Fin vs History - Please Don’t Cut Our Heads Off | The Iranian Revolution, 1979 (2/3)
Episode Date: April 17, 2025The Ayatollah still hasn’t finished his book, and Mohammad Reza Shah spends the GDP of a small country on a primary school nativity play The show for people who like history but don't care what act...ually happened. For weekly bonus episodes, ad-free listening and early access to series, become a Truther and sign up to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/fintaylor?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome back to Finn versus History.
I'm here, as ever, with Horatio Gould.
And guns are going off.
It's Iran in the mid-20th century.
This is part two of our series on the Islamic Revolution.
I see a lot of sense in it.
I think I think the you're frequently being called out in the comments for showing too much
shit and I think uh for Christ's sake's pull your socks up what is the issue with your socks
yeah well I've finally got some new socks uh I've got eight pairs of different colors because the
I've listened to the comments there's been protests about uh that how uncolourful and short my socks
are yeah but I have listened and in um I can still see shin on your other leg that's disgusting
right in honor of the Ayatollah's Islamic revolution
I am...
Dr. Grumpikins.
I am covering up my...
Thank you.
Thank you.
I think we actually need
Finn v. History
branded suspenders for you.
Well, I've been wanting
Finn v. History branded socks
for a long time.
So to get us back up to speed,
this is part two
in our Islamic Revolution series.
We left off last episode
with CIA and MI6
backed coup in 1953.
Mohammed Reza Shah,
little twinky little boy.
He's now in charge
of Iraq.
Iran and the prime minister...
He moisturises his hands.
He moisturises his hands.
What is disgusting...
Lavender smelling, you know.
He loves it.
He wears women's perfume.
Yeah.
He speaks three languages.
Yeah.
He's gay.
He's a twink.
He's in charge of Iran.
The Prime Minister's all but a puppet.
Yes.
And we are...
Ironically, a puppet that was helped put in by Kermit Roosevelt.
Yeah, it's very ironic, actually.
The puppeteer...
It was called Kermit, weirdly, rather than Jim Hansen.
It's the other way around here.
And so we're in 1950s, Iran.
Where are we in the world?
What's happening in this time?
All right.
So this is after the invention of the cricket ball.
Cricket is famously alive and well at this point.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's before the invention of swing ball.
Is it?
50s.
When swing ball?
invented.
It was a bold one.
Swingball is invented in
1967 in South Africa
from this, fuck,
hang on, so swing ball's
apartheid.
It's an apartheid invention.
Swingball whites only.
It's born invented a no.
From this day,
family barbecues
would never be the same again.
Well, it depends what turns out of
who's in your family.
So this is invented by
white people enjoying apartheid.
Well, no, hang on.
It could be either.
It could be like a sort of
almost like a rebellion sport.
This feels very white
to be swing ball.
I put a ball on that string ball.
ticket to the part of the rut it's got it feels very protestant uh colonialist i don't need anyone
to play with me i don't need friends i'll keep myself into dined yeah it feels actually like
south african anger management is what it feels like yeah fuck swingball is apartheid is it wow
who would have thought who would have thought the things you learn on this podcast people commenting
people saying they like nothing that's a load of bollocks what fuck you on about you've learned that
we have to if we're the only podcast covering
swing balls link to apartheist Africa.
No one else is saying it.
Everyone's going around about the fruit or whatever.
Queen are playing.
Don't call the Shah a fruit.
The Shara is a fruit and Ayatollah is a juicer.
It's a blender.
Well, he's just sort of steamed veg, isn't he?
Oh yeah.
The Ayatollah is over-cooked steamed broccoli.
And the shah's a big, juicy peach.
Yeah.
You've got to eat the Shara over the sink.
Shah Mohammed Reza
Pahlavi.
Yeah, what is his
he's got a mixed
career in power
because it's not all bad,
it's not all good.
He loves going on holiday.
He loves going on holiday.
When the going gets tough,
he fucks off.
It's true.
He's very soft,
but he also does bring around
some actually quite good
progressive policies.
More controversially
is his land reforms.
He re-dributes land
from basically trying to get out
of the feudal system.
slow down with you're always going
you're going straight to land reforms
you're obsessed with land reforms I'm obsessed with land reforms
I want to play swing ball on a new left
fuck swing ball is white
that's crazy
look at that so
do not touch my land
if you
that is my swing ball territory
it actually sounds like
it almost sounds like some kind of punishment
for black slaves
like they'd have to get in rate
they'd have to tie their hands by in their back
get on the other side of the swing ball
and the white guy were trying to hit them.
So we left off in the 50s
and with all soft hands
is now in power.
And the first thing he does
in this timeline,
really we should talk about
is he establishes the secret police.
You're right, yes.
1957, they're called Savac.
There is actually a...
Savac.
There is actually a kebab shop
on my road called Savac.
Really?
Which is now it's tainted somewhat.
My friend.
Please, my friend.
Secret, please.
Please?
In delegation.
No, no.
Not for you?
anybody next please anybody next anybody next no salad and sauce um sabak is a brutal they've got quite a nice logo though actually if we're looking at um
we love graphic design of brutal regimes that's pretty good that's pretty good it's not you know it's not um it's a illusion to a persian heritage that's very nice now that's a now hang on what's going on there because there's a griffindore yeah it's a trans griffin with like an assyrian beard
but then if you look at persopolis they've got those fuckers yeah i was going to talk about that it's very funny right so
Savak is a state security police
that now the Shah has a sort of puppet
If you're running a state in the Middle East
You got to have a secret police
Get Savak
You got a first move
You got to get a Gestapo
You need it
You need it
You need it
The people
The suites need to be in the top cupboards
Yeah
And if everyone anyone get
If they get a step and they get to it
You need to have come down hard
Yeah yeah
So this is in the 50s
And as you were saying
that the Shah does a lot of good things
but at all point
I guess from a very Western perspective though
there's all the things that we
we like
yeah we don't we don't like
Dr. Grumpikins so I guess we've got to
state art claim I guess we're somewhat biased
in that we think Dr. Grumpikins is bad
yes exactly I
I like seeing women's hair
yeah exactly not as a weird thing
I don't notice it
yeah I'm neutral on women's hair
so you don't have a hair fetish
no you probably would
if if I
I was Iranian, I would crumble
at the sight of a woman's hair.
So you probably would have a hair fetter.
But I don't think you should
have one. Yeah. But that's very
Western Cetric, you know? Is that why people have a foot
fetish because they're always... Covered up. Like if we were
all in open toes, like
sandals, then... Do you think it's seasonal?
