Fin vs History - I’m Not Racist, Some of My Best Hostages Are Black | The Iranian Revolution, 1979 (3/3)
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Welcome back to Finn versus history.
As ever, I'm joined by Horatio Gould.
And this is part three of our epic series
on the Islamic Revolution in Iran.
Yeah.
We are in 1978.
Yeah.
For context, this is after Peles won the World Cup.
Yeah.
Peles in America, probably.
New York Cosmos.
It's before Zedan's head butt.
Yeah.
So that should place it.
That should place it in the history of football.
ball.
This is where Pelle is playing against kind of like basically amateur non-league players and
racking up his goals, Halley.
And he's getting a big endorsement from Viagra companies.
Is he?
Yeah, he's like the original influencer, but for making your dick big.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They joke about it in The Simpsons, that's how.
Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I also saw a kind of like, it could have been like take a break bag or even Daily Mail
or Daily Mail or just an absolute rag saying that Pelle, exume Pelle, because he's my dad.
and it's someone claiming this is dad and he wants to exhume Pele.
Exume Pele.
Now we're very pro exhuming.
Yeah, I know, but hashtag, I want to start in a hashtag, hashtag exhumpele.
It's just a great thing to start trending.
Peli was first ever ambassador for erectile dysfunction, but said he never used Viagra.
Well, so what's, yeah.
Are you just thumbing it in?
Is that what you're doing?
Is that what you're doing?
That's, yeah, that's an insecure straight guy at a chapel row in concert saying, well, I'm not, I'm still.
I'm so straight.
I'm straight.
I don't really know who Chapel.
Don't really know who Chapel Roan is.
Just because, you know, chaperone is, don't you?
I know what she looks like.
Right.
I don't know why she's a thing, what she's doing.
Finn, we all know you're straight.
You don't need to hammer at home.
I can't stress.
I don't know why she's popular.
I don't know who she, I know what she looks like.
Yeah.
She hosts it and has Saturday Night Live.
Yeah.
Well, it's like a straight guy going there for the music,
but constantly able to remind people that he is straight.
I'm straight, by the way.
I'm straight by the way.
I like the music.
I enjoy the, that's Pelego, and I enjoy the idea of Viagra,
helping out many men,
but doesn't mean I need it.
I'm giving it to everyone
that I'm sucking off.
Yeah.
Now, Ayatollah Klamini,
he's probably not using Viagra
because I don't...
He's using the opposite of Viagra.
What is he goes floppy?
Yeah, I guess it's to stop
of having a reaction.
What's the opposite of Viagra?
I don't think that's a good Google.
Because I need it.
Whatever it is.
Whatever it is, sign me up.
You see an arm cross leg for three hours?
Yeah.
That's got a raging lob on.
Whenever I think about the Iranian Revolution,
I get rock hard.
Yeah.
my um end of my dicks like kamani's
well yeah
my soldier my soldier my
my cock is sort of like a
sort of like a North Korea military
it's always at attention
straight backed yeah always ready for any
Terracotta army
that's my call my cock and balls
I think that's a fraud in slip you call it a soldier
I reckon that's the relationship you have to it
what? Get in there get in there
pull yourself together soldier
you're always caught marshalling it for
coming too quickly
clean your boots
up for Christ's it.
Inspection! Oh dear. Oh, no, you've come again.
Let's get back to it.
An aphrodisiac is a substance that quails or blunts the libido.
It's the opposite of an aphrodisiac.
So let's get some examples of that.
Clinical studies show that Chialis does not reliably achieve hard.
I don't want a harder erection child.
Charlie, he is struggling. He is being way down.
I'm erect all the time.
There's barely any blood going to any part of his body because it's all going to the court.
It's just all going in there.
I need an iotologist.
to come and slap it down, whack them all my dick.
In the way that Britain is too centralised around London,
Finn's blood is all in his cock.
We need to have bases up in Leeds.
We need HS2 to make sure.
We need HS2 to my brain.
The canary wharf of my dick and balls
is powering the country's finances.
But at the cost of the rest.
The cost of the rest of the country.
My hands are cold.
We need a northern powerhouse.
We need a northern...
It's a white elephant.
My spine's a white elephant.
Have we managed to not say one thing
about what we're talking about
on this episode?
No, we have.
Pele.
Pele.
Pele's around,
but Zedan has not headbutted
Marco Matarazzi.
Probably the most
Is it a headbutler thing he does.
It's the headbutt.
Yeah, yeah.
I reckon Ayatollah Kameni liked a headbutt.
Yeah, he's got a good headbutt with that.
Well, it's quite, maybe softened by his turban.
That's true, actually.
Yeah, so it probably makes it.
But maybe he takes it off
and then has a spike
Well, apparently, I watched documentary on Al Jazeera.
Apparently, he was an incredibly loving grandfather.
Oh, okay.
And like...
Was he actually?
Yeah, he had seven kids, I think.
Right.
Seven kids.
Well, Hitler loved his dog.
Yep, that's a big old swing.
Please don't cut our heads off.
Although, I then also saw an interview with Mohammed bin Salman who called Ayatollah Khmer
Hitler.
Right.
Famously, those two don't get on.
They don't get on.
Sunnis and Shiites.
They, um, yeah, they don't like it.
so we left off at the trigger of the Iranian revolution arguably
when the Shah mistakenly makes a bad move
by not mistakenly he purposely
but it was a mistake to purposely call the Ayatollah a gay man
the straightest man in the world
basically it's it's Kirstama taking out space
in the Sunday times to call Boris Johnson a gay lord
right that's what he's done yeah and almost the other round
Johnson, this is Winston, this is when Starmes in opposition.
