Fin vs History - Holodomybeer | Stalin: Show Trials & Killing Trotsky (Part 3)
Episode Date: October 26, 2026Grab your nachos and pick axe, it’s time to take down Trotsky. Stalin: Show Trials & Killing Trotsky (Part 3) The show for people who like history but don't care what actually happen...ed. For weekly bonus episodes, ad-free listening and early access to series, become a Truther and sign up to the Patreon patreon.com/fintaylor This episode of Fin vs History is brought to you by Surfshark. Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Enter coupon code FVH for an extra 4 months at surfshark.com/fvh Chapters; 00:00 - The Great Terror 05:08 - Red Flags everywhere 09:28 - Eliminating the Pret Class 15:26 - Peas in a purge 20:52 - Scum, Prostitute, deserves it 28:11 - Dry execution 32:20 - Who’s that for? 34:47 - Tying up the loose ends 40:50 - Where are your nachos? 47:44 - Burnham-Gvir pact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Back to Finn versus History, joining me to Rachel Gould.
Stalin, fold your prostates back out.
Yeah.
This is about as good as it gets.
It doesn't get better than this.
Yeah.
In the 20th century history,
Stalin,
mid-30s onwards.
You were saying potentially our biggest episode yet,
which I think is definitely up there, for sure.
This is the Great Terror.
It's terrifying.
Are you feeling terrifying?
This is Oogly-Bugly.
Yeah.
This is a horror film.
Yeah.
You know, in this episode,
we're going to deal with Stalin's Great Terror,
with the Goulags,
with the assassination of Trotsky,
and then the two genders will meet.
Yeah.
Yeah?
When two become one.
The rutting stags.
Never have two stags rutted harder than...
There's a Nazi Soviet pact.
My God.
It doesn't get bigger than this.
Yeah.
This is a juicy steak.
Yeah.
Okay.
Enjoy it because as sure as water turns to snow,
there will be a woman on at some point.
Right.
Which means it's unlocked, yeah.
It might not happen.
I don't know.
I don't know.
All right.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
And can you blame me.
No, I can't blame you.
Can you blame you?
right.
There's a lot of good stuff.
So we're in the...
I love that it's called
the Great Terror
and we've just had
one of the worst famines
in history
and then we've moved on
to the next chapter
which is the Great Terror.
Yeah.
Sort of undermines
what's just happened.
Yeah.
It should be called
you think that was bad.
Yeah.
Basically,
it's always great
about Russian history.
It's just each chapter
is like,
hold my beer.
Hold my beer.
Hold on my beer.
Holomodore.
Hold on my beer.
Hologda on my beer.
We had the Holog of more
and now we had the whole lot of my beer.
You thought that was bad.
By the mid-30s, Stalin, you know, he, this is like, Burnham in four years time.
Yeah.
The change has been foundational.
Okay.
Pret is dissolved.
Yeah.
No more prets.
Everything's Greggs.
Yeah.
You go to the Waldorf, it's Greggs.
Yeah.
Claridge is Greggs.
Number 10 north is, you know, like specter, it's tentacles are everywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You go stay at the Ritz first.
Just a big Gregs.
You forgot what food that isn't Greg's.
tastes like.
Forced collectivization.
The Holodomor has devastated the Ukrainian countryside
as well as the Holodomu, okay?
11 million cows.
11 million cows are gone, yeah?
And they're not even being made into beef.
Have you seen how much beef is in a cow?
You get those videos?
No.
We have very different algorithms.
I get Welsh butchers showing me how much.
I basically am tempted,
much as in the way that I subscribe to olive oil,
I'm often tempted.
Beef subscription?
No.
if I have the
I am already married, thank you
if I have
If I have
If I had the freezer space
You buy a whole cow at once
Right
The amount of beef
You get a cow
You're already on the road to that
You buy wholesale right
Yeah
You buy big cuts of meat
Yeah yeah
My freezer space
Is taking up with a lot of kids
food like turkey dinosaurs
And potato waffles
Right
So what you want
Is an actual cold room
And a hanging carcass
Yeah
That's the dream.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you start building the fucking eagle's nest.
When I start building Burtas garden in the home counties,
which is the end point of this podcast.
Yeah, of course.
Where I can look out across the Kent Downs from the Eagles Nest.
Yeah.
I will have a cold room and people will come around and I'll open the door and I'll show them in it
and they'll be slightly menacing.
I'll be like, you know, you get the wrong side of me.
I'll hang you up in my cold room and I'll eat you like a cow.
But if you're on my right side, what flank of beef do you like?
What would you like?
Do you like a salon today or a riby?
I've got everything.
I've got an entire cow in here.
The amount of beef...
How long does the cow keep in a cold room?
I think it's just...
If it's cold, it's fine.
Yeah, I mean, how long is stuff keeping the freezer?
It's the freezer.
Forever.
I think it's forever, isn't it?
Really?
Yeah, you're not going to get ill.
It's just going to taste like dust.
It's just going to get a bit chewy, isn't it?
Okay, but there's quality difference for beef.
I'm sure some chef nonts listening will be like...
A peterfarl.
Yeah, I'm sure a pedophile would complain.
Yeah.
Because the bacteria in there fucked.
Are they dead? Do they leave?
They're fucked up.
Yeah, they're frozen.
So they're kind of waiting.
I think they're waiting.
Bacteria are kind of immortal.
You can get a crow chamber of bacteria.
It did say about four weeks.
Four weeks?
No, indefinitely.
Did it say that?
Food stored continuously, safe to eat indefinitely,
although quality and flavour declined after a few months.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, that's good.
So you've got about four to 12 months for quality of raw meat.
So now you're inviting people who don't even like over,
just to try and finish this fucking cow.
No, I'm not.
I'm just muck-banging it myself.
Next grill again for dinner while I look out over the Kent Downs from the nest.
Yeah.
With my massive fireplace.
Yeah.
There was a gift from Mussolini.
Anyway, let's get back to Stalin part three.
He has transformed Soviet society.
That's fair to say.
And he's been reading about Ivan the Terrible.
Which, yeah.
Yeah, I guess this is one of the few red flags that start to appear for Stalin.
Well, he's a Soviet.
I mean, there's a lot of red flags.
because it's communism.
Right.
They're fucking everywhere.
And that's what makes it confusing.
Yes.
To know what's a red flag.
That's why he managed to get away with so much.
What is a red flag when there are red flags on every lamp post.
Yeah.
So he reads about Ivan the Terrible, but
maybe he starts to draw the wrong lessons from him.
Yes, from the terrible.
As he puts it, death is the solution to all problems.
