Fin vs History - Hanging Out The Blatter it | The History of The World Cup (Part 4/4)

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

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It's part four Of the World Cup story I'm with Horatio Gould As we get into the 90s The Golato years Yes The upshot boys have left Yep

But the corruption Is still here Yeah We have We did we end on We ended on Italian 90 Yes And now we get to

USA 94 Which England did not qualify for Do we not again No we don't qualify 94 Even though 90 was one of our best World Cups probably might be our best World Cup ever if you think about it apart for 66.

Now in 1992 the English Premier League had launched so suddenly Murdoch's doing Murdoch and you've got a young Richard Keyes Yes A richard Keyes who's sort of honing his sexism Yes He's young, he's agile

He's physically he's not like an expert Like he becomes He has not yet reached the Rushmore Yes. He's an exciting winger of sex. Every week he's hanging out of the back of it. He's not yet reached that Maradonna-esque. But that's a cultured finish of a 34-year-old strike.

That's Harry Kane in the Bundes League. He's lost the pace, but still at the moment he's front-footed. That's a knuckleball. I mean, there's a glorious strike. Also, I want to highlight the sheer amount of slouch this guy is operating on. He's lost a yard, but he's still got the touch. Anyone has ever slouched harder. Let's take a look.

Then a sexist man. Then Richard Keyes with his feet up, side eye, Jamie Rednap. Every week, he's hanging out of the back of it. Everyone's so uncomfortable. What's it about? They're talking about a woman,

maybe Louise Rednapp. Did you meet her? Can you turn out? Can you smash it? Does he get what he wants? Find you, that's a stupid question. If you were anywhere near it. You definitely smash it.

There he goes. You go around there any night and found red nap hanging out of the back of it. Just an alpha, you know, an alpha in the jungle. Hold on, sorry, go back onto that. What is the outfit? This is a man who feels so comfortable

in his position in punditry. I feel now, apart from maybe Neville, Carragher, it's such a competitive game being a pundit. It's jeans and shoes. This is a guy who, this is like fucking Jacob Rees-Mogg in the House of Commons. You know what I mean?

It's more like, I run this shit, I'm never going to lose my job. The world's never going to change. He's got light washed jeans. Yeah. Cardigan. And also the idea of saying

stupid question to your own question. Did you smash it? Stupid question. Hanging out of the back of it. Every night of the way, you go like in. Red enough to hang out of it. A phenomenon.

Sorry, can we get the, what's Richard Keyes? Where did he grow up? What's his, what's his story? Richard Keyes, friend of the pods. A life. A life well lived. He married his first wife, Julia, in 1982. They had two children together.

Julia files for divorce in 2016, due to Richard Keyes, alleged infidelity. He's hanging out at the back of her. In November 2000, Key was heard to make a racially motivated comment about footballer David Johnson while broadcasting live on a sky test channel. I've just read the slur. Oh my God I'll discuss Where is it

You can't be saying that Richard Richard You've cooked me there Now that's not as bad as the other friend of the pod Ron Atkinson Who I mean I watched that happen live

What did Ron Atkinson say Ron Atkinson He well he went to Mark Furman Shall we say On Marcel DESE After a Champions League He basically went to an ad break Chelsea were playing. I can't remember Monaco maybe.

Went to an ad break and Braun Atkinson thought his mic was off but the mic carried on live over the ads for like five seconds and he called Desaille a lazy N word and then It's friendly banter? I think, no, I think it's punditry.

Ron Atkinson's salty, earthy punditry. I mean, Keyes, do you want to say this one? Keyes describes someone. This is Keyes, this is a quotation. his words as a choco jocco

I've never heard that before I don't know what it means sounds awful what does it mean I don't know you can work out what it means well yeah I know what the first bit means

what does the second bit mean I guess a jock is a sporting player right okay um anyway poor one out for Richard Keyes I mean he's a man who as soon as the mics are off

it's just fucking hell for leather slurs some men should not wear microphones It's crazy. Richard Keyes. It's literally like he'll be doing and that's all you've got time for, Sky Sports.

Anyway, so I was saying about this guy and he's hanging out of the back of him. Super Sunday and it's live. Fucking hanging out of the back of that. Smash that, fucking smash that. In June 2023,

Richard Keyes married Lucy Rose, a lawyer 32 years, his junior. Oh, ooh! It has been alleged that Lucy was his daughter's best friend. Oh, oh, oh.

Yeah, ultimate toxic dad who is like, if we're talking about, but toxic dads, should we get up the new Errol Musk clip? Oh, yes. So I got sent this. Yeah, you sent it to me. Should I send it to Charlie?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is pretty exceptional. We might need to... We will get back to the 90s World Cup, but seeing as part four, and we're in the era of Richard Keyes being a toxic dad... So this is still sort of relevant. It is relevant.

We need to talk about Errol Musk, a friend of the pod. This is pretty exceptional, to be honest. It's from the same interview. So hang on, well, just to make sure this is relevant, It's like a great Wagyu beef cut. It is melt in the mouth. But it's from the same cow. These cuts are very expensive, rich.

So the 1994 USA World Cup is just as Richard Keyes is starting to broadcast. It is before Errol Musk has started cooking. Yes. Now, just saying, pause, before he's going into this, it's more like the idea of the toxic dad or the idea of the ignorant dad, the scumbag dad, the scumbag white dag I guess

it's quite specific this is kind of like the boss final boss level I guess this is kind of every stereotype at its most extreme all in one man

yes Keyes can only wish of being this talk show yeah I mean keys is blown out the water he's got nothing on Errol Musk okay this is like when the English hooligans

met the Russian hooligans yeah and it's just a different level it is okay players now just for context the caption of the clip is Errol Musk on having a child

with a stepdaughter Okay, take it from here. And she stayed here for three weeks, and we got on very, very well. She was now a grown woman of just on 30. How old were you at that time? So I was 70. It was just 40 years difference, eh? 40 years different.

Yeah, roughly. Yes. A couple of months later, she called me and said, she needs to see me. So she came, and she said then, she showed me a mammogram. Oh, yeah, yeah. Stam. Scan, right. And were you not know this for your ex-wife to find out that you had had a baby with her daughter?

