Fin vs History - Feminist Destroyed By Truth and Logic (and a Horse) | The Suffragettes (Part 2)

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

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And listen, it's all getting pretty ugly now. Actually, to be fair, it's been ugly from the start. Some of these women are absolute monsters. But their tactics are getting despicable. To recap, women, I don't know, they're fucking natural in a way. I don't know what they want. Do they want me to buy them dinner? Do we want me to maw their cunt?

I don't know. I don't know. But this lot... Watch the first episode first. Please. As ever, please, please listen to this podcast in order. If you haven't heard the first episode, that does it. In order.

Listen to it in order. In order. They come out in order for a reason. To recap, women want the vote. They've been whipping Winston Churchill. They're getting into BDSM. They're getting to BDSM. They're not eating dinner.

Plusa Schoenge. And yet, Henry, Herbert, Asquith. The Horn Dog. A loyal man. I guess he's not a brilliant father They've been better fathers Sure Than HH Ask with

A reasonable politician Has been keeping them At arm's length But it's nice when your dad gets on With your friends Yeah you want your dad To go on with your friends Oh my friends

Oh yeah great Let me just change Yeah I'll take my trousers off Yeah Yeah They take for dinner Yeah

Do they want to stay over Sleep over Not with you with me So, yes, Asquith has been violently hawny writing letters to his teenage daughter's friend. That's kind of irrelevant, though. Mainly, he's keeping the suffragette movement at arm's length. However, Pankhurst has another ace up her sleeve. And they're big sleeves.

And they're, well, yeah, another ace up her muff. She's got a whole deck of cards and her muff, which at this point is not a fanny. When does the word muff mean fanny? Charlie. It is the 1690s. Interesting. So then they called... Post-Civil War.

They called the hand-warmer a muff with full knowledge of what a muff meant. I guess it looks like muffs before shaving Fanny became... But I presumed it was the other way around. I presumed when we were carrying around a big hairy thing. Yeah.

And then... You make your own joke. What is it? Is there any word that you could reclaim as kind of my knob, but it isn't your knob. What? What?

What do you mean what? What you said didn't make any sense? Ask that exact question again. Is there any word that you could reclaim? Reclaim as knob, but it isn't actually your knob in the same way that they had a little bag, which was their muff.

Could you answer it? Yeah, like a small hammer. A small hammer. Or like a little, but like a little hat. I don't know. A little hat for your... I don't know.

I don't know. Stop the podcast. There's any... Any way... I don't know. I don't know. Why are you asking me? I don't know.

Fuck off. Listen. They've been keeping knives in their muffs carrying around big hair things. That's what I want to say. It's interesting that they... I assumed they were carrying that around then named their hairy muffs...

After the hairy thing. Right. But reality... they had big stinky muffs first and then they've had the hand warmers which implies that women were warming their hand at one point in their big stinky muffs

yeah but you probably would have in a corner a pinch I guess for men they're sort of a hand warmer in the primeval sense what is it what is it Charlie it better be good this guy has to be good Charlie you've really fucked up yeah do girls do that do girls put their hands in the same way that men put their hands actually that's a relatively good question you've you've got away with that one because actually my daughter does that yeah She should have a muff.

I mean, let's be clear. Like Ross Barclay. Excuse me? Ross Barclay. Why are you picking up Ross Barclay? I imagine he rolls around like kind of with his hands down his track. He's like, does she roll around like Ross Barclay? Ross Barclay.

I haven't thought about him for some time. So you know what's sort of becoming like a Ross Barclay type figure? I guess so. She's Barclay-esque. Yeah. She's sort of a Lampard Tribute Act really. She can't, she never sort of fill his shoes. Is that what you mean?

Yeah. Yeah. No. I imagine. women, I mean, it is, I suppose you can find this out actually, as a scientist. Is it hotter? Are women's pubis is

hotter than men's temperature-wise? I imagine they are, because they're cooking stuff. This is a chat GPT question. If you were, yeah. They're cooking stuff down now, aren't they? No, but I imagine there's this, no, because our organs are external. Yes.

So I was a fucking roasting hot. Yes. So I actually think the cock and balls is a warmer place to be. Women's body temperatures are higher than men's naturally, which again, was a really reason why they did not have the vote. This is internal and does not significantly affect the temperature of the groin area.

Woke nonsense. I imagine Flora's putting her hand. She's like got a grey trackies and just stick it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flores find a plane one-handed with her hand down the trackies. Just tax it to land. Flora drummond. She reverses the whole way.

Oh, yeah. Flora can park. I'll say that much. Yeah. I would want her to park it for me, actually. Anyway, listen. Do you want to park it for me? Parking it for me love

It's what me Look at your hands on you It's all been It's all been fun in games Alright It's been a laugh It's been silly It's been a laugh

But but they don't They don't understand When to stop the joke Yeah Okay And in 1911 Pankhurst As someone had been Pankhurst

Yeah Begins Been Laundry A campaign of terrorism As if she hadn't Already started one She starts bombing Letterboxes

Okay What have they done? You know, first you smash windows and I said nothing. But then you start bombing letterboxes. Yeah, it is absurd. I still said nothing. Yeah. Because I mean, I live in the digital age.