Yeah, so he thought it was Ivan the brilliant, which is a different reading.
No man, no problem.
It's his cover version of No Woman, no cry.
No man, no problem.
Yeah, he starts to get these lessons from Ivan the Terrible.
You know, I mean, if you're into Russian history
and then you're acting on it, it's bad.
Right, right.
So, now there's a bloke called Kirov,
who is his mate, I think,
who's a loyal supporter,
and he's becoming one of the most popular figures
in the Communist Party.
Yeah, you can't be liked.
No.
You can't be liked around the office.
You've got such a needle, you've got a thread.
Yeah.
Because you can't be too crap.
No.
And you can't be disliked.
You just kind of got to be,
it is sort of like the traitors where the people who go under the radar
the ones who win.
It is.
This is celebrity traitors.
You've got to come out of the woodwork, episode seven, episode eight is when you do the
explosive stuff.
Yeah.
But you've got to be just blending in.
And the thing is, the problem that people that go on the traitors, they are, you know,
this is the most exciting thing that will ever happen to them.
Yeah.
And so they're trying to use it to build a platform that they can put out a shit web series
afterwards, right?
Reviewing cars or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the problem is they get too giddy and excited about the platform they have,
when really they need to bide their time.
By their time.
And also, you know, if you've got a deformity,
you're out, the vote for you first.
I remember Traitors, one of the first Trader's seasons.
Aubrey was the first guy who was this old guy
who said that he was amazing at reading people
and he kept telling everyone, I'm brilliant.
And he had a really big trillby on.
Yeah, he was the oldest guy there.
And everyone was like, we have nothing to go off.
What about that guy?
Keep saying he's amazing at reading people.
Yeah, we've done such a big, big read.
And immediately was out.
Didn't even get a chance.
Yeah, idiot.
That's not how you play the power game.
In Stalin's Russia, he's dead.
He's dead immediately.
He'll be saying,
I'm a master of reading people.
We'll kill you then.
Fucking off.
He says he's a master of reading people.
He's clearly not.
In October 1934,
there is a disgruntled communist
called Leonid Nikolaev.
He walks into the building
where Kirov works,
but luckily security guards
have stopped him before he reaches Kirov
and they find a gun.
And Nikolive is questioned,
but then released.
And they give his pistol back to him.
Okay.
Weird.
Yeah.
Six weeks later, he comes back to the office and shoots Kirov in the back of the neck.
Okay.
So the police were like, now don't do that again.
Yeah, yeah.
And then they load it.
They take the safety off.
Don't do that again.
Yeah.
He works up there.
Don't do that again.
When he comes back, what have you done?
Yeah.
What did we tell you?
We told him.
Fucking hell.
Some people.
Yeah.
So the murder becomes, again, a great turning point, they say.
There's a lot of turning points.
There's a lot of turning points.
He sort of turned back on himself.
He should be nice.
now if it's a turning point he should be really nice yeah it's actually consistent the
problem is he doesn't turn it's just well he's he's turning he's turning 360 every time
then just carrying on going forward um Nikolive is arrested interrogated placed on trial and is then
convicted and executed by firing squad the same day yeah now that is an efficient judge same day
judicial system you know think about all the inquiries in liberal democracy britain it
well yeah they take years and years even the the man city charges that that's going to how long is that
take, how long does that take?
No, I'm suspicious of you, I'm going to kill all of you.
Yeah.
In the same day.
Confession, executed, done.
Former political rivals start being accused of organizing Kirov's assassination and because
Stalin is turning it into a conspiracy, right?
And so he's becoming more and more paranoid, yeah, because he's, he's spoken to a
hook.
He's spoken to no man, no problem.
No man, no problem.
Oh man, not problem.
Right.
Really pranging me out.
It's a strong stuff.
Yeah?
Super skunk.
And then he's looking at all the red flags,
being like, fucking out.
This all clicks.
It's all connected.
Yeah.
So.
But the whole, the thing is he also has a bit of insecurity
about his role in the revolution because he wasn't that involved.
So the big problem is obviously Trotsky was much more involved.
But also any of the old Bolsheviks who are the ones.
Sorry.
Old Bolsheviks have the most respect of power because they've been there from the start.
So they're as biggest threats.
And he's just killing anyone who's been there for a while.
Well, he's starting to.
Yeah.
So, because Trotsky's in Mexico,
shacked up with the even more insufferable for Hidalo,
and he's publishing, you know, I mean,
he's defaming Stalin's what he's doing.
Right, okay.
Yeah, he's basically publishing,
he's like tweeting him.
You know, there are people who just won't stop tweeting one person.
It's sort of Graham Linnahing in it from Mexico.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So Stalin's feeling a bit under pressure,
and you're right, he has his intellectual insecurity
about the revolution because he's not one of the big brains of it.
Trotsky's the only one who has a righteous way to retell event
because he was there.
Yeah, exactly.
And also has the only kind of authority.
Yeah, authority as well.
So what he does is he takes,
now,
Zinov and Kamenev,
who were two of the huge Leninist loyalists
from the revolution.
And they both helped
on defeat Trotsky in the 20s.
Yeah.
But they then turn against him
because of all the grain stuff
and the whole lot of my beer.
Yeah.
So they were part of the Troika,
which was the three-person leadership
straight after Lenin.
So Kamenev and other prisoners are taken to the Kremlin confronted by Stalin.
Stalin says their guilt has been established.
They don't need, they have no like comeback, right?
He says, you either confess publicly and your families are spared or you don't,
and they all die.
They agreed, right?
Foreign journalists are invited to watch and these are where we get the show trials.
Show trials, for some reason, it's too close to show tunes and stuff.
It feels musical theatre.
Show trial.
Yeah, for some reason, when I think show trial, I think it's got like, it's like a lawyer,
you know, he's guilty,
your honour. Guilty, guilty, yeah.
So they all confess that all these heroes of the revolution.
So this is only what,
15 years on or something,
they confess to plotting assassinations,
so sabotaging the Soviet economy,
conspiring foreign powers, attempting to restore capitalism, etc.
And the public are kind of convinced by it.
Stalin himself is up at night writing slogans
and like actual confessions.
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In a way,
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You're actually a bit racist.
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Yeah.
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Right. So this is, but this is probably like, this is, to what my point earlier,
this is the foundational left eating itself moment, isn't it? This is kind of the archetype.
This is the main time that the left implodes. But there's a lot of communism in the 20th
century, and it's because this is the first time it's been tried, this sets the tone for how it
happens almost every other place. Yes.
Paul Pot, communist China
it has very similar
but this is the first time to do it really
But then people would say
Yeah but then people
People would say
This is inevitable
When these ideas come into contact with the reality
Right
That's what people would argue
Who's people?