No, she was remarried. Yeah, I know that. but it's still unconventional, you know? No, no, she was living with someone else. In that case, I should have been walking around outside her house saying, what are you doing with this other man? So, but do you not think that's strange at all? No. One woman's another woman.

Ms. Rambane, two-thirds of the world right now, marriage while age is 12. Yeah, that's wrong, though. Well, you may think so. If you look in the third year, a man won't take a woman who's second hand. Right, so there's a lot going on there. Yeah, and what's phenomenal.

Firstly, is that the toxicity where you're challenged, and you just fuck off. That's wrong, though. No, it's not you may think so. It's common knowledge. I think it's once again, I think the most appealing thing about Errol Musk is his,

the intensity of his opinions. The amount of he believes in his own truth, I do find quite inspiring. Yes. When questioned, don't you think that's at least weird? He goes, no. One woman's another woman. So that's one of his,

what does that mean? Let's break down his philosophy. So one thing he believes is one woman's another woman, which basically means all women a fair game. One woman's another woman. Yeah. Age is just a number.

Daughter's just a word. And then he brings up, I don't know why that's weird that I'm shagging my ex-wife's daughter because she's now shagging a new guy. So it'd be like me going around to her house and saying, what the fuck are you doing this guy? Yeah.

No, it's not. No. Because that's not your son. That's not your son. And in the third world, two-thirds of the world, the manageable age is 12. No, it's not, though.

You may think so. I inhabit a reality That's true But also But also Why is he bringing up the age of consent Being 12 He's trying to put his decision

In context But the woman He's the problem is She's 30 I mean actually Surprise any old For what I imagine From Errol

And imagine some of She's 30 years old I don't know why The 12 year old stuff's been brought up It implies that He's trying to justify something else What's hilarious Is that

Even though he's a man Who's had several children Yeah He's like And she shows me Some What you're bad man she shows me some kind of mammogram or something

that's that's the scan women have when they have breast cancer but also that's not an ultrasound yeah but it's also because he's so horny he's thinking about her breasts oh you may think so but it's so funny that the first thing comes to ground is mammogram because it's just in his tit's his mammaries

that's your daughter right it's another woman one woman who's one woman what does that mean one woman is another woman what does it mean he does it mean he does see kind of at peace of himself though in a way. He doesn't feel wrapped

with... If Woody Allen had the South African accent, you know... What do you mean? It's the difference between a South African Protestant and a New York Jew, isn't it? Oh, jeez. I know, well, like, technically, my dad is my wife. Cheez. Right, one woman's another woman, it's common knowledge. Just coming, yeah,

yeah, everybody else is getting me... Woody Allen's up, leaning forward going, oh, cheese. Yeah, and he's like, on front foot. Yeah, are you talking about? Yeah, one woman's another woman. You know, and the rest of the world, age as 12. No, it's not.

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Sorry, long tangent. The Premier League has kicked off. Keys is about, grey's about, and in the 1994 World Cup, it's taken to America which is obviously controversial because they don't like football but this is the beginning of the 90s with football

as a billion dollar product But the 94 thing it sort of failed and what they're trying to do now The current World Cup this summer is probably trying to achieve what 94 is trying to achieve because 94 failed right? Yes

because it didn't take off 94 was a disaster so the domestic audience views the sport with hostility which is like an imperial It still has that imperial hang up. Also, Americans have this idea of sport where, like, there can be no sport that exists that American didn't invent.

Yes. They have an incredibly blinker. But they also think it's sort of third world sports. Yes. They view football as like, like, poverty, basically. The notion that, like, cricket's the biggest sport in the world, they like find baffling. Yeah.

But, yeah, they just view it as third world sports. An American newspaper article said Americans were right not to care about the World Cup, describing it as the biggest sport in Cameroon, Uruguay, Madagascar. So, but FIFA thing gets this market that's right to exploitation. Now the opening ceremony is an absolute disaster. Sorry, but one thing that is

interesting about FIFA football, it's the most global sport, it feels, the World Cup feels the biggest global event, but the three biggest countries in the world, none of them play football. It's kind of weird that China, India and America, all of them don't have any football culture even though that's like

the three most populated countries in the world. China have a football culture. Do they? Yeah. What? Little fellas, well, the fucking the Chinese Super League where they're buying

Yeah, which is collapsed. Yeah, oh has it? Yeah, they spend loads of money on it. It didn't work and it's collapsed. No watches, more people watch snooker than football.

Well, look, you've got forks, chopsticks, football, ping pong. All right, you'd have to say two and all to the west. You may think so. It's common knowledge. Common knowledge.

Yeah, obviously. Yeah, obviously. So the opening ceremony is, Chicago is a match between Bolivia and Germany. What is it, Charlie? What do you think it does to the pod if we get Errol on the pod? Sky Rockets. Skyrockets.

I think this pod might need... I don't think we're lost at the moment, but if we were ever lost, we might need to find our North Star the man with the most searing clarity of all, Errol Musk. But I think we'll have to only deploy him once we feel like we're in the woods and a bit foggy.

Yeah. Errol, please, clear this up for us. Yeah. That's what we get. What's going on? I think we probably do the Holocaust with Errol Musk, just to clear things up once and for all. Well, obviously it's common.

It's 200,000. They're all pretending to be dead. Obviously. They're all right. One Jew's another Jew. What do you mean? 6 million died. You may think so.

Oh my God. If Holocaust denial as a team ever signed Errol Musk, we're in the toilet. We're done. We're absolutely done. So Germany are competing as a unified nation for the first time since 1938. Because it's 1994. Now, the opening ceremony is hilarious. Oprah falls over on stage and Twitter ankle.

for. Diana Ross, it is his famous, she has to take a, he has to kick a massive football from three yards and she still fucks it. hilariously bad.

Yeah, the gold falls away. Anyway, Germany win an awful game. She just runs. Germany wins an awful opening game 1-0. But I didn't fucking know this. The whole thing is overshadowed. I had no idea.

On the same day, the LAPD are in televised pursuit of OJ Simpson. But it's, It shows how small a deal the World Cup is. Yeah. That when we're doing all of our OJ research, it didn't come up once.

No. I had no. Like, so this is competing for the most exciting, like live GTA that's ever happened. This is the problem we try to do football in America. I know. And as we record,

we must just say that friend of the pod, Mark Furman, has passed away. At the time of record. He's not yet been resurrected. We must have a minute of us. So we've just said, we've done this point, it's about 15 minutes in.

