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Welcome once again to Finn versus History.
I'm joined by Horatio Gould.
Hello.
And this is the final part, the softly spoken Horatio Gould.
This is, hello.
This is our fourth part.
You're right, Charlie.
Yeah, if Churchill sounded like that.
Find them on the beaches.
And then, you know, maybe find them on the landing grounds.
Yeah, we will never surrender.
What was that?
No, we won't give up.
Sorry?
If this island story is to end.
Speak up.
yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of wet dads actually that I meet that sound a bit like that
like this uh no it's fine they're small coffees small what they're like small
they're like small you know fancy coffees there's a real I don't know there's just a
real you can sort of track the dad was these kind of like middle class London dads yeah the
defeated London dad who's like I'm no I'm this is what a feminist looks like yeah
that kind of thing no I work full time and I'm the full time I'm a full time dad and I'm actually
it's fine actually yeah it's absolutely fine actually a real man I'm actually a real man
looks after they're like this.
Yeah.
There's a lot of that.
There's lots of toxic masculinity about
when actually this is what
an ideal amount sounds like.
Yeah,
I don't even fuck my wife
because that's toxic.
I just sort of stradma
I just hide in the fridge
and wait for her to finish herself off
because I'm a real feminist.
Anyway, welcome back.
This is episode four.
The fourth part's rule is pretty sloppy.
Save space for toxic masculinity.
Yeah.
I think I'm quite openly toxic.
I'm fighting toxic masculinity
Yes, exactly.
We are at Dunkirk.
There's 338,000 toxic males on a beach.
Bonnie Blues, licking her lips.
About to turn it into cum, Kirk.
Their male privilege, they're left there on.
And if the feminists were in charge,
you know, if it had been Winifred Churchill,
she would have gone to let them sink into the sea.
Yeah.
Let's start the whole thing again.
Exactly.
They've made a mess.
Brilliant.
We can just scissor each other at home.
Let's scissor each other at home
until this whole thing blows over.
We're talking, believe it or not, about Dunkirk.
The British love of queuing.
Yes, that's all.
It builds into it.
That's all, it's men cueing.
It's very similar.
It's like everyone's like saying,
very proud of the kind of stoic waiting to die.
Yeah.
Same people here, isn't it?
It's just, I mean,
lined up, waiting to die.
The image of this men just waiting patiently.
It's like a post office queue,
but you die at the end.
And there's still be Brits going,
what are they?
What places to be?
Why don't you think I want to kill it out?
Yeah.
I want to get a good spot in the afterlife.
Is it Christmas?
Is it?
Christmas, isn't it?
Oh, it's a nightmare.
Absolutely nightmare.
God, you've thought with Amazon over then.
He thought of this.
That's an absolute nightmare at Christmas,
supposed to.
Can you hurry up?
Dying, please.
I would like to die, please.
There's Nazis two miles away.
Can you hurry up?
So, we're on a beach in Dunkirk.
There's 300,000 British men looking awkward.
Yeah.
It's kind of people.
Bumferk.
Sorry?
Dumb Kirk.
Bumthirk.
Bum fuck.
Really scraping it out there.
Really scraping a barrel.
It turns out, 300,000 blokes in a beach is not loads happens for four episodes.
But it's an amazing, it is an amazingly powerful thing that happens.
Start the boats.
Start the boats.
So 300,000 men are on a beach.
Tennant, who's the guy.
Not David Tennant.
He's on the 29th of May.
Tenets, the homeless pint cans.
No, he didn't invent tenants.
This is another tenant.
This is the third tenets.
Not the beer guy, not the Doctor Who.
The Christopher Nolan film Tenets, not a biopic.
Not Tenant, no, or whatever that's called.
So he's gone back in time to do this in reverse.
Right.
Whatever the film is about.
Couldn't really follow it.
The Christopher Nolan, I watched a really shit Christopher Nolan film the other day.
Which one?
He loves time stuff.
The one, it's called like Memory or something, Memori.
Memento?
That's one of his best ones
Fucking shite
That's a good film
I didn't understand it at all
Well yeah you wouldn't
Yeah but you earlier
You said I can't see or here
Yeah I'm getting my eyes and ears
Was that on air?
I don't think he said that on air
Yeah
Charlie before we started this series
Quite flippantly said
Yeah I need to
I'm testing to see
Because I can't see all here
Yeah
And we've been working with us
For six months now
And you just said
As a podcast producer
You can't see or here
So when we ask you
Are we recording on picture and sound
You're like
I guess so
He's basically krill
I push two bucks
on this point.
I push two buttons.
I'm going to get
to spec savers
and they're getting
to that's one
of his better ones.
No,
it's not.
