bloom, like that'd be crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like that'd be crazy. But she did it. She did that shit. And it's simultaneously impressive as it is. It is a little insane, but it's very impressive. But the like she has done herself no favors with some of the choices she's made along the way that have given people the idea that she's like, obsessed with Selena. She's done some questionable things and said some questionable things.

That is leads to why a lot of Selena fans are like, I hate Haley, but I, I personally do not believe and I could be wrong that Selena has ever said, fuck Haley, let's dunk on her. She's like, she has a song where she kind of like alludes to Haley being a dickwad, but like, Selena's never like put- You're showing me- She never said it's about Haley Bieber. Yeah, exactly.

And she's never like put fuel on the fire in a direct the way, like in a confirmed way, essentially compared to Haley has done some pretty confirmed stuff to Selena. Okay. It seems like you're a little bit like exhibiting fan behavior. So I don't know if you're being an honest broker here, but it's okay. Moving on. I'm being honest. Gigi Hadid sparks buzz with gold ring and Bradley Cooper at 30th birthday. Girlie pops is Gigi Hadid. We don't care about Gigi.

Okay, why elaborate? Girls, we just don't. It does nothing. It's just it's sometimes you make it in or you don't. I got one. I got one. I got one. This is a good one. Okay. Are you reading like the tablets? No, no, no. I know stop. I just downloaded this information in my mind. You honestly have girly pups so bad. Lana Del Rey confesses a regretful kiss with... I kissed Morgan Wallen. Yeah. Wait, you kissed him too?

I kissed Morgan Wallen because I drove around with him in an ATV. Wait, wait, you serious? Yes. Wait, you kissed Morgan Wallen? No, Austin. No, this is the point. This is what Lana Del Rey did.

How would I have kissed Morgan Wallen? But Lana Del Rey, I feel like... You're both from Texas. Lana Del Rey has dated some friends of the show in the past and also some enemies of the show String of boyfriend so it's like not that Shocking that Morgan Wallen would be literally on that list that people that she'd be into she dated a straight-up cop at some point She dated I did a cop she really no

I did a cop. Really? No. She just wanted attention. Damn it! I'm excited. Wait, do you lie for attention? Sometimes. So do you. No, I don't. I never lie.

Friend of the show, Jack Donahue, she dated and he's like kind of rugged as well. And then she like dated a straight up like gator wrestler or some shit that lives in Louisiana. She's still with him. She's with the gator. But then she kissed Morgan Wall and when did this happen? Oh, I don't know. She regrets it though. Yeah. I would regret it too. If I kiss Morgan wall and he wouldn't kiss me though. I feel like he would first of all, I think most country stars are gay.

Really? Yeah. Elaborate on that. Why do you think they're gay? What do you mean? All of this? I think a lot of country star, a lot of country musicians in general, one band kids. So already like sexually fluid when you're a band kid. On top of that, you're from Nashville, Tennessee, one of the gayest places in the South. Yes. On top of that, there's this like hyper machismo that you put on when you feel like you aren't comfortable with yourself and you present yourself as this like beacon of masculinity, even though you can be gay and masculine at the same time. Also very, very tight pants.

That too. Even though it's now become full circle. Now the gays are not doing that, but they're like, they're a little out of touch. You guys like WrestleMania? I somewhat. So I didn't think I'd like wrestling because I'm like, that's fake. But I went, well, okay. You know what I mean?

If you know, you know. So I go. I think everyone knows. I don't know. So anyway, so I go to WrestleMania and I'm like this is gonna suck. It's all choreographed. Yeah It's like a couple years ago at the LA at the LA Whatever the center is this Staples Center? And I go and I'm like this sucks and then by like the third or fourth fight

I'm fucking chugging like a 30 ounce beer and why aren't we chugging 30 ounce beer right now? I don't know We should get drunk You guys only do podcasts in a beard. No, no, we never have wine ever Oh really tea like that's a lie tea. Tell me about that. I feel like you're lying Is this exposed like do people know this? this? No, we drink grape juice every episode. Wait, do people know people don't know that? No, no, don't drink. Do you feel like that's affecting your brand? No, no. I think the biggest thing that's impacted our brand is doing our episodes online. Okay. Remotely. But we are, we do have a drunk episode

or we have cocktails for one episode. Okay We're gonna do cocktails with me. I Want to do cocktail in a kitten, but we can do cocktails. Okay. What's your favorite cocktail? whiskey gosh Just that's not a cocktail. That's just this what I like Then we can do that. We can just have scotch on the rocks. That's fine No, I like you, but I'll haveotch on the rocks. That's fine. I like it neat, but I'll have it on the rocks Okay I'll drink it neat. It will have it. What does that mean? Cutie's biggest pick-me-moment, but also real is that she likes that shit We've had dinner together, I've just gotten whiskey