And this causes riots because to lots of people, Hermione's their, you know, he's their icon.
He's the, he, as we were saying last time, he wears all black, he's a blank canvas, onto which communists, middle class liberals, sort of more moderate religious people, they all put their ambitions and dreams for the country onto him, even though he is Mr. Grumpikins, sorry, Dr. Grumpikins, the hardest straightest, no, you know, death penalty for sucking.
dick's he hates everything yeah he's grumpy cunt number one yeah uh do you know what he'd be
you know Sean Walsh's podcast what's up set you now he'd be great on that he'd be such a good guess
would yeah yeah yeah well no it wouldn't actually because most we go on that you talk about like
when I went on that I talked about um low traffic neighborhoods right LTNs yeah road works why why did that
piss you off what I don't get me fucking started on well let's hear the Ayatollahs view no my point is
the Ayatollah would go on there and he'd be like I'll tell you what I fucking hate is people
sucking dicks and then they'd have to be like well this is
It's a bit serious.
A bit serious, mate.
I felt like you meant that.
More lighthearted.
Yeah, it's my...
I would love to know the little things
that irked him
because I imagine there was a lot of...
I guess he's not much of a small talker.
Doesn't like to see women's hair?
Yeah.
That's not a little thing, I guess.
Again, I tell you what he probably does hate
is how big the Quran is
because he still doesn't finish it.
He's been reading for 20 years
and he doesn't know how the story ends.
Read another book, lad.
Choose another book.
Read a paper.
Read the Be no.
Khomeini's not reading the Beano
So he's in France
So he might be reading Charlie Hebdo
Maybe
So Kameni's in France
Been kicked out of Iraq by Saddam
So he goes where's the next smeliest place
France
And he becomes the rallying figure
For opposition
For quite a lot of truths
He's quite a cross-factional thing
Broad church
Very broad church
Ironically
Because it becomes an unbelievably narrow church
I said the narrowest church
There is
Is that my fundamentalism
there is no wiggle room for anything yeah they hate wiggle room these guys
no no does it fit no get out so uh his tapes his bootlegs is it's very dry music's all
been smuggled in terrible mixed tapes but the west the west think he's like gandy they think
he's this kind of he's beautiful austere yeah um there's probably a bit of like noble savage
racism into it as well um in september 78 exoticized but basically in 1978 they're
increasing protests and crucially, again, if we're talking about the Shah of Iran's big
boo-boos, one of them is that he hasn't given the army or the police a moderate crowd
control. It's either got, they've either got megaphones or bullets. Yeah. So when the crowds get
too big, they just shoot everyone. So they have a bloody Friday, which is, it's interesting how
they don't come up with new terms. Everyone's got their bloody Fridays, their bloody Sundays. Has there
been any
bloody Tuesdays?
I don't
bloody,
bloody Tuesday is that
it's always bloody.
Because it's
bloody Friday,
it's bloody Sunday.
There's loads
of bloody Sundays.
Like the Irish
Sunday was like
the fourth bloody Sunday.
But you'd think
like bloody,
that's an Alabama.
Bloody Tuesday.
So there's a,
refers to brutal
police attack
on civil rights march
in Tuscalo,
Alabama.
Right.
Bloody Wednesday.
Let's get through it.
Hang on,
what's bloody Monday?
We haven't done
Monday,
Monday,
Monday,
Monday,
first.
Monday night
football.
Yeah,
we've got Gary Neville
and Jamie
carrier. So as you can see, let's stop it.
Bloody Mondays in Kentucky. There you go.
Protestant and Rob's attacked Irish and German Catholics.
All right. Bloody Tuesday's Alabama in the 60s.
Bloody Wednesday. Is there any
day of the week that's not bloody?
Doesn't have a bloody... But you'd think
after they've done one bloody Sunday, they go, well, the next time
it's gory Sunday. Yeah, that's what...
It's the... It's like poopy Sunday.
That's respectful.
Bloody Wednesday is a film.
Hang on, scroll down, scroll down. Bloody Wednesday.
The event... Ah, here we go. Kingdom of
Poland. Operation Harvest.
festival
murder of 43,000 Jews.
Okay, now he's excited.
What the fuck?
Hang on.
Pogrom.
It's a pogrom.
It's a Polish pogram.
But that's what I mean.
Bloody Sunday is like...
Bloody Thursday, let's complete the list.
Hang on.
As the bloodies go up to the number,
43,000 on one day.
We'd imagine near the end of the week
there's going to be more people congregating.
Right.
I see what you mean.
Bloody Thursday.
Please kill two longshoremen.
So hang on.
So bloody Wednesday,
43,000 Jews die.
Bloody Thursday is just two.
Yeah.
I think, do you know what?
I'd say that's not enough for a...
Well, let's see, yeah, two's definitely not.
I'd say that's just a bad Thursday.
That's a rubbish Thursday.
And we've got Bloody Friday.
That's what we're talking about.
Bloody Saturday.
Yeah, that bloody Thursday, they're really fucking clutching.
They're undermining.
Bloody Saturday can refer to several...
Several.
Let's have a look.
Scroll down.
A photograph of a crying baby after a Japanese...
What?
Revers the climax of the Winnipeg General Strike
where Mounted the Police Unit busted fire into...
It's going to Shanghai during the second of war.
Bricks and...
on every day of the week.
But I will say
that bloody Thursday
is the least
is the least.
Go back to what that was.
It was two longshoremen.