I didn't,
nothing happens.
It's all filmed backwards.
Well,
yeah.
You would think that
because you can't
fucking see all here.
Basically being produced
by Helen fucking Keller.
That's essentially
what this podcast is.
It's the rest of history
if it was hosted
by an Nazi apologist
and produced by Helen Keller.
That's what this show is.
Anyway,
Ramsey,
I don't know who that is.
He puts out a call
for small boats
to hell
Because on the 29th of May, they've realized there's a big mole, big breakwater.
They're like, let's line up all the guys on the mole and then we can evacuate them that way.
Now, bear in mind that the reason the Luffah can't, aren't, they're meant to be like,
they've been charged with destroying us.
Yeah.
Us.
Yeah, we know it's us.
Yeah, no, no.
Us, the good guys, the British.
Yeah, no.
Not the, not the horriblest thinking arts, isn't there?
thousand-year dream right no no not their not they're not they're beautiful fever dream
what if imagine not that that's implicit yeah no of course take you can't take things
granted there's some terrible people with the terrible opinions out there yeah um imagine imagine
the great sliding doors moment this is Cameron Diaz is she in that film no it's uh Gwyneth Paltrow
Gwyneth Paltrow very different film I'd like it's got a dido soundtrack I prefer this film
what sliding doors but it's of a death train explain so what's the premise what's the
sliding doors moment of the death train i guess hitler's on a train and the doors close and those
were the doors to get to i mean it's sliding doors he gets into art school isn't it uh but then he
wouldn't be hitler don't look so serious so sad no that's not the slide the sliding doors is this
this is hitler's sliding doors but then he wouldn't be hitler gwyneth paltrow through her life
style brand goop has suggested that squatting while urinating in the shower can be beneficial
for pelvic floor health pelvic floor is a women's issue charlie it's a women's issue covered
it's stinky old piss don't have pelvic floor yeah we have cocky ceiling cock sealing um anyway so basically
the evacuation of dunc you've had a huge fucking indian and it's you know when you you know it takes you
like seven shits to clear it clear it out yes you just keep going back to the toilet yeah you don't know
what's going to come out.
It's like me.
Sometimes it's just rabbit pellets.
After our cricket day out,
I had a bump collapse before us.
Yeah, exactly.
But you have to keep getting different boats to ferry away.
Yeah.
It's basically 300,000 men were stuck in your tummy.
Yeah.
And you had just at different points.
Every point.
Just small boats, just little trips, chip away the total.
Just chipping it down in singles.
On the 29th of May, so bear in mind the night before,
they've evacuated 17,000.
The day before that, 7,000.
They're trying to get 40,000 and 408.
But the real key is they realize they can use this,
this breakwater and also they start making this um pier out of lorries they get all the lorries
they get lorry pier they get lorry pier right they get all their lorries because they got
loads of kit and they're just leaving it yeah it's like they're doing dark bikes over the lorry pier
yeah it's evil canevaling home that's what they do they build they they get lorries and they
deflate all the tires and then they push them into the sea and they put wooden planks on top
of them and they realize that you can that's steady enough to walk out which is kind of creative thinking
I mean this is what you'd say brings out the best in British
kind of thinking outside the box
backed against the wall cornered what are they going to do
think outside the box yeah think outside the box
with something innovative and boring
yes that's British that's British back to the corner
I guess that's quite a good idea
why don't we do that? Yeah I want to make a peer out of lorries
keep our trail mix in it keeps it fresher yeah
yeah thanks that's a good idea yeah
why doesn't have a backpack we had a little bum bag
that we could take on the wall oh that's a very good idea yeah
boring but I'm glad you're thinking of it
yeah someone is
Brazilians are like, yeah, we'll be shagging, but I'm glad you guys are thinking about that.
I'm glad you've found a way of keeping your trail mix dry.
Someone needs to.
Nothing worse than soggy trail mix in a 10-hour carnival fuck session.
So, bear in mind, Goering has persuaded Hitler that you want...
Stop, stop. We have to get through.
Bum-firk.
That was poor.
That was really poor for.
Gurning is good, though.
I feel you're judging me because of my
past failures.
Herman Gurning
because he's on
man.
Yeah,
okay,
fine.
Bumfirk was bad.
Bumfork's bad.
Bumfork.
You miss every short you don't take.
Bumferk.
You've already,
you'd already said come to
come.
That wasn't good either.
No.
Christ.
Listen,
Guring has been charged
with annihilating the BF by air.
But much like cricket,
God is on our side.
with the weather, okay, in that it's cloudy and yet flat seas.
What's bad about that?
Well, no, normally if it's cloudy up top, it's choppy seas.
But I'm just saying it's perfect conditions for an evacuation.