We've said, Errol Musk, Richard Keyes and Marfan and all friends on the farm Can we make a Mount Rushmore An AI Mount Rushmore Charlie Can you make an AI round Rushmore

and Grock Markford Richard Keys And Emerald Musk Yeah This is a thin version of history Mountain Rushmore It's been

Yeah And Gianni Infantino Today I am gay So Yeah but that isn't that I think that's part of the reason, though, culturally as to why America can never, maybe we'll never have the love for football that European nations do, is that its news cycle is just much more entertaining than, like, any sport can be.

Yeah. I mean, no sport could compete with that. With OJ, yeah. The only equivalent we have is Rao Mo. And that was not televised. The British OJay. And we could not, there was no, like, visually that didn't work on TV as well. Yeah, I guess it would be him running through a bog or like running down.

Yeah. Raoul. Chase by gas wine and Ray Mears picking up grass and spelling it. It's not the same. So probably the best thing

about 94 which I think is quite a turgid tournament because Brazil It's too hot. It's too hot but also Brazil are not that good. Oh, what's that?

That's looking very nice. That's nice. I like how grok's like. Yeah. Lovely. So just punch a on that please that's glorious

we're just looking now at a photo of friends of the pod Mount Rushmore Furman Keyes Musk and Infantino Minutes pilots

please imagine someone made a Rushmore of those four what the fuck is going on right a new unveiling we made some

we've adapted the original Mount Rushmore got rid of George Washington but also it's so funny it's so funny that it's on um obviously it's on native american land isn't it it's isn't because that's what they did with like sitting blowing people as they made big but to make the most toxic white white dad mount rushmore you know you've got the the obviously the n-word tapes then you got we just smash it then you've got obviously just common knowledge and you go today i feel disabled yeah heroes the lot of them they might be the sound like

Kings, to be honest. It's Mount Rushmore a greatest soundbites of all time. Yeah, yeah. I think, I don't think we should make a thumbnail for this episode. I think we should just put that out and see what happens. Oh, glorious.

Great men, a lot of them. Anyway, so it's a pretty turgid tournament 94 on the pitch. I think Brazil aren't that good. I mean, they have Romario, but they also have Dunga and it's quite, I don't remember thinking that there's that much good football. I mean, Nigeria quite good at this point. They've got like, they've got Tarebo,

West who's got funny hair. It's more organized Brazil. Less fun. Yeah. Less fun. Yeah. But the main sort of political thing that happens is that obviously in Colombia, which is, oh, fucking hell, man, what's going on here? There's drug cartels. Fuck sake. The national team are funded by people like Pablo Escobar. Yes. And so they're under immense pressure to do well. And Colombia aren't a bad team. In the 90s, they get quite good.

We're just maybe Valdarama's around. They've always been in it around it. Yeah. Anyway, so they beat Argentina 5-0. So expectations are quite high, but then Andres Escobar, a defender, scores an own goal in a defeat to the US. And as soon as he gets home, he has shot six times. Yes. So I think this is probably... Sorry, as he is murdered after every shot, his killers are rumoured to have shouted,

Goal! Goal, go, go, go, go, go! I don't think that's, surely that's not true. But it might be like, goal, goal, goal, go. Sure. Goal, go. Because I think that's too silly for how angry they were. Goal, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. No, but it sounds silly to us, right?

Go, go, go, go, go. But obviously, South American commentary sounds stupid to us, right? But to them, that's like moving. Go, go, go, go, go. Go, go. Go, Mottee doesn't do junkie. Go, go, go, go, go. But to a South American.

Like a fucking Liam Mason film starring Johnny Mawson. Motty doesn't do you have 30 minutes to make your decision and there's like did but my point is that for South Americans that doesn't sound stupid

so you know go go go go go gull go go gl is moving as exciting it's not you know just telling the vellas sorry Charlie can you make a

a thriller poster with John Motson you have 30 minutes to make a decision holding Viagra and then a quote saying Motti doesn't do Chunky sorry

so I actually think that you could Goal, goal, goal, goal. Could be aggressive. We read it as cartoonishly because of the Simpsons. But he should be shouting own goal.

On goal, on goal, on goal, on goal, on goal. If he was doing that, he'd be shooting himself. Yes, but he's angry at the own goal. That's why he's getting shot. But he's scoring goals with the gun. I see, I see. Anyway. Showing him what he should have been doing.

But I guess the way that we talk about the British tabloid culture around World Cups being super toxic, I guess this is the end point. This is the end point. Yeah. Someone scores an own goal. They get shot six times.

Yeah, Rob Green, Shatanky lucky stars. He wasn't playing for Columbia. Yeah. Because when the ball went over his foot, you know. Yeah, now he's allowed to whinge on talk sport all the time. Yeah. If reported that the killer shouted goal after every shot, once for each time a football commentator had said it during, yeah.

That's crazy. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Then they drove away in a toy to pickup truck. Fuck. Footnoted. Accurate. Wow. Amazing. Amazing. So there's also Maradona's last World Cup and we should, I think we

touched on it slightly but we should mention so he's before... How old is he this point? 30s. Yeah, probably only 30s. 40, 1960 I think. Yes, we're 34. Thank you Charlie. So at the top of your dome.

So he, before the tournament, he had fired an air rifle at journalists camped outside his house causing minor injuries to people. Despite this, he goes on to play against Greece in their opening match. Now, he scored a goal,

and then we'll just get the photo up. Just scroll down on the script, Phoebe. And there were suspicions that maybe he was on drugs. Yeah. It's possible. He's then tested positive for ephedrine. I don't think he's on weed. No, he's not on downers.

And... Right, right. You have... We have to explain, because we touched us on this on patrons you have to explain what this means. So if you're, if you turn to video,

there are two stories about John Motson that the Upshot boys told us on the Patreon. Sorry, yeah. We talked about us on the podcast before though. John Watson, iconic match of the day, commentator turned out to be John Grotson,

Johnny Grotty. He was very horny, had a lot of prostitutes telling up, but allegedly, turning up to BBC with unpaid checks. But also he met an intern for what she thought was like a career dinner, but was actually a date,

held up a Viagra said, do you know what this is? When she said, yes, he swallows it and goes, you have 30 minutes to make your decision. And then also his match ritual is at halftime. He has a four-finger Kit-Kat. And once an intern hearing that he likes Kit-Kat, got a Kit-Kat chunky. and he lost it.

