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Welcome back to Finn versus history.
I'm here with the ratio Gould.
This is part three on our Totemic series, definitive series, on Dunkirk.
Comprehensive.
The original Brexit.
This is Britain's defining moment.
Well, this is what.
Brexiteers think Brexit is, right?
It's a very similar thing.
And sort of everything they do is imagine
they were one of the people
who either helped the soldiers off the beaches of Dunkirk
or were on the beach of the Dunkirk.
And that Angela Merkel is strafing us from on high
the Stukka dive bomber.
It's amazing the kind of the boomer generation,
the kind of the luckiest generation of all time potentially
who never even touched the war.
No.
Carry the attitude that they were there somehow.
Yes.
With them.
Yes.
Like there's a real feeling from the kind of the luckiest generation
all time that they
the kids nowadays don't understand.
Yeah, and it's like they have
the entitlement of a war veteran
without any of the fighting experience.
Yeah, and they should have the least entitlement
because being Gen Zian millennial
has been way harder than being a boomer.
Totally.
Growing up in the 50s, no better times
to grow up.
But then I have a, my soul is of a boomer
who fought in the war.
Yeah.
Yeah, off for the Germans.
But you're a millennial.
Yes.
Which is mad to even say.
I'm a millennial on the outside,
on the inside,
I'm the common dance of a Nazi Einstein's group
at least in front.
I mean, it's a,
terrifying mixture.
Normally you get accused of being a Nazi.
Normally it's not as easy.
Sorry, Charlie's just got on a sort of semi-nude photo of Angela Merkel.
What's going on there?
What's going on there, Charlie?
Angela Merkel on holiday in Italy.
Whereabouts in Italy?
Because I've just been on holiday to Italy.
She was on Iskia.
I've been to Iskia.
It's nice.
Lovely, yeah.
It's near Naples.
You can get a mopeds and sandwiches.
No, thank you.
No, thank you.
Italy for me stops.
Would you say South Italy should connect with North Africa?
Yes.
In the Antchis.
Yes.
If we're Antchalus in countries.
Obviously, Spain, Italy, Greece is Slippistan.
We've discovered that.
But I'd say the north of Bologna, Italy, that's more...
Swiss.
I'd want to make a new Pleasuredome country, a country that is essentially...
Center parks.
But for the childless and middle class.
Okay.
And it's the lakes.
It's Austria...
Do you know what it is?
So I've just been to Lake Garda, where I now realize that aspirationally what I want from life
is to be Italian old money.
yeah there's no better lifestyle than italian northern yes very different yeah uh northern italian old money
the south is full of rats right in naples is a city infested with rats sewage yeah um north
just underneath the swiss austrian border there is no better lifestyle mid-century teak speedboats
on a lake everyone everyone was german everyone was rich everyone was rich every it's where rich
germans go on holiday yeah so i was there with my wife but really i was kind of cosplay
as a sort of Nazi officer on leave.
Did the Nazis spend a lot of time in Lake Como?
What was Lake Homer during the war?
Well, I was in Lake Garda, but...
Around that.
What are the lakes doing in World War II?
Charlie, can you get up...
What I'd like you to do, Charlie, is to plan a sort of Nazi mini break.
Yeah, what's the holiday?
What holidays?
What are the holidays?
Are they on?
He was the big holiday maker.
It was, who's the one who loved all...
Who was the fat puff?
Oh, Ernst Room?
Yeah.
The bathhouse guy.
Yeah, I mean, that was...
He died before the...
No, yeah.
got he got taken out of the night of the long lives.
Yeah.
He loved her like always honest a bath house and getting bummed.
Can you get a chat GPT up?
You're a travel designer.
Yeah.
I want you to act as my high-end travel agent.
I want you to act as my high-end travel agent.
I am a high-ranking Nazi.
And I would like to go on a German, let's go on, I'd like to holiday.
In Europe.
In central Europe.
Here we go.
Holiday itinerary.
A wealthy German, brackets, Nazis, vacations, vacation.
in fascistously
summer
1940
That was the summer
The summer
It never ended
This is
Well this in my head
is the Indian summer
that never ended
Empire Elegance and Espresso
Right
I love about how
Chat GPT
will give you
like
you know
a shit
two for one
novel
as a title
Empire Elegance
and espresso
An Axis grantor
Oh my God
Don't get me going
on an Axis grand tour
Florence
Yep
I want to lake
Tuscan Chocolatiers
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep, Rome, power, pomp, and pasta.
Keep going down.
Go down.
Amalfi Coast.
I didn't think about going to the Malfi Coast.
A Malfi Coast, Nazis on the Malfi Coast.
Here we go.
Aristocratic Calm.
Nice, yes.
When Nazi style meets aristocratic calm,
Lake Como, Lake Maggiore, you stay at Villadeste,
you boat sketching the scenery, you read Nietzsche or Schopenhauer,
I AMZi Ubermanche, I deserves this.
Afternoon, chocolates, an espresso, and belagio.
I mean, that's, yeah, that's basically the holiday I've just been on.
Yeah, quiet luxury.
Yeah.
Anyway, what are we talking about?
What are we talking about?
Oh, Dunkirk, that's right.
Yeah.
So, it's going, I'm sorry, I got very sidetracked because, as we've said before in this series,
this is the great sliding doors moment of the Nazi regime.
Yeah.
And I wanted, what I wanted to give the listeners and the viewers there is just a little window
into what life could have been like for a certain type of ban.
Is this the sliding door?
as in if they won at Dunkirk?
If the Germans obliterate the British,
then they close off that front
and the rest of the war is much less of an uphill struggle.
But they wouldn't take Britain though.
No, they probably couldn't have taken Britain ever.