So why this gets called the miracle...
Green and pleasant land, Jerusalem plays, God's on our side.
Right.
But why it gets called a miracle is that so many things come together to enable this evacuation.
There's a cloud cover, which means the dive bombers can't actually strafe the beach.
There's the whole order that Hitler gives to the panzers, which means that it gives, buys us time.
There's 7,000 brave boys, some of which are French, weirdly, dying for us.
Was French taking their berries off, putting a bowler hats on and pretending they're English, which is really bad.
I am English.
Yeah, well, actually, a lot of French people get away at Dunkirk, which is, I don't think that's cricket.
Would you mean they get on the boats?
Yeah, 100,000 of the 338,000 are French.
Really?
Yes, which does not get said enough.
But it's more like, I think a lot of people who did shout at them to defend your own country.
I think so.
That's what I'd be shouting because I was there.
I said, what the fuck are you doing again on this boat?
Well, I'd be waiting on the other side saying, start the boat,
and then as soon as a Frenchman comes off, stop the boat.
Right, right. Stop them. Stop them. Close the gate.
Sorry, sorry, mate. Back you go.
So what they're doing, by the, so there's a line just outside Dunkirk,
but at this point on the 29th, Hitler's gone, right, to panzers again.
Yeah, Panzas. I got, blob!
Gets the panzas going again.
So the ring is tightening, not just Hitler's.
The ring is tightening around Dunkirk.
What was that, Bainfooler?
over the radio
I think there's a bit
There's some interference
I told you
Pansas
now
There's some interference
on the line
I come
My plumber
Are you going through a tunnel?
I can't quite hear you
What do you
Anyway
Farsi Hitler's on the charge
And
so what the
Brits are doing by the way
is that they better
like leave just all their care
all their weapons, all their jeeps, all their tanks.
Like, the entire army is in France,
and they're just like, right, get all the men, fuck everything else.
But they don't want it to fall into the hands of the Germans.
So they basically start pouring porridge into the engines.
The jeeps.
They pour, like, oats and sand, anything they can find,
just like shove some beef in the engine.
Just like, make sure that does can't work.
So you don't...
Would that ruin a car forever?
Well, I don't know, but I guess they're just guessing.
They're like, we've got to...
What have you got?
I've got some porridge in it in.
We'll put that in the engine.
and see what happens.
British bats
to the corner.
They're not always
going to be good ideas.
No,
there's the lorry pier
work, but this
porridge car is really
not taking off.
Yeah,
someone lobbing
marmalade
damages at the Panthers.
I don't know.
Will they stop them?
It worked for Paddington Bear.
Maybe it'll stop here.
I don't know.
So the Germans can't
bomb because of the cloudy
because it still feels
like you've got to be bombing us
now once we're...
You should be trying
everything you can.
Listen, there's 300,000 men
on a beach
looking up,
praying for delivery.
and you've got some Nazi bombers.
Part of me's like, what do you mean?
We'll just give it a go.
Put all of your bombs in the 300,000.
We're all there.
It's 10 mile beach, but they can't.
I mean, as we discovered in the history of flight,
you know, this is only 40 years into flying.
You know, this is, to place this, right?
This is 1940.
This is, what, six or seven years after Amelia Earhart,
sort of signaled the end of female pilots.
Yeah, Air Crash.
Air Crash.
Amelia Air Crash.
Airport.
A media airport, as Charlie calls her.
A media airport signalled the turn from female pilots to air stewardesses.
And it's just before the pill was invented.
Right.
Is it?
Yes, the pill was invented in the 60s.
Was it?
Oh, yes.
That was a, okay.
Which, as we know, was the death now for the economy.
Because the shagging.
Or no, because they're now going to work.
Women can now work.
Right, right, right, right, right, yeah.
Never recovered, really.
The economy is yet to recover.
I still don't quite understand
why women work
I just don't get it
I still don't understand
I don't understand it
I feel once again
not saying that I
would be a good
military commander
but I do reckon I could have done
a better job
I think what we're learning
is that actually
we would be very good
I reckon just like
well they're all there
just try to think of something
try a bit harder
I mean they're thinking
of porridge cars and stuff
you think outside the box
they're all sat there
and they're going to be there
for two days
they're pouring porridge
into cars
they're completely out of ideas
they're fucked.
Even if you just lob
as many bombs as you can
over the wall of the beach or whatever.
But it must be said
there's also like rearguard actions
all along the corridor
which does not get mentioned
in the story
because everyone's thinking about the boats
and the imagery
of all the little boats coming
but no one actually thinks about
all the rearguard fighting
and the corridor to Dunkirk.
Yeah.
