Fear& - Youtubers Fuslie & Sykkuno Get A Crash Course On Twitch Drama (Controversial) | Fear&Bodywash

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

After extensive focus group research and market testing we arrived at the sobering reality that Hasan and Will were not resonating w/ anyone under the age of 45. So Leslie and Sykkuno have joined the ...Fear& podcast as permanent co-hosts to appeal to a broader audience. Topics today include, defeating Leslie's no showering allegations, Sliker/Twitch Drama, why Hasan is so forgettable and more.🎉BONUS CONTENT🍾 🌟PATREON - https://www.patreon.com/FearAnd🌟TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@fearandtiktok🎧 AUDIO PLATFORMS - https://linktr.ee/fearand🐥follow our guest!🐤Leslie: https://twitter.com/FuslieSykkuno: https://twitter.com/Sykkuno🐤follow the boys!🐥Fear&: https://twitter.com/FearAndPodHasan: https://twitter.com/HasanthehunWill: https://twitter.com/TheWillNeffMarche: https://twitter.com/Marche Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:49 For free assistance, call the Connex Ontario helpline at 1-866-531-2600. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. yeah we just record it we'll cut it later surely all right dude we are so live we're live and we're oh my god who is this man to the left of me that's crazy is that international icon draco malfoy from the harry potter series i first crush that's oh my god your first person was will neff me too i'll throw down some parcel tongue that's crazy i spit that parcel tongue in the pussy just kidding what the ew he doesn't show up for like two episodes? Who is this man? Dude, like, what the fuck was that? We have cool guests.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Okay. Oh, is this better? He's breaking the ice. We have cool guests on. This is it. Cool guests. He thinks he's like super mega. He can say like weird gay shit.
Starting point is 00:02:00 We can't do that. I have a Harry Potter joke. Guys, we have incredible Harry Potter jokes. Sorry, sorry. Let's hear this out. Let's get the Harry Potter joke. Guys, we have incredible Harry Potter jokes. Sorry, sorry. Let's go to the intro first. Let's hear this out. Let's get the Harry Potter joke out. Let's hear this out.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Okay, you need to crack off on that. Hey, girl, do you like Harry Potter? Because I can stick my basilisk in your chamber of secrets. Was that a joke? Was that a joke? I don't know if it's a joke. It's a pickup line. It's a pickup line.
Starting point is 00:02:22 What is it? What the fuck? It's a pickup line. I said it. I meant it is it? What the fuck? It's a pickup line. I said it. I meant it as a pickup line. Oh, dude. Leslie, thank God you're a woman, okay? Because you would not make it in this world.
Starting point is 00:02:35 What? Yo! Imagine Leslie trying to pick someone, like kicking game. Hey, yo. I got a joke for you, babe. You would get maced. It's so bad, it's good. I would have game.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Damn. More than me. Would you be able to kick game? You don't need to have game. Don't start with this. You don't need to have game. You're Sykuna. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Look at him. It doesn't work. You're just saying that because we're both wearing the same. That's true. I saw him. I saw Sykuna wearing this, and I immediately ran over and grabbed mine. I was like because we're both wearing the same that's true I saw him I saw Sykuno wearing this and I immediately ran over and grabbed mine and I was like we're matching
Starting point is 00:03:09 and I actually suggested it to Will too but he was like I got guns the tickets to the gun show yeah that's kind of on Carl wasn't at the shoot Carl Jacobs we got good merch we got shooters
Starting point is 00:03:23 well where's our intro? Is this good, by the way? Oh, fuck. Before I forget. All right. Oh, my God. We are joined by... We're joined by incredible guests today.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls and babies, we got... We got... Oh, my God. We got Sykuno. Ooh. And...
Starting point is 00:03:41 Oh, shit. I'm sorry. What is this? Please, don't introduce myself. We got... I'm just kidding. We got Sakura and we got Leslie. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Woo! Boosley. Thank you. Thank you for having us. She's role-playing as Blau now. Well, okay. You know the prank. The prank.
Starting point is 00:03:58 It's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke. Yeah. Well, you are the number one purveyor of said joke. You bully him a lot. I stopped doing it as much and now everyone just does it too. I used to never do it, and now I do it all the time.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'm just copying Leslie. I just want to be like Leslie. That's straight up. And I want to be like Sykuno, so I'm trying to be like Leslie. So it's all Leslie's fault is what? Yeah. I take credit. She'll take credit like it's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Anyway, there's not a lot going on this week. This is going to be a boring episode. It's not a lot going on this week so this is gonna be a boring episode it's gonna be a really slick episode our platform not yours oh yeah we're on youtube so yeah well technically so is this podcast so don't worry our platform is fine we're good we're chilling so what's going on twitch i heard everything's going really smooth and slick there, but yeah, no, I'll be honest. Like since you guys, I saw what you did there. Since you guys left platform is blowing up timing. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I leave YouTube. I leave Twitch for you. Leslie was the glue. Is that what you're? Yeah. You left and then E-Rob got banned and then everything has been E-Rob was the glue. Yeah. No, I don't think so. I think his community was harassing him. He said he was going to cross one of his viewers' chins. Someone was talking
Starting point is 00:05:14 shit in his chat and he's like, when I see you at TwitchCon, I'm going to punch you in the face. That's why he got banned. To be fair though, we're the vibes off with that chatter. For sure. What did he say? Honestly, I don't know. To be fair, though, we're the vibes off with that chatter. For sure. Because, like, honestly.
Starting point is 00:05:26 The vibes were bad. What did he say? Honestly, I don't know. I have no clue, but I like thinking that a streamer doesn't like a chatter, then they shouldn't be there, right? I mean, it's your stream. I agree. Get them out.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Twitch's term serves. I usually defend it, even though, you know, I'm basically pen testing. I'm testing the bands, like the amount, the maximum amount that one streamer can get. But having said all that, I think maybe you shouldn't get banned for saying you'll beat the shit out of a chatter at TwitchCon. I mean... Let us have that.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Okay? What can we have if we can't have that? You know what one I would fight for? What? Buttcrack. You can't say buttcrack? No, you can't have that? You know what one I would fight for? What? Butt crack. You can't say butt crack? No, you can't have butt crack. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Butt crack comes out all the time. You can't have a typical butt crack. No. I feel like that's there, though. I feel like that's there. Am I wrong? It's nuts that you can't show male anus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:19 What is that? Well, not the anus, but the cheeks. Okay, I just meant like a noose loosely. Like obviously it's like the whole thing. He's really making it worse. He's making it worse. I just meant like, I don't know why I'm doing this, but I just meant like.
Starting point is 00:06:37 That's the extra looseness. Yeah, what is happening here? It's flapping in the wind. You want butt cheek to be, or butt. You should be able to show butt. Yeah, you should be able to show butt, especially male butt. One in the wind. You want butt cheek to be, or butt. You should be able to show butt. Yeah, you should be able to show butt. Especially male butt. One for the boys.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Because this is YouTube's finest, we will inform them as to what's going on on our platform, Twitch. Where do you want to start with the flaming trash pile that is? I think there's been a long buildup of things that some of our top content creators have been doing for a while that irked a bunch of other content creators also on the platform.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It all started, XQC did not want to go to shit camp, which is an understandable thing. You can just not want to go, which is fine. But he did the most XQC thing ever and chose to not tell anyone until the day of shit camp. And then basically said it on his broadcast that he wasn't actually going to go and never informed Cutie. Nor Ludwig, who was throwing a show for XQC. A show which myself and Wilnef were supposed to be on before shit camp. Sykuno, I didn't want to leak it, but you were also supposed to be on before shit camp. It's like, who know?