He said, and he screamed apparently, Mottie doesn't do Chunkies. So anyway, we're now looking at a poster that Charlie's made an AI of Motti doesn't do Chunkies, him holding a blue pill saying you're 30 minutes to make your decision. It's a sort of edgy, kind of gritty.

You can see the BT tower in the distance. I mean, it looks brilliant. It's a gritty UK thriller, really. It's maybe a Guy Ritchie type film. Yeah. He doesn't do Chunkies. I'd say it's more like Jason Statham's crank. Yes.

But it's about Motty and Kit Kat Chunkies. Send that to the upshot, boys. Anyway, so Maradonna gets led away by a nurse for a random drug test, and this becomes a kind of iconic image to signal the end of... It looks like he's being led away by his carer, really. I mean, it's very sweet because it looks like he's skipping. Now, in here, this is in 2004. He's 130 kilograms.

Now, Charlie, could you just get up the photo of me with Emma Watson? Because I think... Remember, he's 5'5, and I'm 6'2. But how tall were you then? I'm probably, I'm probably, I'm probably, I'm probably five, five, five. Well, when you're, that age, you're, 11, 12. Wow. So you think you, that's the most Maradonna, that's the most similar to have been.

I've seen photos of me where I'm, I don't like that. But remember, I'm coming onto the field as an impact sub in cream predators as a cream bun predator. Yeah. Okay. So I'm like, I'm like Maradonna. Yes. I'm like Maradonna, but I'm doing it at that weight. Right.

I see. And he wasn't. No, he was thin. when he was great, you know? There you go, side by side. Yours is more depressing still, isn't it? Would you agree? Yes, because I'm in a fun shirt.

So it is more depressing. There's a darkness. Yes. Yeah, I guess the fun shirt adds a level of like forced joy. And being sad in a fun shirt, I think never reads good. I look like a whale in SeaWorld that's been made to do tricks. That's why there's a sadness. Because you think this noble beast is being forced.

Yeah, and it's got like a bow on its head. Yeah, and it's got like a party hat. You know, this is wrong. This should be let free. to just eat fish. That's you with the, all you're the mint pies. That's you go into your room with the mince pies in your hand. Yeah.

Anyway, so Maradonna, there's also a great moment in the 20, is it 18 World Cup where Messi scores a brilliant goal against Nigeria. Maradol's in the crowd. There's almost a call back to 94 where TV cameras pick him up going, like in the crowd doing a kind of Wakanda like that. Was that 2018? I'm pretty sure it's 2018. It's a lovely little callback to the 94.

Yeah, and he starts fucking flipping the bird. So he's just got, he's just on it. He's gacked off his nut in the stance watching Messi. Anyway, so now that's 94. Brazil win 94. Roberto Baggio misses a penalty. 1998, my first World Cup. Sure.

I collected Tesco's commemorative World Cup coins for this. Now, this is where, suddenly there is a new era of international football because 32 teams are now in the tournament and this is also where the expansion has to be covered by sponsors which paves the way to... In my head this is the first modern World Cup

yeah the way that I view it. 1998 it feels like that's got a lineage to the World Cup here most distinctly. Yeah I think I probably agree because the expansion means that they need there's money to fill there's a bigger product they're putting on so there's more space for corruption

so this is this is the start of the road that takes us to Sep and Chuck Blazer. Now Chuck Blazer is a US delegate on FIFA. Love Chuck Blazer. He admits to taking a bribe from the Morocco bid for the World Cup. Let's have a look at this. I mean, this is putting your weight to shame, actually. Yes, he is.

This is you, maybe if you... This is me dressing up with Santa Claus. Or maybe this is you when you're older when you've given up. Yeah. Because, I mean, you do maybe have this in your locker. It's amazing to look like... I have that in my locker. You've got that in your locker.

If you had some fucking balls I'd sack Tyreek and I'd just go full truck blazer Yeah the amazing thing is Yeah blazers is your personal trainer How do I acquire that body? He's looking at the photo of me and he was him watching, you had it man

You had it! You were on a great... This is a great era for FIFA because everyone is so hilariously corrupt It's an international corruptness That maybe has not been seen before Where it's like national borders Don't mean anything

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Now obviously you've always had like a stance. An institution that's asking you to trust it is the least trust. wordy thing. Yeah. So you've had so Stanley Rouse in 66 saying that all the Africans and Asians have Canadian people one spot. But that's the gentleman's corruption. That's gentleman's corruption. Yeah. But that's still one country. That's one country. Yeah. That's like

that's like benefiting itself. Yeah. Right. This level of corruption is it's about the institution, not the countries necessarily. Yes. It's about the people at the top of the people at the top of the person. And it's also personally lining your pockets to way that's not really been seen. So who is Chuck Blazer? So he's one of the many

delegate to Conquer Calf? Is that the different area? Every country and every like continent has certain delegates and they decide where the World Cup goes. So they obviously are taking huge bribes from countries because their votes are so important. Yes. There's Jack Warner.

There's lots of other different people. But my favorite is Chuck Blazer who just, I guess being that corrupt American and that fat, it's just a level of gluttony on all parts of your life. Yes. It's just to be visually that just like. Glottinous. it's consuming so much.

He lets a look at some of the stuff. So Blaze was a colorful character who lived a life of excess. He rented a $6,000 a month apartment in Trump Tower just for his cats. After being caught by the IRS for a decade of unpaid taxes, Blazes became a triple agent. So like he sells everyone down the river. He's not an agent. He's not a double agent. He's a triple agent.

He's like the guy in the OJ story who finally get him in Vegas. He's a Vegas guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A triple agent is like, such a level of corruption. It's like... You have to go back to the first guy saying that, yeah, I'm fucked it again.

