Fin vs History - Fleshlights to Fleshlights, Dust to Dust (with Joanne McNally!) | The History of Sex Work (Part 2)

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

Comic powerhouse Joanne McNally joins us to talk sex work from the Victorian era onwards, and also to act as the Pope’s representative on the Quickshot Launch Masturbator 3000 The History of Sex Work (Part 2/2) The show for people who like history but don't care what actually happened.  For weekly bonus episodes, ad-free listening and early access to series, become a Truther and sign up to the Patreon ⁠patreon.com/fintaylor Chapters; 00:00 - serving c*nt  04:03 - Do you like neckbeards?  07:58 - He strumpets  11:17 - Arcane slurs  14:31 - Molly houses  16:12 - Mother Clap  21:24 - Victorian Prostitutes  24:03 - overrun with whores  27:59 - contagious diseases act  31:22 - Modern day sex work  34:22 - Victorian laws  36:14 - World War sex  40:37 - Wine and Women  44:20 - German prostitutes  47:52 - Chemical prophylactic  49:34 - Nazi brothels  54:48 -Pinophile  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome back to Finnverse History. I'm with Horatio Gould and the phenomenal Joanne McNally. Look at this. What a treat. Absolute treat. Thanks, guys. A second woman has hit the podcast. I mean, my God. Wow. Yeah, I'm sorry to be on acid.

Yeah, look at this. Amazing. And dressed in a beautiful suit. Really nice. Dunning, to be fair. Most of the time, if we have guests on, they do look like they're attending a court appearance because they've never worn a suit in their lives.

Yeah, I'm a bit like that. What do you think? Am I wearing it well? It's very well. I feel like we're at the afters of a funeral. A little bit. Would you serve this much cunt at a funeral? Oh, yeah.

Would you? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how much. I heard the cogs turning as he decided whether to say that. No, no. But then. Should you serve this much cuntz, you agree that I decided to really go for it.

Duran's come here serving cut. Yes. It depends. If you don't steal the show, you don't want to steal the scene. But the person who's dead is, it's their moment. But Irish funerals, I would say, as an English Presbyterian, I've been to an Irish funeral. Voodoo. And I would say it is all.

I'd say it's voodoo nonsense. Yeah. And I'd say that everyone there was steen ceiling. I love an Irish funeral. It's about processing the death of a body. It makes sense. You're just told someone's dead and you never see them again. We hang out with the body and we process and we accept.

It's a better way of doing it. Have you seen Garnayan funerals? because we were talking about this. Yes. Have you seen this? Well, I've seen on TikTok, I don't know how Farah representate when they're dancing with the coffin and art.

That's also going to end, but what's amazing, look at this. So this is, um, what they do. They got, like, they got this, like, this culture of building specific coffins that represent that what they did in their life.

That's the corpse. That's a dead guy who was a taxi driver and they buried him in a rotating taxi. So that's what Irish funerals look like to us. Oh my God. Well, my father wasn't sitting up. Did they embalm your fun? But what would be,

what did they do in their life? life that defined them. What would your father's version of this be then? The work that went into that. How did they keep them sitting up? They're not that flexible at this point. I think there was somewhere where is it? They just crunched them up. That's actually, yeah, that's true. Yeah. There was some, I did, I know that there's some somewhere around the Brazil area. Do you tell? It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. This is not your phone to the right podcast. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not bought down in facts. No, neither are we. I like loose bits of information. Yeah. And they had, they were, they'd stuffed them and kind of they'd dance with them. Or do you see

these people who put on their own funeral when they're still alive just to see what it would be like like I can imagine I can imagine you'd be interested in something like that potentially but then I'd be worried they're like we're not going again we went the last time you know when you actually die it's going to affect the numbers but do you want both then yeah yeah I guess so but I would like to see the outpouring of pain yeah and I don't anyone to move on like do these wives who are like to their husbands move on and I wouldn't be down at all but then I feel if you're there it will take away you'd really like, you'd horn proceedings. Well, yeah.

If you're still alive, if you're sat third row. Go on then. Go on, let's listen to you. In the casket. I'd be in the casket. I'd have to make them think I'm dead. It's a full-blown, like,

mock-up funeral. But is the casket at an angle, so you're looking at everyone like that. You'd have to have a projection on the sealers and so you could keep an eye. Yeah. Like the Google doorbell or something so you could watch it all play out

from within the casket. Yeah. Who turned up and all. I know. I don't want to die privately or with it, the you know someone says like after a private battle mine will be public and you want like wailing right street wailing yeah yeah yeah i guess we are quite repressed funerals english protestant funerals it's it's it's just the same it's just any other day don't make a fuss yeah

don't move plans just get on with it another one's dead people are zooming into funerals now yeah i think that's weird i i found doing gigs if you can call them that on zoom i don't like i could see people's shorts It's weird. You could see their legs in their house. One of my favorite Zoom funeral stories. I've told the story before, but whatever,

who cares? And I'm probably not to our audience. This is the first time I imagine our audience of thick young men and not thick with two seas. I mean, lost. These are some hideous people.

I'm here to recruit the incels. Yeah. Yes. That's what I'm here for. You are definitely not going to find a husband here, though. These are truly repulsive people. Really?

Yeah. I like a gamer. I like a man in his, like a Nintendo. Not these ones. Do you like a neck beard? A what? A neck beard.

So it's just like bum, fluff hair around, yeah. Novelty t-shirt. Fedoras? Fedoras. Are they sitting around? Oh, yeah, yeah. With our listeners, yeah, big time.

Aviator sunglasses, shorts with lots of pockets on them, loads of pockets. I think the image is becoming clear to me. Velcro sandals. If you were getting, Joanne, if you were getting married to one of our patrons,

they would turn up in a purple fedora with a female body inspector t-shirt cargo shorts and a penknife on them. Oh, there he is. If you want your body inspected by a female body inspectors, then you come to the right place. He went to the trouble of shaving around the beard. That's our oldest patron.

That's our first one. That's our first one. That's patron zero. Sometimes people ask, do I have men in my DM? Because they're like, oh, you must get lads in your DMs. And when I say, it's, like, they're, I am their type. It's how many lads like that. There's a sort of horny disparity right between male and female comedians, right? I feel.

Oh, yeah. Because like the DMs, I think, apparently gag hags. Like, there's not as many, like, gag hags the other way around. Men are not interested in funny women in the same way. They're not.

Threatened. Yeah. It's all power. Terrified. Yeah, they don't come in. Whereas with the, what do they call them, clown fuckers, you know? They love it.

Yeah. I'm attracted to funny men. That's really attractive. Yeah. But then men are funny women, it's like, no. Come on. No.

Stop joking around. Take your pants on. I always say, whenever we discuss stuff like that, I'm always aware because I'm kind of saying that every woman in a relationship is just a really boring

bitch but that's not true I just think especially when you're on stage men aren't they're not it's not a turn on no no no it's not do you get many horny guys in your shows

it's a cock block no one time in Dubai there was four straight guys in the show and to this day I was like what's going on there was they thought

it was Joe Welvin were they all friends yeah were they sent was they sent that because they'd been caught shagging on a beach or something

was like I felt like one of the least punishment not a hand between them just like bleeding bleeding wrists now We're cracking into the history.