I just always thought yeah, so what do you mean if you guys will have it that way that was weird that he said that Yeah, it's weird. I'll have it if you guys want to have it. I Didn't mean anything by it He's basically insinuating that you guys can't tolerate that Most people don't like it your boyfriend literally had to teach himself how to fucking drink whiskey by having a little bit of honey Starting off with like a lot of honey and then drinking He's got no hair on his balls. What do you want to hear from me? All the way until he no longer needed any honey whatsoever. I don't think he ever achieved that

So my assumption is most people I haven't seen him I don't look, I don't make eye contact when I'm down there You just guess the word You should put googly eyes on a ball sack That'd be nice Yeah Just guess the word. You should put googly eyes on a ball sack. That'd be nice. Yeah. You could do that.

Asan, do you think you could take me and QT in a fight? 2v1. Yes. The fuck are you talking about? I think that he could. Do you think you could? Oh yeah. Really?

Oh yeah. 2v1? 2v1? I would probably, you guys would both. I would destroy both of you. Yeah. In fact, I think I could beat you guys easier than half of Hasan.

Like if Hasan was like in a wheelchair, I'd probably have an easier. I'd still swing. I'd have a harder time kicking his ass. I think you guys are really underestimating timing here. Yeah. I think it's important. You also both have penises we can kick.

It's not like we line up and you like knock us out. Yeah, you would have to literally get multiple shots off while I'm sleeping. I'm not worried about it. For that to be even. Cutie would go first, you'd punch her in the face and then you wouldn't see me coming, I would jump on your back and stick my fingers in your eyes.

Okay, Cutie's dead. So now it's a one v one between you and I. My fingers are in your eyes. In your eyes, and while they're see me coming, I would jump on your back and stick my fingers in your eyes. Okay, QT's dead, so now it's a one v one between you and I. My fingers are in your eyes. In your eyes, and while they're in your eyes, I kick you in the balls. I grab you like a bag and slam you on the ground, and then what do you do? You can't see me. You have no eyes.

I don't need to have eyesight to physically grab you while you're on top of me. I would beat both your asses. I'm pretty confident. I'd go like this and I'd break your nose. Yeah. Okay, have you guys? I'd rip this part of you. I'd rip your ear off. Ouch, that would hurt. Yeah. If you started by... Where'd this come from? What? Where'd this come from?

Who would you, are you, I know Creator Class is coming up. Is there anybody that you would like to fight? Lily Pichu? I think it'd be good. I think that's a good matchup. I feel like she beat your ass. I don't know. I think Lily had a hard time watching Michael fight because it was, she was like an empath. Did he lose? So I don't know. No, he won. But she like, she's- Yeah, he was great.

I think she would let you beat her up. Oh, I don't know if I can announce this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Okay. I got asked to be a ring boy at Creative Clash. That's cool. That'll be cute. I'm gonna dress up in a skimpy outfit and walk the ring. I don't know if I'm supposed to announce this,

but I'm gonna do it anyway. Do it. That's sick. It's your body, your choice. Exactly. I don't know what I'm gonna wear yet, but I think I can go shirtless. I'd assume you are shirtless.

I'm assuming you're in like undies. Oh, I need to stuff my pants. Fringe undies. I can't, can't I got a slush chaps I got a I may wear joggers. Oh No, no Disgusting you have to work skimpy ass. No, no, no, you cannot wear fucking joggers, bro What do you like that? That looks like you just were asked last second yeah you have to have like booty shorts you thought you could wear joggers well i'm gonna

have to stuff my pants that's fine where's you can literally buy stuff can i like i just want my i want my like name your price style i I want my margis literally google like men's Stuffed underwear you can buy it okay, and then you just wear that underwear And then you wear your shorts on top of it look like you are bulge look at that wait nice look sweet Everyone's gonna know your fake I don't like the butt. I don't like the butt. If you wore that everyone's going to know you're fake. That's a fake penis. Well what?

As opposed to what? They want me to be hard the whole time? Because that's the only way it's going to look that good. You know what I mean? You could try to be. You could. I could take a pill. That would be crazy.

That'd be weird. We were rocking a whole time. Rock hard. Just fucking standing at attention. You've got a choice. You have to be either... But, oh! You don't want to be naked in front of your friends.