You?
Yeah that's what I would say
Yeah
Me and Jermaloxon
That's what we'd say
We're writing a Times op-ed
Yeah
So just on your iPad
In your pants
You're glasses like that
Yeah
Andy Berdom is a communist
He's gonna eliminate
the preck class.
We got to be going to kill Caleb
and everything's going to be Gregs.
You're going to stay at five sides of it.
It's just Gregs.
That's what I'm going to be.
Don't read it through once.
Send it off.
Send it off.
Publish it.
I'll take the money.
Yeah.
And then I'll go and fucking kill a cow or something.
Now,
so in just a few years,
Stalin basically kills everyone
from the October Revolution.
Yeah.
So he is the remaining guy from the revolution.
Yeah.
Apart from Trotsky,
who's still in Mexico.
Yeah.
Right.
So this purge.
Now, is it the first,
is it the first kind of political purge almost?
Certainly the great purges.
Well, I mean, he's inspired by the Ivan the terrible who did it to the boyars.
If you remember the kind of elite class of the aristocracy, he purged them.
Yeah.
I guess in a modern sense, potentially.
But I guess, you know, purging.
But Hitler did like, night.
But that was after this night.
The long lives.
It was about the same time, actually.
34.
So they're both, you know, purging.
They're peas in a pod.
Perjers in a pod.
Purge is in a pod.
Perj is in a pod.
Right?
Hitler and Sardin.
Parallel lives.
Yeah.
Peas and a purge.
Now, but in terms of like purging nowadays
These days, these days
It's fucking wankers having something shoved at their ass
And you know
Hold up, what?
What do you mean?
Oh, you mean like a full...
Fucking flavour flavour over here.
Right.
Hold on, hold up.
Run that shit back.
Oh, you mean like a full body purge.
It's throwing up.
It's getting something to shove up your ass and flushing your guts out.
You know, this is a purge.
Phoebe says a purge is throwing up
because of an eating disorder at these things.
days. Yeah. And there wasn't eating disorders. But that's her
extremism once again. It takes of the script.
State eating disorders. State eating disorders.
Women made famines. Thank you for you.
Okay. What is it, Charlie? Are you tempted by a juice purge?
Say that again? Are you tempted by a juice purge?
What the one Hitler did?
Lovely stuff. Come on. Lovely bit of business. What else do you want?
Yeah. Smoothies. Did you get what I said? Juice purge, yeah.
Yeah, right.
Perj of the juice.
You just kept, just said smoothies like nothing in that happened.
Anyway, so this purge bleeds into the Great Terror.
Right.
Okay.
This is the Holodomar bear.
Yeah.
This is what I mean, though.
These names sort of, they blend into each other.
It's sort of the whole thing's the great.
Do you know, the awful famine blends into the evil purge that goes to the Great Terror.
It doesn't really.
It doesn't really mean anything.
So just, again, let's just, if you're Russian, okay, and you're born, let's say, 1910.
Oh, I mean, insane life.
Revolution.
Holodoma.
Holodomor.
Yeah.
Holodomavir.
If you're Ukrainian.
Great. Oh my God.
Then you get, um, no, if you're, 90s, World War I, Revolution, all of that.
The whole of communism, um, uh, fucking Chernobyl.
And then the fall of the communist, you'll die as communism's falling and all that shit
happened there.
Kind of insane.
Amazing.
And if you make it to 9-11 as well.
Yeah.
If you move to New York for 9-11, perfect life.
Perfect life.
Four marks.
And you die in 9-11.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you have to die in.
the, um, in the impact zone.
What's this?
The oldest,
reporter person in Romanian,
Romanian history.
Ukrainian.
Ukrainian.
So she lived through it all.
Wow.
She's just died.
In the Chernobyl mini series,
there was that old babushka who wouldn't,
she's milking a cow.
Oh, sorry.
In that,
you know that fucking old babushka.
You know what I mean.
Like that out.
I'm like, mate, we're podcasting.
You can put my bushka.
We're podcasting.
Can you fucking.
Keep your ablutions to yourself.
We must say Ethel Gatorum has not lived as a,
she's had a privileged life compared to the Ukrainians.
Well, when was she born?
She's just turned 117.
She's done World War II, I guess.
The Blitz and stuff.
909.
909.
Shipton Bellinger.
Born Shepton Bellinger.
She's born in, she wasn't called Chippedon Bellinger.
Oh, right, I see.
But it's a good name, Shepton Belanger.
That's a sturdy woman.
Yeah.
1909, so she's sort, you know, the Titanic happened.
World War I.
Iron brew.
Iron brew was invented.
yeah she saw it all anyway
so there's current Ukrainian people oldest Ukrainian
that Phoebe just got up who was born in
1917 yeah
and now she's still alive so she's
and they're living through now if they live it make it
to now they must be like guys
I've seen this before I know
can you change the fucking record
yeah yeah wow that is awesome
yeah let's just try let's try being happy
for once can we try that one or does that
to be miserable each time and they die
I wonder what's next
it's like the blue zone thing yeah in Ukraine
From the Great Terror to the Super Awful
to the really bad.
Yeah, to the Oh my God, the Terror again.
This bleeds into the Great Terror, as you said.
And so this is a campaign of mass arrests, executions, deportations,
enemies of the state.
This is, you know, Communism 101.
Now, what's interesting about this period
is he basically, the Great Terror,
he runs it like the grain re-inquisition,
where it's all like targets to be hit.
So he does the same.
with murdering people
as he did for grain.
There's a sentence
where he says
maybe it's not him
someone says
find me the man
and I will find the crime
yeah
incredible because he's got
his attack dog barrier
who I think will get to
on the patron
we'll be discussing
Berrier in full detail
but yeah he's the head
of the NKVD
which was the Checker
which was the Akrana
Beria is the mingler
of this story really
he's sort of like
you know
he's gone on an alt direction
but sort of you know
focused
that was his quote
sorry that was his quote
Show me the man and I'll find you the crime.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's also one, yeah, numbers-wise,
maybe the biggest rapist of all time.
Wow.
Which is a big saying something.
Wow.
You know,
and we've got to give Russell around his flowers
for trying to reach those numbers.
There's a chance he did hit those.
I mean, there's a chance he hit those numbers.
Not chaggot the year, no chance.
No, no.
Berrier's rapist at the year.
They're very different.
Yeah.
So Stalin issues massive numbers.
He says there are these huge quotas.
Now, he, this, I enjoy,
I enjoyed this.
a lot. He would sit there.