We're cracking into the history of sex work. Now, this is part two in our series, and the last part, you went here, Jambo. We talked about sex work in the Roman times, the Pompeii, brothel. To be honest, we barely talked about it. Barely talked about it.

We mainly talks about how horrendous British porn is. Yeah, British porn is bad. You don't go local for your porn. The guys with the little dolls. You know the guys riding the dolls now? I don't know this. Oh, and Charlie's our porn expert. He's actually a man on the ground.

You know the guy's riding the man. He's like when you cut to someone. He's like a North America. American editor. He's our porn. He's John Soaple, but for porn. You know the guys riding the dolls. It's kind of female focus porn, if you know what I mean. They have sex with the fake plastic dolls. Are they robot dolls? Well, they've no arms. They're just a torso and genitals. It's the female, is the female, is the female gay? Exactly like the CPR. Is that a bit of roleplay where it's like someone showing someone a CPR and then it gets a little bit hot and heavy.

That's not porn. That's just a safety demonstration. It's a medical training video. They have no genitals. Are you getting stepmom get stuck in more? machine. Are you getting that? No. So I guess that's more male focus point. Can you get that up, Charlie? Charlie, get up. Um, stepmom gets stuck in a washing machine. This is what we're getting. Uh, get stuck in washing machine. So this is a male fantasy at the moment. So it's like this sort of stuff. Oh, okay. Okay. It's too. It's too rapid now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is a big thing. Because obviously that's more realistic. Yeah. She's trapped in. So she gets trapped. Her head's not even stuck. She's loads of room to run. I know. I know. It's like cows and stairs. Cows can go upstairs. They can't go down them. Women can go in. Women can go in. Women can go in. Women can go. to washing machines they can't come out. They need to be fucked loose.

Anyway, speaking of which we're talking about sex work. Now, I think we should start with the 18th century male sex work

in London. The he strumpets. Interesting. We haven't really talked about gay sex work too much on the last episode. No. No.

But now Joanne's here. Let's get into it. Have you ever used, do you frequent sex workers? I've never had it. I think it's much more a male sport, really. Like darts.

But there is a. You don't hear a lot of women going to women going to male sex workers. No, I think the closest you can see in like popular culture, not popular culture, but I've heard about it is like the Japanese women renting a boyfriend. Yeah. So you can have like a boyfriend experience. Yeah.

And I hate to stereotype, but I feel like women are in for it more the emotion. It's not as much a transaction for us. You just pay to release yourself. You'd rather your step one get stuck in a washing machine. Yeah. You speak in our audience's language. You pay to release yourself. You just pay to release yourself.

It's like a wank sleeve with eyes. Yeah, you get milked. Yeah, you get milked. It's disgusting. Joanne, you're reading out my wedding vows. I love you, I pay to release myself, whatever, whatever. Whereas I'd be more like, do you love me if I was a worm, you know? You're paying someone to...

Would you still love me if I was a worm? And not rolling their eyes. That's what you've paid for. If you're a worm, can I shove you up my ass? Brilliant. It's a transaction. I want to be loved and adored and respected. So we're talking about gay male prostitutes.

Yes. The Heist Trumpets was a book written by John Dunstan. who's a London satirist in the early 18th century and these satire reflects a public moral anxiety is the original gay panic we're all aware of men my kind of age

who you know our hands accidentally touch oh shit and then I have to go and have a shower different country yeah passport change Mexico see you later divorced I'm gay now I'm gay now I'm living I'm living the second half gay in Mexico my name's Alejandro it's completely different I touched my business partner's hand

and I've had to leave my family because now I guess I'm gay Poor man I know It's a mental illness Being a straight man It is Nowadays probably Because if you're not in a relationship

You know one touches you You don't touch you don't touch each other at all The Fleshertron 3,000 Touch me Get the Flehertron 3,000 What is it called? Quick shot launch master Can I see the flesh of that

No here we go It's like a kettle Yeah What the fuck is that Get with the model in there Get the photo with it She comes with it She doesn't come with it

Famously she does not come with it I think it says Women sold separately I believe. That's hilarious. And how does this work now? You hold onto the handles, you put it over your Johnson. Your Johnson goes in there and then it

Yeah, but you see, this is also like sexually based. I just mean like human touch. Like a cuddle. I hate to a cuddle. You got a handles. Of course, I'm talking about the lack of mail on the connection. You're showing me a wanking kettle.

Cuddling's fucking gay. I've got the fucking Grapetron. Fucking a fruit dehydrator. I've got my sex air friar. I don't need to fucking cuddle. Look at that. That's fake. That's AI.

That's no way. That doesn't look. It's got a tongue and teeth. And it goes, I love you. Who wants a whine sleeve with teeth? Surely you don't you want the teeth gone. That's a man's mouth. In early 17th.

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Please play responsibly. So men were called mollies. There's a slang term for gay men called mollies. I'm as a fan of slurs. It's not great. Feminate ones I'm quite Molly's kind of cute

I think so Yeah But the way you like slurs You don't like them cute Do you? No, I just like them arcane Yeah I like bringing them back

Right I like getting away with stuff People I'm heard of That's what I like Yeah But what is your favourite Homophobic slur then Um

I don't know She rank them Top five Top five Homophobobic slur Yeah Woody woof does pretty good Willie woofder

Willie woofter Oh that's cute Billy Bontz is quite good That's good That's good I do like I do like Puff But I know it's not my choice

Puff is a I think it's kind of cute, but I understand that gay men don't like it, but I do think it is quite a cute term. Gay men don't like any of this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Gay Lord is still good. I like.

But you like Gay Lord because it implies a fief, like a feudal system. It also gives them a lot of respect to high rank. Yeah. Because there's gay peasants as well, but they don't get talked about. The gay lord, they own land. Yeah, there's a parody to it. Yeah. You're in a position of pirate.

So sodomy is a capital offence in English law under the Buggery Act of 1533. And did you know, I don't think it doesn't get, stop being an offence till John Major. John Major comes in and legalises anal. Woke nonsense. Sodomy isn't just anal. Sodomy is just anything that doesn't lead to, like, to kids. Is this an Irish perspective? No, it's true.

That's what sodomy is. It's oral as well. So basically going down a woman, you're doing sodomy. Can you find the sodomy laws in Ireland? Because I wonder what, because I mean, talking about like, gay panic, like, I guess it was like a arms race between Britain and Ireland. at this point. Sodomies decriminalised in 93.

All right. There you go. Because you guys did an unbelievable 180, right? We did. You're like the most like, we kicked the church out. And then it became like super woke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've done great work in a small amount of time.

Yeah, so very quick. Very quick. But we were gagging. Too much too soon. We were gagging to get out from under the church. They ran our schools and all. It was nuts. My auntie Joan, she's dead now, God love her.