They're irrelevant. They're irrelevant. But the postal system at this point in 1911 is everything, right? Critical. I mean, how's, how's, how's, horny letters going to get to that? Where are they going to go? They're being evaporating to thin air. Because now he's waking up.

It's like, you know, you're, it's annoyed. Okay. Enough. I spent ages drawing a picture on my penis to send to my girlfriend's best friend. Yeah. And now it's ruined. How is my daughter's best friend meant to know that I want to buy her dinner and then mull her cunt? How is she meant to know that if you're blowing up a postbox?

This is the country's arstries that she's bombing. Okay? And Pankhurst leads the campaign. They pour chemicals and burning materials into postboxes. Yeah, okay. Activists call this outrages. I don't know what that means. Outrages mean, I guess, disorder.

Right, okay. Let's cause some outrageous. I see. What I call it outrage. Right. But enemies. rightly call them terrorists. I guess we're enemies then

because they are, we think they're terrorists. Yes. In the language of the time, this is terrorism. This is, and I want to stress, this is 50 years before the IRA. I don't care what type. Terrorism is terrorism. Yes, it is. There's no two ways about it.

Tough on terrorism, tough on the cause of terrorism, which is women get in the vote. This is 50 years before the IRA imported their bombing campaign to the British mainland. Yeah. This is the first blitz.

It is. The Blitz begins in 1911, as far as I'm concerned. Right, I'm hiding in the shelter in 1911. Get underground. Postboxes are exploding. Got to be terrifying. Also, it's in your own house. It's your wife, potentially.

Yeah. You can't trust anyone. It's like East Germany. Yeah. They're informants. Yeah. So they begin this campaign of arson. Yeah.

Government buildings. Churches, sports pavilions. Leave the pavilions out of this. That is not cricket. It's not cricket at all. Bombing cricket pavilions. Yeah. For the vote.

That's not the wrong way to a man's heart, that is. Golf courses. God, this is an attack on straight, middle class. Leisure. Leisure pursuits, isn't it? You're bombing railway stations, golf courses, and cricket pavilions. I mean, you've lost the autists. You've lost them.

Churchill condemns these tactics. The suffragette movement has degenerated into an orgy of disorder. Bit horny from Churchill. Again, well, he's being whipped by them, to be fair. So this arson campaign kicks off in sort of 1912 around the time of the Titanic. You know, this really is the end of the Edwardian innocence, isn't it? Yes. You know, the Titanic has sunk, the greatest ship.

Yes. At the same time, middle class women are bombing letter boxes. There is a bomb maker called Jenny Baines. Okay. Wow. She's seen some things. That's not a man. That's a woman.

I just generally yeah it says he built hundreds of bombs I'm wrong first time we said that I'm wrong she built hundreds of bombs

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A bomb is planted in the home office in July, thankfully it's discovered before it goes off. The theatre royal Dublin is bombed, okay? Suffragettes burn down the theatre while Asquith is attending a massanade. Can a man not attend a match-in-a-mast-a-ch-ach-ach. Jesus Christ, he's trying to have a break. The same day that an axe is thrown at his head, okay, Asquith is a... Again, there's an assassination attempt. A canister of gunpowder and petrol is placed near the stage.

Lit matches thrown. There's an explosion. No one dies, but the theatre suffers damage. I mean, it's vandalism and vandalism. David Lloyd George, who is at this point, maybe the Chancellor, he's in high up in the government. In 1913, his house is bombed. And the bombers leave behind a large hairpin as like a calling card.

Calling card. Right. Sexy with it, though. They don't want to be caught. Yeah. You know, no, no, no. But there's an element to this. With most terrorism, it's like, if it's the Irish, if it's Islamic terrorism,

these are two factions that don't need to be together. But men and women, it has a different tension to it. Al-Linda Akbar. Is that what they're shouting in? They're on my letterbox. Al-Laure, Akbar. Anyway. But do you know what I mean?

The fact that men and women have to live together. We have to. that you have to. I have to. Do you know what I mean? IRA and Protestants, you can segregate those two groups. There is a solution where you don't see.

There's a two state solution. There's no two state solution for men and women. If only there was. I think there could be, you know. No, I think, I mean, you could have a sort of, you could split up the world into the male half and the female half.

How do you reproduce? Sorry, well, you, you, text tourism. I see. Yeah. So sex tourism becomes essential. Yes, it becomes procreation. Well, do you know, we haven't talked much about female sex tourism. Do you know about this?

Good God, the debts. So type in female sex tourism Trinidad and Tobago. What? So in the way, the male sex tourists, they go for the kind of... We go east. Yeah, we go east for cheap, erotic pleasures. We're going to go west. What that song's about?

Go west. So it's interesting that the men go for small Asian women, affordable. Women go for big black guys. in Toronto, Tobago. Ebrida. Yeah, so look, female,

yeah, so female sex tourism. Yes, there's this big industry of like older white women going out and getting absolutely, yeah, getting absolutely railed by like male prostitutes out there.

