Fin vs History - The Juice gets Juiced (with Red Richardson!) | The People vs O.J. Simpson (Part 4/4)

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

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Welcome back to Finn versus history. We're still here at Red Richardson. And this is part four of the OJ Simpson story, the final part. The dream team heading into the last part. I mean, this is it. This is for me. I couldn't believe how good this part was. The descend into the CD underbelly of America.

It's kind of the people you meet here are just, you'd only meet in America basically. You don't meet these people in China. They're Channel 5, these guys, aren't they? This is where the story moves from BBC 1 to Channel 5. OJ after dark on ITV2 plus one. Exactly. The show is hosted by Ian Sterling. Whatever it is, this part of OJ's career.

What's he doing? This part of OJ's career is hosted by Ian Sterling. So we left off from the last part with the prosecution and the defence making their closing arguments. Oh yeah, we're still in the trial. We're still in the trial. Now, the prosecution say that if the LAPD wanted to frame OJ, why would they not have arrested him on the eight occasions that they were called on him by Nicole for domestic violence. The LAPD also did not arrest OJ for the murders

until five days after the crime. The defence, meanwhile, object 71 times during the closing argument. Objection. Oh shit, man. Nicole Brown, objection. Who is that? Who's that?

Who's there? Who's it? She read the phone. What does it have to do with this? Ron Goldman, who the fuck's that? Who are you bringing in? Who are these names? The judge overruled 669 of the 71,

sections and then we get to quite possibly the most like beast mode closing argument I've ever seen as a trial. This is Shakespeare. It was a poor closing argument from the persecution, right? Yeah. Prosecution. Well, do you know what? It's a it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, doing this. Yeah. She'll be like, y'all better recognize. You know, no, but stop doing that. They hate it. They hate it when you do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of weak. I'm your sister from another mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Surely it's an easy case to close. It felt like it, they just didn't go for the jugular. Yeah.

It just, it didn't really connect with the jury emotionally. So the defense say, Cochran takes the stand, you know, blacker than black.

He's got his African print tie on. He may have a cask and shield somewhere. He says that the whole thing is an LAPD conspiracy. He then coins the line if the glove doesn't fit,

you must acquit. Which is the big quote from that. That's his wonder wall. Yeah. He is, yeah. That fits on a placard. So outside, I mean, he's got an eye on the whole public opinion, doesn't it? So he's managed to condense the into it.

He's made an own slogan. Weirdly, the whole prosecution, the defence is actually quite Trumpian because they get little boards out that are really clear and colorful. And just like really easy. You can look at it immediately, even if you don't read that well. Yeah. And get what they're saying. He's just slam, slam, where the prosecution, like, there's a woman who's getting

Bjorn. Boring. Boring. Boring. Yeah, yeah. You start a sleep podcast. love. He then says

that if the jury finds OJ guilty, they are condoning the racism of the LAPD and supporting police brutality. Which then you're like, well, I don't want to do that. I hate to do that. He then, most controversially, slash brilliantly, says Mark Furman is basically

Hitler. This is the direct quote. And also remember, Ron Goldman's family are Jewish. Yes. Yeah, they didn't like that too. No. This is the full quote. from Johnny Cochran. There was another man not too long ago in the world.

He had those same views, who wanted to burn people, who had racist views, and ultimately had power over people in his country. People didn't care. People said he's just crazy. He's just a half-baked painter, and they didn't do anything about it. This man, this scourge became one of the worst people in the world,

Adolf Hitler, because people didn't care, didn't try to stop him. And so Furman wants to take all black people now and burn them or bomb them. that's genocidal racism I mean, wow crazy he's landed the triple backflip

perfectly and the defence don't object sorry the prosecution don't object the defence were objecting whenever they mention the victim's name yeah yeah relevant objection why is Hitler part of this case

yeah who's on trial did you call him Fuhraman earlier was that did they use that or was that you're sure They missed a fucking open goal. They probably would. Well, if I, you know, if I was Cochran,

I would have just said you could have just called him pure a man. It's easy with hindsight. If we were in the dream team, Ron Goldman's parents would have gone to jail. For having the worst mustache of all time. Charlie, get Fred Goldman up. Fred Goldman. And suddenly he's in the stat.

Why am I being tried? Yeah. What's funny, it's also great about looking back on old historical trials. The styles that everyone brings to the table. There's always a... Yeah, that's fucking... Oh, there, but for the grace of God, go you, Horatio. He looks like that.

Who's that killer, the BDK murderer? He looks like him a bit. We're looking at photos of Fred Goldman. He does look like a killer. Ron Goldman's dad, who looks like Horatio if he started experimenting with waxing the end of his mustache.

Yes, yes. Horatio who finds God after being accused of multiple sex crimes. Who's America finds God? Fred Goldman then goes out. after the closing ceremonies and said that Johnny Cochran is the worst human being

he's ever met. And Johnny Cochran is worse than Hitler. And it just suddenly, it just says... Wait, so the whole thing's in the gutter. What about OJ? No, no, at this point, he's like, we have completely lost all sight of who's on trial here.

Yeah, it's a bar fight that's gone into the urinal, basically. Cochran should have had his own fucking show after this. You know what I mean? It's just sort of Jerry Springer stuff. Yeah, I mean, being a lawyer actually is being an actor in many ways.

It's very linked. The performance, the charisma. I bet he was everything. hosted a fucking brilliant barbecue. Or a curry night. Or a roast. Could have been anything. Sliding away from the first one. So on the

2nd of October in 1995, the jury start the deliberations. And, you know, there's a rule that for every, is it every week or every month that the court's been in session, the jury would take a day to deliberate. So they're expecting... In most trials, especially something is complicated.

So they're expecting probably 10 days to two weeks minimum. Johnny Cochran, it's his birthday, so he goes up to wine country with his wife, and he's like, let's go and have a drink. It's his birthday, right? He then gets a call after about three and a half hours saying they've reached a verdict, and he's like, huh? Yeah, it's my birthday.

