Fin vs History - A Fritzlian Slip | Mozart: The Great Composers (Part 1)
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Oh!
Welcome back to Finn vs. History. I'm joined by Horatio Gould. And today we're talking about
Mozart. This is the great composers week. Classical music. We are in Austria. Is this when
doing this sort of stuff wasn't considered fruity? Classical music? Yeah, or has it always been
considered fruity. I think it's just fruinesses was considered greater back in the day. Oh, right. Yeah,
there was a great respect for fruiness. This is the, well, we're in the 18th century. This is
the fruit century. I mean, the style is maybe.
be the worst style for me, the drip. Yeah, I think the white wigs, I don't know, obviously it's
easy to judge trends. Yeah. You know, with hindsight. But I feel like I'd be looking back
at old pictures of me in my 20s. I was fucking wearing a white wig. I'm pretending to be an old lady.
You know, in the way that you like, maybe look when you have like baggy trousers. Yes. And it's
like, fuck, what was I doing that? It's so embarrassing. With my Hawaiian shirts and my bell-long shorts
thinking, God, I had pretty. I thought I was in an Elvis film. I was 10.
What was I doing?
We're in the Kanye West
those glasses,
you know, those ones?
Yeah.
I was wearing that school disc,
ah, you know.
And a massive,
massive quiff,
like slick,
but,
just cringing.
This is 18th century
Austria,
white women,
white men are black women,
they're wearing wigs,
they're powdering their face.
But I can get,
some wigs are cool,
but like old,
bad hair.
Yeah.
Like,
you're using a wig
to make yourself
have worse hair
than you already have.
But everyone also has the same wig.
Yeah.
They all,
like,
and you could be like a 19-year-old in a white wig.
It's crazy. Everyone's got white hair.
We're also in Austria, which, I mean, this is where Austria is the cultural capital
of the world. It's another, the past is another country.
It's true.
What am I meant to think, Austria, the country of Hitler, Fritzel, Schwarzenegger, Mozart,
Freud, Freud, Baumgartner. Help me out. What do you want me to do?
Yeah, make this make sense.
Who am I? Who are you? What do you? What do you want me?
to do when I come into the country?
Yeah.
Drummer to Zieg Heil.
Draw me to sing.
I'll do it.
Kissed mommy on the lips.
I'm meant to fuck my mouth.
What am I meant to do?
I meant to build a basement.
Help me out, Austria.
But this is,
this was,
I mean, some people.
Fritzel.
Fritzel and Freud.
I've never made that link.
Oh, well, you think there's a,
what, like you have a Freudian slip.
You think he had a fritzel slip.
I built up.
Oh, no.
I meant to build up and I built down.
I guess, and I fuck my sit, my daughter.
I feel like the Fritzel's basement.
It's sort of symbolic of maybe a slight,
desire to maybe have sex with your family if you read into it.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
You have to really read into what he did.
If you read into it,
I think that actually internally implies a desire.
But you can overanalyze these things.
Yeah,
it's true.
I'm probably reading into it.
Yeah.
No.
But this is probably evil.
No.
No.
Does he?
It looks like a lovely old man.
This is a normal Austrian.
That's an Austrian grandpa.
We're in the pomp of Austria.
Yeah.
The Hape,
the Hape, the Hape, the Hafto,
The Habsburgs, the Inbred Empire.
18th century.
Now, our listeners do not listen to classical music.
They listen to thrash metal.
Yeah.
They listen to...
Fuck him on repeat.
Right, yeah.
This series are talking about Mozart and Beethoven.
Their equivalents will be Marilyn Manson.
Sure.
They don't have any cultural touchstones here.
No.
They're completely...
The classical period for them is the early 2000s.
Yeah.
Blink 182.
Where are you?
That's their...
And they're like, fucking out boring playing classical music.
That's their symphony.
Do you mean this is the best sort of music to murder someone to?
Yeah, there's definitely.
depends which type of me.
We were saying before, classical music is brilliant
because you put it on your and your headphones
and you leave and it's like you're in a film.
And you could be doing anything
and it makes it seem important
or like grand...
Pooing?
You could be pooing.
Thank you for raising that so gently.
Pooing?
You could be pooing and listening to...
And it'll make it feel like you're important
and you're creating great art.
You could be beating your meat hoven.
Yes.
You could be beaten meathoven.
Yeah, it's in there.
Yeah, somewhere.
Bamfug.
Beating your meat oven.
Yeah, I've been banging a lot of Beethoven and Motz up for this series.
Oh, that's great stuff.
It's just, yeah, you're waiting for the tube.
It's raining.
Everyone's ugly.
Yeah.
And it fits somehow.
It fits, you know.
But I do think it was, we were talking about, I think lyrics have made music worse.
Okay.
This music is so it can, it's, you can read anything into.
Right.
We've got DJ Ass, ass and Tiddies.
Is this your favorite song, Charles, is it?
well what's the lyrics
I mean I guess
but you didn't this
is what if he's saying
are you saying it's because of lyrics
do you think this is the lyrics
that would have been to the songs
stop stop it stop it stop it
stop and just get the lyrics up
of Arsendiz's please what I will say
is that I think just do the lyrics
I think there have been so many lyrics now
that obviously DJ's soul
is really scraping the barrel
or because Mozart
and I mean Beethoven he did have
some choral
yes
like O to Joy but he's
taking a poem there. I think if they wrote their own lyrics, it could easily have been like
this. They never had to write their own lyrics. You know, Mozart wasn't a great lyricist.
It would necessarily. We don't know. But also, Beethoven was an incredible. We'll get to him next
episode, but he was a very, very horny man, Beethoven. So if you put lyrics on top of his music,
it probably would just be, take off your pants. Take off your pants. Take off your pants.
Let's do it. So big booty bitches, please.
Hoss titties
Hoss and titties
Us, hoss titties
Titties
Hoss and titties
Us and titties
Us and tities
Us and titties
Big booty bitches
That's wearing guess
We get the idea
So that's that's Mote's
That's Handels
That's DJ Assault's Messiah
Yeah
Is he classical or romantic
DJ Assault
He's romantic as far.