The kind of the montage of this. Yeah, it's great amazing.
It's just him and his desk just basically ticking.
People just giving him names. He's just ticking.
And you see he wrote little things.
So he would write these names in front of them.
And then he would write little like notes in the margins including.
He writes deserves it.
So he would, oh yeah, scum, prostitute deserves it.
I love deserves it.
Yeah.
Because it's a bit gay as well.
Deserves it.
Snake.
See, that's what happens.
Yeah.
Yeah.
deserves it.
Come in the king,
you best not miss.
Is there any more satisfying
man sitting at desk
than having a list of names
you're killing
and just going scum, prostitute?
Also, you're ticking their,
they're dead.
You've killed them already.
You've ticked their life off.
I like that's still adding insult to injury.
You've already killed,
you're already killing them in front of their family.
That's how I go through job applications.
Scum.
Prostitute.
Deserves it.
Deserved the job.
That's how we got Phoebe, actually.
Yeah, exactly.
Scum prostitute.
Scum across that.
Crossed out, deserved it.
No, give it the job.
Give her the job.
When we looked at the rest of the applications.
I saw the name went prostitute.
I went, sorry, deserve the job, actually.
Very good TV.
Yeah, but also ticking someone to death.
Yeah.
That's communist, right?
Yeah, it is.
Yep.
Deserves that.
He also enjoyed adding comments to photos of male news, which we discussed in the Russian Revolution series.
I don't remember this.
Yeah, there was, we'll maybe deal with the next part,
but he goes through a period later on in his life of critiquing male news.
nudes saying you need to work and not wank. Do you remember that? Yeah. But that's later,
Stalin. I think we'll get to that later. I get to that next part. Anyway, so. That's when he's
got no more like real enemies to fight. He's gone a bit mad at that point. He's gone a bit mad because
he doesn't know where to put his energy. So now he's putting it into male nudes. Exactly. I mean,
what do you do after World War II? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, so, uh, now you wanted to
talk about this particular order. Well, I was looking at the purge because I couldn't work out.
When I think of the Great Terror, it's quite hard to conceptualize because I know he got rid of his
political opponents.
But that's like, what,
max 200, 300 people?
I think it's 180.
Do you know what I mean?
So 750,000 people died.
So I was wondering where the vast majority
those executions were.
Apparently,
almost half of them came from one order,
which was the NKVD order number
0-047, literally Star Wars shit.
Yeah.
And I think it was,
I mean, once again, quite similar to the Ukraine family
where it was just former Kulax and not,
it was just, you know, anyone.
It's just Phil, Phil,
kill, get 350,000 people and kill them.
Yeah.
Just make up a reason why, basically.
But there was all on one, one order.
So half the people, so half the total of people who died in the Great Terror are from one order assigned on the 30th of July 1937.
Yeah.
400,000 executions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, back of the head.
It's like a work from home sort of stuff.
Back of the head.
Where would they do it?
Just where would be a normal place they'd do it.
There'd be like secret trials where they just go,
how do you plead innocent?
Well, we think you're guilty.
Bang.
It's bang, basically.
They're in basements.
Mandated method with death by shooting.
Yeah, it's just shot in the back of the head.
A lot of bullet.
Okay, there's like a shooting range near Moscow.
Okay, secrecy and burial.
Execution were carried out in strict secrecy.
So it wouldn't be out in the street.
prisons, regional headquarters or secluded
suburban fire ages such as the
Botevot shooting range. Can we go on there?
There's a lot of bullets.
But how are they got so many bullets?
Because Stalin has got the economy
moving. Right.
He really has.
So it's, you know...
He's eating fibre. He's eating fibre.
And they're eating bullets.
You know? Get the economy moving. You can do
anything. Yeah. Right.
Can you shoot someone with a cabbage?
Yes, you can. Obviously, you just put
a cabbage in a cannon, Charlie.
Cabbage ball.
Hold up and it can cause severe injury or even death, depending on the velocity.
While it sounds like a joke, firing a dense, heavy vegetable like a capuchat of a compressed air cannon,
transforms it into a dangerous projectile.
Well, thank you, AI.
Yes, we may be joking, but there's serious, the serious damage that can be done.
This is why the Ukrainians have held out so long against the Russians.
It is.
They're firing cabbages at drones.
That's what I understand is the current conflict is...
The cabbage derby.
Impact.
In tests conducted by shows like Mythbusters,
cabbage is fired from a pneumatic cannon
carry enough force to shatter targets
and punch through solid structures.
If a two bound cabbage strikes a human being at high speeds
it acts as a blunt force object.
Well, there you go.
Facial trauma if it hits the head.
Imagine dying from a cabbage to the head.
You couldn't, I would say you wouldn't live with yourself,
but obviously you'd do.
But my God.
Yeah, human being.
I really hope I don't die that way.
Give me the ick.
Yeah.
I mean, at the funeral, you just be laughing.
Yeah.
You know?
This is what we were laughing.
Charlie recently went skydiving and we were worried.
What were you thinking about when,
about you if you died?
Obviously it would be devastating and it would be,
you know, personally quite,
be quite emotional, of course,
but it also,
it also, it's like, I don't know how long before we'd joke
about it.
I don't know if, like it's obviously so shocking.
I'll be so upset.
I don't trust myself.
But if you jumped out of plane and just splurbed,
Brazilian Dignitas stuff.
It's like, like what are you doing?
What comes first to laugh for the cry?
I really don't know.
I don't trust myself.
Genuinely.
Before I started crying, I go, of course he did.
Of course he did.
Don't have a plane with no one attached to?
I go for fucks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We died how he lived, didn't he?
Yeah.
Throwing poo into the toilet.
He threw himself out of play.
Instructor.
Wait.
Oh, fuck.
That's what.
Skydiving instructor.
you're not chain onto the
fuck
gonna lose my license
fucking idiot
wait
Finn I show you
have you seen this video
you've seen the video
no I've seen the photos of you
it gets the
mouth open like a fucking fish
the whole time
yeah have you noticed
that he's strapped to Beethoven's brother
you noticed that
look at his smog face
the guy's skylighting is looking at the camera
like look at that
You would be a bit smug, though.
Yeah, and Charlie's absolutely losing his mind.
And bait over his brother's just like...
You look like a turtle.
You look a tortoise.
What are you thinking?
It's like a tortoise. It's like a tortoise spotting a lettuce.
What does it feel like, Charlie?
It feels like you are about to die.
It feels like you're plummeting to...
I think your body thinks you're about to die.
Look at my fucking face, is it?
Not looking at the ground?
Yeah.
Hating it.
Yeah, to be honest, for the first...