So back in the Greek times, you know,
the sandals era... Oh, they've got other stuff to do about then.
But I'm just saying like that the
sandal era, I think people were not as fast
with feet, but because of the kind of
an Ayatollah-esque regime we forced on our feet,
which is the proliferation of shoes.
You're saying the Ayatollahs behind the proliferation of shoes.
Well, I'm just saying that it's not far off.
I wonder if foot fetishes are seasonal.
Yeah.
In the winter, because people are being denied feet,
because of the weather, they get hornier for them.
Right.
Whereas in the summer, you walk outside, there's feet everywhere.
There is nothing.
So I think maybe it's a season,
foot fetishes kick off more in the winter.
it's a winter sport
yeah
anyway
basically in the late 50s
this is all about
growth
modernization
oil
powered by oil
the Shah essentially
becomes a benevolent dictator
right
and at all points
he's like look at the economy
it's booming
the women
I mean there's footage of Iran
before 79
the 60s
yes women have got their cans out
it looks fucking great
but it's like
California.
Yeah,
it's like California in the 16th.
Yeah.
There's a song called like Iran,
Republic of Iran.
Everybody was surfing.
Yeah.
Surfing.
Yeah.
Tehran in the 60s is fucking swinging because also it's on the hippie trail, right?
And Kameney's just.
He's Komeni.
He's living.
We haven't talked,
we haven't introduced him,
but he is sort of on the sidelines,
just sort of,
just imagine for this whole period.
He's just.
He's in the city.
called come which is quite funny oh com com which i think is a religious city my friend combe
he's in a um we should introduce to the art i'll do that in the second but this is footage of
tehran so tehran is basically like it's on the hippie trail which is this big route from
paris to india essentially so you know if you're in if you're a young adult in the 60s and 70s
you're going through tehran that's one of your big stops on your like interrailing yeah you know
you're going through afghanistan you're going to try to get to
need to find yourself, but you're stopping off in Tehran.
But I mean, Kabul was going through a similar period.
Baghdad, our current view of the Middle East, it wasn't across the board.
This wasn't.
But I think if you're a young person listening to this, right, I don't think, like, your
idea of Iran, this should blow your mind.
Yeah.
In the 60s, Charlie, this footage doesn't have any women with cans.
You've got to get cans out.
Women in Iran in the 60s.
It's like California.
It's the swinging 60s.
They've got like London Red Double Decker Bucats.
But it's also just all based on like Britain.
I mean, it is so Western.
Yeah.
And I guess you can see why.
You can see why people are getting a bit livid.
Yeah, you can see why Grumpy kids has a point.
Yeah.
Coming over here, getting our women to get their cans out.
Yeah, look at this.
You've got the mini skirts in.
Yeah.
You know, the fucking makeup.
They're lined down.
They're doing science.
That's obviously terrible now.
Women shouldn't be anywhere loud anywhere near science.
I mean, they've got some things right.
Yeah.
No, I mean, a stop clock is right.
Twice a day.
so um but the shah is basically like we're gonna we're gonna fully westernized we've got all this
oil revenue coming in i'm being propped up by the americans they're paying me money
and he does that yeah it's brutal suppression uh which leads to discontent but they don't
know that it's gonna it will get worse after him yeah yeah but the shah's sort of great
undoing is the fact that he's concentrating on the economy the westernization and he's giving
people economic freedom and education without any political freedom right there's a tension that
can't hold.
Right.
If I'm,
if I'm, if I'm telling you,
like,
I'm going to give you 20 quid.
Yeah.
But you,
you have to vote for who I say.
Yeah.
You'd be like,
I don't.
Depend to.
Yeah.
I'm like, no,
you have to vote.
You have to vote reform.
Yeah.
20 quid.
20 quid, though.
It's 20 quid.
That's my point.
20 quid.
20 quid.
20 quid,
you vote reform.
25 and that's a deal.
Yeah, exactly.
That's kind of Iran.
Right.
So,
but there's always grumblings of discontent
because it's 20 quid or vote reform
but if you choose to take
if you don't take the 20 quid
or if you go, I'm not doing it
then I'm putting you in jail.
And fundamentally the pace of modernisation
there's always going to be tensions.
Like this always happens.
If you modernise too quickly,
huge swathes of people get left behind
they get discontented.
Yes.
Brexit.
It's Brexit.
It's Iranian Brexit.
Yeah.
The Shah is like, I'm going to, I'm going to start something called the White Revolution.
Right.
It's already sounding more and more Western every time.
I love this.
Are you thinking, oh, is that swing ball?
No, it's not.
Swingball's not white revolution.
The White Revolution, South Africa, very different.
He calls it the White Revolution because red means communist.
Yes.
And something we didn't say last time, actually, is that a large part of the coup to get rid of Mossadegh is the British,
use the threat of communism from the Russians
which has a northern border with Iran
as a way of getting their money in.
So the American...
And there's a lot of communist factions
in the intellectuals in...
Well, if you're a young intellectual
in the 60s, you are...
You know, along with your long hair
and your dirty bottom, you're reading
and writing about communism.
Yes, yeah, of course.
Part of the reason
their bottom is dirty is because they want to share
bathrooms. Yes.
They don't believe in individual toilet paper
or whatever.
use recycle toilet paper it's all it's all grim stuff yes
gretta communal she's got dirty bottom yeah um anyway so there's a there's a communist
party called the two-day party right basically they're all trying to they're trying to keep them
down but what the shah does in 1963 is he he calls it the white revolution because
the red implies communism black implies uh like islamic yeah so he goes well i'm going to call
it white to be like modernity right right this is also when
Howard Wilson is talking about the white heat technology.
White is a very modern color in this time.
Exactly.
60s.
It's the 60s.
But this is what's so weird is that if you call it a revolution, but you're the king,
it's not really a revolution, is it?
It's like you can't just, you're the one that's meant to be.
It's like Justin Trudeau at the front of his climate change rallies.
He's exactly that.
You're in charge, lad.
Yeah, what the fuck are you on about?
I'm going to start a revolution.
What are you leaving then?
No.
I'm going to lead it.
You go, well, that's not revolution.
That's just policy.
So the things that he does,
the things that he does
and his white revolution...
But if I was in charge,
every policy, I'd...
This is a revolution.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd be like Che Guevara,
just doing my...
Yeah, if I'll do my spring...
My autumn statement...
Yeah, I mean, it's a budget, is what it is.
It's not revolution.
But, I mean, to be fair,
if Rachel Reeves called
cutting disabled people's benefits,
revolution...
Exactly.
But she's dressed as Shegavara.
Yeah, she's like,
revolution, we're going to cut to...