He's horny.
Art and Tissies, I think it's clearly.
Yeah, he's horny.
We're now in the horny age, I think.
I think that's the fourth period.
Yeah, he's a bridge between the romantic and the horny age.
Yes, in the way the Beethoven Bridge classical romantic,
DJ Assault has taken us from the romantic age to the horny age.
We're out of pussy.
What other songs is DJ Solter?
Nipples and Clits is my favourite.
Anyway, so we don't need to listen to nipples and clits.
I get a feeling.
I have a feeling I get the idea of what nipples and clips will be.
Right, we don't need to.
Nipples and with us.
It's like fish and chips.
Lyrics.
Yeah.
We don't need to get...
How does it go?
Nipples and clit.
I can imagine...
Nipples, nipples.
Is this on the...
Nipples, nipples, nipples, nipples.
Big titties, I'm a lick on a nipples.
Is this the same...
Took your bitch and put my dick on nipples.
This is the same album.
This is one of his earlier words.
This is a beast...
Oh, right.
So we really sold out with our...
Nipples and clits is early stuff.
Right.
Okay.
Well, we can park DJ Assault for now.
This is the long road to DJ Assaults,
Nipples and clits.
Fuck your bitches and put my dick on her.
All right.
Thank you, Charlie.
Today we're discussing
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart,
who was born in Salzburg
on January 1756.
Wolfgang Amhermos.
So to place this for our listeners,
this is after the kind of
musically, we're post green sleeves.
Yes.
Which is kind of all music was, I guess,
for about 500 years.
Pre Bach.
Yeah.
It was green sleeves.
And it was kind of religious choral stuff, right?
Yeah.
And now it's kind of getting into
So it's pre,
it's post green sleeves,
it's pre Blink 182.
Where are you?
Right, that's lovely place.
Yeah,
so that's where we are.
That's what Mozart
is the bridge
between green sleeves
and blink 182.
Mozart's pair,
Mozart is the,
is sort of the first
ever prodigy.
The most famous prodigy,
the definition of a prodigy
sort of,
it's like an Austrian stevie wonder.
Yeah.
Stefan Wunderbar.
Yes.
Yeah.
Michael Jordan,
sort of.
Now his dad is a sort of,
is a skilled violinist.
He's a composer.
And he's a,
He's a deputy conductor at the Salzburg court.
Now, this is an era where musicians were essentially salaried.
Right.
And over the course of this series, what we'll see is musicians sort of transition.
Right.
Not in the way they do nowadays.
They used to sing hymns.
They now sing they thems.
Yep.
That's good.
But they used to sing he hymns.
Nearly.
Nearly got it.
But what we'll see is that they'll transition from salaries as of employees, like
chefs.
Yeah.
to troubled artists, respected.
The most respected people in society in a way.
Yeah.
So, I mean, this has happened in most art,
is that it used to be down with the prostitutes,
bottom of the pile.
Yeah.
Literally just jesters making the wealthy dance
and now they're the most respected.
Yes.
I think it's disgrace.
But now, like, you know...
Rich people who don't work should be the most respected.
Rich people who are born into it
and have never done a day's work in their life.
I think that...
I wish you go back to that.
His mother Anna Maria is a well-liked woman from Salzburg,
if you can imagine such a thing.
Now, why is Austria such a cultural hub at this point?
It's because they have a massive empire,
but it's all landlocked and they're not getting involved overseas.
No.
The Brits are bothering.
So they've turned inward.
They've turned inward.
Melancholy.
They've built a basement and they're fucking their own.
It's what Austria does.
Yes.
It's the Fritzel complex.
Yes.
They've had a Fritzilian slip
and they fuck their daughter in a basement that they've built.
It could happen to the best of us.
Happens to any of us.
It did.
It happened to the best of us.
I meant to call my,
I meant to say teacher,
And instead of calling my teacher mummy, I've accidentally built a basement and I fuck my daughter in it.
Over 25 years.
Over 25 years.
Huge structural infrastructure project.
And I fuck my daughter and I've got a granddaughter daughter now.
Anyway, it's a little Fritzillion slip.
Now Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart is one of seven, but only he and his sister, Nan'ul.
Nan'ul survive infancy.
Because at this point, kids are...
Can she be fit if she's called Nan'Ole?
Can she be fit?
Nan'arol.
No.
Let's have a gander at Nan Earl Mozart
It's not like, oh my God
Nan Earl
Um
Not bad
I mean of course
You brought your dick in her nipples
You put your dick on her nipples
Yes but that doesn't
You put your dick on her nipples
What is that saying?
Like the dog see the rabbit
Put your dick in the nipples
Nan-ar
Not quite as poetic
She looks like Marge Simpson with grey hair
Yeah
I mean again
The worst lids
The bonsers at this point
Are not good
But if you sent Lisa Anne back to that time
Would everyone just be like
No, no.
Or would they be like, you're, you're Fugly?
I think, I think they'd say you're Fugly.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Because I mean that it didn't fit the, the time.
But can you imagine that people have come to see Mozart do an opera
and instead they see Lisa Rann conducting ass and titties in the opera house?
She's conducting.
Yeah.
With what?
Her tits.
With her ass.
Ass and titties.
And then she does her ass as well.
She could have two orchestras.
Yeah.
She's twerking, one, that could be the sort of like, I don't know,
The kettle drums.
When you're flying Emirates business class,
sipping your favorite cocktail at our onboard lounge,
you'll see that your vacation isn't really over
until your flight is over.
Fly Emirates, fly better.
But Leopold is like the original tiger mum.
Sorry, I bet there's going to be a play called Nan Arrell
about how the real Mozart was Nan Aral,
but it was sexism that stopped.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, and we can't enjoy Mozart's music.
It's actually, yeah.
Structly impressive.
She was actually better than him.
And it's probably Picasso's fault as well, is it?
Yeah, it probably is.
Probably. Oh, are we all pedos now?
Is that what you take away?
Yeah, that's what?
That's what I.
You're looking at Gernica.
Oh, so I'm a pido as well, am I?