In the San Francisco
General Strike
sparking a major confrontation.
No,
no,
no, no, no.
You can't have that.
That's just bad Thursday.
Anyway, so...
Unlucky Thursday.
unlucky for you.
So on Bloody Friday...
43,000 plays
two longshoremen.
That's not fair.
So the Shah
causes Bloody Friday.
It makes the crowd
even madder.
But then,
one of the podcasts I was listening to
they basically said that he acted the dictator
but he couldn't follow it through
because he was only kind of like a half dictator
so a proper dictator
probably would have just kept putting his foot down on protesters
but then him
I don't know being insecure having a whole kind of
daddy complex probably couldn't deal with this lack of love
well he'd be like well stop them
don't shoot them fuck I'm going holiday
bye that's what happens
it all came to head in about four months
and a lot of it was that
it just seemed like a complete political meltdown
He just fucking lost his lip.
People keep processing and he goes, stop them.
But he hasn't given them tear gas.
So they just shoot people.
He goes, don't shoot people.
And they go, well, what else do you want us to do?
And then he goes, I've booked a holiday.
And they go, what?
And he goes, see it.
And then in August 78, there's a massive fire, which is actually in a cinema in
Abidon, which is the oil place.
It's a horrendous fire, actually.
It's an Islamist terrorist attack.
Yeah.
They burn the cinema down.
But the Shah gets blamed and Hermani gets, like,
credit for being the opposition, even though the people who do it are much closer
to Khomey than the Ardashar.
Biggest terrorist attack was the biggest, the most deadly terrorist attack until 9-11.
No.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
It was the...
Wow.
Yeah.
Because so many people die.
Normally people get out, but they were locked in.
And, yeah, the fact that it got blamed on him and it was complete opposite people.
Yeah.
What were they showing?
You need a spin, you need Alsa Campbell in there.
Who's your spin doctor?
I mean, the Shah really need Alistair Campbell.
Look at that.
You've been spanned.
Terribly.
What film was playing, Charlie?
Yeah, it depends which film is playing, to be fair.
Because it might have been so bad that they just went,
do you know what?
Like the door set fire to all of us.
What they did?
But what's the,
with a lot of like the Islamic terrorists,
but a lot of the point you're making here?
It was Asian Miltz four.
Oh right, fair enough.
Right, fair enough.
Four men allegedly barred the doors to the cinema,
doused it with petrol and started the fire.
Now, what are you doing that for?
Fucking hell.
At least 377.
But, yeah.
Others' theories suggest the fire was a false.
flag operation where one group set the fire to frame another group, but I think Islamists
claimed credit for it, but it doesn't really matter because the Shah gets all the, he gets
all the heat. Crazy. So basically there's just, in 78, there's, in the, in the September
onwards, there's just people on the streets a lot. And every time the Shah tries to stop it,
people get shot. And so there's just, it's proper, like, end of days tyranny. Now, this is a really
funny bit. In December, he goes on the news and he goes, right, I've heard you. I know your
demands for revolution and I think I should be the one to lead the revolution. And everyone
listening goes, oh what, this is a revolution? Oh, no one's called it that yet? Great. Let's
fucking bin you off. So he's the first one to call it revolution. So he completely fucks it.
Revolutions, they're always hallmarked by the person in charge at multiple moments,
completely fucking it.
there's always turning points
that they just choose the wrong
choose your own adventure
the wrong one every time
no not that one you fucked it
do I shoot everyone
or do I give into demands
I shot everyone
brilliant fuck
so basically he's motivated
because there was all these strikes
and protests and they paralys the country
and nothing's working blah blah blah
he goes up says I'm going to lead the revolution
everyone goes oh it's revolution fuck you then
and in January
so bear in mind that the like the fire
was in August
And in, what's that?
September, October, November, four months,
the Shah's completely fucked it.
He's gone, he's also got cancer, but he's not telling anyone.
So he's, and he's feeling a bit sad.
Yeah.
Because his treatment makes him sad.
Yeah.
Should make him happy.
What?
The treatment.
Happier.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I'd be like, cheer up.
You're getting treated for it.
Anyway.
Smiles free, love.
Yeah, come on.
Cheer up.
Might never happen.
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Anyway, so I think it's the 10th of January.
He goes, I haven't been on holiday for three weeks.
I'm going to book another one.
I mean, look, to be fair, he's got principles.
He will not stay in his own country.
Now, where does he go first?
Does he not go to New York?
No, that's later.
That's later.
He goes to maybe Turkey, Paris, maybe.
He's got some dicks that are still unsucked in Switzerland.
Right, right, right.
The trial traveled to Egypt, Morocco, the Bahamas and Mexico.
So that's where it goes.
Right, fair enough.
He goes, you know what, I've never been out.
Bahamas.
Yeah.
That's a, that's a pretty sick.
He's like, fuck it.
I'm going to snorkeling.
That goes to Bahamas.
At least go to like a cold country on a cultural trip.
Now,
like fucking lounging.
There is quite a funny possible reinterpretation of the Iranian Revolution where it turns
out you could argue that the Shah has pre-booked several holidays.
Right.
And this is from like the 50s onwards.
Yeah.
He's pre-booked 30 years of holidays.
And it's just always at the time.
the wrong time.
What are we going to do?
You're not going to let that money go to waste.
I've got a great deal on the 50s on holidays.
Someone said you can have a round the world ticket
if you take 30 years to go over these places.
So anyway, so he fucks off to the Bahamas,
does some snorkeling and there's a vacuum
and he thinks he's coming back as well.