But she used this back in the day, she was in UCD, which is where I went as well, the University College Dublin. and she remembered them put they put condom machines up in the canteen or whatever the student's unit and then all these sirens were like

nino, nino and all the guards arrived and like ripped them off the wall It was crime, crime, crime condom place condom police yeah imagine they'd seen your wang sleeves they would have fucking had a nervous rating

with the teeth and the tongue they would have got a swap team in to take on the kettle what's the what's the Catholic view and the launcher what's the Pope think about the quick shot masturbation Because if he hasn't mentioned it specifically, I think it's all right.

There's nothing about the quick shot launcher in the Bible, I don't believe. That is the, I'm sorry, it's the most pathetic looking thing I've ever seen. The actual visualising, visualising a man. Joanne, that's my Proseco, all right? I go for a quick shot launch with the guys. You need to regulate yourself in a better way, guys. My new tour show is called the Quick Shot Launch Express. What a great finale.

What a great finisher. Yeah, exactly. me and my Elvis letters It takes longer sometimes short of others Long encore tonight I don't know 20 minute encore It was grim by the end

Anyway listen Molly houses they were called And so severely punished The gay men developed these sort of social spaces Yeah But the crucial thing is The historians say right

That these molly houses These gay brothels Some people So just in your voice It's so cute isn't it? It always sounds like Not to go to a Mali house. These gay brothels.

I mean, that's you talking about Café Nero, for God's sake. These bloody gay brothels. Cafe Nero. No, I don't want to go to Cafe Nero. I'm not gay.

But they argue that they went, some men would go there for to chit-chat. It wasn't just all buggery. Oh, for the boyfriend experience. Men would want the boyfriend experience. I mean, I would go to moirmed. I would go to moirmed. But the moral reform group,

they basically, their mission was to eradicate all this Molly chit-chit-chat, including sodomy. And they would use undercover arrests, informants. Imagine being a straight... I'll do this one. Yeah. I'll do this one.

Imagine being a gay mole or a straight mole in the gay community. It's like Nigel. You've been a gay mole for like 15 years. You haven't caught anyone. I'm deep under cover. I'm deep. If I catch them now, it won't... I need to get the whole ring at once.

I'm balls deep undercover in there. This whole thing is going to blow wide open. Yeah, I mean, how much you... How much you... How much you need to show results before you stop? It's like having to prove yourself in the drug cartel. Yeah. So you've got to go in there and go down on everyone.

Yeah. You've got to kill someone immediately in the drug cartel to show that you're committed. You've got to suck them all off to show loyalty. And then you've got to start blabbering to the straight and forwards. But by the 1720s, there was, there was like, they were monitoring gay brothels in like, I don't know, I imagine like police outside of donuts. But you get to Mother Clapp's Molly House, which was a coffee house. So there you go. Café Neuro. In Hoburn.

Yeah. And her house was a hub of underground gay social life from 1724 until 1726 when it was raided. 40 men a night would gather. And the raid in 1726, it was when informants had been gathering evidence against Mother Clapp's, Molly House. Gathering evidence. And some patrons became informers themselves to avoid prosecution. I do think gay people would make quite a good informants

Go on Chit chat Right, fair enough They love a gossip Yeah And so in the famous raid on the molly house Constables surround the house

On a Sunday night Prevent Escape 40 men are arrested And taken to Newgate prison Police reported many men In various states of undress And behaviour interpreted as deviant And I like this detail There was no actual evidence

Of anyone caught in the act of sodomy But circumstantial evidence such as unbuttoned breaches were cited in indictments. Well, if you not catch me doing sodomy, can I not just say, can a man not hang out with his men? You know, we could be saying

we were talking about, you have a button under your trousers, you're a filthy homo, get in the bin. We could have been discussing what we're going to do about all these homos. With your flies undone?

Yeah, exactly. I could be Mother clap at another life, I'd say. I think so. Mother clapped. I have a lot of gay male friends. I'm a bit of a fire car, I'd say, I just running a funny evening

with her gay male friends. Yeah. So you'd be running a gay brothel. I could see that for me in another life. Yes. do for companies. Or maybe you did that and you've been, it's calmer and you get

reincarnated that you've done that in another life for sure. Mother Clap gets tried for keeping a disorderly house, which is a euphemism for letting men have sex in it? Disordily? My house is quite disorder at the moment.

Well, I guess it's not an orderly house. There's a lemon party in my living room. There's loads of men shagging in your house. I guess it's not a house filled with order. Get Marie Kondo in. There's a bunch of gay bloods in my kitchen. But procuring sodomy. And at her trial, informants

testified to the behaviour seen at her house. Yeah. The only defense she could mount was that she was a woman and therefore it cannot be thought I would ever

be concerned in such practices. Wait, so that's interesting. That's a good defense, right? You're saying, I'm a woman, I don't know what gay men are.

Yeah. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't even know if I saw it, you know. I'm putting the kettle on the kitchen. God knows what they could look to. It's not my problem. I'm just hosting my friends.

Boys be boys. Yeah. That's the Michael Barrymore defense. Marley's going to Molly. What happened with Barrymore? He hosted a pool party where a man

allegedly got bum to death in his paddling pool. Oh, now he's doing TikToks, this guy, yeah. Yes. It's what TikTok is for. It's a safety net for men who have allegations. Sorry, explain it again, sorry. He hosted a pool party where allegedly a man got bummed to death at his pool party.

Remember Jack to you had that great, great joke? What was it? When they found the poor man in the pool, he said he'd seven types of semen in him. He said, well, my friends come around, we make pasta. I feel bad laughing at him, though, but there is. But was he bombed to death? Something happened. There was, you know, there's a clinton.

I'm not a coroner, but I believe he was bummed to death. Right. Too much Malian. Yes. The defence is it was my pool party, but I'm not taking responsibility. And so he got off Scott Free? I don't know. I mean, he definitely didn't do, what would he host?

It wasn't Starzman. There's been some reputational damage. Yes. He's now on TikTok, I guess, is the punishment. One of the mollies that got caught, Gabriel Lawrence, was a milkman. He was convicted of sodomy, hanged. And his body was publicly dissected for like a post-mortem. analysis of what, you know, what's going on

inside a gay man's body. Oh, like phrenology. Like sort of, yeah. Right. Are you aware of phrenology? No. This was... Is it where they stuff people? No. This is a science that Finn's trying to bring back. I'm an amateur phrenologist. It's, it's the study of people's head sizes versus their IQ. Yeah. Very good. Which the Irish, they didn't come off well in the

chronology time. Well, don't you know that when they found it a woman's brain is smaller than a man's? This is, you're speaking my language. Yeah. However, the title thing came back to say we are of equal intelligence we've just packed ours better phrenology was before that woke nonsense

came in so it's like a car boot phrenology was it's just about the size of the head is the phonology what's it when you know those big kind of yeah you see the diagram

of the brain and it's like this part of the brain is for interior design this is your pido button there's a pito button that you hope you don't I remember reading something someone before they were saying

that's why a lot of men get erased by women urinating on them because the urinary part of the brain here we go this is good. And the sex part of the brain, they're beside each other. Now, again, facts are fudge.