Oh, am I?
Right, okay, then.
Is that what you're telling me?
Fair enough.
Fine.
No, we didn't know not say that.
Fine.
No.
Well, if that's what you're saying, I might as well be one.
Lock me up.
Guilty.
Who am I here to me?
Who am I here to meet?
Carpath.
That would be very funny.
To go to an Azte Carpot going,
Who am I here to meet then?
Come on.
Come on, then.
Who is it?
Which one of you am I here to meet?
I'm here to meet someone.
I'm going away for a long time.
Self-identifying fetid on an Azte-carbord.
But it's sort of split personality
because you're half-pedo hunter, half-pedo.
Like severance?
Yeah.
Half vigilante.
I'm going away for a long, long time.
doctors are like, this is an extraordinary case of schizophrenic.
I've never seen split personality like this.
Boardline Pido disorder.
This is incredible.
Half of him is a Pido vigilante
and the other half is a Pido.
He's in a car park arresting himself.
Snake eat his tail.
Pito eating his tail.
Come on then.
I didn't know.
I thought she was 18.
I'm not buying it, lad.
Well, anyway, Mozart.
Yeah, so Leopold, his dad,
he's like a dad shouting on the sidelines of a football game.
Maybe the ultimate dad shouting on the sidelines.
He's like a tiger mother.
sort of...
But he's on the sidelines
of an orchestra
practice guy
come on!
Oh, fuck!
Sigmadier Madias!
Fuck!
So he saw
Wolfgang's talents
as a divine gift
to be used
for the family's advancement.
He said,
quote,
A miracle which God let be born
in Salzburg.
That's what I call
Joseph Fritzel.
Now, Mozart,
I mean,
he's such a fucking boff.
Right.
Age three,
he's playing the harpsichord.
He's composing by five.
A freak.
Complete freak.
In China,
they would have
chucked him down
the stairs.
Yes.
Anyway, he begins
playing the harp
scored at three.
Age six,
he writes a concerto
movement that is so
difficult his father
doubts that
anyone could play it
until he sees
his six-year-old
son,
his son sit down
and play it.
I mean, he's
screaming to be wedged
at school,
isn't it?
This guy
needed to be wedges.
He's yelling it
from the rooftops.
Please wedge me.
He also,
he writes this
thing that had been
like a carefully
guarded secret in the
Vatican,
this piece called
Allegri Miserie. He hears it twice and then
transcribes the entire piece from memory age 14
which effectively ends the Vatican's control over the work
so I mean he's just a sort of insane genius
Yeah, annoying little fucker
I mean imagine going to school with this cunt
Yeah. Did you play the instruments at school?
Yes, piano. Piano. Yeah.
And you good? No. No. I did try quite hard
But I played double bass
And yes I did spin it and it was cool
I'd spun it at the concert
But you were sort of whining ponder double bass
I was standing up, yeah, I had a little stool.
But were you like, I'm in love with the shape of you?
No, I wasn't.
But I was going after women that were shaped like double bass.
The perfect shape.
Were you trying to spin them?
I was spinning, yeah.
I was, I would spin the double base and it spike at the end.
What does double base sound like?
It's like a deep cello.
All right, right.
It looked like I was playing a cello, but I was just so big compared to the double bass that proportionally it sort of worked.
Yeah, I had to lug it around.
We had to get in a state car so I could drive, you know,
It's a fucking nightmare.
But,
no,
I played,
I played it all bass.
What made you pick the double bass?
I think I was,
just,
I was massive and someone had to pick it.
Right, right.
Someone had to do it.
So it's like playing in goal.
I have to see,
my fingers would do fat,
just would do cello.
Yeah,
I was the orchestra,
I was playing a goal of the orchestra.
That's what it was.
But yeah,
I would sort of be wearing Elvis Hawaiian shirt,
spinning the bass.
Right, right.
Right.
A lot going on.
There's a lot going on.
It's a lot going on.
It's mince pie era,
you know,
wasn't happy.
Now,
Mozart was also an ill child.
Yes.
Everyone in this story seems to be ill.
Everyone's fucked.
It seems like, yeah.
It's not a healthy time.
18th century Austria is not a healthy time.
It's not a health kick.
It's not a human.
No.
Huberman's not about at this point.
After performing at Schoenabrum in October 1762, he falls ill with scarlet fever.
It's funny.
They seem to have no theory just to why people are getting ill.
That seems to be a thing.
Well, this is around the time of Captain Cook getting everyone to eat kimchi.
Yes.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Was it kimchi?
It was not kimchi.
It wasn't famously.
It wasn't kimchi.
Sorry.
So the early illness has foreshadowed a lifetime of precarious health.
They go on this massive tour and he doesn't grow at all for the three and a half years that they're on tour.
He's like messy.
So he ends up being five foot three.
Yeah, he is messy.
He's in Messina.
Now they're on this grand tour between while he's between five and six.
I mean, my daughter is four.
What's got?
What's got sort of skills she shows?
She can put, she started putting stickers on the TV.
And I can't get them off.
So now we're trying to watch a P. Diddy documentary
and there's a fucking pepper pig sticker over his face.
I don't know if you can tour with that.
No.
No.
Well, it's vandalism, isn't it?
If you're outside our house, it's illegal.
I don't know if you'd get the courts of Europe coming to see that.
And now these tours, the grand tours, they are designed by his dad to secure income
an aristocratic favour.
So in 763, they hit Munich, Stuttgart, Frankfurt.
Then the Austrian Netherlands.
Right.
My word, what's going on over there.
I can't think
At this point
they control
the Netherlands
Austria.
Bizar.
The Torres
are the Austrian
Netherlands.
So I guess
what's that
the red light
district
but it's
underground
and then you're all
related to them?
I think so
well it's like
that story
of the dad
in the glory hall
That's exactly
what the Austrian
Netherlands.
Let's do that again.
I went to
the guy went
on the
stagdo
to Amsterdam
and the bride
sucked off
her dad?
She sucked
off a random cock
And it turned out with her dad
Yeah
Kind of the perfect crime though
If you
It's like
Is it?