Yeah, potentially it's less decisive as people make out.
So, we left off the last episodes.
Britain's in a bit of a rum situation.
They've been pincer movement by these insane techno-farting Nazis
to on meth amphetamins.
The French are underneath a big
big French stick,
drinking red wine. They're already surrendering,
which is a defence mechanism. They're trying to get their armpits
close to the Germans.
Skunk. So, in Britain,
Winston Churchill has a war cabinet.
Neville Chamberlain, the old cuck.
Yeah, who's very good to Churchill.
And in the end, when he's not in charge,
he actually shows himself as a good politician.
Yeah, he actually, people don't give him the credit
that he deserves in some way.
because although he cucked it totally at the 30-8,
when he's the second in command,
when he's the guy watching Churchill fuck-Hill.
He's behind Churchill all the way.
He's in the wardrobe loving it.
Yeah.
Well, it's heard of the war cabinet.
It's the wardrobe.
It's the wardrobe.
He's in the war cabinet, watching Churchill,
fuck Hitler.
The British War.
The wardrobe.
And you can still go on a tour of the wardrobe rooms,
can't you?
Anyway, so Chamberlain's there.
Halifax is there,
and Halifax is the one that's still flying the flag for appeasement.
Yeah.
he's the big the big pussy
he's the big juicy pussy
he's the fat pussy he's the fat pussy
he needs to turn red
and then you've got
two labor
you got two labor people who
don't have much experience in there
and are just kind of like happy to be there
yeah because labor is quite a new party
this point isn't it yeah
so they're just going wow
number 10's amazing god
the portrait is free
could I eat this
you're going to eat that yeah so they're not really adding much
at Lee and but they did say
decisively
they're only going to join the cabinet if Chamberlain sets down.
Yes.
So.
But this is the war cabinet make up.
And this is also part of the British myth of us all getting along, right?
Yes.
You know, Labour and Conservative, they put their differences aside for the national interest.
This is build into the idea of broken Britain and, you know, the nostalgia for the 40s.
Well, they're all...
Was it brilliant when we were rationing and potentially under threat from the Nazis?
I see.
They're all centrist.
They're all hollow centrist in a war cabinet.
Yeah.
Where's the point of difference?
Who am I to vote for if you were...
If you're all anti-Nazi.
Exactly.
Why is there not a pro-Nazi I can vote for?
Where's the difference?
What's on offer here?
Anyway, sorry, there's no historical records indicating Winston Churchill
shat himself in the literal sense.
I bet he did.
He did experience episodes of incontinence due to a stroke.
Now, that is later on in his life, I think, Charlie.
Are we going to judge him for shitting himself in his, like, on his final couple of years?
No, but this is where he dies in like 1960, doesn't he?
Churchill.
So this is, this is pre, this is church.
Churchill is his kind of virile...
Boss baby.
That's kind of what Churchill reminds me of.
Boss baby.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, Churchill is Britain's boss baby.
You're right.
The film Darkest Hour or Boss Baby, it goes by two different names.
Yes, yeah.
Boss Baby's darkest hour.
He is Boss Baby.
He is Boss Baby.
British Boss Baby.
So to bear in mind, he's become prime minister on the 10th, which is the same day that the
meth, the farting meth party
departs
through the pig forest
into France
and so over the next
14 days
it's just defeat
after defeat after defeat
Luxembourg, Belgium,
Holland
in the toilet
they're already toilets
collapsed like a
like a trifle
they collapse like
Jamlin's bottom
bums are going
out the window everywhere
the job is too big
for all these people
and at all points
Churchill is
we've got to stay in this
we've got to back the French
the French will fight back
and then he goes to Paris
and he goes guys can you put that
fucking cheese down for one second
and there's a guy that's rimming and all
what you know what's going on in France then
so it's all
France is it's just they can't decide on anything
no this 80 year old men
who are sort of having a long long long lunch
yeah and there's no it's what happens
when you don't have a decisive you can't really have a
you have to have a strong man in a wartime situation.
You have to have someone in charge.
And they've basically,
they've gone to a care home and gone,
who's the most virile man here?
Oh, it's an 85 year old who's not yet.
It's got dementia.
Let's put him in charge.
And yeah, so they replaced,
they have all these septuagenarians in charge.
By the 24th of May,
the British are completely surrounded
around the port of Dunkirk.
Right.
And there's a narrow corridor.
And this is the great what is.
because Hitler orders the Panzer divisions to stop.
The Holt's order.
The Holt order.
This is arguably where he loses the war.
Yeah, so I've always, obviously when you hear this story, you're like, just keep going.
Yeah.
But there are reasons why I didn't keep going.
Well, there's lots of different theories as to why.
Yeah.
Or rather there's many different factors.
Firstly, it's that it's quite boggy around Dunkirk.
It's not good for tanks.
Yeah.
Bit of a sticky wicket.
Secondly, Guring is, wants the Luftwaffe to destroy.
the BF and Gurings are
full Nazi and the army's like
not as Nazi as the Air Force
I think it goes in terms of how
Nazi you are, Luffafar army
Navy. Really?
The Navy is the least Nazi element of the
Sky Nazis are the... Sky Nazis
Right, right, right. Right. See Nazis are not, you know.
Yeah, no. It's a bit fruity. It's too fruity.
Yeah. Also... You don't want a soggy Nazi.
Soggy Nazi.
What's that soggy biscuit?
Soggy Nazi.