But then that's a very weird revolution,
isn't it
these disabled people
are having it too
good for too long
Glenn Hoddles
like I've been
saying this
for you
Glenn Hoddle's like
what I'll be there
they've been punished
for since
this is a fucking revolution
people are just
chucking wheelchairs
down the stairs
they're building more stairs
they're getting rid of ramps
rid of ramps
more steps
more steps
but you know
all legs matter
I guess there would be
like a literal
tiered class system
upstairs down
There would literally be an upstairs downstairs if Rachel Reeves decides to leave a revolution against disabled people's benefits.
All able-bodied people right at the top.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've been down with these wheelies for too long.
Get us up there.
Anyway, so the White Revolution, which the Shah is aimed at.
Basically, he wants to, he wants to say that by the 80s, we will be more modern than America and the UK.
He's able to do this because
they're bringing in insane
oil revenue from BP
which women are granted the right to vote
and basically
So you bear in mind
So I guess we should bring in
Kameni and who this guy is
But while all this is happening
Kameni is watching
There's something bubbling
There's a there's a guy
Always watching
There's a guy who's always watching
Never saying much
He's just frowning
Yeah
Old Dr frown himself
So he came from a rural
It could be more different to the upbringing of the Shah.
It's Ying and Yang, right?
Yeah.
So the Shah's in Switzerland.
He's notching off waiters.
He's notherning has cooking cuisine.
And he grew up in a rural kind of...
Hom.
Yeah.
A small town, central Iran.
And he's from a religious family.
All his dad, his granddad, they're all like, they're book botherers.
Yes.
Yeah.
What's the equivalent of God bothering, but as Muslim...
Allah bothering.
Allah.
They're bothering Allah.
Aller annoyers.
Aller annoys.
They're Aller agitators.
What's he doing up there?
That's what they're saying.
They're knocking on doors.
They're saying, can I talk to you about Allah?
You're like, no.
Go away.
So he's just studying.
He's in his bedroom.
He's reading.
He's working his way up.
The clergy.
And maybe he's touching a bead every now and then, but he's reading.
To be honest, there's not.
He's reading the same book.
Yeah.
For his 20 years.
He's like me.
when I'm reading any book
when I'm like,
fuck and I'm like,
I'm like,
yeah,
he's reading it
because he has to go back.
I completely forgot
what that last three pages was.
He reads two senses
and goes,
oh,
fucking or I don't know.
And then he goes,
oh,
fuck I've read,
I've read,
I've read,
I've read two pages
and then I fall asleep
and then I go back
and I'm like,
I forgot the last two pages.
So I just,
I'm stuck on it for years.
He's stuck in like an infinite loop.
So he's not actually finish the Quran.
He's reading it for 20 years,
but he's not finished it yet.
Wait,
so that must be,
What happened there?
What?
What?
Cover up women?
Where did that go?
One of the slowest readers
of all time.
Cermania, that's why he's frowning
because he's trying to understand
what the book says.
What?
Huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he's one of the first kind of outspoken critics
of the monarchy in West Impsons.
Yeah, in the 40s,
he's starting to get slightly more politically involved.
But it's the white revolution
where grumpykins really,
really...
He's had enough.
He's had enough. Right.
He's finally put his book down.
I'm putting my book down
because I can't
finish it. I don't know how this ends, but I bet it doesn't end with you being able to vote.
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let's talk about what the shah is introduced. He's given women the right to vote and they're
included in politics. He's in dust, he's given five-year plans, he's building infrastructure
and then now you want to talk about land reforms because that's, you know, that's what
you like talking about, isn't it? Well, this was a big thing, yeah. So quite a progressive thing
And he's kind of, I guess, breaking down some more of the more feudal elements of Iranian
culture by redistributing land from these large landowners to peasants, basically, which happens
all over the place, right, trying to create kind of more western little.
Just like short cut middle class.
But that also creates a lot of...
Do you remember when you're playing the Sims?
Yeah.
You're like, I want a bigger house.
I'm just going to do whatever the she is and just like that.
Rosebud or...
Rosebud and just that, motherloid and sims too.
that's what he's doing he's like middle class on board
on board of these peasants they're too ugly and thick
but then you are pissing off powerful landowners
which will come back to boat you in the ass
footage of him just handing out money to peasants
but the shahra's doing it himself
and it's like when you see you know
Liz Truss or whoever in a hard hat
looking at a infrastructure project
that's he's basically in a tent
in like a food stall just handing out money
to a pure peasants like big wedges of cash
going you own your land now the state's paying for it
but this despite the women stuff
this is what grumpykins hates the most
the land reform right he's like
hates it I want
that's the church's land or
I think maybe he thinks the
the church is I don't really know what his problem is
by reform I'll be honest land reform is too boring
for me to ever really understand what's going on
but so the shah also he's progressing
in a lot of places but he's also doing some
just kind of like quite childish moves
like he gets the West Germans
to build I think
a nuclear power plant
at high expense
the West Germans is like brilliant
we're gonna make loads of money at this
but I was watching documentary
an interview with one of them
and it's just like it's crazy
there's no country that needs
a nuclear power plant less than Iran
because they sit on an ocean of oil
yeah and they also have no infrastructure
at all to power so it's like
yeah he's doing that as a symbol
of that we're just like the West
but it's like you don't even need this shit
and now they've got a nuclear power station
and we're fucked
I guess so I never put two or two together
so it's the Germans again is it
the Germans have fucked us
and more those than one.
Because now Grumpikins has got a nuclear power plant.
It was really, in this documentary I was watching,
it's just a very funny West Germany.
It was like, you're very happy for this work.
But quietly, I was thinking,
you God don't need this.
This is very...
Because also what the Shah does is he's like with the oil
and all this nuclear stuff.
He's basically bringing foreign laborers in,
Americans to run it all,
who are high skilled.
And then at the same time,
he's educating all these Iranians.
but when they come back, they still don't know how to work it
and there's no jobs for them
because there's Iranians.
Yes.
So a lot of, they've taken our jobs
anti-immigration center,
was from the middle class.
Yeah, and the Americans have more rights,
foreigners have more rights in Iran than Iranians do.
Because you can't get Americans to come to your country
if you can't, you know, I don't know,
fucking booze or whatever,
I don't know what rights they are.
But Iranians are like, well, hang on,
I'm educated, which weirdly me.
I'm into communism in the 60s.
And I'm coming back, and there's no jobs for me,
but I'm clever, and there's Americans here,
it's a tension.
Yeah.
So, Khomeini is, this is where he kicks off.
Yeah.
This is stage left, enter grumpikins.
Right.