If you fall off a swing when you're four years old, you might hit your sex bit into your piss bit. Yeah. Sodomy remains legal until 1861. Underground gay networks persist in London to this day. But this is not actually underground, right? This is not. It could be.

I've never seen one. Yeah. Can you do think cafe deero? You just see men burrowing down with her head torches. They're now called Costa coffees, caffeineros. Whatever you want to call them, I'm not going in one.

When Thatcher closed the minds, this is why it's all come up since then, right? Yes. Think about how it's no longer underground. It's because they don't have a place to do it anymore. Now, Victorian London was not a great place to be a sex worker. Right. This is Jack the Ripper's, you know,

he was wreaking havoc on Victorian prostitutes. Well, can I say something? Please. Let her cook. You're so in sync. I read something recently where I was saying that there's actually no evidence that those women were prostitutes.

Oh, yeah, yeah. But there's a big book saying that the word prostitute for those women was anyone who wasn't married. Yeah. It's called The Five. Yes, I read it.

And this is what Finn believes as well. But I dispute that. Okay. Yeah. But I also call anyone who's not married a prostitute. It's why we've got you on to talk about sex with.

Fair. This little harlip from up the road. So she gets around. This is a great single comic, I know. Joanne'll do. Joanne's that prostitute comic. The swag with gags. Now, Victorian, yeah, you're right.

They weren't prostitutes. They were just up at night, I guess. I know. They're just on a lay one. Walking. Parall walking, getting their steps in. Suspicious. That's all I'm saying.

Now, in Victorian London, there was a quote, common prostitute, which was a, which maybe is what, that was a woman who didn't have a husband. Common prostitute. Um, but eventually, uh, law ruled it was anyone offering sex for gain was a prostitute. I mean, that is literally what sex is. Yeah. Yeah. This is what we're trying to talk about on the last episode. It's like every, what level is the transaction. Yeah. It's always a transaction of

sort. Exactly. I do. I do it for lifts. Yeah. Bit of affection. Yeah. At what level is that, you know. Airfare. Eye contact. But even like, Matt. No, I don't know. But even like marriage is a isn't it, you know? Of course. Yeah, it's a long-term sex. Sex, money, income, cleaning the house. If there's nothing in it for me, I won't do it. Yes. Everything is transactional.

I sleep in the other room. They're just honest about it. Yeah. Or sometimes as well on dates. I'm like, I'm like, I'm a little sex worker. Because if they're like, oh, I'll get this, but I know I'm never going to see them again. I won't let them. But if I know, I'll probably hook up at them at some point.

I'll let them pay. So why won't you, you won't let them because then they expect too much from you. Yeah. I'm like, you'll let you pay. Because if I, I know that if you pay. There's an expectation. I think it's really mean to let a lab pay. You're rattling the cage.

And then just walk off into the night. You are. Yeah. That's not fair. I do think that there is. But actually, dog's home. You're smashing on the cage with your cage. Yeah.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I do. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. But so I guess if you're on a date with you and you offer to pay. You'll know.

That's a terrible sign. No, no, no. I'll get this. Yeah. You know, it's not happening. Interesting. Now, it wasn't until the 1890s after disputes about West End mansion flats being let to women selling sex

that courts decided a brothel was a place with more than one prostitute working right that's good to clear that up isn't it otherwise it's just a house really isn't us yeah yeah or a cafe near right yeah um just a woman's home just a woman's fucking out every woman's house yeah

the second her friend knocks in it's a brothel you live in a brothel owner or you brothel owner brothalowner right that's nice yeah do you know all right for myself you know so now the statistics were obviously wildly inflated but because people were panicked about the scourge

of prostitution. Someone estimated there were 80,000 prostitutes in London. Yeah, but that's them looking out the window going, oh,

he does include any woman who's not married. Right, right, right, right. In reality, there was somewhere around 8,000. So this is around the time we Jack the Ripper.

You can't be too careful, I think. I think it's better to just catch all the term is broad. It's quite the umbrella going to gather is part a lot of women underneath that doesn't it?

Yeah. Well, is that why there's broad? Is that a slang for a prostitute or just woman? Brass, isn't it? No, that's police. Braser is probably. Have you got the Irish slang for prostitutes that would be unique to Ireland?

I don't think so. Slag's a very English term. Yeah. Slags. Harlet, that's a very English term as well. Nothing that's, nothing that strikes me. Nothing in Gaelic. Hoorah?

Hoorah. Hoorah. Hurra. That's a variation of four. Oh, is it? Brasser comes from cork, maybe. Oh, is it? Maybe a brass is an Irish thing.

Hewer. Hewer. Are you from Cork? No, Dublin. Right. Yeah. Do you not, could you not tell the accent. I could tell.

Cork is very. very little to you. Yeah. And you're north. Dublin. South Dublin. Yeah. And it's the other way.

What's the rougher part? Well. Because it's D. Stereotypically isn't north side of Dublin. I didn't want to say, but I get confused between rough Dublin and Cork. That's where. So it's why I said Cork and then you've. So I'm posh, Dublin.

Oh, really? Yeah, I know. You think I'm just bono with tits. You can't tell. But I am. I get a lot of shit in Ireland for my accent. It's the most hated accent in Ireland, apparently. Is it?

According to my. people in my DMs. Is it like, what is that D6? It's very preval. It's like that real. Like, what would you call it here? You know that really posh English accents? It's like Laura Coosburgh, posh Scottish.

Yes. Where it's all flattened. That fires me up. Like, you know, the Chelsea, it's kind of Chelsea. Right. Assume privilege, everyone thinks you're a country. Right, right, right. But then Conno McGregor's from the rough part of Dublin.

That's your bloody podcast co-host. Don't be so hard on book. And then Cork is, whose horse is that? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. A little less offensive. Someone hailing a taxi in court. No, Beemish is great.

It's great. Anyway. Very kind of your fan. Thank you. I have got so many tickets. I've got so many tickets to selling cork. They've booked a big old theater. Where are you doing a cork?

The Everyman, which I'm excited about. It's good. It's such a nice room. It looks amazing. Yeah. But, um, no, it's obviously. You spent your life. This is why I'm here.

Yeah. Yeah. I got it now. It's all making sense. And also you should say your tour is called one of, it's one of the greatest names for a tour I've ever seen. Go on. Pinofile. Pinofile. Duran likes a drink and she's called a show Pinofino. Pino. Do people shout that in the audience? No. No. I'm waiting. I'm a female audience. They're not like at a football

match. They're not a hula. Pino. Pino. Because if our fans come at the stage door, they'll ask you who you're there to meet and stuff and they'll try and vigilante arrest you. Yeah. How's the key for your toilets in the break then? Well, we have to open the lads. Really? Yeah. You have to knock through? We knock through. I have the opposite problem. Of course. Well, you see, the problem is that women... Can you guys do a two-hander? That's hilarious.