So the water systems around Dunkirk
had all been turned off
so the troops are like
looting bars, they're getting drunk
obviously they're a beach
right.
It's like an all inclusive
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like a little beach.
And again, and again.
Coconut.
Swim up bar, you know, all that.
So waiting on the beach, they're standing in chest high water in order to access all the little smaller boats that start coming from...
Because what they worked out they could do is get the small boats and they could go into the shallow water, pick them up and they take them to the bigger boats a bit further out, which would then take them back to Britain.
So this is just constant shuttle running.
As you said, ten shits are...
While they're waiting, they've got snorkels on armbands.
yeah um there's not on the beach and this is what makes you so proud to be british soldiers waited
in orderly cues and warded off impatient troops with guns there's a story about um how one in one of
the rearguard actions uh near the dunkirk town someone was like you were going to fight to the death
and they were like oh but i'm just going to try and get on a boat or whatever and they were like
if you cross this tree line i'm going to shoot at you and then one of the officers did and they just shot him
Oh, I don't know why I thought the story was going, but...
That's just...
It just tells you how, like, you know,
there were people that died so Dunkirk could happen.
Could live.
Could live in our minds.
Yeah.
So people died to...
So people could cue.
People die for us to make fun of this.
You should remember that.
I mean, got to think what this podcast would be
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It might be an anti-Nazi podcast.
This would just be a sort of, I don't know what it would be.
It'd be like fucking the news agents.
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Anyway, 29th of May.
I reckon they're having a nice time.
They're singing.
It's a beach.
You know, it's a beach.
You know, British don't get, they don't have pebble beaches, mainly.
So, you know, they're like, oh, the sandy beaches, nice.
They've got the towels out.
Building sandcastles.
Maybe they're building like snow angels.
They're burying them in the sand with pitts.
Well, a bit of fun, isn't it?
A bit of fun.
Anyway, on this day, this is the crucial day, because of the big mole,
47,310 British troops are evacuated,
which overtakes the original number that was aimed in Diamond of Dynamo in one day.
So now they start thinking, fuck, I reckon we might be able to get everyone out now.
So originally with the ambitious ideas of what Dynamo could be,
they just thought it would be like, ideally like 30,000 people.
Yeah, they were like 40,000 in two days would be amazing.
That would be incredible.
and then the rest are just fucked.
The Germans fucked it.
The Germans fucked it.
They absolutely fucked it.
That's what I've been saying.
Hitler, after this,
shouldn't be able to sleep at night.
That's what I'd say to him.
It's what I'd tell you to him after Duncan was.
I don't know how you sleep at night.
I think you should be ashamed.
You should be ashamed.
That was an open goal.
I know.
It's a Holocaust.
No.
No.
I'm not letting you get off the hook with Dunkirk.
Stop bringing out the Holocaust.
Who gives a fuck?
Whatever.
You had an open goal.
there and you fucking Fernando
Torrised it.
You had too much time to think.
There was more people on the beach
and Dunkirk than you killed in the Holocaust.
Yeah.
Probably, I don't know.
So we moved to the 30th of May.
By this point, it's starting to look up.
The RAF and the Luffafa
are always fighting above the cloud.
So on the beach, like you see this
in the Nolan film where someone goes
to the RAF guy, well, where were you?
Where the fact were you then?
Right.
but they're all the fighting's happening above the clouds
so he says I was above the clouds
you couldn't see because there were clouds
he's like blah la la la so the lufa are fighting
above the clouds they're also you know they are like
dive the stuka dive bombers which are terrifying
and I think the noise of the X wing
not the X wing the Thai fighter in Star Wars that
that noise is based off the dive bomber noise I think
they would they just come out of the clouds
and just be like oh fuck
but planes are still pretty new as well
as we say they're sort of 30
you know they've only just realized women can't fly them
that's how new they are
oh hang on the Thai FISA sound
is a combination of an elephant call
and the sound of a car driving on wet pavement
I don't think it is
when does a car drive on a wet pavement
what like a sort of Prius Christmas market situation
did George Lucas does that happen once
and he was like that's brilliant
that's a great sound what's that sound
car on wet pavement is that an elephant
driving a car through a wet pavement
yeah so the dive bombers
are they're coming out of the clouds and they're trying to
bomb the ships but it's like
it's like a needle in the haystack it's very hard for them to do it
so they don't actually hit many at all
and also the smaller of the ships
the harder they are to hit so yeah and there's something
about the basically pretty much
all the ships didn't get hit or something
yeah they didn't do any damage
so on the 30th of May
all remaining British divisions
and half the French First Army are now
behind the defensive line of the canals so they managed to get
all the way behind the defence
the panzers are withdrawn from the battle officially
because we must not forget
they've been doing meth for two weeks
straight at this point
and the RAF are defending
the troops from the Luftafa
and they're able to sink
one transport and damage to 12 others
but 53,823 men are evacuated
all from the East Mole
so by this point people are like
okay we're cooking now
we're cooking on gas
31st of May
got the man who
Gort. Gort, a mastermind of the retreat.