Soggy Nazi is what you want to play. You dress up
a Nazi officer and those people
come at you
what everyone comes on me as a Nazi
and then I'll be the Nazi you come with me
and how do you lose or win or do I
win? I think you win because I'm in the right
yeah because you're covered and come and dressed as an
Nazi right okay so it's more of a Nazi Bukaki
that I've
so the other thing
to mention is that you know the panzers
have been on the move for 14
days solid yeah they've not
slept they've just been taking meth
every day lights coming in through the curtains
Yeah, I mean, they're like, can we guys just have a fucking break for one second?
Yeah, has everything caught up?
They need to refuel.
I think they have like...
Well, most of them are on horseback.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't think they can wipe them out as easily as you'd think.
They're also expecting a massive French attack.
Yeah, which obviously is never going to come.
Obviously, it's never coming.
Also, listen to the podcast about it.
Though the Germans are far more dynamic and innovative than the British Army at this stage,
which is quite slow and lumbering, it is quite a stable force because the not...
the air, sea and army have good relationships
and they all worked for a greater good.
Well, at home.
At home, just in its entirety, right?
Whereas the Nazis is very competitive
because it's all through Hitler.
Yes.
So it's just the Luftwaffe,
the soggy Nazis and the land Nazis,
they're all just trying to get the go-ahead from Hitler.
Soggy Nazis.
But they are competitive with each other,
so they're not actually helping each other.
I see right.
the other one gets fucked what's the worst type of nazis it like a space nazi or a kind of space nazi is too
powerful right we didn't we never we never got to see space nazis again if we if we sorry if
fraud and slip there if they this is a history podcast hosted by nazi apologist that's that that's the
niche well i don't yeah who is it which one of us you know um if if if if they if they if they if they if they have
had decimated us.
It feels unnatural, doesn't it?
It really does.
I'm really doing my best here.
I'm aware that I'm going to be tried by Sophie Hagan.
I'm going to send you straight to the Soviet Hagan.
I'm going to podcast courts.
If they, if the Nazis,
oh, I hate those guys.
If they had wiped us out, then maybe...
It's hard to work out.
because they're so used to not having cameras on
and just speaking freely.
I know.
I've gone all coy.
Then we might,
they might have developed space Nazis
that we would have gone,
oh,
horrible,
ugh,
gross.
I hate that.
God,
fascinating though.
What would they look like?
What,
Swastika's on the moon?
The dark side of the moon.
Turn around as a bass of Swastika.
I hate that.
Imagine the moon landing,
but it's a swastika.
Yeah,
awful.
That would be rubbish seeing stormtroopers
who actually look like stormtroopers.
I mean,
Darth Vader is kind of,
You know, it's all the Nazi aesthetic, isn't it?
Yeah, Star Wars.
Yeah, I guess it is.
That is literally space Nazis.
So, yeah, we never got to see space Nazis.
I don't know if they would have been any worse.
One of the great Wattiffs.
One of the great Wattiffs.
Underwater Nazis, aquan Nazis.
The Sogian Nazis, which is surface water.
Yeah, Aquanazis less powerful.
Nazis don't, I don't think Nazis belong in the water, really.
No, they're land animals.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, so for whatever reason, I think it's also, well, this is quite funny.
in 1945 when the game's up
and Hitler says to like Churchill
I don't know why you're trying to attack Germany
and invade Germany when I didn't
I was like gave you a sporting chance at Dunkirk
Oh really? He said that?
He was like yeah I decided not to destroy you actually
because I was like well it's not cricket is it?
Do you think there's an element of that?
No because the person who started that was Hitler
in February 45
which is the most backed into a corner anyone's ever been
Yeah but do you not think
So he did respect the British, and he didn't want to necessarily destroy the British.
He wanted a sort of Saxon partnership.
Well, that's a conspiracy theory that he saw racial parity between the two and wanted their empire.
It's not even conspiracy.
It is started by Hitler in February 45.
So you have to take it with a pinch of salt.
With a scoop of sourcrow.
With a scoop of sourcrow.
He must take what Hitler says in February 45 with a scoop of sourcrow.
What was there something else going on?
Yes, he was quite busy at the time.
time um quite stressed i'd say he had i'd say he had burnout yeah with nowadays
psychologist would call it burnout come down february 45 yeah he's like i'm not enjoy you know
i'm not enjoying my work as much as i was and i'm struggle sleeping he saw himself as a great
historical figure napoleon Alexander the great right but what's interesting about him as a
military leader is he was kind of terrible as a military leader he's guessing guessing and sometimes
he got right but the logic to his decisions is mad well if you think about it his great military
success is the invasion of france which as we said last episode we could have done that
because we just gone well there's a gap there let's go through there how we're going to do that
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And he had a great war machine set up, but because it was such a top-down political system,
it meant that he was a control of so much.
and all of his decisions were pretty terrible.
Yeah, from that point onwards, yeah.
Pretty awful.
Even from the Haltor order.
Well, this is it.
It's the beginning of his terrible decisions.
In a way, yeah.
It was the Hort order.
But in some ways, he's doing it to reassert authority
because there's been bickering generals who are...
Yeah, because there's three different elements
of the Nazi military or hate...
Well, there's that, but also there's some of them who are like...
You know, because this type of warfare is very, very new.
And they're like, I'm worried that the Panzer Spearheads
is going to get overstretched, we're going to get isolated,
they're going to be in so...
called. Anyway, blah, blah, blah. For whatever reason, he stops the panzers and for three
days. And this gives Britain ultimately the space. Sporting chance. A sporting chance.
Okay. Are you sure that there wasn't like an element of this is all gone too quick? The Brits,
I saw this as a big clash. French, they're always going to, that was brilliant. I love that.