That would be amazing. Yeah. And my tour show, I turn like the Hackney Empire into the fucking football ground. Yeah. In that the toilets are just fucked. Yeah. But at least men have a quick turnaround time for the toilets, whereas women, there's Q and out the door.

And I'm like, girls, just fuck go. Are they putting their legs on the urinals? Apparently there was, there was a couple riding in the males toilets in the last Dublin show. That's good. That's nice. Right. So where are I, the Contagious Diseases Act in the 1860s.

This is aimed at controlling syphilis. among soldiers because people have come to come back from the Crimean War. Florence Nightingale, one of the first prostitutes. Prostute. Well, is she married? I don't know. You're right.

Exactly. What a whore. Florence Nightingale was a dirty prostitute who infected many men during the Crimean War. I sure she did. I think she gave them all early age. She revolutionized nursing, yeah, I bet she did. Apparently syphilis is back. Is it? With a bang. Yeah, it's like the new fidget spinner.

It's everywhere. I'm a friend who works in sexual health and she's syphilis the numbers are flying back up which I thought it's quite quaint syphilis to me is very old school like kind of we're going back to basics though yeah I think syphilis is people die from syphilis it's bad it goes into your brain sends you

lula yeah what happens with syphilis what's the symptoms what do you get? I don't know but I know that you do like a lot of the old kind of you know the old and day riders and stuff all had it's almost like kind of a bit cool it's all yeah yeah I guess syphilis is cool yeah I'd like to bring syphilis back. Like Pete Doherty, kind of romanticised

drugs, I'd like to do the same for syphilis, dysentery, gout, these are all old school, dysentery, gout, but I think gout's come back in. I love it's my friend. I know people who have gout, yeah, yeah. Tom Lucy has gout in his toe. Tom Lucy's got gout. Really? That's quite funny. He's very off brand to have gout. I didn't think you... Well, he's well off. It's kind of a rich man's

game, really, isn't? I guess you're right. It's a lot of, like, gus and anchovies. Yeah. Yeah. patte. Yeah. It's a patte attack scout, yeah. Anyway, so Florence and Iter girl, filthy brass that she is, infects a load of soldiers during the Crimean War. For Christ's sake, Florence, it's a war zone. Did you take that dick out your mouth and start healing people? Anyway, these, um, women have to go regular genital inspections with speculums. Women?

Is it women, Phoebe? No, it must be men. Now, speculums are, that's not that Biscop. Oh, sorry, the prostitute, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the speculum? It's like a, is a winch. Is it a fanny winch? Biscop spread is speculoos, I believe.

Okay, right, right. Speculum is some kind of... But is it like, you know, when you're lifting a car up and you like winch it off? Is it like that in the fanny? Yeah. Let's see under the hood. Yeah.

See what's going on down there. Yeah, I like to go down to my wife with a little trolley like that. With wheels. Wheel under the hood like that. You come back, oil stains off. You mean black face. Yeah, big oils bill underneath there. Christ.

Anyway, yeah, so these prostitutes had to undergo these speculums inspections. And refusal would mean arrest or prison. Basically, what we learned from the last episode is that everyone had a pretty liberal understanding of sex work. It was sort of built into the culture. It wasn't a big deal. And it was just basically British Victorians. Yes.

Who we're like, we're like outliers. We viewed it as sinful and disgusting. and shameful, and then because of the British Empire, we just exported that. So basically every other culture has been sort of fine with it until the... Oh, like, India, Japan, you know, sex workers, it's not a pejorative, there's no stigma to it, it's just part of life. And it's British... On a boat saying, get that out of your mouth immediately.

And you know yourself, the more you add shame to something, the worse it gets. Yes. Yes. I was in Amsterdam recently, and I was walking past a woman in a window. and it was like 10 a.m. And I was like, how the fuck is she doing that at this time in the morning? Well, you don't know what shifts are?

No. But like imagine having to ride a stranger at 10 a.m. But I guess it's like... It's still bright outside. And there's lots walking through like they're looking for omelets. Like, they're looking for their breakfast. You want...

But I guess you get into the mode where it's just the job, right? I'm a night rider, even if it was in a professional capacity. But would you rather be like working retail? Like, what's standing your feet in top shop for 12 hours? Yeah. You know, they're both just jobs at the end of the day. A hundred.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Although, yeah, it is. Yeah. It's a particular type of job. Yeah. Like I went to the museum in Amsterdam, the museum of prostitution. And I think we've been kind of brainwatching to think it's this really empowering thing.

Because we're looking at Bonnie Blunel. And then I went to the museum and I was like, this is grim as fucking. You know, for all the unshackling of shame, I sort of think I'd love my kids to do it. No, exactly. We're just used to seeing these young ones on TikTok with their burke and bags and they're counting cash and they're gorgeous. and they've had a night out with the Russian guy and then they're like the reality of it though it's not ideal.

But then his only fans is there's quite like a middle class element there's quite a lot of middle class girls who do only fans? Only fans is the access point is so easy now because back in the day and it's obviously for the better and better like sex workers down to walk the streets

they're safer but it means like I could get home after a couple of drinks and be like fuck it get my tits out and then suddenly it's on a gradual and then you're not making enough money because you're not getting your you know you're not doing it all

but you're doing it anyway you might as well charge for it yeah but then you're like these 18 year olds you're like you're a sex worker now by accident in your parents open your parents attic i mean what i do know a lot of friends who are not i guess like sex workers but they'll have a creepy man on the internet who will try and buy like one or two pictures really yeah and i know a lot of people like that wow i know like he's a creepy man you've had friends i i've missed in the whole time i'm messaging all my friends saying can i buy some of you i know a friend group where there's

just one guy who's obsessed with all of them and they they get drunk and they'll send him a couple of like bathroom selfers. Yeah, for a bit of money. I have a friend who's, he keeps asking for more and more and then he asks for a vaginal video, video, as I call it. Well, I mean, it was only going one way. But then he, then they screen recorded the porn and tricked him. So they said, that's not fair. That's not cricket. You're livid. That man's been missal. I want to start, uh, advert saying, have you been mistoled, vagina pictures. I do girl, she wrote into the podcast that we do, and she said that when she's sending like, like sexy photos to lads she numbers them because you know what lads are like they send

the photos around to their mate so she's like if anything gets out or like it comes back to me she'll know she has like an excel talk of who she's said number one oh three yeah she'd be like oh horatio i sent that to horatio which means he's got the leak right he's the one that's also unfair i don't think you should be doing that no that's you know that's no honor amongst thieves my personal group chat with my friends is my business right now the point is is that Victorian laws are still with us today

brothel laws for 1885 persist making it illegal for women to work together indoors I think that's across any business so your podcast your podcast with Vogue that's a crowd 100 grand yeah

we should say you host a big podcast with Vogue Williams called the rapist ghosted me that's it yeah yeah always like it's a weird complaint. So the rapist hosted me actually, weird complaint, I think. I will say,

they put ads down in the tube stations and global who we do with they did these like, I don't know why, it was a weird design choice. They're kind of stacked, the posters are stacked

because global news agents were in front. And then we were kind of coming out the left in another podcast was coming out the way it was it was just my face and rapist over it

because whatever way. And Vogue was annoyed. She's like, I'm not in it. And I was like, fucking lucky you. I'm just down to the tube but rapist out of my head

It's a public safety ad Yeah Listen to the newsagetist also This one was a rapist anyway I'm just down there signing it And standing for photographs To lie about myself Hans Christian Anderson

Would go to brothels Just to cry and talk to the women There you go That'd be that's something I could accommodate Yeah What did he do again? I forgot He wrote kids books

Kids books I suppose what was his big ones Pepper Pig Pepper Pig Pepper Pig He did Hansel and Gretel, didn't he? He did the big ones, the big, the heavy hitters. No, it's the Little Mermaid.