He gets 68,000 troops.
Still get slacked off.
Including some French soldiers.
Okay, maybe he should be slagmoth.
And then Alexander is left in charge of a 4,000 strong rearguard defense.
The 1st of June, the Lefafa destroy four destroyers.
Okay, so they do destroy some vessels.
Okay, and 27 small vessels.
But 62,000 troops evacuated.
Big numbers.
And then on the second of June, the last.
of the B.EF are evacuated, the BF.
And, yeah, tenant, who's the guy leading it,
he gets a megaphone and, bear my, everyone's gone,
and he gets a megaphone, and he goes up and down the beach
and a little boat going, any British, any British, anyone,
this is your final call, last orders, ding-de-d-d-ding,
and no one answers, and then he goes back.
Well, he rings the bell.
He rings the bell. He rings the bell.
Come on, last orders, 26,000 go.
And then by the 3rd of June, they go back and get,
5,000 more French, which
I think is a disgrace.
Yeah. So now they're just doing
victory laps. Yeah, they're like, well, we'll get some French
then if we want. I mean, this is crazy. And then the
remaining 40,000 French soldiers surrender
on the 4th of June, I guess because we're just
like, ah, no, I can't be asked.
Well, they're like, can you let us stay
here? We really like surrendering,
so. What have you found, Charlie?
Our editor Jim's Grandad was on the
final boat out of Dunkirk and that was the
HMS Shakira. The HMS Shakari.
Oh, right. What anime nerd?
named that.
It's a Jim's dad somewhere on that.
Her ship, don't lie.
Grandad even.
Last one.
I mean, that's like...
That's the dream as you're a Brit, right?
The last, the last...
You want to be the last one on?
Yeah.
Last one off the beach.
Last chopper out of Saigon.
Yeah.
It's the last man to fuck when he blew.
What a hero.
What a hero.
What a hero.
Last man standing.
So at the conclusion of Dunkirk, 338,226 troops
evacuated over nine days.
See, only 59% were British.
So the foreigners are on small boats crossing the channel.
It starts here.
And we did it to ourselves.
39% were French.
This has never talked about.
A lot of Indian soldiers there, part of the Commonwealth.
39% of French.
And all we've done is we've just gone,
well, why don't you come over here and surrender?
Do you want to surrender over here?
Do you want to surrender here or over there?
A thousand ships and vessels participate in the evacuation,
including around 700 civilian crafts
so there's this image of like
in the film just like
pedlows
yeah
flintsoffs in a pedlo
they're gonna one at a time
like just random people
some bloke comes into a pub in Kent
and goes oh they needed a Dunkirk
everyone getting a boat but actually the Navy
just requisitioned it the Navy just took all the boats
yeah and it was oh so it wasn't this like
no there was there was like maybe
I don't know maybe 30 50 people
civilians who actually manned it but it was
mainly just Navy
just taking boats
but we should talk
about one of the
amazing stories
is that
Lytola
who was one of
the commanding officers
in the Titanic
and maybe the highest
Iiota from the
Titanic series
Not the Ayatollah
not the Ayatollah
Aetola commanding
I guess
you know
I'm talking about
such history
I'm always like
trying to see if we
it's like
trying to teach
like an AI's
information from a base
it's difficult
he can't see you're here
he can't see all here
he can't see
He's just hit the microphone with his head.
But we've done so many issues.
I'm always like, when we build a link between episodes,
I just wonder if there's a connection being made.
So I just thought with Lytola.
Bless him, there is.
Even for me, I was looking at Lytola from Titanic.
I was like, I can't believe these two episodes.
Yeah.
We didn't plan these together.
And now these characters are popping up.
Yeah.
I thought you'd have a moment and you're like,
what, the Iotola was at.
Hang on, the Ayatollah was at Dunk?
What in a boat?
The Iatollah got in a boat came from Iran.
I wonder he's so grumpy.
Yeah.
It was a fucking big old journey.
a small boat.
Dodge Grumpikins, all the way.
No, it's not the Ayatollah.
Bless you, Charlie.
It's Lieutenant Lytola.
Lytola.
Who I think was in the Titanic series,
was it that Lytolah and someone else?
Lyttoll and Murdoch, was it?
Yeah.
Two sides of the boat.
There were commanders getting people off at either side.
Who was the one who was slightly worse than the other?