I think of more
Perfect crimes
Would be not doing that
That was perfect
Because
Got away with it
A perfect crime
Is getting away with it
Yeah
You got away with sucking
If you didn't want to
No
No
Why did you put
Didn't want to
In air quotes
I mean okay
No one saw that
Or heard that
But he went
You didn't want
To be
I didn't want to suck on my dad
Yeah
If you did want to suck
Off your dad
It is the perfect
crime if you did want to suck off your dad to be fair to charlotte i think the fact that she's traumatized
and the marriage broke down immediately i think we can safely say that she did not want to suck off
her dad that's perfect who's dick is that then let's let's press the button and reveal oh it's dad
oh ideal i was hoping for that outcome is there is there is there a button reveal at these
places that's what it is that's what the story is that it's a it's a it's a it's a two-way mirror or
whatever or it's like a it's black and you both press a button if you want to see was on the
other side and they did it so it's like dark to the stars it's the voice is the voice yeah come in my
mouth perfect crime yeah so that's the austrian netherlands yeah anyway that's dealt with done yeah
so in april 1764 the final leg of the tour mozart comes to england yeah he performs for george
the third this is the beginning of touring really yeah this is no one really was touring like this
before but also i think and i it's just like is it before this that he hops in the lap of the um
Austrian empress is
the Austrian empress
and everyone's like
oh my God
he's broken a protocol
and she finds it cute
because Mozart is
throughout his personality
is very like
childish
childish childlike
and he stayed
and obviously when he's a kid
that's fair enough
but he never grows out of it
and so he basically
now like nowadays
he'd be a guy that's like
he'd be that guy
he's a true
like outside of the music
he seems to be a bit of an idiot
yeah he'd have ADHD
yeah definitely
whee-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h. He's that guy who's a bit like Charlie who
you ask him to do something and he goes, yeah? He says, he speaks in orgasm noises and you're like,
can you not do that? What he'd do is he'd be really brain-rotted now. Yeah.
He'd be just making loads of like, just from TikTok, so just be constantly.
Do you want a cup of tea, Mozart? Yeah. Yeah. He'd be that guy. Anyway, he meets
Bach's son, Johann Christian Bach, who's astonished by his talent. He composes his first
symphony aged eight in London.
Now, meanwhile, his dad is bedbed him with a severe throat infection, and believing he was
dying, he got, didn't commit to that.
Just a little subtle one.
Now, believing he was dying, he wrote to his friend, quote, prepare your heart to hear
one of the saddest events.
So his dad's a prick as well, as we could say.
He runs in the family.
He comes back from London.
Now, Nanarl nearly dies.
Yeah.
Weeks of fever for Wolfgang.
They're just always sick at this point.
point. But they finally returned to Salzburg in 1766. He goes to Vienna, which is the cultural
capital of the time. He gets smallpox in 67. And yet after recovering age 12 now, he receives
a prestigious commission to write an opera. And he writes the feigned simpleton. We've got a feigned
simpleton right here. We do. Which has performed in 1768. But rehearsals for the part. What did you
say? You just said feigned. What's feigned?
Well, I mean, that's absolutely perfect.
True ignorance does not know itself
Yeah, but I guess you're not
A feigned, he's not a feigned, he's not a feigned
No, you're not pretending
You're not pretending, I'm real, yeah, I'm authentic
You're a feigned, feign simpleton
Now rehearsals for the feigned Symbolton fall apart
Because the orchestra resent being led by a child
Fair enough
Which is fair enough
Sorry, Greta Thumburg telling you to recycle
Yeah, fuck off, love
Why don't you have a kid
Do you see how many fucking nappies they are
They need? Oh, are you gonna do cloth nappies
Are you gonna be dipping shit stuff?
cloth in a big pot on a hob, are you?
I don't know.
No.
The listeners want to hear about Mozart.
They're desperate.
We are getting a few comments saying, like, maybe start the history earlier.
I'm trying.
Maybe fuck off.
We're also definitely fuck off.
Now, in December 1769, Mozart is age 13 and his father embarks on a three and a half
year tour of Italy, which is the centre of opera, which is like high art at this point.
Is he posting on his Instagram, his tour date?
It must be.
I don't know if people are really doing anything like this.
I mean, who's the last, sort of recent young prodigy?
How old was Justin Bieber when he broke through, 15, 16?
Younger, maybe.
He's gone a bit geyser mode now, though, Justin Bieber.
Sort of, yeah, sort of.
It's more just, like, traumatised celebrity.
I don't know if he's geeseer.
No, it's like hard, but he dresses like hard.
He's like prison break style.
But for me, I don't feel he, that's not hard.
It's more like, I've been through some shit.
He's got those, I've been through some shit tattoos.
His father and all killed a woman.
Did he?
Alec Baldwin?
Of course.
Mozart composes seven symphonies
in 1772 alone
Now I feel like Charlie
Could you just get a chat GPT?
Let's just define
For the thick fat listeners
Who mainly spend their live
Listen to thrash metal
And like what's that finished
Death Metal band with the
Oh fucking
Erasmus
Erasmus
They listen to Erasmus a lot
This
What's a symphony
What's a concerto
A symphony is that they get
A monster munch
Yeah
They get a monster
That is the thrash metal
That's a symphony.
And they're playing all at once.
You know, you're not in Ratatouille
where he's having the grape and the cheese
and it's like all coming together.
That's what they're doing
with the pickled onion monster is one note.
Monster mango,
mango crush, whatever.
Fucking ass blast.
Ass blast.
Pickle onion monster munch.
Mum's saying dinner time,
fuck off, mom!
And it all comes together.
So that's a way of understanding
what a symphony is.
Yeah.
Whereas a concerto would be like a lead instrument,
you know, a violin concert or a cello
concert or whatever.
So, yeah.
Symphony is for the whole orchestra.
So there's no big leading instrument.
No, so it's a very complex thing to wrangle all these different elements, wood, brass
strings, et cetera.
It's just a big concert, in it?
You just think it's a concert, Italian?
Big concert.
Big concert.
Right.