It's my birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they have to drive back. They all get their fucking suits, but they were having their first sip of beer for like, months. For fuck so they all go back in and the next day the police

get SWAT team and like riot police and you know mounted police all ready for the verdict the whole nation essentially stops

it's like I imagine you know when you're in school is a semi-final England they're showing to work out it's a panlet shootout

is carous south gate beers in the air is he gonna fucking sky it or is he gonna coin at Croin and Box Park yeah and they read out

that after, you know, three and a half hours, the jury have gone, I want to go home. They're basically all gone, I want to go home. Not even that is more like, I know what I think.

I don't give a fuck anymore. I don't care. I've been in a hotel for seven months, not speaking to anyone. And they didn't know Wi-Fi or FaceTime or anything. They were watching

terrestrial television for eight months. Yeah. Where's their trial? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's their state? Because they can't, because they can't, well, if OJ News came on that.

So they're just watching highlights of what they've just watched. Oh, so because they were allowed to watch that then? I don't know. There was no TV at all because they can't... Yeah, I guess maybe... Because everything's about OJay.

Because then you'd have some wine time white lady's show going, and he did it and you can't be doing that. The most twiddled thumbs of all time. What have you found, Charlie? Just to type in what you've googled. Anyone ever masturbated in the jury mid-trial? That hasn't happened,

but Judge Donald Thompson in Oklahoma was charged with a decent exposure after it was discovered. He used a penis pump under his robe while presiding over trial. Enough, man. So he had the quick shot launch masturbator. He's bored. Well, that's not a penis pump. Is it not?

No, that's a, that's an automatic fleshlight that you're talking about. So don't dismurch the quick shot. Show Redd the quick shot launcher. Show him. Yeah. And you can pretend. As it. This is O.J.

pretending he didn't get on a car. What's that? I've never seen that before in my life. How would that even work? Quite expensive. Doesn't come with the woman. A pneumatic flesh light. What's the thing?

But it's sort of like a blender. So it's sort of like you're fucking a kettle. Yeah. It's a new chute bullet you can fuck. Okay. But that's different to a penis pump. And he had that under his robes? Apparently, yeah.

I don't think that's relevant to the OJ's. No, sure. OJ is found, the jury read out of the book, the OJ is found not guilty. And obviously the courtroom's in shock. And one of the jurors raises his fist in a black power salute towards OJ. It was a Black Panther, right?

Yeah, he had been a Black Panther in the 60s. They hadn't realized. Surely that's a retrial then. It's like if the Nazis on trial and then someone goes, oh, swastika at the end. The white power salute. Not that the, yeah. I'm not quitting them to the Nazis.

But the jurors, some of them said openly that they voted to acquit OJ as pure payback for Rodney King. Yeah, that's, yeah. Like nothing to do with the eight months and the millions of pounds. They're from day one. They went, fuck you.

Fuck you. Yeah. So the public response is crazy. While the verdict is happening, So it's a cheer. It's like, it's beers in the air. It is beer.

Yeah. Or, I mean, it's rum punches in the air. Yeah. Yeah. Rumbunch in the air. Chardonnay on the floor.

Yeah. Hennessy in the air. Ale on the floor. This is bullshit. 300 gallons of ale. Poured down the toilet. Kylie Rose. Booms one billion pounds.

Yeah. Rosey plummet. Smet. Smet. Trading on the oil. Wall Street decreases by 41%. There's an estimated $480 million of production lost as people in America tune into the verdict.

And polling shows that 75% of white Americans think Ojo's guilty and 70% of African Americans think is innocent. So it never actually moved at all. No. Anything that happened during the trial. No, no, no, but it becomes far more entrenched over the trial. Yeah, exactly. So the whites get more entrenched.

Well, they did such a blinder, because I don't think anyone thought he was, You know, 70% thinking he's innocent. I don't, I get into it, that's probably 20%. I don't care. We were so, so like, fuck you. They just don't care. Furman was such a great villain and perfect for his defence, you know,

whether it's actually like, because 90 bits of DNA or whatever, that's a lot, you know. And it just felt, it didn't build as a win for them, and they wanted that moment. Yeah. The whole black community wanted that moment of joy, or at least a feeling of a thing. And I probably made it better than he was guilty,

because you go, and this is actually more paper. because he could have come to his fucking national insurance number into the crime scene he's still would have been off. He's super corrupt and doesn't work if it doesn't work in our favour

once, that is a win. Yes, exactly. So after the trial, the entirety of white society still thinks that OJ is guilty. He lives obviously in the whitest neighbourhood in LA because he hates black people.

So he basically is getting a lot of passive aggressive look to the golf club. Yeah, a lot of tuts. Lots of tuts, which is his real sense. But what's funny in the documentary is that people were saying that he like, he genuinely thought he'd just go back to life as not.

Yeah, yeah. Well, he's mad. Have you seen it? I don't know. It's been the, uh, the series with fucking Ross and friends in it. Yeah,

he tries to go to. When he gets off, he rings his favorite restaurant. He's like, him book a table for do-da-da. And, you know, it's a white restaurant. You know,

he hates black people. Yeah. But they go, you're not allowed to hear in here anymore. He goes, oh. He just starts to realize it. He thought it'd be.

Yeah. But there's amazing footage in the documentary. home video footage of him arriving back at Rockingham and he hosts all the lawyers for a drink but Shapiro doesn't go and then Shapiro goes straight to I don't know CNN or does an interview and the interviewer's

like you said you wouldn't play the race card the race card was surely played and he's like yep and I regret it and I have doubts about his innocence oh they did a 52 card pick up with that one because the whole point is it 360 turn you're worried about because you've won the trial you're amazing lawyers but no one's going to want to

hire you yeah because then they'll look guilty because of the people who can get guilty people off. With devil's advocate literally is sort of... Yeah, they literally are the devil's advocate. Yeah. But fucking, oh my God. And so what? Kardashian came out there, didn't he? And said...

He said he was... I feel a bit cucked by the whole thing. Yeah. And he said he thinks he was guilty and he said the main reason was the blood. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. What did he know who took blood all over the scene? The man he'd never met before. He had blood all over him from that guy.

Wrong place, wrong time. Robert Cardassian. Once again, no one's question once who the killer is. No, apart from OJ. There's not, there's not been any theories. OJ's never gone who did it. Not once. He didn't even, like, what I would have done it had I have done it.