Well, they were the ones that had differing interpretations of women and children first, didn't they?
Right.
And one of them supposedly shoots himself.
So I guess it's not him, is it?
It's not Lytollah.
if he then later
But he doesn't take a boat
No
He holds on to
He's one of the few people
Who gets rescued from
But how old would he be
He must be quite old at this point
Charles Lightoller
Born in 74
Old
Is he in his early
No he's in his late 60s
When he does this
I'll be screaming coward
Coward
He comes back alive for the talent
Coward
He comes back to Dunkirk
And I'm not getting on that ship
You're coward
You went down with your ship
I mean it is a bit
Like him getting out of both of these
I would be looking at him like
If I'm on the beach
He's like oh
Have you got sailing experience
Yeah it's on the Titanic
Well I'm not getting in your bow
I'm fucking idiot
Wait
I think Lyttolla was on the Titanic
That might be it
That might be the dumbest
I think that's the stupidest thing
You've ever said
And you're a fucking idiot
Everything you say is stupid
That's the stupidest thing
What do you think
we've said the word Titanic several times right in the last two minutes we've said the
word Titanic so many times what's the point of this podcast I don't know I don't know if we say
history then 50 minutes later Charlie's like just says it again you can put your mind blown
it's just gas lighting is what it is it's constant gas lighting it makes me think you know
when you said the Iotala that's when I was saying bringing up the light tunnels on the Titanic
I thought you meant
he was in Dunkirk
went for a swim
I actually thought
you guys were really happy
that I realised that
no no so yeah
he was at Dunkirk
that's why we're talking about it
and he was also
we're talking about it
because
so he survived the Titanic
that's pretty mad
so Charlie
you know the series
now we're doing it on Dunkirk
in your massive headphones
yeah
in the series
that's going
into your headphones
right now
we're currently talking
into your ears
so these aren't
your thoughts
these are us speaking
maybe I just heard you
and then it got through
you forgot
I forgot.
Your brain ordered a halt order
of the information.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a big halt order.
When's that hole
going to be rescinded, by the way?
When are they going to fix your brain?
I don't know.
This week, I'm going to go to spec savers.
I don't think spec savers
will work in your brain, Charlie.
Eyes, ears and head.
Can you do anything for my head?
Is there a head savers I can go to?
Spack savers, that's what you need.
Fucking hell.
Right.
Christ, that's really just taking the wind out of me.
That really, that was the...
just the most phenomenally stupid thing
ever. That's the dumbest he's ever been.
The dumbest he's ever been. Yeah.
Genuinely, like, took my breath away.
Well, there was silence. There was dead air.
That's how much we were both just shocked.
We were staring at Charlie's
realization there, the way Hitler would be staring
at a deserted Dunkirk Beach on the 4th of June.
Like, I can't.
How's this happened?
How would be so stupid?
How have we let this happen?
Guring, you fucking fat cunt.
You were meant to bomb these fuckers.
What happened?
Oh, you know, man, mate.
You got any gum?
So, Lytaller, Charles Lytola, who as Charlie has just informed us, was on the Titanic.
Really?
Believe it or not. Incredible.
What a life.
He gets his little boat and he picks some people up.
I don't know how many, but he, yeah, he helps the evacuation.
Yeah.
Which is a lovely narrative story for someone who had potentially shot women and children, shot men, women and children on Titanic to go.
It's like a redemption thing.
It's a redemption up.
Yeah.
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So what are the repercussions of Dunkirk?
On the 4th of June, after Dynamo, Operation Dynamo ends,
and Dunkirk is evacuated, Churchill delivers his,
We shall fight them on the beaches,
we shall fight them in the bin,
we shall fight them in their toilets,
fight them in every day,
which I listen to.
We shall fight them on the beach.
Hi, yeah, I'm actually,
no my wife works um she comes back late from work so i i we're pregnant we're pregnant
we're having a third yeah no it's share paternity leave i'm gonna take the time off actually
yeah i'm i'm i'm not even we're not married i'm i'm not even the father i'm her birthing
partner yeah i have to leave the rooms that you can masturbate yeah which is fine actually yeah
i prefer it that way i wouldn't want to do anything that makes her uncomfortable well your
fucking voice is creeping me out so that's yeah nonce
This is what a nonce looks like, more like.
This is what a nonce looks like.
Can we get any edit of that?
This is what a feminist looks like,
change feminist to nonce.
Can we get that up?
Benedict Gumberg.
This is what the nonce looks like.
Smuggler.
This is what nonce looks like.
Yeah, it's that but it just says nonce.
Yeah.
Jeffrey Epstein's there.
Taylor Swift's.
Yeah.
I'm a nonce.