Starting point is 00:07:46 I didn't want to leak it, but you were also supposed to be on as well. I mean, I don't know. I mean, also it's, it's interesting that no one's said this, but it's not, it wasn't like a show like this show where you all just sit down at a table.
Starting point is 00:07:58 There was a set built. Yeah, no, it was on a, it was like a show. It was in a theater. Like Ludwig literally did the rehearsal the night before. There was like a giant Legends of the Hidden Temple face that lit up.
Starting point is 00:08:10 It was a big production. Lud put together a bomb-ass show for XQC, and he just didn't show up to that, didn't tell Ludwig apparently that he was not going to show up to his own show on his own channel, didn't tell Cutie that he wasn't going to show up to shit camp and you know i being the person who is very like uh annoyed with things like that i didn't shut the fuck up and and hold my tongue as is normally the process in these sorts of situations the most
Starting point is 00:08:38 to gain yeah no totally because i love i love being doxxed by 14 year olds on the internet so i'm always like let's do that today. Oh, God. Yeah. Sometimes I'll just go to Chuck E. Cheese and drop my ID because I like it as well. Yeah. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Listen, we're thrill seekers, okay? Forget bungee jumping. But basically, that turned into like, oh, man, maybe XQ should be like more cordial to it went from that to like you know uh everyone also shitting on xqc like a lot of people on lsf shitting on him and stuff because he's done this like a million times um and then the juice lord army also joined forces and we're like fuck everybody xqc is infallible that's my god uh he doesn't need to tell anyone anything ever uh and and that sparked additional drama which then turned into xqc uh
Starting point is 00:09:35 leaking that he had broken up with his girlfriend adept that part i caught he loved and, so then XQC mentioned it for like 10 minutes and made a YouTube video about it. And then Adept talked about it the next day. And then XQC talked about it again, which led to a three-hour live discussion. I have not watched it yet. I don't plan on watching it. It was kind of weird. Well, the crazy thing is Netflix bought the rights. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Actual. No. Like, what? Oh. I don't know i don't know six part yeah true crime would be insane yeah yeah so yeah yeah me miyamori miyamori juicer um so yeah they they had like a like a breakup debate which is weird yep i saw that on the platform and i got like 120 000 viewers and you know kai senat's eating popcorn uh watching it with like 60 000 viewers everyone's like doing you know uh debate analysis afterwards it was a whole spectacle um so that was like the first big thing but we had no idea what was to come and And then after that, I guess after that, that was the main drama.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And then out of nowhere, it turns out that a person on the platform by the name of Slicker, who I'm very familiar with, I've been on a lot of shows with. Yeah, we've interacted with Slicker too. He's a big Minecraft guy. No, he's a big Minecraft guy no
Starting point is 00:11:05 best friends with Sykuno and Leslie no very close close in person you're the one who got him into sports betting right yeah what is sports betting
Starting point is 00:11:20 stop that is a joke. That's a joke. That's a joke. He's joking. I don't even know. Um, so yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:29 Slicker, uh, he, over the course of, of, of the past three years, almost four, since 2019,
Starting point is 00:11:38 Slicker apparently has been asking people for money, like all the time and kind of scamming them, uh, saying that he's gonna pay it back you know and and making promises he was gonna pay it back and you know people started popping up left and right this was unsurprising to me because he had already asked me for money all the way back in 2020 so i was like oh yeah i know that like i i gave him some money and then he asked me again in like like last month so i was like no i, yeah, I know that. I gave him some money, and then he asked me again last month. So I was like, no, I'm not giving you money.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Something fucking crazy going on here. I did not know how crazy it was, though. Turns out he has asked everyone, including... He's at like $500,000. Oh. Not everyone. Not everyone. Did he not?
Starting point is 00:12:21 Not either of us. Oh, I didn't. Not me neither. Are you guys broke boys? He doesn't think. I think, yeah, we just, maybe I don't look. What the heck, Leslie? I guess he did not see that you guys were on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Missed that part. So maybe he just didn't know. But how much did you milk out of you? I gave him $1,000. Wait, really? Oh my God. Only 500 for me. This perspective,
Starting point is 00:12:48 and I haven't talked about this yet on stream, because at first, when this started being revealed, it was one of those things where I think I wanted to protect a person that I thought was sincerely at the mercy of his addiction. As more and more details come out, it seems, A, that he's kind of remorseless about this.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Oh, I didn't even, yeah. I didn't even think, oh, 100%, we'll get to that, because then I had a conversation with him, but I didn't even think that at first. I didn't say anything the first day this popped off, because I thought, like, there's got to be, like, cancer in the family or some shit. Like, why is he doing this?
Starting point is 00:13:22 So there's a lot that I i have not said that i'll say here first of all it's interesting that this came out when it did because when we went to europe i spoke with a friend of ours who was in europe with us i won't drop his name and i i had been asked for money and the the account that he gave me was that he lived with his mom and his accounts were blocked and they were going to get evicted. Wait, we all had this conversation, didn't we? Yes, exactly. Oh my God, I just remembered.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So we had a conversation with a friend and that friend said, oh, dude, he has a gambling problem and he won't take a contract because he thinks gambling is haram. And so then we started talking about it and he's like, he's borrowed money from a lot of people i remembered that he had asked seer for money so when i went to austin we were at a party and i was like slicker asked you for money right and he was like oh yeah dude and someone overheard that and they said oh my god slickers asked me for money and at the party
Starting point is 00:14:21 it became like it became almost like a game where we would go to people and be like has slicker asked you for money and at this party of like 30 people like 15 or 16 of us had been asked for money and we're like this is actually just like yeah this is actually crazy and then he almost like a week later asked me for money again with the same story that he had been locked out of his account and stuff and it was it's just crazy how far-reaching this yeah he has asked pretty much everyone his own moderators his own community members and i asked them i we misgiv brought him into a call uh earlier today and uh i i had some questions for him about like what's going on because I wanted to have a conversation about like gambling addiction in general and I originally had like I mean I
Starting point is 00:15:11 still have a lot more I still have a lot of empathy for people who are struggling with addiction because like we all have had our demons that we've dealt with or know someone that has been you know struck by a similar thing which is why i've always been a big champion against a crusader against like gambling on the platform from the jump yeah um but yeah he he did seem very remorseful or remorseless sorry uh and and it was a wild conversation overall but um he has taken money from people that were like undergoing chemotherapy like knowing full well that they were undergoing chemotherapy like really just like probably the worst thing you can do like come forward and just say like yeah i never planned to give the money back or did he say like that was no no but that's not how that works even if you you might legitimately believe that he always intended to give it back but basically
Starting point is 00:16:05 he was like he got 100 grand from train wrecks um he's gotten like a lot of money he got uh this is like half a million dollars yeah yeah we he told me on the call that it was 300,000 that he thinks is the number pretty sure it's like around 500 um he was keeping track i mean he was not keeping track from so many people yeah and he kept saying like no no i pay back some people but like no like the reality is i think he was just trying to keep it going almost like a posi scheme i think for me when i at first when i thought it was just creators, I think I had a different perspective on it because I do have this feeling that among YouTube and Twitch creators, we are so blessed to live the lives that we do.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And it is one thing to ask your affluent friends for money. But when I found out he was taking advantage of people that trusted him, like your community are the ones that uplift you, they believe in you, they support you, they love you. To take advantage of those people is so rough, man. Yeah. So tough. Pretty irredeemable.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Um, and, and I don't know, I don't know if he like doesn't understand it, but this is like, it's grand larceny. It's like wire fraud kind of, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, they voluntarily gave him the money, but they gave it to him under false pretenses. So I don't, I i mean this is a lot of money like this is not a tiny bit which is jail for this i think i feel like if you don't then something's wrong yeah it's kind of wild what is that like a cheat code like there's no way you
Starting point is 00:17:40 can just do that right yeah i haven't looked into the you know criminal code in the uk but i suspect that this this level of of like asking people money under false pretenses has got like if if this happens you just get away then something's definitely wrong yeah so so then you know that that's where we're at the platform has had a sequence of like insane dramatic moments back to back to back yeah games what games you guys play Valorant actually I just revealed my rank I'm bronze one that's pretty good I'd steer almost I'm like silver so yeah he's already he's only one behind me like tier. Yeah, so I'm coming for you. No, it's crazy because we've been playing since the beta.