And he's just, I don't think he actually says anything,
and everyone's life.
He just growls.
Yeah.
And he does, oh, he does do a famous speech.
Right, fair enough.
But in the speech, the famous speech is,
this amazing articulate speech,
for something.
Aww, that's that.
There's just, I always find it funny.
Just complaining about women having the vote
is just a funny platform.
It's just there's something really funny about being like a revolutionary,
but the revolution is that women don't.
It's taking rights away.
It's just something so funny about that.
It's like an attitude.
No.
We were.
It's like, how do you get people to cheer?
How do you get men and women to cheer?
Take away your vote.
Yeah.
But that's what, so it's like it's Rachel Reeves taking away disabled people's benefits.
Yeah.
It's able-bodied people and disabled people cheering.
Yeah.
They're lifting them up, lifting the chairs up like a Jewish wedding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He denounced Khomeini's sermon in 63, denouncing the shard as a wretched, miserable man.
And warned him.
He's basically like a dog.
He's a grumpy dog.
he's um what's the grumpy dog called the hang you know is it um not pluto clifford
not clifth he's what grumpy he's fucking clifford the big red dog no that's the that's the
communist party yeah two-day party of cliford the big red dog yeah the red scare you know the
droopy that's who i mean oh right yeah canadian's droopy yeah grumpy kins something i have a lot
respect for with islamic fundamentalists i mentioned this on to you before i think but
throughout human history men have always tried to oppress women yes it's quite a natural
urge in society
men are physically stronger
they will find systems of governance
women are annoying
that will and that's happened
in every single
but nowhere has done it
so thoroughly
than Islamic fundamentalists
you have to give it to them
like how have you managed to get away
with that I think a lot of
men across the world
it's like how have you done that
we've all been trying to do this
yeah and you've just done it
how have you managed to do that
you just thrown a towel over them
You just gone, right, no, shut up.
Shut the fuck up.
It is amazing.
It's the most comprehensive dismissal of women.
And they love it as well.
Some of them love it.
Some of them fucking love it.
They're like, don't take my burqa away.
You know, don't take my...
And this is from a very west of the century.
And I think partly the...
Because I find a lot of this type of really fervent Islamic fundamentalism is really scary
in quite like an interesting way.
That's why I'm really more about it almost like a horror story.
But it's just, it is, we're coming up from a very Western centric position.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's the position I find it so hard to understand.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
The cultural relativism of it.
Obviously, it matters a lot to a lot of people, but I just cannot, in my Western brain,
I really struggle to get my head around a lot of this stuff.
No, same.
But it seems the furthest from our worldview.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Women should get their tits out.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
We're like, we're like, put, put a girl,
Porter on Big Ben, she's nude.
You're not doing this in Iran.
Yeah.
Gail Porter on the Iranian parliament, everyone's dying.
And a lot of people say, why don't you do jokes about Islam?
That's like a lot of the comments we're getting.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Do an episode of Mohammed.
Yeah.
Because we're scared they'll kill us.
Yeah.
There is a, it's funny that you go, oh, you won't cross that line.
Yeah.
You mean the line attached to my neck to my head?
Yeah.
I'd quite like to not cross that line.
Yeah, it's funny.
Everyone's like, oh, yeah, why won't you do about Islam?
Because they will kill you.
They follow through.
Yeah.
They are, they really do follow through.
They follow through in their threats.
I mean, and Christians just don't.
They just don't.
Christians go, well, no biscuits for you.
I can live with that.
I can go around the corner and buy a packet biscuits.
I can't get another head on my neck.
I've got one head famously.
We all got one head.
And they will chop it off.
Look at Charlie Hebdo.
It was fucking, it was nasty little comedy writers like us.
Yeah, yeah.
And they got carried away when they won't do anything about it.
They fucking did.
He shot up a fucking cartoon studio.
Of course they'll shoot up a podcast.
One thing I definitely will say
for a fundamentalist
Islam is maybe
maybe the worst
sense of humor in the world.
They might have
They might have
the least sense of humor
of anyone
in the world.
They might be the shittest crack.
Kermaini is watching Mr. Bean like this.
Maybe the worst banter in the world.
like yeah christmas dinner i mean whatever dinner it is i don't know what dinner is
just have a laugh yeah they're not they're not yeah i mean you get fundamentalists is like
they're not they're i mean what are they laughing at they're laughing at people's heads being chopped
off maybe anyway uh blah blah blah blah the white revolution angers many particularly the clergy
who saw it as an attack on traditional Islamic values landowners and intellectuals yeah basically
tehran in particular i mean there's a big disparities in the cities in the country yeah
Tehran is like, you know, when
you know you've arrived,
there's a clock on the wall
on the bank.
Right.
As a city.
Tehran's like Tokyo,
London, New York,
Tehran.
Right, fine.
Now, no one fucking cares
what time it is in Tehran.
There's still,
there's no tits out,
I can't have a drink,
who fucking cares?
If you're a woman,
it's just time to get back to the kitchen.
It's not in Tehran.
It's never five o'clock in Tehran.
That's what that says is.
Yeah, it's never a, yeah,
it's never a glass.
last a white wine with the girls. It's cocktail hour.
Not in Tehran. It's not.
It's fucking cover up. Stop gobbling
cocks. Go home.
But doesn't, when does
You know, you know
the fucking COVID slogans.
Stay, stay indoors.
Protect the NHS, save lives.
Put that drink down. Stop golling cocks. Go home.
That's Iran.
When does Kameni get
exiled to the northern Iran?
It's in the 60s, I think.
at 64.
Kameen, so just after he starts grumphing off about the Shah's reforms, he's exiled to...
He either goes into hiding or gets exiled.
Well, he goes to Turkey, and then he goes to Iraq, and he goes to Najaf, which is one of the biggest cities in Shia.
He's Shia, by the way.
We'll come to that in a second.
I don't really understand.
I'll explain it, because I've got a little bit on it.
Basically, he goes into exile for, I think, 12 years, 14 years in like the north of...
Iran or Iraq somewhere
just biding his time
He's with just a couple
of very close family members
and occasionally has
some followers telling him
keeping him abreast
what's going on
but apparently apart from that
people who saw him
on his day to day basis
all he would do
is just go to the mosque
and home
for 14 years
he's trying to finish his book
he's trying to finish this book
but go to the mosque
that's it
so he's literally
there's nothing to say
that's it. He goes to Turkey initially
but then he's extremely angry at the secular
dress of Turkish women. So he goes to Turkey
he goes brilliant Islamic country
he sees everyone with the fucking
turketees in the hair and he goes
that's not right
so he goes... I mean he's bald as well
isn't he so I don't know he's always in
whatever that is hiding a hairline
isn't it? Is it turban?