This is a scandal. This episode is scandal upon scandal. So old white women are traveling to the Caribbean. Yeah. To get dick down. To purely to have, purely to get to dick down by young.

young black men. Yeah. From the cat, wow. Yeah. And are they coming home, you know, is there a Thai bride thing in the way that? Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

Or is it just too frivolous? Michelle, a local woman who works at one of the beachside bars, wonders what the tourists see in Jamaican men. They know what it is, I suppose, but I don't see the attraction. Our men are lazy and good for nothing. They're not good lovers. All they do is get us pregnant and leave us to cope with the baby while they're off doing their own thing.

That's your words, Michelle. Yep. Not my words. Yeah. So literally they've heard about the big. I mean, it makes sense, isn't it? Makes sense. You know, you've got tight fanny tourism that way,

big norris in that way. Yes. You don't want to get out of the wrong plane. Your dad doesn't want to be the wrong plane. Oh, no, what? Tight Fanny's firing ping balls out of their vaginas and then big knobs batten them away. It's like baseball.

Organize that cricket match with you. Charity cricket match. And also, you could divorcee husband and wives could both go to watch different things. I'd watch that. Yeah, but it's like his and hers. No, no, no, no, it's the same game. No, by I'm saying that you could both watch together.

Yes. You can take your wife. Exactly. Something for the guys, something for the girls. Yeah, and we can each have a favorite player, you know? Fastball, fizzing in and then, bam. So obviously the Thai brides, they'd want to field first. Yeah.

Because that's where they're, you know, they're bowling out of their families like that. And then you've got these black swacking their cocks. You know, fucking Viv Richardson to get at the end. Well, I did not know about female sexism. Every day is in school, though. Yeah. Thank God I do now. Now, the suffragettes, let's get back to female terrorism.

Yeah. A female sex terrorism. Yeah. The suffragettes plant a bomb under the Bishop of St. Paul's chair. Oh, my. It's nothing sacred. It's nothing. That's St. Paul's. Not even the Nazis bomb St. Paul's.

No, of course not. Okay? It was left standing, the footage of defiance in the Blitz. And yet 30 years, 40 years previously, women had tried to blow it up. Bonfelder detonate. I mean, maybe not, yeah. You weren't getting it to stand at this point, I suppose. Yeah.

Not enough autists on your side. No, and that is the one key in our arsenal. A cathedral verger, I don't know what that is. Is that some kind of religious nonce? Heard the mechanism ticking and discovers the device and then puts in a bucket of water. Nice. Nice.

Now, the WSPU, right, which is, you know, that's Sinn Féin. Yeah. But they also are tied to the IRA. It is Boca Haram. female Boko Haram. But they run a bomb-making factory. So at least the IRA and Sinn Féin are separate. You know, obviously they're linked.

This is the actual organisation, the political arm. So I want people to know that the Women's Equality Party by Stanley Toxvig, okay, which is the successor, in her words to the WSPU, ran a bomb-making factory out of a flat in Leeds, okay? Shocking. This is four lion's stuff. This is four lion's stuff, four lionesses. Yeah.

They start using code names. They go on the ground. They use these code messages to avoid capture. So the codes are, they're all animals. So like if you say fox, it means are you prepared for arrest? Not a rat, like to be arrested, not have you tucked yourself in. Yes. Goose, don't get arrested.

Duck, don't get a finger up your ass. Don't get a finger up your ass. Birds, finger yourself, silly. Tortus, don't do it, wait. Yeah. Is this where that goose comes from? No. So you think a subject would say,

don't get arrested unless success depends on it, don't get arrested, don't get arrested. And then runs. And then runs. They also, this is the long road in many ways to just up oil. Definitely.

I saw that was a lot of parallels. A lot of parallels. Because in 1914, Mary Richardson, okay, yet another middle class of female terrorist, hacks a painting

in the National Gallery with a meat cleaver. The Rokeby Venus, a sort of Baroque period like nude. Wow. And she slashes at it and she says, quote,

I've just tried to destroy the picture of the most beautiful woman in history. She let her growl out of the cage. Yeah, well exactly. As a protest against the government for destroying Mrs. Pankhurst, who is the most beautiful character

in modern history, okay? That's objectively false. Yep. Well, I guess it's like just a, don't stop oil, just of oil, because it's middle-class terrorism, right? Yes, yes. It's granola eating kind of guy who is an allotment

is trying to bring down the British state. Yeah, you can't have an allotment. Yeah. And be a terrorist. And be a terrorist. Speaking of terrorists, there was a militant cell of young unmarried

I mean you're already militant You don't need to say militant They're unmarried But these are basically lesbians Right And they get known There says Vera Wentworth and Elsie Hoey

are so rowdy That more conservative suffragettes call them as hooligans Lesbian hooligans Just fucking taking their tops off Get the vagin Every photo They're like, wait

Wait Get the badge not that right every photo yeah casuals that's being casuals um

yeah the badge in go um hooligan looking at cane you know that fat ball guy is a flora is flora

looking at a police officer yeah that's a suffragette yeah 1912 so they pledged to undertake danger duty and they would

um They would bomb trains. They would attack the houses, race courses, put a pin on that. They do all the post box stuff. And these were card-carrying lesbians. They were open lesbians in the Edwardian era. So they're called the Young Hot Bloods. Get the badge in, right?