Starting point is 00:18:28 The game opened like four, how long ago? Three years, two years ago? We should actually play because I like when we don't have any smurfs. Oh, yeah, it's nice. A lot of my friends are high rank. I like when we're all actually bronze and silver. Yeah, no, smurfing is, I think, punishable by death. Molding
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah I think you can buy Smurf accounts on eBay For like five bucks It's really fucking annoying I didn't want to do that By the way I didn't want to do that Because I wanted to like
Starting point is 00:18:51 Actually learn the game No it's better to do it that way Yeah Because if I just like Jumped in You know fucking bronze Or whatever I would have gotten
Starting point is 00:18:58 My shit pushed in All the time It would have been too hard To get carried I still do I don't need to smurf I'm low Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:03 But But But it's not You're kidding time it would have been too hard to get carried i still do smurf from low yeah but but but it's not thanks producer thanks producer march um wait so you guys enjoying it like you get like big time i'm hooked all i can think about is Yeah. We went to do mini golf yesterday. Anytime I do anything, even remotely competitive, even if it's not supposed to be,
Starting point is 00:19:29 it's fun. I immediately am like, I wish I was playing Valorant right now. He was molding at mini golf. I got a hole in one. You did? You got a hard hole? One person saw it.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It was a hard hole. Nobody saw it, but I believe him. He's an honest guy. No, no, no. One person saw it. Okay. Ray saw it.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Ray saw it. To be fair. And I got really excited. I was like, no, no. One person saw it. Okay? Ray saw it. Ray saw it. To be fair. And I got really excited. I was like, oh, I got a hole in one. And then literally not a single person. Not a single person. It was so awkward. We look around.
Starting point is 00:19:54 We're like, wait, did you actually get it? Yeah. I believe you, Hasan. That's so bad. I believe him. I just didn't see it even though I was there. But I believe him. Yeah, because everyone was like, I don't know what Austin was doing
Starting point is 00:20:06 I think it was like touching Nolan's face or something so everyone was like more focused on that instead of my fucking hole-in-one Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I'm gonna get over Oh my god, that's YouTube thinking oh my god, why don't we ever do that? She's on YouTube now She knows why do you why do we never do that? I'm old. I'm I am. I mean well, it's because your viewers will like it anyway because they're such a big supporter We'll probably like it right robbing their mouths right now Well, I think they'll all like it now because you didn't have to tell is that your pants work There there like this. Oh They were not making any sense to my brain.
Starting point is 00:20:54 That's just a leg window? That's cool. Showing a little skin. It's just... Oh, yeah. Can I get one of those? Yeah, no. We're literally cutting the podcast all up to this moment. We can't.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Absolutely not. We're all wearing... We can just use that later. I mean... We're all... I wore this on stream. But this is top. This is...
Starting point is 00:21:14 We need to upload this ASAP because we are talking about relevant topics right now. Yeah. Like, soon. And, like... Yeah, it's going to be uploaded... Oh, it's coming out, like, tomorrow. It's going to be uploaded super fast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I'll let you know if I say anything I feel like I shouldn't have said, but... Yeah, it's going to be uploaded. It's going to be uploaded super fast. Yeah. I'll let you know if I say anything. I feel like I shouldn't have said, but. Yeah, no. What else is going on? What else is going on? Like, well. Oh, I kind of, I mean, we've been on a trip. We went to New York.
Starting point is 00:21:38 We've been out of it. We came back. Oh, for Fashion Week. Catch up on ours. Oh, Ray had a billboard. Yeah. Ray had a billboard. It was a big one. Oh, yeah. The Oh. Ray had a billboard. Yeah. Ray had a billboard. It was a big one.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Oh, yeah. The biggest one. The biggest one. The biggest billboard. Oh, you were there. I remember. I was streaming. Oh, you were there?
Starting point is 00:21:53 That's crazy. I forgot. I can't believe you just hit me with it. You were there. I remember. The whole trip was a dream. We literally fucking shared so many experiences. Oh, my god.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Every time we had dinner, I sat across from Sykuno. What the fuck? My memory's bad. Listen, listen. Oh, NPC Hassan. That is crazy. That made much of an impression. So, wait.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Sykuno, can we talk about why Hassan is so utterly forgettable? What? No, no, that's not. What about him? This whole trip. What is going on? I've been out of it the whole trip.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I feel like I'm barely awake now. I've got three bags under my eyes. Never had that before. A triple bag? Yeah, I've never had that. I've just been a lot of, you know, the whole trip. Came back. Trying to catch up on the hours, the whole bit, you know. How whole bit you know how many hours i've been drinking too much liquid yes like who and i
Starting point is 00:22:49 both got like like i'm not even kidding like we got 16 uh like we got a fucking pound of wagyu oh oh yeah that was like we both got an entire pound of wagyu which was delicious it was great they brought it out it was marble that looked like fucking chicken dude i thought it was literally an entire pound of Wagyu, which was delicious. It was great. They brought it out. It was marble that looked like fucking chicken, dude. I thought it was literally, it did not have much red in it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 They call it red meat, but it was like, it was like a sheet of orca fat is what it looked like. That's my favorite kind. It was good, but it's a lot to eat.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I think it just, the fat really gets to you. I slammed it. You will sweat. to you. I slammed you'll sweat sweats before I've heard of them. It's when you've had it once ever. Well, you also can eat so much meat that you sweat It's a thing. I've seen it your body just starts oil. It's like you're producing or at least when you smell like meat How do I know cuz I thought it's the smoke from the KBBQ that's coming at me.
Starting point is 00:23:46 You might be meat sweating. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, question for you. What's up with the shower thing? Let's just get right to it. Why don't you shower? Why? Are you meat sweating right now?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Let me just clear this up. You don't have to clear it up all the fucking time. All right. I don't actually not shower. I shower once every two days, 48 hours. Okay okay you just told me you haven't showered for three days yeah so today's a special day okay i knew i was coming on the pod do you power up like is that how that works like no i just don't like she never smells bad are you
Starting point is 00:24:21 a dry shampooer yes it's like youuna, get in there and tell us. Give us a whiff. Sykuna, get in there and tell us. I was fine. Exactly. She never smells bad. She's never smelled bad ever. Okay, but in high school,
Starting point is 00:24:31 I did used to shower once a Saturday, every Saturday, and that was it. What the fuck? But I ran in the family. Stop. You only showered once a week? Kate, can I ask you, what's your reason for not showering?