Now, he returns to Salzburg in 1773 for his teenage years.
Now, they're musically fruitful, but personally restless.
Right.
He composes symphony number 25 in G minor.
he struggles with the constraints of Salzburg
and the rigid control of his father
he wants independence which is again
it's not the done thing for a musician
musicians at this point are just playing
for the emperor
you're sort of attached to a court
yeah you're like a chef who's just
who's got a catering job and you want to set up your own restaurant
right right now at this time we should say
he was also noticing girls
experiencing romantic impulses
and there were people who were not doing this
in the classical music world castrassi
Yes. Now, these are eunuchs whose voices were preserved through pre-puberty castration.
My name is Jeff.
That sort of, but that forever.
Forever.
Yeah.
Hello.
I am I'm 48 years old.
Yeah.
This practice begins in 16th century Italy.
Obviously, it starts in Italy.
Yeah.
And it produces singers with exceptionally high, powerful voices with a massive lung capacity.
You're amazing.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
It's now legal.
Did they speak like this the whole time then?
Yeah.
Well, they're like eight-year-old guys
who were like this?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
They all hang out.
But why do we talk low
because we got balls?
What,
where is what's going on?
I think,
I don't think it's because
I think your voice drops
and your,
and your,
and you're testosterone probably.
Right.
So if you cut off one of your balls,
you get a bit higher.
No,
that's not,
it's a little bit like this.
You don't,
shave off a chunk.
If you lose a ball
for a testicular cancer,
you don't start talking like this
and then you lose your other one
you go all the way up like that.
I wish you did.
No,
I don't think you do.
And similarly,
if you're doing an appeal,
if you add balls in,
your balls for lumps,
this is a serious issue.
Yeah.
To be taken seriously.
Yeah.
Please check your balls.
And if you could spare a ball,
then I'm like this,
actually, I sound like this, actually.
I'm not right.
Oh, fucking brilliant.
Cheers for the bulls, love.
Sort of me out.
Yeah, that's not how it works.
I think the balls.
Or if you have like five balls,
you swing like this.
You're right.
Yeah, I was born with six fucking balls.
so I speak like this
I'm six years old
They weren't cutting men's balls off
And then giving them to other people
To create this greedy little
You're bringing me to give me his balls
No no
They weren't creating really deep voices
With more balls
I must stress that
It'd be amazing if you could like
customize it though
Like a 10 ball boy
Yeah
You're always like
You haven't on a damn anymore
How old is it?
How old is it? He's like five years old
Four and a half
Amazing
Barry White had six balls
Anyway
Now, surgeons would perform this secretly
and fabricate stories about accidents
to justify it to their parents
The accidents could be like falling off a horse
Or wild pigs or geese
Had attacked them and gobbled their testicles up
I'm so sorry
It was the wild geese
You know the geese
You know you try to feed the geese
And they knobble your testicle
I know
Sorry it was it the whale
Get that goose away
Get that go out
Oh no! Oh no!
Oh no! So let's just go through the process
for our male listeners,
this will be especially painful.
Surgeons soaked the boys in a warm bath
to soften up their tissues.
Lovely warm bath.
We're enjoying it so far.
Next, they knock them out with opium.
Okay, still not too bad.
Or strangle them until they pass out.
Prefer the first one.
Then the surgeons had a fork in the road.
So I'm on opium, I'm in a bath.
I'm having a brilliant time.
Well, I guess they had three before
and you could just shove a fork in it.
They cut out their testicles completely
or they snip the blood vessels
that supply the testes,
which the testes would wither away naturally.
Right.
And the physical effects of castration
Is that way naturally, does that mean you have an empty ball bag?
Like a kind of old grape.
I think it's like dried fruit.
Is it like a bag for life, an empty bag for life just flapping around down there?
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.
Right.
If you were frustrated, right, you became unusually tall because of unfused growth plates.
So I guess it means you're tall, but you looks a bit weird.
Hello.
Can you, yeah.
You must obey me.
Hello.
Can you Google, can you, Charlie, can you Google?
Break it up, guys.
Break it up.
Don't make me come over.
there can you google alessandro maresci who was the last castrarty who died in 2022 um so they they also
they had smooth smooth useful faces no adam's apple no body hair uh and a tendency toward extra fat
and breast development he looks like kind of he could be a lady librarian could castrati ejaculate
i think you can i just think it's like well maybe not it's really high pitched yeah oh oh yeah
you're more high pitch than that were able to have sex but that was because of incomplete
castration.
Right.
They could still
experience
erections and
orgasms.
So they could still
do it all.
But they couldn't
bus.
Yeah.
They couldn't
sblood.
Imagine how emotional.
They couldn't chuck ropes.
They weren't
shooting ropes.
That final spooge
must have been so emotional
though.
So you're saying goodbye.
No, but it's pre-spluge.
You've got a catch
pre-spluge.
They should let them have one.
No, because then
if they can spooge,
it's too late, you've missed the bus.
Wait, what, what age are you?
Miss the bus.
What age are you, the spooge?
What age are you sniffing?
Pre-puberty, 12, 13
Okay, so you might be able to get
once blue gin then
Charlie, can you find some castratti music
I want to hear
because the good thing
It sounds like, it's a nice word for a horrible thing
Castrati
Fucking hell
That's a bloat
That's a geese
It's like a child with an amazing lung capacity
It's kind of amazing, isn't it?
We should bring it back
And it's all of it
Well, do you know what the good thing was?
It's like for Agua
It kept women out of music
Right
Chop his balls off
you have a sit down love yeah we can do this we don't need you yeah yeah it's like our
women's now so they don't need men because they can fucking yeah in yeah well fuck off then well we can
castrati him i'm gonna cut my balls off yeah it's my girlfriend as well yeah well well what
yeah no we don't need them don't need them yeah now mozart's love life he meets a woman
called alieza veber oh and he tells his dad he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna be like fuck off
i'm not going to um not going to italy i'm going Paris and his dad gets all angry
and then he goes to Paris with his mom
and his mom
as, you know, fair enough
to seize Paris and just dies
but this marks a huge
psychological shift in him. He gets all sad
Right. He's a little impish mummy's boy
Yeah. Does his music change?