Anyway, so Churchill delivers the famous speech
and also
They should be a Nuremberg trial
for everyone who wore this t-shirt
Yeah they should
Because they'd be as justice of shame
They should be wearing the t-shirt out of the trial
And I'd like to be the judge
Exhibit A, look at this
Guilty
And I guess what would the poetic justice be
In the way that like
Hurst was hanged at Auschwitz
What would the, they'd have to like
Get two guns and go like
And like shoot themselves with guns or something
Listen to themselves on podcasts on repeat
Like in Guatemala Bay
Yeah I don't know
There'd be something with the pointing that would
what point of
themselves
while they're getting shot
in their head
like
this is what
execution looks like
use cosmetic surgery
to force their face
to be this mug forever
does they have to walk around
like this
yeah
anyway
right so Churchill
delivers this famous speech
which there's a nice
little aside
in that after he makes the speech
he turns to his aid
and says
and we'll fight them
with the buttons
of broken beer bottles
because that's bloody well
all we've got
yeah very droll Churchill
very funny guy
but you know
the British public I guess
this jeez them up
and there's a whole
The fight is everyone to fuck up
Everyone gets fucking fired up
at this
Yeah
well fucking yeah
Fuck it
We'll do it live
You know
Because I suppose
This is as we
You know
In this series we start with the phony war
The war hadn't really been real
Suddenly the Germans
Start this sort of chem warfare
Kemp sex warfare
And then
You know we're completely fucked
We're in a corner
And then
you know the miracle of deliverance
Churchill calls it and he says in his speech he goes
you know wars aren't won by evacuations but
it is a brilliantly written
speech but I listened to it
in researching this and it is so
like
delivery is not great
no it's pretty like
yeah the writing is good but it's pretty droney
the delivery find the speech Charlie do you think
Kirstama could do a
we will fight them on the beaches
we'll fight them in the line again
Wars are not won by evacuations
Yeah.
Well, we won't necessarily fight the land of grounds
because it depends if they're showing aggression.
It's better than to the way, though,
who's got tons too big for our mouth.
We'll fight them on the benches.
If necessary, viands.
If necessary, alone.
So drunk.
Drunk as man of all time.
Remember, he's 35 when he's saying this speech.
It's got that sort of English vicar.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
I mean, it's brilliantly written,
but it is delivered
like a bored drunk man
Yeah, it's like
the shipping forecast
Yeah, it really is
Yonaville town
Two
Wick and Wanderers
Nill
Yeah, it's the scores
The doors
Yeah, it's the scores
Yeah, it's the scores that, yeah
Crew Alexander 3
African
Fleming 2
And you're trying to work out
what the score was
by the intonation
that they
When they go like
12th 4
Manchester United
and they always have to end it
and then they go
Charlton Athletic
versus Wick and Wanderers
5pm kickoff
Do you ever have that thing where you stayed up
to watch match the day but you're too tired
and you fall asleep watch match the day
and you wake up to this guy
and it's just like a British fever dream
like you're half awake
Wickewatha
Blah blah blah
That's Churchill
Find them on the Macy's on the beachers
And everyone's like, what a brilliant speaker.
Fuck, yeah.
It was like, this guy, he gets it.
I told us here.
He's the, I told us like, yeah, yeah.
Do Saudi Arabia when they beat Argentina, AK-47s.
Oh, yeah, this is what?
This is British people after Churchill's speech.
It's rousing.
England.
Churchill is.
is sort of had a big dinner,
Christmas dinner,
and he's now playing charades with the family.
Imagine that acid reflux burps he does.
Churchill is,
there's never been more acid reflux than Churchill.
Yeah,
yeah,
this is it.
This is Britain after Churchill's wheel fight him
on the bitchy speech.
The doors come off the hinges.
Get that out of there.
And shopkeepers and bakers
and bakers up and down this great country
are taking TVs off hinges.
they're going absolutely stir crazy
AKs in the air
crutch in the air
yeah yeah that's
well that's Londonistan
yeah but that's Londonistan
after Churchill's speech
you know they're going absolutely crazy
they've got their
their headdresses on
but this cements his
his like political position
I mean it is fucking crazy
two weeks into the prime minister
yeah I guess it's the biggest week
in British history probably
and you know
there was two days where
Churchill thought we'd have to bow to Halifax's plan to get the Italians to back channel.
And a Black Monday in there, but they got a great deal.
And they've got a great deal on Blenders, Nutier Bullet, smoothie makers.
Yeah.
They got a whole crockery set for under a tenor.
What a week?
Big week.
Some interesting moments just to mop up at this buffet of World War II.
Got the bread, goes through the pasta sauce.
Exactly.