Yes. Is I'd set up a false sort of search. You know, there'd be a office with a desk and a guy, a phone that's unplugged. Yeah. We're looking for Ron and Nicole's killer. I'd go to that extreme, you know, like that would be my, attempt to pretend, you know? So after the ode to trial,

in the fact he's going to have a lot of touch at the golf club, he starts going for chicken and waffles. He's going, right, right, I'm a blank guy. There's like, footage of him going to Black Church, without all celebrating him and putting on the most African garbs you've ever seen. So he's like, oh, I'm going to,

who doesn't mind this, these guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Gaddafi during the African here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm African, fuck. Oh, it's you guys like me. Let me in. He Rachel Dolarzalz himself, but he's black.

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, they said that the lawyers were shocked at no point he expressed any thought of like how his kids might be doing. The kids just never come into it. No. They were asleep while whoever murdered them, murdered them.

You know, for his first marriage, one of his kids drowned in the pool. Oh, he did know that. Yeah. And he got interviewed about it. He was like, yeah, that was just a part of my life. Yeah, yeah, pools be crazy. Yeah.

Crazy. Anyway, so in 1997, there is a civil suit. So the families of Nicolome Ron file a wrongful death lawsuit. And this gets a bit complicated, but basically they know that OJ is innocent and can't be tried. Because it's double jeopardy. Can't be tried twice for the same crime. Is this American legal system? Sort of.

It's like you are culpable. Because it doesn't really make sense. Any of this. You're culpable for the wrongful death of Ron Goldman. Yeah. You didn't do it criminally. but you are to blame in terms of civilly. Because they don't have to have the same level of,

it's 52% to short, whatever. Yeah, but also in this type of trial, you can say, well, if you didn't do it, who did? In the criminal trial, you can't use that argument for whatever reason. I don't understand why. Anyway, so he's also testifies. He's forced to testify in the civil suit,

which he's not. He never takes the stand in the trial. And they hear him talk. He's got a film deposition, is it? And he's just like laughing. he's making the whole thing a joke. But then in the actual civil trial, they don't have cameras on.

And that's when they, and Ron Goldman was saying, I wish we had cameras on. Why? Because they absolutely destroyed him. Really? But as soon as the cameras are off, they,

I think they got a lot more out of him. And they were also able to prove that he was wearing these specific, like, type of shoes. Oh yeah. And he'd gone like, I'm never wearing, so shoes are shit shoes.

And there's a photo of him. Front cover of Sports Illustrated. Yeah, wearing those shoes. Which shows how dumb Martian fucking darned way. So literally, on the front cover. Also, the black gloves. Do OJ wearing black gloves while being a sportscaster? He wore the same gloves while speaking on the game.

Because also he had unnaturally big feet. So the ones he made, they made like six of them. Look, look, look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are the gloves? Yeah. Oh, he's everywhere. Crazy.

He's wearing the gloves. You can see her ear in his pocket. But those shoes that were like size 15 and a half or something. And they made, they were like a special Japanese designer and they only made five of them. And the other guys are either dead or in Japan. So it's like, unless one of them came over.

So the court find him liable for the murders, which is not guilty of murder, you're liable. Right. So this is a more financial thing there. Yeah, it's like a economic. Compensating. He is then owed,

no, he then owes the families a total of $33 million because the court can't impose jail time. So this is, where this is the rocket boosters to the final part of OJ's life where he's an insane amount of debt and he's trying to hide all his

stuff from the state of California. Because if they find it, they'll take it. They're going to take it. So immediately he has to hand over a war hole that he has of himself and his golf club collection that can't be that much money. No. 33 million is a lot of money. Yes. Yeah. So he then gets all his friends and family

to hide his stuff in storage units and lockups around San Francisco. I hate this. Yeah. You're like, so Jay's asked me to hide a bag. It's like that scene in the soprano with the name. You're like, oh, fuck. Really? Is it a head?

What's in it? So they repossess his house and they then go and demolish it and use the funds to give it to the Browns and the government. Do you know why they demolished it? Well, yeah, why? I guess they couldn't sell it and they're going to build, maybe a property developer bought it to build a new house. Yeah, and they demolished it. So I imagine the new developers one is just demolish it. But then before he leaves the house, as he's packing up, he fucking gets his mate, maybe even his agent, to fabric.

to fabricate paparazzi footage of him taking down the flag. You see it in documentary and he's like, let's go again. He does it 20 times. Real classy, man. Come on, so he's just like pulling the flag down. He's pulling it down. They do it like a fake TMZ, someone filming through his gate, and he's doing it.

It's like, come on. It's a tough enough day. I'm just leaving him out of home. Because you sell that video to TMZ or something. And then you get $200,000. Yeah, yeah, okay. He's not trying to get sympathy. But he does it so many times.

I think he does multiple different ones and sends them to loads of different publications. Timurman made his sex tape. So he then gives interviews after the court cases which imply his guilt for the murders. He's wearing a gold jacket. It's like, come on, don't, I wouldn't... In 1998, this is astonishing.

In an interview with Ruby Wax, he knocks no dressing room door and pretends to stab her with a banana. Fucking insane. The man lived his life. I don't even think he was acting in Naked Gun. No. I think they wrote that movie around O.J. Simpson.

Just what he was doing that, though. Yeah. After we finished film, the O-German said to me that he had a surprise for me, and I genuinely was surprised. Just did you do it? No, I did. I think it was his idea of a joke.

Nope. And this is it. Those eyes. What do you think he thinks he's doing that? Is he saying, fuck you? Is that a, like, I did, you know. It's a level of entitlement? And making it a joke so that he can like get past it almost.

If you hadn't done it, when someone said, did you do it? Would you go, nope? Would you go, no, I did not kill my... How dare, how dare you? This has ruined my life. I did not kill her? Yeah. No.

No. Did I kill him? He's the opposite of the Shoreshap redemption story, isn't it? He's the opposite that guy. He's not a house to green character. Yeah. Let me just think, I don't think I come my wife. I think I was acquitted.

Your Honor, I think I was a crime. If killing him was a crime, then I'm guilty. Yeah, you mean. So his agent releases a book in 2008. Everyone's released. His agent has. Yeah. We should have.