Because his mother had been I guess the only one
that was like, you know what, you're not an annoying prick.
Right. So the big moment in his life, right,
is when he comes back to Salzburg after his mum's dead
and the relationship with his dad is getting tense
because his dad's got a big ego as well
and his dad's like a failed musician
and he's living vicariously through his son
but it's the first time that son's ever been able
to possibly break out of the whole salary nature of music
right and his dad's completely milking him for cash
and he's been like linked to all the money
in 1772 Archbishop Sigismund dies
and I guess that was like his patron
and Count Hieronymus Colorado
it comes to power and he views Mozart not as a prodigy
but as like a purely an employee.
And this kind of tension breaks
in 1781
during a visit to Vienna
where Mozart refuses
the humiliation
of the Archbishop
and challenges him
and then resigns.
And then he just fucks off
back to Vienna
and this is the first time
that anyone ever went freelance basically.
Okay.
So he's the first remote worker?
Yeah.
He goes, I'm going,
fuck you, dad.
Yeah.
Fuck you, Archbishop.
I'm going to support myself
by teaching,
composing and attracting
wealthy patrons, which is kind of the opposite
of what we do. Right, so the long line to freelance.
Charlie, you're a freelancer. Is he just like
working for him with his, like, he's just playing
piano with his fucking pants on?
Yeah, I guess maybe he's not remote work. He's a freelancer.
Remote worker would make no sense.
He's attracting... He's just shaking the mouse.
He's just shaking the keyboard. In this day of age, you had like
wealthy people would pay
money, a lot of money
to one person, whereas we get
thick, fat, poor people
to give us three pounds a month. And
And there are deeply, there are patrons.
So our patron is a hive mind, right?
Yes.
As opposed to one rich person, it's a hive mind.
It's a mass of zombies.
Of cattle, essentially.
Yeah.
Sorry, we need to respect our patrons.
Yeah.
We are one hive mind.
We all think the same.
For three pounds a month, you can also join our club.
Yeah.
And become part of the hive mind of cattle that tell their mum to fuck off.
Yeah.
um so he marries uh constance don't know who she is anyway marries her in 1782 that they actually
they they they love each other i think okay and they and they and they he's getting a lot of um
and they fuck he's getting a lot of pussy on on the way right because he's a well he's a proper
he's the first time that you know some like a famous musician who's not just a because
before this they were kind of kept out of sight they were like just for the king and the nobles
yeah but he's such a prodigy that he's famous he's famous and so he must be gnashing uh fat
batty, right?
Sorry?
He must be gnashing fat batty.
Now, he was charismatic, childish, and he had many traits that women found enchanting
like jumping on tables and meowing at them.
I mean...
No, it's a mystery.
He seems like a complete...
Female sexuality is a mystery.
It is.
I mean, the female orgasm, which I don't believe in, but supposedly they only discovered that
around 1983.
Yeah, I think it was in the 80s.
Before this.
Thatcher's in power before women start fiddling with their bits.
Disgusting
Stop messing about down there
Stop fiddling
Stop fiddling down there
What are you doing?
You've got a family to raise
This house is filthy
Now he was incredibly
And this is amazing
People will be staggered by this
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He had an insanely scatological sense of humour.
What does scathological actually mean?
Poopi.
Really?
Poopological.
It seems way too, I don't noble a term for being into poo jokes.
scatological.
Yes.
I'm a scatologist.
It seems a little bit too.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, Charlie is a scatologist, I'd say.
Now, he wrote letters to people saying that he wished they would shit the bed.
Yeah.
He couldn't believe, but you think it's so funny.
Because to be honest, that's what they say about fame, right?
Yeah.
You get frozen in the age, you become famous.
Yes, Aspec.
Yeah.
What's that?
That's like a way of freedom stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and he became famous at like six years old.
I guess it's like Michael Jackson.
Yeah?
In a way.
Justin.
But you get, mentally, you get frozen.
Stunted, yeah.
I'm just sleeping in a bed with another,
you know, it's just a sleepover.
Yeah.
There's nothing wrong with this.
Yeah.
Michael, you built a theme park to attract boys to sleep in your bed.
It is the most highly complex system of paedophilia.
How could I be a peanut?
I've got a pet monkey.
I'm not a pet monkey.
I'm not a weird.
Yeah, I'm not a weird.
Yeah, I'm not a weird though.
I got a fucking, yeah.
He's called bubbles.
Yes.
Now, he wrote, let, he made lots of jokes about farts,
asks as an excrement, and he even composed.
a canon in 1782 called Leckmich in Arche,
which literally means lick me in the arse.
Now, Charlie...
Have you ever legged in my ars?
This would be a good moment, I think,
because now there's a big rest of history,
one of their podcasts.
They were at the Royal Albert Hall
and they had an entire orchestra
and they did episodes about Mozart and Beethoven,
as we are doing.
And they would then throw to the orchestra
to play the pieces of their life
with the newfound context
they'd learned in the episode.
I mean, anything they could do,
we can do better.
That's what I think.
Now, we don't have the rights to the music necessarily.
So what we've got is Charlie's got a keyboard.
Now, Charlie, could you just play, to the best of your ability?
From listen.
You listen, one listen, right?
A little quick listen.
So it's like Mozart.
Motocite would hear a song.
I only need to hear one.
Okay, fine.
So just play a bit of lick me humash.
So it's sort of a choral ode to rimming, really.
Let me hum harsh.
Let me emmarsh.
Okay, right.
So we've got that, Charlie, that's in the head.
Okay, so this is Mozart's Lick Me Himache, as performed by producer Charlie.
Lick my ass nicely, lick it nice and clean.
Come on, just try it and lick, lick.
Right.
Thank you, Charlie.
Right, that was lovely.
Yeah, lovely.
Well done.
So that was lick me, him.