And now we need to get to Emily Wilding Davison. Okay. If, you know, if Pankhurst is Bin Laden, Davison is Abu al-Bak, the ISIS guy Whatever, what's he called? Where's the head of ISIS

who died like a dog? Who's that guy? Al-Baghdadi. Al-Baghdadi. Okay. She will become probably the most infamous suffragette.

Yes. She... This is sort of If you were going to do a whistle-stop tour at this period, she's probably this event

is probably the most memorable thing that happens. This is the 9-11 for women. 9-11, four men. Yes. yes, by women. Because it wasn't 9-11 for al-Qaeda.

It was 9-11 for America. It's true, actually. When we say that was like 9-11, we'd never think about like, well, whose perspective? Wasn't there, the Muslim 9-11? No. What's the Muslim 9-11?

I don't know, maybe they mentioned the miniskirt. Yeah. Yeah, Mary Quant in the 60s. But before 9-11s, they were like, what do you call this? So, Emily Davison had studied in Oxford.

Again, just a sort of breeding ground for female extremism, it seems. She's arrested. after joining the WSPU. And she was always, when all the other ones were kind of like, you know, working together, she was always sort of a lone wolf.

Right. I said, a lone growler. Right. And she was quite, what was she like? She's using, she's almost using kind of David Blaine-esque performance art.

Yeah, public shock tactics. It reflects society in a certain way. Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, it's all like, yeah, it's what it brings out of other people. This was a famous one. In 1911, so they were doing a national census.

Okay. And women were not allowed the vote at this point obviously. So they were protesting by boycotting the census, right? However, Davidson, because she wants to make a sort of edgy, cool point,

she hides in a cupboard in the palace of Westminster on the night of the census, which means that her recorded address is the House of Commons, right? suffragette stuck in cupboard. There we go. One way to get her out of that. You've got to fuck her out of the cupboard.

Yeah. Suffragett stuck in the... Suffragett stuck in Parliament's cupboard. The predecessor's a stepmom getting stuck in washing machine. On the night of the census. So she, you know, but that's very kind of Beethoven's brother activism. Like, you know, technically. Technically, I live there.

So, you know, Radio 4 are lapping that up. Yeah. That's not actually political activism. That's Radio 4 comedy. Yes. Yeah. Very droll. Very, very dry. And again, Asquith is, you know, he's enjoying this.

Yeah. Because he's like, well, that's just, that's just humor. Yeah. That is just a lot. That's just rye humor that I can enjoy, you know, listen to the radio. And then I turn it off and go and rail my daughter's best friends. You know? That's just good stuff.

That's funny. In this day and age, that is what's funny. Yeah. There's a woman hiding in a country. Your uncle talking about Merson. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The master.

Is this subject? I'm not going to bring covered. So, but Davidson repeatedly goes to prison. And so in the prison, she fucking barricades herself in the... Yeah. She won't eat dinner, right? Of course. It goes out saying.

So she fucking locks the door and barricades herself in. And then she refuses to come out. And it's like, well, you're in a prison. So you've been prisoned yourself. in a prison and then they've had to flood her cell to get her out. With what? Water. Right. They're like flood her out basically.

She throws herself down the staircase, right? Very dramatic. Yeah, it is because she wants to draw attention to the treatment of prisoners but it's like, well, you throw yourself down there. And you love. So this is the first maybe you've got a black eye that fell down the stairs. She's a BPD bitch basically. A BPD bitch? Yeah. Delivery driver. Boardline personality disorder.

Right, sorry. Yeah. She's a lot. yeah she um you know you you you get you have her appointment with her you think fuck i know and then she's crazy the sacks you know you keep saying she's she's thrown up on that thing she's she's getting stuck in she's getting stuck in covers she's she's giving you such good she's asking for it she's giving me such good net that she's horse kicking your tv off the walk um well yes i suppose maybe that's what maybe that's what maybe that's what she met her end is that she uh she went to the front of the horse and that was what happened She goes on hunger strike in,

she goes to girl dinner in jail and she's force fed. And she publishes this account, as I said, describing the choking, the pain, the, all that's just the good stuff.

And that's just the fun bit. And this causes a national scandal, which then starts, now the public is starting to turn. The public opinion is quite interesting because it's quite split. It's not, well,

there's a lot of people who have public sympathy for suffragettes and always have done. I think it's seeing them being rugby, tackled by policemen and then the prisoners

getting, and it's a liberal government as well. So this is, in many ways, this is like a very liberal, this is something

the liberal government should do. Yeah. It's the logical end point of, very good. Liberalism, yeah. Very smart,

Charlie. So the public is, they don't like all the force feeding stuff. They think that's a bit vulgar. Yeah. And so the newspapers

are now printing increasingly graphic accounts of the force feeding. And so it's called, causing a very conservative nation to recoil. Yes. What is it, Charlie?