4D chess does not stand for anything but personal gain. During the 2012 London Olympics he went to FIFA meetings with a recording device hidden his keycheon. He also brought down FIFA

just to benefit himself. We'll get to that, but he comes into the story in 98. That's ultimately how he links us to Blatter. Let's go back to 98 quickly. So geopolitically, there's an interesting moment

where Iran are drawn against America in the group stage. Obviously, they don't have diplomatic relations being only 20 years after Dr. Grumpikins has taken power. So they don't know what to do about the handshakes at this beginning because Ayatollah Khomeini instructs his team not to shake their hands. Grumpikins be grumpikinning. So instead, the US players approach the Iranians and they hand them white roses, which is even gayer than shaking hands.

So I don't know what... I don't know what you've done there. Because also the American players are smiling. Yeah. They're like, it seems like they don't view this as a threat. It's not very, it's not a great snub, is it? Iran win two one. Which, you know, you're looking at where we are geopolitically.

Feels quite like a similar. Hey, look, I always thought people were overstated around. I thought they're paper tiger, but back now, fair play. They love it. And then obviously the big story in the final is the Ronaldo, original Ronaldo, fat Ronaldo. So this is, and he's, this is early. teenage sensation where I have to say

I mean I remember watching I used to watch Golazzo the James Richardson Channel 4 show Syria highlights in the 90s him at like Inter Milan I mean it's unbelievable Inter Milan Europa League final highlights some of the craziest shit it I think

it generally viewed Not Europa League no yeah that was one of the most amazing because it's interwood in the Europa League I think But not yeah you're a for Cup yeah You don't want to do it That's the Europa League you want to call it You want to do Ronaldo into Milan, you owe for cut.

But I think for natural talent, there's an argument that he's probably apart from Messi and Maradona, maybe the best ever, because he didn't put the numbers of Christiana Ronaldo, but it's because he had such a short burst, he got fat, he got injured, but just burst onto the scene as a teenager, probably the most talented. But also, we're getting to, we're getting to the last sort of high point of individualism in the game. Well, yeah, this is the last era. Well, this is the beginning of what I feel currently is viewed as the Golden Age.

Because people don't talk about the 80s, the 50s, 60s of the golden age. We talk about our youth, and it must be a nostalgia thing. But I think it peaks actually in 2006 for me when that probably has the most stars. Yeah. When you reach 1006, if you think about the stars, you've got Zadhan, Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi. Ronaldinho, Ronaldino, fucking Skulls, Lampard, Gerard, Rooney. It's like every team, Becum, Etto, Deco. Yeah, like every team is the most stat

with individual talents. Yeah. Yeah, it's possible. But it's before that kind of PEP 2008 system. Yeah. Start to start. Do you think that there'll be any nostalgia for now in like 10 years?

Maybe. I don't know. If it gets worse. It depends because it's just the road of football is becoming more and more corporately aligned. It's like winning, like losing is so high stakes in a business way now, it's becoming more like American sport

where people are fired because they're putting the company under financial risk rather than just losing. I mean, that's why the super league watching Ronaldo Highlands. But I mean,

that's why the Super League, they try to make the Super League because it's interesting to listen to America to talk about British sport where it's like, from a financial perspective, it's crazy to have relegation.

You can't run a business like that. No. Like, Tocono, if they go down, they just bought a massive stadium. the battle people who lose their jobs everyone loses it's so high risk that's why American you don't get relegated you just keep it in a

yeah but it's better for the spectator but it is far worse for it is a business so France end up being Brazil 3-0 because Ronaldo on the day of the final wakes up having had some kind of seizure was always the food poisoning I think that it was a stress

induced fit I remember watching it and getting the news from Deslin and Ronaldo wasn't starting and he came on and he came on and it wasn't really himself. And France. So what size are you now? Sorry?

In 1998. What size? Oh, in 1998. Yeah, no, I'm... Terrifying. No, I'm getting towards terrifying. I'm concerning. I'm concerning size.

Is this your prime? Are you... It's the beginning of your prime. Is prime for fatus? Yes. We're on the way. We're on the way down. Right.

Yeah. No, I'd say prime is kind of 11, 12. Right. It's messy 2009. he's just about to head into... Yeah, yeah. Alex Ferguson is looking at me going, it's terrifying what these guys are going to do.

We've got no answer to the hell fat this guy is. But have you not yet become the monolith? Sure. Yeah. That I will be when I'm Gavin Plumbing behind them of Watson in a cave. Anyway, for France, this is a huge political success because it's...

Gavin Plum is a fucking adjective. It's incredible. Gavin Plumming as a verb. Stalking behind a film star as a huge fat love to Gavin Plum Charlie, could you get Gavin Plum on the Mount Rushmore, please?

Add him as our fifth member. Anyway, so this is a huge deal in France, 98, because it's, this is also around the time that La Enne, the film was made. So it's like the whole Paris race

tension. The Bonnier, the suburbs. Which is probably now the greatest creative talent and football in the world probably. Does that ring around Paris? But this is the first time. So all those stars, Mbapé and D'Ambéle,

they all grew up in the shadow of watching. This team, it's like rainbow team, where you've got Vieira, Desai, Sudan, Henri, you've got Dugaree, Zadans, Algerian heritage. So the Rainbow Nation. Now, speaking of Rainbow Nations, we can skip the kind of early noughties.

2002, obviously, South Korea. That's quite a good world car. 2010 is the next big one because this is the first and only time today at the World Cup's being in Africa, but there's also the real start of the downfall for FIFA's architects. Because this is the fruition of Set Blatter, who we haven't introduced yet. He becomes president in 98, right? And he sort of in blatant corruption, he offers delegates $100,000 for votes. The night before the election, delegates are offered briefcases containing $50,000. grand in cash and he wins 111 of the 190.

And I think that's suspicious. Yes. Yeah. Something seems a bit fishy. I feel like there's a related. It's not just a random gift. No. So let's get to 2010.

So now, FIFA had given San Africa all this money. This is the first time I remember hearing the phrase white elephant was that South Africa would just spend it all on stadiums that they would never use again. Yes. It was in remote areas of the country that, you know, they didn't need a stadium. They needed like an infrastructure. Just this sort of news just bumming you out as well, just seeing completely fucked. So the strategy of the Africa project, which Set Blatter's Africa project, is a strategy to solidify his power within FIFA by expanding the game's reach and therefore making all the other developing regions of the world kind of beholden to him.