But I don't want to roll over the British that easy or so it's no fun. You think he was trying to make it more
fun or just more like sometimes when you see a cricket game well here is they're like completely
collapse it's like well they just didn't turn up i'm starting a test cricket game and this is
turned into a t20 exactly yeah right do you know what it doesn't feel oh this is just like a anomaly where
you guys have played awfully and it won't be viewed as us thrashing you but his whole tactic is i'm
going to play t20 in a test it is basball fine yeah blitzkrieg is the original basball
and you know what bas macullum has done with under ben stokes is take hitler's military tactic
and put it through an English cricket prison.
Anyway, sorry to the women listening.
This isn't getting easier for you.
Now, the 26th of May, 1940.
Hit ball, that's what I call it.
Hitler ball.
The 26th of May, 1940, this is a bad day.
For who?
For us, the British.
For we British.
For who hate the Nazis, this is a bad day.
So Churchill's been Prime Minister for 16 days.
King George
the fifth
he's a stammery cunt
He declares the day
to be a national day of prayer
But it takes him
Four days to say that
So he's missed it
By the time he said it
Fuck off George
It's a vicar of dible
No no no no no
No no no no no
Parking in the upper field
So
This is the state of affairs
When the War Cabinet convenes
They're expecting Calais
To fall imminently
But let's just say
The National Day of Prayer
That's how
imagine that now
nowadays it would be a national
day of Islam prayer
we all turn to Mecca
and pray fire
fucking
fucking Imam Sadiq the first
declares a day of national
mosque prayer
Imam Starmes says right
National Day of Prayer
gets on awful
where's Mecca
but everybody
this is a crisis
let's turn to face Mecca
come on
this is Britain in 2030
oh
oh Hitler back
is it
despite having
the largest navy in the world, Britain is still
outnumbered by
German airpower.
German air power is still pretty strong because
a lot of our airplanes have just been
sitting there ready to go at some point
in Belgium and the Germans are just
straight for them and blow them up.
So the Brits have lost a lot of aircraft in the
German invasion. The French
is being attacked by the Germans from the north and the east.
And a lot of the reason why
the Brits are less prepared, because it does
seem like we're also very unprepared, was
just because they expected the French to put up a bit
better fight and we're just helping out.
Look, the great, you know, the overestimating the French, we're never going to make that
mistake again.
Like, it's clear now that, you know, oh, we're allied with the French, well, we may as well
we may as well be allied with a fucking bin.
I mean, it's not, it's not done us any good, does it?
And you think Paris is a bin anyway.
Paris is a toilet.
France has a bin.
And don't get me wrong.
There's a toilet and a skip.
It's Paris France.
Paris France toilet skip.
And don't get me wrong, some of the edges of the bin
are very nice, where you sit from and look out from the bin
at lands and seas beyond the bin.
Beyond the bin.
By Finn Taylor.
Travel bird.
Travel guide to France beyond the bin.
Anyway, so the Germans are not going,
they're not taking the toilet yet.
They're still taking the bin lid.
They've captured a lot of coastal...
It is looking for more toilets to find.
He's conquering as many toilets as possible
Yeah
So they capture a lot of coastal cannon and gun
And they're using these to bomb and shell
The Allied ships that are in the channel
Right
Which would ultimately affect
The evacuation route that the Brits take
Because they have to do a bit of a weird
Like
It's sort of a straight line from Dover sort of
Dunkirk
Yeah
But they have to do like a big loop
A big to get around
To get around sea mines to get around
Yeah
But also there's a whole operation called de grouse
Is it de grousing
Degrouting
De-grouting, basically.
They're groutting, yeah, groutes when you...
I know what grouting is, but this is called de-grousing,
which is where they basically take all the sea mines out of action.
What, is this is just out of the war?
No, no, this is just before they launched the Dunkirk evacuation.
Because the whole channel's mined.
Yeah, I guess there's like,
do you think there's even a slight overestimating the Nazis at times,
like the fear factor of how quickly they've done all this?
Yeah.
Because they don't have a Great Navy at this point at all either.
They won't be able to cross the channel that well
I guess it's just about getting the troops across
But once you have
Like even when the small boats
Start the boats
Start the boats
Start the boats
Now stop the boats
Stop the boats
Stop the boat
Stop the fucking
No more boats
Stop them
Anyway
This is the start of the darkest two days
In Britain's history
Right
Again from a certain perspective
So what's the feeling
Is it similar to like
I don't know like a World Cup's heavy final
On during it
Like the streets.
What?
I mean,
people have got some Georgia's flags out.
Well,
people, yeah.
And I was like,
are they far right?
There's like a quietness.
There's just football on.
I don't know what's going on.
You know that kind of quietness you have.
Oh,
the hush.
The Lord's Hunt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we're losing a World Club semi final.
And that's what the streets feel like.
I mean, yeah,
for Hitler and the Nazis,
Dunkirk is like Southgate missing the penalty.
Right, right, right.
It's like, what if?
Yeah.
So Germany is Southgate.
Hitler's Southgate.
They're going up as Dunkirk.
And oh, they've missed it.
they've let them go.
The Reich has fallen.
Oh, no.
What could have been?
Everyone is thinking what could have been?
Ferry Venables is thinking,
fuck, we could have.
And now all that has to happen is they have to open up a second front and the
ally, the Americans join the war.
Oh my God.
No, they've done it.
They've done it.
They've defeated Hitler.
And look, there he is.
Devastated.
Gascoigne.
Watch his ass.
Job is too big for him.
Bum's gone.
Bum's gone.
Anyway, in the war cabinet, Halifax has.