Anyway so the Ayatollah is Shiite
and there's the two
major schools of his life.
What?
I think he's all right.
That's good stuff, isn't it?
It's a quick single.
Just take a quick single into the leg side.
Just change the strike.
Just change the strike.
Yeah, let's get Leach off strike.
Get him off strike.
Get Stokes him to win it with a shot.
The most famous single in the world.
Leach is doing like pun singles to make sure that he's never on strike.
He's just just flushing his glasses.
Just slow him down.
Slow the play down.
Quick single into the leg.
Sorry, he's Shiite.
Yeah, so Shiite and Sunni, it is very hard to understand,
but these are the two major schools of Islam.
Shiite fundamentally believes that there's, like,
a lineage from Mohammed,
the key one being his, like, nephew Ali.
I don't want to get this wrong,
because I know people care about this a lot.
You really don't want to get this wrong.
Sunnis believe in election through a council,
and Shia believe in a divine lineage through Ali,
Mohammed's cousin and son-in-law,
and they also believe in this sort of,
divine authority of the imans who are meant to be descendants of ali as spiritual and religious
leaders because they're divinely guided in the way that catholics believe in the pope yeah so
there's like a divinely guided individuals on earth yeah whereas the uh sunni it's a bit more
uh about just following the example of the prophet mohammed and recognizing the authority of
elected caliphs so there and there is also a mysticism to is it shia
Because there's a whole separate branch of some, oh, I can't know what it's called.
But there's the only majority, go majority Shiite countries.
The only majority Shiite country, I think, is Iran.
And because Iran has such a strong, rich cultural heritage of its own.
Yeah, because it's Persia.
Because of Persia, countries where...
Iraq's a bit of...
Oh, Iraq?
No, Iraq's a bit of a hodgepodge.
Yeah.
There's a slight majority, famously.
So there's a couple of them, but Sunni is 80% of all Muslims of Sunni.
Yeah.
uh that Saudi Arabia is kind of that you know
pyjamas
pajamas they're wearing pajamas
oh right
there's a lot of pajamas in this region
I don't think that's
I think I think
Sunni is pajama Muslims
right and Shia are
so what's what's the Ayatollah wearing
he's just wearing he's dressed like Darfur
he's dressed like a villa
he's Darth Vader isn't he
I mean it's kind of mad it's like
it's that are we the bad guys
you know that mention of web sketch
like why moreing a dark
cloak
anyway
but
the Shia
side of
Islam infuses
with the
Persian history
has its own
thing and that's
why Sunnis
they often
as a way of
slagan off Shia
to call them
Zoroathustrian
kind of
weirdos basically
which is an
ancient Persian
there's a mysticism
to Shia
I just love
as you're explaining
that I could see
almost
subtitles please don't
cut my head off
please don't come my head off
please don't get my head off
please don't get my head off
right so you've got
the Sunni
obviously please don't
my head off. I'm trying. I'm really trying. What I'd like is can I have a chance to
apologize before you cut my head off? That's what I want. I just said. Well, no, I just don't,
I just don't want. Do they take apologies? Yeah, that's what I mean. Can I can we, can you give
me a chance? I don't think they take apologies? Because they just go straight in with the
Hebdo, they went straight in, didn't they? They go, say, it's not say sorry or cut my head off. It's
cut my head off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like, also, I feel you can get out of a lot of
situations with comedy and charm. Do you know what I mean? And I feel it's very hard to charm
these guys. These guys are an absolute, uh, it's checkmate. It's straight jacket. You're not getting
out. So Khomeini is, is sent to Najaf. Yeah, but sheite. Yeah. Um, I think that's a bit
strong. But anyway, um, quick single, quick single, get off strike. Now, he goes, he goes,
he's not, he's never had a good time once. Uh, he's, uh, he finished a chapter once. He liked
that.
Brilliant.
But he's still
struggling to finish
this book
in Najaf in Iraq
which is a big
Shiite city.
Again,
I've heard it's
all right.
But, um,
it's gone for another one.
The thing is,
if you change a strike
a lot,
the bowl doesn't know
what to do.
If there's a left hand
and a right hand,
I don't know what I mean?
Because you keep
in singles in the same place.
They're going to...
Well, then it
change the field.
Yeah.
Anyway,
um,
what the fuck are we talking?
Oh, yeah.
So he starts,
he does sermons in Najaf,
and then a lot of this stuff
gets smuggled in
by a cassette.
So he's like bootlegging.
Right.
He's bootlegging sermon,
some of the driest bootlegging you've ever heard.
You know those people that stop you in Leicester Square or whatever with them?
You got him in my mixtape.
Das Kameney.
Once, when I was in New York,
we got stopped in Times Square by going,
going, hey, you got to hear my mixtape.
Poetry is my passion.
I was like, that's not what PIMP.
That's Pimp.
You're saying you've got a mistake called Pimp, Pimp, Pimp, Poetry.
The Pimp Poetriotry.
So Kamey's bootlegging.
And this stuff is kind of like through some,
cassettes that's getting into the rural Iran, the more conservative Iran, they're picking
up, they're like, this guy's, this guy slaps, man. But is this kind of, is there anyone
doing this intensity of Islam in the region before him? This is pretty still quite new.
Again, we're talking the 60s and you've got Turkey, which is secular, Iran, secular.
Saudi, there's some shit going on, but it's still, it hasn't, it's only just found oil,
I don't know. No, because I think at this point, oh no, maybe Iran is still the more,
the biggest oil producer in the world.
Anyway, so Khomeini's bootlegging, right?
And he's just constantly hating on the Shah.
Now, we need to get to one of the great,
I mean, just the great moments of this story,
which is, so the Shah has been modernised
in the country a lot. And in 1971,
the Shah decides that for the 2,500th anniversary
of the founding of the Persian Empire,
he is going to put Iran on the map
by hosting the sickest fucking party
there's ever been in Persepolis in the desert
Persepolis which is basically
Acropolis but of the Persian Empire
Yeah so Persepolis is the Great Ruin
the Persian Empire and it's in the middle of fucking nowhere
And it's hot as shit right
I mean that in both senses
It's temporally, it's very hot
And it's also fucking sick
Because this guy right
I don't love to go into this
This I mean so there's a documentary
Narrated by Awesome Wells
Yes
And what he does is...
They paid to narrate as a use...
Because they're getting all the stars.
So it's estimated that this costs in today's money around $700 million.
Right.
Right.
And bear in mind that the economy is booming,
but people don't have...