I'm screaming
Look at that
screaming
Where are you doing this
In the fence
In the fence
In the fence
Fats part of the UK
Dying in the Farrant
I don't want to die in the fence
Anyway
Fucking hell
I don't think I'd do that
Yeah
Right
Anyway
So
Yeah basically the pressure
To meet all these targets
They're just random
Limits
They was called
Basically means that
Tortures encouraged
Accusations
It's a complete
complete blood bath.
When people are uncooperative, Stalin just says
squeeze them until they talk.
I don't think that's literally squeeze.
I think it's probably more brutal than that.
Yes.
It depends whether they're squeezing.
Children are encouraged to think of themselves
as Stalin's children first and then their parents' children second.
There's Mao as well.
This is the communist thing.
You destroy the race between the parent and the child.
It's all powerful.
Exactly.
Get the children to tell on their parents.
Yeah.
So a lot of people are sent to the gulag, which is essentially, we deal with this slightly
in the last episode.
It's like the, it's prison labor.
A productive concentration camp.
Yes, exactly.
Berrier holds these, Stalin says to bear it at one point, who's going to remember all this riffraff
in 10 or 20 years time?
No one.
Well, they don't know that we, they had no idea that we'd be doing an episode about them.
But they were right.
What do you mean?
I don't remember, I don't know where any of their names are.
Right, fair enough.
Stalin, yeah.
Barrier, yeah.
You know them.
We're not doing a patron episode
and maybe we've got squeezed.
Exactly.
Some people are forgotten
because they're meant to be.
My words,
thousands of names bear
his initials and ticks.
Deserves it.
Deserved prostitute.
Scum.
Scum.
Scum.
So, crucially, he also sends
a lot of the high-ranking
military to the Gulag.
So 80%
of the highest ranking generals and commanders are removed, executed.
That's so many.
35,000 red army officers removed.
Yeah.
So this is all just before World War II as well.
Bear in mind, yeah, in the sort of late 30s, everyone is re-arming.
Germany under Hitler has an army of about three and a half million men, right?
Britain has like a tiny army.
The US have less than 200,000, right?
Stalin has a huge army, but takes out all his own high command.
Yeah.
Right.
A lot of them gets sent to the gulag, rather than, you know,
than killed, which is important for later, but many of them do just get executed.
Now, the gulags were actually Lenin's idea.
Give him his flowers.
Those are Lenin's idea.
He's not all bad.
No, he was a good guy.
He could have fun when it mattered.
Yeah.
Right.
But Stalin expands it.
And prisoners are expected to work to make the camp economically useful.
Yeah.
Yeah, their output would depend how much food would determine the food they get.
slave labor, industrial development, etc.
I feel like we, I mean, the camp's become quite full after terror.
And prisoners refer to it as dry execution.
Death through hunger, cold, relentless physical labour.
What's wet execution then?
When your brains are splattered everywhere, maybe?
Yeah, I guess so.
Drowning.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, dry food versus wet food for dogs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kibble.
Wet food's better for dogs, right?
It's classier.
But it's gross.
It's expensive and it's gross.
Yeah.
And it makes the kitchen honk of tribe.
Are you doing wet food?
We put a bit of wet food in with the kibble
just to help her get the kibble.
Okay.
She won't go for kibble.
Fussy?
I'm talking about the dog, right, rather than...
She's fussy about the kibble.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she's more discerning than Charlie's.
She...
My dog, yeah.
My dog actually does have more.
Yeah, does have a higher discerning.
Well, her loss.
Her loss.
Yeah.
Get competitive with the dog.
I'd love to see...
Slagin the dog off.
I'd love to see the two of you go.
out for a meal and there's two bowls on the floor
and you're both just
you're gonna eat that?
You're gonna finish that?
You can finish that kibble?
She quite often leaves a bit of kibble around the bowl
because she's eating all the wet food.
I don't know what kibble is.
You'd like it.
It's like dry food.
Sort of biscuits.
I like meaty biscuits.
Crackers.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you like.
You'll be on the floor face down.
This is fucked.
This is fucked.
Who made this?
Fuck me.
Awesome in the air.
Awesome in the air.
Yeah.
Facing the bowl.
so they think 2.7 million people died in the gulag
however dying prisoners are like this they were released shortly before death
so that they didn't die in the gulag doesn't count go over there
but it doesn't count there's not a gulag death no it's not it's not in the gulag
yeah yeah you fucking died in natural causes you left and you died which means you should
have stayed so don't leave yeah who's that for her who's that who's that for
Stalin's enjoying that.
What do you mean?
Is that as a joke or is that for the papers?
What?
It's for papers.
No,
isn't,
is it that so that we don't think that he killed as many people?
Yes.
But who's that for at the time?
Who's,
what's the question?
Why does he care?
He's angry.
He's angry.
Yeah.
Come on.
Smacking his head.
Why does he care?
It's about perception, isn't it?
By who?
Well, the rest of the world.
Is anyone there?
Is anyone there?
But Daily Mail?
gate what's going
well there's other equivalence
of the daily mail really the reporters are at the gulag
she's been like what the fuck is going on
communism is all about numbers
it's all about targets so
fudging the numbers and targets is important for the way that you
sell and propagandise the regime
who's checking
who cares
I think it's just general
discrepancies you just
you don't want a foreign journalist finding out
it's quite hard to do his your podcast when you're just going yeah but who
care who fucking cares
quite a lot of people yeah no I care
a lot of people care well you care then I care about
this question well then it's to stop you finding out then
yeah yeah well I know now it's all for you
everything it didn't work it didn't work
everything everything everything was for you
um now
Stalin has a huge cult of personality
right uh he presents himself as Lenin's
successor and then gradually
Photoshop's Lenin out of the picture
um so there's lots of photographs
showing Lenin Stalin having a good time together
Yes.
Which is a kind of doctored.
It's early Photoshop stuff.
Yeah.
Yes.
Early AI stuff.
Yeah.
From 1935, nurseries display the slogan,
Thank you, dear Comrade Stalin for a happy childhood.
And that's like when we had,
thank you, dear comrade Stama for a happy church.
We have the same thing in London that's recently just gone.
So they have, during a speech,
he has an 11 minute standing ovation because people are terrified to be the first person to stop clapping.
It's like Cannes.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is like a crap film at Cannes.
Yeah.
Any film it can.
Bollocks. Everyone's clapping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So let's get to my favorite bit of the story.
Stalin tying up the loose end of that wanker in Mexico.
The ultimate loose end.
The ultimate Leon Trotsky.