Halifax turned out to be an absolute fucking snake
Halifax has been
back channeling with the Italians
for months with a guy called
You back channeled with some Italians once
I did, I've just been back channeling with Italians
washing my bottom in the lake
Guido
Bastiani
His name's Guido
Is he his name Grido? I think so
I mean that's ridiculous Italian name
Bastiani who's an Italian ambassador to London
It is hard to take the Italian seriously
When all their names sound like pastors
I feel they've undermined themselves
Because even the French don't have that
Where they don't not all their food
Sounds like a Frenchman
No
Do you know what I mean
But for some reason the Italians
They've named all their food
Just they all sound like pastas
Yeah
You can't
Oh Linguini's coming
John Linguini
Yeah
But then also you wouldn't have like
Riccossa stuffed Kevin
It does
It only works in the Italian
Yeah
I think it undermines
A little bit of kind of like
seriousness
So yeah so Halifax
has been talking to a big bowl of pasta
about whether Mussolini would
broke a peace talks.
To Rigotone, fucking Georgio Rigotone.
Georgia Rigotoni.
This is the closest Britain ever comes
to doing peace with Hitler.
Yeah.
Because the situation's perilous.
So what are you doing in this war cabinet?
What are you doing in this war cabinet?
I'm going, let's open up discussions.
Let's get him in.
Let's see what he has to say.
He's a great public speaker.
They look very stylish.
I'd like to hear what he has to say.
Sorry, who are you?
Yeah.
What party are you here from?
Don't mind me.
I'm from the future.
I'm from the Nazi party of Great Britain.
I'm from...
My name is Vidcrum Quisling.
No, so Halifax is like guys...
You know, what you do is you're ready to take over when Hitler...
Yeah, I'd be like...
You're prepared to take over the Vichy government style.
No, I'd stand up like when Churchill's like, we'll fight them on the beaches.
I'll go, well, actually, no, we won't.
And Hitler's appointed me as head of Great Britain.
We'll make friends with them on the beaches.
We'll make friends with them on the beaches.
make friends with them on the beaches. We'll kiss them on the beaches. Give them a hug.
Shake their hands. Um, so, uh, Churchill and Halifax start butting heads because
Halifax has got this. Churchill's got a massive head, though. Church has got a fucking
massive head. So Halifax is out of it. He's gone. Um, low center of gravity. He's fucking
boss baby. This is boss baby. This really starts to flex. This is when the Churchill
myth starts to form. Yeah, Churchill's face up. I want to see that just what years of alcohol
abuse does to you. What's hilarious about him here is probably about 45. Yeah.
And he looks about 17.
I mean, Clarkson also, can we get Clarkson's face up?
Clarkson now.
What is interesting, because more and more, hair transplants, cosmetics, biohacking,
these faces are going to disappear.
Clarkson is never taking care of himself in any way at all.
He's like, he's thinking he's in his late 50s.
He's never done anything cosmetic.
No.
And this is what happens.
Yeah.
Obviously people say Simon Cowell looks weird because he goes too far the other way,
but this is what Simon Cow would look like if he didn't do anything of stuff.
Is it better to look fucked or weird?
It's true.
You know, can we get Simon Cowell up?
I guess there's kind of like
something to respect about Clarkson
and just letting it all hang out
That's what I'd do
It's you're wearing baggy shorts on holiday
And your testicles have fallen out
Yeah
You just deal with it
I'm on holiday
Deal with it
So I guess you
I can either look like
I don't know what looks
What do you look better Charlie?
I think I'd rather be Clarkson
I'd rather be Clarkson yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Because he looked
Simon Cowley's like a fucking alien
Yeah
Yeah that's weird man
But yeah that's just
That is like a fucking meatball
No but it's fine if he was
75, but I think he's
59. Yeah. And he looks like that.
Yeah. Anyway, Churchill is probably in his 30s.
And he looks like a toad.
So Churchill and Halifax are
buzzing heads. Halifax is like, I've got this big bowl of
pastor that's ready to negotiate with us.
Halifax is like, let's see what Hitler's terms
would be. And if they're bad, we'll refuse
them. And Churchill's like, if you so
much as say what you got for us, we're
fucked. Don't talk to the Italian. I don't trust the
eye ties as far as I throw them. That's what he says
probably. Probably, yeah. I don't know.
But there's a huge, there's a huge split
in the war cabinet over these days
and Halifax is like really losing as rad.
So these are conversations that are happening between
12 people, five people? Five blokes.
Five blokes. And two of them are just there on
a day out. The later ones are oh wow. And this is actually
the most thrilling part of this whole story.
In some ways, yeah, the political history is the
yeah, this is what darkest hour is about.
Because there's also, there's Halifax and
Churchill go off to the garden where
party gate happened. Yes, the same garden.
The Rose Garden number 10
Where Clegg and Cameron
Had their walk of romance
Oh you know
Doing their double act
Yeah
They have a conversation
By the shrubs
Yeah
And we don't know what it was
But when they came back
Anything
Could be about anything
Could be about literally anything
Yeah could have been
But when they come back
Halifax has given up
And he says all right
We won't
We won't pursue peace talks
To the Italians
Oh fucking sock you in the
I'm gonna fucking hit you
If he sos
All right
All right
Fair enough
Yeah
Go on
Do you think
That Churchill and stuff
knew about how insignificant this was.
Do you think they knew the levels of like, historically?
They did a national day of prayer.
That's pretty fucking serious.
Pray you're pretty fucked if you're getting everyone to say
pray we don't get fucked.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a hellmary if I've seen one.
If the only hope you've got is praying,
then you're fucked.
You are fucked.
Please, please, please, please, please.
Please, please, please, please, please, please.
I promise I'll be good.
I promise I'll be good.
Yeah, you're completely fucked.
Yeah.
So at this point,
On the Sunday, I don't think they've been to the Rose Garden yet.
I think Halifax is still holding sway.
The Churchill doesn't know what to do.