Let's tear off some hunks of French bread, or as they call it, the Maginot line,
and just dip it in the juicy sauce
that we've got in the place.
So there were initially miscommunications
between the British and French
on their beach allocations.
There were allocated beaches.
Well, because one of them speaks French,
one of the speaks English.
Yeah, well, no, it's probably
that all the British were digging holes to poo in
and the French were like,
that's our beach.
And we're like, yeah, your country's a toilet.
So the French were,
British were pooing and the French side.
French troops at Le Pan
threatened the British with guns
while trying to break through the barriers
to get to the beach.
and the confrontation was only broken up
when the Germans
bombed the town and scattered them.
Diplomatic Germans.
Thank you the Germans
for having our back in this instance.
By Dunkirk Harbuss and Brits stormed a French
ship, insulted the French
and threw all their guns in the sea
when they heard the ship was heading to a French port city.
So there were several frightes
in British and French and told them
it's your country defend it
before pushing them off the mole into the water.
Stories of French men
trying to board British boats being thrown back
into the water, you know,
it softens the heart, flutters the asshole.
Also at Dunkirk were 300 Punjabi mule handlers from the Royal Indian Army Service Corps
and other muleteers.
I didn't know, that was the word.
The three muleteers.
The three muleteers.
Very different story.
Yeah, the Punjabi's force K-6 had been sent to France from India when the British realized
that they needed animal power to move their supplies.
Some of the soldiers borrowed metal trays from cooks at a train station and began to play
Bangra music.
Right.
Well, there you go.
I don't know why that's relevant.
So, yeah, I mean, what do they eat on the beach like?
fucking,
Biscuits, bully beef
and mackerel.
It's just classic
tinned,
tin fish.
This is the high,
tin fish.
Tinned fish
has never been more
important to
British people than there.
They're like,
thank fuck we've got those
tins of,
tins of beef.
Thank fuck we don't have any
taste buds and have no idea
what good food tastes like.
Yeah, I know that
we were meant to spend
the last three years
developing like high-tech warfare
but thank fuck we put that cow
in that tin.
Yeah.
Otherwise, we'd be starving here.
To be honest,
Britain's lack of sophistication
when it comes
the food is what saved us in 1940.
Yeah, totally. Because the French is like, where we cannot
get fired without a beautifully
organic chicken, picked, plucked for a
cocker van. We're like, oh, we're just fucking eat a dry
sea biscuit with a fucking cow and a tin.
I'll just smear some tinned cow on that biscuit.
Lovely. Fine, brilliant. Let's go. That's sorted.
And so, yeah, I mean, when people say this is the
turning point in the war, obviously
the Battle of Britain's to come. Now, apparently,
which is quite boring. I mean, it's important.
but I can't visualize it.
No, it's visually quite difficult.
And also we kind of completely fucked them.
Yeah, we did dominate them.
Yeah, so it wasn't really like,
it was just a couple of dog fights.
That's it.
But again, that's partly because
our boys had fucked them so hard over Dunkirk.
It took a lot of,
the Lufaffa lost a lot of planes over Dunkirk.
Really?
Yeah.
Because the RAF sort of start.
But Dunkirk's obviously so key to the British myth,
but when the film came out,
you were saying the Americans didn't even know the story.
Yeah, so,
I was watching some interviews on like
late night shows with like Kenneth Branagh
who's in the Dunkirk film and they're like
oh yeah so Dunkirk we don't even
we don't even know this story over here because I guess
the Americans it's all you know they're fighting
the rice wines yeah and they've got their own stories
I'm sure the Russians don't give a fuck either
no they don't get a fuck they got it
you think that's heroic what about starting graham yeah I mean
it's like three million people just put through a meat grind
we just got 300,000 people on the beach just getting sucked off
have you seen those videos of Americans who think that
London is like a country or you know
yeah it's not a surprise they don't know what dunkirk is they don't know that like
spain is yeah you're one to talk charlie yeah you really i mean i was just saying
i don't know how the you turn you've had those americans are fucking idiots
anyway guys have you heard about this thing called dunkirk
do you know what happened at dunkirk
i'm waiting for the series where at the end of the end of five hours you go
have you heard of what happened the russian revolution you heard about this thing
fucking insane absolutely insane um well listen
Listen, it's been a long way at this beach.
It has been a long way at this beach.
And we're finally our boat's here.
Our boat's here, and it's time to depart.
The good ship Lily Phillips has arrived.
And we're begging for deliverance.
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I imagine next week
we'll be doing something
incredibly vegetarian
what goes up must come down
and what kind of topics
well I'll be some fruit
there'll be some fruit medieval shit probably
Florence Nightingale maybe
oh my word
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