And then Kameney is called for by the people.
They're lifting up the face, Mr. Grumpikins.
Please come back.
And the Shah has erected this massive monument
as well, the Shah's monument,
which is meant to be the symbol of modernity.
And people are congregating around.
there like throwing shit at it and they're lifting
photos of grumpikins
and all the West, the West are like
this is just, they're just better his.
But him going on the news saying
I've heard you, I'm kind of like I'm
sorry. Yeah. Just that weakness
just makes it immediately real
and he's lost to all authority. He's fucked it.
Yeah. So then Hameini
everyone calls him to come back.
So him walking down off the plane
we'll show footage of that. That's
the big moment. And he is asked by
journalist as he's flying in. You know, he's been
bear in mind he's not been in a run since 64.
So what's that?
He's been keeping it 16 years, something like that.
And he's been keeping it pretty tight-lipped and grumpy.
He's been having to watch Mr. Bean for 15 years,
and he's not laughed once.
That's how grumpy is.
And a journalist asks him, how do you feel?
And he says, I feel nothing.
Because he...
I believe him.
He's still trying to finish this book.
He's not laughed once.
He's bored.
Yeah, he's bored.
Someone should make a montage of him
sat by myself with that song
Everybody's talking at me
I don't hear what I'm saying
Only the echoes of my mind
I won't let you leave
Because he's just always sad
On his own, isn't he?
Anyway, so he comes back
And people go fucking ape shit
Because as we say
There are middle class,
Marxists, moderates, liberals
They're thinking brilliant
We're finally going to have political rights
they're going to get rid of the secret police
they're going to have whatever police force
comes next I reckon it'll be better
I reckon it can't be worse
it can't be worse
Iran can't get worse
the only way is up
yeah
things can only get better
yeah it's like Blair
if it's like Blair gets elected
997 second of May 97
he starts war in Iraq
right it's like that
that's what this happens here
he just fast tracks to the ship bit
yeah yeah so he does all you know
shaking hands he's getting photos
with babies all that shit he's signing women's tears
saying you're burning hell
I don't want to see these you're burning hell
put them away love put it away love that's what it's
that's his thing to put it away love
sign the Iotola and he
now he holds a
because his whole thing which we didn't talk about
is um
you're right
yeah sorry you just got bored there
and you start poking it's like
his whole thing
look it's a big
it's a big record
it's a big topic
a lot's going on
sorry I could beat you stim there
that's all right
ratio just started
it was like
you know when monkeys
pick bugs
you just started picking hairs
off the microphone
well I just noticed
the flatness
at the top of this microphone
and I just really want
to put my palm on there
and then you put me
right back to reality
you want to look at Google Maps
for a bit
shut out
can you put
subway surfer on just so on the second screen we just have some satisfying videos please
that japanese woman shoving bread in her face put that on um so hermany comes back and he uh his
whole thing right his whole thing that he's been working on in exile is apart from reading the book
is he's been talking about um our council of like jurists or something like his whole vibe is
that islamic government should be about guiding people protecting people protect
the religion like people can't be trusted to implement it themselves it's a very top
down like paternalistic the jurist yeah the jurist of Islam yeah um he wouldn't be happy
with how you're sitting currently well you have to what straight back I'm the I
toller of this podcast Charlie's first against the wall all his sexual proclivities
the I atollah would fucking hate you the I at Charlie of all three of us I reckon I'm
I reckon I've got the longest with them.
I think he wouldn't mind, yeah.
You're showing too much shin.
Charlie says, how are you doing, mate?
I've just come from a rimming or whatever.
And he's like, right, well, you're in the bin.
I reckon I can maybe chat five minutes with them before it gets a bit free.
Anyway, there's a referendum, right?
Do you want an Islamic Republic?
And what I think people in Iran do is they think, republic?
Great.
President, get rid of the king.
People, democracy.
Brilliant.
Let's have that.
And then they don't realize that he said Islamic.
No, I don't think that's actually,
I think it's,
because the actual thing on the referendum
was either the monarchy,
what we had before,
the guy we just binned off that massive pussy.
Yeah.
Or do you want a government that upholds Islamic principles?
Right.
So it's a super vague.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess that I love that one, man.
Yeah, let's go for that.
And if, listen, you can,
you can say,
Sike!
You can say many things about,
uh,
idol for many but what you
cannot deny is that his government is
upholding Islamic principles
to the lesser
what happens if I'm gay
death penalty
off a building bye bye night night
what happens if I'm a woman
I want to get my hair out in the bin
you're going in the bin you're going in the big bit
of a ram with all the gays and the women
with the long hair something we didn't mention in any
episodes but was a key part as well
was the Shah was
recognised the state of Israel so
is a huge part of it as well.
Yeah, Shah, because obviously
he's being funded by America,
so Shah goes,
I like,
I just love the term,
recognize.
Like, oh, it's you.
Yeah, whereas,
it's like,
oh, Israel,
it's Israel, right?
And then,
but everyone else in the around's like,
yeah,
well, it's just like,
when you're having a falling out
with a friend
and they're ignoring you,
their purpose of not making eye contact with you.
Yeah.
Anyway, Kermani,
he then institutes an Islamic Republic
after the referendum gets like 98%.
Yeah.
Yeah, no,
killed it.
Yeah, he's nailed it.
absolutely smashed it.
Nothing's suspicious about a 98% win.
But again, the referendum was essentially,
do you want the smelly pussy back?
Or do you want...
Like a vaguely...
Vaguidly good.
Probably maybe...
Probably better.
Who knows?