Fucking great, man. We could have sold merch outside the court court. Genuinely. So in 2000, OJ moves to Florida because this means the state laws that mean they can't chase him for the money. You can't take someone's pension in Florida's like it's like white Mexico. Yeah.

It's like you're just it's where you go. Yeah, yeah. If you don't want to live somewhere that's not white. No, no, of course. And you're as protected. But yeah, you want the same sort of weird laws that exist.

It's corruption. Yeah. It's a total reason why Trump is based in Marilago. And like COVID, they just didn't give a fuck at any point. No, it's a fucking. No, it's a fucking swamp. They don't. They don't really do have any laws at all.

No. So he moves there because his pension is protected. It means that the Goldman's can't take his assets. He buys a massive house. So you can move there. And it's just, he's fucking. Yeah, it's like,

I'm touching base. Like Escobar's prison that he built from. That's amazing. Yeah. And a lot of golf as well. So, yeah. Well up his street. So he then starts taking drugs.

There's lots of videos in part. He's partying hard. Yeah. He's just getting to bought. 19-year-old girlfriends. He gets, say, like, an entourage. Fuck. He leaned into being somewhere.

I guess at every point in OJ's life, seemingly, apart from maybe his school friends right at the beginning, he's had these circles, but following his success is different sort of hangers-on, right? In L.A., it was the height of the elite cultural set who were around Kardashians, you know, in his house of Brentwood. But now he's in Florida.

It's just the quality of people who are hanging on. It's just going down and down. These people are not his friends. They're just there. And it even goes further down. Sorry, didn't you? I remember having a conversation. ages ago where you were looking at the um where your instagram stats are best like you're like florida

was your top yeah for america florida was big big man yeah that's hilarious london dublin florida way out like brownie's like a terrible place for comedy as well yeah yeah yeah red's huge in florida yeah big in florida so observers note that oj in this period starts to date women who look like nico what is what's it for them because what do you mean what's it for them i mean Fame, money, lifestyle. He's got money, he's got money. The fact that we're talking about, the fact that we're fascinated.

If OJ was alive and you were in a room with him, you'd try and get a selfie. Do you know what I mean? It's like having a pet snake. If someone had OJ memorabilia, I wouldn't like, I would have a look. Yeah, yeah, cool. What's great from a female perspective

is when you're dating a new man, you know, you don't know his past. They knew he was innocent. Yes. So it's like a clean slate. And there's not going to be an ex kicking up. Or any loose waiters. I hate it when my ex has a waiter friend.

Oh, you think it's quite attractive just knowing that the ex is... That's sort of a dream for a new girlfriend, is that? Yeah. There's no... You murdered the ex. That's how bad it was. Am I better than I know? You're still alive.

Of course you're better than I. Christy Prodi alleges that OJ convinces us to get breast implants to look more I want to see what they're convincing. How does it convince me to get brett's implants? How does that conversation go? You've got to go bigger. Yeah, come on. Turn it up.

She also claims that OJ would threaten her and say, you better watch out so something bad doesn't happen to you like Nicole. In 2001, Ojo's arrested for simple battery, not complex. Is that when the person doing it's quite simple? No, I think it's just pulling the glasses off another driver, which is like sort of bullying, teasing.

Yeah, yeah. For him, this is so low. Yeah, I guess. It's Bin Laden getting a parking ticket. So he's acquitted again. He gets away with stuff. It's why I see a lot of, you know, I relate to him quite a lot. And he's famous, isn't it?

This is the thing in America. It's sort of like, yeah, there is obviously white, you know, privilege. But like, he's just, that's the goal, isn't it? That's the ultimate currency. If you're famous, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it does. So then in 2006, and we've got some footage of this

OJ stars in a hidden camera prank show called Juice He would He could shoot him in self-defense Surely This is the 2000s at its best It was a wild time It's the era of Sasha Baron Cohen

Of like jackass Dirty Sanchez Remember then they just like do They're from like Portaubber They're at the same place as Sandra I think Oh yeah You would play pranks from random people

secretly film them and then shout, you've been juiced. And yeah, this is the title sequence. It's him. This is so 2000. Is he whiting up there? He's whiting up. I'm not sure about OJ anymore.

He danced in the top. Topless models. Brilliant. He's rapping. This is brilliant. He's having a fucking time of his life. I tell you what, OJ in this period, I think it's a better performer and actor

and has more charisma than when before the murder. He's feeling himself. In his films, he was good and naked gun, but it's easy to be, I felt it feels a bit easier to do the role he was played in naked. a gun. Yeah.

This here, he feels like like he has a lot more star power in many ways. I actually think he's good at doing, surprisingly good at this stuff. He's cut out all the haters and he's just...

He's focused on what makes him good. You know, remember Adele after a first divorce and she lost loads and she just became... She was like, this is who I am. It's Channel 5 stuff. Yeah, it really is. So he then,

he starts, I think he starts rapping and stuff. They're basically in this era, he is... He's selling orange... Pretending to be a homeless guy. Yeah. He's selling oranges on a free,

on the freeway. He's wiping people's windows. But then what's the joke? That's OJ. That is the joke. But I mean, yeah, if someone's wiping your window, you think it's homeless, then you look closer and it's like, is that OJ Simpson? Who pitch this to him?

So there's a lot of coat going on around OJ. I think he's paying for it. There's a lot of people around him. Elvis. He's dressed as Elvis now. That's funny. But as you're right, you're right in saying this is, only in America would this happen. In Africa, Oscar Pistorius is not hosting a fucking prank show. He fucking wishes.

Yeah, exactly. So he's always looking for money, as the point. because he's being changed. There's always ways to make money in America, basically. He's always got options. The greedy Goldman won't leave him the fuck alone. The real, the villain of this story. The real villain in the story is Fred Goldman.