Do we think the force feeders are getting off on it? Oh, you're, actually, I knew. This is such a mess, isn't it? What are we doing? You think the force feeders, the prison guards, is going, this is God, what am I doing? What are we doing? I shouldn't be doing this.

We shouldn't be doing this. I'm actually certain. I'm certain that they would have found that horny. It's like bread and milk and meat processed. making them do it, you're like, this is fucked. You've got to bear in mind, Charlie, that you think anything can be horny, because the thing you find horny is you saying, this is fucked. This is fucked.

This is absolutely fuck. Should we just fuck? It's such a mess. There's no coming back to this. We might as well just fuck. You'd be the one guy in Auschwitz when everyone's just starving. You're like, oh, this is fucking terrible. What are we doing?

What are we doing here? What are we doing? We shouldn't be doing this. in a room imagine if all that's just wouldn't that just be a mess? Wouldn't it be an absolute mess? We all just fucked. Gosh.

What are we doing here? You can say that about anything, though, can't you? You know, you could hit roadkill and go, God, this is... What are we doing? What am I doing? This is fuck. You know?

You can put your dick in the sofa and say that. You can do anything. What am I doing? What am I doing? I shouldn't be doing this. you know what I mean you can do that with anything my point whanking it your nan's funeral

what am I doing I shouldn't be doing this it's so wrong that it's right yeah just giving a eulogy what am I doing this is so fucked

you know you just do about anything can't be anything sexy if you think think like that so there were actually images of women enduring force feeding

okay look here you go there's one I mean that is before or after uh I think um

Yeah, so she's got a nasal feeding tube. So they're pouring kind of wet bread and yesterday porridge. She's going bread through her nose. Yeah, she's getting porridge up the nose, but not in a fun way. And she's obviously got black eyes and stuff because she fell down the stairs. Anyway, it's all getting a bit gnarly. And so the government introduces the Cat and Mouse Act. It's not called that.

It's called the Temporary Discharge for Ill Health Act. Let's catch you. but it's because the girls are playing cat and mouse. Yes. They're playing hard to get. They're playing hard to eat. That's what they're playing. Playing hard to eat.

This policy means is that when they get all sick from not eating, you get released and then you muckbang on the outside. And then as soon as you're ready to go back in, we arrest you again. Yes. So hunger strikers would be released when weak and then re-arrested as soon as they'd recovered. Which Parliament hopes will break the sort of master's thing. but women release into these safe houses and then they just sort of disappear

until they can't catch them again which is why it gets called cat and mouse right there's also a lot of intersuffergette bitching which it would be remiss of us not to talk about because I mean obviously this is the problem with the movement is that women's worst enemies themselves yeah I mean Sylvia

Hendoos are far harder to organise than Stag Duce I'd rather gig I'd rather do Gxtra Stag Dues and Hendo's I just think in general it's just You have lots of fewer options if you're a hendoo. If you're trying to get a group of 12 women together, it's, you know, if three of you go missing for a couple days,

that's not as funny. No, no. But with men, that's hilarious. It is hilarious. That's a good stag do. Yeah.

Yeah. A good stag do if Ian, Nigel and Kevin. Don't come home. That's hilarious. That's funny. But if Laura, Sally and Margaret don't come home,

that's very serious. That's very serious because a man has left with their kids. And that is sad. But also, Hendoos, you know, from my experience, there's a lot of, there's a WhatsApp group, there's then other WhatsApp groups where they're bitching about

other people on the WhatsApp groups. They're saying, why are you in these groups? Hey, no, I'm seeing Amanda. Amanda. You're like, I've got some horrible things to say about these women. Yeah, can I join?

I don't just think she's cheap. I think she's ugly as well. Can I say that? You know, with the stag do, it's like someone, if someone takes charge, it's fine. Yeah, you just can post the picture of the guy with a big black knob.

Yeah. And then that's like... And then you open the, oh, we're going here. and you do that twice. And then everyone's like, oh, this will be fun. And then you go to a former Soviet capital and you get cunted on Pilsner for two days.

And then most of you come home. Yeah. Win. Some of you stay. Some of you stay. Some of you find new lives in the wild. Fine. FEMA, hendos, you know,

at least two of them have to be crying at all times. Spitting plates. Someone has to be crying. Someone has to be crying. Yeah. It's not a hendoo unless everyone cries. Wait, if we're not crying, then who the hell is crying?

I guess that must be me. Yeah. So Sylvia Panker. is Christabel's sister and she is a Marxist and thinks it should be more about class. Yes, she wants to make more working class. Yeah.

So she's a bit more extremist I guess so. And then also, because Emmeline and Christabel are basically like these sorts of Ayatollahs within the movement. She said they're too authoritarian

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And subscribe so you never miss an episode. Tabloid stuff Probably the most infamous moment of the suffragette movement is Emily Davidson's reckless decision to try and suck off a horse

during the Epsom Derby of 1913. Now help me explain what this is meant to achieve. We should place this probably. We should, you're right. So this is after collegular... It's June 1913.