It's only really in the cities where people are having a nice time.
There's a lot of people having a very pooy time in a round.
Rachel Reeves would not be hosting one of these.
No, Rachel Reeves isn't hosting the biggest party in the way.
But it's like King Charles doing it.
It's like Rachel Reeves, like, I'm trying to cut to say people's benefits.
I'm hosting the sickest party.
Yeah.
We're going to have like, we're going to have a fucking Glastonbury.
Get some images of the party or stuff, but, right?
So what he does, now obviously Persepolis is basically inhospitable, right?
Because in the desert.
So he builds, uh, tents, like marquise, like a big wedding.
And he, uh, the marquies are filled with like chandeliers.
Yeah.
He flies over, uh, the, the, like, hottest French Michelin star.
chefs and there's this huge table that snakes along and he invites basically every major
king and world leader and there are I think it's 75 emperors kings queens and so he's announced
himself the shahs oh yeah this by this point he's crowned himself king of kings king of kings he's
an emperor but he because he views emperors in the rankings yeah as the highest of all yeah
that means that at the top table is him and
Japanese and highly salasi
who's technically emperor who are above
would be above the queen of England because she's just a queen
So the queen doesn't actually take this invitation
Because she knows she's not going to get cucked here
Yeah
So he's going to make the queen sit on a little stool
Yeah
Which I guess is that do you find out before you go in where you're sitting
I guess I guess there's a seating plan
You don't want to get there and they'd be like
Hang on I'm on the cuck table
But then they sent they sent
Duke of Edinburgh goes
He just wants to drink
He has a great time
I don't love to be
Fucking the jokes he made in here
Can you imagine
What do they got
They got fucking teetals in the head
You know
He saves a wild shit
I mean
Are those Newcastle fans
What are they doing here
No my friend
That's the Saudi elite
That's the Saudi king
What is he in the Newcastle ticket
Is he a season ticket old
Is he a Newcastle
What's he doing
We all
We're all dressed up
They're wearing a pyjamas
Played up
So the Duke of Edem
is making some
Very off kind of jokes
Also this huge party
still a lot of it, even though it's celebrating
the Persian Empire 2,500 years,
it's still very much based on
a British constitutional
night, or like a royal
Yeah, it's a royal banquet.
But it's styled off a lot of British stuff,
which is strange.
Well, yeah, because he is so Western.
I mean, even if you look at footage, which will get up of the coronation,
I remember watching it thinking,
this is like the Queen being coronated.
It looks, everyone is in,
it's exactly British 50s dress.
It's mad.
He's got like a sash and shit.
So first of all, he welcomes everyone and he ranks them.
But there's no thought of what they do once they've met.
So it's like autistic dads at barbecue.
They meet the Shah, all these kings and queens.
And then they just, no one's there to be like,
oh, your Royal Highness, this is the king of Belgium.
They're just milling about.
Right.
So they've spent 700 million pounds on a party, but they haven't got that like...
They haven't got like a party planner.
Right.
Like a host.
Yeah.
So they're just milling about in the fucking...
in massive tent.
Which they're not used to
it's something like this.
You know,
to bear this in mind,
this is an in-hills
desert.
Like a school disco.
Yeah.
This genuinely.
There's like the blokes
are over there
and all the queens are over there.
But they've also,
they've built like sewage system.
They've built kitchens.
They've completely built a city in a desert
purely for like one or two days
of a sick party.
The menu is they've got like a rack of lamb.
Oh, this is the actual menu.
Because at one point they have stuffed quails
with like truffles and foie gras
and they serve it on a tray
with a massive fucking peacock
and everyone's like
you don't eat peacock
and he's like fuck it
I'm gonna get a kill a peacock
and that's just decorative
they've killed a peacock
put it in the middle
and then put quails
they're stuffing everything
with truffles and foie gras
I mean it's the French
have been given free reign
to be as depraged as possible
which does make me think
what on earth are their toilets
yeah
are they squatting toilets
in the desert
kebab
kebab
there's a kebab in there
the greatest party
700 million if you're going to a wedding
anyone in next please
talent sauce anyone in next
everyone's in there sashes
yes sir yes please
yes sir yes sir yes sir
no no sheish just on her
no she's just done it
um yeah if you if you went to a wedding
where you knew they spent 700 million pounds
and you were served a cab
you'd be like guys
this is every weekend for me
are the hookers like where's the money gone
where's it gone
two and a half thousand bottles of Don Perignon
2,000 bottles of Bordeaux
like shadow
chateau brian steak
shout enough to pap
it's like the best
the best the best
it's full on
like it's the best party ever
yeah it fucking it slaps
then they get all of them out
to do like a light show
a light and sound show
at Persepolis
right with fireworks
there's a three minute pause
after the light
the sound show
where it's pitch black
because they're in the desert
and everyone's like
what's going on
and they're quite cold
they're quite chilly
and then the fireworks start
everyone thinks it's a terrorist attack
because it's been a three minute pause
and then they just
this massive explosion
but the light show is like
do you know I think
what film is it
is it view to a kill
there's a sequence in Egypt
with a light show
that's what I think of
right right
anyway
yeah of course
this is James Bond
reference
yeah I mean
listen we're in Bond
Bond's on the screen
to place this in
we're in 70
we're in 71
right so this is
Connery's just left
yeah Moore's in
this is live and let die
right
so 71 to 79
is a very critical era
during the Bond franchise
right
because it really becomes
quite gay.
Right.
So actually,
do you know what?
Fuck.
So Diamond's Off Forever's 71.
Oh, is it?
Oh,
is it?
Living Let Die is hot on its heels.
Diamond Forever's
Connery's last one.
So actually,
what you could say
is that the Iranian Revolution
maps the James Bond films
in that it's all getting too gay,
Roger Moore,
and then the Ayatollah
is Timothy Dalton.
Right.
Right.
He comes through.
It's Living Let Die 77.
Fair enough.
Right, right, right.
So Living Let Let Let Die.
got a bit gay.
It's all a bit like,
hmm,
and then it's, you know,
it's just getting ridiculous.
Roger Moore,
some of the shit he's saying,
his eyebrows twitching.
And Bond fans are like,
come on, man,
he's not meant to be,
he's making sort of Tim Vine jokes
after his chill and 15 people.
He's doing pen behind the ear
after killing something.
He's not meant to be gay.
Enter Dalton,
Ayatollah,
the grumpykins of Bond.
The great thing like James Bond
as well as just like the fan pace.