Marsh by
by Mozart
We will be
We will be throwing back to Charlie
For the most significant pieces
in Mozart's life
Like lick me in the ass
In English
It sounds a little bit pathetic
Like lick me in the ass
But lick me emarsh
Leck me imash
It sounds commanding
Well it's Austrian isn't it
It's a Fritzillion slip
It makes me want to do it
But this by the way
In the 18th century
Scatological humour
Was mainstream
In Germany there was a character
called Hans first
Which translates as Johnny Suss
sausage and he entertained the audience by pretending to eat large objects and defecating them out
large and unlikely objects so like a piano and then he do a big big big poopy piano i don't know
i mean we're i mean we're in a long history of scatters of humor this hot this episode has been
absolute filth this is we cannot look down at this at all this is 2025's johnny sausage
right that's it's funny it's funny that we're looking at mozart and we don't really have any
link to mozart but johnny sausage we're like well this is this is the line where we're
You tug on that thread hard enough, you get us.
So, I mean, that's pretty good bit.
If someone ate a piano and he's shut out like a...
But this is German humor.
Yeah, it's true.
They do love.
Do you remember when we went to...
We did an ad, which we could probably say...
We did like an ad for Yeagermeister out in Berlin.
Yeah, and whenever we just did anything about...
And one joke was, um, we were just...
Finn kept using a pen to draw dicks, right?
Yeah.
And then the cameraman, who's one of the only Germans on set, by the way.
Yeah.
They're mainly Brits out there.
this like proper German big blonde hair
he came up and he's like
this is very humorous
so funny
so funny
and then he got the
can I have these
he got the
the ditch we're drawn
and he said
can you sign these please
and we're like oh really
they're for my daughter
oh your daughter's a fan
no no no
she just likes dick drawing
she just wants to be
into presence of genius
it's crazy
what was so fascinating
there is that
he didn't know who he were
his daughter didn't know who we are
but he saw us draw
dicks
it was like we were famous
for dick drawing
And so he wanted a signed copy
Because of us as dick
These guys must be so funny
Because how have you done that?
That's unbelievable
Wow
So humorous
So funny
Now Mozart wrote letters to his cousin
Who was possibly love interest
1777 November the 5th
Quote
I shit on your nose
So it runs down your chin
Right
This is the man that gave us
Yeah
Modern you know
Is the godfather of music
He's a bit like messy
And he's like you know
It's like footballers
they're not great break
they can be geniuses
yes
but they're maybe
talk about their genius
yeah postmatch
how do you feel
went
oh I'll just like
I had chips
I had chips last night
I've got
so Mozart
so Mozart achievers
his greatest professional
success during the late
1780s
right because he's
gone freelance
he's got waves
of financial prosperity
he writes
the marriage of
Figuero
and symphony
number 40
in G minor
this is the big one
Charlie can we
just play a bit
of symphony
number 40
then we'll get you to recreate it, okay?
Because that's sort of one of his masterpieces,
which everyone would recognise.
It's simply number 40 in G minor.
Oh, yeah.
As the shit rolls down your chin.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, all the big ones, you do,
they're just built into your conscience.
Right, so we don't know if we've got the right.
Yeah, that's perfect.
Just give us a little go of this.
Do-da-da-la-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-ha-da-ha-da-ha-da-da-d-l-d-l-le- Can you get the rhythm?
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, brilliant.
So that's one of its greatest work, really, as Charlie just played.
You should bow and say thank you.
Thank you.
That's symphony number 40 in G minor.
But he's also, during this peak era, he's spending money,
rapidly.
Right.
Fashionable clothes,
expensive apartments,
servants.
Now the French Revolution
happens in 1789,
which suddenly
means that Europe
is torn apart.
Gary Stevenson's.
Gary Stevenson has taken
over the Bastille.
He's in terrible clothes.
Yeah.
And he's going,
well, I'm actually the richest
traders has ever been.
Yeah.
I understand it better.
And no,
I don't want to give my money away.
I want you to give your money away,
actually.
He reduced,
this means that there's not really
any rich people to
give money for music.
So he starts to,
his finances are impacted by this.
And then we get to the,
one of the most haunting things about Mozart
is the Requiem,
he wrote in 1791,
which is obviously,
this is what Amadeus plays up,
this whole,
this whole rivalry,
as this guy, Salieri.
Yes.
Have you seen Amadeus?
I haven't seen that other things.
It's very funny,
the way they portray Mozart is this idiot.
But Salieri is,
The whole thing is kind of a myth.
It's not really true.
But the myth goes that Salieri was not,
he was the capill.
He was a salaried court.
He's the capillmeister.
Yeah.
The imperial court.
Codmaster.
Yeah.
And he thought Mozart was his rival and he was kind of bitter because
Mozart was getting all this praise.
And so the rumor goes that this random person commissions Mozart to write a requiem.
Yeah.
Which is something you write for when people have died.
Oh, right.
And Mozart then.
is poisoned by Salieri
during the writing of it.
Oh, so it's a requiem for his own death?
Well, so even, it doesn't matter how he dies.
I mean, he didn't, he wasn't poisoned.
I think he dies of kidney failure or something.
But he, the legend goes,
he's convicted by a stranger,
commissioned him to write a funeral mass.
In his illness,
he becomes convinced that the mass
is for his own funeral.
And so he also finishes the magic flute
during the same point
because he's been commissioned for a,
been commissioned for an emperor,
but he's going insane.
It's ADHD, he's not sleeping,
two or three weeks,
like composing it all,
not eating,
he's not looking after himself,
he's ill.
He composes most of the Requiem
by himself,
but then he dies before finishing it.
He dies on the 5th December 1791,
and it is pretty haunted.
His head fell on the piano,
and that's still in the...
That's to the end of the piece.
But I just would like Charlie to...
It is one of the most haunting pieces of music,
the lacrimosa.