Greedy Goldman. Yes, I killed your son. Get over it, Fred. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was years ago. So his next ploy to make money, this is one of the greatest things that's ever happened. In 2006, OJ gets a book deal. And the book is called If I Did It.

and he writes a account of how he would have killed Nicole and Ron had he killed them. Yeah, okay. Now, we bought a copy of it, and our researcher put a tab every time he says something incriminating. If you're listening, there are 300 tabs. That really is. It's more tab than book. Yeah, it really is. So it's ghost written by a man called Pablo Fenvez, and he's in the documentary.

and there's a point where they're talking about the night of the murder and Pablo says, so presumably the killer left the place and goes this way and turns left and Roger goes, no, no, I took a green drive,

I turned around and I went up that way and then I went around the back. Sorry, that's the way I would have gone if I'd done it. Big pause. Killer, absolute stone cocks. Yes. Who did he also say,

was it to his agent, his agent asked him in the garden, did you do it? Yeah. And he then, he said, I did and if she had a knife she probably would be alive. She'd be alive, that would it.

They said if she hadn't answered the door with a knife. Oh, she answered, oh, right, right. Why do you have a fucking knife? You still would have, you know what's the... Did he take the knife from her to use it? Where was the knife from? Do we know that? No.

No one already talked about the knife. Not much of the dream team stuff here. Sorry, guys, where's the knife? Sorry, sorry, I need to speak to my client. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did she bring the knife? Where'd you get the knife? If she had the knife, your honour, this case.

Case needs to be thrown out. She had a knife. She did it to herself. Yeah. The thing is, because if she'd have the knife and I was Cochran, what I would have said is it was self-defense.

And then Goldman appears with a fucking erection and he had to kill him too. Yeah. Otherwise he was going to get bummed. Your honour. And his dad was a drag queen. So he was intensely homophobic. You know, OJ's dad died of eight.

Yeah. Mama Simpson. Have you done this? Yeah. He's been to all of it. Mama Simpson was his drag name. Fuck, Mama Simpson. He says in the book that he had an accut.

he'd done it. So I don't want to libel the man. If he had done it, he would have had an accomplice called Charlie, who he would take with him to scare Nicole. So did he have an accomplice then? No. Charlie is a figment of his imagination who conveniently does all the stuff that he can't remember. Oh, yes.

I didn't read. It's... Charlie is OJ's invisible friends who he takes along and then tells off for killing Nicole. You can't be doing that, though. So he said... But that's his wife, of course he's going to be upset. He used to take Charlie with me.

My invisible friend Charlie killed my wife. So he goes to Nicole Hull's house. We can't find Charlie. Has an argument with Goldman who takes a karate pose while Nicole falls

and hits a head on the ground. Which I kind of believe the karate stuff though. Yeah. I mean, he could have easily. An L.A. waiter. A L.A. is such a nighties. No one's ever want to fight the karate.

A guy trying to be a model in L.A. who's 25. I went to karate clubs. Yeah, I did as well. In clothes ago, yeah. So do you think, If you were giving Nicole Simpson back her glasses and you ran it, would you probably drop one of those?

What does that do against a six or five guy with a knife? Well, his stab wounds are all done. Sorry. So a lot of the stab wounds could see. I actually had my mum show me a black belt because I didn't want to do the rest of the car. I thought it was, yeah. Just gave it to you?

She sewed it. That's the most Florida thing. My mum showed me a black belt, so I didn't have to do the fucking course. Genuinely, true. I just like, I wanted to wear it. one. Yeah.

Want to just show up to the class. Although the eight-year-olds, I'm a bad now. You actually fight this guy and I'm fucking. Could the karate pose not have been him like camply? Like, what, stop it?

Yeah. Probably yeah. Well, if you look at the stab wounds, the all in the hand. Yeah, they're horrible stab wounds because it's clearly just like. Yeah, but anyone's going to do that.

Doesn't mean it's a karate pose. Getting stabbed in the hand be fucking horrible. Oh, yeah. I think the throat and stomach money works. I don't think the colds, I think the colds loving her throat will. I think seeing a knife in your hand. I hate that.

I'd hate that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's OJ. Had worst Mondays? Not really. This is a horrible Monday. This is the worst Monday.

Worst Monday. If it happened to us, we'd like, Charlie's at my door. It's the fucking knife. If it happens to us, we'd be like, is that OJ? You know,

yeah, yeah, you go, fuck it. Yeah, because it's, from him, why was he taking the stuff? Because she left a glasses. No, no, her mother's left her glasses.

And I guess she's rich. He's a waiter. You just do that. No waiter since. I bet you anyone's left a scarf. No, fuck that one. I don't know. I guess it is Star Power,

but I wouldn't be able to call a restaurant to have the way to deliver it. Oh, did she call and so get it deliver it? Yeah. I think she was also, they were made... Rough-place, Rontime, deadman.

Fucking hell. His name is also Ron. Why would he do that? I'd say, fuck off. He's also friends with Nicole. Oh. And that was friends. That makes sense.

But he wouldn't have been like, oh, fuck it's so. If you are the waiter, would you, like, what is the best way of getting him to not kill you? Didn't he tend to be blind? Yeah.

Who's that? Yeah. Who's that? Cole? Yeah. Hello? Who am I? Who am I? It is mad he didn't do the dog in a frenzy, you know? You think that would be What gets the dog and goes, hello? If I'm there, the dog's going first. What happens to Nicole's dog? Can we find out? Well, I think the dog was barking. That's how neighbours got.

They knew. Yeah. What happens to Nicole's dog? We need to know. Where is the dog now? It went on to become lassie in the movies. Akita. Akita. Akita. Oh, right. Oh, named after. lived a quiet life in the Coles parents. Wait, the dog was called Cato and the drifter living in O.J. Simpson's gardens

called Cato as well. Sorry, AI Overview has told us that the frantic barking in appearance with bloody paws led neighbours to discover the bodies serving as a voiceless witness in the OJ Simpson trial. You're saying they put the dog on the stand? I went sniff this guy. With the state of this trial, I wouldn't be surprised

as a dog whispering expert was brought in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was there? What was that? What was that? I got some tapes of this dog sparking the end work. If you listen carefully,

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Listen, right now, wherever you get your podcasts, right now. American Friction! I wonder what O.J. did when the dog died, and went, ah, just slightly more relaxed, you know. Yeah, one less witness. One less rat to worry about. So then, so in the book, in the passage of the book,

he writes, something went horribly wrong. And I know what happened, but I can't tell you how. And then he regains consciousness. Now there's a passage here. He regains it. I've just come to. So he doesn't talk about the actual stabbing. Yeah, he does.