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now Trotsky is writing pamphlets
he's condemning the purges
what I like about this as well
is that he's writing loads of stuff condemning it
he's sending it's like British publication stuff
none of it's allowed in the Soviet Union
but Stalin's reading all of it
and it's hurting his feelings
he's getting pissed off
no man no problem
let's hunt Trotsky down
so he's obsessed he becomes obsessed
with Trotsky's writings even though you're right
he's the only person reading it
yeah
so he's like you what
you fucking
over here and say that.
Come over fucking in and say that.
So,
now,
there's a,
Trotsky basically is also quite paranoid,
but with good reason.
Yeah.
So he builds himself,
he builds himself,
essentially bin Laden's a butter bad compound in Mexico.
Yeah.
Right.
He's living with,
a burrito bad.
A burrito bad.
Bad burrito.
He's on the toilet, right.
Trotsky's had a bad burrito,
stuck on the toilet.
So,
The NKVD are trying to penetrate Trotsky's inner circle.
The Trotsky knows Stalin's out for him.
So he would always hide behind the seats in cars and stuff in Mexico.
He settles in the Koyakan neighborhood of Mexico City,
a little suburb outside.
Now, he's not with Frida Carlo,
but he's hobnobing about with her.
Yeah.
Frida Carlo, our male listeners won't know,
but she's that annoying woman with a monobrow
who's on all this kitsch stuff your girlfriend,
lives.
It feels like they're part of a polychule almost.
It's just an artistic sort of everyone can rummage around in each other
if they're so please.
What did Frida Carlo do,
apart from having a monorbrow?
because I'm still bewildered.
She did self-portraits about female health
and what it means for a woman's body to change, I believe, or something like that.
There's a lot of stuff about periods.
What's actually?
Yeah, I think she used to do self-portraits in ways that hadn't been done before.
It was actually.
And she was incredibly ill.
She had polio and survived a bus crash.
Because that's what I say is a joke.
And her body deteriorated and she like did portraits of her own show in a woman's
body injured.
That's just funny
that I was like,
I don't know,
some fucking woman
with the monobrow
just draws her periods
and it does actually
I was spot on.
Spot on.
Once again,
never miss.
Taylor's laser guided
focus bangs again.
Well,
there you go.
Fine.
Anyway.
Her and Trotsky are
banging on about
fucking other.
Are they banging each other?
I mean,
they're chatting a lot
more than they're fucking
I think,
but I think they fucked a little bit.
They did fuck.
Did they?
How are you just can just tell?
Fuck it out.
Charlie finally having
any,
hasn't said anything.
Is there a more punchable wedding?
Is it going on a double date
with Trotsky and Frida Carlo?
This is my reaction.
You got two fists.
That's what the double punches made for.
Left, right.
Fucking hell.
Tap ass with Trotsky and Carlo.
Kill me.
But then again, every double date
I'll go on like that.
Do you still go on them?
Hey?
She still going on double days?
Yeah.
You have to.
You're a couple.
If you're a couple.
You're married.
Husband and wife.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
They're not swingers.
no I'm not swinging
you're not double dating as in like
couple friends
yeah it's called a double date
what'd you guys do
you go out for dinner
crispy cream
don't go to crispy cream
any people have similar lives
so you can't
if you're a couple
you can't just keep going out
with single people
because you know
you're living in it for life
because you're fucking
flicking your shit at the walls
you're you know
yeah exactly
you're working a gulag
in south London
yeah you're going to
fucking you know
ambient music listening parties
underneath railway stations
couples can't do that
I can't do that
I've got a mortgage
and two kids
yeah
we can find a middle ground.
Well, yeah, it would be our ground.
It would be having dinner like us, like an all person.
So it's quite hurt by that.
Digging a fucking trench in Patagonia.
Right.
Anyway, so Trotsky and Carlo, right, insufferable squared.
They're wanging about Mexico.
And now, there's an initial assassination attempt
where 20 armed men enter a burrito bad,
those compounds.
Disguised of Mexican soldiers,
big mustache, sombreros.
Hey, Capron!
They've got nacho hats
They got Dorito in here
They're doing the Natchez
They're difficult
Got Jesus
And Trotsky's like
Well they're Mexicans
Of course I mean
It's an authentic dress
That's authentic Mexicans
You know
You'll explore the culture
They got Doritos
They're fucking sombrero
They then gun him
They fire 200 bullets at the house
But Trotskin and his wife
Hide underneath their bed
I don't understand how they escape
I think one of his grandkids
dies or gets hit
Anyway they both survive
Stalin, livid.
Absolutely livid.
So they then go to a guy
called Ramon Mercada,
who's a Spanish communist
who gets recruited by Soviet intelligence.
And he's a Stalinist
who is unknown to Trotsky, crucially.
So he starts to hang out
with, is it Trotsky's misses?
He starts to become friends with his misses.
Soft underbelly.
The soft underbelly.
Interestingly, I said that about Amanda the other day.
She was your soft underbelly.
Yeah, she didn't go that.
she didn't get the reference so it did not go down well at all and i was like no no like
churchill in italy and forty fuck yeah i fucked it i've got to i've got to realize i can't talk
like i do here at home that's what's what works for i know manders the soft underbelly
what oh fuck no you do the reading anyway um so uh yeah sylvia agelov who's a trotskist
uh so maced maced maced macaida russer
juices her.
Anyway,
so he chats to the guards,
hands out cigarettes,
doesn't immediately want to see Trotsky.
And then eventually becomes part of the furniture.
So this is after like weeks,
is it?
Then he takes Trotsky's wife shopping,
takes his grandson out of the compound,
drops his grandkids off at the pool.
And then...
Too much information.
Then...
I don't need to hear all this personal stuff.
Then one day, what day is it?
It's in 1940, I think.
20th August, 1940.
He arrived at Trotsky's house,
wearing a suspiciously warm coat for the summer.
Yeah, and also there's a lack of nachos in a sombrero.
Something's not right here.
Is this guy really Mexican?
Where are the cool original Doritos in your sombrero?
Yeah.
Why is he not followed by a mariachi band
signaling that a Mexican character
has just arrived on the scene?
You know?
It's like in sharp when a Spanish rule comes on.
And there's, d-l-l-l-l-l-l-ling.
Well, I know you're Spanish now
because there's a Spanish guitar.
But you don't have any nachos or,
cheese in your eyes.
Something's just not adding up
again, it's a red flag that Trotsky
misses. Yes. Because it's blended
with all the other red flags in his room. He's a communist.
He's a fucking communist, right?
So he goes and says, I've written
something I'd like Trotsky to look at.