Yeah, and that's after Carrigora married his horse made a senator a horse do you not marry a horse no he made a horse who married a horse someone married a horse yeah all right mate

before he made a senator a horse and then this is before anyone fucked a horse on video you know the first porn video of a horse fucking a woman I believe that would be

after this I think they got the idea from this. Yes. Charlie, what have you, what have you found? That's a dog

fucking a cow? I'm going, I'm going quite triggered by that. Looks like my wedding. In a good way. Casson the Great was meant to a fuck to a horse. Yeah,

but she didn't film it. Fucking all right. So we can't know. So yes, it's after Caligula made us a horse a senator and it's put, can you get the dog fucking the cow off the screen?

It's like, it's a gift that won't stop. going. He's really like, he's really into it though. He's really like, fucking, he's blowing its back out. He's like,

I'm only going to get one chance of this. And the cow's not feeling a thing. The cow's just chewing. That's why I find it quite triggering, you know? I'm working really hard back there. She's just chewing the cut.

Chewing grass there in the distance. Bored. Um, anyway, fourth of June, 1913. It's after the Titanic. and it's before, I guess,

anything got called Titanic. Yeah. And the Epsom Derby, okay? This is probably the big social event of the Edwardian calendar. Right. I guess it's like, do they still have the Epsom Derby today?

Or is it Ascot? But this is a big, big deal. Cheltenham Ladies, Cheltenham Day. I don't know. This is all above my pay grade. There's all this stuff. But it's a race day.

It's attended by the elites, the aristocrats, the politicians, royalty. And now, there are news real cameras line on the course. So you may actually be wrong. This is maybe the first time that a woman got destroyed by a horse. I had a black blown out by a horse.

Woman gets destroyed by a horse is the thumbnail for the Epsom Darby highlights. So now Emily Davidson, you know, had been working up a new stunt. Okay. How can I draw attention to the cause? I got stuck in a cupboard in parlour. had to be fucked out. That was all very funny. What, what now?

How about now I get fucked by a horse in front of everyone. My next trick. My next trick, I will swallow this horse cock. And the horse, okay, is the king's horse. Yeah.

Who's called Anmer, okay? Now, Anmer is an innocent bystander in all this. I don't want any shade said about Ammer, okay? Amma was just trying to run a race. Yeah, mining his own business. Keep politics out of horse racing, right?

So what happens on the, the 4th of June is that she essentially suicide bombs a horse, right? She runs out onto the track in her wedding cake hat, right? And she is flattened by Anma. She's just like diving headers into a horse. Basically. Dan burns it. 35 miles an hour collision.

The horse stacks it. The jockey falls off. And Davidson suffers a head injury from the impact. That's how fast it is. It says here, Anma had a reputation for being difficult and unreliable. That is written by a female research. That's bias.

I don't know why that's relevant. The horse is blameless in this instance. I don't know what the horse's politics were, but is irrelevant. It's irrelevant. You shouldn't ask what the horse was wearing. You shouldn't ask what you thought. Okay, it's an attack on a horse. So it's an attack on us all.

The horse thankfully survives the assassination attempt and moves to Canada and becomes a sire. Really? It's a happy ending. That's a lovely ending. It's a sort of like an Idiarmine sort of ending. It is, yeah. So Anmer eventually recovers from this.

The jockey, however, Herbert Jones, he has recurring nightmares and PTSD. Yeah, because it's like when train drivers, when people jump in front of trains. Yes. And they can have like... Yes, so he got a fucking 50 grand a year the rest of his life.

Yeah. So after his death in 1951, his widow receives flowers every year on the anniversary of the incident because former suffragettes sent them anonymously because they think Jones was an innocent victim of a tragedy. That's nice. It is

nice, but it's also, I mean, the suffragettes you know, it's like Putin saying, Putin sending it to progression's wife. Oh, sorry to hear. Sorry about that. Very good, man. My best friend. Now, what actually happened? What was she doing? Was she just wanted to kill herself? Maybe, although she was

found with like a return train ticket. Yeah. And supposedly she, quote, had plans. I don't think, you know, she had some lunches in the die, I don't know. People think what she was trying to do was pin a rosette on the horse so that the king's horse would cross the finish line wearing the colours of the suffragette movement, which would be a very big thing.

She should have done that before the horse left the traps. Yes, she should have. Because, you know, don't change horses in midstream. Yeah. Don't try and pin a rosette on a 35 mile an hour. I mean, you know. These are ancient proverbs. It's basic stuff.

And so she gets hit in the head hard. She wakes, she's in a coma. Yeah. Because basically she's got bleeding like a hemorrhage on her brain, fractured skull. So the doctors... She wakes up. Hello! Doctors treffinate her.

Which means they drill a hole in her head to let some of the bleeding out. To let some of the politics out. You don't want to ask me what I think. Part of me. Leave it to the men, I think. And then she dies on the 8th of June. and the cause of death is Misadventure.

Is it? Unknown. Unknown. Unknown. Suicide, we think. No, it's death by misadventure, which is the same way that Franz Reichel dies. Yes. So we should...