I don't. But you have been naked in front of your friends. I don't like it, but I have. I only get naked in front of my friends if we're having sex. Oh. Okay. Chill! of my friends if we're having sex. Oh. OK. Chill. We're not having sex.

I brought this up because Ludwig is a big fan of Wee Spa. Big fan. What is Wee Spa? It is the spa in LA that when I first was told about it, I said, what? That no, you show up and you Yeah, you get naked and you hang out Well, if you are with men you get naked if you're girls you get naked if you go in the like shared area Then you're in matching clothes that the spa gives you you have to leave your phone somewhere

Because I would be so scared of people. That's crazy. Wait, is this like a street where you can bring your phone to the... In the shared area, but in the sauna, no. Hold on. Oh, so you're not naked? No, you are naked. This is a shared area. This is a shared area, no.

Straight people appropriating gay culture. What? It's a Korean spa. But they do have one that people use for cruising. There's a, like that's one that's especially for cruising. Cruising is like when gay men look to go hook up with other guys. Like my old boss used to go cruising at the park and then one time someone at the freaking park got shot while cruising. Oh my god, what a horrible end. I know. And it was like a cruising park.

Was it like, there was like a guy, like a homophobic guy that was there that just happened to be in the park? I'm not gay! I don't remember the story, but I was... Why is this homosexual sucking my dick? It was crazy. It was so, so the gays were shook. So anyway, so... That used to be legal. Gay panic defense.

Gay panic defense, yeah. You could just kill somebody. Isn't that crazy that used to be legal Gay panic defense. Yeah You could just kill somebody. There's still transparent defense, too. Yep. What? Yeah. Well, yeah, we're like you're not technically legal but you can use that as a viable defense in a court of law to like either lower your charges or or even There's still some downtown's yeah, that's Speaking of sundown towns, I watched Sinners. Oh, it looks so good. Excellent, it was really good. Michael B. Jordan's the boy of the summer, I decided.

People are saying that. He's hot. Yeah, he's the hot. I mean, he's always been hot, but we kind of like forgot about him because we were like. Does he have anything to do with Michael Jordan? No, right? No, they just have the same name.

No. That's something I would say. that's why he threw the be in I Think it's a fair question. I asked I think so. Okay, um, I agree. I agree with you my thank you I'll come to your defense. So we'll go down together He's the worst person but I brought up we spot because I don't think we could ever go to we spoke fuck now Yeah, you guys are naked. No wait, but girls Do that all the time? We've sort no we've never seen like girls do the thing We're like you guys are like even in places in which you don't need to be naked in front of each other girls We'll just like let's get naked together

Watch too many pornos. Yeah, what the fuck that seems? No, I stand by this I know like stuff I I know people are gonna run to my defense in the- Ew! Wait, wait, hold on. What did he say? I didn't hear him. He's talking about the porn that he watches. I hate it.

Oh, let's get naked together. It's normal. Stop, stop, stop. I'm just, he's the one who suggested it. Stop. He has a nightly fap routine. Ew, stop. Are you for real?

He's got a laptop, that's how rich he is. He's got a laptop dedicated to the fap top. It's called the fap top. He puts it on his lap. Like a... No, it's on. No, on my chest. You're not being ashamed of that. It's crazy. You don't look at your own... Hold on. You don't look at your own penis while you're jerking off. I mean, I can still see it. Oh, you're so fucking tall. That's crazy. If the laptop was in front of me, I couldn't be able to do it.

Anyway, sorry. Sorry's crazy. If the laptop is in front of me, I couldn't be able to do it. Anyway, sorry. Sorry, my. So anyway, why do you have to look at your penis? Anyway, when you're jerking off, you don't like to look at your, it's been awesome. Looks in a mirror. I was going to say it's been, it's been 33 years. I've seen it plenty. You know what I mean? I know how to do that shit with my eyes closed. It's fine. I don't know. I just have to look at it anyway. I'll tell you, I'll take it one step further because of my, my because of my pinky I've been using my left hand recently and it's been great It feels like somebody else is doing it not really but it's it's cool. It's different You guys ever put your dick in something interesting. Yes. Yes, like what? Banana

In it in the peel couch About this I've had this is a pocket pussy. Oh, yeah. Master. Sock master. Yeah. It's like a vibrating master 3000. Yeah. That's the name of my address. Yeah.