Starting point is 00:24:42 Because I don't need to. She just doesn't have to. I don't smell. But you don't enjoy showering? No. don't need to. She just doesn't have to. I don't smell. But you don't enjoy showering? No. Well, the actual. Well, clearly not. I fucking did it once every seven days.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. No, because my mom would like kind of, well, sorry to expose my mom. Oh. But she was also once a week. Was it the water? No, not the water bill. Oh, okay. It was more of like.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Not even. No, it wasn't. It was like. Not conservation? No, fuck that. Fuck the environment. No, no. Forget the water saving. It's just. No, it wasn't. It was like. Not conservation? No, fuck that. Fuck the environment. Forget the water saving.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It's just. No, it was just like, I didn't smell. So I looked at my hair and my hair wasn't greasy. And I was like, well, I don't need a shower. I don't smell. I'm fine. And then my mom was also like, yeah, I only shower once a week. So don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Hassan and I are big shower boys. We're twice a day boys. Twice a day. Because we both grew up fat. I'm twice a day. So like. And we also work out every day. Yeah, that too.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Working out for sure. You have to shower. When I work out, I time my showers with my, my workout with my showers. So I go to the gym. I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:25:31 I can't go to the gym tomorrow because I just showered today. That's crazy. That is an insane thing to say. Sometimes I'll shower before. No, it's supposed to be the other way around. No, I can't.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You're supposed to shower because you're like, oh, I'm going to go to the gym definitely every day. Yeah, I get that train of thought too, but mine's the other way. Yeah. That's because no, no, but think about this.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Okay. Imagine you shower, right? You get out and you. Is that how quickly, is that how quickly it works for you? You get it. You get 10 minutes. Okay. Dry.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Okay. That part's fine. That's where everyone has the same shower experience. When you get out though. Now I have to wait two hours or like an hour for my hair to air dry. You're talking to two boys who had two guys. Famously long hair.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Oh yeah. So how do you shower so much? I literally just roll. I roll with it. Yeah, but then I- He dries it. He had beautiful hair when he had long hair.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I just let it ride. I don't give a fuck. So yours is natural. So that's like easy. But then when you had the, when you were like doing a lot of blow drying, wasn't it like a hassle?
Starting point is 00:26:23 No. I mean, I feel like your hair's not super long right now. No, no, no. He used to have shoulder length hair. I remember that. Yours is almost shoulder length now. Yeah, mine is. Mine probably is.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I like the slight wave in your hair. Yeah, it's nice. It's just natural. Floppy, choppy. Lucky, lucky. Lechuga. Yeah, if I could have short hair, I would do it, but I just would not rock it.
Starting point is 00:26:41 You should do a YouTube video where you shower every day a week and just see how your life changes. That's great. See this brain? See what my brain is doing? I showered every day for a week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah. Nothing changes. Nothing changes. It wouldn't be that exciting. It'd be funny if she saw her deteriorate. Yeah, you'd die. You're like, my skin's so dry.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Her heart couldn't take the strain. I don't know. I wouldn't want to do it. It's just really time consuming. And so today I was really trying to shower before the stream, but I couldn't. I didn't have time. So then I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:09 Greg, shower cap. Maybe just keep your hair. I actually bathe every day. That's the thing. Oh, what? Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:15 wait, what? Wait, what? Leslie, this is a, you just told us you shower every day then. What?
Starting point is 00:27:22 I'm talking wash my hair. What are you? Hey, what is going on right now so this entire time wait wait wait you wash your body every day has thought for years that you do not wash yourself but once a week. And it's all because you thought showering meant washing your hair? Wait, wait, wait. Stop. This is breaking news. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Hold on. Quick question. I wash my body. Let's say in the shower. Yeah. That's showering, Leslie. No. I thought it's like when you're getting under the shower.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like a shower is like. This is actually groundbreaking. Think about a shower. This is even I'm shook and I live with her. Right? Most people don't have. What are words, Leslie? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:28:22 What is a shower? That's a shower. Wait, wait. No. What? No one washes their hair every day. That's true, wait, wait, wait, wait. What is a shower? That's a shower. No. What? No one washes their hair every day. That's right. No, no, no, no. That's why I brought up the point.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I wash my hair every day, but I don't actually shampoo every day. I don't shampoo. Yeah, I'll rinse my hair every day. Thank you. Exactly. But not shampoo every day. Well, that's why I brought up the point. Without long hair, I would wear a shower cap.
Starting point is 00:28:38 That's why I brought up the point. Shower cap. Also. Of the hair. That's why I said that's the issue. Are you familiar with the invention of the shower cap? Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Why do you think it's called a shower cap if you're not showering in your mind? That's a good point. You've never questioned this. I cannot believe. This is like the end of the sixth sense. This is the craziest twist in history. Why wouldn't you say wash your body? When I say shower, I am getting fully, like, wet.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Do you think people are aware that you wash your body every day? I think I've mentioned it a few times. Leslie, can I tell you that the internet thought that you do not wash yourself but once a day? Yes. What the hell? There is no way. This is the actual biggest twist of the entire streaming.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, no, it is. Leslie, Leslie. It is the biggest shocker to me. Yeah, that's disgusting. I'm glad that we're on the same page. No, no, God, you thought I would go. I mean.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Ew, in high school. This is the one. Every Saturday, ew. Sorry, you thought that I went seven days. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, God. We were like, oh, God. We were just kind of rolling with it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Like, oh, she's quirted out. I didn't want to be mean. And it's true. She never smells bad. I meant washing my hair. But even nowadays, I will say I don't shower every day. Like, even with our new definition of shower. Our new definition.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Like, ye olde English definition. With this, I guess, yeah. I'm pretty sure, like, 17th century people understood that. So how often do you wash your body? Pretty much every day. Yeah. Oh. I must.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I must. I got Aveeno body wash recently. So we all thought she was crazy this whole time. So you enjoy washing your body? So everybody thought she was crazy for the longest time. Yes, yes. But I will say, I didn't use body wash until like six months ago. Okay, what?
Starting point is 00:30:30 No, stop. I would just let the shampoo rinse down. What? The suns? But that's only once a week. That's not even washing. You only shampoo once a week. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So doesn't that mean... So wait, how do you wash yourself when you don't... Stop. Stop everything. I use my shampoo once a week. Yeah, yeah. So doesn't that mean- So wait, how do you wash yourself when you don't- Shit. Stop. Stop everything. How do you wash your body if you don't use body wash when you're not washing your hair then? No, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:30:53 You just rub yourself with the water. What do you mean you don't know? Okay, well here's my memories. Here's my- I have something for you. Yes, yes, it's a context. This is a context, thank you. I got flamed for this video by like real people.
Starting point is 00:31:05 That's not bad. The thing, girls don't stink like us, you. A little deodorant. Yeah, but do you shower like when you don't wash your hair? Because I never do that. I do that sometimes. I did recently buy some body wash. And I kind of understand that. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:31:24 So you just trickle down. Oh This is how you know she's telling the truth she's consistent No, I'm not lying I just use the shampoo because it just washes down. It's soap. So I'm just like, Leslie, what in God's name? What? Thank yourself. I mean, I would be honest.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I actually don't use body wash most of the time. You can just. I have a skin problem, so I actually can't. What do you use? Like a specialty thing, man? I try to, but even then I don't use it much. Okay. Do you have dry skin?