It's like it confused with him in the grim tales. I think it's a little mermaid. Hansen Gretel. Oh my God, you're dead right. Yeah. Hans Christian Anderson did the ugly duckling. In 1885, the age of consent was raised from 13 to 16. Madness.

It made procuring girls for prostitution illegal. Let's get into sex during wartime. Now, during World War, War one and two, sex, prostitution, and venereal disease became matters of military discipline and national security. I still think there's some value in framing it as this. Yeah. For Christ's sake, we're at war.

War with gonorrhea. Yeah, got your brain of the gutter kind of thing? Yeah. They feared the impact of syphilis and gonorrhea on manpower, morale, and combat readiness. So the result was what historians call a prophylactic dictatorship, which is probably what you experienced in Ireland with the SWAT team coming up to break off the kettle launch, masturbator, whatever they do. So this was imposed on women rather than men.

Of course. Obviously. So by the end of the First World War, nearly half million hospital emissions among British and Dominion troops were due to VD, which is quite funny to be a veteran. Yeah, I served. Yeah, I've got an injury.

Yeah, my dick's a bit sore. And they're blaming women for this. It stings when I pee because of the Nazis. By 1918 alone, 60,000 British soldiers were hospitalised in France for VD. He's going to put their lives on the line, not let them have a ride. It's awful. But don't be doing that in a trench. I mean, trench foot's one thing, but trench dick, can you imagine?

Wait, so what's the law saying don't, don't d, drag brant, brasses? Yeah, Christ. So VD basically cripples an army. Yes. Because there's no one hornyer than an army, really. They also think they're going to die. Yeah. Yes, so just how I mean. Go for it. Was it World War II where they were rubbing the cloths on their

vaginas and then throwing them out to the box. Yes, it was. It was Dunkirk. Yeah. In, in Dunkirk, when the soldiers had arrived in or just before Dunkirk they'd arrived in France World War II they were bored because the Germans weren't attacking yet

so they women would rub their knickers or cloth on their like a tunton cloth or whatever they just rub it on their fanny pussycloth thank you

they throw it into out a window and then men would just kind of just try and find the cloth like sort of yeah that's a nice thing to do swarming or

well I suppose that's you can buy knickers in Japan out of a vending machine dirty knickers yeah do you remember orange is the new black they're all posting their knickers out yeah yeah it's big business Japan has dirty knickers vending machine

yeah it's really some fuck stuff you see the men on the on the tube in Japan and all like it's fucking weird yeah they have a very strange they do don't they're into really weird stuff yeah they are and then you have like there's like a school children bar yeah but they're big into this hello kitty vibe

the like the men are big into the and then they blur the vagina and cocks and they're always crying I had got I had a guy a friend of my move to Japan he'd say to his girlfriend you don't have to fake cry I'm not into it

because their culture is that the women kind of you know do I want to do or not is a consensual During sex they fake cry Yeah I've never seen that on the on the on the telly Yeah

You don't see it But we were talking about the Americanisation Of You're not seeing the Japanese women crying During sex on the telly What's going on? I'm trying to watch family fortunes Why is Japanese women crying?

They kind of they kind of weep or like it's like maybe I don't want to you know right that's a big turn on yeah so it's big over there but he had to be like listen will you please stop crying your grant yeah unless it's real unless you're genuinely upset then we should talk about it yeah but you wouldn't know because it's boy you're crying she was faking it that's why you should keep tears out of the bedroom yeah you should you're right should be a right this has gone wrong yeah not like oh of course you're doing that again you're always crying during it what level are they're not like booing are they they're not like it would be ugly cries

Pathetic. Pathetic. Is it even in? Is it even in? No. It's not like the end of Rocky. Adrian. It's like, it's cute. Coming down on face. It's like a cute, sexy, sot-kettish. Yeah. That's the idea. Cockatish is a great. No, it's not giggling now. She's crying. She's crying. She's upset. And they're loving us. Yeah. Oh, no. I think split the difference. Do you know what? And do what? Unblown. A sigh. A sigh. You can sigh. I prefer a moan to a sigh. Yeah. Yeah, kind of an ira. But this is a moan. Christ.

Disinterest is attractive. There is something in there, aloofness. Go on then. Yeah. All right, go on. Let's have a minute. Because people are feeling like they're the horny perv and they just think they're disgusting.

They like that dynamic. Yeah. Some of them, not me. Them. Them. They them. All people like feeling like they're disgusting. Now, in 1914, Lord Kitchener,

who's that guy with a tower shoot, this country wants you. It's every British soldier copy on the true character of the British soldier, like a little manual for the troops, advising them to avoid wine and women. But beer and men, go, how about it? Get the pints and gnotch each other off, lads. We're going to war.

Obstained from intimacy, the realities that soldiers completely ignore it. As one officer put it, quote, it is not reasonable to expect young men to keep their chastity inviolate in war. Or more bluntly, General Patton said, if they don't fuck, they don't fight. Wow. So I guess it's like, you know, boxers, you're not meant to... Or any sport people, isn't it? I don't know.

I think boxing especially because it's all, you know, you need that testosterone more than maybe. Yeah, it's like, it's semen retention. I don't think badminton is being crippled by busting the right before. I got a friend of mine who's been on, who's basically masturbated every day since he was 12. You got a lot of friends. You've got some weird sex stuff. Is this a friend of mine, but he started a diet of semen retention and he says it's actually been really changed his life. What's, sorry, what is that?

Do you know about semen retention? I said they just retain semen. This is about reclaiming male power. Your chat-up lines have really got to start. Have you not heard about semen retention? Tell me more. No, it's basically, it's like a male discipline movement. This is all very Andrew Tate vibes.

Very much show. It's sort of, look, there's books about it, seem and retention. It's about reclaiming your masculine power, but the discipline are not busting. Yeah, this is very crypto ice baths, Manosphere vibes. Did you watch the P. Diddy?

Oh, yeah, loved it. Everyone was like, they used to take my theme and remember the... Yes, the sex. worker on that. The sex worker who slept with Diddy and you're one. Yeah. And he was like, what are you doing with it? Because he's, like, he's done, like, 10 years. And eventually he was like, what are you doing with it? He's like, so we just like, we like drinking it and playing, playing with

and he's like, what's that fuck? Yeah. Yeah, what do you show? What's your problem? Sorry, I paid you for your scene. Yeah. I know. It's not up to you what I do with it. Yeah. But he said they must have been embarrassed because he never, he never, he never did it again. Never took it again. What was weird about that whole documentary is all these people who've known him for 15 years. And they're like, And that's when I thought, maybe P. Diddy's a bit weird. It's like, he's been punching women from, it's the moment you met him. I didn't know he killed Tupac and Biggie. I didn't know that either.