If I did it. Oh, yeah. We talked about the fact that the Goldman's got the rights to the book. Well, not yet, but I'm just going to read a passage from it. I thought back to the horrific scene at the courtyard and to all the blood. I'd never seen so much blood in my life. It didn't seem possible.

It didn't seem real. Charlie, he still didn't answer. But what the hell? This wasn't really happening. That hadn't been me back there. I'd imagine the whole thing. I wasn't imagining it. In actual fact, I was home in bed asleep,

having one of those crazy crime of passion dreams. Yeah. The whole thing was a dream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except two people are actually dead. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's like when you're... It's the first short story you write. When you're in a nursery and you go, and it was all a dream. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's chilling, really, isn't he?

He's terrifying. Imagine being in afters with him, you know, in the Florida days. We probably could have been. For the first, at 3am, it's funny. 5 a.m., you're like, fucking get out of it. I'm at my O.J.'s house. To be fair to Fred Goldman, what happens next is pretty funny. Goldman's take OJ to court for, and Rupert Murdoch, who is the guy who's owning

the publishing company, he quashes it and fires the woman who had acquired the book. Murdoch thinks it's too fucked up. cancelled by Murdoch. What says that OJ's, gone too far. Yeah, but he's like, I'm not going to publish this book,

it's fucking crazy. This is trash. The guy who hacked phones of dead, dead school girls. Yeah, he never hacked women to death though. No,

no, no, he didn't. He then says, because it's been making money that then the Goldman's owed, but because it's in Florida, the Column's can't take it. Oh, Florida.

They then quashed the book and then the Goldman's take Ojo to court and they win the rights. So then Goldman reads it and goes, well, this is a confession. Yeah.

So what he does is, he puts the letter, the only change he makes is he puts the letter if inside the big eye of I did it. So from afar it looks like I did it. Okay. Is that on there? Yeah, you can see the tiny if. You see the little, if.

You see the little tiny if on the eye. Yeah, it's like a shit Edinburgh poster. Yeah. And then he puts a, underbelly. He has a forward. He has like a forward where he's like. Who from?

Dead Bundy. Trust me. This guy didn't do anything. He's a good guy. He's one of my closest friend. Yeah. So they then decide to publish the book with extra chapters And they take the money, the proceeds to try and go

And how much do they make? Well, that's good you bought that because that'll... So this goes to the Goldman's right. Second hand, second hand. Oh, is it okay? Yeah. Now, we get to the Las Vegas years. This is probably the peak for me.

This is the peak of the story. So we go even further into the underbelly. We've gone from Florida. How can it get any scusia to Las Vegas? OJ is still living in Florida. He's got a hit shot. on some backwater channel called Juiced.

Everyone's loving it. He's written a book. He's not getting any money from it, but he's a published author. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's something that most former NFL stars never are. It's true.

Yeah. So he's going to a wedding in Las Vegas. Now, as we said at the start of the episode, all his mates have hidden all his stuff in various lockups, including all his very expensive, valuable sports. I mean, his whole industry is Mirabilia,

autographs. He made $3 million, signing football in jail. So while attending a wedding in Vegas, he gets a tip off from someone. One of the underhand characters is hanging out with saying there's a guy in Vegas who has a bunch of your stolen merch and he's trying to sell it. So they organize a meat to steal back his own merch. It's the guy Bruce Frommon.

Bruce Frommon. And again, everyone here. They all look like they're in uncut gems, these guys. Just the way they look at it. incredible. They're all cut from the Guy Fierry cloth Yeah.

Yeah, really are. Flame bandanas, big tashes. Yeah. So Fremong says he's acquired the collection legally by buying the items

from a previous friend of her. What I like about the Las Vegas lot, though, is there is a level of honesty in that they do not... It's cheaper.

But they don't try and depict themselves as anything other than absolute scumbags. Yeah. I think even in Florida and definitely in L.A., they're pretending.

This is no weird. This is who we are. They're in a crew. What else do you want us? What else do you want from me? You got to fuck your daughter's mate to get in the crew. And that's the only way in. So Framong gets lured to the palestation hotel to sell his collection.

He comes up with a truck full of OJ's stuff. Yeah. So this is the plan that OJ's been laying out, right? Yeah. So there's another guy who has been the intermediary. So Framong doesn't know that the so-called buyer is O-J himself. Framong is. Framong. Bruce Framong.

Yeah. He's my new guy, Framong. We've got Frommon on the cage. Where do you come from? Mong. So OJ and his friends bring guns to the hotel room. Well, you're talking about the stalker as well. How's the stalker involved?

Oh, the big store? I don't know. It gets so confusing. It happens to a lot of sports stars. They get surrounded by the wrong people, giving them bad ideas. Yeah, so basically there's a guy who's one of the biggest collector

of OJ memorabilia because he's a stalker. He's also involved in it. And I think he's going to the meeting as well. And I don't think he knows about any of this. because I think he's in the room with Framong. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how's he involved?

Go-go. How was he involved? Yeah, so he was one of the victims. So he was there. Yeah, so he was there as well. And also, yeah. Being sat behind the desk and OJ and I learned a fucking, like, snake oil cells. I'm just coming in with guns.

So a bunch of OJ's friends had worked security. And at this point, OJ's got like a sort of cartoon limp. His like hips are gone. Okay. So he's like, he's waddling in like this. There's like a white-boarding guy, an old black. dude. Like, it's a complete ragtime.

They say in the documentaries, like some of these people look like fucking librarians. Like, they're so sweet. These just old blokes. Maybe the funniest part of the whole documentary is that they're trying to go to, what's the room, 1203? 1203. And I think they think that it's on the 12th floor because it's

1203, not the first floor. So there's the CCTV footage of this kind of Benny Hill style thing. And they're walking down and they can't find it. They're all just walking up and down. Well, as we know, he's terrible at crime. And that's exactly what happened in the murder. It was a fuck, I bet you put a track on that.