In terms of the military situation, over Dunkirk on the Sunday, the 26th of May,
the Luftwaffe dropped 15,000 bombs, 30,000 incendiaries hitting port and the oil depots.
The port is now unusable, but in a quirk of fate, the smoke of the oil refinery means that
now the Luftwaffe can't really see where they're bombings.
so 27th of May
black Monday
Monday of colour
the love fathar
there's those great deals on at primark
yes people are storming through
the high street to get
TVs TVs
the luf faffer completely destroyed
Dunkirk's harbour at this
point it should be said that
the corridor is narrowing and
there are some I believe it or not
heroic French fightbacks
right apparently
I stopped listening to the
I stopped to
they threw stink bombs
they farted into jars
and threw the Germans
Halifax again
brings up the possibility of peace talks
with Hitler
Churchill says no
he says during the war cabinet
if this long island story
of ours is to end at last
that it end only when each of us lies
choking in his own blood upon the ground
so the troops
have made it to Dunkirk the town
the Germans drop thousands of
leaflets from the air
during the evacuation with a map of the German
position surrounding the mall
which is how the Nolan film opens
someone who's a leaflet and it says
Camaraden
put your own weapons just around it
well they should have done it in English
yeah because then the British
love fucking French
what was this is Charlie's or something
and they all wipe their ass with it which is quite funny
thank you for the toilet paper I appreciate that
well I guess they wanted to keep the sanitation level
high so they dropped
lots of toilet
parish is over there
you want to drop
the toilet paper
over there
the toilet's
just down
yeah you're a bit
north
this is a bin
if you drop
in bin back
beyond the bin
so
on the 27th
of May
the BF's
fifth division
lead a defensive
attack
counter attack
to north of
the town of Dunkirk
to try and
hold the Germans
off so now
there's a bunch
of like
quite good
Rorks drift
heroic
yes
of holding the Germans off.
And they're given the orders
of like fight to the death.
And I think...
Do they?
Yeah.
Or do they get captured?
No, I think this is where
Al Murray's granddad dies.
Really?
I think they fight to the death
so that the British forces
can escape.
It's maybe like six or seven thousand British.
Yeah, really, there's not...
It feels there should be more about that.
Well, that's because everyone...
Everyone focuses on the massive cue on the beach.
Yeah, that's what's weird.
And that, to me, is not the cinematic.
No, the cinematic is they're all in the beach
waiting, like autistic men waiting for the Bonnie Blue to someone.
suck them off. And then it's, you pan, you turn around and the cameras, he's all these tiny boats
and Jerusalem was playing. And then everyone's like, whoa. And Tom Hardy's flying over and everyone's
cheering. But 7,000 people are dying. Yeah, there's just like two miles away. Yeah. So the British
military back in London launch Operation Dynamo. Nice. Like the magician. The magician. He's going to
go down there. My best friends, my granddad. He's going to go over there and blow the Nazis mind with
some slight of hand.
I found magic when I was getting
bullied at school. The only person who didn't
bully me was my granddad.
Anyway, the British operation, they
send a magician to take a
oh, what's that behind your ear? Oh, it's an egg
and Hitler's like, bloop!
And
What was Hitler like?
Blot!
Right, right.
You know black people
reacted to magic? Yeah. Imagine Hitler
reacted to magic.
Farty Hitler reacted to magic.
magic.
It was like, and then, oh, what's this?
Oh, no, bloomed to the bad.
Yeah, I don't think he hit the light magic.
No, he doesn't.
Although he liked making people disappear.
I'm going to make an entire race.
Yeah.
Anyway, we've talked for so much.
And never has so many words been said about so little.
Right.
So they launch Operation Dynamo.
They get in the basement of Dover Castle.
And they, which is pretty cool.
in that they're in a medieval
medieval keep
and they're fucking running an operation for a minute
and what they think they want
or what they're expecting
is that they're going to get
max 40,000 of the boys off the beach
in 48 hours before
it's all fucked
we haven't placed any of this by the way ever
oh fuck we haven't
1940
1940 to keep it Austrian
yes this is 1940
this is after Freud
I started thinking about
shagging his mom.
Mm-hmm.
And it's before Fritzel has started shagging his daughter-wife.
Yes.
Yes.
Very well placed, actually.
A lovely, a lovely midpoint.
In any way, Fritzel is kind of like a banksiest satire of Freud.
He's a post-modern Freud.
Interpretation of Freud.
He's running with people's expectations of what an Austrian should think.
Shagmummy, no.
No, no, no.
Shag down.
Don't shag up the family tree.
Fuck down.
I'm going to fuck down the tree and in.
my house. I'm going to build a fuck
dungeon, keep it all in
house, in many more ways than one.
In many ways, yeah, I suppose this is the kind of high point of
Austrian. Yeah, Freud to Fritzel. It's in
between Freud and Fritzel. From Freud to Fritzel
via Ancelis and Schwarzenegger,
the Austrian story. That's the follow-up to my
Beyond the Bin series
where I trek through Central Europe.
Because you have a love of Germans, but the Austrians actually in
some ways. They discuss, they're
even more intense Germans. They're even more
German Germans. Yeah, they're more virulent
strain of. I've just.
German. It's the Austrian. It's a mutation.
Yes, it is a mutation. It's a growth coming off Germany.
Yeah, it is. It's why it should all be part of the same thing.
Anyway, so they want to get 40,000 of our boys off the beaches in two days. They think that's
achievable before we're blitzed to shit by the...