Let's give it a go.
And then they start quite similar to the culture revolution,
quite similar to the French revolution.
There's sort of these quite like student-led bodies, right?
Well, yeah.
So it's then kind of all the gloves are off.
So he forms a revolutionary guard.
And it's interesting that it's a revolutionary guard
rather than a Republican guard.
Like it's to protect the revolution
rather than the republic.
Even though I heard someone on a podcast saying
that you could argue that he was a counter-revolutionary,
that it was actually a counter-revolution.
That's what they say.
Right.
Because they, the Iran, in Iran's head, right,
1979 plays 1953.
Right.
So from their perspective, it's one or all.
Right, right, right.
Because they think the Americans in the West,
I mean, they call America Great Satan
and Britain Little Satan, which I'm
very happy with.
I think, I mean, we'll take Little Satan.
We'll take Little Satan.
We've been called worse.
So in their head, they still go on about 53.
Right.
They won't let it go.
Whereas we're like, fucking get over it, mate.
Yeah.
Come on.
Come on.
You've done some fucked up shit as well.
Yeah.
We didn't build the fucking prisons for you.
That was the Nazis.
Anyway.
We all have a coloured history.
Let he without sin
cast the first stone or whatever that is.
And then you get stone to death.
And then, yeah.
Oh, we've all sucked a dick, mate.
You know.
He has not sucked a dick, Carl's the first.
People in glass out and can't be throwing those stones.
No, you're getting stone to death, mate.
You're getting stone to death.
So, he forms of a revolutionary guard.
I think the Shah had, the other thing the Shah had done is that Jimmy Carter had come into power.
Not Jimmy Carr.
Sorry, I thought you about to say Jimmy Carr.
No.
That would be real left field if he came into this story.
Jimmy Carr starts doing, he starts to workshopping some of his jokes in,
early
They hate him over there.
They really don't like it.
All is they, you know,
say what you're on about free speech,
but it is contextual.
Red has that amazing joke
about the Saudi Arabian
Jimmy Car just being someone
who says nice things about women.
And all the people in Saudi Arabia
is like,
I can't wait to see
what kind of fucked up shit
is you're going to say tonight?
So good.
They should vote.
Fucking out.
This guy.
That's dark.
This guy's going to get cancelled.
He says it.
He fucking says it.
He didn't give a fuck this guy
Jimmy Carter has come to power
in America in I think 78 maybe
No 77
After Gerald Ford who came in after Nixon
So he's coming on a whole like
Anti-Corruption Human Rights ticket
Maybe the most liberal
President of all time
The weirdest president has ever been
Yeah
Quite an odd bloke as well
He was a peanut farmer
Yeah
He came from a background
on a peanut farming.
Penophile.
A peanut file.
Peanut file.
Yeah, yeah.
Apparently.
Kentucky or Alabama, I think?
Apparently he was like, his main problem because I was listening to a podcast about all
the presidents and it was, in general there's lots of people who aren't across the detail.
Like Trump's not across detail of policy, right?
Yeah.
And that can be too far one way.
But he was too far the other way.
He was across everything.
Even so much so, he was booking the White House tennis courts.
So he handled the bookings on that.
Oh, wow.
You don't need to be doing that, man.
So he's like, he's doing...
There's got to be someone who's job that is.
He's making sure all the lights are off
to save energy.
Like, seriously.
At the end of the night, right?
Is everyone switched the lights off?
Come on.
You're president, Jimmy.
Jimmy, this delegate.
Right.
I have a lot of time for Jimmy.
I'd love to do an episode on just Jimmy Carter.
So also, Jimmy Carter lived so long, right?
Yeah, he only just died.
Because I saw this TikTok.
Maybe it's a TikTok.
Jimmy Carter enjoys his 99th birthday, right?
And I think the word...
Celebrate his 99th birthday.
I think the word celebrate is maybe a strong,
strong use for it.
You've never seen an older man in your life.
It's fucking, like a sneeze will kill him.
Just show me on your phone.
Oh my God.
That's his 100th birthday.
100th birthday, isn't it?
So if you're listening, there's a flyover for Jimmy Carter
and he is basically propped up in a bed with his mouth open.
swallowing flies
just looking at planes
but are his eyes open
I mean he's a wax work
he's a fucking wax work
I mean
I just think if I get to that point
just fucking pin me
just put me a bulletin me
What do you mean celebrates?
Well by celebrating
they mean put into daylight
Happy birthday Jim
fucking hell
that's sad
God
that's more depressing than any of this
It's amazing that he's held on so long
Yeah
so so jimmy carter has come in and his whole thing is human rights ethical foreign policy
because of the whole nixon thing and because it's post vietnam so when the shah sorry this is
70s america so even like in the films of 70s america it's confusion is anxiety paranoia
yeah there's an identity crisis of america so jimmy carter's kind of result of that where it's
like we don't know where we stand we want a wholesome we want someone who's good we want to be good
And the Shah is obviously
imprisoning people, killing dissidents.
So Jimmy Carter, who's funding the Shah,
is leaning on and saying, hey, man,
can you fucking help me out?
I'll give you some peanuts if you stop getting people.
And it's like, hey, hey, boy.
Do you know what it's like?
It's like the guy from family guy.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Do you want some peanuts?
Anyway, so the whole point is that the Shah,
he starts to release prisoners.
So he releases people who hate him
into the streets.