Starting point is 00:32:06 No no I just have psoriasis And eczema Oh okay I gotta be a little more careful Yeah That's a medical condition You have no reason Well nowadays
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah so What do you mean nowadays It's like I have eczema too now You're just gonna come out Nowadays I use body wash I shower Can I tell you I shower everyday
Starting point is 00:32:22 Breaking news Okay go ahead I have probably Five or six different body washes in my shower. Yeah. You got to have a bunch. I have a five-in-one Irish spring. Dude, I used to do that.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I'm trolling. I was actually trolling. I was trolling. I used to do that. No, no, no. I straight up like- Shaving, hair wash, conditioner, face wash, body wash. No way.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He's the prettiest motherfucker, though. Shaving cream and shampoo. No, he has like all- Even when we were dead broke. Yeah. Even when we were dead broke yeah even when we were dead broke this motherfucker would have like melon glitz or whatever i'm like bro you live in a fucking you literally wait it's real yeah no that is a real thing i used to use this um this motherfucker dude you think five and one's crazy dr bra Bronner That's like a 78 in 1 You can brush your teeth with it and shit
Starting point is 00:33:06 No Okay No Does that mean it doesn't taste that bad Or does that mean I taste it It tastes like dog shit Because you can literally
Starting point is 00:33:14 Fucking wash the wood floor with it Oh yeah Yeah that's it No It just sounds dangerous It just sounds dangerous Yeah and it's got like Bible passages
Starting point is 00:33:24 The dudes wear like goggles Yeah 18 and it's got like Bible passages all over it. Show the dudes wearing like goggles. Yeah. What's in there? Can we get the 18? It's like baby formula. Okay. Can you read what the 18 is? What is it?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Like there's obviously like shampoo. There's got to be a website. Go on the website. First of all, it's been out since 1858. Actually. So it must be good if it lasted that long. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Can I show you what I wash my body with?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yes. The number one body wash. Look up Milan and then a plus sign, goats. Not that good. I'm going to try it. It's good enough for Will. And then rum hand wash. Oh, there's better.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I'm going to describe something to you first of all. I used to do the fucking three in one, like whatever, four in one, five in one. I didn't know. I didn't know any better. Never done it actually. I thought that was a meme. That right there, that right there
Starting point is 00:34:09 is the best smelling body wash. I used to use this as well. No, I think ASAP is better. ASAP is very good. I like their scrubs. I use them for soap. Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I don't use soap often. So how did I get on the Aesop wave? I had a girlfriend, and she was like, what the fuck are you doing? She literally was like, because I would go in her shower, and she had trinkets. You know what I mean? There was like washcloth, which, by the way, we're going to talk about in a second. I want to know if you guys use that or not. There was like you
Starting point is 00:34:45 literally had to do like a apothecary style like concoction you had to do alchemy in there like she would have like little rocks or like little pebbles for your skin specifically and you would you would literally like dip the fucking uh i don't know specific wash for your different parts of your body no so she was rocking with like crazy shit, but it smelled really good. So I was like, yo, I'm going to take like the most simple shit from this. And then that's how I started doing. That's how I got on the Aesop train. Aesop is good.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I have Aesop. Very expensive. I have Aesop in my shop. I like them. I like them. I only have the hand soap. I got it as a present. Not sponsored.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah, not sponsored. I have their. Your sponsor here. I have their body scrub, their rose hip hair mask, their shampoo and conditioner, their body wash and face wash. Oh, and their vitamin C.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Oh, wow. You like really have a lot. How much does he spend on? He has the Patrick Bateman routine, like straight up, straight up. It ain't,
Starting point is 00:35:42 it ain't easy being this pretty. I used to have terrible skin. Did? The worst. Like, like acne. Oh, like straight up straight up it ain't easy being this pretty I used to have terrible skin you did? the worst like acne? oh like to the point where it was like I still have scarring
Starting point is 00:35:51 sides of my face I can't see it but so I'm like it's no joke he put me on the Propecia train too it's a
Starting point is 00:36:00 what's a day pill that makes you keep your hair? yeah oh yeah you both have my hairline my hairline was receding when I started on Twitch.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Really? And yeah. And he was like, bud, your hairline's receding. You got to get on it. And I always knew he was taking it. He's been taking it since like. I've been taking it since I was 18. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:16 He's been taking it since he was 18. It's a DHT blocker. It's a type of testosterone that it blocks. Because DHT, when you produce it, is shutting off your hair hair follicles. Basically it makes your body hairy and your hair, uh, you know, not hairy, I guess.
Starting point is 00:36:30 So the pill makes you more hairy. The pill stops that, uh, from shutting off your follicles in the top of your dome. And, uh, yeah, I use that.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And that was like the maximum thing that I did for, for personal care for the longest time. Did your hairline just grow back? I wouldn't say it grew back. It never comes back. It just stops. But it stopped. Yeah, it stopped the fucking death march for sure.
Starting point is 00:36:57 The death march. I'd be completely bald right now if I hadn't been proactive. Yeah. Great hair. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Can you say that directly to the camera? No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:37:09 You both have great hair. Wait. Yeah, you hear that? Great hair. You have great hair. Yeah. So, fuck you, chatters. Okay?
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah, bring him in. Bring him in. We got a special guest. Farley! Especially with the shower cap, though. Does it actually not get any of your hair wet underneath? You have to put your hair into it. I have curls in, and I can put it on.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You just kind of bunch it up. You might get the back wet a little bit. You wear your shower cap. You pull it up sometimes. Not a lot. Kind of cute seeing Sykuno in a shower cap. I can imagine that. I want to see that
Starting point is 00:37:45 I do naked we should do that behind the paywall Sykuno in a shower cap behind the paywall wait are we filming
Starting point is 00:37:51 a separate Patreon episode as well yeah yes so the way this works is we just do like a regular one hour
Starting point is 00:37:57 broadcast and then after that we just cut restart it and that's where we get all the secret stuff out that's where you can unload too.
Starting point is 00:38:06 You want to say some spicy shit? Get out there. They can't. It's illegal. We go to their house. We show up at their house. And we fuck their moms. How many people are paying the Patreon? So no one tries that? And we fuck their moms. That'll probably be fine. No, it's... Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:38:26 How many people are paying the Patreon? No, we... Oh, it's probably... Yeah! We'll talk about some extra financial stuff behind the payroll. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the extra.
Starting point is 00:38:37 We'll share our financial secrets, too. All our YouTube deals leaked. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Become a Patreon member. Yeah. Got you guys. And then the editor will get paid. Woo, March.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Woo, March. Let's go. Yeah. Justice. No, we're still not paying them. Let's be real. Okay. We beat the shit out of them.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah. Yeah. All right. It's payment enough. So shower-wise, are you guys familiar with the concept of a washcloth? Yeah. Do you use one? Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:39:04 You don't use it. No. Can I guess what it is? You use one? Sometimes. You don't use it. No. Can I guess what it is? You don't even fucking, you don't even shower. I do. We've already debunked that. But you don't even use soap.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Wait, hold on. Let me see if I'm using it right. Well, I just want to make sure it's like you have it somewhere in your shower and then you rub the body. Okay, I'm using it right. Okay, I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:39:21 But doesn't loofah have bacteria or something? Isn't that what people say? I don't know. But as long as you make sure it fully dries out and you just got to wash it. Got it, got it, got it. Okay, so go on about your washcloth. Do you use a washcloth?
Starting point is 00:39:33 I use a scrubby. You use a scrubby. Nice. I do not. Oh, okay. And from what I understand, this is a Caucasian activity. You're a straight up hand to body guy? I'm a hand to body guy.