It looks ridiculous. Eventually, they get to the ground floor, having gone up and down the stairs, and they go to the room, and they break in, and they demand that everyone stays in the room, and they point guns from Hmong, and the stalker's like, OJ.

The stalker's like, I don't believe it. Oh, that's fucking OJ. It's brilliant. Yeah, and he's trying to get... His stalkers getting stored. Yeah. This is a fucking mad film. Like, bear in mind,

there are, like, his agent had stolen his Heisman trophy from the year that he won the most rushes or whatever pathetic NFL thing you do in. So all the actual good stuff isn't in there. It's literally just signed photographs. Yeah. It's probably worth... So the tip-off is wrong?

A couple of thousand bucks. Really? It's not worth anything. And it's not even his, is it really? It's sort of... No. Yeah. So he also then starts...

He grabs a pillowcase and just puts a bunch of other unrelated, like baseball memorabilia. I don't fucking I'll take that as well. Just nix all the guys stuff. A phone, I think. A phone. Nix his phone. Yeah.

He's got like a new Sony era. them five dollars out of his word out of this weirdly because if I was Ogen I got away with this I would not I'd be like

that's me now I'm hanging up my crime jersey I've been very lucky yes that's what I'd say I've been a lucky boy I'm stopping now

I'm going to Florida and I'm stopping yeah Florida's where you go to stop yeah but I guess you have a feeling that you can get away

but he lives like a gangster a weird way there's sort of have to hide you know his sort of you know his finance

everything it's like he lives like fucking El Chapo he's always under surveillance who's his circle Who does he confide in? Who could he try to.

Yeah, who's hiding his stuff? Who could he truly trust? Like, they're all trying to get something for him. He should so obviously have got the makeup artist from Juiced to hide his identity. Should be the old white guy. Should be the old white guy with the nose being like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'll buy your member of it. And then he could have gone. It was a prank.

Exactly. Yeah. I always think with those nonce videos, when they turn up, they could just go, well, you're on, it's a prank show. Yeah, yeah. Oh, who are you here to meet? Oh, you've been juiced. Yeah, you've been juiced. You've been juiced.

You're going away for a long time. Because I was doing it to you. Yeah. Back at you. That's someone who's never, who's thought about it a lot of it. Anyway, OJ,

he points a gun, he steals stuff. Because they tell them to stay in the room, it's technically kidnapping. So he runs away and then a member of the team secretly records audio of the robbery, sells that to TMZ for $150,000.

On the, On the documentary rewatch, this guy, he's like, everyone's like, oh, yeah, that guy's a rat. He's like, I'm not a rat. And then they play him, whatever else says, said, you did it. Yeah, I convinced OJ to go, basically. Yeah, yeah, and you recorded audio of it and sold. He went, so a bit of a rat. I mean, you need a, everyone needs a rat.

How much, is there any figures about how much this has generated, the OJ situation, just for, the OJ economies. I mean, we're part of the OJ economy. Sticking. Industrial Compact. These episodes are part of the OJ. It's kind of. a billion dollar business in its own way,

isn't it? Like the series have been made out of it? I must stress that all revenue from these episodes are not going to Fred Goldman. They're going to OJ. Yes, they're going to OJ's foundation, of which I'm a founding member, the OJ Simpson Foundation, the hunt for justice. He's out there.

He's out there somewhere. Whoever killed these people and committed this armed robbery is still out there. So three days later, OJ's arrested for armed robbery and kidnapping and taking to court. The case generated over 60 million dollars in revenue from books 10 million phode cards 5 million

statuettes 1.5 in trading cards so yeah it's like nearly a hundred million that's just the trial that's just the trial because he's signing trial photos yeah isn't that insane he should have done like a Taylor Swift era's tour yeah do you know what if you're doing a live show surprisingly he didn't do a sort of Charlie Sheen-esque live show he should have done a Charlie Sheen live show I would have gone to

but what he should have done it is you know Tedda Swift's eras where she does all of her albums right instead he should do eras so he comes out as a football player yeah he does the actors he does the wife killer. Yeah, the naked gun, yeah,

yeah. Also, we never got to see this book tour. We never got to see the if I did a Q&A. No. So good.

Domre's pizza, they sold as many as the Super Bowl off the Ojo trial. Really? That's great. So out of the six accomplices in the Vegas heist,

if you can call it that, literally, it's like a fucking game, he's like a highist. It's like when you're going a school trip and you like steal someone's stuff

there. Yeah, yeah. Down syndrome, Ocean's 11. And Ojo. So out of his six accomplices, five take a plea deal. So there's one guy who's really, really thick. He goes, no, I'm going to go to jail for OJ. Oh, the one's like, I'm not going to go to fucking him.

He killed his wife. Fuck him. So OJ is found guilty on all counts on the 3rd of October, which is 13 years to the day that he was. Right. Acquitted. They think that they kept the jury in an extra day so that it would time nicely. Ah, okay. being the anniversary of his acquittal.

Also, Marcia, yeah, yeah. The Karen, right? Yeah, the bus scooter. He's now an entertainment time reporter. She was in Las Vegas at the time. No way. When he went to trial.

Coincidentally. So she came to watch it just to see. And you see it on the footage. They both look at each other like, hmm? Yeah, yeah. He's like, you again. This again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The 2008 jury was all white. Nine women. Yeah. Skinhead, not in white. It was shaved heads. It was the extended family of Mark Furrow. Yeah, yeah. Quite right.

Fucking really was. It was the... Look, we made narrow the first time. The guy who killed George Floyd. Everyone from it. Yeah. It was a Galacticos of racists. Handpicked.

Yeah. The Real Madrid Galacticos. Yeah. So, you know, with an all-white jury, they're slightly more impartial and they realise that he's guilty and they find him guilty of conspiracy to commit a crime, committed kidnapping,

commit a robbery, burglary while in possession of a deadly weapon, two counts of first degree kidnapping, two counts of robbery with a deadly weapon, two counts of assault, two counts of coercion with the deadly weapon. When they're sentencing him, they break everything down into like 36 months,

48 months. So he is a total of maximum sentence of 33 years, which is, the exact same number that he owed the Goldman's in millions of dollars. So everyone thinks that because it was on the anniversary of the acquittal and the same amount of money

this is like a Taylor Swift song. You know, whenever breaks down the meanings. Yeah, there's all this stuff. Fred is there loving it. They threw the fucking book at him here. This is the opposite of the first trial. He did not deserve this. It's an overcorrection. Yes, it really is. It really is. Yeah. So Fred Goldman's absolutely

loving it. He's laughing all the way. I mean, to if it was an O.J., he wouldn't do any time for this? Two years. It's a two-year crime, Max, you're saying. He got absolutely done here.