So he goes into his study and then
they were left alone and then Trotsky starts
wanging on about some bullets on his
desk and then
Maccada. I don't know how you say his name.
Is it Mercedes or Maccada?
Anyway, Maccada
basically reveals an ice axe,
not a pick.
It's an ice axe before anyone
humachial, he's me.
And he smashes it into the back of Trotsky's head,
which must have felt so satisfying.
And this is kind of, it's, you know,
it's Anne Whittakerum stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, it is the long road to...
He gets Whittickhamed.
He gets Whittickham,
or rather, Wittakeran gets Trotsky.
Which is funny, because they're both
very different politicians.
Well, exactly.
It's the horseshoe theory.
It doesn't matter if you're left or right.
some guy can hit you
over the head
at the end of it
yeah
if you're an annoying
politician
yeah if you're annoying
you're gonna get hit over there
doesn't
you got nothing to do
with policy
you know
it's actually quite
sort of centrist stuff
really
at the end of the day
if you've got an annoying
voice
it's pretty like this
doesn't matter
if you're on the right
or the left
oh fuck oh shut up
fuck off
shut up
yeah
um
shut up
shut up
Fuck, I'm just idiot.
Prick.
But, right, unlike Widdickum,
Trotsky only gets one blow to the head.
As opposed to 21.
At close to 21.
Which is perhaps over-egging it.
Yes.
Anyway.
Got to be sure, though.
You have to be sure.
Yeah, he had driven for a long journey.
He's got to make the drive worth it.
Yeah.
So I think did it get lodged?
I think he gets lodged in his head.
Yeah.
And then Trotsky, I mean, Maccardo later claims
he'd never forget Trotsky's scream.
That's it, is it?
Horny.
Ah.
Well, it depends what...
Fuck.
Bored.
Is that bored?
Is that you and your board?
The one you just...
The one you said was like a bored pawn star
on the fifth take of the day.
Ah, fuck.
Ah, fuck.
Charlie, give me...
You're a bored porn star.
Give me a bored orgasm.
Oh, fuck, I'm gonna come.
Oh, my fucking God.
Right, so it soundscape.
Hey, cabrude.
Ah.
I will never forget that scream.
Uh-huh.
It was kind of bored and poorly.
Oh.
And I forgot my national hat.
Great Doritos advert, though.
Brilliant Doritos advert.
Cool original.
Probably more chili heat wave actually
I reckon
No, Widdickum's
shitty heat wave
It's got nothing to do
With Mexico or Doritos
Just play the ad
What's that Doritos?
What's that Doritos?
That's fucking weird
It's just
CCTV footage
Rammandoam
getting her head bashed in
And then just
Doritos
Chili Heat Whed
This is quite an edgy podcast
But for an ad
That is spicy
That's funny
Even for me
I'm like
I wouldn't sign that off
I'd be like how
All up for a laugh
But that is
I'd be like
How is it?
got to my desk.
How has it got to my desk?
It feels like middle management
really should have put us up to this.
Sorry, you're advertising.
I think of the episode of Mad Men, Don Draper.
Yeah.
What?
Chili, he waved do you do.
What, you're just saying play.
We hammer her head in 21 times.
Yeah, that just says chili e wove.
What?
There could be a comb advert where it's like somebody,
he's bashing her in the head with a comb.
And then it's like, she's,
she's on the floor.
but she's got a comb in her head
and it's Anne with Decombe
Oh, it's all for that
I don't know
I knew it was gonna be crap
but I don't know which flavour of crap
it was gonna be
It's nearly always to rhyme
It's all for that
Rubbish
Rubbish
Well unlike Anne Widdickam
Trotsky fights back
He remains conscious long enough
He Rasputin's it
He does
Ah
Rasputin with a small knob
Oh
And then Macada's like,
Cabranoi.
And Trotsky says,
don't kill you.
This man has a story to tell.
So he's chatting?
Yeah, he's chatting.
He still won't shut up.
He still won't fucking shut up.
Right?
At least Whitacom zipped it.
Maccada cries out,
they have my mother.
Right.
Anyway, Trotsky gets taken to hospital
and he dies the following day.
Now,
Maccada is sentenced to 20 years
in a Mexican prison, but he never acknowledges
that he acting on Stalin's behalf.
And then when he's, when he is freed,
he gets the, like, hero of the Soviet Union medal.
Yes, and also while he's in prison,
Stalin makes sure that he's getting sucked off
all the time and stuff like that.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, it's just a nice thing.
He gets more comfortable chairs.
He gets better food.
More flavors of Doritos.
And then he's getting lots of women sent,
Mexican women there to suck him off.
Oh, that's nice.
It's a touch of class from Stalin.
A Mexican girlfriend who would visit.
You're going to have to serve the time.
Rogelia.
Now, Roger as a female name is...
I don't know about that.
Well, look.
To be honest, we couldn't find any women
who would suck you off
if we had to do.
I got Roger, put an A on the end.
Rogelia.
Yeah, he's wearing a wig.
Look at the ceiling.
Pretend it's a woman.
It's a prison.
It's the best going to get,
but yeah.
Just eat some of the nachos
out the top of his sombrero hat
as he's sucking you off.
Is that what that hat's for?
Oh, that's nice.
Christ, they've really nailed it.
Mexican blow jobs.
Look at that.
I mean, sensory.
think about that 4D experience
like subway surf a video on top of a
podcast clip
you get sucked off and you're dipping
next good
but can you keep still please
I'm trying
you've got like a tray of dips
you've got like a yogurt one and a spicy one
can you keep still
spill in the salsia
that's hedonistic
that is hedonistic
no that is too much
come on
that's not very just a camera vites
no it's not
not very Stalinist
oh boy yourself together
um Christ there's still so much
history to do
now just before Trotsky
meets his end
there is probably the most significant
event of the 30s
yeah definitely
the Nazi Soviet
pact now by
1939 friend of the pod Adolf Hitler
had spent years denouncing Bolshev
This is like the Thurneberg Netanyahu pact
isn't it? Yes it is exactly
It's the kind of it's the opposites right
yeah because everyone's head's just like what the fuck
I thought
Greta Bebe
packed. What on earth?
But you're opposites. Yeah.
It's opposite day. Yeah. But what are they
carving up? It was great. I just going to have a bit of Palestine.
I don't know. Is that what the pact is?
Because Nazi Soviet pact is they're going to basically carve up Poland.
Yeah. Maybe they get Netanyahu who gets a bit of her
flotilla navy. Netanyahu's like, if you never have Palestine, I'll solve climate
challenge for you. Yeah. She's like,
well, all right. Jews do control the weather.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah.
Yeah. Fine. Okay. Yeah.