Of course, lacromosa, yeah, yeah.
it is so and also when you have the myth of him dying and him going mad thinking that this was his own death
the reflection he's been he's been pooping and farting his whole way through but now he finally
this is generally unironically an incredible piece of music this is so sad and haunting
that you know the great the history's greatest musical talent is writing his own funeral piece
it feels like it's almost rising to heaven yeah okay so the clown's open
now we don't have the rights Charlie can you carry that on with the on your piano please
you've listened to it you got it so yes this is Mozart's mythic requiem the diazere the
lacrimosa it's charlie la carte mosa la carloza it's charlie la la cremosso la
Lovely Somo
So is it a song about
Having a Somosan
Realized how great smote's lot
You've got a food poison
From the Petitation
Dodgy Samozo
Dodgy Samoza
The Dorse Somosa
A terrible chicken booner
Okay.
Right.
I think we got it.
Yeah.
So Mozart has a dodgy curry
is 1791.
Yeah.
Writes this haunting song
about a bad Somosa he had.
And tragically dies in 1791.
And he was not poisoned.
Well, he was poisoned by the dodgy prawnia.
Sure.
But Salieri did not kill him.
Yeah.
And there's this myth that is invented
by the Russian writer Pushkin
that basically he frames Salieri and Mozart
as these great rivals.
and it was probably rheumatic fever that he died
and there's this myth that he was buried in a common grave
because he was like poor and no one cared about him
but...
Like a Van Gogh sort of situation.
This was actually customary for the Viennese middle class citizens
under the health reforms of the Emperor Joseph II.
It's a bit of a disappointing end there
because it feels like he should have a...
I think Beethoven's got a big...
Well, we'll see it with Beethoven.
They go big.
Beethoven is more of the rock star.
Right.
Because Mozart...
He died age 35, which is very...
What's Beethoven more of a rock star than Mozart?
Yeah.
He looks cooler.
No, I know.
I absolutely love Beethoven.
His story's fucking mental.
Beethoven's in the next episode.
But I thought Mozart was more respected in his life than Beethoven.
Beethoven.
Beethoven follows in the footsteps of Mozart.
Mozart's the first person to be like a musician with fans.
And then fanaticism increases during Beethoven's time.
Right.
So he invents fandom.
Yeah, Mozart's the first like individual musician who's famous.
but the first sort of...
As for modernity rolls on, it can get more...
Yeah, exactly.
Similar to what we know fandom to be.
So it's in like, Motot doesn't have a funeral...
Well, I think he does have a big funeral.
People are very sad.
Yeah.
But they're ready...
When Beethoven dies, they're ready for it.
And they have a massive funeral.
They don't know how to deal with burying stars, basically.
Beethoven's like Churchill's funeral, or Elvis's funeral.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
It's basically a black funeral.
People throw themselves on the floor, wailing.
Oh, my God, Charlie, have you seen...
There's a clear.
my wife showed me this
it's black toddlers having tantrums
and people have put on
spiritual gospel music over it
and it matches so
so well
toddlers
this is a great way to end the episode
on Mozart's life
it is so funny
putting praise break music
over videos of my baby
having a tantrum
it fits perfectly
Yeah, that is amazing.
Anyway, sorry.
That's a very good wormhole you can go, Dan.
Got me through this weekend.
I remember my kids would be an absolute twats.
Anyway, phrenologists dug up Mozart's skull
because they wanted to try and find the music button.
Oh, that's, I mean, it makes sense.
It does make sense.
You know, if it's a 1700s, I'll be looking for the music button.
This guy's got an unusually large music button.
Weirdly, right next to the paedophile button.
Very close.
It was a whisker away.
An absolute whisker.
You know, to be honest, it's like Mozart and Fritzel.
It's a button away, isn't it?
Well, this is, I would love to phrologize the entirety of the Austrian population
because what is going on there?
Yeah.
Very confusing country.
But then, again, it doesn't it fit that the greatest music, you?
You know,
Freud was talking about the buttons,
wasn't he.
Yeah.
He wasn't talking about the buttons.
Freud's a big friend again.
Well, yeah,
Mozart is,
he implies that Mozart's playing.
He's playing Freud again
with people's heads.
You want to fuck your mom.
You want to fuck your mom.
You want to fuck your mom.
We should make a Freud again.
Loop pedal.
Genius, genus, genius,
genius, penis,
penis, penis,
penis penis,
yeah.
Anyway,
but doesn't it make complete sense
that the greatest musical
prodig of all human history
also, because he's Austrian,
writes a song called Look Me in the Ass
I mean it's just the Austrian mindset
He's Austrian for a second
Exactly that's my point
Is that you can take the man out of Austria
You can't take the fucked up
Pido basement digging
Hitler guy out of the genius
So Mozart's legacy
He produces over 600 works
He reshapes the future of symphonic music
Opera chamber music
And he remains history's greatest prodigy
I was interesting about his life
Is no matter what personal ups and downs he has
because all these great composers
all seem to struggle with their love life
his work stays completely consistent
unlike Beethoven who it's up and down
stuff there's a lot of you go
but Mozart is basically from the word go
it's just brilliant the whole way
and it's perfect
you know we'll see with the difference
with him and Beethoven is a lot more
maybe like it conjures more like
dark emotions than you but Mozart's like
everything's right with the world right
yeah it's like it's heavenly
it's joyous technically perfect
as you can be really is it like a Messi-Rinado thing
where like some people think one is the goat
versus the other. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Because actually, to get into it, what, what,
so my mum was a, is a,
could have been a classical, yeah,
concert pianist. Yeah, my dad's a pitiful.
She can't, can't play the piano.
No, she can. Um, uh,
she was a music therapist for a bit,
but she was telling me that basically Beethoven's,
Beethoven is actually changed everything.
Beethoven's actually the goat.
He's my goat.
Mozart perfected music as it was then.
and it's like all perfect
but what Beethoven did
essentially
he brought a new agent
yeah ushers in
the entirety of modern music
he got usher involved
Beethoven's fifth
usher's involved
in this club
in this club
yeah
so we'll meet usher
in our next story
it's a long road to usher
yeah so Mozart
kind of perfects music
and then Beethoven
smashes it and starts again
and he's also
a complete in cell
yeah he's mad
yeah anyway we in our next episode we will deal with ludwig van beethoven the music of war
and on our patron this week we will be dealing with uh wagner my favorite hitler's favorite takes
bet over and really runs with it yeah yeah uh the man the man who's music you can't play in israel
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