That's crazy. But that's what they implied. I don't think he killed Biggie, but it was very careless with Biggie. I think he could be charged with manslaughter. Yes. In that he orchestrated, he let Biggie be killed. I mean, there's a lot of theories. I just wanted, the documentary was just leaning into that theory.

Yes. But it's a 50 cent grinning. I've never seen someone so thrilled with themselves. Yeah, he loves it. Loves it. So, uh, VD was needed, needed. four weeks in hospital to be treated. Wow.

And the man-powered lost to wounds that were, quote, not sustained the line of duty was substantial. So there were competing strategies. The moral prophylaxis was, this is Britain, the US, the allies would state propaganda against the dirty women.

Against loose women, the show. Stop Vanessa Feltz from fucking our troops. We're never going to have a big enough defense budget if, what's another, we're loose women? Jane. Stacey Solomon? Stacey. She was a least woman anyway.

I don't know if she still is. Oh, Judy Love. Judy Love. Judy Love cannot be let near a barracks. She will decimate it. She's this country. It's like mustard gas. Judy Love would plow through R.A.F.

Norton in the day. Anyway, what would the French do? I imagine, they tried to regulate brothels, nationalized sex work, essentially. What does that mean? As in, give them, like, unionize them and all? It's like the NHS. for brothels. Yeah, yeah.

So there's a long waiting list, but it's free. Yeah. It's like, I don't know, sometimes you just want to go private. Mandatory registration of prostitutes. Now, what did Germany do? What did Germany do in occupied Belgium and France? Germany introduced the strictest system of sexual regulation ever seen in Europe. Wow.

In 1915, German authorities mandated registration of all women suspected of prostitution, i.e., I didn't see them with a boyfriend. They introduced twice weekly vaginal examinations. God, I love the Germans. My God. I'll do it myself. Have you had your twice week? Says like someone just created his own dream job.

Twice weekly. Wow. That's too many. That's one time too many in my opinion. I go in once a week. I don't have the time to go in for a second time. Twice week. What are you doing about male gynecologists?

What's your view on that? Don't trust them. Yeah, there must be something going on there. It's a bit odd. You could have studied anything. It's like, man who watched true crime documentaries. I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah.

What are you doing here? You're picking up tips. Unless they're openly gay, a male gynaecologist. Yeah, yeah, and I need it to be very clear. Yeah. But then, I don't know if you want to gain. He's like to gag. Oh, that's just scared of my life.

Uh, you know, a gay male. Must I. Yeah, but then you don't want that. I mean, he must hate Monday. Sunday, Sunday night he's getting the fucking Sunday scary. I have to go into work tomorrow. I have to see a fanny tomorrow. They must become so desensitized to it, wouldn't they?

Like, they just lose all interest and value to you. Yes. It's like, it's like, um, overe exposure to her. Start a saving private Ryan. What, every, every day? Yeah. Yeah.

Christ. Just be to come numb to it. Here we go again. You know, a lot of titillation is implying what could be. Yeah. Langerie, it's sexy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to, you don't want to be, you don't want like the main light on or like a torch and really getting in there.

It takes away from. Exactly. Yeah. Just an anatopical drawing of a vagina is not really going to turn me on. No. Well, speak for yourself. Is that what you're masturbating over? Every man has some kinks, yeah.

No man's an island. I like watching, I like, I like, I like masturbating to Dorian, Kindlesly, cross sections. There you go. That's hot. D.K. cross sections of vaginas. That's what I like. No, I like lacy panties is what you want. But the Germans established the sitem pole its eye, which is like the Iranian morality

police, but Germans in the World War I. Arguably, they've never really lost that, I think. No. But they have very woke views on, they have like big sex skyscrapers, like the brothel, the biggest brothel in the world's in Germany. Do you know about this? I know there's, because I talk about it in the new, in Pinoffield, there's men riding robots over in Berlin.

Oh really? These robots are like, have you seen these right? They're like high end. So German engineering sort of like, boche. Yeah, like proper. Like Bosch. Yeah. Yeah. This sort of thing. Yes. I mean, that is scary. Yeah. And they come with pre-heated vaginas

and all. It's mental. Preheated vaginas. Lovely. Like underfloor heating sort of stuff. He can detach their vaginas and send them off to be cleaned and fixed. Send them off. Well, they're dishwasher safe. Oh,

take it to the dry cleaners. They're dry cleaners. They're dishwasher safe. And then, but they did, sometimes these lads are hammering these poor bitches so hard that they actually have to send them back to the,

they have to like send them back. This one's broken. Yeah. Wow. Christ. I know. But then is it not better that they're doing it on, it's all ahead of us.

But then is it better that they're getting it out of the system or is it making them go further and further down? Who knows? The rabbit hole. I think it's, I think there's some men. and indeed some women, but more, I think there's some men who,

the only way of them having any sort of female affection in their lives is going to be via doll. So you saw your, you're dull positive. Brotholds were taken over by the German army, segregated by rank. So you had blue lights for officers, red lights for the privates. In Bruges and for VD centres

treated over a thousand women in 1917 alone. These are more like prisons. Right. The US obviously framed VD as a kind of, as a threat to American virtue. Right. So they, but General John Pershing

refuses to issue condoms believing they encouraged vice much as... This is like prohibition time though, isn't it? Yeah, it's similar time. It's just before it, but as much as the way you'd say, I'd refuse to issue sex dolls

because they'd encourage poor behaviour. So instead, they pursue abstinence, surveillance and punitive medical treatment. Men suspected of having sex were subjected to forced genital inspections post-coital chemical prophylaxis scrubbing the penis with a wire brush

oh Christ inserting antips into the gonorrhoes until the bladder was full mercury ointments and this was designed to be so painful that it would deter repeat offences and if you

didn't report your symptoms you'd get a court martial but what if you like that or if you're into that? Well that's the problem isn't it well you got a hand behind your head like this real freaks up in court again

If I was a soldier and my options were die in the like die on the battlefield or get VD and go to hospital for four weeks Yeah, pick your trench sort of stuff Yeah, I want to get VD

and go to the hospital for four weeks Wouldn't you? Yeah, I think so I mean, get you off the front line Yeah Is it like, could you get like a Victoria Cross It's go I don't know she was giving those out

for, that was a different cross I think. Dirty Victoria Cross Yeah, Victoria's Secret Cross there's in there somewhere No, we've been blathering on for a while but what I do want to get to is that there was a concentration camp brothel.

In Auschwitz, there was a brothel where, so, you know, it wasn't all bad. Okay. But who was going to the brothel? It was Eastern Europeans. It wasn't the guards. It was for people who were working there. Okay. Oh, it was, no, so it wasn't for the campmates.