It does it does read
I feel like
Because Nathan Yah is just like
Right there we go
Glim warning
Zzzar
Yeah
Done
Yeah done
Now stop being annoying
Yeah
Now zip it
And let me get on with this
Yeah
I feel like
You know
I just watched
Burnham's
You know
Yeah
I watched the last night
Everyone's saying
It's brilliant
Yeah
I feel like he's
Mr Tricking
Not
What
We could
We could solve
Climate Change
and the Middle East
with one solution.
So what?
Is he going to be
the one brokering the deal?
Is that what you think
that would be a good move
for Burnham?
Yeah, it'd be the Burnham
Burnham-Nat-Nehud deal.
Yeah, well no,
rather than,
it's the Molotov-Rivenya-Pact.
So it'd be Ben-Gavir.
That's what I mean,
Burnham-Bengavir pact.
Yeah.
You can have Gaza,
but the Jews have to stop climate change
which is in their power
because of trouble.
And I know they can
so we can stop pretending.
So actually just do it,
would you?
Actually do it.
Yeah.
And thanks to make it rain
on my birthday again.
actually use your powers for once please. It was a
barbecue in July. Why did it have to
rain then? I'm sorry. Yeah.
That we stopped fucking settler colonialism in the
fucking haloddible over a birthday.
Everyone went home hungry. Yeah?
Anyway,
yeah. So the
so the precursor to the
Ribbon-Trump Molotov pact is the
Burn and Ben-Gavir pact.
Which is a great idea, I
think. I back that.
I feel like we should also...
It would be actually Miliband-Bengivir, wouldn't it?
It would be the Miliband-Gavir.
Yeah, with Miliband-Gavir pact.
Because Miliband was energy secretary.
But yeah, but now he's foreign secretary.
So he'd be like, fuck, you've got me.
Yeah.
I have to say yes to this.
Both issues solved.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Um, so.
Did you see fucking Ben-Gavir is now siding with Argentina's claim for the Falklands?
Fuck me.
Did you see it?
He did a tweet saying,
The State of Israel should recognize Argentina's rightful claims because Ed Miliband
supported.
said that what was going on in the West Bank was...
Jesus Christ.
But that's like, what the fuck?
Because...
But part of me, I don't know if you agree.
Part of me wants them to try again.
Oh, do you know what I mean?
I'd love them to try again.
Get Israel involved.
We'll show them anything or two.
The same reason I don't want Tottenham relegated from the Premier League.
I enjoy pumping up the Emirates every year.
It's great for mental health.
Normally happens about springtime.
It just gives me a little pep in my step.
Yeah.
I want them to try again.
Every 10 years, I want the forklums to be alive.
Let's just do it.
Let's just do it.
Let's just run that shit back.
Come on.
The boys need a run out.
Prince Harry's back in the country.
Come on.
Come on.
Let's do it.
We can do another flying Pido.
I mean, Andrew can, a redemption story.
Oh my God.
Can you imagine the narrative?
What about Andrew Kamakazis?
I mean, what always.
Into Port Stanley.
Andrew 9-11's, the Malvinas.
And everyone's like, do you know what?
Yeah.
He was a, he was a war hero.
He was.
He was.
He was.
That's an honorable way out for.
Andrew.
Fully.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I think it's the only out now.
Yeah.
He goes,
let me back into the fold and I will 9-11 Port Stanley.
Give me a state funeral.
That's all I ask.
And then he does.
And we're like,
oh, no, they haven't invaded.
Oh, no.
You've just crashed a plane into British territory.
Oh, you got to have to wait.
Yeah.
And it was like,
there was a young child in there.
This is exactly what we did want to happen.
Oh, no.
You've flown the Lelita into Port Stanley.
You've flown the Epstein Express into Port Stanley.
That's, the optics are awful.
Fuck, but the thing is...
No, but Israel, Israel allying with Argentina.
I know, this is the craziest shit.
I was chatting to be doing this.
What is going on there?
What about the whole Eichmann thing?
Yeah.
It's insane.
Argentina just dropping out of there.
Yeah.
You know, fucking Nicholas Winton from Britain.
I don't give a fuck about us anymore.
They're going to support the fucking, the country that house Mengele.
Well, look at that.
So they're going on the side of the country that house Mengele as opposed to,
the country of Nicholas Winton.
Come on.
Come on.
But once again...
But do you remember...
I'm so honest, I don't want to try Israel
that.
If Israel are helping Argentina,
then that's not...
I don't mind playing Argentina,
but I would be a bit scared
fighting Israel.
No, come on.
They're a long way from home.
Yeah, okay.
That's our southern border.
We could take them.
Yeah.
They won't have a navy.
Israel?
Yeah, they won't have...
Well, they get Greta Thumbog's...
We've got two ships.
What about Thumbugs' rape for...
Fottes...
Okay.
Well, yeah.
Okay, they've got one rape plitilla, but we have two ships now.
Okay.
We do have two ships.
There's a new one being built?
I think that's a long way off.
Okay.
But we've got two ships.
The Navy's down to two ships, is it?
I think it's two ships currently.
Ours at a friend's 30th, seeing a military wife whose husband is a submarine
captain, but he doesn't have a submarine because we don't have them.
A captain without a submarine.
Devastating.
60.
We have 60 active ships.
That doesn't sound like enough.
It's not enough.
Oh, and one historic vessel, HMS victory.
Get the victory.
out, getting the victory back out.
If we retake the Falklands with the victory.
Come on.
Fucking hell.
There's no way it would get out at Portsmouth.
It would sink before it even left.
Come on.
Right.
We digress.
What are we going to do?
We're fighting Israel and the Falklands, I think.
We're now sort of enjoying the fantasy
of fighting Israel and the Falklands.
We haven't really talked about an Nazi Soviet pact.
I think we'll have to leave that to next episode now, I think.
So, I don't know how long this series is going to be now,
but it's all on the poachian and the rest of it.
And we will, in our next episode,
episode, we will get to the Tatemic Nazi Soviet pact, the Finnish War, Barbarossa.
Some of the best photo ops?
Yeah, 100%.
Of all time, maybe?
Yeah.
And we will get to Stalin's Tatemic role in World War II.
That's all the next episode.
Thank you for joining us, patrons.
Apologies, we enjoyed Trotsky's assassination too much, as I knew I would.
Yeah, enjoyed the fantasy of Israel and evaded and the Falklands.
I don't know how we got there, but what a time we've had.
I don't know.
And as soon as these hats come on, there's just something happens.
I want to talk about the Falklands.
See you next time.
Bye-bye.
Goodbye.
Bye.
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