What else? I have to think about it. I'd like to get back to what I said though, because I do think this is a thing. Women will like they'll go to that. You guys will go to the bathroom together. Bathroom. Yes. Okay. Different though. We don't look at each go to the, you guys will go to the bathroom together. Yes. Okay. You get naked. We don't look at each other. Right. Well, you go to the bathroom together. You also like when you go out shopping, you'll get in the dressing room together and

change in front of each other. Right. I mean if we have to, but you don't get naked when you change clothes. Oh, true. Really? Yeah. You need your bra. You need to give like when you're going to the shower, you go, you get naked at the gym. Are you one of those? Yeah. I don't get naked. Like you just like, do you drop trial? Like around, but like I take my clothes off and put a towel on before I get into the shower. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. You know what? I think it's crazy about Ludwig doing that. Is this a crazy thing to say? If people have, okay, that's so fucked up. That's what I was gonna say.

That's insane and so scary. Was he naked? Yeah. That's so scary. I cannot. I didn't even think about that. That is actually, I have not done this in a while and I probably would now. Now that's gonna be in the back of my mind. I'm sure he didn't think about it though when he first,

probably when he got naked. No. Did he think about it as it was happening? Was he like, oh shit. And he still doesn't care. Was his fan like nice dick? Like what was the composition? No, he was just like, like your videos.

And your penis. He didn't say anything about his penis. I feel like that's gotta be. But one time he was at the Wii Spa and someone talked to him about coming to model. They were like, you need to meet me at this warehouse and model for us tomorrow. Trafficking.

Oh my God. Trafficking at the Wii Spa. Why? He'd be a beautiful model. That's weird. Like a nude model? I don't know what kind. No, they were going to traffic him.

They were not going to try to meet me at a warehouse. He was not actually going to be the cover girl. You don't know. He could have been. I do know. He could have been. No one is picking up Ludwig of all people at the fucking Wii spot. He's a good-looking guy. He is six foot almost You know for the first five years of my sex life. I'd never had sex

Wait wait wait what you should know told them that Maya wait. What are you a never nude like Tobias Finke? Well, so I I dated a guy in high school lost my virginity this guy and I dated him for five years And the whole time when you lost your virginity, what were you wearing? I think pretty much everything Okay, but like I think we just pulled pants down to like knees or something. I mean it's hey 16 bro, like a like a hot situation because it's like in a heat of the moment or no Choice I think you're just like, she's so five years for five. Dude, what the fuck? So he never saw your titties like, no, he did.

Well, no, yeah, he did for sure. Yes. Okay. So like, would you just like, I just mean, we never had sex like completely naked. Like we never like stripped and we're just like, was it always like spontaneous in a car? Like where was it? You guys had like the time to get naked? Yeah? What the fuck honest what me saying this out loud it is weird as hell what I always fully club Yeah, I don't think we just never like shy. Yeah, we just never Decided to like fully take all of our clothes off

Did you like you never broach the subject where you were like hey isn't it kind of? I know cuz neither of us either of us had ever like had sex with anyone else. So we were just like, it is what it is. Sometimes it is hotter, though, to keep an article of clothing on. Yeah, but that's deliberate. That's why I asked. Was it like a hot situation? No, was it like it was sometimes?

I think the underwear on is a good thing. Anyway, sorry, this is gross. Sorry. No, we're talking about having sex. I know, but I felt gross saying that and I'd like to apologize. I don't think it was gross. I'm so sorry.

I think this is a gay positive podcast. You can be truthful. Wow, thank you so much. I don't think it was gross. I like to have sex with underwear on sometimes. That's not gross. Thank you so much. Be true truth. What do you guys think about that?

I think it's fucking gross. She's the one who brushed subject matter. It can't get mad at you. I sent you a TikTok, Marsh. I think it's fucking gross. She's the one who broached subject matter. It can't get mad at you. I sent you a TikTok Marsh. Oh yay. I'm gonna play this TikTok hot moment of the week and I just want to see what you guys think. Okay we're going to get his reaction on some of my sundresses that I got today. Are you excited? Yeah. Oh. I got today. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, open. Oh my god, that looks cute.

Oh, he's gay. Like it? Yeah. Oh, he's gay. Yeah. Wait, I am so mad that you got to that before I did. I know. Y'all I was thinking it. Oh, cute. As it amazeballs. Oh no.

A lot of things. I wonder what. Mmm. Yeah. Sorry. It's got a bit of... This one was the one I wasn't sure about. Oh. That dress is gorgeous.