And I do feel it should be protected
because it's so important
to British dads
where it's like for a lot of,
this is why I find the debate
about the next bond it's like it should be white and British because for white British dad it's all we've
got they have it's all we and it's all these dads it's like this is the one happy time I have
just don't take it from it this is all I've got genuinely if my wife goes to bed and the kids are
asleep I'm going to watch a James Bond film just fundamentally let them have it just let it's
all they have it can never mean as much to you as it does to British dads it just can't
My favourite film.
It's all that they have.
Don't leave it alone.
Don't ruin it.
Don't ruin it.
Imagine the going...
It must be so stressful
running a film franchise
where you know
that's the first thing
in people's heads in the cinema.
Don't ruin it.
Please don't fuck it up.
Oh, I wonder if all this will be like,
don't ruin it.
Don't fucking is all I've got.
All I've got is this film.
Yeah, you're going to wait
if the new bond's any good
before you kill yourself.
That's like you're waiting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If there's a bond film coming out,
I won't kill myself to after it.
Anyway
So the part of the party is sick
But it's an absolute
It's one of his biggest fuck-ups
If not his biggest fuck-up
The optics have never been worse
Terrible
Because the country at this point
Is that you know
People have no political freedom
And there's a lot of money coming in
But it's only being enjoyed
By very few of them
And a lot of money is
Also this celebration
People can't
It's not like a public thing
No
Not even like coronation
Which is a televised
It's a public thing
So what he said
So they go and take the film, a documentary they've made of it, with Austin Wells.
They show it.
Now, they're meant to show it to the Iranian cultural minister, but the Shah actually watches it.
And his reaction is, where are all the Iranians?
And it's like, well, mate, you held a party away from all of them.
Right.
But we should talk about the procession because it is fucking funny.
They do this procession through the desert of like old Persian history.
Yeah.
And it looks like a school play.
Because they're wearing big, like, obsidian beards.
And like fake mustache.
the kind of dream code.
It's like a nativity play
but it's all the world leaders
lined up and it's just them
just walking with like a fucking
cardboard wheel.
Is that the shittest?
Yeah.
I mean it's awful.
Anyway, so that's
that's 1971 and a lot of people
you know say this is his
great moment of like hubris.
Yes.
This is his kind of
his mad arrogance, a sense of
complete disconnect with reality.
Disconnect with reality.
Yeah.
And all the time he's got a secret police
who run a kebab shop
who are putting people on spikes
and twisting them round
he's making Donomi out of distance
lamb dissonance
yeah
there's just there's dissidents on spikes
just turning like that
and there's like yes please
my friend yes please yes please
wait so the kebab shop near your house
called Savak is that named after the secret police
or is that a secret police named after something
historically Persian
I've got no idea
I've got no idea
I don't know why I asked
But there's two kebab shops
Near me
There's Savak and then there's
Kababish
And Kababish is called Kababish
Because it's actually an Indian restaurant
Right
But they do the best kabbas over have
Right okay
But Savak is more traditional
Right
Just just
A bit like Sonny and Shia
Like
Southeast London's
Kabab fans are divided
Right
Right
You got the more traditional
And you got the one
That maybe has a Persian influence
Kabbish is fucking wacky as shit man
Cababish is mystical
but that's where I am.
I'm a Shia, I guess.
So, the Shah, the 70s in Iran, it's starting to get a bit neggy.
At one point the Shah goes on a tour of China to see what our old friend...
He loves a holiday as well.
He loves a holiday, he's always going on a holiday.
He's traveling.
He goes to see what Mao's up to.
And he comes back and he goes, this guy, I don't like that to do with this guy.
I reckon we could have a one party state.
Oh, yeah.
He constantly goes to other people's countries and he learns the wrong lesson.
that's like what's going on in there
what's the worst thing that you guys are doing
he goes to Germany he's like oh what's that
concentration all right no we'll do that
all right yeah the Shah's on holiday a lot
he's um he's he's got air miles
put it that way right right right right but he goes to China
and he comes back and rather than think
I probably wouldn't do that kind of land reform he goes
I fucking I reckon one party
he's the way to go
so he comes back and he goes
do you know what all political parties are banned
and you have to be a member of my party
right this is I think in 75 right
So this basically starts meaning that all the while, it should be stressed that Iranians,
they're being funded to go to elite universities in Europe and America.
They're becoming very clever.
And they come back and there's no jobs for the lot.
So the middle class is being kind of gutted.
And so you have these intellectual Iranians who are always talking about.
That's the hotbed for communism.
Hotbed for communism.
They're middle class, but they haven't got jobs.
They're commies.
They're smelly commies.
They're in flat shares.
They're watching Navarra media
Yeah, they're smart homeless people
They're smart homeless people
When the capitalism
fails smart people
They have a big beer
They don't wash their bumps
They become communists
They start watching Navarra media
Aaron Bastani
Is he Iranian? Probably is
He is. Is he?
Is he? There you go
You should get him on
I'd love to get Bastani on
Nah, I don't want to talk to him
The smell of his bottom
And Navarra got the stinkiest bums in UK media, I reckon.
In UK media, yeah, probably, probably.
Telegraph, clean as ourselves.
All right, yeah.
Yeah.
If we're tracking, bum washing to, if we're mapping that on to left and right.
Well, I think, yeah, the telegraph probably gets through a whole toilet roll.
Every session.
Yeah, because they're not cared about the environment at all.
No, exactly, exactly, yeah.
And they're bidetting as well.
These guys just do a shit
They pull up their trousers
And go and fucking do a podcast
Oh fucking hell
What are we doing what we're on about
You're talking about Navarra media
Yeah I don't know
The Iranian Revolution
Basically
There's more and more political prisoners
Samaka
Samaka making Donomi out of dissidents
Yeah
The middle class I've got dirty bums
And it gets to a crunch point
right in uh now i'll enter enter saddam right yes saddam comes into power in iraq in i think the
sort of mid-late 70s and what he does is uh he hears some of um kamani's awful bootlegging and he's
like get this fucking this open mic around my fucking country yeah because you might think they're
all the same but saman's actually kind of the opposite of commene in the kind of evil middle
east i fucking love saddam so he's a secularist right
yeah yeah yeah uh and he believes that he believes that all she i are like mystical fucking
weirdos yeah yeah right and he is trying to run like uh he's just trying to run like a kind of
a classic european dictatorship right he's got saddam's fashion is one of the best
dress dictatorships yeah other's ever been yeah the whole desert camo the high belt the beret the
tash if if my wife let me i would look like saddam hussein because i've got a weak chin i can't
pull it off
but I can go such a strong tash
and I would ideally just be
I mean I'd love to do an episode
when we do Saddam
we will do a great episode of Saddam
when we do Saddam I'm wearing the
I'm doing that I'm doing the fatig
the belt the beret the tat I'm going for it
and my wife can just fucking
she can just deal with it you can just deal with it
Saddam kicks bootlegging Khomeini
out of his country
and bear in mind he still hasn't finished this book
and Saddam's like you've had 20 years
you still not got to the end
get out
Kermaini weirdly goes to France
Yes well it actually turns out to be a great move
Because at the time with the controversies that's surrounding the Shah
Khomeini who is keeping schum about a lot of his maddest beliefs
Yeah I remember just because there's his his bootlegs have not been
widely distributed he did the the key play that Khomeini does for this whole revolution
Yeah, he keeps his fucking mouth shut yeah
He just looks badass yeah and keeps it stum
so in this suburb of parish there's a lot of communists coming to meet him he's starting to be seen as this kind of this hope and all these people who don't like the shah the communists uh the kind of more liberal middle class the moderate clergy yeah they all start putting a lot onto him and he's just keeping he's a blank canvas he's just letting people project he's that's why he's wearing black yeah because you can be yeah the western media basically paint him out to be gandy because they're like oh a bald guy in pajamas
Yeah, I don't know who that is.