Starting point is 00:39:42 What do you wash your ass with? But my hand? What do you wash your ass but my hand what do you wash your hand or ass with yeah you go in there with your hands yeah it's better get a couple fingers in there dude you have a separate ass scrubby i got ass scrubby you have an ass okay respect that's fine yeah that's how you're supposed to do it um but no your skin has to exfoliate and in order to do that though i think what i realize is like i think rich white people at least like they don't use uh like washcloths or whatever but they go and get like the fucking rocky scrubs basically
Starting point is 00:40:18 which is what i've been i've been using the body scrub that's what i use oh the ones that kind of hurt a little bit yeah yeah i've seen those yeah that's what I use. Oh, the ones that kind of hurt a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen those. Yeah, that's what I use to exfoliate. Just with a regular body wash or an exfoliator? No, the exfoliation is the, it's called a body scrub. It's like a body wash. A body wash is something you buy exclusively for your body.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I'm describing these terms to you because we don't know what you know and what you don't know. Okay, also when you buy body wash, like that is like including down there too, right? And like, I'm describing these terms to you because we don't know what you know and what you don't know. Okay. Also, when you buy body wash, like that is like including down there too, right? It goes, it can be used for everywhere. There's not specific. Yes. So. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Just making sure I'm doing it right. Yeah. You're doing it right. I am. I think now you're doing it right. Oh God. Okay. If you want to get crazy, you can get a pH balance wash.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Down there. Specifically. Oh, they have like... I've tried it. Have? I've tried some. Surprising. Surprising.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I now go with the... Yo, Leslie's getting blasted out of here, guys. I'm going with the Aveeno one. It's my favorite. It smells real good, and I just go... I like how their stuff smells. It smells so good. I love it. I just get a big glob of it how do you guys hey
Starting point is 00:41:28 how do you guys like being on youtube so far we were literally just talking about how good it is yeah i like it okay we were talking about how twitch feels like uh sharks like like everyone's like it's like a classroom i don't know it's not whatever would be a whole lot yeah yeah like bro it's all of like just a lot more everyone it's what everyone checks every day and they're like how relevant is everybody today and people you're having everyone is like tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are just making these us like you know they're having these thoughts every day when you're on youtube 52 000 but like who's i I get it.
Starting point is 00:42:05 What? What's your number? I was just saying my peak today. It's not a big deal. Let's move on. Let's continue. Yeah. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I never checked that. Do you have your account open? Oh, fuck. Yeah. I check it like obsessively. Oh, okay. So it's the only way to figure out. Well, I definitely I'm an analytics demon and we can get more into it on
Starting point is 00:42:27 the on the uh very well uh patreon side but i of course look at it and the way i describe it is like this is my job this is my performance it's the perhaps the only way to quantify something that is other otherwise qualitative information right like it's a very subjective thing so if you're doing the the you know if you're doing the right things then yeah you're gonna you're gonna see it strong yeah i mean there's so much more than that that impacts my mental health yeah sure okay yeah i've been of the close my beer account for the past four years type of things i've gone i've gone months without looking at my sub count i just no have no clue how many subs I have. Yeah, same. I rarely ever check. I don't really look
Starting point is 00:43:08 at my sub count that much. That's whatever. That's pretty consistent, but view count I do look. That's fine. I think a lot of people do that. Whatever is good for your own mental because sometimes that shit really is not good for my mental. I think it's
Starting point is 00:43:22 more that I just want to keep doing what I like doing. Yeah, if there's a game I like that gets less viewers, I might start thinking, oh, I shouldn't play this, but I don't want to do that. Come on, make up your mind, Farley. What do you want to do? He's just being a little baby. You want to close that door, Will?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Definitely. Oh. Um. So. Why did I bring this up? Oh, so you like YouTube more because it's like less of a fucking rat race. Like a daily rat race. Yeah, it feels like you're sort of doing your thing.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like even Ray forgot I was streaming on YouTube yesterday. Like I thought you were streaming and I was like, I am. Like I checked Twitch twice. And i was like i am like i checked twitch twice and i was like i think the way i describe it is i think it gives me a lot more freedom almost every way which i like yeah like no for sure i mean it depends on like where you are at in your career and like where how like if the viewers are like really really like that's like what really important that number i don't think it's probably gonna move to youtube at the moment um also yeah i don't know i was very
Starting point is 00:44:30 mentally okay with that idea like whatever it falls to for the most part i've never been affected i adjust very quickly because i i've been for eight years i've seen like i've gotten used to this this this then this and this so i've kind of just whatever it'll settle at like maybe i'll be sad and then I'll, I'll chill. You know, we've been around. Sorry. I mean, I went full time in 2020.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So. Kind of new. Same, actually, same. Yeah. I'm a newbie in the game, in the content. But I've been creating content in different, we both have been creating content in different platforms for a very long time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:09 But, yeah, I get what you're saying though it is definitely it was definitely a little ratchet at times it gets a little it gets a bit yeah it gets a bit spicy where everyone's like uh all right what's the next thing what's the thing what are we what are we jumping on yeah i think the reason i like this is because it's just, my end goal was not even to be a content creator, but like, I never really been like, I mean, I don't want to say I didn't want it like great, very happy.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah. Ended up being a thing, but it's not like I started streaming and was like, this is what I want to do. I want to be a big streamer. I want to like make it my job. Um, so I think that's why for me,
Starting point is 00:45:42 it's like, yeah, very happy with the YouTube move. Helps me closer get to what I want anyway, which is just hopefully just hang out and have fun doing things. Yeah, absolutely. Mad if I say that? Wait, why?
Starting point is 00:45:56 YouTube, man. Why the hell would they be mad if they said that? Don't they want an ambitious streamer that's trying to, no. No, I mean. I mean, it's, it's how I got where I am, right? Like I just play games have fun and i think that's all i want to do anyway and doesn't necessarily help that sometimes it makes it worse actually 100 not to be like ungrateful i think i'm very very lucky um but you know i i
Starting point is 00:46:20 agree i mean it's it's part of the reason why I don't like, uh, get to unwind and do like gaming related stuff all the time. Because like, when I see, yeah, when I see, well, I want to talk about that separately actually. Um,
Starting point is 00:46:32 which the great segue, but, um, the reason why I stopped GTA wasn't actually because of your account, which is what many people think. Cause I, I had some like pretty, I was pretty still solidly like in the 20s
Starting point is 00:46:46 in the 20k range or playing video games for hours and hours and i do that right now anyway as well right even when i like depending on the time of day or depending on what's relevant in the news like i i'm usually at a 30k base and then 20k when i'm playing video games and it drops below that too depending on what game i'm playing or who i'm playing with um but that definitely does impact my mental health in a way where i'm like well this is my job and you know i just don't want to i don't want to do that if if i feel like people just don't even enjoy it you know what i mean which is kind of fucked up to the 16k to 20K people that are watching, right? But also at the same time, I'm like, well, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Like, it's just not, I haven't been able to crack the code. Do you think there's any level of artistic expression to it? Or is it all just trash? It's trash. It can be, I mean. We just make fast food for the brain. It depends on the content. I think it depends a lot. Yeah, yeah, I mean because i i think
Starting point is 00:47:45 well i i didn't i didn't i didn't put that question out as a way of insinuating one side of the other but the one thing that i think is very interesting is the numbers element of what we do rarely coincides with the quality of the content you're making yeah i would think oftentimes some of the streams you're more proud of typically will be your medium performers, right? And the ones that really are outliers in terms of viewership are usually because you are riding some kind of meta or because you are making brain burgers, right? You're making fast food of the highest caliber that is just meant to be consumed and shut out. And the surplus in your audience are usually people that you don't really want to stick around,
Starting point is 00:48:28 in my opinion. I don't agree with that last part, because I love converting them. You also love blasting them out of an airlock. I do. I do that a lot. You need fresh blood to sacrifice everything. He bans a lot. I ban a lot. I'm pretty quick on it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 But that's the only reason why i've been able to maintain such a large community while simultaneously being able to have back and forth productive interactions with them uh especially when you know when it's prime time when we're doing fucking political content political commentary i rely heavily on my community building and it would be a fucking cesspit if i didn't do that so that's also part of the reason why a lot of people can't do what i do like even if they try i'm talking like examples like you know the ben shapiro's of the world are very popular very successful but they have a really they would never be able to replicate what i'm doing you have to be a little fucking mentally
Starting point is 00:49:21 ill and a little unsound i just asked the question because i think it's i think it's interesting how few of us self-included a lot of times are making content without any kind of expressed interest into like an artistic expression also in the fact that i don't think that art thrives on our platform i I think actually higher lift, bigger effort streams and projects are actually kind of deterred and down upon. Germa, Germa. Well, Germa is the outlier, right? Germa is an incredible, incredible creator
Starting point is 00:49:55 who is able to make these strange Andy Kaufman-esque experiments in live streaming. And to me, I view him kind of as like a personal inspiration because I would love to make more content that is strange and takes a risk. But it just doesn't seem like the other creators on this platform have the ability to do, or any platform in live streaming.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Or even if they have the ability, why would they do that? No, yeah, you're just gonna- Because you're not going to be you're never going to be incentivized to do such a thing i don't think you make more by doing that yeah which is you're you're not going to be financially compensated for doing that and you're not even going to get it because all matter of art is still important to reach eyeballs right like you still what is the purpose of a content creator or an artist even is to is to be able to change people still what is the purpose of a content creator or an artist even is to is to be able to change people's minds or the way they view themselves or like impact them
Starting point is 00:50:49 emotionally right if you want to get down to the to the you know the skeleton of why you create art i'm sure there are other reasons as well but that's one of the main motivators like art it's like uh if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if nobody heard it? You know what I mean? It does, but you still have to capture at least one eyeball for art to have made an impact. Yeah, but I would say that there is a counter-argument to that now where we have a whole generation of young people who have no ability to quantify art in any meaningful capacity
Starting point is 00:51:23 other than how many eyes are on it. No, I agree on it. No, I agree. And that's, no, that's terrible. Exactly. Making something that is otherwise like a quantitative,
Starting point is 00:51:32 uh, turning that into, or something that's otherwise qualitative, turning that into, you know, quantitative by looking at metrics is a really gross way to view it. But all right, close your eyes.