Love it. Love it. Oh, what do you think that dress is gorgeous? Okay, Anna winter what the fuck Love it this one's a short one. Yeah. Yeah, I Like off-the-shoulder dresses if you can't tell Yeah, yeah if you can't tell. Oh. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. He seems very uninterested too at the same time. I'm confused. Why do you guys think he's gay? Well...

I'm just confused. Well first of all, look I'm just going to say it. The voice. Well what? Are you telling me? Sorry. Thank God he said it because I didn't want to get there first. Yeah, the voice. Well, what are you telling me? Sorry. Thank God he said it. I didn't want to get there. The voice and also like the way he's looking, the way he's looking is very forced

as well. Even the thumbs up. He's like, also a maze balls to describe boobs. That's something I would say. And he's also like he kind of looks disgusted. Yeah. At the same time, like he's like, he's looks disgusted at the same time. He looks so miserable. He's like this. He's like this. I know what I see when I look at this. I see milkmaid. I see titties.

I'm sorry. I'm just telling you what a straight- Do not want to harm his perspective. Marge is laughing because he knows exactly what the fuck I'm talking about like No, my point is like the dress in and of itself like I can't tell if it's like fashionable or not I liked it when she showed the leg as I was like, ooh, that's cool. Like, you know feature of the dress But I don't know anything about like the technical details of it in the way He's analyzing it almost feels like he doesn't like the fucking sundress as a concept at all where he's like This is so blase like this is so oh my god, bitch. You're wearing

2005 summer chic that's what he does. He's giving out that vibe. Oh,. He's not going, oh titties, nice. Okay, without closing that one, because we're gonna go back to that one, open the next one I showed you. This is important because maybe you guys are just, you know, maybe you're just freaking haters. My name's Evelyn. Oh.

And I didn't think that I would be doing this today. Oh no. For those of you who don't know, I posted a video recently with me and my boyfriend and i was trying on sundresses and i was getting his reaction to them um i thought it would be really fun i was feeling super confident in the dresses and i wanted to show them to him and get his reaction i thought it would be funny if we posted a video um but people have opinions and that's okay. You're entitled to your opinion. I welcome your opinions but when it's constant and

You're everyone's just repeating themselves saying that Always knocking it. She's not gonna say closet is glass Boyfriends gay does your boyfriend have a boyfriend like that's just not necessary. And then you go and you say, oh, like your boyfriend's gonna try on your dresses after you're done with them. Or give them up and his dress back.

No, no, pause it, pause it. Like that's not. No, he did not fuck with those dresses at all. Like, no, he was not interested. He was like, oh, the dresses I have are so much nicer than this, is the attitude that he was not interested. He was like, oh the dresses I have are so much nicer than this. Is the attitude that he was giving. The part of this makes me so sad because the closet is glass and he hasn't realized it yet.

You're doubling down. It's crazy. I mean, I like, I didn't say it, he's gay. No, but it's sad that like he can't accept himself. And like, I- Oh! You don't know he's gay! You're right, you're right.

Oh, come on! Oh! Are you fucking kidding? Like people shouldn't be dunking on her, it's kinda sad. Look, I think, I think, I think if he is, you know what? Devil's advocate. Okay. He's not even like- Devil's advocate, he may, if he is, you know what? Devil's advocate. He's not even like, devil's advocate. He may not be gay. And you know what?

You don't even believe that. You don't even believe that. He's not. Okay, so he may not be gay. I don't know. And we should accept him and be patient for him to come out. Why? Be patient with him and be patient for him

For him to tell us he's gonna tell us I mean he kind of told us in the last video She keeps reading the funniest comments, it's so great If it's not necessary, that's very rude. That mean. That's... I don't know what's going on in your life, but don't take it out on other people. Like if you're miserable. Yeah, gay boys. I'm sorry that you're miserable. No, I'm happy. I want him to be happy. Please, because that's just rude. You say that my giggling and my happy... like if my happiness is bothering you, leave. Yeah. Leave. Seriously. Seriously. I don't need my giggling and my happy like if my happiness is bothering you. Yeah

Leave seriously. I don't I don't know like my happiness in my relationship bothers you and if how I react or act in my relationship bothers you by like Okay, I don't know what else to say Besides no awesome thing you're saying are very rude and you can keep that to yourself because those are your opinions and nobody wants to hear them if they're going to be hurting another person. Oh my god, that was it.