And it's basically, in the same.
space of like two years he starts fast-tracking trying to as a panic give iranians political
freedoms that they've never had even since yeah like the you know since the beginning we start
the series they've never had political freedom at all it's been one party state the last four years and he goes
oh shit okay sorry and just tries to give them everything yeah which then immediately means
they're all out in the street and when homani comes in he's like uh he then just starts killing them all
yeah he just goes we uh he just kill he just kills everyone that the shah released from prison
Oh, right.
He's like,
you can all fucking get in the bin.
He just,
he just starts,
this is where they start doing like death squads.
They're going around and this is,
and at this point,
like all the Marxists and stuff,
they're like,
yeah,
you know,
obviously it's a revolution man.
It's going to get a bit groovy for a bit.
Off with your head.
Yeah,
yeah.
Look,
we've all sucked a bit of dicks around here.
Bang.
Dead.
Yeah.
And there's this,
you know,
they're trying to tell themselves.
They're like,
oh,
it's all right.
It's a revolution.
You know, it's all going to get a bit grisly
But it will stop
It still hasn't stopped
Right
We're in 2025, it's still not stopped
And it's interesting with Jimmy Carter as well
They're kind of like
I don't know
Being the liberal ethical guy
Shows the limitations of
Kind of liberal foreign policy
But when you're dealing
How good your good intentions are
When you're dealing with these sort of things
You cannot just have a soft hand
When you're on the phone to Dr. Grumpy come
Or whatever his name is grumpy kids
You might have to
You just diplomacy
You have to compromise on some of your
You've got to be him halfway.
Yeah.
Or you meet him none of the way, which I think is what Grumpykins famously.
You don't really meet him half way.
He's not really a halfway kind of guy, Grumpikins.
What about a burqa just to the, just to below the tits?
Off with your head.
Off of your head.
Get your head off.
So Ayatollah starts getting the death squads around shooting people.
And as you say, students who are, you know, it's still not fully settled into the Islamic Republic proper yet.
There's still this kind of post-revolution craziness in 1979, people running around.
people running around
you know
women are still
you know
they've got their tits out
that's about to end
yeah
tits are about to go
go away for a long time
yeah they're being put
for a long time love
the tits have been put
into deep storage
the tits have been found
in a car park
and by TikTok non-sky
you're going away for a long time
love and you
I didn't know I swear
who you're here to meet you two
you go home
you'll be banged up for a long time
so
then what happens
is the American Embassy
in Tehran
of which there are
I don't know
hundreds of people
working there
is a huge
it's a huge embassy
obviously
because America has
a lot of influence
in the region
Well America's been
bankrolling
Exactly
But it's like
Even in quite
like poor areas
You can see
this giant compound
It's like a huge
symbol of
And at all the times
There are people on the street
With a photo
Dr. Grumpikins
And none of the shouting
Death to the West
They love getting together
and shouting
They hate the West
Because the whole thing
is finally
We're taking back
our country
by the people for the people
too much Western influence
what is that black stuff can someone please tell us
what's that what is it
is it Guinness I don't even know what that is either
am we allowed to drink it I don't know what it is
the conjuring last rites
on September 5th
I think I'm not here with you
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Is this at the beginning of the angry Middle Eastern mob
Because now, growing up, just BBC News
Is this endless
Angry Middle Eastern mob
It's endless videos from all over the Middle East
Just live it
Firing out
Just different people in it
This is kind of the start of that sort of stuff, I reckon.
Well, no, because
There's been like revolution.
I guess it's televised.
The fact is that this is televised.
Yeah.
And people are charging around in flares.
Yeah.
Anyway.
So there's a mob outside the American embassy.
And this is in 1979.
There's this group of militant students and Khmerini followers.
But like a lot of revolutions, French revolution,
cultural revolution, capturing the youth, capturing the student body.
Basically, you build your own revolution.
And then really passionate, unemployed students.
get together and they become their own militant groups
having a scary amount of power
in the sort of confusion of the revolution
happened quite regularly
and this is what happened here.
They storm the embassy
and this is the beginning
if it's film Argo if everyone's seen that
where they're inside being like
fuck it burn everything, burn everything
and so they take 52
American diplomats and citizens
hostage well actually they take
more than that hostage they take about
I think it's nearly 70 hostage
but so Hermione here's
about this and again like you say he didn't plan this but he backs it he backs it
happens in his name yeah and he backs it but and this is one of the great sikes of all
time he goes 70 American hostages okay release the black ones did a David Brent move
my favorite my favorite film actors Sydney Poitier yeah some of my best hostages are
black.
And he just lets them all the black ones go.
It's a great move.
It's the, it's, it's, fuck you the west.
Oh, this guy's woke actually, it turns out.
He's got blue air under that turban.
Grumpy Kins, we underestimate with you.
He lets all the black ones go.
That's such a good move.
It's such a good move.
Do you know what?
I don't know how long we're going to do this podcast for, but I'm just going to say now,
that's up there with a.
best moves. That's a great move. That's, I think so
far, all the things we've covered, that's...
Well, what he's best at is he, he bides
his time, and then he just pounces at the
right moment, you know?
He doesn't fuck out. The black people are
oppressed in America, so we're going to let you go free.
To make it seem like a social justice.
And to the leftist in America, this is, they're
loving this up. They're like this guy.
Who is this Gandhi-esque?
Yeah. Who's this Che Guevara, this Jesus,
you know?
We haven't talked about the Mahadi,
have we? We should probably talk about that.
Yeah.
Because part of the, part of Hemeni's appeal, which I should have said in the last episode,
is that, well, in the book of Revelation, there's this idea of a white horse.
Yes.
And the Messiah returning.
And in Islam, that's called the Mahadi.