Starting point is 00:51:42 All right. Starting with each one of us. If you could make any piece of art tomorrow not any worry of audience or cost what are you making liz i'm making a song a song yeah kind of song no i would have a collaborative song probably okay who are you collaborating with i'll make the song with her maybe say kun I'll make the song with her. Maybe Sykuno can make the song with me. My friends could be the song. No, no, no, no. Who are you actually collaborating with?
Starting point is 00:52:08 Whoa. Oh, anybody you want? Anybody you want on the planet. Anybody you want. You have three seconds. Taylor Swift. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Get Taylor on the phone. Yeah, we have Taylor here, actually. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. She's coming. Hi, y'all. She flew in on her private jet. Marry me, Julia.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Okay. Is that a Taylor Swift song? When's the last, yes. When's the last time you made a song? In GTA, like three weeks ago. Oh yeah, that's why, sorry, this is my segue into, we're gonna talk about GTA really quickly.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Like my, one of my favorite things about it is my creative outlet. I use it to make music. I don't make any music under my, all under my character. So you've never made a song as yourself not really no but it's good it's a cool way to like offload it so it's like yeah oh yeah it takes away the pressure i bet yeah and then i work got into work with like legitimate like rapper like p money from the uk like we're on a song together like people just you just don't collaborate with who are like in
Starting point is 00:53:02 the city you're both artists then you connect outside and then they like, you pass back tracks and then like, someone's producing it who like, boom, boom, boom and you're like. Make a song as you
Starting point is 00:53:12 with the same people. Yeah, no, I'm literally doing that now. Yes! Yeah, that's what I'm doing. All right, good answer, good answer. Close your eyes. Okay, Sykuno,
Starting point is 00:53:18 what about you? Any art project. It'd be hard to follow on that one. Yeah, I don't think I, I'm gonna be honest, I don't. It's because your eyes aren't closed. Well, even if I close my eyes...
Starting point is 00:53:25 Now you've got it. It's just not something I'm interested in, I think. Really? Yeah, I think I... I just play games. I think... No. You got something, but we're not going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Do I? I think, well, you... We'll talk about it. We can cut it. We can cut it. I'm sorry. I think what you're doing with the... We'll cut this part. VTubers it. We can cut it. Yeah. I'm sorry. I think what you're doing with the, we'll cut this part,
Starting point is 00:53:46 VTubers. Oh, that's not really art. That's just because I don't like. No, that's still a unique expression though. That's just because I don't like getting ready for stream. Yeah. No. Um,
Starting point is 00:53:56 I just want to be able to turn my stream on without having to like fix everything and look okay. Hmm. Do you want to, can we talk about that? Or no? Is it revealed? The VTube thing? Oh, no one knows what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Oh, but you've talked about it that you were going to do it. Oh, okay, good. So we can't talk about it. I already have one, technically. I'm just getting a new one. Oh, okay. Cool. All right, well, I thought maybe that was...
Starting point is 00:54:20 What did I do? Yeah. Close your eyes. Nothing. Close your eyes. Nothing. Your eyes aren't closed close think about it for a second before you say nothing before it just i mean i dude i i already do it that's what i'm
Starting point is 00:54:34 saying i'm doing what i like to do already so the reason why i said like yes i do think twitch streaming is garbage for the most part it but there's no like higher no because here's why because i legitimately feel and i i mean this if i wasn't doing what i'm doing right now in the way that i'm doing it um i don't even know if i could get the same level of emotional fulfillment from like doing exactly what i'm doing at a higher level at like a legacy publisher interesting and i do think that um not to toot my own horn too much but i do think that a lot of the stuff that i'm doing merging like twitch streaming twitch culture all that sort of thing with like immediate like breaking news coverage or just coverage in general
Starting point is 00:55:16 and media analysis media literacy uh all of those things that i'm doing i think are are in some ways uh not exactly uh something that you can replicate and also I do think it's pretty cutting edge okay I have a question for all of you then ready have you ever heard of peering something like when you nail something it's just like perfect top to bottom you tap into the void it's awesome so i feel like have you ever appeared a stream or what stream are you most proud of oh like i can think of good streams but like i can't even think of yes you can oh please so modest like there's definitely some that are worse like if i play if i play valorant and i lose 10 games in a row, it's a little bit of a worse one.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah. I mean, there's a billion of those. Yeah. There's a billion of those though. As far as like, I think for me, I literally just play games.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Okay. Flip side. Worst stream ever. Go. One that haunts your dreams. What's that about? For those of you who don't know? Oh my God. For those of you who don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:31 There's plenty that don't. My audience is very different. TLDR, I left a, like a, you know what's, a website. I usually just call it a guitar. Stop looking at Marsh. The old guitar. I left a guitar under my bed. What was the guitar? Oh my God, she said it. The old guitar. I left the guitar under my bed. What was the guitar?
Starting point is 00:56:45 It's... Oh, my God. She said it. She said it. Wow. We should put that by the... Can we beep that? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Okay, we'll beep that out. Beep that out. So you'll have to Google for the clip. You'll have to Google for the clip. The reason is because I had a chair, like a normal... One of my viewers sent me a chair, a DX racer, and I built it. And then I was putting it on stream i was using the chair and then my chat someone said like i miss your old chair so i was like oh oh i'll switch it out
Starting point is 00:57:10 so i pull out that chair and i go with my old chair which is much thinner and then i'm like sitting on the chair and then i like look and chat and someone's like and i was like oh god but i had like i don't know 50 viewers i 80 viewers so i I was like, oh, well, no one's going to notice. I thought you were going to say you had 50 viewers. Oh, God. And then I moved my leg to cover it, and I streamed for three more hours. And then I end the stream. And then I find out that some YouTuber named Scarce picked it up, and it had two million views on it.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Oh, my God. And then all my friends heard about it. Anyways, Haunted My Dreams and then Beauty Pie covered that three years. Well, that's a good worst stream to have. That was, yeah. And you know, I embrace it fully. So that's that.