Yeah. No, they, yeah. So does this, is he now, are we, is he at peace his soul? Do you know what I mean?

Because he's been a victim of both sides of the, you know, the injustice and justice. What are you saying about the first trial? Well, if,

if, if. I'm saying, is he all right now? Is he squared it? So he gets sent to the love-lock correctional facility in Nevada

and he gets, he's released in prison on what, compassionate ground, or no, good behaviour in December 2021. Yeah, I wonder what Skull Duggery did to get that though. We don't know what he did for nine years. And if it's OJ,

he's doing mad shit. Signy old, I was I reckon. He probably is, yeah, he's probably working. He said he worked as like a football prison coach. It might have been all right for,

you know what I mean? Actually, the stress of it. Florida was doing too much coke in Florida. And everyone's a hanger on. Yeah. And in prison, you just keep it,

it's a little bit more. It's real. Wasn't he in with the Menendez brothers? Yeah. No, no. He, when he first got taken. Ah. But it was held during the trial, the menend... Because that's like a fucking Netflix Hall of Fame, isn't it? Reilly, what have you found? The National Inquirer alleged that a group of gay and trans prisoners treated Simpson like royalty,

providing him with massages and special treatment. There you go. Special treatment. Sorry, is your... Is your dad Mama Simpson? That's what they're saying. They've never heard of OJ Simpson. They're like, are you Mama Simpson's son?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a nepo drag. Yeah, he's a Nepo. Nepo drag, baby. Do you think he did go gay? He was a very fraught relationship with gay people because of his dad. And there could be, he could be closeted.

We don't know. Well, they're probably out of hatred. There's the ultimate masking, isn't it? Yeah. Maybe he was there to kill... He's a gay white man. Kill gold. He's a gay white man.

He's a straight black guy's body. That's it. That must be tiring. He's like a Republican white guy who's secretly gay and black. Yeah, he's everything he hates. Yeah, he's born in the wrong body. He's like trans.

ideology. Yeah, yeah. It's like the opposite of Caitlin Jenner. Yeah. It's crazy. Well, didn't Caitlin Jenner,

who married Robert Kardashian's former wife, do you think she was recorrected? Is that O.J. Simpson living through? Is it a re-correction?

He's saying Bruce Jenner, or Caitlin Jenner is O.J. Simpson's whore crux. Yeah. And that now, now, yeah, now OJ is dead,

Bruce can take his final form, which is Caitlin. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what's happened. Okay. I think that's a connection. And in which you dies,

we find out who Charlie is. Yeah. And finally. Yeah. And finally, who killed Nicole. So OJ, the end of the story is that in 10th of April 2024,

OJ dies in Las Vegas from prostate cancer, broken bum, as Charlie said. He was also believed that he had a brain injury. No shit. Yeah. Well, he might have had that for his football career. It was.

Well, you had CTE, didn't he? Yeah. Well, they all do. They all do. They all do. They all do. Football players do some mad shit. Well, he was 23.

He couldn't even fucking get through his career and make a movie. What do you do? What do you do? He went a shot by three people. Come on, man. If you're going to be a phone back and kill your wife, at least make a fucking film. You can't.

What happened with him? He shot a few people. And then he was like in a Super Bowl and two weeks before he murders him. Allegedly. And then I think he shot himself. He was gay, apparently, wasn't he? Who?

Hernandez. I read absolutely firing. Am I thinking of Elton John? I can't remember. Anyway, carry on. He shot a few people made himself. He was gay. No, that was Elton.

Absolute peak, middle-aged dad. No, that's not him. Middle-Aid's dad at Christmas. That's a football. Aaron Hernandez. That's a good. Every time, I feel terrible for these guys to keep getting flashed up.

Aaron and Anders, yes. It was a big Netflix thing. Oh, shit. Yeah. He's got a massive knob, apparently. that's all you've started this we've ended this series as we've started it which is Charlie Googling how big

an NFL players do you guys yeah right so when OJ dies all his NFL teams they don't publish anything which given that he was one of the greatest NFL players all time slap in the face shows how far how disrespectful they are yeah well that's just

how I'm grateful they are council culture isn't it yeah yeah Charlie do OJ Simpson cameo or Twitter hey Twitter world I loved them. They were actually really kind of made you feel good.

He's, you know, Bin Laden's got a nice face. OJ had the same thing. Yes. It's sort of Santa Claus. Bin Laden's very handsome. Yeah. Gorgeous, man.

So was OJ. They got kind of kind features. So this is his last pose. He still looks good. It's nice to have a beautiful day like that. Can we get a hate Twitter world? Let me take a moment to say thank you to all the people who reached out to me. My health is good.

I mean, obviously. That's not, mate. It should be said, even like, Up until the end, people are stopping him for photos because he is the American, like, he's similar to Trump. He's like the American lizard brain. Yeah. And people love the, there's a real Trumpian quality.

People love the idea that they could kill their spouse and get away with it. Yeah. And. Because that's what America means. Yeah. America is the land. It's the land of the free to kill your spouse. Yeah.

Exactly. That is what it is. It is. So that's why this story is, you know, the documentary, the ESPN one, is. is like a Steinbeck novel. It's like a portrait of post-war American. Yeah. Race, celebrity, you know, the fucking swamp of Miami.

And it all goes through... It's a great modern American classic. It's brilliant, actually. It's one of the best things that's ever happened. What a life, OJ Simpson. What a life. Thank you very much. Thank you.

OJ, thank you for your service. Rest in peace. If you're alive today... Rest in power. I'd love to just shake your hand. Yeah. I hope you and Charlie having a good time. We're going to carry on.

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