Yes. I guess the only way that you could sell both Seb Blatter and Gianni is having any sort of standing for anything. I guess the only positive spin is that, well, how they are justified, it's all about explaining the gut, the game. Games global reach. Yes. That's why they want to one in the Middle East. They want to one in Africa. They want to...

I guess that would be their argument. Yes. Because that's what this whole period is about, is about really pushing it to as many corners of the world as possible. Yeah, but you can do that in a way that you don't give people 50 grand. They don't give you $1,000 cash.

You can do that. You can. If you actually meant that, maybe you wouldn't need the briefcases full of $50 grand. The South African bid committee pay $10 million to the head of Concaf who is Chuck Blazer? or not?

No, or is that Jack Warner? I mean, he's, Jack Warner. Maybe that's Jack Warner, which is a donation to support the African diaspora in the Caribbean. Yes, he's Jack Warner's Caribbean.

So it's reparations, basically, from FIFA. Now, politically, South Africa is meant to showcase the Rainbow Nation, you know, the best, the most important tunes

in the run-up to 2010 of all World Cups. Do you think? Yeah, the most important like songs made specifically for it. had um waka waka waka waka it's time for africa you must this is common common knowledge

charlie this is common knowledge waka waka africa yeah i've heard that it's time for africa then there was um that james cordon dizzy rascal song fight fight let it all out show da what we're all about come on yeah that was but that wasn't even our official song we had another one fucking shout

shout waving flag they basically had so many I didn't mind wave your flag R Kelly sign of a victory yeah that's the official anthem

by R Kelly and also it's coming home started coming back into the the culture R Kelly did the official FIFA sanction song I mean

what time now the main issue with it from a corruption standpoint is that it's kind of a fantasy project because none of the money gets spent on the needs of the nation but also the fucking Vubu Zela's ruin

TV coverage Yeah Well they like sort of hornets Yeah basically just these air trumpets I did I did To be honest It was a crap World Cup on the pitch Um

Shocking Spain had some I mean it also had the fucking There he is Plum in the middle around much more Give it up for Plum They look like Plum's bodyguards They do Plum looks like Jesus

Surrounded by his apostles. I want to say it, but Plum sort of mogging them, to be honest. In what way? Plummoogs? He's like Daval Ed. Yeah. He's got the most charisma of all of them.

Furman, Errol Musk. Richard Keyes probably not the best stone mason. He doesn't look at close enough to Richard Keyes for my liking. Glorious. Friends of the pod on Mount Mushmore. Anyway. It's crazy.

I think it was. a shit tournament and then the final I thought added attention to the watching the game. It was like watching a Christopher Nolan film where the sound comes up. I quite like that drone and maybe feel like there was a feeling of dread and anxiety

that kind of exciting. That's what the brown sound. I need to go to the toilet the whole time. So Russia bid for the World Cup in 2018. England also bid. Now this is where the corruption starts to unravel. Jack Warner who's the president of Concorda he controlled a unified voting block that essentially makes

a kingmaker within the organisation. So England think they've got his support, but then ultimately they all go for Russia and Qatar. Now Blatter is... And it's built into England's myth as well. Because as we stand in the gentleman's game and we do a handshake and we think that's it. And then a corrupt European bureaucracy

have worked out something behind our backs. But also this whole... But you promised. You shut my hand. Like the whole thing of England and Britain staying out of FIFA at the start. Yeah. that we think they were better than it.

Yeah. There's an arrogance there that still here will be. And we're getting punished for our arrogance and being proven right in our arrogance, but also being punished at the same time. At the same time. Both are right. Yes, you're right.

It's kind of win-win, actually. So Blatter made this unprecedented decision to vote on the 2018 and 22 World Cups at the same time, which means if you're bidding for 2018, you can trade your vote with someone of a 22, so you can basically do a swap vote. Right.

So also Putin wants to reassert Russia as a world power. Has he's invaded the Crimea at this point. Yeah. But again, I mean, that doesn't matter to FIFA, given that they've given it to Mussolini in the past. Now, an MI6 spy, Christopher Steele, uncovers all the rumours, including valuable paintings from the Hermitage Museum are offered to FIFA executive committee members in exchange for votes. Allegations Russia have provided computers to FIFA officials that were later destroyed, which means that the investigation was impossible. And in 2010, in Zurich, Russia and Grathehr are announced as the winners of the votes. Remember this? I was at uni, student protests, kettling.

This is Clegg. This is Clegg years. The optimism of Clegg is vanishing. Clegg's in power. Cleggmania is wearing off. We're waking up after Cleggmania. Right. It's a crumbown.

The hangover after Clegmania. And Qatar, I remember I was all thinking, what the fuck do you mean? What do you mean Qatar? Yeah. What do you mean Qatar? It's a lonely Monday morning. Yeah.

After a weekend bender on Clegmania. What do you mean we're doing Qatar on the pod? Qatar win every single round of votes. Right, so let's get to the 2015. That seems pretty unanimous to me. The FBI raids. So they then, because of Chuck Blazer, who... Also, Chuck Blazer is just for a fat, corrupt American to be called Chuck Blazer.

Which also, what's so funny is that he looks so fucked, and yet he's wearing a suit. That's what's funny. He's wearing a blazer and he's called fucking Chuck. Yeah. Ways over 400 pounds. A boisterouser's New Yorker was often seen riding a mobility scooter through Manhattan. Awesome. I do kind of love...

I mean, Blazers should probably get on the man, Rushmore. Chalka placer might even get on. On Rushmore, yeah. I mean, he does look like someone who sort of just bombs around regional England and on the mobility scooter fighting sea gulls for shit. So he basically, because he's a double turn coat or triple turn coat, or triple turn coat, he had once been Blatter's right-hand man. He's so corrupt he's a good guy.

Yes. It's like, it's like he's fucked over so many people that he's accidentally ended up doing the right thing. Yes. Yeah. But through no, through no of his own volition. What's the most corrupt thing I can do? Did it just ended up. Just do the right thing?

Oh, what? He's turned left seven times to turn right once. So they storm a hotel in Zurich. And so it's Swiss plainclothes police officers who are acting on behalf of the FBI. They arrest basically all the head of FIFA, the officials. This is all on Chuck Blazers' kind of testimony Two days before the presidential election Because what's about to happen is that Blatter

Is going up against Michelle Platteny Who's the head of UEFA for the new head of president And they find some money in a bank account Or a transaction of 2 million euros From Blatter to Platteny And Platteny is all, also decided to stand down basically making it a coronation for bladder. Is that right?