Starting point is 00:57:52 So I guess worst stream, but like in terms of like just generally bad streams. Technically, it ended up being funny. Yeah, I just embrace it now. Good thing, so it's like. What's your worst stream ever? Oh, for sure. This one stream, I was really sad and i
Starting point is 00:58:07 cried and that was the that was the worst stream ever it was during okay it was during among us but the thing i was bothered by wasn't even among us just kind of was on top of it that was probably the worst stream just because i don't like to show myself feeling bad. I want people to be happy when they show up. Yeah. That was pretty bad. I remember my worst stream. Why would you look at me like that?
Starting point is 00:58:34 It was also Among Us. I hate that game too. I know. What happened? Keep going. I was a brand new streamer. Oh, no. Russian shiny. And I was invited to my first game with OTV, and I was so excited.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Was I there? Was I there? OTV? Oh, yeah. Was I there? Oh, yeah. I was so excited. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I was pretty good at the game. Okay. I might say that I was the best imposter ever. Okay. I don't know. Okay. But I was a crewmate this round. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:06 In particular. And I watch Hasan kill someone, like, next to me. The very first round. The very first round. Oh, I see where this is going. Everyone is alive. There is one person dead. And I go, hey, everybody.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I just saw Hasan kill that person. Now, I love all those people, but I didn't have enough clout to even have a voice. Like, no one heard me. And I was like, hey, guys, Will Neff here. And everyone was just doing content. First round goes by, and no one votes. And I go, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Second round, I watch Hassan kill someone again. And I go, hey, guys round I watch Hassan kill someone again and I go hey guys I am dialed in I followed him the whole time he's killed two people I can trace his steps just talking over him like I'm not even a human being I was using that to my advantage I was literally just like no
Starting point is 01:00:01 that's not what happened beaming over me every time I talk. He's like talking louder than I am. This goes on every round until it is just Austin's show,
Starting point is 01:00:13 Hassan, and myself. Oh no. And I'm going, Austin, for the love of God, I've said this every round and Austin is still
Starting point is 01:00:23 doing content. He's like, come on guys, let's talk about this come on and Hasan is just screaming over at me just beaming over me and I finally because I know him he's my best friend
Starting point is 01:00:36 I go shut the fuck up Hasan shut the fuck up and it's not like I'm like mad at him I'm just two guys I'm trying to shut him up and I'm like shut the fuck up and it's not like i'm like mad at him i'm just two guys i'm trying to shut him up and i'm like shut the fuck up and there's this moment of silence right before i am about to speak for the first time ever in this game my first stream with otd She was dead. Will, can you please chill out?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Can we not play like this? And I go, that's it. And I vote for myself. And I go, get me out. Get me out. You all deserve to lose. I don't want to play with you. This is insane.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You're dead. And Austin's like, wait a minute, guys. And I'm like, I don't want to play anymore. I don't want to play with you. This is insane. You're dead. And Austin's like, wait a minute, guys. Like, what's happening? And I'm like, I don't want to play anymore. I don't want to play anymore. I was gaslit, gay, cute, and girl bossed. And you know what I did? You know what I did? This is also on the record.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I held on to that rage. I held on to it. OTV never invited me back for another game. They didn't. Because they literally were like. They thought I held onto it. OTV never invited me back for another game. They didn't. They thought I was a psychopath. Up until recently, and they're like, oh, Will's a sweetheart. But I held onto that rage. I held onto it. It was vindictive
Starting point is 01:01:53 until Hasan Piker got AOC on his fucking stream. And he got her on his stream, and she was playing Among Us, and everyone was like, oh, very famous politician let's be nice i gaslit the fuck out of her i killed someone right in front of her and i said oh i saw aoc kill somebody and she was like what she didn't know how to play the game and i just chewed
Starting point is 01:02:17 into her mind like a termite and i turned everybody against her and it was satisfying jesus so his origin butterfly effect she like loses her dish because of it oh god all because of this one moment oh jeez like that was so funny as soon as you said among us i knew exactly what you were gonna say is there a bot of this oh yeah yeah it was so ugly on otv thought i was like a rage monster because of this moment up until like very recently i do want to watch this yeah it was so funny was it really a bad day was like a rage monster because of this moment up until like very recently. I do want to watch this VOD back. Yeah, it was so funny. Was it really a bad stream if you made your friends so happy?
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah, it was awesome. I thought it was so funny. I thought it was so funny. The biggest group in streaming all think I was a fucking psychopath is rough. I was just cracking up the whole time. I was like, oh, he got pissed. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Oh, it was great. It was great. My best stream is January 6th. No, worse. You asked me my best first. Oh, okay. The election. My best stream was, no, no, not even the election cycle.
Starting point is 01:03:19 That was a lot. I mean, but when you said pure, when you're in the fucking zone, I mean, maybe you can attest, when you're in the fucking zone, I mean, maybe you can attest to this. You've known me for like 10 years. When I fucking turn on Go Live, like when I click start streaming, it's just like the air is sucked out. I mean, like I go into like my mind palace, and I'm just one with the content.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I'm basically dancing around. Oh, he wanted me to pick him up. Okay. Yeah. Sykuno is an IRL Disney princess because my dog only sits in my lap. Yeah, he does not like me that much, and I've known him for a long time.
Starting point is 01:03:58 He wanted me to pick him up. He was doing the thing. This is happening. Sykuno is that nice a guy. You know when animals can tell someone just... Oh, we're at an hour? Hour and 30? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:10 All right, this is... Well, you know, we can... Leslie did say I was a cat whisperer. We can talk about my... The cats were surrounding me right before we left. We can talk about my least favorite stream, Behind the Paywall. Oh!
Starting point is 01:04:24 Wow! Wait, wait, wait. To make it spicier, was it this week? stream behind the paywall. Oh. Wow. Wait, wait, wait. To make it spicier, was it this week? You'll find out on the paywall. He'll find out after the paywall. I gotta pee before we go to our next one. He'll answer that question after
Starting point is 01:04:38 he wants to go with you to the free. For the free audience, where can people find you? You're fine. You youtube.com slash twitch.tv slash buddha i'm kidding i'm kidding i love that i keep thinking that's barley walking into the wall and it's stressing me out and tycoon youtube youtube or this is uploaded where do we where do we wave thanks for watching. Yeah, behind the paywall. Anyways, I'm walking and then the other girl that was there like who was kind of like chirp chiming in like third party girl.
Starting point is 01:05:17 She sticks out her foot and tries to trip me. Did you kill her? I was livid. I like trip over her foot and I look at her and she rolls her eyes at me. Oh, we're going to talk about contracts.
Starting point is 01:05:33 So Leslie got more than $100. I did get more than... I got more than $1,000. That's a big leap. I also got more than $1,000. I got more than $10,000. Whoa, whoa. You're getting a little close
Starting point is 01:05:43 to the max right there. You're talking big money. I did get more than $10,000. That got more than $10,000. Whoa, whoa. You're getting a little closer to the max right there. You're talking big money. I did get more than $10,000. That's crazy. That's the per diem? The daily, your daily allowance.

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