Yeah.
And so, yes.
Yes.
Please don't come my head off.
Yes.
It's a messiahic, mass ionic figure believed to appear in the days before judgment day in the end of the world.
But there's also similar myths in Zoroathstriism, Zoroth, whatever it's called,
Zoro the Persian religion
They have a lot of
Apocalyptic myths that also feed into this
That he simply, you know
And I just remember this is an interesting fact
If that's going back in a timeline
Just before the Shah leaves
Yeah
He changes the calendar
From the Islamic one
To like a Persian one
Right
So overnight, this is how mental this is
Overnight the year changes
From like 16 something
To 2535
Wait so both are not the Western calendar
No he goes to we're actually taking the date from the person calendar
So a millennia fast forwards overnight in their head
How mental would that be if you're just alive
And you're like oh it's 2025 and someone goes
Actually it's 3,000 you'd be like what the fuck?
What the fuck?
We don't have flying cars yet
What do you mean it's 3,025?
So Hermione
So the students rush in
They take the people hostages
Homanie releases the black one switches
is one of the best moves
we've ever seen.
He's a virtue signaler.
He's a virtue signal.
Now, Carter is, this is huge news in America.
One of the first kind of televised
hostage situations.
Yeah.
So there are 50 American diplomats
and they are,
so Jimmy Carter,
the first thing he does is,
I'll trade you some peanuts for those hostages.
And it's like, Jimmy,
this isn't how it works.
Get off the farm, man.
You're dealing with the grumpiest cunt
that's ever been.
And he's like, okay, I'll salt them.
Redi salted.
Dry roasted.
Dry roasted.
Honey roasted.
Do you want some like knobby's nuts?
What the fuck you want?
I got loads of peanuts, man.
I'm trying to get rid of these peanuts.
I can't go off.
Yeah.
Do you want to swap some peanuts?
I can't sell these fucking peanuts for love nor money.
Do you want to swap oil for peanuts maybe?
Do you have any peanuts in it wrong?
So he,
so he condemns the attack, right?
And immediately calls the safe release of hostages.
But bear in mind, they're not to skip forward.
And then the Ithollah says,
fair enough and release them safely.
Yeah.
After Jimmy Carter.
after Jimmy Carter condemns it
and asks for them he goes
Fair enough you've made your point well
So bear in mind that so the hostages will
This crisis will go on for over a year
It's 400, 40 days
What the entire time this is happening
Jimmy Carter keeps the Iranian embassy open in the US
Which is like the weakest
He's the cuckest president
He's the cuck president
He's the cuck president
He's watching Bill Clinton
Giz and Monica Lewinsky's dress
And he's jacking off on it
That's why he's in his chair
like that
watching Bill Clinton
fucking intern
Jimmy Carter
celebrates Bill Clinton
impeachment
so the hostages
they're not
they're not having a good time in there
I think it's pretty
rubbish time
and obviously you've seen the film
Argo because it'll happen so quickly
they didn't have time to probably destroy a lot
the censored documents they just ran through
like a striper
obviously they've got all the documents about
like 53 in there right they've got
They'll probably have loads of Iranian sleeper cells.
They'll have American CIA agents.
Yeah, assets in another country.
And then they carefully, piece by piece,
the regime gets like just children to slowly repiece it on like a clipboard.
All the hostages were threatened repeatedly with execution.
They played Russian roulette with some of the hostages.
Kept in handcuffs the first two weeks.
There's a guy who's kept in solitary confinement for several months
on two occasions when he expressed his opinion of Ayatollah Khomey,
he was severely punished.
Fuck.
The second time he was beaten
and kept a load
in the freezing cell
for two weeks.
It's all pretty bad stuff.
And Jimmy Carter,
every few months
is going on the news
going, okay,
don't worry,
I'm sure we can find
an amount of peanuts
that will lead to their release.
Well, this is interesting.
One of the Osgers
did a hunger strike.
Yeah, if you're a hostage.
Are you being fed that much anyway?
Yeah, I don't really know what...
Well, yeah, we're threatening to kill you, lad.
I will not eat another peanut until I'm...
All right.
Well, I'm playing
Russian roulette with you,
lads.
One of the hostages
described threats
to boil their feet
in oil.
Cut their eyes out.
Kidnap and Kill a disabled
son in America.
Fuck it out.
He starts sending a piece of him
to your wife.
Fucking.
Hell,
that sounds like Rachel Reeves.
Not to get all
have I got news for you on this.
I like Michael Reeves.
One of the hostage
got sent home
because he had MS.
Fair enough.
Well, look, they're woke.
Yeah.
They are.
They are.
You're feeling it.
black disabled you can go home yeah if you get a blue badge you can go home
i've got eme you're staying you're staying
the guards often withheld male well that's not the worst
i think if they're cutting up the disabled sign i'm not sure if they're pointing your feet
in oil i think the uh i don't see anything for you mr scott are you sure your wife has
not found another man christ christ oh it's pretty funny yeah so but so what carter does um
this is fucking hilarious so at some point
Carter goes right it's been
it's been six months
they don't seem to be taking my peanut
office seriously
I'm going to send the boys in
yeah so he's the politest president as well
yeah he is very politely ethical foreign policy
post-watergate so
in April 1980 so six months
after the hostage crisis
the Carter launches an operation called
Operation Eagle Claw.
And this is an ambitious, completely illegal.
Right.
In terms of like, you know, if this fails, they cause a war, right?
They're going to send some helicopters, special forces helicopters into the desert.
They're then going to refuel and then they're going to fly in one go from there to Tehran.