Yeah. So basically it all stinks. That's been come to known to the disloyal payment. FIFA claim it's from back payment for consultancy work. Great. I love vague stuff. Oh, there he is. Blazers on the wall.

Who have we lost? We've lost Johnny and Petino. We've lost Charlie and Petino. Charlie, Charlie, the whole mountain should be Chuck Blazer. So can you make it so it's all Chuck Blazers' body? They're all attached to Chuck. Yeah. And Chuck is the kind of the actual...

He's the jabber the heart. He's the... With six heads. The serbress. The serbrus of the pot. I think it's... No, it's his mobility scooter. Yes.

He's on a mobility scooter. He's got six heads. And that's Mount Rushmore. No, it's him lying down. And that's the mountain. Okay. The mobility scooter's crashed. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, it was paid nine years late. Essentially, both Platini and Blatter get banned from football. by the FIFA Ethics Committee and Blatter doesn't recover as if that's such a thing exists. Where have they been this whole hundred years?

Where have the FIFA Ethics Committee? The Nazi anti-genocide committee. Yeah, exactly. Where have they been? Where were they in 1938, 1978, 1978? Anyway, so Blatter is originally banned for eight years and then a Swiss court acquits them both. Do you remember the film Blatter made about himself

that you paid for? Oh, yeah. The biography. who's that actor Dubatter film I don't know how this actor got to United Passions is about I cannot believe this film

Is that Sam Neal from Jurassic Park It's Tim Roth You'll know Tim Roth Yeah I know Tim Roth Good actor Will be The Federation International So it's just a complete

FIFFA About the noble Who paid for it It was a finance by FIFA It's a corporate propaganda film It's absolutely incredible So it's basically just corporate PR Former President said by

By Timm-R's position as a primary hero Leading a misunderstood organisation Wow in the middle of all of this by the way yeah so when does it come out when does that release that film the box office numbers the budget was 27 million dollars yeah let's see and I guess that that's you get tax breaks

when you make film a famous commercial no it took 918 dollars in its opening weekend in the US so how much is a ticket in the US to see a movie it must be like 20 bucks or something yeah $15 dollars 20 yeah $20 so I mean maybe 300 people saw it somewhere 400 people Oh If that

If that No less than that It's got nought percent On Rotten Tomatoes Wow Not enough people talk about United Passions We need to bring that back into

We should be doing We should watch it We should watch it Film Club A United Passion 916 dollars But then So this is what stinks as well

A Swiss court Which again That's like saying FIFA Ethics Committee What does that What do you mean a Swiss court The country is a fucking tax It's the country is an illegal

operations unit. Swiss court acquits blatter and platoon of criminal fraud in 2022 and they cleared again on appeal into March 25. So recently fuck. Yeah. So then you have the Russian World Cup which obviously just

before you've got common knowledge, Crimea, the Sources poisonings, pussy riot get involved. I mean I suppose I think there's never been a World Cup that has not had some sort of kind of

dread in the build up over the geopolitical context. So obviously now this is Trump's World Cup. Trump is it a war with Iran.

You know, it's similar, it's similar to Eurovision, isn't it? You know, Israel and Eurovision, it's clouding what should be a celebration,

the gay World Cup. But also the fact that like it does change the, the fact we've brought Mussolini up and I'm calling Mussolini's World Cup, it does keep them in history in a world cup. way.

Yes. Like they're attached to something that's kind, there's a purity and something good about football. And they're, the Qatar World Cup is one of the best World Cups. From a football perspective. Absolutely.

So no matter what, you're like, your emotions attached to the, the football. Okay. I mean, that's pretty good. That's pretty good,

isn't it? Gavin. Gavin's got, Gavin's got swag. I mean, Chuck's looking good. Chuck's a wizard. Yeah. So we're just,

just again. if you're listening, we've finally got the Mount Rushmore we want, which is a huge Chuck Blazer. And almost in his kind of his blazer pocket, you've got Richard Keyes, Errol Musk, Gavin Plum, Mark Furman, and Jen Infantino. Now, we should end with... So Maradonna goes to the 2018 Cup.

That's where he dies. He has a heart attack somewhere just after that. A journalist in a Twitter post wrote that while Maradonna a blah... Oh, fuck. So in the 2018 World Cup, up, Maradonna was seen making racist gestures to South Korean fans. He made, he did the eyes. I forgive him.

Yeah. Do you know, like he's on Coke, it's Maradonna. It's Michael Jackson's albums. They're too good. I don't care. I'm not denying he did it. Yeah. I'm saying the music's too good.

Yeah. And also hasn't as much coke as him. I'll be doing it. Yeah, I'll be doing it. I'll be doing it without half as much. I can't play football. I'll be doing it. I don't take Coke and I'll do it.

His excuse. was he was trying to tell the Asian boy who was wearing an Argentina jersey how nice it seemed that even the Asians cheer for his country. And how did you decide to do that? Yeah. You know, that's just my culture's way of saying thanks. He passes away in 2020 at the age of just 60 and obviously everyone in Napoli and Argentina go fucking man. Yeah. Well, it's similar to the way they're messy. There's a religious feeling around. Day of fire. He's one of the saints. Yeah. Yes. Three days of national morning. That's like, well, when the Queen is...

But isn't there a religion that actually has Maradonna as an offshoot? In Naples, there is a sort of cult-like thing. Yeah, they have like shrines to them. We should end with the Qatar World Cup. Qatar, is it? Cater. Annoying when people make you say that. I don't want to say that.

It's the people who say chorizo. Yeah. Fuck off. Bagn of chukula. Fuck off. It's a pain of chukula. You don't want a quagon. Yeah.

It's a crasson. Why do I have to become a different country? Yeah. I'm English. Yeah. I want to identify as gay for a word. Qatar. Qatar.

Yeah, so it's being hosted in Qatar. Yeah. And also the Qatar, it means you have to like... Blah-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la. You know. Fucking Qatar has got the World Cup again. It just doesn't... It's hard to express yourself.