Probably the funniest deaths in history are misadventure. I was going to say we should have a... We should have a history of death by misadventure. We should have a leaderboard of the best deaths. I think Franz Reichels is the best because it's apolitical. He's not trying to make a statement. His statement is, I've got baggage trousers as I can apply. My mum had quite...

It was quite morbid. She'd send death by misadventures to another friend that they found quite funny. She was quite ashamed when I found out she was doing this. Oh, I did that to my best friend. What, you just send?

Yeah, like times, like headlines. A drunk middle-aged women after their kids had had like a birthday, they all decided to go on a bouncy castle but it wasn't tethered to the ground. And then a great gust of wind took the bouncy castle up and they all fell out and died.

Sorry, like a hot air balloon. They found it all out of a bouncy castle. They're all like with a glass of white wine. Sorry, it's the woman at bottomless brunch, but she's falling from the air from a bouncy car. That's awesome. I mean, Brazilian bungee jumper, of course. We've dealt with that.

One of the Brazilian dignitas, one of the greatest misadventure deaths. Yeah. I mean, that is probably, probably. I'm done that. Lunch. Should we call lunch now? Yeah. One of my favorites is the guy who got sucked into an airplane engine in the Amsterdam airport.

Yeah. Just queuing for a plane or whatever. what? He got basically made into mince by a jet engine. Amsterdam Airport, I think. Charlie really hates anything gruesome. I don't like it. Anyway, so Davidson's her funeral, again, it's weaponised for me off.

So all the fluff of jets are like, well, this would be a chance to make it. Would you pick at the funeral like West Barabapt's church? Yes, I would. Because I would. God hate slags. I would be there picketing the funeral this is a disgrace

this woman was a terrorist why we said she should have been buried at sea like bin Laden really and yet within hours of her death the WSPU recognised that the funeral

conservers are basically another parade right so the next day tens of thousands line the streets as Davidson's coffin is transported

through the capital we're looking at a picture of it now It's draped in the colours of the movement. They're all wearing white. So they're like walking up the aisle. I guess for some of these, for some of these troopers is the first time

they're ever going to get to wear white and walk up an aisle. You know, Flora, Flora Watson face isn't walking up the aisle, is she? There they are. There's some of the lesbian bodyguards there looking like a fleet of brand new white goods walking down the aisle.

Yeah. What fucking washing machine? Yeah, fridges is a washing machine, tumble dryer and an oven. Took down the British government. officials fear the funeral become a catalyst for renewed militancy

and they're aware that Davison's is a martyr figure and her gravestone is inscribed deeds not words which is kind of ironic I suppose

why because she died from deeds yeah yeah yeah words would have kept if she shouted from the race course rather than just walk in front of the horse

now it's quite an unusual story this because World War I basically gets and the way of it. Yeah. And what's fascinating is that when one breaks out,

the pancurs and the entire movement pack it in. Pack it in overnight. Yeah. Because it's a bit like when Ukraine war started and all the woke stuff stopped when I was like,

oh right, well, this is an actual war. Yeah, all the cultural war stuff, all the stuff about trans women and barrage. I was like, well, okay, people are dying, people are dying, right, let's stop that. Maybe we've got overused the word war. Yeah, we told that we don't know what a war is. It's not, it's not, you know,

who's taking the smelliest shit in a bar, or whatever that was about. I never really understood it. I don't think it was about that I don't think it actually was I don't know if it was trying to say No we have the smelier shit No I think it was about

The reason women's toilets Shouldn't have men pooing in them It's because men's poo is smelly I think that's what it was about actually And I think women should be allowed to poo Their sort of roses I don't care if a wig on You're still shitting out of male ass

Exactly It's a male ass Where's the poo coming from I don't care what you look like Yeah if you transgender your ass Which you're not going to By all means Then you can come through

The front is not the issue actually It's the ass that's the problem. Okay? You should be swapping your asses to get in the bathroom. Yeah. Right. Anyway, so Emmeline instantly U-turns and says,

what would be the good of a vote without a country to vote in? But this, I mean, the movement, there's a lot of controversy in there. The movement, they're like, what you're doing? Yeah. And the sort of vote, the movement kind of fractures, really. Sylvia Pankhurst opposes the war and is horrified by her mother's abandonment of what she would think is feminist principles. So am I right?

the suffragette movement kind of stops, never really picks up again. I guess it's the conservative and progressive arms of the suffragette movement. Yes. But they're still fundamentally quite conservative a lot of these women. Yes.

They just want suffrage, right? Yes. But they're still fundamentally a patriot. Yeah. You know. And so what ends up happening is that by the end of World War I, nearly a million women are employed

in making munitions. They're called munitionsettes. Yeah. And that they become sort of so synonymous with the war effort that within the space of four years, I mean, this is the great four years where you'd say probably the birth of like modernity, really, isn't the Edwardian age ends at the end of World War I?