Mates. Camp people. It was for the people working at the camp. The Nazi soldiers. It wasn't for the Nazi soldiers. It was for some of the local area? Some of the inmates.

Wow. Yeah. But they were there to reward... That feels very off-brand. They were there to reward non-Jewish prisoners for good behaviour. Right. Both the non-Jewish ones.

Yeah. And where are they getting the prostitutes? Eastern Europe. Right. Because that's where it is. They're not flying them in from Brazil. Big punders. The Nazis viewed prostitution

as an essential military provision, but they also categorize sex workers as antisocials. Because I think Himmler It's very social, though. It's too social, if anything. But I think Himmler tries to clean up. Oh, no, Himmler expands state-controlled brothels.

So he basically, the Nazis had an NHS for prostitution. They also, so in the end of the war, when Hitler's just ADHD flying off ideas, it's all going wrong. And he's like, do this. And he won't fix it. He'll just tell someone to do it. And they have to do it or they'll die. One of them was like to create these super like Uber-Mensherian brothels where like

blonde, blue eyes, perfect Nazis were just. impregnate as many women as possible and there's like a conveyor belt. It's like a farm. Yeah, just trying to pump out as many like... But they thought brothels would make a racially pure society if you controlled who was having sex. Yeah. Oh, right. Okay, interesting.

Anyway, oh yeah, brothels could prevent a contact with racially inferior women, in quotes. Following the invasion of Czechoslovakia, Himla made sex with women of the Eastern deployment illegal. Oh, yeah. Now, loads, after the war, any people in France who'd had sex with German soldiers... had their head shaved publicly. Really?

That scene in Game of Thrones. Shame, shame. Do they, does that happen? That's kind of what was happening. They shaved their heads and then they drove from through the town and like humiliated them and all. But these were probably just riding them

to fucking survive themselves. They're hardly dealing for the crack. Right to survive. But I imagine like the French did make it like chic. Like I imagine it's like a Chenade O'Connor of Amber Rose sort of thing. It was quite punk. Nothing compared. Any woman who had a relationship with the German was accused of horizontal

collaboration. Now, I guess it's, yeah, you're lying on a bed. But they're French. They could have been bent over a wine barrel. Who knows? Coming out of a dishwasher? The washing machine, actually, sorry.

Yeah, French don't get stuck in dishwashers. Sorry, just clear that fact of. The washing machine. Yeah. The sex robots go in the dishwasher. Their parts do, yeah. The real life women go in the washing machine. It's the key differentiation with straight men.

Yeah. I hate to spread fake news like that. Now, who's going in the tumble dry? That's what I want. stepdad stepdad stuck in the tumblech help

that's the you and your airfire I'm not enjoying myself the disappointing sequel step on the first one

went so well I don't know why no one like this one why did no one by stepdad gets raped in tumble

trial anyway women who worked in French collaborationist brothels had their heads shaved and they were covered in tar

and parades through the street. I hate these dogs. Men hate women, don't they? They just fucking hate them. Yeah, yeah. They do. Like, the hypocrisy around it is insane. What I will say is that this is...

Women are very annoying. That's a counter. There are two sides of us. I see your argument, but I would defend the position and say, you're absolute malters. You've known to blame, but you're something.

Go home and watch that tire off you. They do, yeah. In the washing machine, please. Their stories don't end. Anyway, no, but I'm in, it's interesting that this is a country that had been collaborating with the Nazis. Right. And then they're freed. And then they obviously, they feel, yeah, they were Instagram,

Vichy was Instagram collabing with Hitler. They're backdating their criteria. Yeah. It's more like that they're obviously trying to expunge their war record. They're trying to like make themselves feel. better about the fact that they were, you know, the most collaborations out of everyone. Yeah, yeah. And so the men obviously feel emasculated,

so they then take it out on the women by covering them in Tar. For the first time of history. At least they didn't fuck them. Yeah, I know. She fucked them. Yeah. So women had swastikas painted on their bodies, on their foreheads and red lipstick, and they became known as Le Femme Tondue, the Sean women. Did Cocoa Chanel get that?

Because she, she was fucking an Nazi. Did she get... Was she? Yeah, she was fucking a Nazi during occupation, but... Wow. So the sense of Coco Chanel number five. She likes a bad boy. When there's no bad a boy than a Nazi. Some of them were just following orders. Anyway, we've been blathering on for quite a while now.

So that's sex work up to World War II. Wine and women were to blame for venereal disease amongst troops. Now, Joanne, you're on tour. Where can you get tickets? Speaking of wine and women. On a clear sidebar. No, no, it's like, go. The paedophile.

The paedophile herself. Alleged, alleged paedophile. I'll be shaving women's heads, tarring men. Tarring, yeah, you should tar men who comes to your gigs. Where can people get tickets? Rapists! Just fucking shave their heads. Jamar McNally.com.

So when's this going out? This will be in New Year. First week of January. But if I've convinced anyone to buy a ticket, it'll be... Oh, yeah, I have two Apollos left. Amazing. I have a matinee at 3pm on the 15th. an 8 p.m. show because I feel like the women

at my stage, we're at our HRT early night stage. Lads, get the fucking testosterone count in her audience up. Phenomenal comic. You sell more tickets. You must be one of the highest selling ticket. I mean, you sell more tickets. How many Apollos are you done now? For peanut far, nine.

Nine. That's crazy. That's fucking crazy. That must be a record. It is. Thank you. I didn't know there were that many women in the country. But you know what I feel? If I was a single man, I'd be fucking strung out on all of them. Do you know what I mean? Roofing left. and send you heard it first these guys don't need

a lot of one have turned to drinks that's what i'll say that's joan it's a dangerous it's a dangerous she really wants to sell these tickets there's a lot of answers i'm taking the piss but do not encourage roofing listen telling our audience to bring rufe is a dangerous flame i did a give you not listen to this bit they've already i did i did i did it i did a good girl the night the second i came on they fucking switched off yeah no they have a do have a problem with irony this lot i did a gig the other Tonight I came on stage, someone did a full Hitler salute with the front row. You need to be careful with what you tell these people for a laugh.

Are you sure it wasn't a high five that went wrong? It was full Roman. He was full Roman and he recently commented on the patron saying, I was with my new workmates. I've been in the job one week and I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm going to last in for a patient here. Yeah, full Nazi salute at the work social. I was offered Roel as a contributor on GB News. Well, yeah.

Yeah. And the email was like, we think she'd be a great fit. And I was like, what have I sat at dawn? What have I accidentally tweeted that GB do you think I'd be a great fist? Do you know what I mean? I don't come across this particularly right wing. Do I save GB News for when everything collapses, right?

That's on the way down. No one's doing nine Apollos and GB News. You're doing one or the other. Yeah, true, true, true. Anyway, go and see Joanne on tour. Joanne's going to stick around. We're going to talk about hysteria on our Patreon. Grace.

The female orgasm, does it exist? We'll find out. Let's find out. Thanks so much, Joanne. We'll see you next time. Goodbye. Goodbye.