But this is, I sometimes feel like there's a lot of autistic British dads who, they are
missing a war to do this sort of stuff. The amount of like, I don't know, people who go to
mountain warehouse or like love camping or like have waterproof matches and stuff like that you know
these kind of geezers british dads yeah the reason they're so obsessed with that is because this is what
they've been built for and they have nowhere to express this organizing ferrying across you know the
british soldiers the channel they're built for this yeah yeah and it doesn't have anywhere to go
that's why they put lycra on and they go cycling i see because i mean yeah they're waiting to be
asked to do something like this they're great they're built for it they're waiting to stand
on a beach yeah for someone to pick them up mommy uh so on the 27th black monday only seven
two for one on on microwaves and you get an Xbox for under 100 pounds uh and if you're willing
to tell all the all the soldiers are like we've got to get back we're missing we are missing out
on some of the hottest deals this year if you're willing to pull a woman
hair out and kick a child in the face
you can get a blender for 50 quits
there's the Battle of Leal
which I guess that's like
a B-Day
Right
Instead of D-D-D?
Yeah
I call it B-Day
But they're just washing their ass
They're a little sink
Yeah yeah it's a bum sink for the French
Leal
Name me a French city
there you go
name me a French city
name me a French city
and I will name you
a part of the bathroom did it
Leon
yeah plug old
okay
matted with pubs
right
Marseille
Marse is the toilet
Marse is the toilet
Marse is the toilet brush
Marseille has got
Paris's
shit flex on it
and it's grateful for it
well Marseille's the toilet
the toilet the toilet
It's the bin of the bin
It is the bottom of the bin
It's the bottom of the bin
Neese
Neese
Nece
Um
what nasty
niece is
the little
so what you keep
your toilet brush in
that's nice
when that gets that
water
with that little bit
the little bit of water
in there
if you go swimming
in Nice
you're just drinking that
what about
Santetian
don't even get me
started on San Tettian
that
that's
if you lift up the
if you lift up
the toilet
yeah the lid
the lid of the cistern.
Yeah.
That's in there.
You drink that water.
That's in Etienne.
Right.
Anyway, so the Germans have laid siege to this big B day just north of the toilet.
40,000 French troops, 50 tanks are encircled by four German infantry divisions,
three panzer, blah, blah, blah, military history.
Not going to get bogged down in it.
But the French are planned multiple routes for a breakout, but they'd already been surrounded by that time.
And on the 31st of May, Leal surrenders and the 35,000 are taken.
Surprise.
surprise they surrender and anyway 28th of may now this is where churchill puts his foot down
and says halifax big stomp room shakes get that pastor out your fucking mouth we're not
i'm boss baby do what i say put the italians to bed um the belgian surrender surprise surprise
which means there's this big hole in the defense in the north and the bf are now even more
exposed from the north yeah so our good friend the autistic general birded montgomery
leads a
The autist's artist.
The autist's autist
leads an incredible counter attack
where he basically does something crazy
and fills the gap
like travels really quickly
to fill this gap
that the Belgians
Okay
And this is what leads him to
This is what kind of makes his name
Before
Because he becomes the big guy
He's the big guy
But was he the big guy from the start
I think he was quite high up
Or did he earn his stripes?
He was quite high up
But I think the legend is
sort of made in this first movements
So the Luffafra dropping
the leaflets when they should have been dropping bombs
really that's their first mistake is that
leaflets don't do the same level of damage that bombs
do the pen is mightier than the sword
yeah it's not so
bear in mind they're trying to get 40,000
out in two days and the first day
they get 7,000 out and then
Tennant who's this Navy guy
he what is it? It was brilliant Doctor Who
as well it's not David Tennant Charlie
I saw him in Hamlet and someone farted
in the crowd do you know when you're watching a play
no I don't you go to a play
and you're like, all right, there's the excitement of people talking
and there's that quiet
and then you realize, oh my fucking God, I'm in the play.
I can't watch a play.
How have I managed to find myself in this situation?
And you're like, oh, just look at my phone.
You go, I can't look at my phone.
I'm not allowed to look at my phone.
Why am I here?
What have I done?
I should have known better.
You're always angry at yourself.
So angry.
Every time.
Maybe this play will be different.
No, it won't.
It's a play.
You're thinking of films.
You're looking of porn.
You're like,
You're thinking of porn.
I should have watched porn.
Oh no, I love plays.
Yeah, I love porn.
That was what it was.
Oh, you're going to see, I'd love to come to your play.
Yeah, definitely.
Right, you sit down, take your trousers off.
What are you doing?
What do you mean?
Oh, fuck.
I meant Paul.
I thought they said, Paul.
Oh, fuck, sorry.
I might just go and watch some Paul in the toilet.
I won't for this to blow over.
Right.
This podcast has the series has been backed into a corner by the Blitz Creek and we need to get out of it.
Yeah.
By a farty meth addles.
Stop farting, Charlie.
Yeah, you're being cornered by your uncle on Christmas Day.
Imagine having a farty Uncle Hiller.
So doing that comedy stuff.
Have you seen that, you know, have you seen that thing where apparently you can,
you can see how sweet a watermelon is by how tight his bumhole.
Okay.
I saw a reel where a guy was like, the tight of the bumhole, the sweet of the fruit.
And I was like, I'm listening.
You got my attention.
And he's a melon farmer.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I don't sign him off.
And you can, apparently, you look at the, like, little nut,
and the tighter it is, it means the longer it's had on the vine.
Right.
And so the sweeter it is.
You reckon that with an arsehole?
No, no, no, I'm not extrapolating at all.
Okay.
It's purely melons, I'm talking about.
Right.
You're not saying that when you have a gay guy, the tighter the hole, the sweet of the fruit.
Well, that's a coincidence as well.
Well, that the fruit is sweet.
The young boys are sweeter.
Yeah.