And, you know, it's kind of like undeniable that when women have been doing the same things as men for four years, that they are not, they're equal. Right. In some respects. Some respects. And so resistance is so hard to justify. It is cheap. Well, they've learned how cheap labor is.

should get women to build HS2 we should get Flora Drummond to build HS2 single-handedly and so in 1918 Asquith by the way is gone Lloyd George is in and so without the staunched defender of male rights

Lloyd George collapses and the representation of the People Act of 1918 passes which means that some women over 30 can vote and men could vote from 21 so nearly 8.5 million women gain the vote overnight

and what do they do with it? What are they doing with it? do with it? What's the next election after that? Free Rose. Free Rose. The Free Rosé party. Rose on tap. Single issue party. The free Rosé party. 40% of the vote. National health service for Roseau. So then a decade later, 1928, equal franchise act means women have the vote on the same terms as men. Something that's, yeah, something is important to know is that my mom always brings up how recent history is that women got the vote and we always forget that it was like, it was only like 100 years ago that women can vote. This is an experiment. Yes. So it's very,

recent but to be fair it's almost as just as recent the men got the vote yes like people do talk about it like it's this kind of crazy new thing you're right there's not that far from men get when would when were all men allowed the vote because before it was just landed jet men it's like 10 years earlier something crazy like that 1918 men over 21 1920 so it was like 10 years before the men get the vote really sort of yeah yeah Basically. Yeah. So, um...

Wednesday, International Men's Day? Well, I don't know. When is it? It's illegal to celebrate it. Is it still like it and blue it all day? Is that what it is? So 1928, women can vote.

Um, Emmeline had died three weeks before this came into force. Uh, Christabel, uh, becomes a fucking, a vetist evangelist and writes a book about the apocalypse in the US. She thinks it's quite funny that one of the leading women,

we're like, right, you've raised a good point. You can have to have the, vote and then as soon as we've done that the world's gonna end she goes completely mental oh fuck she was completely mental the whole time why do we listen what have we done what have we done she's been wrong about everything else yeah of course why are we trusted and so uh women uh i you know it's i regret to say have the vote now let's just shout out to some countries that held on

the longest yeah uh Switzerland 1971 i mean that's unbelievable incredible in the 60s women can vote that's crazy Swinging 60s, not in Switzerland. One county... Portugal, 76. One canton in Switzerland held out until the mid-90s. One brave, stood alone.

Like Britain, they stood alone. They Dunkirked female suffrage. Incredible. Portugal 76. There's Rorke's drift, basically, is that one? No, you can't... No, and waves of women are coming down. No.

Lichtenstein, 1984. I don't know what Lichtenstein is. I can't even place that. I want to go there, but I want to go there. Namibia, 89. Fair play. That's where Francis Galton was measuring Bundes of the sexton. Kuwait, 2005.

When you're getting into the Gulf states. The UAE, 2006, Saudi Arabia, they're still holding on. So Saudi Arabia are the brave outliers. They are the askwith of the world. No, not yet. Now they can vote in local elections. in Saudi Arabia, I think.

Yeah. But they've only just... But that's a slippery slope. Well, again... Yeah. Yeah. It's the beginning of the end for the Saudis.

So that's the story of the suffragettes. Charlie, what have you learned today? Would you say they were terrorists? No. It's a complicated time. There's a lot of kink play at work as well. Yeah.

It's just saying that maybe the subject movement was more of an expression of kink play. There's a force feeding. There's a kind of power play. Do you think that... Both into it, both sides. I think. So there's the whole

suffragette thing. The tension was actually there was like a little bit of a forced danger to actually Oh, this is such a mess. You're being led away. It's such a mess. I fucking hate you.

I fucking hate you more. There's a kind of power play element that for both sides is undeniably and the kind of gurgling and the grunting would have played in set. Thank you very much. Thank you, Charlie. And just to wrap up,

can we just get like a Hall of Fame all the suffragettes we mentioned and let's just rank them in terms of attractiveness. I think it's what they... Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th,

join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free, from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcf walk.ca. Good one. Pankhurst, not for me.

Be rich for my blood. Sylvia Pankhurst, no thanks. Chrisville Pankhurst looks better there, to be fair to her. Who's that one, Charlie about that? She looks nice. Davidson, no. Is that half the horse? It looks like she's just trying to suck off a horse. No, thank you.

She talks out the best. Melissa and Forcett, I think, might be the best. And then, my God, no, no, no, no. Charlotte Despard, absolutely not. Any more for any more? Oh, Christ. Elizabeth Stanton. She was 29 years old.

Alice Paul, maybe. Mary Church, no. No, I guess, you know, in the same way, there's a stereotype about women who are more attractive and better in person, having less, women who are unattractive and better personalities. You could say the

suffragettes, you know, they weren't working on their looks. No. No. Yeah, it's true. So, yep, I'd say Millison Fawcett fit a suffragette for me. That's the end of the suffragette story. It's, well, it's some terrorist toads, kick up a fuss, and

only Saudi Arabia are holding out now. From all of us here, good. I will see you on the Patreon where we're talking about the first female MP, Nancy Astor. And if not, we'll see you next week for a new topic. Goodbye. Very well.