He's a little, he's a freedom fighter.
Gandy Alf.
He's Gandy Alf.
Yeah, exactly.
I got it.
I get him.
That's genuinely what the New York Times,
they like,
they make him out to be this kind of virtuous,
ascetic kind of holy man who just wants justice.
Yes.
And they don't realize underneath all that,
Grumpy Kens is like, I'm going to fucking,
when I get in, I'm going to be the grumpiest kind of all time.
Yeah.
So he goes to Paris and the Western media kind of
block and because
in towards the late 70s
you know you've got to
put it into context
Vietnam Watergate
people are getting quite like
Aggie against America
colonialism, neo-colonism
all that stuff
American foreign policy
and so you know
guys with long hair
and flares
and dirty bums are writing
op-heads about how great
about the pyre pyre pyjamas art and shit
Gandhi
Gandhi's about you know
all this stuff
they they're
are they're drinking the gatorade
yeah right the west
yeah and because the shah
is there's a lot of political prisoners
that his human rights record is quite boo-boo
even though we haven't actually
fucking we haven't talked about the oil crisis either
the crisis of the 70s right
yeah just as a quick recap
1973 Yom Kippur
war that's not about Kippers that's about
fucking
lanes
boundaries lanes
yeah
gerrymandering
Stan your lane
yeah it's Israel
it's Israel
It's about borders.
It's about borders, not lanes, yeah.
If only they had a lane assist.
The Israelis and the Palestinians.
Anyway, it's Israel and Syria, I think.
Big war in 1973.
And what this does is OPEC, which is the organization of petroleum exporting countries.
There's a boycott of anyone who supports Israel, which is obviously all the Western countries.
So the price goes through the roof.
And then the Shah sees this.
And he goes, oh, fuck, if we just increase the price, never mind about what's going on Israel, we'll fucking cane it in.
So he increases the price so much that his oil revenues go from 13 billion a year to 80 billion a year.
And there's one year in the 70s where Iran's projected economic growth is 40%.
And bear in mind that like we live in Britain in 25, we're like...
1% we're celebrating.
0.05%.
That's what we're doing.
We're on the streets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're like, we're stuck in Kirstarmor off.
You've cracked it, right?
This guy, trust would fucking love this guy.
he's going 40% growth
but none of this money is going to people
and there's no political freedom
so anyway
1977
Star Wars comes out
and everyone's like
this Khomeini guy looks a lot like Darth Vader
no so 1977
the Iranian government cracks down
on opposition groups including
the leftists, intellectuals
if you've got a dirty bum you're getting in jail
remember the Nazis built the jail
and there's a widespread campaign
of censorship, political oppression
which only causes more protests,
more people are sticking on his bootleg,
commeney's bootlegs.
Something that happens in nearly all big revolutions
is the person in charge fucks it.
Fumbles the bag, has a meltdown.
Be it the English Civil War with Charles I, Charles I,
French Revolution or Sir Nicholas II
in the Russian Revolution.
It's always someone, the person
that has opportunities to take control of a situation
and they just fuck it.
Fuck it.
This is the beginning of him fucking it.
He panics, basically.
Because some protests are erupting and he panicked.
He sees that Chomeli's getting a lot of support.
Yeah.
And what he does, now, you know how they talk about triggers?
Yeah.
So, like, when you're doing GCC history, you're like, okay, so these are the causes of the First World War.
The trigger is the assassination of Franz Ferdman, which sparks it.
You're always looking about causes, the trigger.
Now, we've talked about the causes for nearly two hours now.
Yeah.
The trigger is that someone writes an article, the Iranian, the Shah, writes an article in a popular paper,
calling the iotaota gay
now he was like
I've got a perfect plan
yeah yeah
this will show him up he's a he's a woofter
what you mean the straightest man who's
he means the guy who's making the straightest songs
the guy who's so straight he can't finish
a book
he goes yep he's gay
he lives in France
why else would you move there
unless you're gay he's thick
he's stupid he's got stupid
eyebrows look at his silly beard
he's big gay
and this this is like a sort of esteemed
newspaper and the country goes
fucking ape shit
they're like
it's pure slander
yeah it's completely
none of it's true obviously
but the shars just hit
the your gay card
that's all he's got
and they hate that
and they all hate it
famously around hates being gay
well do you reckon in the 60s
in the swing of 60s
is it little gay
yeah it must be a bit going on
homosexuality was criminalised
under the shard it was mostly tolerated
oh wow
so it's like a class C drug
yeah yeah but then
Iotola comes
in death penalty.
He's not fucking up.
He doesn't fuck about the ice hollering.
If you get your dick out in the wrong place,
you're done.
You're done.
He's never more grumpy than seeing gay sex.
Death penalty.
So what happens now is in 1978, 79
is such a big year.
We are on the cusp.
We're on the cusp.
The trigger has been pulled.
We're in a tinderbox.
He's just done it.
He's called the grumpy.
guy gay, what the fuck's going to
It's about to kick off. If you
can't wait for the next episode where we
actually go through the
in and outs of the revolution,
the embassy siege, all that happens
with Iran. Khomeini sexuality. Is he
gay? No.
Please don't cut my head off.
I will spoil that one.
I'll ruin that surprise. He's straight.
He's as straight as round as ever lived. And
I love straight guys. I think they're the best.
If you can't wait for the next episode,
that will, is already on the Patreon?
Add free. All that stuff. But either way, thank you so much for listening. Don't cut a heads off. See you next time.