It changed the rhythm of your sentence. Yeah, it does. Anyway. Those fucking Qataris. Yeah, the World Cup in Qatar. Now, obviously, you know, modern slavery, migrant workers, people are dying building stadiums.

Modern slavery is like being on social media, isn't it? These days. Being on Instagram. I'm going to fucking log into porn hub. I'm a slave. I'm a slave. I don't think that's the point. That's the point I'm making.

I've got to take a photo. I'm going to go to social media addiction being trapped in there, don't you? Yeah, I'm going to take a phone myself. I'm fucking log into porn hub. I'm a slave. I'm a slave to Sadiq. It's end modern slavery. Unite the kingdom, end modern slavery.

Get rid of this work nonsense. Anyway, six and a half thousand migrant workers' deaths, they think. Now, those people will be Indian mainly, I imagine. Indians are going to Qatar? Yeah. Yeah. Qatar. Sorry. The Qatari government claimed only 37 deaths, which, okay.

What if they're saying now? Well, I, you know, I will take the government's words. The Guardian's six and a half thousand. I think that's way overblown. I question those numbers. Now, the main cultural friction is obviously, firstly, it's the desert. so they have to move the World Cup to Christmas. Yeah.

Which I suppose is the end point of that started in Mexico in 1970 where you're making players playing midday heat for television audiences. They move the whole fucking tournament to December. So when people said, oh, this is an aberration, it's been going this way the entire time. LGBTQ community. They're like, well, we can't go there. And then I think Gianni Fantino goes,

just don't be gay for a month. Yes, he does. Which is good advice, you know. Just take a month off. Just dry January it for a month. Can you just... Surely. You just have a month off the cock.

Do you know what I mean? It's a football tournament. You know? Just pretend you like fannies for a month and go back to doing what you're doing. All right. Anyway. So they threaten yellow cards. I'm going to because I'm gay in a good way.

Right today I am gay. But in Guadar... In June, I am straight. I'm doing dry June. So FIFA said they're going to show yellow cards against captains planning to wear the one love one love arm bands and also you can't more wear the one love raster hats

either yeah um so there's a big thing about harry cane does he wear the armband and get he gets booked doesn't he? I don't think I think doesn't he get booked for I mean I'd rate him a lot if he did actually stood maybe maybe maybe we stood there's always that does that stuff about jordan henderson oh what was more that

it just showed this era through and through Jordan Henderson was an advocate for LGBT rights at the height of whiteness. Not the hero they want. Yeah, for the hero they got. You know, we need to talk about, you know. Yeah.

And then he signed with the Saudi club. Right, yes. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. As soon as the money came in. If the moral bastion of Jordan Henderson can fall, then what good is there in the world? He's my lodestar.

He should have changed the name to Jordan Bendison. That would have meant a lot. and lining up for England, their captain, Jordan Benderson, and they can't even say his name. That's a true ally. If you'd change your name to Jordan Benderson. I think they'd be like, I don't know if this helps. I don't like the word Bender.

Shut up. I'm doing it for you. I'm an ally. I'm an ally, whether you like it or not. All right. And then obviously, the whole thing about boo, obviously, common knowledge, the whole thing about booze,

Qatar had agreed with FIFA and it's $75 million sponsor Budweiser that they would allow beer to be sold in the country because is it a dry country Qatar? It is. 48 hours before the opening match

they just fuck it off. Why do they do that? Well because obviously it's that tension of like we're a Muslim country versus FIFA's commercial sponsors and they just decide to maybe there's I don't know, did they have to pay FIFA the money back I think it matters really to them.

They just don't give a fuck. Yeah, it's like they're not going to move the World Cup somewhere else. No. Two days before. Exactly. That's probably what they're doing it. Yeah. So, again, it's...

Their net wealth is $765 billion. Yeah, you do what you want when you got that much money. Wait, so there's no alcohol at the World Cup. No. That would suck. Yeah. And you can't be gay for a month. What's the point?

What's the point? What's the point? You can't fucking chuck down dackeries and go down on Darras. Nosh off all the players. What even is football at that? And so, ultimately, yet again there's accusations

of sports washing although you could say as you said that you've made you brought the game to the Middle East but again it's a tiny country

but one of the benefits of guitar is geographically it being in one city everyone was like this is brilliant yes that they do it across

because the American ones across the continent and it's like if you're being a pundit on there it doesn't really work but guitar they had all these stadiums in one city

but yet again the final Argentina France did it finish 4.3 three all and then pens one of the greatest finals one of the greatest games ever seen live the greatest game all time probably

um oh my god greatest did you see how Gary Linneka's sign off on that so you know Gary he had this period where he'd try and end on like a pun oh yeah

and it was the most historic game and I was just in shock watching it it was probably the greatest sporting event I've ever seen that or the Istanbul three years yeah but right at this end of historic thing Gary after

having all this, they've had this punitry they're like in shock about Messi and all of this is incredible tournament. His sign up for the whole World Cup is it's beginning to look it's beginning to look Chris Messi. Thank you.

I mean, it was so stupid after all that, the signer. And thank you folks. I believe it's beginning to look Chris Messy. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmassy. would have been even hot. Something like that.

What was this pun at the end? It's so funny. Well, he's past his peak at that point. Yeah. Yeah. So I suppose to wrap it up, you know,

we're now, the World Cup is now underway. Yeah. In America, I've actually, in doing the series, I've, it's been kind of comforting.

Yeah. Almost to know that the World Cup has always been in the gutter. I mean, what I've learned is set Blatter

is a high point in the anti-corruption. and FIFA, do you know, and I want to watch that film now to see a brave man who stood up to a corrupt organization and trying to change it. The Martin Luther King of football

set Blatter and I look forward to seeing what he does next. Yeah. And Chuck Blazer as well. Go on. I think he died. He died?

He's 400 pounds. He died age 70 or something. Good innings. So on that fat. First Blazer, then, Furman. God, it's a sad day. Sad day for us here

of Finn versus history. Well, next Gavin Plum. If Gavin Plum goes, we will take a week off broadcasting. Out of respect. I hope you're sitting down where you are. And all I'll say for me, it's good night from him and from me

and from all of us here from InVVos History. It's beginning to look. A little Christmas. Goodbye. Goodbye.