If they've got a tighter hole.
Anyway, we need to...
We're all stuck on the beach of Dunkirk, and we've been talking...
so long
about David Tennant
In many ways
In many ways
You know
What were they talking about
On the beach
Be honest
I think we're painting a picture
What it was like
It was like five days
On the beach
Five are just standing about
Yeah
And then you know
You've got
The Luffra
Trying to bomb you
It makes it feel like
You're there
It does think
It's like what your
On a beach
I heard that if you look
At watermelon
You look at see how
It's tight
Like a little boy
What else are you
What else are you
Are they just sleeping
On the beach
Are they just like
What are they doing
Probably
Yeah
Just pooing, is there a bit of a beach that's for pooing?
I think you poo in the sea.
It's war time.
I don't think it's, yeah, I don't think any sort of like...
You're not pooing on the beach.
You have to poo on the beach.
No, we're all on there.
You got poo in the sea.
That's crazy.
Why not?
Why?
Could it just wash up again?
I put in the sea and my friend didn't get in because he was worried he's going to get a pink eye.
Well, yeah.
Well, could you swim out a bit?
No, because the tide is so shallow.
So this is, this is, I'm trying to get to the fucking finale.
No, you do, sorry, you do, you shit like a dog.
You shit on the sand
What, staring at you at all times
No, it's weird isn't how they look
You in the eye
But they're a bit embarrassed
No, they want you to protect them
Because they're too focused on shitting
So they're looking at you if you're like
Don't let me down here
I've always got your back
And now you've got mine while I poo
That's what they're doing
They always look over their shoulder
So coy
Yeah
Like a French girl
Pooh would be like one of your French girls
You shit on the beach
And then like a dog
You know when the dogs
Yeah, yeah.
You bury it.
Yeah.
You bury it.
Trench latrines.
There you go.
People went to the toilet.
They dug pits.
Right.
Glastonbury on sea.
Yeah.
Dig a massive pit.
All shit in it.
Cover it up.
Yeah.
Easy.
Bob's your uncle.
Bob's your father of your uncle.
Brits a broad package holiday, isn't it?
Right.
So they need to get the boys off.
They've launched Operation Dynamo.
Yep.
But the problem is is that the beach is too shallow.
The destroyers, they can't come all the way to the beach, the beach ships.
So what 10s.
So what Tenant finds is he finds this big thing called a mole,
which is a breakwater.
It's not a pier.
It's just like a big, big seawall that goes for like a couple of miles out.
A man-made?
Yeah.
And he goes, it's not a pier though.
It's not to be stood on.
It's just to like keep a harbour still water.
But he goes, do you know what?
I reckon we could use that.
Everyone lined up on that.
And then we could use it as a pier to get the ships,
so the big ships could come close.
Is that a genius idea or I've thought of that?
Well, again,
you've got the benefit of hindsight.
Hey, that massive wall,
why don't we just all go there?
I mean, yeah,
none of this is actually that.
Do you know what I mean?
I don't know.
I can't work out what is genius
and what's like,
well,
yeah,
where else are you going to do it?
Yeah,
exactly.
What,
the big thing that's almost like a pier?
Yeah,
yeah.
Do not I mean?
It's not.
No,
because it's meant for people to stand there.
Well,
we're about to fucking die.
No,
no,
we can't,
because that's where that's pedestrianized.
You can't stand on the breakwater.
That's not,
that's,
yeah.
you can't stand on it
it won't hold
but I don't know
what I'm talking about
with this sort of stuff
but to me I'm like
yeah
but this is the 40s
isn't it
it's like
it's so obvious
to all of us now
anyway
he orders
the Queen of the Channel
to dock
904 men
are put on board
however
that's a ferry
the Queen of Channel
yeah it's a ferry
but then
it gets some
bombed by the
Lefafa
it sinks
but everyone survives
so it's fine
so it's fine
but that's like
the first kind of
the glimmer
the glimmer of hope
yeah
and on that day
the 20
17,800 men
are evacuated.
Because they now
realise they can do that.
They realise that
they can do that
but it's still precarious.
The Germans,
the panzers,
you know,
the whole order has been rescinded.
They're coming back.
Women and children first though,
right?
No,
women and children are in the countryside
in Britain.
Yeah.
But I'm just on the beach.
It's always women and children first.
There's just no women or children.
So it's,
what is it?
Fat guys next?
I mean, who's next?
I know it's walking wounded,
isn't it?
Because this is basically Titanic
with those only blokes
on the ship, right?
Yes.
It's a sinking thing we're just only...
It's gay Titanic.
Yeah.
So at the end of the 28th of May,
Churchill addresses the House of Commons and says...
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, everyone.
Settle down.
Winston here.
I'm Winston.
There's no more peace talks with Italy.
Halifax's nonce.
Yeah.
We're going for Hitler.
Fuck Hitler.
And they fucking love it.
And they love it.
And everyone's like...
Because one of the big successes of Dunkirk more than anything is it solidifies Churchill as big dog.
Yes.
Boss.
as boss baby
the big problem
with France and the UK
up until this point
has been unstable leadership
a lot of indecision
a lot of Jackie Weaver's
counselling
and this is kind of the beginning
of like right
he's in charge
whatever he says goes
so in total
in 28th of May
about
25,000 men
have been evacuated
but there are still
over 300,000
beautiful British boys
shitting on a beach
we're going to call in Lily Phillips
as well now
Lily Phillips
Bonnie, you've done your work here,
but Lily, we're now pressing the nuclear button
and getting Lily Phillips involved.
What will happen next?
In our final episode in this series,
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and see if...
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where would he have landed on the East Coast
would he have got as far as Scotland as well
wow I tried to think
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