They're going to get in the, and they're just going to extract them from.
They're going to basically, like the London embassy series, they're going to do that, but in Iran,
in it,
get them
back to the desert,
getting them back
out on planes,
right?
Jobs are good.
Jobs are gooden.
They miscalculate
how far,
long the desert is.
It turns out Iran's massive.
Yeah.
And they get there
and they go,
oh, fuck it out.
So they land...
Which I thought I could have said that.
Just go on Google Maps.
They didn't have Google Maps.
No, they didn't have...
This is before Google Maps.
Right.
So they land basically on a road,
right,
in the middle of nowhere,
and a couple of trucks
come towards them.
And they're like,
well,
we're meant to not be spotted.
here. So they shoot the trucks, right? First one stops. The second one, they go, they fire an
anti-tank weapon at it, like a rocket launcher. And as they fire it, they go, oh, is that, is that a
massive fuel? That's a fuel tanker, isn't it? So basically their secret operation has just set
fire to an oil tanker in the middle of the desert. And the Iranians are like, that's not
bit unusual. What's going on over there? So they then, there's then a dust cloud, which means they can't
take off properly.
So they then...
They tried taking off
and helicopters
crash and to each other.
Because the dust cloud.
Yeah.
And they hit each other.
Both helicopters
explode.
And then...
About six US service
when die or something like that.
And then Iranians,
there's lots of pictures posted
of Iranian like gloating with chard
the charred corpses.
Which is a terrible look,
I think.
But it's also something that they will do
in their Iraq war.
That's part of the Middle Eastern
anti-American.
They will always pose
with the charred corpse of an American.
They love it.
They love it.
We're wearing a t-shirt saying,
I'm with stupid.
Oh, it's really nice not being burned live.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Peace on behind their head.
They'll have like a T-shirts and like Texas barbecue and they'll be like, he's from Texas.
So, um, yeah, basically a few people get home, but it's this operation.
Obviously, you've got to imagine that this, the hostage situation is on the news like every
fucking night, all night.
Fox News isn't really a thing, but like, you know.
What's the reason for them taking the American, the hospital?
what they're hoping to gain from it oh fuck we didn't even say oh christ i know right sorry it's
been a long it's been a long series the in november um the shah uh his cancer gets um
diagnosed as terminal right he needs specific treatment so he asks um um the u s if he can go to
new york they let him in and as soon as the pictures of him arrive in new york go back that's
when the students attack the embassy right so it's because they've there the shah is in new york
being treated by the Americans
which optics-wise is just really bad
because everyone hates the Shah of the American Empress
so they storm the embassy
and anyway so
But what is the
When you have a hostage you have demands
What are their demands?
They don't fucking give a shit
But what are they taking the hostage for then?
Peanuts.
Burned off
So Carter then basically
loses the presidency
essentially
because he's no one's ever looked weaker
because he tried a special operation.
It's like, you know, when they got bin Laden
and Obama strides forwards and goes,
ladies gentlemen, we got it.
Jimmy Carter goes,
uh, ladies gentlemen, we fucked it.
They, uh, yeah, both the helicopters crashed.
We blew up an oil tankered and, uh,
six Americans are dead.
We fucked it.
You're just hoping when you're president
that your special forces get some big scalps
so you can come out and say, yeah, I did it.
He died like a dog.
You want that way.
You want the head of ISIS.
Yeah, Trump gets out and just starts.
Trump gets it.
If Obama got Bin Laden, that's still the big fish.
Terrible dog.
He died like a dag.
Yeah.
Carter basically kills his own boys,
loses two helicopters.
And that's why they elects 80s,
very different decade.
Strong man.
America's strong again.
Action films.
Forget about taxi driver
introspective new wave cinema.
Now it's fucking Schwarzenegger.
It's Stallone.
We're back.
Baby.
Yeah.
Big musty guys.
Reagan used to be an actor coming in
So within
So they
Within 15 minutes
Yeah
Of Reagan's inauguration
Kameney releases all the hostages
Because
Fuck Carter
Fair enough
Fuck Carter
Just because it's funny
Because the guys
You know
I mean he's Mr Grumpikins
But he's pretty funny
Yeah I guess that's a good bit
So after 440 days
Literally as Reagan
swears in the Bible
He goes yeah you can all go now
and they go home
I guess it's because of his
yeah a lot of his
problems probably were
with Carter's
dealings with Iran
yeah so once they've got Carter out
he feels like he's meddled
enough of America
that he can get them back
but this is this is why America
in Iran fucking hate each other
now is this hostage crisis
essentially
yeah is because they
America still haven't got over it
yeah and Iran still haven't got over 53
right and both countries
very long memories
famously yeah
so I think that probably
takes us to the end of our
Iran series.
Omega.
To sum this up
in a word
in a sort of sentence.
A sentence.
I'd say
the history of Iran
from 1907
to present day
is sort of like
the career of Mia Khalifa.
Gone.
In that originally
she's sucking everyone
off, getting fucked in every
hole.
At some point she goes,
you know what,
I'm autistic
and I'm a business woman now.
I'd like to be taken seriously.
Are you saying
Mia Khalifers is in her
a toddler period?
Yes.
Ayatollah era?
Yes.
Yeah, I am.
I am saying that.
Ayatollah Khalifa.
Ayatollah Kameefa.
Yeah.
Mrs.
Grumpikins.
Give her a full name.
That's,
I think that's where we are.
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Death to the West.
Death to the West.
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And goodbye, Akbar.
Goodbye, Akbar.
Thank you.