That was it. I feel bad. Can I see the comments? I would like to go on record and say that I was, I was pretty quiet. I was on your side, super hard watch for both of you also by people exist. That's another thing. That's another thing that happened. We did buy rager. We did buy invisibility. Um, me when I'm delusional. No. Okay. What do you think about this cutie? Cause I feel like you just walked us into being canceled. I liked doing it. What do you know? What's your, what's your honest opinion? My honest opinion.

opinion That boy gay as hell just say it god damn Worked in a fucking wedding cake factory you were surrounded by men like this to play devil's advocate I have he could be bi yeah, he could be bisexual, but he could be straight. He's straight. He could be straight Could be right like there's a chance. There's always a chance. There's super masked men. Get back to the video. Wait, wait, wait, wait, let's finish it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Think about this. There are very masculine men like myself, right? That you wouldn't even think for a second are homosexual, right? I mean it's true. Correct. Right? For a moment. So there could be very effeminate men like this. The only thing that I noticed in this video is it feels like he is, every single time

she turns, it looks like he is looking directly at the boobs and he's looking directly at the ass and it feels way too intentional. I thought that. Yeah. But that's the only thing I've said so far and that's all I'll say. Why would you think that? It seems like you noticed something that's a little off here. Okay, let's watch the rest of it. Come on.

Oh my god, now I'm noticing it. Now I'm noticing it. I didn't even notice that. Lucky for him, he doesn't have to decide. She's gorgeous. Last one she's gorgeous Which one's your favorite one? Three number three. Yeah the short one Open your eyes. I'm surprised Maya Go ahead. Not only I don't like watching but it's one of the only long dresses that actually I don't have to have I do Think she probably has a lot of people in her DMS right now though Really? Yeah, cuz yeah them. She looks great

That's love so I mean look I feel guilty yeah I said and I think that I take it back I think you know what honey he's straight oh you know what my friend sir you know what, my friend, sir? You know what, if you, if there's a coming out that we had, it's not our journey. And it's not our journey. We shouldn't be judging you for putting, I don't know what you were doing, but we shouldn't be judging you. And if you want to come out, there's a whole community that will accept you. Wow, that was beautiful. That was beautiful. My opinion. If you want to come out, there's a whole community that will accept you.

Wow, that was beautiful. That was beautiful. My opinion. I feel like if someone, if you encountered yourself, sorry to cut you off. Welcome to the podcast. If you encountered yourself before you came out and you gave that speech to your former self, you'd stay in the closet for another five years.

Go on. I'm sorry. My opinion is Whether or not he's gay. I don't care. I think it was a very hard watch Straight or gay. Yeah, that's it. That's the best. Have your boyfriend like react to your dresses And then if that's about to be that's that's the two y'all just do that yourselves We should recreate it. That's Midwestern things though. That's brilliant. That's like a very Midwestern ass that's brilliant like we're filming it I didn't like watching it that's brilliant

awesome that's brilliant I liked it wait wait wait wait wait that's fucking okay yeah where are we gonna post what What are you gonna say about my chest? That is not what I was gonna say at all. What the fuck is wrong with you? Someone clipped him saying that he likes titties and now he's saying he doesn't like her titties. This is genius. Austin can't perform convincingly gay. He's gonna be like, yeah, I like your tits.

Okay, we wanna do it this week? Yeah. You wanna film it for your TikTok? Yeah. Okay, yeah, it makes more sense. No, no, no, it's fine. It makes more sense on yours. We could also do that.

We could both post it. That's true, we could do that. But we could also do it on the fear and account, it's like a neutral party. You can just have it. I don't care about my TikTok. Austin doesn't want this fucking thing. I care about it being funny.

That's all I care about. Austin does not want your ass on his TikTok. No, she's great on my TikTok. No, he wants it on his TikTok. That's exactly what he wants it for. Ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of our episode. And we do appreciate having a wonderful, one of my favorite women. Thank you. Oh, yeah, but we have the game a wonderful, one of my favorite women. Thank you.

Yeah. But we have the game behind the paywall at patreon.com slash fear. And also page john.com slash wine about it. If you want to go and watch a Lamer podcast and it's like, it's a little more organized. We would know because cutie does the same amount of work for this one and she does for that one So it's like kind of 50 50 the same level of organization. Sure. Thank you for watching and we will continue to empower women Not me. Thanks guys. Thank you I think you look great. Thanks. Yeah No, I was thinking about something funny what it made me laugh what but it was a hate comment good but it was evil read my hate comment but it was you know you read a hate comment against her and you know

what's wrong with you know it was I was like that's so mean, but it was funny. I want to know it, please. I beg. I've done that before. I've read a lot of hate comments. I was like, this was so funny. It said, Oh God, look, look at cuties stuck her stuck a fork in an electrical socket.